"If you disagree with someone — if you find what they think appalling — is there any value in talking to them? In the early 1970s, the talk show host Dick Cavett, the governor of Georgia Lester Maddox, and the singer Randy Newman tried to answer this question." Not a fan of Malcolm Gladwell but I did really did enjoy this episode of Revisionist History ... https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/revisionist-history/good-old-boys But damn, that song is hard to hear in 2025 ...