Meat Is Murder is the second studio album by English rock band the Smiths, released on 11 February 1985 by Rough Trade Records. It became the band's only studio album to reach number one on the UK Albums Chart, and stayed on the chart for 13 weeks. The album was an international success: it spent 11 weeks in the European Top 100 Albums chart, peaking at number 29. It also reached number 110 on the US Billboard 200, in the United States.Wikipedia
Luckily this album was recorded before we knew Morrissey was A Bad Man. In 1985 he was merely a pompous man with a compelling turn of phrase quite unlike anything that’s cropped up in music before or since. No-one sings about bottoms quite like your man Stephen Morrissey. And yet, the star of The Smiths’ music always has and will be Johnny Marr’s arrangements. The glistening, shimmering, bright counterpoint to Morrissey’s turgid melancholy. The tension between woe and glory as Marr and Morrissey tussle for supremacy is what they are all about. And Marr wins, every time.
In my life I haven't so much as knowingly listened to a Smiths song, let alone an album--a blind spot I've long been keen to eliminate. So this was an exciting task. But also a bittersweet one, as I knew I would be forced to adjudicate on that grey area between not only the album's objective quality and my subjective enjoyment of it but the band's. One listen of one album is no way to do that. And yet there I was yesterday evening, a pawn in this cruel game, my hand forced to commit crimes against music I'd never dreamt of. Reservations and objections aside, I diligently discharged my duty. Here is my meagre judgement: It Was Quite Good. Morrisey's affectedly self-absorbed vocals dancing widdershins around Marr's dexterous guitar lines, ostensibly independent of each other but really in some kind of synch, is immediately arresting. As is the rhythm, is more energetic than I expected. Less so Morrisey's fey digressions and whimpers--clearly there's lots to hear but not much stood out (ON ONE SINGLE SOLITARY SOLE LISTEN, I HASTEN TO ADD). This unusual combination evidently coheres, yet I'm going to be conservative (though fascist may be more appropriate here) because a) my interest was piqued only in short bursts, and b) from this evidence of the band's talent, plus one or two things I’ve heard elsewhere, I suspect they made much better albums than this. And I want to reserve my extra stars for those should they pop up and prove my suspicions correct. And if I start too high--giving this a 3, for example--and then like the next one more, I'll be compelled to give it a 4. But what if I don't think the next one’s a 4? More of a 3. But it’s only by listening to the second album that I realise I've overrated the first. I'll be ensnared in a cycle of overrating The Smiths, which seems both unfair on me and them. Life is hard. And yes, meat is indeed murder.
Mozz and Marr decided to give poor Andy some free reign as a joke, but the resulting album was so powerful they had to make The Queen Is Dead to punish anyone who liked it. Suck my nuts indieheads- this is the real (gay) man's Smiths album
Morrisey sounds like he is singing in the shower, didn't really like it.
That's fucking punk right there
Great guitar, niche vocals. I like it a lot, full of bangers, That Joke, What She Said, Barbarism, and only 9 songs long. Maybe my favourite Smith's album.
The title track is dour, but the rest of this album is fantastic, musically brilliant, adventurous and generally just really catchy with its overt pop and funk influences and some of Morrisey’s sharpest lyrics (even if he is an insufferable cunt). Now excuse me while I enjoy eating this steak.
Glad I read everyones' reviews before writing mine because I also had the line "Morrissey is an insufferable prick" written in my notes. So I'll just say he's an asshole, but I do love his music. The Smiths developed such a cool sound that so many other bands tried to bite but could never really pull off because Morrissey has such a distinct crooning vocal sound. Baritone I think? Been awhile since my choir days. Anyway, those guitars really drive these songs! Morrissey always sounds so morose but then those guitars come in and sound all upbeat and rollicking and boom theres another great Smiths song. I know its a joke that the Smiths are sadboys to the extreme (I counted and there's only 1 song's lyrics that doesn't explicitly use the word die, dying, or talk about death) but Morrissey's forlorn pining for love and purpose strikes a chord with most everyone, which makes for relatable jams. I know there's vegetarians in this group and I'm knocking vegetarianism but man was he being way melodramatic with that "Meat is Murder" track. "..the unholy stench of murder....you savor the flavor of murder," with cows mooing in the back! C'mon Morrissey. Still though a pretty great album and I will begrudgingly give Morrissey props.
As much as I've heard this album (on account of my husband plays it sometimes), you'd think I'd be able to tell the songs apart. Other than The Headmaster Ritual and the title track (on account of its farm noises), I really can't. I would never choose it but I don't mind it.
