They Were Wrong, So We Drowned by Liars

They Were Wrong, So We Drowned

Liars

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They Were Wrong, So We Drowned is the second album by noise rock band Liars, released in 2004. The album is considered a massive departure from the post-punk-inspired style of their debut They Threw Us All in a Trench and Stuck a Monument on Top, exploring a more freeform, tribal sound. The album takes the form of a very loose concept album concerning witchcraft upon The Brocken (a mountain) during Walpurgis Night, and tales of witch trials in the area around the Harz Mountains in Germany. The recording coincided with the band's relocation from Williamsburg, Brooklyn to the woods of rural New Jersey, which also inspired the initial direction of the album. The focus upon the Brocken legends came when one of the band members mistakenly entered "Brocken Witch" into a search engine while researching the first song's title (called "Broken Witch" at the time). A screenshot of the music video for "We Fenced Other Gardens with the Bones of Our Own" resulted on the band's eponymous creepypasta. The album was included in the book 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die.

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The first 2 minutes were horrible but then I fell into a trance that I couldn’t get out of, the album is way better when your under the Liars control. 2.7

Oh boy. This was always intrigued me, because of how low rated this is. Along with the weird ass cover art, I'm excited. 01. Broken Witch Reminds me of the new Swans stuff. This is badass!!! Absolute banger! Such an awesome way to kick off the album. 02. Steam Rose From The Lifeless Cloak Pretty cool instrumental track. I wouldn't give it a heart, but I definitely wouldn't mind listening to it at all, either. 03. There's Always Room On The Broom That distortion is completely kick-ass. That hook is also SICK. 04. If You're A Wizard Then Why Do You Wear Glasses? Everywhere except Apple Music has improper grammar, with everywhere else having 'your' instead of 'you're'. Anyways, Quick and to the point. Really sick. Those drums are badass. 05. We Fenced Other Gardens With The Bones Of Our Own Really chant-like. Super cool. 06. They Don't Want Your Corn, They Want Your Kids Super weird, and super techno. Isn't my favorite, but definitely memorable. 07. Read The Book That Wrote Itself Feels like an intermission with how normal it is compared to the rest of the tracks so far. 08. Hold Hands And It Will Happen Anyway Got a nasty ass stank face when that guitar came in. Really fuckin' cool, the hook is badass. 09. They Took 14 For The Rest Of Our Lives The most "noisy" song so far. I love the minimal bass on this, and the lyrics are awesome!! 10. Flow My Tears The Spider Said Really sick first half, with a great atmospheric second half! This shit is fire. Absolute blast from beginning to end. It's not a perfect album, but damn it this is sick. It deserves the five.

Excellent

Interesting, and not as noisy as the genre suggested. Probably won't ever listen to them again though.

Way to many strange noises mixed in for me to enjoy this album. I frankly hated it from start to finish and wish for what feels like the last three hours back, which says something when the album only is 40 minutes long.

Bold. Trash noise. What the hell? I think you get more cohesive noise listening to a room a preschoolers.

Basically noise rock. Theres a lot of chanting type repetitiveness. It’s not awful, but I’m also not interested.

This feels like the type of album I would put on in my mom's Nissan Quest when I was 16 and trying to make my friends think I was cool while I drove them home from school. I actually do kind of like it though. "Noise rock" isn't really my favorite genre, but it feels like the noise here is intentional and not just noise for noise's sake. Liked the bird sounds at the end.

I like a lot of things about this honestly - the concept, the song titles, the artwork, the general spirit of it. The only thing I don’t like is the music.

This is one of the lowest rated albums on the generator, and it really shows that some people are scared of interesting music. For comparison, Rumours by Fleetwood Mac is the highest rated, while Rumours is phenomenal, and likely a 5-star album, it's safe and Pop-py. It doesn't have the same effect that an album like this has. In my opinion, this is of equal quality to the albums in the highest-rated, purely for the unique sound. While Noise Rock and experimentation is nothing new, this album shows it in such a raw way, that I find it hard to see how some people don't love it. I get that tracks like 'Read The Book That Wrote Itself' are a bit tiring, but much of this album is purely brilliant Experimental songs! The joint lowest-rated song (At the time of writing!) is 'If Your A Wizard Then Why Do You Wear Glasses?', which was an album highlight for me! I can definitely see the struggle some people could have with this album, but come on, it's fantastic!

