Entertainment! is the debut album by English post-punk band Gang of Four. It was released in September 1979 through EMI Records internationally and Warner Bros. Records in North America. Stylistically, it draws heavily on punk rock but also incorporates the influence of funk, dance music, reggae and dub. Its lyrics and artwork reflected the band's left-wing political concerns. It would be an influential release in the burgeoning post-punk movement. In 2020, Entertainment! was ranked at number 273 on Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 greatest albums of all time.Wikipedia
Like being hit across the back of the head with a frying pan wrapped in barbed wire. Spiky, cold and indifferent to your feelings; a lot like my first girlfriend. Except this album didn't give me a hand job round the back of a youth club. Best Tracks: Natural's Not In It; Damaged Goods; I Found That Essence Rare
Never heard of this group. Very bright, punchy punk. Reminds me a bit of Parquet Courts. Wikipedia describes a lot of political lyrics and themes--I'm gonna take their word for it because I don't find myself catching many lyrics on here, aside from "Your kiss so sweet.....your sweat so sour." Damn, what a line. "Damaged Goods" is awesome. If the whole album had that energy, I'd be head over heels for this. Alas, we got what we got. It's still good, but I won't be cosigning the classic status. Favorite tracks: Damaged Goods (by a mile), I Found That Essence Rare, Not Great Men. Album art: Really like this one. The color choices are terrific. I love how much of this is just empty space. The three-panel story on the right is a great political statement, much more conspicuous than the lyrics. This whole cover fits the album well. 3.5/5
Love the bass forward sound. Love when bass has more of an equal share in the mix and more freedom to be a melodic contributor alongside the guitar, rather than simply being a support. I'd argue that the bass is actually driving the hooks here and is in a sense the main the melodic instrument, with the guitar playing more of an accent /support role stabbing in there with a really trebly sound. Lots of interesting changes and movement/stopping/in/out/bursts of energy. I'm a sucker for this flatter yet still passionate singing style too. Like the way they seem to cut in lower fidelity possibly demo recordings into the mix for effect at certain points throughout. Lyrics and subject matter are my cup of tea. Not too much love and relationships shit here. Punk with a college degree. I might be an Anglophile. Listened to this several times.
At first this was a 4, but upon repeat listens it really deserves its 5 status. I'm not sure what it even means in this context, but the one word I think about this album is 'angular'. Great stuff from top to bottom, and Contract really stood out to me, especially since it isn't considered one of the top tracks on here. Full album experience.
I wish I could give this more than 5 stars. This album is straight fire all the way through and I cannot get enough of the guitar in At Home He's A Tourist.
What is there to say about this album that hasn't already been said? Post punk classic, through and through. I love the weird angular guitar work glued together with infectiously funky rhythms. Lyrics are on point and carry some significant weight; it's one of the better examples of politically driven lyrics without being whiny or preachy. Total shame what the band has become these days, a low resolution nostalgia cash grab. This album is extremely influential to me. I think Solid Gold has better songs, but as an album its the most solid of them all in their discography. Mandatory listening no matter who you are or what you like.
One of my all time favorite albums. Funky as fuck, with shredding guitars, a rhythm section that cooks and great great lyrics. I am envious of those among you that are going to discover this album and experience it anew like I did some 40 years you're in for a treat. 5 🌟
Great album with interesting rhythms and topical lyrics. This album was also hugely influential on later bands and is considered to be one of the greatest albums of the 70s. I found the mix of post-punk, funk, and dub to be particularly compelling
One of my favourite albums, still as good now as when I first heard it as a teenager and hasn't really dated at all. Love the sound of everything, and it values close listening - the bass and guitar in particular. Intelligent, anti-consumerist/capitalist/imperialist lyrics, coupled with funky jams - what more could you want?
Big fan of this one. Such a fun listen. It's a post punk album but with some more brightness and very punchy bass. Catchy melodies and great energy.
Fantastic, like Wire but hookier. Love.
I mean, it's great. If you're into punk, this is going to work for you. It's everything you love about punk - all the energy and the sheer, nihilistic joy - but with the added spice of funky beats, great production, and skillful arrangements. I just loved it.
Another classic in the punk family tree. A bit like Wire, but more groove I guess I would call it. So many of those dance/rock bands (The Killers, Franz Ferdinand, The Faint etc) owe debt to Gang of Four. It's a fine album. I give it a 4 for the music and a 5 for the influence factor.
Here, amongst the explosion of post-punk record in the late 70s and early 80s, we see the beginnings of dance-punk, which had the tone and energy of punk/post-punk alongside danceable rhythms similar to funk and disco. Entertainment! is easily the best of these early dance-punk records. Politically-charged and stilted with jagged guitar riffs, Gang of Four sounds unlike any other band from this time. Drummer Hugo Burnham holds it down so well, with steady beats driving the rhythms for the entire album. Dave Allen, on bass, keeps up with solid bass grooves not often found in punk. These two make up the "dance" side of things, while Jon King brings punk vocal attitudes over the energized guitar of Andy Gill. I love this record. It's so odd with the guitar choices and the occasional melodica, but that only adds to the charm for me. As far as post-punk is concerned, these guys made the definitive album. I find it endlessly endearing.
Talk of "angular" guitars is just noise, like the sound of the instruments themselves. Necessary to locate the songs, but what Gang of Four really has is counterpoint between the words and the rhythm section. It's particularly evident in the opening cut; After that, the band explores lots and lots and lots of sonic territory. I stress words because the lyrics, while coherent, are by far less important semantically than sonically. Sadly, I don't have the familiarity with Gang of Four to hear this well; But I do see why they echo so loud and, true to form, dig this in a major way.
This is an excellent post-punk album made like a snubbed nose to the new wave craze that was happening at the time. Solid and catchy, yet it was still giving the finger to the corporate man.
Interesting to hear this one again - still edgy, raw, strange, and intimate. High quality punk art rock. I can see where Minutemen got their vibe...
A funky af; proto-fugazi sounding, "It's native american, sir", album. Definitely recognized some of these songs as classic 'left of dial' jams, having never heard delved into Gang of Four before. Good stuff
Good album, great songwriting. Glad I got to listen all the way through. Minimal and classically post-punk, much more raw than their later work.
A great head-bopper - love the call and response of the guitar in lots of the tracks. Riffs are catchy as hell too and the off-beat strumming makes things interesting but can feel a bit same-y after a while.