I like the smiths alright and this was one of their biggest albums but I can't really get into this one as much. It's weird cause I like the album before this one and the album after this one much more. I'd bet that the latter one, "the queen is dead" is on this 1001 list too. "Well I wonder" is probably my favorite track on the album. Morrissey gets all the glory but Johnny Marr is severely underrated in the US. Moody brooding.
With their second proper album Meat Is Murder, the Smiths begin to branch out and diversify, while refining the jangling guitar pop of their debut. In other words, it catches the group at a crossroads, unsure quite how to proceed. Taking the epic, layered "How Soon Is Now?" as a starting point (the single, which is darker and more dance-oriented than the remainder of the album, was haphazardly inserted into the middle of the album for its American release), the group crafts more sweeping, mid-tempo numbers, whether it's the melancholy "That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore" or the failed, self-absorbed protest of the title track. While the production is more detailed than before, the Smiths are at their best when they stick to their strengths -- "The Headmaster Ritual" and "I Want the One I Can't Have" are fine elaborations of the formula they laid out on the debut, while "Rusholme Ruffians" is an infectious stab at rockabilly. However, the rest of Meat Is Murder is muddled, repeating lyrical and musical ideas of before without significantly expanding them or offering enough hooks or melodies to make it the equal of The Smiths or Hatful of Hollow.
J'avais failli oublier que Morsay était le chanteur des Smiths avant d'ouvrir sa boutique de prêt-à-porter à Clignancourt. L'album est sympatoche mais le rock des années 80 commence un peu à me taper sur les nerfs si tu vois ce que veux dire Robert...
Johnny Marr is one of my top-three underrated guitarists. I can't stand Morrisey.
What more can you wish for Marr's guitar, Morrissey's lyrics and then the ruin it by letting Morrissey sing.
Man, it is such a shame about the severe back problems Andy Rourke developed from carrying The Smiths all those years.
A little bit of Morrissey goes a _LONG_ way.
Struggled to get through this. Some Smiths songs are alright, but this seems to be an unfocussed mess to me. Not even sure if Morissey is working on the same tunes as the band. But I guess this meandering of melody and tempo is what draws people to it. Definitely not me though.
I'm not sure why this album makes me so cross. Maybe I'm disappointed that I missed out on something because I don't, "get it". Anyway, it's wrong and I'm right. NAA.
The Headmaster's Ritual is 🥵
Really good album that seemed way before it's time
man, what can i say about this album that I dislike.......there's not much. The Smiths is one of my top 10 bands of all time, due to their amazing sound, lyrics, and importance of the time and the reach their influence had, even changing people's views on food! This album was also my introduction to Morrisey and that world of music, and it definitely helped shape my taste in music and what i considered to be good music. I mean there are so many good tracks on this album "Nowhere Fast", "What She Said" are amazing, but the entire album is damn near perfect.
Esse sim é meu tipo de música!
The bass on this is killer. great tone. I never knew that Morissey was my defacto english new wave vocalist. Yea holy cow the bass work is awesome. i like how the album shifts dynamically and it doesn't fail to grab me.
No second album syndrome here. Marr’s guitar and Morrissey’s lyrics and voice combine to offer a uniquely recognisable blend of melancholy angst and musicality that is still a joy to listen to
WT - really enjoyed the music interesting how much random nature sounds are featured. Rain ect
I dropped everything and listened to this. I'm sorry I just love The Smiths. The queen season 4 has better prepared me for the Thatcher references. Clearly #9 was Doja Cat's inspiration for MOOO!
сразу стоит оговориться, что между зэ смитс и зэ кьюр я всегда выбирал зэ смитс, и предложенный альбом на данный моментъ прослушан такое количество раз, что адекватно оценить его уже не получится. но с другой стороны могу понять и негатив, ибо сам, помню, ещё в школе пытался данный альбом слушать и весьма желчно отплёвывался потом, так как душа просила митола и ганста репа. но чем старше становился — тем более проникался группой зэ смиты как явлением — фигурой моррисси, его надменным юмором, гитарной работой джонни марра, тугими и хлестикими басовыми рифами этого. ну, их басиста, короче. И на данный момент этот альбом вижу как один из столпов, на котором впоследствии будет держаться большой кусок более современной и привычной нам музыки, будь то рурок, постпанк, индюшатина и прочее непотребство. Лучше бы не держалось, ну да ладно. Непосредственно из претензий могу дать щелбана только песне Rusholme Ruffians, ибо даже меня она начинает душить под конец своей предсказуемостью и отсутствием интересных фишек. Лучше бы выкинуть её вообще нахой или двинуть во вторую часть альбома. А в остальном — очень крепкий, местами боевой, местами меланхоличный релиз под дождливую погоду и ночные прогулки по ярославским брайтан-бич. Кавер на песню «Перемен» группы Кино я бы вообще включил в десятку любимых песен эвер. 5/5
I really enjoyed the ambiance of this album. The title track is so moody, I love it, and it's a great way to end the album.