The first song was so annoying i didn't have interest in further songs

This made no impact on me at all

I feel like i just got fucking hazed

I was into Drum's Not Dead back in the day, but I don't remember listening to this preceding album before. Interesting record, but I don't think I’ll feel the need to listen to it again.

The more I listened, the less I liked it.

One of the worst things I’ve ever heard

Saai, vreemd, rommelig, schreeuwerig en soms rap. *

This was total garbage! I got no enjoyment from any of these songs. Honestly the whole thing just kind of bored me. Felt longer than 40 minutes. ⭐️

I don’t really understand the appeal of noise rock. Is experimental worth listening to, or is it just worth thinking about? I feel like some experiments create interesting results. This mostly just feels… well, noisy. I think I liked it more than I would have because I listened on Halloween. Definitely would suit a spooky soundscape. But I’m not really sure I “get” it.

Some of the production was kinda cool but the lyrics and their delivery was just...not fun. Not my sort of vibe.

Yeah, well, I didn't like this one at all. I'm not in the best mood right now and this one made it even worse. It's not about the excitementalism of the music. Not afraid of experimental music at all. But this one isn't existing or well executed by any mean. The only song I had something of an affection to was the second one. And even this one wasn't good enough. An I album I won't come back to luckily.

I'm not sure if its the music or the mood I'm in but I'm not feeling it. The songs have the distorted sound that you would hear in rock songs before they break into the actual song but it keeps going on this album. If I could describe the sound of the album, its taking 2 walkie talkies and bringing them close together so you so much feedback and then add drums to it. If I had to defne it, I would call it Graveyard Techno Grunge. Like if you heard that a group of kids in your highschool would play music at a graveyard at night, it would be this. Difficult to pick the best songs on the album but I would go with Flow My Tears The Spider Said because it doesn't have much going on

En 2002, avec They Threw Us All in a Trench and Stuck a Monument on Top, Angus Andrew et sa bande régnaient sur la hype de Brooklyn. C’était l’époque bénie du dance-punk, des costards étriqués et des rythmiques funk décharnées. Le public sautillait gentiment avec les Yeah Yeah Yeahs et The Rapture, attendant bien sagement la suite du festin. Sauf que Liars en avait strictement rien à foutre d'être le groupe cool de l'année, et au lieu de capitaliser sur la recette et d’encaisser les chèques, ils ont fait leurs valises, quitté le bitume new-yorkais et ils sont partis s'enfermer au fin fond d'une forêt allemande, près de Düsseldorf. L’objectif ? Ne surtout pas vous faire danser, mais plutôt vous traîner de force dans une clairière boueuse en plein hiver pour une messe noire hallucinée sur fond de chasses aux sorcières du XVIe siècle dans les montagnes du Harz. Le résultat ne se contente pas d'être déroutant, Liars a tout simplement décidé de commettre un suicide commercial afin de signer le chef-d’œuvre le plus terrifiant et radical de sa décennie. Quand ce disque débarque dans les bacs en février 2004 chez Mute, la presse bourgeoise et la moitié des fans de la première heure ont manqué de s'étouffer. "Inaudible", "prétentieux", "brouillon", "un désastre sans queue ni tête". La vérité, c’est que la plupart de ces pisse-froid n'avaient tout simplement pas le bide pour encaisser un tel rouleau compresseur sonique, car They Were Wrong, So We Drowned n'est pas un album qui se picore gentiment d'une oreille distraite, c'est un monolithe hostile, un rituel païen suintant d'angoisse et de bruit blanc. C'est l'anti-pop par excellence, et c’est précisément pour ça que c'est un putain de 5 sur 5, c'est un sans-faute d'arrogance, de courage et de pure folie primitive. Dès les premières secondes, le groupe dynamite méthodiquement tout ce qui faisait son identité d’antan pour bâtir un champ de ruines où s'entrechoquent noise rock, expérimentations et krautrock. Oubliez les guitares sautillantes et les refrains taillés pour les clubs de Williamsburg, car ici la basse est un grondement sismique qui menace de défoncer vos enceintes à chaque mesure, tandis que la batterie de Julian Gross ressemble moins à une section rythmique de rock qu’à une parade de tambours de guerre exécutée par des illuminés sous champignons hallucinogènes. La référence au krautrock n’est d’ailleurs pas qu’un artifice de journaliste paresseux. On sent dans ces boucles rythmiques obsédantes, répétitives et claustrophobes, l’héritage bâtard et vicié de Can, Faust ou des premiers méfaits de Neu!, mais passé à la moulinette d'un nihilisme no-wave new-yorkais digne des pires cauchemars de Swans. Les structures explosent, les dynamiques se distordent et le groove se fait tribal, presque carnassier. Ce n'est plus de la musique pour bouger les fesses, c'est une transe hypnotique, une transe qui vous broie et vous laisse à genoux sur un lit de cendres. Et au milieu de ce marasme de larsens et de percussions martelées jusqu'à la rupture, il y a la voix d’Angus Andrew. Il marmonne, gémit, scande des litanies incantatoires avant de pousser des hurlements stridents à vous glacer le sang. Ses textes, hantés par la superstition, la peur de l'inconnu, la persécution des sorcières et la paranoïa collective, collent un véritable malaise. On ne comprend pas toujours où se termine la performance théâtrale et où commence la vraie démence de mecs isolés dans les bois qui ont fini par péter un plomb avec leurs machines. En refusant la facilité, Liars a signé ce qui est à ce jour l'un des disques les plus intraitables, les plus courageux et les plus viscéraux des années 2000. Deux décennies plus tard, la plupart des disques de dance-punk de l'époque sonnent comme de vieilles publicités périmées pour des fringues vintage, mais They Were Wrong, So We Drowned n’a pas pris une seule ride : il est toujours aussi venimeux, abrasif et profondément terrifiant. Une déflagration totale qui prouve que le véritable rock expérimental n'a de sens que lorsqu'il accepte de vous jeter dans le vide sans parachute. Une claque magistrale et monumentale.