The 70's deliver again. Good old fashioned anti-establishment punk. The composition of the songs themselves show a complete disregard for established pop norms, instead preferring to forge their own path. The instruments float in and out of the song and even in and out of alignment with eachother. But they all work together to create a truly distinct and enjoyable album. I was pleasantly surprised to find tracks that appear to be direct forefathers for groups like LCD Soundsystem (Not Great Men) and Blur (Ether). I'd never heard the album before, but it will defintely be on my list and it defintely belongs here as well.
Another album that cements post-punk as my favorite genre. A creative artistic mix on the punk formula by incorporating influences from other genres, most notably dance-pop and funk. Embodies the spirit of punk perfectly that follows The Sex Pistols, from the lyrical subject to vocal style to art direction. One of my favorite punk techniques is how instruments and vocals stop suddenly, to allow other elements to shine and have their place momentarily. It makes for an open experience that doesn't shroud the audience with constant noise as other genres do. The bass is my favorite, characterizing each of the songs and making them distinctive. Flows great. Several amazing songs, but none are bad. Favorite tracks: Damaged Goods, At Home He's A Tourist, 5.45, Return the Gift, Contract Least favorite: Guns Before Butter, Natural's Not In It
Four young dudes at the familiar graduate-first job juncture meet for a final pow-wow, alight on a formula for turning their tubthumping into danceable pub-funk, never have to get that first job after all.
UK punk rock with interesting fills and rhythms. Catchy without being sappy. Feels like The Hives mixed with some Rolling Stones with a bit of added edge. Really good. Added to collection.
This is almost a stereotype of dour, shouty British post-punk. Scratchy, wiry, discordant guitars coupled with anti-materialist sloganeering - I'll say this, the album title is a wonderfully dry bit of business. 'I Love a Man in Uniform' is my favourite Gang of Four track and it ain't here, but this is good stuff nonetheless.
Glisteningly sharp proto-punk. While one could claim the songs sound similar instrumentation-wise, each has a distinct, sharp take due to clever melodies and wry lyrics.
This album is probably the best post punk album ever recorded. This is the album I would recommend for anyone with an interest in checking out this genre. It really sums up what post punk was all about, still embodying the energy and anger of punk, but so much smarter and more musically adept. The lyrics are more pointed, more driven by the band's political and philosophical points of view. The songs are tight and urgently paced with great jagged, menacing guitars, propulsive drumming, and some of the best, funkiest bass work in post punk. Fave Songs: Damaged Goods, Not Great Men, Ether, 5.45, At Home He's a Tourist, I Found Essence Rare
The punkiest post-punk i've heard. Took a bit of adjusting to, but the reliably dancey, punchy bass lines that this genre needs are here in spades and scratchy guitars, angry vocals and political lyrics are all here too. I feel like this has an edge and energy that often has scarified for the moody atmosphere of other bands in the genre - and there is a tradeoff, because Entertainment certainly is less absorbing and immersive than a joy division record, but It's a cool side of the genre. standouts: damaged goods, return the gift
This is new to me and I like it. This project is showing me what a variety of genres and sub-genres were developed or furthered in the '70s. A lot of the sounds in this album preview all sorts of things that showed up in the decades to follow, and I'm sure if I were to study the roots and influences of this band, I'd find earlier incarnations of this danceable semi-punk-rock-pop stuff that's a lot of fun to hear. Dang, they play superbly well and wicked tight. (I know, I write that a lot -- forgive me: as a beginner musician myself, I know how much it takes to get to that skill level; I've got years and years to go, so I admire it when I hear it.) Good stuff.
Another great surprise in the punk/post-punk genre. Once again an English band I'd never heard of that put out some really solid stuff. The lyrics are awesome (I'm going to have to listen 10 more times just to fully grasp them) and the sound pulls you in. That sound isn't overly complex (pulsing bass as the backdrop, tortured guitar chords, enough drums mixed in) and is similar to other trail blazers from this era, but it rocks. I immediately thought of Fugazi when I heard Ether - I wonder if Gang of Four had any influence on their sound. I got to Glass before I hit a track that I found a bit dull but it bounced back quickly, especially with At Home He's a Tourist two tracks later. Natural's Not In It, I Found That Essence Rare, and Damaged Goods were also particularly good. I'll be going back for more listens of this album and this group.
Picture yourself as a 20-yr old living in the doldrums of the Thatcher-Reagan hellscape, surviving in a shitty London suburb with 4 other people in a 2 bedroom leaky apartment with no job and it's raining all the time. And you're just tired and angry but wired like an East Vancouver tweaker jumping from skateboard to stairs to railing at 100mph. That's what this album sounds like. There's no way I should like this album...I love grandiose sweeping music, big production, arena or stadium filling chills-inducing progressive side-long complex time-signature and key jumping epics. But for some reason I kind of have always loved this album. Angular and angry guitars, very very dry production. I usually hate that but here, it's awesome. This is nowhere near calming music - this is not breakfast table music - this is generally not to be played after Fleet Foxes (which in my case it was but I love them both). Killer tracks are "I Found That Essence Rare" and "Anthrax" the latter of which is just.so.weird. Two completely different vocal tracks stepping right on top of each other, spoken word, but every once in a while they align. You might really hate this album and I wouldn't blame you one bit. It's ugly. I don't even like punk music... I don't know - I just love this - I shouldn't but it's a mood. Aggressive, interesting and unique guitar work, bass propelling everything. I always forget to pronounce migraine as "mee-grain" - I'll get there. 8/10 4 stars.
Another completely new thing to me. Punk. Okay. Punk-ish. The song *Natural's Not In It* could even be AltRock. This album could have been dropped in 2000 and kinda fit in with Jet, The Vines, and The Hives. Okay. Maybe that's a stretch but whatever. What I type here doesn't really matter. Fuck conformity and fuck the establishment. I am not a punk rock fan, but this was really good. I did not expect to like this as much as I did. oh and fuck the hippies too. Favorite song: Damaged Goods.
Never heard this before but definitely see how this was influential. Not really a punk fan but I enjoyed the listen. Solid 3 stars.
This album really didn't do much for me, it's safe to say I was not entertained. It's one of many of those early 80's punk albums, except this one had almost nothing interesting to offer. The mixing is flat and bland and the songs are all forgettable, but I will say that I liked the bass, it was the only thing that stuck out. The songs are all so samey sounding that the whole album just started to blur together, with nothing really distinct happening. The shrill guitar, the distant british vocals, the treble-heavy drums, it was all the same in every song. The album art is almost as bland as these songs too, so at least they're honest. I think I'm going to go listen to Talking Heads now.