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One of the new Smiths albums I never bought. But this is a classic Smiths sounding album.
My third favourite Smiths album, but still a 5. Was gonna go 4 before listening but the guitar work and lyrics alone make it a 5/5.
9 bombazos de canciones. Un disco imprescindible para mí, en la música que oía en el instituto y en todo lo que vino después. La música que me hizo estudiar inglés por mi cuenta a pesar de que en mi colegio aún andábamos con el francés como lengua extranjera. Icónica portada, icónicas letras, mágica la guitarra de Johnny Marr e hipnótica voz de Morrissey. Ninguna de sus canciones está entre las 10 más escuchadas de The Smiths pero os aseguro que merecen todas la pena. 5 estrellas.
Barbarism at home is like Кино meets the Killers.
Второй студийный альбом The Smith. Вокал Моррисси, треки How Soon Is Now?, Well I Wonder.
Weirdly, never listened to this before. Should have.
I am an unapologetic Smiths fan and love this album. I've probably listened to it end-to-end over a dozen times and was happy to do it again. Some of the best bass work and hooks in their oeuvre on this one.
My original introduction to the Smiths in 1985. Morrissey and Johnny Marr are amazing. They don't sounds like anybody else and I've always been intrigued by how Morrissey fits such complex lyrics into the music. Fantastic... even the buzzsaws.
Absolute classic, what I hate about Morrissey is how great the Smith's stuff is. Truly remarkable music and lyrics takes you somewhere else,somewhere fragile, beautiful and dangerous. Just a shame it was created by an absolute twat.
Punchy hits and incredible compositions, the Smiths at their very best. Marr’s guitar layers over Rourke’s and Joyce’s rhythms create such a fantastic counterpoint to Morrissey’s dark and bleak lyrics. A perfect Smiths album Top tracks: The Headmaster Ritual, I want the one I can’t have, Barbarism begins at home, Meat is Murder
Though a bit heavy handed at times, Meat is Murder is a classic album. Johnny Marr’s clean jangly guitar and Morrissey’s vocals and unique melodies come together seamlessly to create some of the most identifiable music of the post punk/new wave era. This is not my favorite Smiths album, but it is still top notch.
One of the best albums of the 80s and this is even without some of their strongest songs from that period that were only released on single!
My top Spotify artist of 2021, fuck yeah! I can’t get enough of The Smiths. The emotional, social, political intensity of the lyrics with the one-of-a-kind catchy jangly Marr guitar work is a heady and addictive pairing. It’s a killer combo for me every time.
Haven't listened to this in one sitting for decades. Still an excellent whole of an Album.
The first number was already sounding really good, this gave me hope for the rest of the album. It kinda reminded me of a mix between The Dire Straits and David Bowie. Halfway through the album it still sounds great. A bit of 60/70's rock is something I can really appreciate.
Whenever I come across the album and its title, I feel bad because I'm complicit in the death of these succulent creatures. The music, however, doesn't make me feel so bad. This is quite great from front to back, no filler. When the album features songs like The Headmaster's Ritual, This Joke Isn't Funny Anymore and Barbarism Begins at Home, there is no point in feeling that there's a wrong. Everything's just right here.
Cool album! First time listening to the Smiths. Actually have nothing bad to say.
A personal classic, Meat is Murder is a study-work companion since graduation. I enjoyed the opportunity to revisit this album and listened during my thesis research. Still a favorite!
Mein liebstes Smiths Album. Weiß gar nicht was ich da groß zu sagen muss. Meine fav Tracks hier drauf sind: The Headmaster Ritual, I Want the One I Can't Have, That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore, Well I Wonder und Meat is Murder für die geilen animal sounds!! Grüße meine Mama von der ich die Platte geklaut habe die sie mit 20 gekauft hat
Probably the most raw Smiths albums, both lyrically as musically. It's a bit harder and a bit more serious than other albums (even though there's still enough humour to be found) The speedy funky basslines on this album in combination with Marr's incredible guitar-work really get a lot more swing going than on other albums. And Morrissey has things to say about hitting children ("Barbarism Begins At Home"), eating meat ("Meat Is Murder"), Depression ("That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore") Homosexuality and also unrequited love in the absolutely beautiful "Well I Wonder". "Gasping - dying - but somehow still alive this is the final stand of all I am Please keep me in mind" An absolute 5* amazing album, front to finish. Even the lesser songs are top.
amazing album, 10/10 you gotta love The Smiths
I don't think that there's anything bad you can say about The Smiths. Unless you are a bad person.