i enjoyed this more than i thought i would. a nice slice of early 2000's indie. that said, the inclusion on this list is puzzling

wtf is this shit.

the closer attention you pay, the better it is

Jesus fuckin christ this list is starting to make me question if music is even worth paying attention to anymore.

Better than Coldplay

This was too aggressive for the mood I was in, I was already irritated and late and this just made it worse. Not uninteresting but not for me (and certainly not for me that day).

2.0 So there was the Canadian show called cock'd gunnz (that I cannot recommend enough, hilarious). in one of the episodes there was a band playing a hipster art show and the band was called "fags in wheelchairs" and this album was pretty much what that fictional band was playing. check the show out if you can. I didn't hate the album. kinda Fausty in spots, modern krautrock

Completely different to anything else on the list so far, and for that I commend it! Would I listen again, nope! But I still enjoyed listening after just enduring Springsteen and Aerosmith.

my ears! my ears! if you like listening to the modem connect this one is for you! if not, give it a miss!

I dod not initially like this album. Toward the end it grew in me a bit, but generally it was not my thing. I may listen to it again but it aroused feelings of dislike for most of its duration so id have to be in an exploratory mood.

Favorite Song: Hold Hand And It Will Happen Anyway Least Favorite: If You’re A Wizard Then Why Do You Wear Glasses?

Experimental noise, where the experimentation isnt that progressive and the noise isn't that noisy. Struggle to see what this has influenced.

QUEST’ALBUM NON HA CANZONI MA PEZZI DI MUSICA. HA UNA SUA FORTE PERSONALITÀ. NON LO ASCOLTEREI DI NUOVO. 2/5

Absolutamente todo sobre este album es un espanto, desde los instrumentales sin sentido, los recursos auditivos (el ruidito de persona escribiendo sobre papel me volvia loca), las letras de re mierda, y asi podria seguir. Que horror empezar con esto el dia 0/10

I want to like it but that's not enough.

I would’ve loved this if I’d heard it around the time it came out. I was in my twenties and thought music like this was sacred. These days, I’m old, and I find it irritating as hell.

Nothing to see here. Tedious and unnecessary.

Yeah, this was different. I guess it was interesting, but I will in all likelihood never listen to this again.