Haha damn, man, I feel like this has to be the most popular genre on this list. Seems like every other album is a British punk-rock band. I'm trying to give it a fair shake but finding it a bit tough admittedly.
Could have swore they were saying "please send me emails on weekends" on 'Return the Gift' which is actually super punk but nothing else really stood out for me.
Gang of Four? More like, "Please, no more"! This album reminds me of the Ramones but if they all took some melatonin before making an album. Very boring, not extremely bad but there really wasn't anything on this album that was impressionable to me (except the over 1 minute of guitar feedback on the last song that made me wanna throw my phone at a wall). Definitely not gonna listen to it again, sorry gang of four. (also here's some more disses I can think of, Gang of Four? More like, "I'm out the door!" or "There's the door!")(Gang of Four? More like, "My ears are sore!")(Gang of Four? More like, "Oh this is a bore!")(Gang of Four? More like, "I'd rather go to war!")(Gang of Four? More like, "I can't take this anymore!") Yeah, not my cup of tea.
If this project has solidified one thing: I hate post punk. All the droning, talentless monotony without the enthusiasm or energy.
ur kiss is so sweet ur sweat so sour
Really 4.5 but I round up. Love the bass and guitars. Can really hear all the music it later influenced. First album that I've bought vinyl for after listening (that I don't already own)
Way more fun of an album than I remembered. Absolute banger
So funky. So fun. Very DEVO.
Excellent, and it's amazing just how fresh it still sounds 52 years later. Then again, I'm a big fan of Squid and Shame who've raised the banner for this kind of music in the past year. Love it. Highly recommended.
One of my favorite dancy-punk albums of all time. Awesome bass lines
Great new wave post punk album.
Really enjoyed this, ace beats and up my street
Post punk with intelligent lyrics that you can dance to, whats not to like? Excellent album.
Holy shit. Great album from a band I had never heard of. Love this dance-punk style a lot. Reminds me of bands like The Rapture, The Faint, LCD Sound System, etc.
Discazo. La voz igual a la de Jon King me hace pensar como un Joe Strummer menos punkish, ideal para el fin de los 70. Las lineas de bajo constante tambien son bien punk. Puedo ver perfecto como NIN y un monton de otras bandas que escucho sacaron inspiración de acá. Dejar una base constante sonando de fondo y meterle arreglos arriba es algo que se hace desde tiempos inmemorables. La verdad me encantó.
Ether is incredible
LOVED IT!. Didn't know one of the songs was an original!
The bounce of a frog. Gun drum and bass cohesion, very much enjoyed it
A really punchy album with some fun mixing of post-punk and dub/reggae type stuff happening as well. I like this album a lot.
Such an interesting blend of flavors going on here. Nothing quite like it! And that's not even getting into the lyrics. This was a delight.
Hmm. I'm inclined to give this 5 stars just based on Andy's story, but It's probably more of a 4 star thing for me, but then there's Andy's story and it's Friday so what the hell. Five goddamn stars.
Yaaaaaas Gang of Four! One of my all-time favorite bands and albums.
Yes, another classic post-punk album that never gets old and that should be on any best-of list.
hack to say but doesn't feel like it was made in 79. love it
One of my fave post-punk albums ever. Some absolute bangers on here. Fave track - "Natural's Not In It", "Guns Before Butter", "At Home He's a Tourist", "Anthrax".... I could probably add 5 or 6 more...
5/5. Oh yeah 🤘
Fuck the Red Hot Chili Peppers. There you are, the Gang of Four, making one of the truly great deconstructions of the rock album with Entertainment!, and a bunch of conceited blowhards with no heart strip your angular, provocative funk-punk for parts and use it solely to score smack and ass, and as a horrific bonus begat Crazy Town. So yes, this album is a standout masterpiece of post-punk, a genre admittedly littered with standout masterpieces. With this, we have one of the most overtly political albums of the period, a late-Marxist synthesis of Brecht, Gramsci, Marcuse (the "repackaged sex keeps your interest" refrain summarises his later philosophy in five words) and Situationism. This radicalism extends to the music, where the instrumentation is egalitarian, with the consequence being to boost the bass (thus making it as funky as all fuck) and streamline the guitar (making it as sharp as all fuck). To appreciate this fully, it helps if you know what commodity fetishism and false consciousness mean, but if you just dance as jerkily as possible to this, you should love this. You should love this anyway. The allied group Delta 5's Marxist-flavoured Mind Your Own Business were recently used to advertise Apple, and as I already mentioned, the awful RHCPs nicked the Go4's innovations and hawked them in a meaningless, bastardised manner. This is an example of not only Marcuse's despair that capitalism subsumes everything, but Baudrillard's jest of how all this is just the free interplay of signs. By the by, I am not a Marxist.
It's hard for me to adequately convey the impact this album had on me when it came out. I was about 18 or 19 when I first heard this album. I was just coming out if my prog rock high school days and was ready for a new sound that got my ass moving as well as my mind. I had never heard anything like this before. A rhythm section that demanded attention...that grabbed hold and would simply not let go. Stabbing guitar that was more color and mood than lead instrument. And the singing...real English accents that I found so damn charming. This album and Wire's first three were at the centre of a musical epiphany for me that 40 years later continues to shape my musical tastes. 5 🌟 (I'd give it 6 if I could)
"Entertainment!" is the debut album from the Leeds' band Gang of Four. Credited as one of the first post-punk bands and encorporating funk, Dance, Reggae and Dub. Their music is very much unique: a very aggressive, angular guitar with an idiosyncratic rhythm. The guitarist, at times, almost sounds like each note he plays is giving him an electric shock. The closest musical comparison I can think of is a weirder version of Devo if that's possible. The lyrics are politically far left - Situationism, feminism, theory of alienation on personal life and commodification. I obviously had to look up three of these four ideologies. Given all this, this makes for one heck of an interesting and orginal listen. "Ether" starts things off with a weird time signature from the rhythm section and that angular, aggressive guitar which almost sounds like a gun. Which is interesting, since the song is about internment (basically imprisonment) of the IRA by the British. "Damaged Goods" is the one song I've heard the most from this album. It has great driving guitar and dance beat. Undoubtedly, Bloc Party was listening. Supposedly about the effect of capitalism on a relationship. OK. A similar sounding song "I Found That Essence Rare" states that the worst thing about the 1950's were bikinis and is actually a reference to the H-bomb testing on Bikini Island. A great example of that guitar sounding like it's giving the guitarist an electric shock is "At Home He's a Tourist." Great bass line and rocking end too. I forgot how different sounding this album was/is. A pleasure going back to this one and especially hearing their influence on some future bands.
