New Forms

This is one that really shows the UK bias in this list. I don't think anyone (non-UK people, anyway) outside of drum and bass or DJ culture would consider this any kind of essential album - it's cultural relevance is pretty niche in the rest of the world - so I don't know how much it belongs here. That said, giving it a fair hearing, I didn't enjoy it too much. I could get into some of the beats but the overall style and production sounds very dated and I found most of the vocals kind of embarrassing.

Listening to this entire album felt like having a panic attack in the back row of an international flight. 2

Ok Roni, we both know I didn’t listen to the full thing, so let’s just shake hands on a 3

Very rare for an electronic/dance music album to win the Mercury Music Prize but it is completely unprecedented for a drum and bass album. I'd be surprised if it will ever happen again. This is one of the albums that put drum & bass on the mainstream music map. It's a wicked album, super pioneering, blending lots of different influences, particularly jazz and hiphop. You've also got to factor in the timing of it, artist-led d&b albums were not common in 1997. And it still sounds fresh! "In The Mode" might edge "New Forms" for tunage, but it is nowhere near as groundbreaking or influential. 10/10

There is no universe or reality in which this is an essential album. It does nothing well and is not unique or memorable. 78 minutes of the same mediocre d&b beat over and over again.

Snoozefest. This album overstayed it's welcome so much, it put a tent up in my living room and left its feet sticking out the flap, muddying up my rug. Being boring is more sinful than being bad.

Was a really tough call between a 4 and a 5. On the one hand it’s a seminal album that has influenced a lot of the music that I like nowadays, with some classic d&b tracks in there. On the other, I felt it dragged a bit and some of the tracks went by without really making an impact. I’m also not sure I’d listen to this as a full album all that regularly, which should rule it out as a 5. But it’s difficult to ignore it’s legacy and influence. This is the most torn I’ve been about my scoring of an album yet.

Every song was easily a minute or two too long. I have a lot of drum n' bass, but the songs either need to ba shortened or another theme needs to be put in there. They were getting tedious. I appreciated him for what he was trying to do, but... man.

I remember this sounding like the future when it came out. It still sounds fresh, but time has tamed it. Runs out of steam and becomes irritating in places.

When the drums started I was like "alright this is not bad." Hip hop but sorta jungle electronica-ish? Not bad to have on in the background while working (which I am doing now). I like New Forms... uh huh, uh huh, uh huh. Reminds me a bit of DJ Shadow, there's a darkness here that I like. Oh shit this is the 2hr album. I did enjoy it, but Jungle/DnB is very draining lol, but I was working and trying to stay awake so it worked well. 3.5 up to 4.

A classic. This album was one of the first DnB albums I heard and definitely helped send me down the path.

Why is this garbage considered music. Someone standing behind a computer pushing buttons while the crowd trips on Ecstasy. Never heard of Roni Size or Reprazent, and wish I never had. More worthless electronica shit that has no place on a list like this. What did this influence? This is the music aliens listen to while they probe your arse. Fuck electronica, and drum'n'bass. 9-10 minute songs with looped shitty lyrics, and wind chimes as a musical instrument. And why would someone turn Morse code (the most irritating sound on earth) into a song? Favourite song: Beatbox because it's only 1 minute long. It features someone trying to beatbox, but they're so bad at it that they just record a small clip and looped it to make it sound impressive, but it is actually shit. Least favourite songs: the whole fucking album. 1/5. There's an hour and 20 minutes I'll never get back.

- First album I couldn't finish - Repetitive beats and not great vocals - Felt like I'd been listening for hours - Really questioning the validity of the Mercury Prize if this won

Yeah, I'm definitely biased for this one. I'm a British guy who loves a lot of electronic music and was introduced to Drum and Bass at a young age. I can only imagine the effect it had at release, winning the 1997 Mercury Prize and likely being one of the seminal albums that brought DnB to a mainstream audience. It's impossible for me not to love this album. I just wish more DnB songs utilised a double bass. Favourite: Brown Paper Bag

