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Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness

The Smashing Pumpkins

1995

Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness

Album Summary

Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness is the third studio album by American alternative rock band the Smashing Pumpkins, released on October 24, 1995, in the United Kingdom and a day later in the United States on Virgin Records. Produced by frontman Billy Corgan with Flood and Alan Moulder, the 28-track album was released as a two-disc CD and triple LP. The album features a wide array of styles. Propelled by the album's lead single, "Bullet with Butterfly Wings", it debuted at number one on the US Billboard 200 with first week sales of 246,500 units. To date it remains the band's only album to top the Billboard 200. It spawned five more singles—"1979", "Zero", "Tonight, Tonight", the promotional "Muzzle", and "Thirty-Three"—over the course of 1996, and was certified diamond by the RIAA, equivalent to more than 10 million units sold. Praised by critics for its ambition and scope, Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness earned the band seven Grammy Award nominations in 1997, including Album of the Year and Record of the Year ("1979"), as well as nine MTV Music Video Awards nominations, eight of which were for "Tonight, Tonight", including "Video of the Year". Not only did they all become hits on both mainstream rock and modern rock stations, but "Bullet with Butterfly Wings", "1979", "Tonight, Tonight", and "Thirty-Three" also became the band's first Top 40 hits, crossing over to pop radio stations. The recording sessions saw a wealth of productivity: dozens of fully completed songs were cut from the album, and would turn up on later releases. A box set released in November 1996, titled The Aeroplane Flies High, compiled the promotional singles from the album, and featured approximately 30 fully completed songs from the Mellon Collie sessions which had not made the final cut for the album (including one track, "Pastichio Medley", which contained more than 70 short snippets of songs in various states of completion). Both Mellon Collie and The Aeroplane Flies High later saw reissues which included even more tracks from the sessions.

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3.68

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4515

Genres

  • Grunge
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The Smashing Pumpkins were, without qualification, the worst band to defecate from the 90s US alternative scene. That is not hyperbole; if anything, it's diminishing how appalling they were regardless of time, location or genre. Of course, the blame piles onto one man: Billy Corgan, the worst frontman in rock, alive or dead or not even conceived. The vast majority of gametes nestling in your testes has a far stronger claim for musical significance. So why is Billy Corgan so bad? Let's get the purest, most straightforward reason out the way: he can't sing. Indeed, he sounds like someone deliberately attempting to sing bad. Specifically, he sounds like Cartman from South Park, who was meant to sound as cacophonous as possible. Do you want to hear Cartman sing one proto-emo dirge, let alone nearly thirty? When I say Corgan is a bad singer, I don't mean he's unpolished and inexact; I mean that he is painful to the ears. Our dogs refused to be in the same room when I played this. Coupled to Corgan's inability to sing is his inability to write lyrics that don't collapse into risibility. There is not one word on this album to take seriously. Take the lines (preferably out back to be shot): Emptiness is loneliness, and loneliness is cleanliness And cleanliness is godliness, and God is empty, just like me It would be polite not to guffaw, but not guffawing would be dishonest. Or how about the rubbish-yet-bizarrely-popular 1979? I bet you thought it was a wistful, bittersweet recollection of carefree youth. Nope. Here's the chorus: That we don't even care to shake these zipper blues And we don't know just where our bones will rest To dust I guess forgotten and absorbed Into the earth below Now children, do you think adding a bit about rotting corpses to a limp song automatically grants it gravitas? (By the by, Billy Corgan was 12 in 1979. He wasn't out partying and fingering girls, he was still throwing tantrums when his mum said it was bath night. The only song more ridiculous in this regard is Summer of 69, as Bryan Adams was 10 in 1969, and there's no way Bryan Adams was so cool that he started his first band and lost his virginity aged 10. And yes, I am directly calling Billy Corgan a pale imitation of Bryan Adams). Of course, Billy Corgan would say he means every word, that these words are his heart, his truth. Anyone with an iota of sense would retort that he was talking bollocks. (And let's not forget he's now into vaccine denial and 9/11 conspiracies, so I feel no compunction in calling his a massive wanker). The ingredients for the shit sandwich are assembled. We have a singularly uncharismatic and grating singer, screeching out the most lamentable high school doggerel, all backed by your standard substandard post-Nirvana alt-rock pop-punk-by-numbers that littered the US in 1995. So what's the next logical step? Why, it's to make a TWO HOUR concept album (a concept which is never clear and in any case gets jettisoned about three songs in). One song would be insufferable; 28 of the fuckers just bludgeon the listener into a depressed numbness. With some lengthy, challenging albums, such as Trout Mask Replica or Metal Machine Music, one feels satisfied with oneself for having listened all the way through. This album is twice as long as Metal Machine Music, but there's no sense of accomplishment in listening to this, because there's no reward. Even passing a particularly stubborn log brings relief, but this is only like being stranded in a rainstorm. You don't get inivgorated, you just get cold and wet. Also, the title is crap. Mellon Collie? Is that a pun? I really don't get it. You shouldn't get this either.

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5

I listened to this album A LOT as a kid (even though I was born after the 90s), and I thought it would be another example of an album that hasnt aged well since my childhood. But honestly, this album is fantastic. Despite being a double album (and a double CD, so its very long), the song quality is very consistent throughout, and I cant really pick out any songs that are bad or disposable. Its incredibly ambitous, and has a good variety of music, with a lot of dark grungy songs, but also some very beautiful ones. Giving it 5 stars but I have a couple of gripes: it dosent flow too well (particurley in the second CD), and a lot of the lyrics are trying too hard to be dark/ dramatic.

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Hopefully the longest album I'll ever listen to--I'll keep the review short. Plenty of good tracks on here, but I don't think the TWO HOUR length is justified. I like Smashing Pumpkins, the first album we reviewed from them was great, but when you stretch that out to TWO HOURS it starts to get boring fast. It's frustrating because I like the music, but I don't want to listen to it for TWO HOURS. Favorite tracks: Tonight Tonight, Muzzle, Bullet with Butterfly Wings (never knew this was their song, I thought it was Modest Mouse because mouse = rat). Album art: Pretty cool, I recognize this one. I really dig the font and art style. This cosmic woman is rolling her eyes in the same way that I did when I saw the TWO HOUR runtime of this album. 3.5/5

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5

Their very best of their Emo-Rock Days. Epic!

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5

It is quite a feat to have an album this long that somehow doesn't feel bloated. Excellent kickass songs, and even better ballads.

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5

whoa what a ride! it's longer than your average album but boy i didn't want it to end <3

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5

This is really really beautiful. I felt super connected to this record in an almost unexplainable way.

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5

Classic 90s prog rock. Nostalgia affected the rating, for sure.

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5

So good I listened to the whole thing twice. So much great content in this album, it's no wonder they wanted to do a double album instead of leaving any of this on the cutting room floor. Nostalgia definitely influenced my rating, but the breadth of styles/genres that comprise this collection of songs is very wide. Love how they can rage a real headbanger then follow it up with a beautifully composed mellow ballad. Highlights: -Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness -Tonight, Tonight -Here is No Why -Bullet with Butterfly Wings -To Forgive -Cupid De Locke -Galapagos -1979

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5

Here we go. I got into Pearl Jam, Nirvana and (thanks to this list) Pavement, but never took a real chance on the Pumpkins (other than their cover of Fleetwood Mac's Landslide). Wondering if it should be a double album or would play better pared down. But when I think of the best double albums (London Calling, The White Album, Tusk, Sign O' The Times) they all flow well despite the few rare songs I'd rather skip. The key is none of those four albums seem long, and I can play them all the way through without wanting to stop. This one surprisingly falls in that category. I'd have let James Iha sing a few more songs, but that's a personal preference as I lean towards Iha's musical tastes. But Corgan passes the ball around JUST enough (the brilliant instrumental title track, Iha sings lead on one of the songs he wrote, and all 4 members take turns on the album closer). Worth noting the "tender" tracks have aged the best. And "1979" is a perfect song. Even at 28 songs, the album as a whole remains something of a marvel.

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5

As great as I remembered it.

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5

I remember this one being released. Great double album. Corgan is an acquired vocal. Either you like him or your don't. Jimmy Chamberlain is the power behind the guitars that really fuels this train.

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4

This album is loooonggg. I ended up listening to the 2 hour version (Spotify kept telling me that was the only available version) but despite all that this album ruled!! There are intricately placed highs that really get you going and some slower songs mingled in there that have you rewinding to make sure you caught what you thought you heard. This album will make it into the normal rotation

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4

8/10. It is good to see that if 2 hours is not infinite enough for you, the 6 hour deluxe version is available on Spotify. This is a good, angsty album, and like seemingly all angsty albums, it is very long. But I suppose if you only have 30 minutes worth of angst to sing about you might just release a cheerful album instead. But I digress. The point is, this album is very long for not having a stronger theme to tie it together. The wikipedia article says that the band wanted to make an album like The Wall, but they seemingly forgot that The Wall is both shorter and has a central theme/story to tie everything together. Still, the length is partly excused by how different individual songs are. I did not realize, and would never have expected that Bullet With Butterfly Wings and 1979 were on the same album. I don't really know where I'm going with this stream of consciousness review, but I figure if you had time to listen to this album you have time to listen to me ramble. Overall positive experience, probably won't listen all the way through again, at least not for quite a while.

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4

Smashing Pumpkins is a band from which I’ve heard their more popular songs quite a bit, but I can’t remember ever listening to an album all the way through. It’s albums like this that make me glad for this experience. Tonight, Tonight and Bullet With Butterfly Wings were singles off this album for good reason. They are both good examples of the varying styles. One is an accessible, positive song backed by an orchestra while the other has a more grungey, lamenting chorus. I mean who doesn’t feel like a rat in a cage from time to time. I enjoyed the piano based title track opener. Cupid de Locke is a wistful surprise with the harp music, or at least what sounds like a harp. Bodies works for me. I will forgive how slow and uninteresting it is hearing To Forgive because we pick right back up with An Ode To No One. The couple times where AOTNO builds and then the whole band rocks out is great. Seems like a great mosh pit moment…you know, for me to skirt around the edge of it to get further forward. A couple other tracks didn’t get my juices flowing, like: Through The Eyes Of Ruby, Stumbleine, and X.Y.U. Unfortunately they are all in a row on the second album. These are followed up by three solid songs, the last of which begins a bit country-ish interestingly. Porcelains Of The Vast Oceans is mostly a soft and intimate track. Then at about the 2:15, 4:00, and 6:30 marks the heavier guitars and drums come in for 30 seconds or so and elevate the song to another level. Great song! On Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness, the Smashing Pumpkins lay bare a wide range of sounds from the subdued to inviting to grunge to hard rock to borderline screamo. All of which they pull off extremely well. Being a double album, naturally it’s just too difficult to carry the excellentness all the way through, which is why it’s not in the 5 star echelon. Bonus (for those that really love this album): there is a 92 track, 6 hour version with a bunch of demo versions of the songs.

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4

Did you have the guys at your high school that put the biggest subwoofers in their trunk that they could afford and fit? Some of them also made sure they made the appropriate modifications to the trunk to reduce rattle from the booming bass. Some didn't, and it sounded dumb because their vibrating trunk was louder than the rest of the music. There's something wrong with the speaker on my driver's side door, and it rattles with too much bass. (It's broken, or something is loose, and has needed deeper investigation for a year.) But most of the stuff I listen to in the car, at the volume at which I listen to it, doesn't cause rattling or vibration. "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness" rattled the crap out of my speaker. There is a shocking amount of deeply reverberating bass on that album. As for the actual music, there are numerous 5-star songs on the album. It's also a double album, so there are so many songs that not all rise to that level. Interestingly, a couple of the hits - "Zero" and "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" - I felt did not hold up 25 years later. Meanwhile, "Thirty-Three," "1979," "Muzzle," and many more still blow me away. There is some deep 90s angst on here, but also some really timeless stuff. Good mix of experimentation, and pairing of quieter, softer songs with some real rage. A few of the raging songs just don't quite do it for me, keeping the album from hitting 5 stars. You could definitely make a 50-star single album from the tracks on this one. Billy Corgan's is another voice that I feel like shouldn't work, but usually does. And I think that on "Mellon Collie" he found some really great ways to use his vocal instrument. By the way, in addition to various recent Pumpkins reunions, for the last 10 years Corgan has spent a lot of his time and money in professional wrestling, working in ownership and backstage creative roles. He is currently the owner of one of the oldest promotions, the National Wrestling Alliance. Clearly, Corgan has gone in a lot of different directions since the 90s. I didn't like the Pumpkins as much as their sound evolved in a more electronic direction on later albums. But "Siamese Dream" and "Mellon Collie" remain absolute classics.