The best "flat pitch" singing in the business. I love this band. This isn't my favorite album by them, but it contains their two best songs: That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore, and How Soon Is Now.
A top-five of all time for me, the soundtrack of my middle school years. This has all of the best songs, and stylistically it’s the most diverse of all their albums.
My preferred Smiths album. I don’t even dislike the title track that much, though it’s still a miss in terms of pacing
Faking smithsi i faking vegetarijanci.
Chock full of a tasty blend of malaise and melancholy
With the exception of the title track, every song on this is excellent
I remember how thrilling this album was when it first came out, just before I graduated from university. It seems to explode out of the blocks with The Headmaster Ritual and never lets up. Wonderful.
sad bitch sustenance.
Hey Morrissey SHACK eats lamb chops, what ya gonna do about it?
It's everything I like about The Smiths. Great stuff. Fave track - "How Soon is Now?", if that's allowed. Probably my favourite song of theirs over all. "Meat is Murder" if we're picking from the original tracklist...
I heard JPEGMafia loved Morrissey so much that he wrote a fan song about him. He seems like a really pleasant vegetarian who must really get along with immigrants to the UK.
there’s absolutely an element of nostalgia going into this review (my mom loves the smiths), but i really enjoyed this. morrissey is morrissey, but johnny marr has some amazing work on this album. every song sounds similar, but they all sound great so i’m fine with it. the meat is murder track is wild, super into it.
Yesterday, Viva Hate, today my favourite Smiths album. Title track is a dirge but everything else is sparkling and wonderful. Favourite song: Nowhere Fast. Really should learn how to play it.
Fluid guitar play, beautiful melody. Like the "Well I Wonder".
Not their best, but as every Smiths album easily 5 stars for this one.
Morrissey is an ass but man is this a great album. I'm jokingly calling it "the godfather of Emo". Love Johnny Marr's guitar playing, never takes center stage but always creating an atmosphere that is distinctly his. Favorite tracks: "I Want the One I Can't Have", "That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore"
Is Smiths, what do you expect? Got some Morrissey chanting in your ears, and the shoegaze rock and roll of the band, what's not to like.
Cool calm rock
Good album. Enjoyed Marr’s guitar playing a lot throughout the album. I really like and hate Morrissey’s voice at the same time. I like it on its own, but I feel like it kinda sounds the same in each song, although maybe I wasn’t listening closely enough. Wish Morrissey was a better person, I really think he could’ve been if it wasn’t for his massive ego. I think that seeps into the lyrics more than I’d like. Still a good album and would listen to again.
moz > jesus
Kind of a low-key Smiths album. Not quite on the same level as my favorites- Queen is Dead, Strangeways, and Louder Than Bombs. I do love the title track, despite being a carnivore. I think it’s a sincere expression of a deeply held belief.
Title track is annoying, but overall album is good.
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Awesome bass lines, great guitar riffs. Pompous lyrics. Good album, worth another listen
Good album, easy to lose yourself in
Love the feel of this, even if the message is off.
Great easy listening, and some absolute classics! Glad to have listened to this.
This album is depressing. Even looking at the track list it feels downtrodden. Not to say it isn't good, as I do think this is a good album. I've heard singles here and there from the Smiths, it wasn't something that grabbed me but hearing songs like "That joke isn't funny anymore" and "Nowhere Fast", will bring more of their music into my rotation.The instrumentals in this are far more upbeat than the lyrics. which gives it a great quality, it saddens me and gives me hope at the same time. Really good album.
The songs are so friendly and approachable, then the lyrics bite at you. Really classic sounding, doesn't necessarily sound like an "80's album" which I tend to appreciate.
I liked this one. It was pretty good background noise and nothing really annoying in it.
Really good! Melodic vocals. Great example of early English post-punk.