Brown Paper Bag is a stone cold classic and was one of several massive tunes from the end of that decade to facilitate the beginnings of a crossover to the mainstream for late-90s Jungle/D&B. A lot of the tracks are on the minimally-orchestrated/barebones side, and some are actually tosh, but some of them are standout and have a huge vibe to them. Definitely worth checking the 20th anniversary edition over the original release, as it includes hours of extra singles releases, B-sides and alternative mixes. Best tracks: Brown Paper Bag (the full vocal remix is better IMHO), Matter of Fact, Heroes (and the 2017 remix), Hi-Potent (originally released as the B-side to Brown Paper Bag 12" single, and you'll notice the iconic double bass sample in a less chopped up form), Trust Me (simple but brutally effective dancefloor classic!) (and the 2017 remix), Share The Fall (for those who like their jazzy beats chopped and sliced), Jazz, Ballet Dance (very Paradox/Seba/Fanu/Equinox/Pieter K/PFM/LTJ Bukem style), Western (which uses the classic "Let a Woman Be a Woman" break) (and the 2017 remix)... yeah, this is a solid slab of Bristol-infused Drum & Bass from Roni Size, Die, Krust and Suv from the late 90s, with some fresher takes on some of the tunes from the last decade. It's not a 5 star album, but it's a strong 4-star contender -- if only for the amount of newcomers it brought in to the genre, thanks to its accessible style and pop-infused sensibilities, which were still not as prevalent in the late 90s (most D&B back then was quite dark and moody).

Listening to this gave me anxiety. Spotify served me up a 5 hour, 4 disc album set for this title. No chance I was going to make it through that without falling ear-first onto a fork. I listened to the first one and called it a day.

Excellent drum & bass album. It felt rather repetitive at first, but I got into it once the more familiar tracks kicked in, and on the second listen it all fell into place nicely.

Big Roni Size fan but had not heard this album end-to-end. I really enjoyed it and will probably revisit. This artist sent me down a big drum n bass rabbit hole back in the 90s that I still dive into from time to time. Love the jazz and (light) reggae influences, and the vocals, while not always my cup of tea, aren't overly distracting and in the case of "watching windows" really add to it.

I used to love drum and bass but never really saw the point in Dance Music that you don’t dance to. This album bridges the gap somewhat with more hip hop influenced vocals, jazzy double bass and skittery live drums. I mostly enjoyed the half time triphop stuff like Watching Windows. It didn’t get nearly as much acclaim but Roni Size and DJ Die worked together again a few years later on Breakbeat Era, which I think really nails this style of more “listenable” D&B.

Without a doubt it’s a classic of the genre however drum & bass is now considered quite niche and has stepped in and out of fashion since its late 90’s heyday. New Forms is up there with Timeless & Modus Operandi and is maybe a bit more accessible, Heroes & Watching Windows being big singles. It’s the likes of Brown Paper Bag, Hot Stuff & Down where the surgically produced bass come to the fore. Hadn’t listened to this in a while and to be honest picked out a few tracks for the review. Still stands up!

Familiar with the full vocal remix of Brown Paper Bag from an MTV comp called AMP2. Fondly remember watching AMP late at night and am generally a fan of this era of electronic music. 1 cd alone can hold an indulgent amount of music in 70+ mins but a double cd is alot to take in. Had to listen in two separate sessions. Though drum n bass is very "meaty" as far as electronic music goes, the higher BPMs over the course of a double cd can be exhausting if you're not on drugs. Like the upright bass sound. I think I prefer the 2nd disc from "Intro" on. Its more instrumental/atmospheric and has a wider range of moods.

The drum and bass feels pretty dated. But they do some interesting stuff with it.

This feels like a meme, something in a late 90s / early 2000s show would use to demonstrate "dangerous youth" at a bus-stop

This shit gives me anxiety. 1/5

power of the what now?! foreskin? no thank u champ. am i gonna be able to listen to this whole thing?! really not feeling it

This is a stone cold 5 if you don't know you don't know. Brown paper bag alone transformed so many raves. This is what 90's music should have been instead of generic indie.

Офигенный drum and bass альбом. Уверен тогда был классикой

Boom! Yes! As a child of 90s Britain, time was that you couldn't adjust your stereo without landing on a pirate drum n bass station. I'm sure the purists will hate this album but in the genre they don't come bigger than Roni Size. Iconic

This album on computer speakers: 2* This album on headphones: 5* and that's the way I first listened to it at the time, so I go with the 5*

4.5 stars. Probably not the first drum'n'bass record to have heavy jazz sounds and influences, but certainly the landmark album (and a 2CD behemoth at that!) establishing what is still a very active subgenre and world of music. Classic.

Forgot how much I loved the songs on this album - reminder of the 90’s and whilst at Uni

Yes, this is great! I already know and love this album. Drum and bass is a style of electronic music I'm not massively familiar with. I guess it's mostly a singles-oriented club genre - but this one is an ambitious, fully-realised album that also makes you want to get on a dancefloor. I love the cerebral ambient moments combined with thumping energy. I love the basslines, which I guess are often being sampled from jazz/funk/soul records? I actually think the shorter version (which was originally the 1CD/cassette release) works amazingly in a single sitting, but I'm not opposed to hearing the whole 140-minute double album anytime! 5*

I don't need to review this. 5* all day long.