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4

This is one of the more confusing choices for me. It came out right when I was forming musical perspective. The singles were all over the radio. The branding was fantastic. The double album. I remember going to the music shops in the mall where you could stand there and listen to the albums on the kiosks. It's very hard for me to listen to this without feeling all that nostalgia. What stands out to me today is how some of the best songs sound deeply heavy yet glimmery at the same time. And the vocals are objectively harsh but impressively versatile. I feel like there's some great songwriting on here. I'm giving it a nostalgia-driven 4

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4

Though a tad overstuffed, this LP dodges any sort of datedness with a diverse set of influences to pull from. The scorching guitar tone still invokes the 90s, but purely in the best way possible as it floods the tire soundstage. A masterclass in production and arrangement all around

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4

Highly polished and sounds fantastic. A little edgy on the lyrics, but it's 1995, cut some slack. Despite being a double album, both halves were full of fantastic songs. The highlights were definitely on the first half. A piano ballad, then an orchestra, then a raw punk-like display that reminds me of In Utero, then a gothic song with great vocals and weird buzz synth sound, then an all-around fantastic track with my favorite bridge, then my favorite single that's dark with rhythmic drumming, then a slow solemn song, then a rapid drumming metal song, then an abrasive synth-heavy track, then a strange harp song that reflects the album cover, then two more great tracks and songwriting, then a psychedelic long masterpiece, ending with a somber dream-like track that puts this half to a close. There is ridiculous diversity in these track. No two sound even remotely the same, it's no wonder everyone has a different favorite with such a tremendous display in talent. Yet it's all glued together in a coherent mass. For half the songs on here, I could definitely see a divided opinion on being one of the best or one of the worst tracks on the album. I always need a break after the first half to really get into it due to the heavy sound. The second side feels a lot more surreal, with busy basslines, screeching, and sudden transitions from track to track, and repeated lines that make it perfect for doing drugs to I think. I think my main complaint is that all the songs are too long. I'm always like "Wow this is a cool song" and then 2 minutes later being like "Oh it's still going?" Nearly all the tracks are over 4 minutes, and some definitely don't need this space. I didn't hate any of the songs to wish they were shorter, but it could have benefitted, and I feel some of the tracks were panned just to fill up time. That being said, they weren't any awful tracks. There were a few forgettable tracks after "1979" that could have been cut. But otherwise, I loved the whole album, and I will frequently come back to it. I couldn't even decide whether I liked this better than Siamese Dream, that's how you know you got an album right.

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I bought this album as a teenager and was actually very disappointed. I had heard 1979 on the radio and was hoping for more of that - but there is a significant range of sounds and styles on the record and none of the others contained the magic I felt from that song. I appreciate the album more now, decades later. That line in Bullet With Butterfly Wings is one for the ages, "despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage." The emotional range on the album is impressive, as is the genre shifting from one song to the next. I still don't love it but I respect it.

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4

Before listening to this, I read that with "Mellon Collie...", Billy Corgan and co. set out to produce "The Wall" for the 90s post-grunge generation. How to feel about that... should it have made me wince with dread or buckle down for an all-time classic? Firstly, it isn't really accurate: "Mellon Collie" has no discernible narrative, it's just 28 tracks over two hours tied together by teenage angst and a loose day/night theme. And after a couple of listens and time to start digesting it all, I found myself really torn on it. First time round, I spent most of Part I with my head in my hands at its HEAVINESS, occasionally taking notice when a strong hook, pretty melody or anything else outside the heavy-rock formula broke through. Part II really took me by surprise towards the end, with a run of tracks totally different from the rest of the album. From "We Only Come Out At Night" onwards, things suddenly seem to take an indie/folky/art-rock direction with shades of Britpop. I was reminded of the likes of Super Furry Animals and Supergrass and loved every minute. The closer "Farewell and Goodnight", with every band member sharing lead vocals, is a nice touch and lovely low-key ending. I've always preferred tender ballads to heavy rock numbers, so it's no surprise that "Stumbleine", "Galapogos" and "Cupid de Locke" are some of my other favourites on offer here. I get the feeling that by liking these tracks more, I'm not really a fan of "Smashing Pumpkins doing Smashing Pumpkins". To me, the metal numbers don't feel particularly exciting, although a few of them stood out: "Jellybelly" has a strong hook, and "Muzzle" and "Here Is No Why" focus on being actual songs rather than fat riffs or strangled nasally rants. On the other hand, "Love", "Bodies", "Tales of a Scorched Earth" and "X.Y.U" are all a chore to get through. The guitars, tuned down a half-step on almost every track, lack definition, getting lost in murky low-end and raging distortion. Some more clarity in the mix might have helped, but I suppose it's not the vibe they were going for. While the really heavy tracks weren't to my taste, they do help the ballads to stand out and stop them dragging each other down. There are other songs worth singling out: two of the longest tracks triumph by placing tender melodic sections back to back with the band's heavier edge. "Porcelina..." and "Thru the Eyes of Ruby" are both excellent and earn their long running time. Finally, "1979" is the most popular of all for a reason. Simple, direct and tuneful, it radiates its wistful energy today with all the same impact it must have had in 1995. A review of this album wouldn't be complete without singling out some of the infamous "teenage angst" lyrics: "God is empty just like me"... boo-hoo; "Love is suicide" - repeated ad nauseam; and one of the most famous phrases on the album- "Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage"... gimme a break. So while the lyrics were often cringeworthy and some of the songs weren't to my taste at all, in the end I have to celebrate the sheer scope of this album. Yes, 2 hours is problematic if the poor material starts to get in the way, but after a couple of listens I was able to get through "Mellon Collie" on the strength of its best cuts. It's incredibly impressive that the Pumpkins carved out this mass of music, a towering testament to the alternative rock movement in 1995 as it swung on a pendulum between grunge, metal and everything beyond. It's greater than the sum of its parts and its ambition helps to solidify its icon status. In the hope that I'll come back to it and start to appreciate this even more, bumping it up to a 4*.

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This one's kind of an odd choice although I understand the impulse (Siamese Dream is also on this list, deservedly). Any time a group at the height of their fame makes a double album, there's a temptation for critics to proclaim it a masterpiece, especially if it's massively popular. Frankly, if I had to include another Smashing Pumpkins album, any of the others would be preferable, even the odds and sods collection Pisces Iscariot. Why? Because roughly half of MC&TIS is wretched and half of it's good to great--it's uneven as hell. Plus, even on the better tunes, Billy Corgan's nihilism is beginning to sound forced. It's hard to maintain that high a level of angst and anger with any honesty when you've succeeded beyond your wildest dreams, a problem Smashing Pumpkins shares with Radiohead. Let's survey the damage. \"To Forgive\" is wan and bland in a way that Corgan's ballads had never been in the past. The band performance on \"An Ode To No One\" is as furious as ever (including a snarling guitar solo from Corgan), but there isn't much of a tune to support it--the melody and structure are unmemorable. \"Love\" is another tune that should have been left in the can--whatever happened to Corgan's ability to compose earworms? A one bar hook repeated ad infinitum doesn't cut it. It gets worse. Cupid de Locke is a total loss--a lazy bundle of twinkling musical cliches that goes nowhere. Galapagos isn't awful, merely weak, a pale echo of the songwriting strategies Corgan used on the much superior \"Today\" from Siamese Dream. Honestly, \"Take Me Down\" is a pretty ballad, but James Iha's amateurish vocal tanks it. Thirty-Three is another misfire. In the past, Corgan had shown a great talent for alternating brutal Black Sabbath influenced headbangers with pretty ballads, but it doesn't work when the ballads are as musically simpleminded as this. It's too bad because James Iha's atmospheric twanging guitar work on the track is wasted. I could go on, but you get the point, and I didn't even get to the outright doggerel of They Only Come Out At Night. Every time MC&TIS threatens to gather momentum and knock you on your ass, one or more subpar tunes stops the album in its tracks. And yet, there are any number of powerful songs like \"Tonight, Tonight,\" \"Jellybelly,\" or \"Zero.\" I'd especially single out drummer Jimmy Chamberlin for praise, but really the entire band functions as one powerhouse unit. And it's not only the Sabbath and dream pop influenced tracks that work. The opening track, \"Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness,\" a pretty piano driven ballad, is a perfect introduction to the three headbangers that follow it. And \"In the Eyes of Ruby\" is a majestic example of the loud/soft dream heavy metal/dream pop amalgam that Billy Corgan often excels at. Truly, there's nothing wrong with MC&TIS that a ruthless editor couldn't have fixed. My advice is to make a playlist, leaving out the clunkers, and you'll have a first rate album on your hands.

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While this album is nearly the definition of a seminal 90s album, the contents are decidedly a mixed bag. Some of the songs are tunes that will live forever in the ears of those who first heard them then. Others are forgettable. Perhaps a double album wasn't the best way for the Pumpkins to cement their legacy. Billy Corgan's voice is certainly quirky and I'm sure there are many that don't like it at all. For me, when it works, it works incredibly well; but when it doesn't, it grates. The lush orchestrations are out of this world and fill some of the songs to the max. The more spare entries are perhaps the more powerful for it. As for the lyrics, it is quintessential 90s angst. What could be a more stereotypical pronouncement of the disaffected youth of the day than "emptiness is loneliness, and loneliness is cleanliness, and cleanliness is godliness, and god is empty just like me"? A full re-listen really brought back to me how solid parts of this album were. And yet it also showed me how much of its time it was. It's not really a surprise that the Pumpkins couldn't make a go of it in the new century. But still, we'll always have "tonight, tonight".

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While this album is more "experimental" than Siamese Dream, the experiments into other genres aren't really interesting. Most of the album feels like leftovers from Siamese Dream. There are several good tracks here, but there are a lot of rough patches. Mellon Collie has good slow songs, but I much prefer Siamese Dream. Highlights: 1, 2, 4, 6, 19, 22, 24, 26, and 28.

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The band resists Corgan's best efforts to ruin their passable speed grunge until the penultimate track, which is a huge fucking pin in their balloon.

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5

Hello

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5

I loved it!

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5

9/10 This album is concise despite having all sorts of songs, contains gems, and made me feel better on a sad day. Imo the pumpkins' best work. F.T.: Tonight, tonight (duh. One of the best songs of all time)

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5

Damn Good

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5

One of my all time favourite albums, and definitely among the best albums released in the 90's. While I love 'Siamese Dream' as well, this is the Pumpkins' zenith, and they never managed to top this.

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5

Nice but kinda long.

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5

Really nice. I knew soem of them and I will definetly return.

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5

Excellent

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5

Excellent album. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

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5

Had notes....lost them...disappointed

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5

Great album all around. Brings back lots of memories.

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5

The Smashing Pumpkins best album, hands down. I got to see this performed in its entirety live, and it is simply amazing.

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5

Love the sprawl of this album! XYU is fantastic!

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5

First album on this list that I've heard and remember every song on. LOVED this album, even though Billy Corgan is a fucking douche now. (And probably was then).

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5

Gooooood

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5

This album is like a perfect winter day. 10

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5

Sin dudarlo.