I remember when magazines used to do their occasional Top 100 albums of all time, when I'd go through the list and count how many I had. Generally I had a pretty good return in the Top 20, by the time it was into the 40s it was a lower percentage and after 50 it was more sporadic. I can always remember getting to 'Entertainment', which was usually around the mid-50s and noting that I'd never heard this band and didn't know anything about them. When I finally got around to listening to it, in my mid-late 30s, I couldn't believe that I'd missed out on this for so long. It's the sort of album I should have had in my collection since my teens. I saw them in Brisbane and they were amazing. I was going to see them again the following day at Soundwave but their stage was already running really late even by mid-afternoon and so I decided I needed to head back to the main stage for Slayer, which I regret. I was going to go see them in Brisbane again a few years ago but it got rescheduled from Feb or March to November and I was over in japan when they played but in Japan in the wrong weeks to see them there. I got offered an interview with Andy Gill and snapped it despite not being able to go to the show. It went through scores of interviews and it was so hard coming up with questions that he hadn't already been asked, even when I thought I had something that was more obscure. The interview was great, one of those you can't really believe is happening and where it felt like a very natural conversation and you could have kept going long after the 20 minutes. Whenever I open Skype, he's still there in my contacts on screen, which always makes me feel really sad.
I really like this album and band. Never heard of them before. It was a great suprise.
A seminal post-punk album. The combination of funk and staccato guitar has been much imitated since, but rarely done as well. Even rarer are bands that play this type of music and also have a pop sensibility. A classic.
Top quality, influential punk/post-punk/funk. And a few standout tunes.
Tremendous - must buy!
Post-punk. Very listenable. Succinct. Not dated.
Pretty groovy, alt Brit rock vibes. I enjoyed!
Very enjoyable post punk. You can tell how influential their sound has been. I'm surprised I'm not more familiar with the band, but this was a really good album.
Never heard of them before, but looking at the cool cover I knew it had potential to be interesting. Initial vibe was like "is this punk?". Sorta, but a little more "off". I like it. Parts of the energy remind me of RCE actually, the social commentary part of it. I like it. I'd probably give it a 3.5 but I'll round up.
It’s a jam. Four stars.
New wave makes way more sense now.
Great while I’m listening. But then it’s gone.
This is fun, and chaotic.
I like these guys. Had not listened to them in a long time, so excited to see them on the list. Really appreciate the tight hooky guitar riffs and basslines.
Fist fight in the parking lot. Buying sarkilar bir urine benziyomus gibi geldi, bi favorim sarkim yok ama albumu genel olarak begendim ben.
They managed to keep punk really interesting.
I wasn't sure what to expect with this one but some solid punk is always a nice surprise
I hadn't heard of this band and I can see how they might have influenced a lot of other bands I like. This one probably needs a few listens to get into but was entertaining to start.
Wow, I really really enjoyed this album. I have never heard of this band unless they moonlighted as communists in China. The electrical guitar and bass kicked ass and reminded me a ton of Bloc Party
This may be a 5 star because the band moves to a more complex level as songwriters and performers. Much better structure on this "themed" album. A high point for band.
post-punk. está bien.
One of the most outstanding albums from one of the best and most creative periods in pop history. Syncopated guitars, funky rhythms, lyrics full of meaning... its fame is well deserved
Albumik post punkowy, znany i lubiany, brak tu jakichkolwiek zapychaczy, kazdy kawalek niesie jakas historie, jak na ponad punkowy album motywami jest oczywiscie wszystko na litere K, od kapitalizmu, przez konsumpcjonizm po konformizm, oczywiscie motywy milosci o seksu takze sa mocno obecne, ale da sie wyczuc, ze glownym theme materialu jest alienacja czlowieka w dziesiejszym spoleczenstwie, nawet na okladce juz jest historia obrazkowa z kowbojem i indianinem, natomiast na pleckach plytki jest stary pijany, nie w wannie, ale i tak niszczacy zycie rodzinne, na plejliste leca kawalki damaged goods oraz at home hes a tourist
Viva el post-punk.
I may have a new favourite punk album
Abrasive, all in your face. Love it
Fun, though not my usual ting
I like this one way more than on my first listen. I appreciate this brand of discordant post-punk a lot more these days, and the philosophy of the album is so real.
Nice album, will check out more of their stuff
honestly loved it.
Banger, love me some post punk
Cool album Nice listening to and songs are varied 4/5
A classic. This record is really good. Its been a staple in my discography for a long time. An essential punk album that pulls no punches. I will say that it might be a little overhyped just because Kurt Cobain had them on his list of favorite bands, but it's still mega quality.
Love this. Great punk rock.
Punk artist I haven't heard of until now, pretty great
This was pretty cool
Muy interesante antecedente a muchas cosas que me conoceremos años después como !!!, Cage The Elephant, Strokes pero sobre todo Franz Ferdinand y más cercano a ellos mismos Talking Heads. Me gustó especialmente la instrumentación: tremenda base rítmica con un baterista muy lleno de detalles y un bajo sólido y unas guitarras siempre interesantes y con riffs que en su momento debieron sonar muy innovadores. Si por algo no les doy la 5 estrella (y de hecho casi me voy por 3 en vez de 4) es que un par de veces caen en esos sonidos que no sabes si lo están haciendo irónicamente o por hacer arte muy conceptual, pero entonces a veces lanzan disonancias que no me cuadran o hacen coros con frases de preparatoriano que está aprendiendo que odia el sistema y escribe "poesía".