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I came in heavily biased because so many cool bands, (and bands that think they're cool) cite the smiths as an influence and I sort of rolled my eyes at the hipster cred of it. I'll be honest though, I really dug the album! I've heard so many mediocre attempts to create a sound like this from bands that came after, but this all really worked for me. Not something I'd seek often, but delighted to listen through now and again, and have as a treat. Morrissey seems like an insufferable prick though.
4 Sterne schon allein für Johnny Marr
Very good. Especially Barbarism Begins At Home.
Loved this, really into it. My favourite of the new wave / Post punk stuff coz the singer of this band can sing pretty well. Plenty of sick bass lines too. Going for 4 stars not five because I checked out a subsequent album and I think it was better and more varied.
Saved Prior: None Off Rip: The Headmaster Ritual, Rusholme Ruffians, I Want the One I Can't Have, That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore, Nowhere Fast Cutting Edge: None Overall Notes: I love the Smiths, but I don't know if I've found a Smiths album that I adore yet. They all have really good songs, but also songs that I would rather skip. Just as with Strangeways the first half was much better than the second half. Nevertheless, a 4 of an album (Strangeways was also probably a 4 too but I can't change my old ratings). Excited for The Queen Is Dead which is supposedly their masterpiece.
Some stand out songs and plenty of warbling.
Норм прокачался, в How Soon Is Now? залип немного. Решил пересмотреть Зачарованных (нет).
There was a time before Mozza became a reactionary cunta. It was pretty magic.
my only issue with the Smiths is that in the first few seconds of every song i go 'oh yeah I've heard this before' and then it turns out I haven't. I liked this album. Made me think about tom keight
A catchy album. The vocals kind of drifted into the background for me, but the instrumentals were where the whole thing really shined.
Some of the best to come out of the UK in the 80's the rhythm section is on point and the guitar playing is layered with great rhythm and melodies. The grooves are huge for a 4-piece rock band. Even Morrissey works way harder than most vocalists.
Not their best album but excellent nonetheless. Headmaster Ritual, nowhere fast, that joke isn’t funny anymore....We’re talkin all the hits, all the big ones, all the good ones. The he smells crime again, he's out busting heads. Then he's back to the lab for some more full penetration. Smells crime. Back to the lab, full penetration. Crime. Penetration. Crime. Full penetration. Crime. Penetration. And this goes on and on and back and forth for 45 or so minutes until the album just sort of ends...
Pretty great music from The Smiths. Morrissey is always a little bit too much lyrically, but it’s still a unique listen. Johnny Marr is a killer guitarist and shines through the whole album.
August 27, 2021 This was not bad? A bit depressing.
Gonna do the usual, seperate music from art and artist. But also fuck Morrissey. The album is good, as most of the smiths work is. I like it, made me feel vaguely bad about eating meat, which I think was the goal. Anyway, solid guitar work, writing, and vocals
No a huge Smiths fan but enjoyed this and when relistened enjoyed it even more
Hate that Morrisey's a total piece of garbage because this is really good. My favorite Smiths songs aren't on here but as a whole album it's probably my favorite of theirs.
Listening to this made me realize that I'd only ever heard The Smiths in passing. They have such a great, unique sound and this album blew way past my expectations
Overall I enjoyed this album, which I was surprised about. My favourite songs are The Headmaster's Ritual and Nowhere fast. 4/5 stars just because I felt it sounded a bit repetitive.
but murder is also murder
"How Soon is Now?" might be my favorite song from the Smiths, and it was on the US release of this album. I will listen to that track every time. I have heard other albums by the Smiths all the way through, including some 'Best of...' albums. I don't think that I have listened to this album all the way through. Many of the tracks felt new to me, but with the familiar Smiths sound. I would listen to this album again.
This is catchy and has a great 80s feel.
It takes a special skill to separate The Smiths Morrissey from what he's like now, but I've managed it. All four Smiths albums are wonderful and I expect to see The Queen is Dead and Strangeways Here We Come in the 1001 albums
Nível de musicalidade agradável, faixas ótimas
Á að vera besta Smiths platan. Er ekki sammála. Samt góð.
Morrissey is the worst vegetarian since Hitler, but whether or not he's trying to be, he's pretty funny. The plaintive howl of "I've seen this happen in other people's lives, and now it's happened in mine" from "That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore" is exactly as straight-faced as it needs to be for the song to work. I feel bad for the members of The Smiths who aren't Morrissey because they seem decent and talented (the bass on "Barbarism Begins at Home" is a particular stand out performance) and Morrissey seems exhausting to be around.