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5

Mich holt das dicke Ding regelmäßig ein, lange immer wieder neues entdeckt, mittlerweile ist dieses Opus Magnum in Fleisch und Blut übergegangen. Dabei war der Beginn dieser Liebe kein leichter. Etwas verschreckt von den brachialen Noise Momenten (“Bodies“, „Tales of a scorched Earth“, „X.Y.U“) gab ich das Album im Plattenladen erst einmal wieder zurück, um es dann von innerer Resonanz des einmal gehörten angetrieben in gewisser Form besessen vom guttural-prügelndem (ebenjenes „Bodies“) zurückzuverlangen. Es hat sich gelohnt, diese Megatonne an Zitaten („love is suicide“, „despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a Cage“, „the world is a vampire“, „god is empty just like me“ etc.) zur Verarbeitung von teenage angst als tröstendes Pflaster für pubertären Weltschmerz zu nutzen und eine besondere biografische Verbundenheit (Geburtsjahr) durch die Song-gewordene Wehmut von „1979“ herbei zu fantasieren. Ohnehin muss in diesem Zusammenhang betont werden, wozu Corgan und Co. außerordentlich imstande sind: Pop! Zudem gelingt ihnen eine Doppel-LP ist wie eine Umarmung der Vergangenheit mit der Zukunft; „Siamese Dream“ mit „Adore“. Würde ich gefragt, wäre dies hier DAS Pumpkins Album schlechthin. Idiosynkratische 4.8

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5

One of the new favorites

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5

Good but a bit shouty

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5

El disco que me regalaron mis amigas el día que cumplí 18 años tiene demasiado significado como para poner ninguna otra cosa.

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5

It has 28 tracks and it's still 5/5. Well played Billy boy.

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5

Amazing

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5

One of my favorite albums of all time. Spent countless hours listening to this when it came out and over the years.

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5

Yes please

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5

One of my faves

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5

There's nothing I can say. WOW.

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5

Awesome as I remember

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5

This is one of the great albums of the 90's, which should stand the test of time.

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5

This album is great, but holy fuck is it long.

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5

A classic and a favourite from my youth, quite enjoyed the heavier tracks aswell

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5

Very nice

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5

A little too crunchy for some at times, but so great. They've never come close to this ever since. There are 28 full tracks, 2 hours and maybe 4-5 stinkers, so I'll give them a pass on those and call this the honor roll it is.

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5

I really liked it. Better than I remembered from the 90's. Harder and angrier than I remember.

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5

One of the very best.

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5

It’s interesting experimental rock album both pop, punk, metal and classical colours.

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5

goooodd. thought i’d get bored because it was long but it was good from start to finish. impressed xxx

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5

I had this on cassette at the time. I know it has about 5 of my favourite songs of all time on it. I remember skipping a lot of it as an 11 year old though, so I don't actually know if it is a good album. The joy is I love or really like the first 10 tracks, and it's only at Galapagos that it starts to lull at all - and even then, it's an okay song. If they had stopped at track 10, they would have made a classic album already. I'd add it's also an ambitious one. If they had stuck to their lane, Bullet With Butterfly Wings and Zero would make it a classic up there with Siamese Dream. But the gentle piano intro and Tonight Tonight show that they were trying to go bigger and more wide-screen here. However, at this middle point I can see the second half of an album looming with not much I know there, and I am unsure they can sustain the pace here - though with 1979 to look forward to, it may still be okay! Honestly, the second half lags a bit compared to the first, but still contains 33, 1979, and We Only Come Out at Night. If this had been a single album, or even a 20 track double album, it'd be revered. And frankly, I can't blame it for its ambition. Very few albums ever have this much quality on them, it's getting five stars in spite of its flaws, as I'd give Sign O The Times and the White Album the same courtesy.

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5

MEGACLASSIC

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5

very solid sound, unique for that time period.

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5

This album is way heavier than I remember it being (in parts). XYU almost feels like a Sabbath song. Overall, I feel like Siamese Dream had more of my favourites on it but this album was a solid listen with just a little bit of filler. That’s impressive for a double album Favourite tracks: “Zero” “Jellybelly” “X.Y.U.” “1979”

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5

Huge anthems, skipping mush and fillers. The strings play a huge part

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5

It was aight.

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5

As much as I can't stand Billy Corgan this is an incredible album.

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5

This album really spans the range of the Smashing Pumpkins. Here we see the band at their heaviest, softest, and most reflective. The two hour run time is a bit much, but this is such an essential album for this band and for the 90s that it doesn’t matter.

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5

As I've experienced it, this band (really, Billy Corgan) certainly generates strong opinions in all directions amongst those familiar with them. I happen to like a lot of their music. Sometimes the songs aren't at all to my liking, but a lot are. This album has quite a few tracks I genuinely love, like the title track, 'Tonight, Tonight,' '1979,' 'Stumbleine,' and a handful of others. I don't like it when I hear people criticize Corgan as a person because I admire how open he has been about his mental health challenges, and he's done a lot to support that community and causes. I do understand how he can sometimes stoke negative opinions, and I've wondered whether he might enjoy courting that because he's comfortable airing a lot publicly, but overall, I have compassion for him and what he's lived through and with. As a musician and writer, I think Billy Corgan is incredible. He is prolific, plays a number of instruments superbly well (one of the best guitar players of my generation -- he and I are only a few weeks apart in age), produces well, and although I understand his singing voice is not to everyone's liking, I happen to like his vocals and think they fit his songwriting spot on. The artwork on this double LP is great. This is a truly great album. Glad it came up on my rotation.

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5

Cool album! The hits are hits for good reason, and the deeper tracks are very well written. Some tracks go hard AF. Quite a rollercoaster of an album.

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5

Take me back to high school. Hated the mental space I was in as I listened to this then. It hits so different these 27 years later.

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5

literally wtf thought it was gonna be interesting but no... they give me this. what the hell

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5

Beautiful.

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5

Rock oscuro de los Smashing Pumpkins. Varios megahits. Vinilo.

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5

Listened to this a lot in the 90's. Great album

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5

Esse é PICA

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5

One of the best double albums of all time.

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5

CD

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5

Phantasmagoria of dreamscapes and nightmares, rollicking guitars and ferocious drums, lullabies and funeral processions, marching towards uncertainty and dread. Unstoppable, immovable, and downright unmatchable. Wanna go for a ride.

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5

Buff, este disco lo machaqué de tanto oírlo. Al final como Billy Corgan empezó a decir tonterías en épocas recientes le cogí manía al grupo y un poco a su música. ► Del primer disco me gustan: "Tonight, Tonight","Jellybelly","Zero","Here Is No Why","Bullet with Butterfly Wings","Cupid de Locke","Muzzle" y "Take Me Down" (Qué bueno es James Iha!!!). ► Del segundo disco: "Bodies","Thirty-Three","1979","Stumbleine","We Only Come Out at Night","Lily (My One and Only)" y "Farewell and Goodnight". Volviendo a escucharlo con detalle veo que me gustan más las canciones más tranquilas y pop. Un gran disco doble que refleja una época desde una ciudad diferente a Seattle.

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5

I unironically love this album, and have for 15+ years.

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5

One of the best

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5

Peak of the decade, and maybe the century. Incredible music through both albums.

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5

Rock oscuro de los Smashing Pumpkins. Varios megahits. Vinilo.

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5

Good stuff from Billy Corgan. Lots of great songs and good moments. Gets a bit long winded occasionally, but still worthy of a top rating.

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5

This album is real good. It's everything that was actually good about 90s music combined and executed to perfection. It's like you can hear every other 90s rock band in these songs - Nirvana, Our Lady Peace, Soundgarden, even like Tool or Metallica - except they do it better. Plus, every song has arc. It's not the same 3-4 chords in the same progression (or, if it is, they've arranged it in such a way that you can't tell). It's almost operatic. This is also one of the best-produced albums I think I've ever heard. It's just so clean, even though it's so busy.

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5

This is a perfect record. It's the record that made me love the Smashing Pumpkins - and propelled me into their back catalog and caused me to wait with anticipation through the early 2000s when the original lineup ended. I can't wait to review the other records by this band on this list (there better be at least a couple more). The subsequent "Aeroplane Flies High" box set has 30ish more songs that are all good enough to have made it on the single LPs of other bands of the time. The pumpkins weren't grunge but they were the best band of the grunge era. I could type forever about every song here. Every song on this record has had a moment for me. Where it was my favorite song on the record, and I was listening to it on repeat. I scoured the lyric sheets for meaning. And I learned how to play the hardest guitar parts I'd ever played at the time. 10/5.

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5

Najdraži predugi album

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5

An excellent album. Master class. Smashing but extremely accurated finishing.

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5

I like it

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5

Easy five benefiting from a massive nostalgia bump. Alternating between grungy angsty alt rock and halcyon drifty dream pop, it ticks a lot of my boxes. Think I'd probably still really dig this if I was hearing it for the first time... Fave track - honesty, about a third of the album would qualify depending on my mood during that specific listen. This time around, let's say "Bodies"...

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5

One of the greatest albums of all time

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5

When I was started to comprehend pop music and rock music in the mid 90s, my recollection is that Smashing Pumpkins were a bigger deal than Pearl Jam or Soundgarden. However now they aren’t really mentioned in the same breath as them or other rock bands as the best of the 90s. I’m guilty of this too, if I had to list the top rock acts of the 90s off the top of my head, I don’t think I would have thought of Pumpkins. It’s crazy too that given how good this album is that I can’t really point to any band that ripped them off. Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness is a record I’ve always meant to listen to, maybe I hadn’t because it’s a double album and over 2 hours long; it’s a big time commitment. I now wish I had jumped into it earlier, this thing is a masterpiece and I would have worn this out. I know most of the songs on its, from Zero to Bullet With Butterfly Wings. But the other songs in between really kill it. Like Jellybelly which is going into my current rotation. Amazing work Corgan and company.

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5

Just as good as it was when I was 13 and first heard it. I love this album. 5/5

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5

songs - 10/10

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5

Although it falters during the last half of the second disc, the rest of Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness is so epic in scope, it qualifies as a masterpiece. Is it overwrought exercise in self-indulgence, as so many double albums are? Absolutely! But it fluidly moves between hugely fuzzy and bombastic, and gentle and introspective, and sometimes manages to be both at once. Like MCR would later channel Queen on The Black Parade, Smashing Pumpkins have leaped from straightforward grunge to a theatrical and grand arena rock spectacle while maintaining the angsty foundation that made them.

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5

Troche materialu od pana Corgana juz bylo, ale dopiero teraz trafilo na jego magnum opus, czyli Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness z 95, ktory stanowi potezny 28 trakowy krazek, trzci w dyskografii The Smashing Pumpkins, jeszcze bardziej niz na poprzednim picku od tego zespolu slychac jak roznorodnosc brzmienia, bo prawie dwie godziny czasu daja sporo miejsca na eksperymenty, wiec slychac zarowno grungowa jechanka, jak tez akustyczne wolniejsze numery, synthezowe brzmienia z 1979, a nawet kompozycje na orkiestre jak na tonight, tonight, calosc mozna podzielic na dwie glowne czesci, czyli dzien i noc, ktore w orginalnym vinylowym wydaniu byly rozbite jeszcze inaczej, bo az na szesc czesci, co tez w pewnym sensie zmienia jak sie slucha albumu, ktory pomimo tego, ze jest definytywnym pozegnaniem z mlodoscia od pana Corgana, to jednak dawkuje roznorakie strony tego okresu w zaleznosci od strony traka, wiec kolejnosc plejlisty z pewnoscia wplywa tutaj na odbior krazka, gdy pierwszy raz sluchalem tego albumu, to gralem spotifajem wersje dzien/noc, ale w ramach tego odsluchu soulseekowalem orginalne vinylowe wydanie w calkiem przyzwoitej jakosci, bo taka ilosc trakow nagrana w przeciagu kilku miesiecy musi miec swoje surowe miejsca, ktore slychac zwlaszcza na utworach gdzie leci mocna sieczka gitarowa duetu Corgan x Iha, ktory zdecydowanie jest niedoceniany jako gitara prowadzaca, ten album wydaje sie byc dobrym self checkiem czy jeszcze jest sie wystarczajaco mlodym zeby liryka odnosila sie do osoby sluchajacej, czy juz czlowiek jest zbyt przezuty zyciem na palanie nienawiscia przeciwko zyciu i wszystkiemu co sie z nim laczy, jeden z niewielu dwu godzinnych albumow ktore jestem w stanie sluchac kolejny raz w jednym posiedzeniu, wiec chyba nadal nie jest ze mna tak zle, na plejke nic nie dodaje, bo sluchane offlajnowo tym razem

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5

Clásico de mi juventud.