3.5 | Otra banda que nunca había escuchado. La música agarra inmediatamente, si alguien que no tiene idea preguntara ¿a qué suena el post punk? creo que esta es una gran demostración del sonido más representativo de un género que se termino dividiendo a mil lados distintos. Un sonido de bajo fuerte, guitarras estridentes que dominan secciones cortas de las canciones. Es muy clara en partes la influencia que tuvo esta banda y sonido muchos años después en el dichoso garage revival; la diferencia en que este disco me haya agradado tanto y que la mayoría de esas otras bandas se me hagan una masa amorfa que se queda muy en el promedio es justamente que aquí, aunque se notan justo las canciones y hasta secciones que influyeron en ese estilo, no todo el disco suena igual, hay bastante variedad y no se siente todo igual. Las letras en general densas, al inicio es dificil ponerles atención pero con un par de oidas las va uno procesando. Ether, Not Great Men y At Home He's a Tourist excelentes canciones. Me agrada mucho haber escuchado este disco, música que hace clic y letras que se esfuerzan una rayita de más.
Echoes of The Clash, The Stranglers, Devo, and early Joe Jackson. A nice hard edge to some of the songs. Punk meets new wave meets alternative.
Jako snažan i dobar album.
Interesting. I was definitely not familiar going into this one, but I liked most of it.
271021 15:36 3.5
This is 100000% more my vibe. I've never heard of them but I like. I don't know if I'll add them to my CD deck, but this is the best album I've gotten so far.
This one was pretty good. I don't think I've ever heard of them or any of the songs before.
Spiky, angular, brilliant.
Great album. Really enjoyed it and put on my list for sure
Classic record that I think is a bit front loaded, but def a worthwhile listen if you have any interest at all in post-punk. "Natural's Not In It" is absolutely a banger.
This was a good punk album. I could hear The Police, Fugazi and others in their songs. Enjoyed it
Tight, tight, thight!!! Not entirely my cup of tea, but I can appreciate the creativity and energy.
Nice energy punk.
Great energy. New wave punk vibes.
nice post punk rock album
Interesting album. Liked most of the tracks.
I’ve previously discovered I like proto-punk and now I know that I also like post-punk. Gang of Four gets to stay.
I like this… very basic straight up post punk. Some catchy numbers!
post-punk. está bien.
This was pretty good
7/10. Enjoyed it a fair bit while I was walking around listening to the first half, kinda started to annoy me when I was listening and studying.
7/10 pretty good punk album.
Reminds me a lot of the Clash. I mean, I guess that's the point? Still, liked the album a lot. Definitely a band I am going to have to listen to more. A good 4.3 for me, close to 5 stars. Really digging it, along with all the things they drew on.
Mejor disco Post-Punk? Seguramente. Si te gustan The Rapture, Radio 4, Franz Ferdinand, We Are Scientists o Bloc Party, tienes que escuchar este disco de 1979!!! Y "Damage Goods" es imprescindible para entender gran parte de la música de principios del siglo XXI.
Great early punk
Le lien Tidal n'est pas le bon, mais l'album est bien présent sur la plateforme (https://tidal.com/album/72601257). Wow, quel coup de coeur pour moi. Certaines pièces m'étaient familières, peut-être entendues dans des playlists. J'aime comment la basse prend de la place pour développer les mélodies. C'est minimal aussi dans les arrangements, mais tout est là pour que ça reste accrocheur. Pièce préférée: Damaged Goods
Getting this the day after The The’s “Soul Mining” is a great 1-2 hit of British post punk from the generator. “Entertainment” is one of those universally lauded albums of its genre I’ve never made the time for, so it’s been quite a journey getting to know it. It’s a frenetic, disarming listen where the energy never lets go. It’s almost a cliche to say “wow it was only 1979, jeez they were ahead of their time”… but it’s impossible to shake the feeling that “Entertainment” could be released in 2022 and fit right into the post-punk landscape today. A lot of this is down to the talents of the band themselves: Andy Gill’s guitar hooks are jagged, abrasive, angular. All rhythm, no lead (just occasional howling feedback where any other band may throw in a glossy solo). Riffs and rhythm parts are frequently start-stop and staccato, and vocals are barked out in a manner that perfectly suits the backing. Very few notes are left to ring out, perfectly serving the spiky, punchy feel. Hugo Burnham’s drums help to drive the songs home- listen for the hi-hat and cymbals in tracks like “Natural’s Not In It” or “Love Like Anthrax” to hear they’re used sparingly, adding to the cold starkness of the production. Above all though, Dave Allen’s bass is the hero of “Entertainment”. It introduces the world to the band’s sound on “Ether” and remains in the foreground throughout: all the bass lines are good but “Contract” and “Damaged Goods” in particular deserve special mentions. The songs themselves veer between oblique despair of the state of the world (pitched perfectly in “Not Great Men” and “Guns Before Butter”) and total high-octane mania (“Natural’s Not In It”, “Damaged Goods”, “I Found That Essence Rare”… all triumphs of manic energy). Very occasionally, it’s a little much to stomach, and it would have been nice to either get a change of pace or more of the accessible end showcased so well in “Damaged Goods”. But really, that’s my own preference: the more time I’ve spent with this album, the more it’s won me over and it could very easily become a 5 star once it settles in. And gee whizz, 1979…
Belle découverte! Une énergie punk qui n’empêche pas une certaine sophistication des riffs et grooves.
I love it. Gang of Four are great. I don't really listen to them by choice a lot but they are so deep rooted in my favourite genres that Spotify plays them to me all the time and I'm always happy with that.
I actually really enjoyed this and it was a total Friday vibe when I listened to it. Luke was very happy to have it on it the flat - apparently a big thing for him a uni. Really loved the fun punk vibes and would listen again
Very happy to have discovered Gang of Four
envie de sauter partoutttt par contre on se passe de la deuxième moitié
Tight, distinctive, economic. Great bass that's used like a counterpunctual rhythm guitar. Cryptic and unusual lyrics. Brilliant stuff.. there are a couple of songs that wash over...but I like this a great deal. Solid 4.
I wasn’t crazy about the thought of post-punk… why? No good reason. I started this up with a negative attitude. Fortunately Gang of Four is pretty great and melted all that away quite quickly. I very much enjoyed bopping along to this. Clever lyrics, great songs… Glad to have my preconceptions dispelled!
Zipped through this four times today. Fun!
I can hear a lot of modern bands in this. Sounds like they would fit in with any time period between 1980 and 2000. Heavy Clash vibes
Very good traditional punk album from a band I've never heard of.
Didn’t listen that closely but really liked and would listen again
Slaps, will listen again
Banger of a punk album
Excellent, particulièrement Damaged Goods. Une belle découverte.
This is the sound of a dystopian Thatcherite nuclear winter - the sound of an sinking Argentinian destroyer and the soundtrack to that future striking coal mining automatons would funky dance to. To me subjectively this is an awesome album - influential to me on a musician level and most of my favorite musicians probably count this band as an influence. Lovely.