Epitomises a genre I love and that was uniquely British in its inception despite obvious influences from hip-hop, jazz etc.

Yes. I remember a couple of these tracks from release, and enjoyed at the time. Listening back now I'm pleasantly surprised at how cohesive, catchy and just plain good this album is. Gets five stars for freshness, even after 25 years.

Interesting d&b album!

Super new millennium vibes, those drums were amazing

Wowwwww some jungle history. Incredible

I think this was the album that introduced me to drum and bass or it was the most impactful for me at the time. I saw the video for Brown Paper Bag late one night on MTV and got the album the next day. Not a bad album to start on considering it’s now revered as one of the best of all time. I still throw it on from time to time all though I don’t usually make it through the whole thing. Taking this album on is a pretty big commitment unless it’s a background thing. Like most songs in the electronic world from this time there’s a lot of repetition through out the lengthy tracks, at times that’s the one thing that sets this album back a bit unless you’re looking for something meditative. Roni Size gets a lot of credit on this album but I feel like DJ Krust is a pretty major contributor too, earning production credits as part of Reprazent. I stumbled upon Krust’s music not long after discovering this album and I loved that he had a similar sound but really pushed his songs further with a more cinematic approach. Aside from having a stellar collective of producers, there’s also some talented vocalists, rappers and musicians featured through out as well. You can tell this collective really poured everything into this album without it feeling overstuffed, it still holds up and I was happy to revisit it.

I was so happy that there was finally an electronic album but as soon as I pressed play on the first track and I heard a drumnbass beat I knew that my excitement was for nothing. The thing is, some of the songs were actually really good like the title track but the beat just ruined the whole thing for me. So much wasted potential 😣

Best Song: Railing. Makes me feel like I'm wearing neon wraparound glasses and absolutely thrashing in an abandoned parking garage. Worst Song: Matter of Fact. This kind of music only works for me insofar as it is unabashedly in-your-face. Here it attempts to do this wishy-washy background thing, which just comes off as annoying. Overall: I liked some of the boomboomclaps and not other boomboomclaps, but I lack the vocabulary to describe what makes some better than the others. As a listener naive to this genre of music, it initially felt like it had an exciting speed and energy to it but I found that I quickly acclimatized to the speed and was left finding it too repetitive.

A decent drum and bass album by Roni Size. It perfectly encapsulates the sound of the 90s, with the repetitive drums and high hat synths with underlays of record scratching that were often heard in many 90s movies. Best: Brown Paper Bag Worst: Mad Cat

There was drum and there was bass

Very conflicted here. I like this - some of it very much - but it just goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on...

Kinda cool, but nothing crazy

It’s the late 90s, beer is cheap and the Tories have been booted out. Cool Britannia is in full swing. A bunch of 20 year olds are making their way back from an all night rave, Roni is blasting out on the car stereo and the drum and bass washes over them as the summer sun starts to rise. The hints of jazz add to the vibe and they are loving life. Meanwhile everyone else on the planet is glad that the skip function exists! Top track: Brown paper bag (well the first 3 minutes of it).

DnB can be exciting to listen to when driving, dancing, gaming, et cetera. It's a cornerstone dance genre and a good cultural export for the UK. Put it on for the background of a chatty party when you don't want any singalongs. It is a little strange (and less exciting) to sit down and actively listen for over an hour (over two hours if you listen to the second disc.) I respect the craft, but won't be on this journey again. If you give a shit about DJing you might get a big kick out of this. The more interesting stuff is on the second disc, which is a shame because it means fighting through an hour of often indistinguishable break beats to get to it. Highlights: New Forms, Hi-Potent, Trust Me

Un calvaire historique, la police n'interviendra qu'après 2h20 de tapage nocturne. La nuit de sommeil est par conséquent d'ores et déjà foutue.

This is outrageous, this is contagious. This is outrageous, this is contagious. So futile.