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5

An album as big as Billy Corgan's ego. A mix of ballads, metal, indie rock, goth and everything in between. Even the terrible pun of the title can't detract from its vastness. Best Tracks: Tonight, Tonight; Bullet With Butterfly Wings; 1979

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5

Absolutely one of the best albums of the era

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5

Incredible

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5

5 fucking stars baby.

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5

It's funny to revisit this album outside of the strict religious context of my upbringing. Phrases like, "Jesus was an only sun" and "bastard son of a bastard son" were so scandalous and my mind could not spare the energy to try to understand or enjoy the songs for what they were because I was so pre-occupied with whether my parents would think that they had a corrupting influence on my soul and whether they were right. Corgan seems to have a fascination with the contrast between thrashy aggressive sounds and beautiful fragile ones. A great example is the transition to "And I give it all up to you" on an ode to no one. I think that this was a really important thing in that it created permission for people, particularly teenage boys, to enjoy music that was full of both rage and a yearning for beauty. It's trivial now, The Breakfast Club era stereotypes were so strong that it sometimes felt like you couldn't like loud aggressive music and quite pretty music. The Smashing Pumpkins did a lot for breaking that down. Muzzle is an example of this being blended rather than contrasted. Chef's kiss for the way the instruments come to life on "Where Boys Fear To Tread". The lyrics on Stumbeline.

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5

1 x (9+7) +9 /5=🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 Plus Tonight, tonight!

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5

Al is dit album meer dan 2 uur lang, toch verveelt het niet door het aanboren van veel verschillende genres. Ik kende enkel de singles uit dit album, maar de rest -kalm, hevig, melodieus,...- is ook erg goed

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5

Discazo

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5

The day after I got Siamese Dream, the generator gave me Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness and I'm happy it did. Mellon Collie is significantly better in my mind. I had heard it a long time ago but never really revisited it as I wasn't a big Smashing Pumpkins fan. It is a lot more diverse stylistically and sonically from song to song than Siamese Dream is. I feel there is a lot more emotion in the songs too. This is an album I will be coming back to although it is a little long for my liking at around 2 hours. I believe this album also features the best song they ever made in "1979". The Smashing Pumpkins have never been one of my favorites, but this album is undoubtedly excellent, rightfully revered as a classic and may have changed my mind about them in general after my first re-listen in years. Favorite Songs: "1979", "Tonight, Tonight", "Zero", "Bullet With Butterfly Wings", "We Only Come Out At Night"

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5

Perfection.

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5

jaaaa

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5

two sp albums??? Yayyy

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4

not a bad album, was a big hit when i was a kid and i remember a good few choons off it

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4

1995. Key Songs: 1979, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, Tonight Tonight

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4

cool album need more time to listen

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4

very pog band

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4

Deluxe edition is 6 hours of straight angst and sadness =, with highlights of 90s bops

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4

Never really listened to smashing pumpkins, not sure why as definitely style of music I like. this is a great album if not a bit too long. His voice can also come across a little whiny

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4

Obviously a great album

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4

1979

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4

Cool, versatile alt rock. Some of it's a little heavier than my taste, but good nonetheless.

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4

it was good. "Despite all my rage I'm still just a rat in a cage". That's the line that's most fun to sing.

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4

7.1

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4

Too much filler in the first half billy

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4

One of the grunge classics

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4

Solid album. Unique sound that's enjoyable, even for 28 songs.

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4

Great album. A "classic" for me. So many hits.

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1979😍

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Tonight, Tonight is great, the first song is really nice orchestral song.

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Homer Simpson. Smiling politely.

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4

❤️

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4

Classic, classic. Still rocks. I have a bias against double LPs though.

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4

I forgot this was a double disc! Or was this just for the remaster? Anyway, this was such a great album growing up. To me, this is SP's pinnacle, and my favorite of their. Too bad Billy is such a cuck.

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4

love classic rock

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4

Several of those songs are on my playlists sooo...

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4

I forgot how much I enjoy The Smashing Pumpkins. Great album!

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4

Always disliked the Smashing Pumpkins, but after listening through this album I may need to reevaluate. There were songs that I didn’t care for (it’s a two hour album, how do you avoid that?), but on the whole I was really impressed by it. Some really great music in here.

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I forgot this was a double disc! Or was this just for the remaster? Anyway, this was such a great album growing up. To me, this is SP's pinnacle, and my favorite of their. Too bad Billy is such a cuck.

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4

Maracas

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I don't know where I was in the '90s, but I know that I like Smashing Pumpkins much more than I tough before this album. A great piece of art with a lot of different styles, but still connected, even the more "experimental" songs are great and in line with the rest of the album. Definitively worths it

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4

Off the bat, I love the album title, the album art. Reminds me of Melancholia, I wonder if Lars took inspiration from this gals green dress and the name when he was doing his movie poster. I could see Lars Von Trier being a Smashing Pumpkins fan. Even beyond that, this is an even bolder album because it is two hours long over twenty eight songs and two CDs. Very impressive especially for that time period. You look at just a few years earlier when Nirvana came out with Nevermind and that album was very short compared to this. I loved the instrumental song to start and didn’t realize that “Despite all my rage, I’m still just a rat in a cage” was from Bullet with Butterfly Wings! I thought it was from a Doors song or something. That was a pleasant surprise. As the album goes on, many of the songs drifted into the background, not because they were bad but they play really well as background music. Most of the stand outs for me came from the beginning of the album but I liked this album much more than Siamese Dream. Standouts were the first track, Tonight, Tonight, Zero, and Bullet with Butterfly Wings.

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4

^ Awesome album, if a bit erratic and superficially moody v Decent album, probably better as a live show

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4

Good, but, like most double albums, if they'd taken their best songs and made a single album it would have been even better.

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4

Tails off but four stars just for the first six or so songs on disk 1.

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4

Love this album. Fantastic melodies. Hit after hit. Sweeping soundscapes. Nostalgia. So good. Favorite track: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness

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4

1/3 = 5* :) 2/3 = 2* at best :(

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4

Some good hits, but too many songs

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4

A good one to get back into the albums with. Really not a bad song, excellent vibes. Emo without making me feel bad. 9

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4

really beautiful and moving album. the vocals got a little whiney for me at certain points. insane length but the variety in tempo and style helped to keep me interested. 8/10

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4

Thought this was going to be my first 5* but on listening back, not as perfect as I remember. Still a worthy 4!

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4

Blast from the past. Enjoyed it quite a lot.

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4

It's a double album and clocking in at 2 hours, I found it difficult to digest in one sitting. To start, they make great fuckin' bangers with wild riffs, maxed distortion, and superb composition makes the heavier songs pack a serious punch. Contrast that to the more soft and tender songs like Tonight, Tonight that give the album breathing room and variation. This makes for a wholly strong album, giving great credence to the legendary status of this alt-rock treasure. Rarely did I feel like there was a low point, but the length of this titan makes it hard not to get at least a little burned out. Closer to a 4.5 than a 4.

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4

Its decent enough, but could make it a perfect single album rather than a double album to be fair.

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4

Some great, some meh, too long overall

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4

Cut about 10 tracks from this and you could make one very solid album

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There’s a five star album hidden in here once you cut through the filler

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4

Brilliant in its scale and variety of themes. Loads of great songs interspersed with a full albums worth of filler. Nobody wants to listen to Billy Corgans shrill voice for 2+ hours.

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4

Could have been a five star album if they’d picked the right 12-14 songs. Just too much bloat here.

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4

Still can't stand Billy's voice, however this is pretty solid stuff.

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4

Last great grunge album

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Jedan veoma kvalitetan dvostruki album. Velim ja da je uvijek rizično raditi dvostruki album ako nećeš biti konzistentan. Naravno daleko od toga da mi se svaka pjesma sviđa, ali toliko ima kvalitetnih pjesama na ovom albumu da jednostavno nije fer dati lošiju ocijenu za album od 28 pjesama, a gdje većina albuma valja. Album ima svoje neke padove, gdje nije toliko interesantno, ali to je samo u nekim sitnim dijelovima (čitaj pjesmama). Odlične pjesme poput: Tonight, Tonight, Zero, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, Bodies, 1979, Stumbleine, Cupid De Locke i tako dalje. Od ovih pjesama što sam nabrojao bar 3 pjesme su mi u njihovih top 10 - pametnome dosta. Hvale vrijedan album Smashing Pumpkinsa te po mom mišljenju je album ipak iza meni njihovog najdražeg Siamese Dreams. Ovaj album ima shift prema agresiji pa vraćanje na pasivu i vice versa. Neke predivne balade, lijepi instrumentali, ali isto tako i divlji vokali sa pojačanim gitarama.

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4

wow - I literally transcended. Some songs are a bit too hard rock but this album is incredibly beautiful

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4

Thoroughly enjoyable, but only as a whole album experience

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4

Some poor tracks, but some surprisingly good ones too.

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4

dreamy, weird, obscure, like any pisces would dig. don't really like billy corgan's persona, can't help but love his music tho.

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4

Just fantastic. Part of my music education, although I didn't really take it into account at the time. Amazing songwriting. Amazing drumming! Just too long and dips in parts so not quite 5 stars Does drag in parts and is insanely long. hence 4 starts, not 5

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I absolutely love this album and the pumpkins. There is definitely some filler though lol

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Disco de largo aliento, sin embargo, creo que todo suena bien, con mucha cohesión y hay canciones que me gustaron particularmente. "Zero", "Here Is No Why", "Bullet With Butterfly Wings", "Love", "Muzzle", "Bodies", "1979" y "Stumbleine", esta última de las baladitas. No sé qué más decir, que es el primer disco de los Smashing que escucho completo y está bien, todo oc. 7.5/10

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Sí me gustó bastante, aunque claro que no terminé de escucharlo, sí suena dark. Creo que necesito oir con más calma las canciones de los 2 primeros cds que se supone son las que cuentan (?)

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4

But bloated. But what’s good is great

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I'd never listened to this whole album before. When I was younger, Corgan's voice got on my nerves so I never gave Smashing Pumpkins a fair chance. I have to say, I'm glad I gave this a listen. The music is dynamic and interesting. I will definitely listen again. It runs a little long... but none of the songs feel like "filler."

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I rlly liked the concept of this album with the sections relating to time of day. I think I preferred the 1st half

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4

Awesome rock album, some parts I didn't care for but some 5 star songs

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4

3.5

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7/10 pretty good

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9,0/10

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4

Still can’t forgive Billy Corgan his voice or lyrics, but a wondrous album all the same.

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4

Over long in parts but one i will return to

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This is a banger for sure not sure why 1979 is such a big hit.

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Es un d'aquells discos que representen una década, i totes les seves particularitats: en quant a so, en quant a actitud, imatge, missatge... No tots els temes (sí, hi ha massa) estan a l'alçada dels millors, però la gran majoria no queden lluny, i els que més destaquen ('1979', 'Tonight Tonight', 'Zero', 'Bullet with Butterfly Wings', 'We Only Come Out at Night') també es troben entre el millor de la década

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4

But long

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4

Awesome. Some bangers and lot of cerebral mong-out tunes. Dour 2013, missed them at Reading 2007.

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Billy Corgan is One of the 90s best songwriters, and a masterpiece like Tonight, Tonight really shows it. Atleast a third of this almost is some really quality songwriting that gets lost in a poorer harder rock songs that extend the album unnecessarily hiding what could be a masterpiece and perfect 5 star album. Had he ignored the heavier riffs for this album, focused on the softer tunes and ballads, it would have been more effective.