Early punk kind of reminiscent of the Ramones with the bouncy guitar riffs. I think this might be the band that does the theme song for the show Misfits but I could be wrong. Good album, fun listen and energetic, would be great driving music.
Haven’t listened to a lot of post punk, very cool to hear the inspiration for more modern punk
Gang of Four is right up my alley....This is my Saturday get shit done around the house type of music. I was only 4 when this album came out and so I really missed this wave for the most part. at that time if it wasn't on MTV I didn't hear it. There were glimpses and whispers. Now in my late 40's I get it.
I really enjoyed this a lot especially the guitars. You can see how this band influenced so many others. It sounded like something I wish I heard more of today.
This was a pretty fun listen. The lyrics were interesting and the drums were great. Not sure if ever listen again but there was a lot more happening musically than a lot of punk rock from this time.
Classic English post punk, good album. Feels slgihtly directionless and less emotive than some of Gang of Four's other stuff. "Damaged goods" is my highlihgt. "at home he's a tourist" is jokes too.
Sharp catchy riffs, great bass lines, variety in beats and no bs songwriting. Really ahead of it’s time. Was gonna say it’s a bit long but the last three tracks in Spotify are bonus so minus those it’s really well paced. Maybe I’ll finally get into post-punk if more albums are as good as this one.
Was in the mood for this style of music and really enjoyed it.
Medrivende rock, Indflydelsesrigt, forud for sin tid, ligefrem
Lazy vocals aside, it's somewhat catchy
It took me a while to settle into this album, but I'm happy I stuck with it. Once I got used to the under-production then I could enjoy the songs, and some of them are pretty catchy little numbers. Eventually I ended up humming along, toe tapping, and being a little disappointed when it ended. This album is a nice bridge between the harsh 70s punk and what came along after.
Pretty cool album from a band I've never heard of. Post-punk? Punk-Funk?
Didn't like this at first - bit repetitive, not much for melodies - but won me over by Damaged Goods. Some cool stuttering drums and fun bass lines. I Found That Essence Rare was another highlight.
This was a shocking surprise.
Felt a lot like the minutemen which i should’ve given 3 stars
i enjoyed this. i can see how this would have been an influence and source of inspiration for future groups. at the time it was released i imagine it would have been amazing.
It’s ok, but it takes a lot for me to really enjoy a punk album and this didn’t quite get there. Favorite tracks: “Not Great Men,” and “Glass”
I know the name, never heard the music. Reminds me of Wire. Will listen again. I feel like I missed out.
And we’re back to our regularly scheduled programming. As the album cover suggests, there is a small portion of this album that is intriguing but the rest of it is just empty space. Not Great Men was a song I’ve heard before but can’t place where and I liked Damaged Goods but the rest of the album was completely forgettable. It feels like just another male British group. I won’t listen to this album again but I’m glad there were a few enjoyable tracks. I think the album title might be hyperbole.
Nice groove and vibe, also the sound is very destinctive
closer to a 2.5
Good to know. I hear newer bands being inspired by this album.
Pretty good. A little rough around the edges. Can definitely see how they influenced U2
Post-punk isn't really my type of game. But it was okay experiencing something new.
Wow that first track was a painful start, but I liked most of the other tracks more - just wish they didn’t have those parts where the rhythm and melody are both totally disregarded. I’m not a big punk fan, but I think they had some pretty cool intertwining of vocals and instrumentals that made it a fun listen.
It was decent, as far as rock goes, but it just felt... Generic. Plain. It didn't bring anything new to me.
These guys remind me a good bit of The Clash with the social commentary in many of the songs. I didn't feel like many of the songs stood out to me, but the album as a whole is enjoyable and you can feel its influence Saved: Natural's Not In It, 5.45
Fun to listen to, but not something I would actively seek out or revisit.
classic british post-punk album, had never heard it before actually, Damaged goods is the highlight for me (their most famous song I think too)
Trip hop. Like The Avalanches and Evanescence got together in the mid 90’s.
Strong riffs, but a bit samey
Primeiro disco totalmente desconhecido pra mim. Eu esperava algo dançante mas não essa espécie de punk disco com produção espartana. O índio da capa :(
Surprisingly raw and powerful!
I like the energy,but u have to say it got a bit tiresome before the album was over
I liked the song damaged good. It aged well!
Me sorprende mucho cómo pensaba que algunos sonidos eran "modernos", y ahora me encuentro con un album de 1979 que me suena muy familiar. De a momentos me suena como los antecesores de Franz Ferdinand sobre todo en temas como "Damaged Goods" 3/5 voy a volver a escuchar
An album that is named aptly. An older album that has old punk style but has instrumentals and the sound of modern alt albums. Better than expected and could see the influences in modern songs. 7.1/10
Thought the riff from the first track was familiar; turns out it was recently sampled for "the ground below" by Run the Jewels. Enjoyed the album at the start, but grew bored as time went on, was thinking this was going to be 4/5 after the first few tracks but it slipped a bit.
Didn't realised they did damaged good (havent heard in a while)
Fine I guess - another late 70s British “post-punk” band - they’re really starting to blur together.
Is a kind of funk in the punk album, filled with metallic dissonances. A Talking Heads mixed with Jimi Hendrix. (6/10) Favourite Songs: Damaged Goods
Really interesting that sometimes the guitar player would just make noise on some songs. Kept the album from being very straight forward. Nice guitar tones.
Influential to later punk rock
Enjoyed it, nothing earth shattering. Like Punk/The Jam
So so, cool tunes but not my kind of noise
Spiky jarring post-punk. Not an easy listen, but the influence on a lot of 2000s bands is clear.
Interesting punk album
Gave up after 4 tracks. Was okay.
Un album rock (punk rock) correct que je nai pas vu passer. Beaucoup de similitude dans leur chaonson 3*
Not bad, kinda entertaining hehe
A lot of fun to listen to, but not super grabby for me. Listened twice but can't remember any tune. Love the energy, though. And the cover art.
British punk. I've heard this genre several times now, and these guys do it pretty well. I like the new wave mixed in and the unusual instrument choices here and there. Better than Joy Division, less so than New Order. Not Great Men reminds me of a Talking Heads type sound, which I think they accomplish.
This was OK for punk; but really not my style.