I felt like this was a pretty cool, strange record that dives into some spooky, avant-garde sounds, such as on the opener, and then later blends them with the bands more typical dance production to create some fun, unique tracks. It is hit-or-miss however, as some moments can become a bit of a hopeless loop or come off more grating than interesting. I enjoyed hearing this group push themselves beyond there comfort zone, despite the mixed results. 1 listen Favorite Tracks: There's Always Room On The Broom; Broken Witch; They Don't Want Your Corn, They Want Your Kids

I do not imagine that this has mass appeal. I'm sure that there is a subset that enjoys this, myself excluded.

horrible

Heavy stuff

At first I thought this was annoying but then I got into it.

2004 Noise rock

I love this album and feel it is a perfect representation of a certain kind of noise rock from 00's that still stands up today. It has experimentation and noise while still being rhythmic and accessible to anyone that will open their minds and ears to something new and something made to push people's expectations.

Ouch! So bad I only made it through the first 3 songs!

this is sick. need to relisten more and maybe my rating will change - not sure how well the concept works to justify listening to noise rock (personally), but in theory i like it

Wont be returning

Well, here it is. My first experimental rock album. Technically I've heard Swans' "Soundtracks for the Blind," but technically I skipped through it after the first few tracks because I thought it was so abysmal. Anyways, this one I actually DID sit through. Mainly because it's not 2-and-a-half hours. But this isn't a review of "Soundtracks for the Blind." There are some really cool ideas and moments on this album. I love the glitchy drum loops in "Broken Witch" and "They Took 14 for the Rest of Our Lives." I love the plucky synth on "They Don't Want Your Corn, They Want Your Kids," and I like almost the entirety of "We Fenced Other Gardens With the Bones of Our Own." But these cool ideas are buried under a junkyard full of barbed wire and lithium batteries. A lot of this album sounds like either sticking my head in a particle accelerator or standing next to a jet engine. The vocals are fine, but I don't really like how monotonous they are. The lyrics I'm sure mean something, but I'm not smart enough to figure it out. Don't listen to this unless you already like experimental rock. Personally, I'll stick with my sunshine pop. ----- #0025 Heard on: 15 Oct. 2026 Rating: ★☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆ (338 / 345) Favorite track: We Fenced Other Gardens With the Bones of Our Own Least favorite track: If You're a Wizard Then Why Do You Wear Glasses?

Well, this definitely wasn't in the "music I like" category, but it did turn out to be "music I'll listen to once and not gripe too much about," which greatly surprised me. Normally, I'd skip a track after hearing about 30 seconds of what this album sounds like. I'm not exactly sure what held my attention for the whole album. Mostly unlikeable, but interesting in a sort of "modern art" kind of way ⭐⭐.49

lol this was a fun album, i really liked it. perfect for spooky month too with all the witchy themes 🧹 glad to have finally gotten a noisy album on this list, as someone who likes that kinda stuff. i think one of my favorite parts was that super messed up noisy riff on the 3rd track i think? awesome. i also liked the atmospheric parts too, they felt really cozy.

First listen

The first song not really my favorite The second is just noise,no lyrics Fifth song was okay And the rest... I'm into "sound pollution" type of songs,chaotic and such,but I'm not feeling this album

Below the rating box there is always the option to select DID NOT LISTEN. In the case of this album this is bloody good advice. 1/5 12/10/26

Not very easy on the ear. Hard to listen too

I've been revisiting a lot of early 00s NYC rock bands lately, so if this came up again at random, I might be less open to it. The movement's raw energy is gripping, and a noisy, confrontational art-rock trio fits right in. However, this wasn't my favorite listen. "They Don't Want Your Corn…" reminded me how much more I enjoyed them on their previous album, "They Threw Us All In a Trench and Stuck a Monument On Top", which is still noisy and confrontational, but also dares you not to dance. That album ends with a 30-minute descent into tone, but the tone is rhythmic, so it still captivates. Without a danceable rhythm section, I mostly got exhausted by the end of "They Were Wrong, So We Drowned." Four stars for "They Threw Us All in a Trench…" though; check that one out.