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Después de tantos años y por lo largo del disco me pasó que escuchar las que conocía fue súper bueno, las disfruté y fue muy bueno recordarlas. El resto continuamente perdió mi atención y no es que sean canciones malas pero se quedan en buenas y ya. Estuve debatiéndome entre subir o bajar el 3.5. Tiene canciones muy buenas, la banda no me desagrada, tiene su importancia histórica pero es demasiado largo y varias son relleno. Al final, decidí subirlo porque ninguna canción es terrible, es más lo que disfruto las canciones que conozco que lo que estorban las demás canciones y pese a lo largo tampoco es que corra a quitarlo. No afecta la calificación, sólo quiero mencionar que aunque está clasificado como grunge y tiene momentos muy pesados, en general el disco se me hace melódico, demasiado "lindo" para ser grunge. Songs: Zero, 1979, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, Tonight Tonight

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No me explayaré mucho. Es un disco excelente, canciones emblemáticas, originales, bien escritas, a ratos se siente sencillo tras sencillo de una época en la que fueron de las más grandes bandas de su momento. La voz de Corgan a pesar de su chirrido siempre se me ha hecho correcta para su tipo de música y manera de componer. Letras bien escritas, música fuerte cuando debe serlo y suave cuando debe serlo... y tremendamente LAAAAAAAAAAARGO. No se que tiene este disco pero escuchar los dos de corrido siempre se me ha hecho muy difícil. Puedo escuchar uno y tiempo después el otro pero los dos completos como obra entera me es tedioso y no entiendo el por qué, la calidad está ahí, hay muchísimos discos dobles que escucho de corrido sin problema, he escuchado discos triples sin problema y Mellon Collie and the blabla simplemente nunca he podido. Canciones que me encantan en un paquete extraño que no puedo digerir de una. Ah por cierto sí también hay que mencionar, es de los títulos de disco más estúpidos que se me pueden ocurrir, su juego de palabras si siempre se me ha hecho bastante idiota y "the Infinite Sadness" solo me hace pelar los ojos.

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Big commitment to listen to the full double album, I wasn't inspired by the songs I hadn't heard before to be honest, but still this is a solid 4. In general I like the Smashing Pumpkins (3.5/5), this is one of their better works

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First things first: "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness" is a 10/10 perfect title. As for the actual music: I'd heard this album quite some time ago and I remembered it being a bloated, grossly self-indulgent affair. Listening to it again, I still feel that way, but I was reminded how good some of the songs are. The highs are high and the lows are never worse than "pretty good", but it just drowns in its own length. Worth listening to once (if only to say you've listened to it), but I can't imagine listening to it over and over again.

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4

Some songs are certainly weaker on their own, but when listened to as a whole it all comes together.

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4

Pretty great

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4

Interesting album. If you took the best 10 songs or so and made an album out of it I'm pretty sure it would be a 5 star effort. As it is though, there are a few duds. Still overall a really good album.

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4/5

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Classic 90’s

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4

Interesting mix of mellow and screaming tracks. Rates a 4 because of the breadth of musicality across the double album

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4

Very good album with lots of standout individual songs. I did take a break half way through. Though, I feel like a 2 hour album should flow better to prevent zoning out or getting bored.

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4

Not that sad. Enjoyable.

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4

Critically, a very good album. I just don't think I'll ever listen to it again.

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4

Not as heavy as I expected.

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4/5, classic

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Great atmosphear, great cunchy sounds. Heavy and soft

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Ah - the good ol' days of 2 disc sets. I personally love the Pumpkins, but this wasn't my favorite album. It's definitely got all of the best bits of them, but it feels a bit like a 'throw everything at the wall and see what sticks' approach. Knowing the history, I know this isn't really the situation, it's more how it feels in modern music release schedules. Similar to Iggy Pop's album we listened to the other day, this is a clear passion project and didn't have much of a commercial influence. That makes it important - if not incredibly engaging. An artist being given the chance to create what they want to create is a special thing.

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Really good album, just a bit long innit. gave it 4 but wish it was possible to give 3.5 in here.

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The second album we've got that I'm familiar with! I'm going into this very biased as I had a big Smashing Pumpkins phase back in middle/high school, so nostalgia is definitely going to factor in to my score. Can confirm: Georgie still loves him some Smashing Pumpkins. Is this a perfect album? No, it definitely has its flaws and Corgan's vocal style is not for everyone. Is it an album I thoroughly enjoy despite imperfections? Absolutely! I like me some grunge and I always appreciate Corgan's use of other instruments such as the keyboard - I like the juxtaposition of jumping from slower, almost ballad-like tracks right into hard-hitting rock.

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melodious, also rocking

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Very long, various music

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Huh, olipa hyvä. Odotin jotain masistelua mutta sieltä tulikin just sopivasti hevikitarablästiä ja tarttuvia biisejä.

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1979!

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Makes me feel like I'm lying on my hot bed in the summer w dusty air filtering through the window, kind of mad

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This is a fascinating album. I really enjoyed listening to it. It’s musically ambitious, hearkening back to the golden age of rock albums in the 70s, but fully in tune with the vibe of its time. Nobody else was putting this kind of effort into an album in 1995. Some of the arrangements are beyond gorgeous, tempered with some equally blistering harder songs. Smashing Pumpkins have a musical range few other bands can touch and this album was the band at their creative peak. I’m partial to the more melodic songs on the album, but the hard rocking songs are also wickedly good. This band has the wonderful ability to turn on a dime from artful to raging that’s pretty impressive. The experience of listing to this album is a bit overwhelming though. It’s packed with some really excellent songs. The ones that were released at singles (“Tonight,” “1979,” “Bullet,” “Thirty-Three, “Zero”) are all pretty much modern classics, they’re so good. But it’s just so long, so very, very, very long. This album is suffering from double album syndrome like I have never seen before. It meanders, it lacks much of a coherent tone or point of view, packing in some of the best songs of the 90s with a lot of other songs that are high quality, but fairly forgettable. There aren’t really any bad songs on this album. But the sheer volume makes it hard for any but the absolute best to stand out. In a way, this feels like two albums, the melodic album and the noisy album. But it’s not arranged that way. Oddly though, had they released this as two separate albums, it would have been far less impactful. Fave Songs: Tonight, Tonight; 1979; Love; An Ode to No One; Bullet with Butterfly Wings; Thirty-Three; Lily (My One and Only); Cupid de Locke; Zero; Galapogos; To Forgive; Porcelina of the Vast Oceans

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Godt album... Men please kill your darlings. Det er simpelthen for langt

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Liked it better than expected. Time has been kind to it. Hits sound great. Enjoyed the quiet and pretty album tracks too. Didn't like the loud distorted stuff. Too long too, at least to hook me in on first listen, didn't make it all the way through.

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Featuring 28 songs and a duration of over two hours this sure is an epic album. Back in the day I did prefer the grunge (just a misspelling of punk) songs. Over 25 years on I now prefer the more melodic songs. It is certainly one of he most definitive alt-rock album of the 90's if not ever. Had I been a teenager in the 90's I would have been boring all my friends about how wonderful this was.

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4.5/5

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Lite mycket filler och sången är outhärdlig, men hitsen är så satans starka? Också fler bra album tracks än jag väntade mig? Tonight, Tonight och 1979 är såna tokdängor.

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THE WORLD IS A VAMPIRE And suddenly I'm 15 again, cycling through the woods on my way to my horrible summer job at the cactus plantation at 6am, where I would be holding out all day to listen to more Smashing Pumpkins on the way home.

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// And someone will say, "What is lost can never be saved." //

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Pros: - some real bangers on here. "Tonight, Tonight", "Zero", "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" "1979" - Very ambitious - 1979 is one of my favorite songs from the 90s and I think even with all of it's hype it's still one of the most underrated 90s tracks. - production is clean when it needs to be clean, and dirty when it needs to be dirty - orchestral elements are so good and don't overtake the foundational strengths of the songwriting - "Cupid De Locke" has some spoken word in it which is cool as heck Cons: - flow of the album is a little weird right? "tonight tonight" into "jellybelly" is a stark contrast, and "to forgive" is a sad boy track right in the middle of two slammers. Misc: - The only spotify version is the deluxe version which is 92 songs long and 6 hours. I don't really have an interest in "Tonight Tonight's strings parts but pitched down 1 semitone and 3bpm lower v6 FINAL.wav", but I get it- that's for the mega fans. - To me they are the Kings of 90s Cringe. "Love is suicide" is a lyric that is repeated over and over in the track "Bodies". It's cringey; like "wow this is so profound"

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Loads of great songs but pretty long, I did go back and forth whether or not this should be 3 or 4 stars as it's not as good as as Siamese Dream which I'd give 4 stars to but in the end I decided it's better than a few of the albums I've rated 3 stars.

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I had this album & saw this tour & rocked the Zero shirt for several years!

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I didn't know Smashing Pumpkins contained such multitudes. A wild, sprawling album with a track sequencing designed to give you repeated whiplash. One moment they're playing dreamy ballads, the next they're thrashing through blistering hard rock and even metal. It's hard to predict what's coming next. The band seems to want to disorient you, even at the expense of a better flowing album. Once you open yourself up to the experience though, there are some terrific highlights. They can spin alt-rock gold like "Tonight, Tonight," "Muzzle," and "1979." They can turn up the aggression on tracks like "Jellybelly" and "Zero," or push their rage to the limits like on "Tales of a Scorched Earth" and "X.Y.U." And then there's the sweet spot for me, "Bullet With Butterfly Wings," which has huge hooks but doesn't skimp on the hard rock sound. Other favorites were the "An Ode to No One" (epic!) and "Love" (I love that drenched in fuzz sound). Dizzying and definitely too long but that's the point, right? Really impressive overall.

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ook

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There's a LOT here, but it's mostly good.

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Superou as expectativas, nunca curti muito o som deles mas é um bom CD.

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The lyrics on nearly every song on this album sound like they were composed by an android who learned about human emotion by studying a 14-year-old's diary. The whole thing is overly long, self-indulgent, and sounds like it was ripped off of a dozen other contemporary bands. Billy Corgan can't sing and is a humongous asshole in real life. Despite all of this, I unironically really, really like it. Maybe it's nostalgia. Maybe I'm a sucker for adolescent Big Feelings expressed in an objectively mediocre way. I think it's just that I decided I enjoyed their sound in sixth grade, so now it hits the part of my brain that makes me happy, even though it shouldn't. Best track: Bullet with Butterfly Wings

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Erg divers album, heerlijk

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Didn't realize it was a double album! Smashing Pumpkins does a great job of going for ethereal slow stuff to abrasive hard grungy punk without having it feel weird. I thought this album would be okay Liked this a lot more than I expected! 4.5 for sure!

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Looking down the barrel of a 28-song record, I was surprised that it wasn't that hard to get through. I had a break at one point, but did still enjoy the record, despite the fact that there's some fat to trim here. The range of influences is nice, from the psychedelic-shoegaze of the Pumpkins' early careers, to some Spiritualized-esque near-ambient music, and even some dabbling in country, of all genres. That being said, the record can be a little schizophrenic, jumping from some extremely heavy songs to some very hushed, light songs with reckless abandon (see "Bodies" to "Thirty Three"). Favorite tracks: "X.Y.U.", "Porcelina of the Vast Oceans", "Bodies", "Zero"

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Rating: 7/10

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On NME500. Nostalgic favourite.

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So good

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Diverse and chaotic, just like me.

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The same age as me, the album is remarkably diverse, so there is no chance not to like at least one track. Anyway, as a whole it's not working for me, at least for now.

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It’s funny, I namedropped Billy Corgan in yesterday’s review and he shows up today. Hmm, something something Neurosis. But no, I did rock with Smashing Pumpkins in my youth. I never really connected with Nirvana or Radiohead, so it took some time for me to embrace the other 90’s alt rock giants. But I did gravitate to most of the other ones in due time, and I played the fuck out of my Mellon Collie CD. In hindsight, it’s way too long, and the pattern is basic- heavy song, slow song, repeat with minor exceptions. But I can still feel the primal aggression in Bullet with Buttefly Wings, even if it’s pretty silly in hindsight, and I dig how weird some of the non-hits get while appreciating the softer tracks. It’s an imperfect thing, but I feel like this should still be essential listening for teenagers. B

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Never been a massive fan of Corgan's vocals when he goes overly nasal but apart from that, this is a fantastic album if a little long. Ambitious, powerful and heavy.