Let's face it, 'Strangeways' is their greatest album. Moz and Marr still come out swinging with this album though (even if it is only a bunch of gladioli). Though Moz may have turned into an insufferable boor and the title track is the worst song on here, it's still a solid album but (I'm saying it again) it's not their best. No matter what anyone may tell you. Best Tracks: I Want The One I Can't Have; That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore
I enjoyed this one a lot, although it did lack real standout tracks. 3.5 rounded up.
great rock album would love to learn some of the tracks
Muy buen disco
Morrissey is a bit of a dick now, but this is a classic
I liked this one, very catchy despite going against a lot of things I like. The vocals- something dreamier must exist, yet they’re still strangely enjoyable
Johnny Marr is great, and Morrissey has a fantastic voice. I could do with out the social justice message.
Mjög góð, ætti að hlusta á þessa oftar
Genre: Jangle Pop 4/5 Another solid entry from a group I’ve since grown quite fond of. While I don’t find it better or worse than Strangeways, it manages to hit all of the same buttons as the last one did. The arrangements are well done, some really tremendous bass work on this, and Morrissey sounds great in this one too. Well I Wonder is one of my new favorite songs, as well as the kickass opener, The Headmaster Ritual, and I don’t even mind the experimental title track. These guys certainly carried the torch passed along from the Beatles well. Really solid album.
Quite a progressive album from The Smiths for the time it was released. There is clearly a lot of underlying dissent to the archaic way Morrissey was treated in school and yet it's also very forward thinking, contrary to the popular sentiment of eating meat as well as jokes at other's expense not being ok. Best: That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore Worst: Nowhere Fast
Clasicc Smiths. Their sound is unique and with Morrissey’s lyrics and Marr’s jangling guitars it a perfect combination. One of Manchester’s finest
nicht das beste smiths album in der liste, trotzdem einige enjoyable tracks (I Want the One I Can’t Have, Nowhere Fast, Barbarism Begins At Home). ganz cool ist der „field recording“ aspekt von dem album, inhaltlich passende geräusche zu samplen, aber es fühlt sich wie eine nur halbgar ausgeführte idee. der title track enthält natürlich einen komplett dämlichen take zum abschluss. strong 3 to light 4 sozusagen.
This is not a rant or an hysterical bombast. It is a polite and calmly measured request: Would you please stop mentioning my name in your reviews? Would you please, instead, discuss your own career, your own unstoppable solo achievements and your own music? If you can, would you please just leave me out of it? The fact is: you don’t know me. You know nothing of my life, my intentions, my thoughts, my feelings. Yet you talk as if you were my personal psychiatrist with consistent and uninterrupted access to my instincts. In diesem Sinne solides Dinge was so klingt wie die meisten anderen Smiths sachen was widerum based ist was widerum auch die Lust geschmälert hat weil ich das am wenigsten kenne und bisschen übersätigt bin über die letzten Jahre. Hat für mich nach Gefühl weniger Outstanding Songs so insgesamt. 3,5
„It’s very obvious that meat eaters don’t like it because it forces them to think about the ethics of their choices.“ ich glaub das ist jetzt mein Lieblingsalbum von den Smiths. Erinnert mich iwie ziemlich an viele der Sachen die bei Creation Records Anfang der 80er rausgekommen sind. Auch wenn man hier imo keine Hits findet ist das Gesamtpaket für die Verhältnisse der Band extrem abwechslungsreich und spaßig
Barbarim Begins At Home ist der beste Die Schmitts Song
Noch ein letztes Mal bevor die Grünen es verbieten: Das Album
hate to say it aber sehr sehr gut und abwechslungsreich, als ich das zum ersten mal gehört hab fand ich's nicht so gut im vergleich zu the queen is dead Aber heilige scheisse meat is murder (der song) ist der schlechteste song den man ans ende packen würde, kommt nicht ansatzweise an jeden beliebigen anderen song dran 8/10
Ziemlich gutes Ding, gibt aber besserer Smiths Alben
Good stuff, notwithstanding any personal impressions of Morrissey
What a classic. Comes in just under forty minutes. No filler.
Curiós que el que es podria considerar pitjor dels quatre discos oficials de la banda estigui a la llista. Sigui com sigui es millor que el 30% d'ella
Very much enjoyed this album. It has a very recognizable sound and brought me right back to the 80s!
I really enjoyed the overall message of the album, I did feel like some of the songs did blend together though but enjoyable nontheless.
Love the Smiths
I liked it!
