I can't necessarily defend this opinion, but guys I didn't hate it. The version I listened to is for sure too long, there's too much similarity from song to song, yes the production is weak and yes it is just anger from start to finish, with very little nuance about what it actually is that they're so angry about. But goddamit I would've loved this if I was 13 in 2003 or whenever. You can't say it's not heavy. And you can't say there aren't melodies there. Which is, frankly, so so much more than most of what passes for popular hard rock/radio metal right now. I think sometimes about the shit I listened to back when I was a kid and how there were metal bands you could hear on the radio late at night or see occasionally on MTV who seemed to me to actually be scary. Like they were trying to convey horror through music. And while a band like W.A.S.P seems utterly ridiculous now, you could still wrap your head around the idea of why parents in the 1980s might take a look at that band and go, "Now hey wait. I'm not so sure I want my pre-teen listening to that." To say nothing of a Carcass or Morbid Angel or Napalm Death. Black metal was too obscure to scare the mainstream and most of it didn't sound like music anyway. But Slipknot? I bet they scared some suburban moms and dads around the time this album came out and I'm giving them a star just for trying.