I really didn't like it at first, but it did grow on me. I think it's a very catchy album, and I liked the instrumentation, but I'm not a fan of the type of singing. I recognize his talent, but it didn't feel harmonious or rhythmical to me, it just felt kind of like he was talking but with extra steps (I know that probably doesn't make sense). I didn't like how often some phrases and choruses were repeated, or how it seemed like they were really reaching for rhymes at certain points, either, since it made the lyrics feel childish and vapid at times despite them actually having a reasonably good amount of depth. Despite my complaints, I did enjoy listening to it, and tapped my feet along, so I can't really knock it below a 3, though it's more like a 2.6.
Leuk, maar niet echt speciaal
Du punk très correct. Pas autant impressionnant que ceux suggérés par le passé.
Didn't know what to expect. Wasn't expecting this. Certainly a new (at the time) way of recording music.
Obviously an influential piece of art, with many bands still today replicating this sound. However, few tracks really stand out and a lot tend to blend together. Decent album overall
An enjoyable minimalist punk record. Antiestablishment lyrics that are interesting and the instruments don't go overboard and get annoying. 6/10
I realized before listening that it was a British band I had vaguely heard of from the late 70s/early 80s, and it did not fill me with hope based on my previous experience with the 1001. But I was pleasantly surprised by Gang of Four. I mean, it's not exactly pleasant music. It is challenging and different, but that was good - it stood out. I should clarify that it was different from their contemporaries, but I do hear a lot of reflections of Gang of Four in 00s indie bands (Bloc Party came to mind a few times). A lot of times I don't understand the classifications that make for some rock sub-genres. Post-punk is one of them. But Gang of Four definitely felt post-punk. There were elements of 70s punk, but mixed with something new. I like what Gang of Four brought to the genre, and like how they seem to have influenced future bands. But... "Entertainment" was still a bit uneven for me. There was some four-star content, but it wasn't consistent enough. Its somewhere between 3.75-3.9, but can quite break through.
Ihan vekkulii settii. Perusbrittipunkin olosta seiskytluvulta, mut toimi mulle
Ihan hauskaa menoa ja levyn parhaat biisit oli hyviä. Kallistuu kolmoseen.
Varied and entertaining, will definitely listen to again.
Really liking this one
I can hear the influence a band like this has across many generations/decades of music, but it just wasn’t something I could totally vibe with. It wasn’t great, it wasn’t terrible, it just is. Good chance I’ll probably never revisit, but not upset I gave it a listen.
Early punk, like it
3-, first half was very much better, then it didn't slap that hard, not bad album after all
A Ramones feeling album that I didn’t mind. Nothing stands out except maybe Ether.
Not sure that I had ever heard this band before - but they're okay. Coming out in 1979 I can see how it would have hit a little different than some other stuff at the time. It seems like a nice little "bridge" from the 70s punk scene to the New Wave 80s. Also - I'm biased, but I love how they relied on the bassist to kinda drive everything.
A bit punky Late 70s. Must be one of the earliest punk style albums
This has a cool punk funk groove. The vocals aren’t great but I do think that it fits the vibe of the album overall
Good album. Nothing amazingly good but nothing bad. Right in the middle.
There's too much punk in this list of albums 😮💨
Fun punk album. Less aggressive than some of its contemporaries.
3.6 - The one word I’d use to describe this record would be “effective.” The instrumentation is spare. The guitar is punchy with non-stop riffs, sometimes dissonant and jagged. The vocals and lyrics are clear and the songs provide social and political commentary that’s easily discernible. This record would be spinning at an independent record store and I’d think to myself, “this sounds cool, I should ask the clerk what it is.” But then I’d forget to.
Eh, it's okay. Early songs are not doing it for me. Still okay.
a bit weird at times, but i dig some songs. might need another listen though
Good overall punk/post-punk album.
I really like this band despite not really being super into punk and generally finding it quite stressful. I hadn't heard of them before and I did find some of the tracks on this album fun! I didn't come out of listening super stressed and I could appreciate some of the elements. The singing voice actually isn't making me anxious and it's quite nice and nostalgic somehow. I'm pleasantly surprised but I wouldn't pick it out to listen to in future.
No lo recomiendo mucho
I liked it, cool vibes. Wasn't that impactful though, didn't leave me wanting more. It was fine and that's fine for today.
Ironic this album should be called 'Entertainment!' because it provided almost no entertainment value whatsoever. Okay, thats a little harsh. Repetitive and grating to start, this album got off on a bad foot, but I think it grew on me over time.
felt like expired canned goods.
Cool and edgy, sharp and angular, jagged and argumentative – this sounds exactly like politically engaged music should sound. One can hear its influence (even if one wonders whether the influencees are fully aware of the actual influencers.) It gets to feeling a little one-note after a time, but this is a band/record to know for sure, and a clear marker of a cultural moment. 3.2 for 3.
Umm...well...okay. It was fine. It didn't find it challenging to listen to...well, maybe I found the last track somewhat challenging. I also didn't find it life-changing in anyway. I am just going to leave this Gang of Four here.
Well, this certainly is a reasonable representative of its genre. It just isn't my genre. I did find a line in it that quite described how I felt listening to it: "How can I sit and eat my tea? With all that blood flowing from the television"
Nice sound and interesting enough but it’s too long
ok. didnt rock my world
Solid punk music.
I've a couple of these, I've from a cover done by one of my favourite bands. Decent enough 3/5, maybe a 4.
I was aware Gang of Four existed, but didn't know anything about them and had never listened to any of their stuff. Sounds like it was groundbreaking then - a little dated now. But I enjoyed listening to this - they have their own sound.
Gives me punk rock vibes and little bit of weezer. The guitar work is solid. Doesn’t really stick with me though. Maybe a couple more listens but I’ve started this album multiple times now and the second half kinda blends together besides love like anthrax. Fav tracks: ether, not great men Least fav: none
Pretty solid easy listening
Very good post-punk album, but unfortunately, nothing particularly hooked me up and it won't fit into my genre classics.
Doesnt feel that original now, but at the time I guess they were pioneer of the punk genre. Great album, but all songs felt a bit the same. I liked it, but I'm still really attached to others bands in Punk/Post-Punk.
Very punkish kind of post-punk. Very enjoyable, the bass lines are very good. All the songs sounds alike, but I liked the album nonetheless.