Like I see how this could be hip but it’s just noise

1 - TERRIBLE

What if you crossed Radiohead with LCD Soundsystem, but took away most of their talent and made them boring? You get this. No one can convince me that this belongs on the 1001 albums list. I'd probably give it a 1.5, but in this case I'm rounding down.

Husket den som bedre.

some of these songs are genuinely very interesting and fun to listen to but its mostly just pretentious and annoying

mer intressant än mycket andra tråkiga album på denna lista

Svårlyssnat på ett faktiskt inte så angenämt sätt

Tråkigt, dåligt ljud, kanske lite coolt men jag vet inte. Kommer knappt ihåg något av låtarna

Bara konstigt

This music made me feel genuinely unsafe! Blasting the first two tracks on a good speaker really made my home feel like an alien, terrifying place, that's a great accomplishment. If you can actually unsettle me you must be doing something right, 4 stars!

Look, I get what we're trying to do here, but it is very much Not for Me, Thanks.

I liked the style and the uniqueness. Started strong, but it never branched off from there and seemed a bit one note. probably a 3.5

I realized I was listening to something unique and became excited. Alas, this went away as the novelty faded. I’ll not return to this one.

Don't do drugs, kids

Overall: 7/10 Infinitely more interesting than more than half of the albums in this list. I wouldn't say it's something I plan on coming back to often, but there's a lot to like here. If you don't want to challenge yourself with new types of music then why are you even here??? Fav Song: There's Always Room on the Broom

Garbage…

So I heard the noise part and waited for the rock part. It never came.

Trop stylé

Okay this was bad. I’m normally the electronic soundscape defender, but this is awful. Noise rock bullshit over pretentious lyrics, slipping out of the ear as soon as listening to; just dreadful. A waste of my time and a waste of perfectly good notes.

I thought I was really going to like this when I showed up. I didn’t. Wannabe animal collective but not really as talented and more chaotic

Weird, but I’m not mad about it!

What is this supposed to be? This isn't music; at best, it's just a string of notes. Noise rock. I live near the Brocken—the mountain of the Germans. That’s where the legends and myths of witches come from. But we don't have nonsense like this here. Usually, Walpurgis Night features medieval sounds—sometimes wild, with drums and bagpipes. But never such slapstick! Only Americans could come up with something like that. Stuff like this doesn't belong on this list. Scum.

Big miss from the author. I am actively dumber after this album.

Just bad. This the kinda album people feel smarter or more cultured than everyone for pretending to like.

I dug the first and last tracks, but beyond that it was rather noisy and repetitive, even for someone who listens to a lot of noisy and repetitive music. Dig that they used themes of Walpurgisnacht!

It's not unlistenable, but it is a lot of nonsense. I appreciate this project in opening up pathways to a lot of different kinds of music. But how this made it on my list before a John Coltrane album even shows up is unconscionable.

A good noise rock album. It won't ever be my favorite album by a long shot but there are some groovy tunes and some others that are funny. So I'd rather listen to such a release than to yet another nu metal album. 3.5 rating up Favorite Songs: There's Always Room on the Broom ; We Fenced Other Gardens With the Bones or Our Own ; They Don't Want Your Corn - They Want Your Kids ; Hold Hands and It Will Happen Anyway

Starts great with Broken Witch and I like a lot of their ideas, but the album loses steam and I lose interest as or goes on

Abrasive, kind of annoying. First track grew on me, I guess?

It’s not that this material is too challenging, it’s that it’s too boring and wayyyy too non-consequential — both in its substance and in its greater place (or lack thereof) in a “you need to listen to this album” zeitgeist. You do not need to listen to this album at all, and I am now stuck between giving this thing a respectful 2/5 on the principle of how unique-sounding it is, and booming it to the moon with a 1/5 for being such an odd, dull, unimportant pick to add to this list. The last song was really redeeming. Softer and much more fun than the rest of the album. 2/5 the horrors persist but so do I

Art house experimental noise that is always seeking a melody that is often never found.

I have their previous and following album. I like those both. This is fine, of its time. Plenty of other albums I would have picked instead of it but deserves a higher score. 3.5 rounded up Heard before? Some Owned: No, 108/424 (25%) Will I get:

Frankly, in 2026, I have all of the anxiety I can handle from computer-engineers and their machines; don’t need it coming in my ear holes as well.

Just noise