God it’s just shit. I refuse to listen to any more

Pre-listening thoughts: 2.5 hrs… drum and bass… no… Post/during listening thoughts: it’s all the same and there is almost nothing redeeming about this. We were on such a good streak so makes sense we got hit with a dud 2/10 DID I NEED TO HEAR THIS BEFORE I DIE: NO Fav tracks: Beatbox Least fav tracks: yes

Maybe I'm just spoiled by Daft Punk or LCD Soundsystem-type stuff...or maybe I just don't know enough about Drum and Bass, but why does it feel like it never goes anywhere? 'Brown Paper Bag' didn't have to be nine minutes....I got the gist of it in the first three. Repeat this logic for the other tracks and you don't have a 100-minute slog. I'm writing this review whilst listening to track eight. If the next 14 tracks knock my socks off, I'll gladly contact admin so I can edit my review. 1.5 stars...rounding down because it's ever so long.

First album since I think Wonderful Rainbow that I just straight up did not finish. More like New Forms of torture.

MASSIVE

That break beat had me busting moves

THIS THE JAK II SOUNDTRACK BEFORE JAK II CAME OUT HOW COULD I NOT LOVE IT WITH MY ENTIRE HEART

Forms, when taking shape, tends to fill perceptions held by the person or thing that it is in front of and whatever it ends up being is the very thing that it may very well be known for in eternity. Roni Size and Raprazent's New Forms, in all of its gargantuan shapes and glory, is drum'n'bass at its most bombastic, taking on all comers in its initial design and the litany of remixes that represents it. Regardless of its exhaustive nature and the repetitive feel it may sustain throughout, New Forms is the absolute peak of the top of the d'n'b mountain. It's all downhill from here.

Yeah, it’s long and repetitive, but it’s groovy as all get-out. Also, it holds a special place in my heart, because it’s one of a handful of records that comes from a time when this type of music began to solidify itself as something very important tome.

Very enjoyable

Landmark debut. A brilliant bit of beat making that manages to be built in long tracks that while repetitive never stagnate. Feels like jazz drum n bass.

Classic d’n’b sound.

I guess I'm in the minority here, but I love this album. Drum n bass (or jungle as some people used to call it) is a genre that was just flooded by artists who all kind of sounded alike. It simple enough. Grab a sample of the famous 'Amen break', speed it up, and put some synths on top and you've got yourself a jungle track. It's simple, it works, but it gets a bit boring. The mid-90s saw a handful of artists who managed to do something a little more interesting with the genre. Goldie's 'Timeless' was heralded as a classic, but personally it leaves me very bored, despite many attempts to get into it. LTJ Bukem has some decent songs if you just want some chill background music. Photek is interesting, though he never really managed to create a strong full length album. A lot of this now sounds pretty dated. Goldie doesn't really seem so timeless any more. But for my money, the true heroes were always Roni Size and his group Reprazent. 'New Forms' is (for me), the one really impressive drum n bass album that actually survives the test of time, if only because it has more character than the others. It has the dynamics that are severely missing from Goldie, the urban landscapes missing from Bukem, and the variety missing from Photek. It's heavily influenced by hip hop, and lightly by jazz. It's rooted in an urban landscape but occasionally lifts you up into space before you plummet back down and hit the ground running. The vocalists aren't merely singing on these songs, but feel slightly chopped up, as though their words are trying to fit into the space in between the beats. 'New Forms' won the Mercury Prize when it was released and it's well deserved. My main complaint about 'New Forms' is that the 2 disc version starts to drag (never mind the anniversary edition with 4 discs!). Technically, this is the original, with the single disc version coming out later. The album only needs the first disc, no more and no less, and I treat the other one as bonus tracks.Aside from that, I think it deserves serious consideration as a classic from that era.

Jut amazing album. Share The Fall and Watching Windows are still my fav dnb tracks

Guay, pero un poco repetitivo.

Ignore the detractors, New Forms was ground breaking, bringing d&b to a mainstream audience whilst losing none of its authenticity. It just slaps.

Jungle is massive!

Outstanding. Railing really sets the scene and just as you think this song is getting even better you're already a minute into Brown Paper Bag which in itself is exceptional. New Forms, Let's Get It On, and Digital keep the ball rolling. Heroes is a fun track and Watching Windows has been a favourite of mine for a long time.