Ok, Morrissey I get it I'll stop eating meat
The glory days before Morrisey was a right wing dick and he made such charming music…
LOVE Johnny's dreamy guitar sound. "Barbarism" is such a cool song. The guitars on the title track are downright spooky. Solid rhythm section too. Morrissey's voice is quite nice (although there were a couple moments it irked me a tiny bit on this album) The Smiths >>> The Cure I like the album, but it doesn't feel QUITE on the same level as the "Queen is Dead" for me. A few of the songs feel a bit too long for what they're worth, but they're all pleasant. The more that internet warriors call Morrissey a terrible person, the more I like him. I'm so fatigued by ppl calling artists pRoBLeMaTic that I think the controversial ones are the coolest ones after all. I'm bored of all the tame basic celebs who tailor every single thing they say to fit the current zeitgeist of socially acceptable opinion. The internet is full of self-flagellating losers who spend their time searching for outrage instead of contributing to society if you look up "i love morrissey" all the top search results are explaining why so many Latin Americans love Morrissey?? What lmfaooo
Idk man ja sku nästan villa ge en femma!!! Anyways deras bästa album…. Ingen keps….
All in all a less self-serious effort, which suits the sound. The downtempo cuts aren't for me, but the songs feel essential and the musicians all have their chops.
I enjoyed this one. I was working so not listening super closely, but it had some catchy riffs and I found myself tuning in more than with other albums. This is one that I wouldn't mind hearing again. I wasn't really listening to the lyrics but I think I get the gist.
As Tom said to me, the singer’s voice is the progenitor for all “hipster/indie bullshit” and I do love my hipster/indie bullshit. While not quite something I would listen to on my own, this is the closest to the kind of music I enjoy of the albums so far.
Never listened to these guys before (though I had heard of them). Surprised to find...I really liked it! Unlike yesterday (Grateful Dead album), where I kept forgetting that I was even listening to anything, this one wouldn't let my mind wander - Kept demanding my attention with cool things, convincing me that it would be worth my time to listen and try to figure out what the songs were about.
I’m a big fan of the Queen is Dead, first time listening to this album, it’s also very good but just not as good as their best work. Standard caveat everyone has to make now when praising the Smiths…”Just a shame Morrissey turned out to be a complete arse.”
Good album, Morriseys voice is fantastic. Interesting funky undertones too.
I've never listened to this Smiths album before. Sonically, it is very similar to the Queen is Dead, which I know well and love. On first listen, it seems to lack some of the humour and immediacy that contributes to that album's greatness. I guess it's difficult to find vegetarianism that funny or interesting. Having said that, the title track is unintentionally hilarious in its earnestness. 3.5/5
One great speciality of the British songwriter, one we Brits especially appreciate in our songwriters, is the teller of the uncomfortable truth. One can see shades of it in Mick Jagger, Roger Waters and Damon Albarn, rather more so in John Lennon and Shaun Ryder, and signally in Ray Davies, John Lydon and Jarvis Cocker. However, no British songwriter has embodied this archetype as eminently as Morrissey, the eccentric, catty, wilfully contrarian yodeller of 80s indie codifiers The Smiths. Indeed, pointing out (his version of) facts most would rather cold-shoulder became his songwriting raison d'être. Of course, this stance seems a dangerous one to hold; several of the figures mentioned have struggled with the consequences of an audience expecting a perpetual heckler shouting that he can see the emperor's knob, and I'd argue that this is a significant reason why Morrissey has pissed all over his reputational chips in recent time. But anyway, Meat is Murder, the second Smiths album, offers no extreme departures from the standard Smiths aesthetic. This is not a disparagement; the Smiths had a set palate of some variation (glam-tinged jangles, rockabilly stompers, histrionic wails of despair (their forte)), so they had no real need to go beyond it. Also, the Smiths were rather good at what they did, so we have a rather fine collection of songs. The songs themselves are split between the sardonic, the comic and the tormented; of course, the best song on the album, The Joke Isn't Funny Anymore, belongs in the last category. But note that the jokes on the album often work rather well: I'd like to drop my trousers to the queen Every sensible child will know what this means The poor and the needy Are selfish and greedy on her terms It made me laugh. However, I don't think I call give Meat is Murder five stars. Yes, it's because it just lacks that pinch of spice to complete the recipe. And yes, I should mention that the title track is the weakest on the record, but not for its vegetarian screed; the song is musically a experiment that doesn't really work. A noble misstep, but still a misstep. J.K. Rowling's favourite band is the Smiths.
Fuck Morrissey! But I do really really enjoy The Smiths. This is not my favorite of their albums, but it still is a very enjoyable album. Johnny Marr is an amazing musician and to be able to write as good of songs as they did without being in together while they write is so impressive.