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4.25

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What a great listen, and a flashback to youth. But it holds up! Mostly. A little too long, but still a banger.

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Beloved racket

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Aptly named. Nostalgia aside, the vocals were never well balanced, something they did fix in the remastered versions.

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One of the nineties

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A very long listen but well worth it. I think there are a handful of songs that could have been cut or re-ordered to make this double album a smoother listen but overall it's a phenomenal album.

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Sharon Osborne and Billy Corgan. I think about this a lot

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Could have have been a 5/5 if they cut the filler down to 1 CD. Standout tracks - Mellon Collie and the infinite sadness - tonight tonight - muzzle - zero - bullet with butterfly Wings - where boys fear to tread - 1979

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Bastantes temas buenos, pero larguísimo...

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It's a very good album. But it would be a stellar 45 minute album. Why is this thing two hours long? No one needs that much, especially since there are a few duds in that extra time.

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There are some great songs. There are some good songs. and there is a good chunk of filler. This album was everywhere when i was in high school so it hits that nostalgia button for me. Zero still hits pretty hard. While I'm not sure if this needed to be 2 hours long, it's still worth a listen.

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This one evokes a lot of memories from the high school, so is an instant classic in my mind. Objectively it's a good album, regardless though, I will always enjoy it and turn it up, but it's got it's flaws.

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As I usually say; there’s a fantastic single album here! There has never and there will never be a perfect double album!

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Very intersting!

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Very good!!!

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Some great tracks on this. Particularly enjoyed Disc 1.

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2 hours. .... bloody hell

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Pas mon album préféré des Pumpkins mais un album incroyable tout de même. Trop long à mon avis. Certaines des "ballades" sont moins intéressantes, mais les pièces "rock" restent des classiques de ma génération. Une mine de positivisme! 😂

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I’d go back and listen

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Fantastic album. Love a large amount of the tracks on it. I'm not big on giant double albums like this one as they usually have a few tracks which come across as filler-ish that I could/would usually skip. Would love to cut the track amount down.

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Soooooo looooong. Definitely some great tracks that have aged well, but the album is just so long without much justification and that holds it back for me

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A double album, enjoyed parts of it

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Such a fantastic album and a must listen to.

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This album has some all time classic songs. It also has quite a bit of filler. But for a grunge album from 1995 it surprisingly does not get tiresome after 45 to 60 minutes. It holds up for the whole two hours. The filler isn't bad, but if it was just the highlights this would easily be a 5 star album. The filler drops it to a 4 and Billy Corgan being such a dick makes me want to drop it to a 3 or a 2, but if we are separating the art from the artist this stands as a 4 star album.

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Some bops but the Spotify version is six fucking hours long lmao

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Very long but a few good songs

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This is an album that I wish I had half-stars for. This is almost a 4 star album. And, if I listened on a different day, in a different mood, it would probably be a 4 star.

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Well, that was sure a journey. First thing's first: I don't hate this album, but I don't love it either. You can tell a ton of work has been put into the creation of the 28 songs bestowed upon us, but it's painfully obvious that the quality of these 28 tracks varies heavily. Side 1 is nothing short of phenomenal. Atmosphere and diversity is superb, not to mention the musical prowess on display is unmatched in all albums of the era. Of the 14 songs there was only one I had a strong distaste for (Love) whereas the other 13 were stellar amalgamations of grunge, symphonic rock and alt rock sown together into an exquisite tapestry. Side 2 on the other hand is an utter disappointment and a horrible journey through all the worst cliches 90s music has to offer. The distortion is there and it's worse than ever. The gentler cuts sound banal and laughably stupid. This isn't to say there aren't highlights but the lowlights outweigh them and that's something I didn't want to happen, even more so after the appraisal I gave Side 1. Highlights are few and far between but are as follows: Thirty-Three, 1979, Thru the Eyes of Ruby, Stumbleine. THAT IS IT. Of the 14 tracks these were the only ones that in any way, shape or form brought me satisfaction. I want to tell myself I'm being too harsh on this, but I really don't think I am. It's almost as if an entirely new band recorded the other 14 tracks. The quality and solidity of the tracks took an ugly nosedive almost right from the get-go and I really can't say I would ever listen to it again. If Side 1 was a gorgeous tapestry, then Side 2 is an ugly snot-entwined piece of off-white pieces of garbled chewed up rope. This album sure is a tale of two halves. I'm torn. On the one hand I seriously admire and adore the first side's masterful blend of genres and artful diversity on display. But on the other hand I outright despise the lack of effort and beauty on Side 2. I thought this would be higher than an average 5, but I just can't bring myself to increase the score. It's sad but ultimately not that hard of a decision. 5/10

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A little on the long side

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Lekker rocky, aparte lead vocal. Bij het nummer "An Ode to No One" begon het album pas echt lekker los te komen. De eerdere nummers vond ik allemaal een beetje monotoom. "Cupid De Locke" bracht een gelukkig wat afwisseling. Mastering was goed, prettig gebruik van stereo. Na vol 1 begon de vocal te irriteren en ben ik gestopt met luisteren.

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Smashing Pumpkins are “cool guy” music in my brain, even if they haven’t really been relevant in a while. The big singles off this album were on the compilation record I had as a kid, and I’ve played them over and over again ever since.

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I do enjoy the Smashing Pumpkins; just don't love this album as much as Gish or Siamese Dream.

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A great album, but a bit long for me. I'm not the biggest fan of Corgan's voice, but the mix of genres and styles is interesting. In my reading about the album, apparently he Corgan runs some wrestling company. Fun fact I guess.

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I quite liked this. A bit long and a little repetitive but I like that kind of music so that was okay.

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I have this cd.

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Zero is a filthy banger.

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Pretty good. Too american/thrashy rock for my taste.

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Not as bad as contemporary reviews made it out to be. It's a little bloated, but there are definitely more than one cd's worth of good tracks here. "1979" and "Tonight, Tonight" are worth the price of admission alone.

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Interesting, but too hard rock on the border of metal

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It's fine but annoying at points

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Great songwriting, although I'm not sure it had to be as long as it was. As with most double albums, it could have been cut down. I also didn't like the guitar sound. The heavier moments didn't have that visceral punch that the best albums of the era had - Superunknown, Nevermind, Badmotorfinger etc. For this reason, the ballads worked better.

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Un par de canciones buenas, no es de lo mejor escuchado.

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1979 was OK, but not such a fan tb

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It was fine, but it was very long, and it kept getting more and more "heavy" towards the end.

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5

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reminds me of my old mp3

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Way too long. Take the best tracks and turn it into 45 minutes and it's easily a 4/5 album, even if his voice is a bit annoying.

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Good album, good band... The vocals never sounded good enough for me... But it's growing on me. I'll give Smashing pumpkins another try ☺️

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Bon album en generale, des fois tres bon, plus progressif rock, ou bien meme pop/rock. On passe par contre par toute les gammes d’emotions. Autant certaines tounes sont excellentes et bien construites, autant des fois c’est juste bof..... 1 disque ferait l’affaire car le 2h00 total d’ecoute est inegale 3.75

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Eh. same review I had in highschool. It's a bit long and whiney. I'm more of a Siamese Dream fan :) I rediscovered Muzzle on this listen, which is my standout track <3

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1995, 2 Stunden, Alternative rock, grunge, alternative metal, art rock, geeht, mag diesen Metal Sound nicht und ist zu lang, paar weichere Songs gefallen mir, manche härtere auch ok

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A lot of good usage of distortion effects throughout and certainly a very distinctive voice that lends itself well to the music. Not quite what I was expecting going in but all around ok.

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Good, solid 3.5

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War mir zu lang und klang irgendwie weniger zwingend als damals.

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More of a chore than I remembered

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This is more like my kind of sound. I still don't feel it completely. I can only remember Bullet With Butterfly Winds, which I really like. I should listen to them again: I think I can find interesting stuff from these guys.

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Hit and miss. The good was very good though.

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Good but it drags on a tad.

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Why is the album cover so familiar ? I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. ***

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Wasn’t into them at the time, don’t feel like I missed out. Some nice tracks tho.

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Want to like this album, and there's some great tracks, but also a lot of filler

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Infinite

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Liked their music

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Yeah this is a good album

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Too long. But pretty decent. Would I listen to it again? Not sure. His voice is quite annoying. I can't remember why I was so against this album. But reminded me of Jordan (?) in Virginia.

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The Smashing Pumpkins best album, including a few of their most popular songs! It's crazy to think that this album is certified diamond. This album is huge with 28 songs and they all fit the vibe of youthful problems. This album helped pass the time during my workday, but it could also be played during a night of partying.

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The instrumental at the start is amazing! I loved it! But then it gets worse. There's a few good songs, but most of them were unlistenable for me. I'm only giving it a 3 because of that first song.

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Okay album.

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A bit more underwhelming than I remember it being originally when it came out, but still solidly good!

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Overall interesting more instrumental than I expected.

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3 1/2

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Really liked some of the songs and enjoyed the majority of them. However some songs I could live without hearing. I think it would’ve been better as a single album rather then double and so there wouldn’t be as much, or any filler songs. (3.5)

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It wasn't awful. However, after the first disk I got a bit tired of it. I'm not the biggest fan of this sound, and they put their best two songs in the front. However, I really liked the piano in the songs it was in. Favorite track: Tonight, Tonight

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Its a good album but overly long as it seems to repeat itself the longer it goes. The high lights are very high... Tonight tonight is a great song. Ultimately I had difficulty digesting it all in one sitting

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Have always found this to be at the proggy end of rock for my tastes but I gave it a chance and found it interesting (and Rockier than i imagined) if a little bloated. not sure I'll rush back but a decent piece of work and can see why others may adore it. 3/5

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some pleasant gems here but this double album overstays its welcome. Strong preference for the 1st disc here. some fun genre-bending fakeouts

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Rock

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Excesivo, megalómano, egoísta, en ocasiones genial, en otras repetitivo y de hueva. Es lo que es.

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I admire bands that take on ambitious projects, and this is certainly ambitious. 2 hours of music with a good variety of styles. I'm not a fan of Billy Corgan's voice, and some of the harder stuff I can't stand, but overall this is pretty good. 3 stars.

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It had a lot of great songs, but it just is far too long for what it offers. The vocals, though good, can be a bit much for me after about an hour of listening. Definitely more good than bad though.

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Was never really a fan.

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I know this album! 1979 is a bop

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It’s fine, just too fucking long.

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Smashing.

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No Rain is very strong.

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Many great songs and many so-so songs. This album could have used an editor.

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2.7 Zaten goede dingen tussen maar te lang om men aandacht erbij te houden

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Overall not bad but too long and too much of a mix of styles without excelling at any of them and no song really sticking out

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Estuve muy tentado a ponerle 4 estrellas pero al final sí me supera lo pasado de intenso que es Billy Corgan. Incluso con todos los estilos y gama de sentimientos por los que intenta pasar el disco se va a lo muy muy largo y me fue imposible escucharlo de una sentada. Dejando eso de lado, tiene muchas canciones que son una chulada, pero en particular 'Tonight Tonight' tiene para ser con lo que gana todos los puntos. También me parece curioso que, con todo y lo odiosa que es la voz de Corgan, en algún punto se vuelve parte del todo y hasta dejé de notarla.

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Otro de esos discos que no sé por qué nunca escuché completo... tal vez porque era pobre y no podía comprarlo (?) Me sorprendieron varias cosas, empezando porque en mi mente Smashing Pumpkins era un grupo rock-indie casi tirándole a rock-pop, pero ahora veo que tienen cosas metalosas, aunque en mi mente está en un lugar similar a Babasónicos haciendo cosas metalosas. Otra cosa que me sorprendió fue que me gustaran más canciones aparte de 1979, como "Porcelina..." o "Take me down". Le daría a este disco una calificación mucho mejor si tuviera sólo como la mitad de las canciones.

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Actually a lot of variety in this album. Some noisy mid-90s hard rock, but a ton of different moods and sounds.