A stone cold classic - lots of nostalgia for this - I'm cheerfully listening to the full 4cd reissue version and it doesn't feel like too much of a good thing. Re-listened to it recently, actually, as there was a minor kerfuffle in my friend group when we discovered that the version we'd all been familiar with (on a single CD) isn't even the whole album!? There were a bunch of extra tracks we'd never heard of, and looking at discogs most of the versions were on 2 CDs or 4 LPs - I guess we were all poor students back then, so bought the presumably cheapest option... Fave track - could be quite a few of them, but I have to side with "Railing" for a line of lyrics that's lived rent free in my head for decades now: Do you think that you can hang tough, when the rhythm gets rough and the DJ says "I think you've had enough"? 😎

Going into bat for ‘New Forms’. It’s an awesome record. This and ‘Timeless’ by Goldie are the two great drum and bass records from the era and in my opinion haven’t been bettered. ‘New Forms’ blew my small teenage mind as I tried to understand what the hell a break beat was, and why it wasn’t four on the floor. Its sound was expansive, and it was full of jazzy licks, but it also had songs with vocals. And I loved it. It was accessible to the masses and that’s why it was so universally acclaimed and popular upon its release winning the 1997 Mercury Prize and going platinum in the UK. Yes, it’s long at over two hours, and I’ll admit the second disc is probably not quite as strong as the first, but man this still slays. Equally at home on the dancefloor, or at home while you nod your head and stroke your chin to its hypnotic rhythms, ‘New Forms’ is one of the very best electronic dance music records of all time.

oh, how obsessed we were with this in school. I had a cd so i was asked to bring it to every house party. masterpiece!

These long albums are killing me but I really liked this one

after looking it up, this album was his debut album from Roni Size & Reprazent and it won the Mercury Award for best album of the year in the UK. It went five times platinum and was one of the most commercially successful jungle albums of the 90s. I can see why - this album is unbelievably creative and uses unbelievable sound design and creativity in the creation of each and every track.

This was my style in the early 2000's

Pioneer Electronic producer and amazing double cd. 5/5

I didn't know this existed but this music flows so well and is very groovy. I can listen to this all day

perfect drum and bass album. whats not to love?

ooooohwweeeee. I used to like this album, but hadn't come back to it for a long time. Now I have a much wider knowledge of drum & bass, and a better sound system, it is banging in new ways for me!

Love D&B. I'm happy to see some representation of non-rock music in this list for once. This album rules, there's a reason it's one of the seminal albums of the genre.

Instant 5 stars. I love drum and bass and I love Roni Size.

Music at it finest, Roni and the gang represent with this tour de force. Before this DNB was just anither EDM genre. Tgey took it to new heights and indeed forms. Absolute banger also concided with being a teenager in Bristol never forgot going down Versatility ahh the days.

I enjoyed this. Nice mix of jazz and hip hop styles.

I liked this a lot but an hour and forty minutes ended up being several days of commuting and sitting in traffic is not my preferred venue for d&b. Nevertheless, i love the jump up basslines. 3.5

That was really great. I was never a big drum and bass fan but I really enjoyed this album

For an album from the 90’s it fit with a lot of stuff that I listen to today. I can feel the inspiration for a lot of other songs.

Good, classic DnB

Solid og electro

Great to do homework to.

I’m heavily biased towards drum n bass, so I won’t even try to be objective. I had a great time with this album, this sort of music lulls you into a flow state where you can focus of the music and do whatever you want, it’s the perfect work music for me, but it’s also just the perfect chill out and relax music.

Brown Paper Bag and Heroes are the stand outs for me. First time I heard BPB I was so intrigued and it wasn't til a while later I learnt what it was called and who it was by which led me to track down this album. About six years late to the party but it's a great party

Funky

I liked it a LOT

So exciting at the start. Falls off pretty hard tbh but overall excellent and redolent of its time and place. An era when jazzy D'n'B looked like it might conquer the world. I mean, I'm kind of glad that didn't happen but the newness felt great at the time. Some of the tracks drag but I'm still scoring this high for overall aesthetic and vibe.

This was a fun experience! Fun music

I do think this album goes on too long... even if you just listen to Disc 1, but both Disc 1 and 2 are very good and brought a very well made and fresh style in a way that is easily digestible, just as many other electronic acts did at the end of the 90's. This is definitely an album I'd put on again while doing house work or working or something where I want an upbeat piece that moves but does demand my full attention to appreciate.

Cet album est sans contredit une somme, un travail colossal de conception, d'assemblage et d'orchestration. Alors que je ne suis pas attirée vers ce genre de prime abord, mon attention a bien été attirée et retenue par cet album.

Pretty fun record. Didn’t get through the 5 hour re release edition the app links to though.

Love the sound DnB is dear to me

Exactly the kind of music I love putting on for a long drive home at night. I listened to Brown Paper Bag while cruising on the highway and delighted at every vocal and instrumental twist and turn. Truly masters of the drop.

I'm a sucker for DnB, what can I say?

DnB forever <3.