Beaucoup de stock intéressant ici. C’est comme un Talking Head plus irrévérencieux et moins talentueux. Le guitariste ... ... J’imagine que c’est lui qui joue l’Harmonium sur « It’s her factory »... « At Home He’s a tourist » est tout de même un classique du New Wave. J’irai probablement écouter le reste de ce que le band a produit.
A few good tracks but a lot of it sounds too similar
This was very good, refreshing. 3 stars.
Liked it. Can't remember any of it.
Zelfs bij 41 graden in de file was dit nog goed te doen!
I can see why it's significant even if it's not so much my thing!
Pretty good post punk/new wave album. Nothing stands out but I did like most of it.
Decent punk rock. I liked the lyrics and some of the grooves but personally I like punk to go a little harder and with more energy. Just a personally taste thing
It’s, it’s not terrible. And I liked a lot of it but man is it for a particular time and vibe that I’m just not into
Nice album. It looks like an essential album for the post-punk movement, but it's a little bit annoying sometimes due to the repetitiveness. Not perfect, enjoyable, and historically significant, so it deserves a 4-stars rate.
The lyrics remind me of Fugazi, but without the slogans
Never quite clicked for me. On a bit of a shit run.
Du rock anglais franchement pénible.
It was alright
Like a whiney Levelers with less dimension to their sound. Meh.
Not a fan of the type of mysic
Not my cup of tea.
Didn't like it.
Feels like i've herad 100's of variations of this album
Tiene algo pero la verdad es que no me llega a gustar
Unimpressed. Seemed like every chorus was just repeating the same phrase 4-5 times. The vocals were also kind of monotonous. I did like the song “I found that essence rare”.
Not much variety. A bit like The Clash, but not as good.
It was fine
I appreciate it in the context of the time period, but not much beyond that
Saved Prior: None Saved Off Rip: Ether, Damaged Goods, I Found That Essence Rare Cutting Edge: None Overall Notes: I was hopeful going into this, but it was kinda just noise. All kinda sounded the same, once you've heard the first 4 songs you've heard the whole album. Disappointed.
Casi no me ha llamado la atención.
Distinctive discordant guitar and disjointed rhythmns - it sounds like they're playing The Jam's News of the World backwards. The bastard children of The Buzzcocks and Devo. Occasionally interesting but mostly annoying.
Sounds like if you mixed the Specials and the Clash together. Mostly enjoyable but nothing really stood out on it.
Not great vocals or very insightful lyrics
The punk sound was there, but man I just cannot vibe with that discordant guitar
Post-punk The whole album sort of blurs together. Songs sound the same and nothing really stood out to me. 2.5/5
Just another typical 80’s vibe. Nothing special but it wasn’t grating.
Like the funk riffs and lead guitar Punk singing is shite A lot of the tunes sound similar
Otra banda de la que jamás había escuchado. Veo por la reseña del disco y la fecha en la que salió que fue un disco influyente. Lo siento como una mezcla de Sex Pistols con The Knak, como algo intermedio entre ambos. Interesante de escuchar, pero temo que no me atrapó.
Not a fan of this LP
Eh, another punk-ish album that really feels like it meanders all over the place, melodically and tempo-wise for no very good reason. I'm giving it 2 stars, but could be convinced it's not worth that much.
The instrumentation is not too bed and with a completely different vocalist and style of singing, this might have been a good album. But I just sort of hate all of the vocals on this album. From what I heard of the lyrics (didn't actively listen to them) it sounds like they're suuuper edgy.
Way way to Bri'ish for me. Like the clash but worse
Promising start sound-wise but they fell short of their potential.
Not a fan
Not good. Sounds like Captain Beefheart at times.
Not my cup of tea.
1st listen. Need to hear more of it. 2/5 for now.
Not for me. I guess this probably kicked of a genre but coming back to it feels like it has been done better since.
One of the many punk albums that has interesting riffs and a highly monotonous and ugly sound. Of course, that's the point of punk ,or post-punk, or whatever subgenre of punk /post-punk is this. Thats closing track though.
i actually got so triggered from this album i was really hoping it would be okay but the pitchy and guitar sounds made me so angry for no reason
2/21/22 It annoyed me. Had to skip through songs because the background noises were too annoying. Wasn’t the worst thing ever though, just wouldn’t listen to again. Favorite Song: Ether
Listened to on 2/21/22 2.5/5 Favorite Song: Damaged Goods The random noises were repetitive and annoying but overall not that bad
I appreciated the "funk rock", but the singing was lazy, repetative, and sounded like a bunch of Stones wannabes.
Lyrics are a bit clunky at times, not something I'd come back to listen to again but done well enough
Like Beck and the Beastie Boys had a British baby who played punk techno weddings and made up the lyrics to their songs on the spot. Didn't hate it.
I like the energy but nothing much else. Found it tough to get through.
not for me
Oh god it's more late 70s UK punk. At 600+ albums, this project ruins my morning almost every day. It's never anything good. Sometimes I wonder if the author's central goal here was to try and prove that the UK was just as cool as the US. But I'm not from either so I can judge fairly: UK music pisses me off 99% of the time, US only mildly annoys me. US wins. 2/5.
Aside from Damaged Goods I found this just annoying - not one for me.
The first three songs use the exact same rhythm and really blend together into one long song. By “Return the Gift” we start to hear some better diversity but in the very next track half way through we’re back to the exact same sound. Not enough diversity throughout the album. It became quite boring
Iets te eighties. Best leuke nummers, maar die manier van zingen ken ik nu wel.
Mjah, niet met veel aandacht geluisterd. Maar wat ik hoorde, was matig.
Aangezien ik 1 nummer van deze plaat al kende, begon ik vol goede moed, maar helaas was het toch niet heel spannend allemaal.
Ik vond het weinig entertaining op zo'n zomerse dag.
Never got into Brit punk, and while this wasn’t bad, it wasn’t my favorite. Maybe a song once in a while, but the album started to sound the same every song
not a fan
No es mi estilo. Vamos que no me ha gustado una mierda
Didn’t work for me
Noisy in a bad way. I'd rather listen to Devo. There is more melody and dorkiness there. I kind of suffered through this. I'm just not interested in taking a deeper dive after listening through this record. The guitars are really hard to handle. Sounds like a strat on the bridge pickup through a rat pedal. That should be against the law. HA. The bass holds it down though. Gotta hand it to that guy/gal.
This music is not for me. Sorry.
Disjointed jangling with no traces of actual songs or melodies.
Not for me.
pretty good. didn't love it but can see why it's important
Meh it was ok.