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Good tunes, but really, really long. I might love this album after a few more listens, but those listens probably won't come for a while.

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No matter how hard they try to rock I think the best they can do for me is a 2.8. Never have I reached for this album and I never will

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I'm a SP fan, but even when this was released, I found it somewhat disappointing relative to Gish and Siamese Dream. Years on, I feel even less enthusiastic about it, as the lyrics come off as written for a much much younger and angsty person than I am. The sound and production are impressive though.

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Struggling with feelings is never fun. Does listening to a whole double album which reflects those feelings help or hinder? I respect Corgan's self expression and the ambition of this project but I kind of wish he would lighten up. Send some hope (maybe on a deeper dive I would find it but I couldn't devote that much time to a 2hr+ album!). On this album, the hits are terrific - the orchestration on Tonight, Tonight is simply stunning and keeps the track pulsing with energy and verve - and some album tracks stand out - Cupid de Locke, for instance - as charming highlights. Overall, though, this isn't a project which thrills me - sometimes the sentiment, sometimes the length, sometimes the cynicism in me seeing a band wrap up teenage angst for mass consumption (possibly unfair) - one to respect, rather than love.

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Despite liking the Pumpkins, despite my roommate playing this album a lot when it first came out, I never really liked it that much. Another listen didn't change my mind. I don't have the attention span for it. What a great single album it would have made, instead it's a double filled with many boring and uninteresting songs. The hits are great, I love Bullet with Butterfly Wings and 1979, but it's not worth a 2 hour listen. I'd rather listen to Siamese Dream.

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Listened and enjoyed

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Didn't age as well as I thought it would have. Other than the song I remembered (Vampire), none of the others were familiar to me. Sounded...bad...on the car stereo. Maybe a listen in a better environment would be different; but the 90s quality stereo in the Rav4 should be just right for this given the era....

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I enjoyed most of this, but would have been fine with it being about half the length.

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Good but way too long

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2.8 - a big blast of nostalgia here. Some great tunes like 33, Tonight Tonight and even a few others that didn’t make singles. Just a little too epic at times for my tastes. Enjoyed it more for the flashback than the music. It’s been years since I listened to this and likely will be a number more before I do again.

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I remember not owning this as a kid and that I felt like I was the only person I knew that didn't have it. I remember thinking it was just okay outside of the hits and I still feel that way 25 years later. I really liked some of the songs and I kind of hated some of the songs. Overall I just don't love the way that Billy Corrigan sounds.

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This album has a lot of nostalgia for me, which is interesting since I never owned it. Buying a double disc like this was like $33 in 1995! But despite never actually having the album, I know it well. It brought back a lot of surprisingly positive vibes from my 6th and 7th grade years. The thing is that I couldn’t make it through the album listening now. Just too long. The Spotify “Deluxe” version seemed to have 50 tracks. “Thirty Three” was the standout in what I listened to.

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It's OK - some good riffs and tunes but I'll never listen to it or them again.

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Another album that I am familiar with but never really sat down to listen to. Decent but can't see myself listening to it often.

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Some nice grunge, but 2 hours is a lot even if it is good. will revisit it again at some point.

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Did not need to be a double album. Highlight tracks: 2, 6, 8, 5(D2)

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In HS, like many others, I liked The Smashing Pumpkins. In retrospect it's just above-average for me. I waver between a 3.5 and a 3. I think Siamese Dream might be better but not sure, maybe it'll come up in the list.

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Plenty of good songs but way way too long. Songs in the middle blur together. 6/10

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I dig a few songs but as an album it seems to drag.

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Wow, I thought a two-hour runtime was self-indulgent, until I discovered there’s a SIX hour edition. Girl, bye. Standouts here are: • Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (title track) • 1979 • Beautiful • Lily (My One and Only) • Farewell and Goodnight

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Hit and miss, with some really great songs and a few that are over-indulgent. Very much of its time, shows great range in the band, but when it comes down to it I'd rather listen to Siamese Dream.

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eh, this album was decent but just not really my thing. the vocals are definitely unique, it doesn't completely put me off because it kind of works but it is kinda weird. I don't have any attachment to it so it wasn't that special to me, but it was decent!

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Struggled with this one. The music is pretty great, honestly. The lyrics and all that are fine, pretty standard "angry/depressed adolescent" fare. Some I really enjoyed. Others were just fine. Honestly, I really don't love Billy's vocal styling, and if anything was "just fine" it was likely because it featured vocals over music or just had a "meh" musicality.

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Very of its time: pained grunge vocals with grand strings, melodramatic songs. I love they way they have all-out gone for it. Very good songwriting and production, this album absolutely deserves its place in rock history.

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Mellon Collie and the Infinitely Long Album, am I right? Behave yourself Corgan, you're from the punk generation, you're not in Yes. I do really like most of this album but it just goes on far too long. Far, far too long. No one ever needs to make a double concept album, ever. It's a shame because the singles here are some of the best songs of the 90s. If they'd shaved about four and a half hours off the running time this could have been one of my all time favs.

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😔

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To me melancholy and infinite sadness are the times when I'm not getting completely and utterly drenched in the jizz of the entire Chelsea first team and backroom staff. It's been a tough 3 weeks now without being covered head to toe in the jizz of the entire Chelsea first team and backroom staff and I'm gasping for it. I can barely picture Glenn Hoddle cumming on my back. I need it right now!

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not as bad as i was expecting considering i don't like billys noncey voice but 2 hours. fucking hell have a word.

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Every double album automatically loses a star straight away. It's a shame as they were obviously very productive at the time and there's loads of great riffs and some very good songs. Just too long and a lot more whiny than Siamese Dream the shorter better album before this.

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En ollut kuunnellu kyseistä bändiä aiemmin, mutta levyn alkupuoli mukavan monipuolinen Tonightin tunnelmoinnista siirrytään sulavasti Jellybeanin rouhisteluun. Loppupää tästä tuplasta taas vähemmän mielenkiintoinen, aika monta tylsempää biisiä (esim. Take me down). 3/5.

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Siamese Dream on ollut joskus ihan suosikki-"grungea", mutta tää levy oli jäänyt odottamaan kuuntelulistalle. No onhan tääkin paikoin tosi hyvä, mutta vähän ehkä lähtenyt kunnianhimo lapasesta, kuten usein näin pitkien levyjen kanssa. Matskusta saisi loistavan 50 minuuttisen, mutta nyt on aika paljon perushyvää seassa, joten olkoon vain 3/5. Erityismaininta "1979":n nostalgiafiilikselle, hyvin osuttu maaliin ja toimii edelleen.

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Siis eka olin että hitto miten kova!!! Mut kyl on pakko sanoo että ei nää tupla-albumit vaan oo hyviä. Siis tää kuulostaa vaan siltä että böndi ei osaa karsii. 1/3 levystä ihan tinanttista masennus ja kaahausrokkii.

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Was something different

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* really enjoyed it, would listen again

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I assumed I'd give up on this thing's egregious length but muscled through the whole thing. Another album cemented in my mind by the dominating video presence of Tonight Tonight. I like a lot of what the band did musically but I really don't care for Corgan's singing and his lyrics are a particularly disagreeable blend of self-pitying, self-indulgent, and self-important.

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The more alt-rock style songs vibe with me, the more hard-rock / metal songs I could do without.

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helt okej men det blir lite som att bli myndig några år för sent

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Decent. Too long to finish. The slower the better.

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Exciting album from the 90's with several hits. A bit fluttering in style and too long for my taste.

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Over-ambitious scope. 2 hours and nearly 30 songs is huge. I'd prefer half the songs and more than half the running time please! Good variety of rock and pretty songs. The singles cover the variety. Would have been as good as Siamese Dream if paired down to 12 song.

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ok

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It was ok but did not set my world on fire.

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This album is so deeply 90s. I find it hard to dislike, but there are no songs on it that weren't on the radio that I really like. The idea that this was whittled down from 60 songs seems crazy. There are several more I would've cut, but maybe if I gave it a super close listen, I'd change my mind. Regardless, there are six pretty great songs here and they're spread out enough that the filler-ish songs don't hurt you. 'Bodies' is probably the best of the lesser-known songs? But it is also maybe the most performatively sad of them all. I mean - love is suicide. Sheesh. Sidenote - around the time this came out I had a friend I made music with and we had the idea of doing an original Christmas album by a band called Bring Cosby and the name of the album would be Bells and Holly and the Infinite Santas. That was the best part of the idea and that was as far as it went. Maybe some day.

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this album is too long but it does have a lot of bangers

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Maybe his voice would grow on me - but I doubt it. Bill (2/5) Little heavy sometimes. Like their sound. Shannah (3/5) Brilliantly balanced album with some of the best riffs going. Almost perfect.(4.5/5)

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It's 6 hours long, I'm not gonna lie it all started blurring at one point. There's everything here. Harder rock and more indie sound. Probably some goodies to save, but I started giving up around the 3rd disc. One to revisit I think. Few songs per day haha

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Always good to revisit this once in a while. It’s not their best work and it’s definitely bloated, but their ambition is realized in this collection that’s daunting for anyone who isn’t a Pumpkins fan. It’s a rewarding listen despite its overbearing presence, the singles hold up and are well-placed. I’d say it could use some editing, but two hours of this shit really sums up where this band was, egotistically, in the 90s. 3.5

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Its a good album but overly long as it seems to repeat itself the longer it goes. The high lights are very high... Tonight tonight is a great song. Ultimately I had difficulty digesting it all in one sitting 3 🌟

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Früher 4. Jetzt eher 3. Und weil Billie Corgan ein Depp ist, kann ich mit 3 ganz gut leben.

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Ok

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скучнохуйня

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Never got into them, always found them a bit pretentious and try hard. Some songs are okay - I suppose, wouldn't turn them off if they came on the radio but eh. Overrated.

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Great album! (Silly title)

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I honestly want to give this more stars but the singers voice is wretched and the melody behind it is boring. Some decent songs but I couldn’t wait for this album to end.

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Je n'en peux plus de cette voix de citrouille.

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Vous savez sûrement que la plupart des critiques importants de ce générateur dont je fais partie sont actuellement en vacances. Et c'est précisément le moment qu'a choisi Robert pour nous envoyer des albums de plus de deux heures. J'ai donc mené une manifestation contre nos conditions de travail déplorables dont ledit Robert ne semble pas se soucier. Nous avons finalement obtenu la promesse de ne recevoir que des albums dont la durée n'excède pas soixante minutes une fois l'interminable S&M de Metallica critiqué. Robert a maintenant intérêt à joindre la parole aux actes.

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It's hard to rate this album well. It's a major record of the 90s, the intention behind it, to make a concept album so long at that time... It's spectacular and quite off-track. However, I don't know if in the end, it is totally successful. There are a lot of unmemorable songs. I feel that it could have been an excellent album of about forty minutes, since there are also plenty of good tracks like Tonight Tonight, To Forgive, Cupid De Locke, Where Boys Fear To Tread, 1979, By Starlight... The concept is very good, but extended over two CDs, it's too much, sorry.

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Waaaaay too long. There's certainly some hits, but a lot of miss too. I understand why and how this is a critically acclaimed album, but I never want to go through it again

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Way, wayyy too long for its own good. Billy must have thought he was a genius after Siamese Dream because he went all in and did a two-hour album about... I don't know about what. Now, I think this album has a lot of great songs. The singles are incredible and shows Billy's talent (see what I did there) for writing engaging songs. Their mix of alternative rock, dream pop and heavy metal is rather bold, especially considering it was rather uncool to be this pompous and metallic at that time. When the magic sticks, this album becomes one of the best of its era. But it's two hour long. Of course there's gonna be fillers. And while there are no really bad moments to be found, there's plenty of unremarkable songs though. Which makes me wonder why Billy thought it was a great idea to put out an album this long. For that reason, I prefer Siamese Dream (and even Adore), but there's no denying this is one of the most iconic alternative rock album of the 90's.

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By cutting out a little over half of these songs the Smashing Pumpkins might have had a great album, there are just so many misses here. Just build it around "Thirty-Three," "Porcelina of the Vast Oceans" and "By Starlight" and it's their second (or third) great album of new material in a row. As it is a lot of it is a slog to get through. I'm pretty sure I've only ever listened to this front to back one other time and I probably won't ever again, I'd rather listen to "Siamese Dream" or "Gish" or even "Pisces Iscariot."

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took me two full days to listen to, i kept getting bored and moving on. like the white album, i dont think an album this long can ever be _great_, because there’s bound to be some stinkers on there. this had some good songs and some bad, but if it was half the length with only the good songs it would be so much better

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Da e jo lyttbart, men alt for langt. Seriøst, ka e poenget med dobbel-CD

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mediocre SP album. There's a lot of filler on here and it would've benefited from being a single disc release. the good songs are fucking GOOD though.

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It started okay, but I wasn't really grabbed by it to be honest.

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Too tocky

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Liian pitkä albumi

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Seemed a little slow for my tastes.

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It is nit a bad album but it is not to my likings.

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well, that was a bit of a slog. nothing on this entire album really grabbed my attention, which is a bit of a surprise, considering i generally liked their earlier work.

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boah, wie lang kann ein album sein

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I don't even really know, just too god damn long. A 6 CD album shouldn't be on here. In the past I've liked 1-2 smashing pumps songs, but just found all of it a bit whiney american rock shiz

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It would’ve been a three had it not been 2 hours of music I didn’t really enjoy that much

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Got some good ones

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Completely over indulgent. Few good tracks. Got bored as fuck.

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Too much flannel. Was a chore.

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Sorry, not my thing and not listening to 4 albums of it!

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When the song composition is at its sparsest, both in sound and time, this album is engaging and lives up to its admittedly alluring title. However, the album is often too full and too long for its own good (and the good of its listener). This is probably best explained by the transition from “Tonight, Tonight” (a full, well-balanced power ballad) to “Jellybelly” (a confusing, thrashing, grating, nasally (oh so very, very nasally) song whose lyrics are drowned by the fuzzily mixed guitars and frantic drumming). This transition encapsulates my mixed feelings about this album; I love the “Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness” and “Tonight, Tonight”, I hate “Jellybelly” and “Zero”. If “Jellybelly” is too loud and grating, “Zero” is just quiet enough for me to hear Corgan’s truly awful lyrics (“Emptiness is loneliness/And loneliness is cleanliness/And cleanliness is godliness/And God is empty just like me” sounds like the scribblings of some teenager whose angst has driven him away from his childhood religion; it is genuinely painful to listen to). And that seems to be the story of this two hour long album. For the most part, the music is fuzzy, grating, and far too long (the songs average more than 5 minutes). When I can actually make out Corgan’s lyrics through the screaming guitars and the nasal inflection, I feel like I am listening to poetry he wrote when he was a teenager. However, the album is punctuated by truly beautiful compositions (“Tonight, Tonight”; “To Forgive”; “Cupid de Locke”; “Porcelina of the Vast Oceans”; “Take Me Down”; “1979”; “Thru the Eyes of Ruby”; “Beautiful”; “Lily (My One and Only)”). Unfortunately, for the most part these beautiful songs are exhausting to listen to because they are sandwiched between other exorbitantly long songs. “Porcelina of the Vast Oceans” sums this up perfectly. It is the longest song on the album, but when I listen to it without all the build up of the previous 12 tracks, I don’t feel its length in the least. However, put it back in the context of the album and it becomes laborious to get through. Further, not all of the softer ballads are winners. “By Starlight” stands out as a song of soft instrumentation punctuated by the infantile lyricism. This is an album that needed to be cut in half. It feels like Smashing Pumpkins included every song they finished in the recording studio because they couldn’t decide which they should cut. The connecting theme seems to be Corgan’s lyrics, which are often corny, superficial, and painful to anyone who has grown up beyond their teenage years. Frankly, it is a chore to listen to the whole thing. This is an album whose rare, far-reaching heights are overshadowed by the far more consistent lows of Corgan’s lyricism and voice, the grating instrumentals, and the exhausting length. 3/10.

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Not a huge fan but I appreciate it

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Billy Corgan's voice is unpleasant to my ears. I probably would have enjoyed this album a lot more with a different singer.

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🎤🎸🥁

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Didn’t listen

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I have never understood the lore of this album. There's several great and even iconic songs, outnumbered only by a lot of unnecessary songs. It's a chore to get through the whole album in one listen.

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So depending on which version of this "album" you choose to listen to, it will either be 2 discs or 5. This is completely unnecessary even at 2 discs. The music is not good enough to warrant such a tactic. There are some very good and memorable songs, but they are hidden amongst bad songs on the "album" that is over two hours long. I am not smiling politely....that's a Simpson's reference.

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One of those albums I just couldn't get in to.

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I just get annoyed by his voice

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It was heavier than I thought it was going to be. Really wasn't in the mood for it.

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I'm familiar with this album. All it reminds me of is horribly cringey moments in my teenage years. I think by today's standard's it's way too cliche but I have a weird appreciation for it where I can see past that because there was a time where this album had a much stronger effect on me. But I was never really a Pumpkins fan anyway. It's a genuine classic I don't deny the brilliance of it, but Billy Corgan is a chode that takes himself way too seriously and that's all hear in his music anymore

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not my vibe and i'm not mad about it

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It goes on a bit…

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2/5

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This is the Smashing Pumpkins album I'm most familiar with. Not that I've ever owned it, but it was on the radio, MTV, etc. To be honest my friends and I used to mock this one a bit because of lines like "despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage" and Billy Corgan's melodramatic and whiny vocals. Only ever heard the singles before, but listening to it as an album it feels bloated and oddly paced. The first song on the album seems to be entirely ornamental and placed there in an effort to dress up this collection of songs with something that seems more serious and higher minded, posing as a concept album - which I absolutely do not think this is. The comparisons to "The Wall" are completely daft. It's not the size that counts. Not that I would enjoy it that much more but I wish they would have shown a little more discretion in their track selections. I couldn't make it all the way through. Honestly I'm sort of baffled that this was as big as it was.

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What a slog. The Smashing Pumpkins barely have enough material for one song, let alone a 2-hour plus album.

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Got through disc one. Real range of styles but wasn't enjoying enough to continue. The vocals were grating. Didn't add.

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Yeah it's just really not my type of music. Saying that, there are some really nice backing instrumentals through out, and I did like a few songs, but when there's 28 songs that's not enough. It's really the vocal style that I have the biggest problem with but that comes with the territory. Not a bad album but really not for me.

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Best Song: Jellybelly. Tipped over into heavier territory, which I wished they would do more often. Worst Song: Bullet with Butterfly Wings. Despite all its plays, the nasal voice will still just annoy me for days. Overall: Something about this album, and Billy Corgan specifically, just annoys me. The egotism and lack of self-awareness it must have taken for Corgan to write such a wandering double album, forcing us to listen to him whine out "Love is Suicide" over and over and over.

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Sone definite bangers but the length lost the album some points. Many songs spunded kinda samey

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A generic representative of the kind of generic rock music that flows out of the USA, a kind that is so generic I fail to be able to latch myself to it.

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I was a big fan of Gish and Siamese Daydream but when this came out I never liked it...time for a revisit to figure out why or how wrong I was... Eh. Bloated. I do love the beginning... gentle piano medley into "Tonight, Tonight" but there's something that was lost for me in this album and never quite sure what. Billy Corgan's vocals were never smooth, obviously, but immediately I find them more abrasive than ever. I'll have to compare but I wonder if more effort was made to fix him dry and clear on these songs. Don't like. It's just too much. What I loved about the band's first 2 albums was the dreamy and mysterious sonic landscape they created...even in their heavier songs. Many of these - while rarely bad - just don't hit that same way. It ends up as a long aural assault that I still can't connect with. There are definitely moments and it never doesn't sound like the Pumpkins. And of course there was density on the first two albums but I always felt was countered with more dynamics and *space* - (e.g Hummer from S.D.) Also 2 hours come on. Should have at least Use Your Illusion'd it. Halfway between 2 and 3 and the answer to "will I voluntarily listen to this again?" gives it the tiebreaker. 5/10 2 stars

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see i absolutely love 1979 but all the others were incomparable in a bad way the scorched earth song made me want to stick needles in my ears and never be able to hear again the first two songs gave me some hope but it immediately dropped for the next two hours.

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there's some good tracks on here, but whoever thought making it 2 hours long was a good idea...

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Coming in pretty blind. Heard a few songs at bars and the like but never got round to listening to them despite it being the seminal album of many of my university friends. Album starts well enough with an instrumental but I have always found the vocals a little off putting. The album is long. Very very long. It's filled with lighter numbers but it's generally pretty heavy. The riffs very in quality. There is a good song or bit here and there but I found it largely a total drag.

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Dobbeltalbum, en blanding af rock og metal, til tider udmærket, men for langt

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nah

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The worst of Smashing Pumpkins. Overreaching, overdramatic, overproduced. Gish and Siamese Dream maybe set expectations too high for me, but this double album was just twice the let down. Yes, there are a couple redeeming songs, but not enough to save the collection.

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I love Gish and Siamese Dream but this album.. I've always been disappointed by it. A few songs are ok but overall it's not very good.

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It started good… until he starting singing

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No fair judgement as his way of singing prevents me from listening objectively to the music

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I brought three albums when I was trying to get into "real" music. Rage against the machine self titled, blink 182 take off your pants and jacket and this. I really struggled to listen to it back then and nothing has changed. His voice whines on, its far too long, some occasional tolerable stuff but over all just not for me

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This is the first review to really surprise me. Perhaps that means that the negativity is mostly on my mood, or wanting to be contrarian, or comparisons to the other low points so far. In any case, it feels a little shallow to complain about Billy Corgan's voice, but I find it truly annoying. The songs, on the other hand, are fine. The guitars are a high point sometimes. There are some pretty solid tunes (that I would like better covers). The second disc seems much better, but I'm not a little offended that I listened to the first to get to it. I would have appreciated these songs more in a compilation, which is what Mellon Collie sounds like. I'm shocked that it's an album.

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Not a fan

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despite all my rage

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Simply noise, and not very nice noise at that.

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Loved 1979 when it came out and love it all over again now. I could never hear the words before,but now with lyrics on apple, for the first time I saw them. Shows I am a rhythm, beat and music -more than lyrics girl. Another alternative rock I didn’t care for. The album cover is beautiful. A masterpiece of art traveling through space. Talent is there but I couldn’t find it. I am guessing it’s in the pumpkins they are smashing, in search of that talent.

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Awful

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Good name shit band

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No comment.

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A whiny discordant mess.

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Garbage

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I can't explain how much I dislike the vocals on this album. Not familiar with These guys, I also gave Siamese dream or w/e a 1. It's not for me at all. The most listened to song on this album was just okay to me. Writing sucks on it too.

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Smashing pumpkins have never really been my thing.

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Listened to a few songs. Wandered off to watch some paint dry.

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Åter igen olyssningsbart bös.

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отличная обложка альбома просто смак а песни калл какой то мне не зашло

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“An album that isn't worth your time or money"

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Yeah this one wasn’t that great at all. I can recognize why some may enjoy it, but for me, it felt like every other alt rock album I’ve heard prior (a genre that so far hasn’t impressed me). The biggest issues for me were the vocals which got very ear grating after a bit and the runtime. This project did not need to be 2 hours long, I’m sorry. The instrumentation at least was decent for the most part. I’d say this is the first album I didn’t care for during this challenge which is unfortunate. Highlights: 1979 I guess

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no

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Wow, I forgot how much I hate this. I really liked Gish and Siamese Dream when they came out but this album ruined the band for me. A few songs in I thought if they'd done this as thrash/black metal with distorted vocals it could totally work. Somewhere in disc 2 I had to start hitting 'next' after half a song and even that was tough to get through.

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Nope sorry. started off into it with a long intro, then the guy started singing in a crappy metal way but over garage rock tunes. 90s albums have been taking a beating here but oh my god this is just bad.

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perseverance

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Not pretty much my music

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