The Smiths tend to sway from good to meh for me, but I enjoyed this album a good bit. Favourites: "Nowhere Fast", "Well I Wonder", "Barbarian Begins at Home"
Morrissey, is that you again? Meat is Murder? Are you going to stand behind me again, greasing up your penis, ready to put it inside me? Your big meaty fleshstick right up inside me? You sick vegetable bumming racist.
I think The Smiths are a really specific type of music but I really like it, personally.
Morrisey's voice is much more palatable with Johnny Marr's guitars underneath. He's such a creative and diverse rhythm guitar player - compare "What She Said" to "That Joke isn't Funny Anymore". "How Soon Is Now" isn't on this (UK) release and even though I'm so tired of that song, it would have earned one more point.
I was enjoying a Deluxe chicken dinner, a Sudbury speciality, when I turned my mind to Meat is Murder. While I like the songs more on the Smiths 1st album, Marr's guitar playing is stellar on Meat is Murder. Post listen I'm off to Tarini's to get one of their signature porchetta roast. Meat is Murder is a dam good album but I guess I missed the point..
7/10. Decent, his singing gets wearing after a while though
Great album! In particular, I loved the electric, upbeat songs. Nowhere Fast was probably my favorite track. I also loved the theme of the last song. Very interesting and sort of spooky.
The precursor to modern day indie music in the 80’s. An enjoyable and quick album to listen through. Favorite song I think was I Want the One I Can’t Have.
I want to start by saying: Fuck Morrissey The Smiths are the centerpiece of jangle pop. They obviously did something special in the 80's, taking driving, gated drums of post-punk and combining it with some of the old-school 50's and 60's styles of pop/rock songwriting. The result is a sound that is equally nostalgic as it is innovative. The Smiths wrapped up this sound in their frankly fantastic songwriting to provide some of the best sounds of the 80's. The signature Smiths' sound is steeped in a sort of longing sadness. It's something I'm not a personal fan of, but it's hard to deny it's potency as excellent songwriting. The whole album is fine-tuned for a cohesive sound that delivers in spades.
Regrettably very good
Huge fan of the Smiths, all of their albums. Some of their most enegetic (Rusholme Syndrome, Barbarism Begins at Home) and most miserable tracks (That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore, Meat is Murder). Some nice influences like the postpunk "I Want the One" or surf rock "Nowhere Fast." Several weak songs, but it's pretty solid, and I love the Morrissey's yearning vocal style, his introspective lyrics, and the mix of New Wave synths and jangly guitar. Would listen again as with the rest of their discography.
Tough one, the Smiths sound great hear, but hard to erase the last twenty or so years of Morrisey being a bell end. Still great album, with some nice xperimental touches.
Pretty good album. I definitely understood the smiths in my mind. I don’t have too much negative to say, it was just missing that secret sauce
I heard this sometime back in college at a party, or at least I heard the song "Meat Is Murder." I disliked that experience enough that ever since I was sure I did not like The Smiths. Oops. Although the title track is my least favorite song on this album, I really kind of liked a lot of this. The songs are less whiny and catchier than I thought I remembered. There's a dry wit in a lot of the songs that I enjoyed. A few of the songs surprised me with their tone and quality. The only lingering reservation is I lost interest in some of the songs well before they before they ended. Fortunately the album was peppered with songs I really liked that I was able to ride those out. I'm not a huge fan of The Smiths yet, but I've made some real progress with this listen. Favorites: The Headmaster Ritual, Rusholme Ruffians, Well I Wonder, Barbarism Begins At Home
J'ai bien aimé. je ne connais pas morissey et les gens semblent le détester... je m'en fou un peu, La guitare et les arrangements sont malade. Barbarism begins at home a un super jam et la guitare est super crisp. Vraiment bien. 4.10 car un peu plus que Strangeways, here we come que j'ai eu sur cette liste.
The Cure лучше.
I like my steaks so rare it feels like I'm murdering the meat myself /srs Good album, though Morrissey's vocals sound so dreadfully weepy
starting biased because i really like the smiths already, but havent listened to this album the whole way through. halfway in i love it so far. like all of the songs, but favorites are the headmaster ritual and that joke isnt funny anymore. its great. pretty much all of these songs ill be listening to again in some capacity and some are goin in the playlist.
Enjoyed the album vibe, no big standouts but overall vibe was good
The music was great but the singer wasn't. If the singer was stronger I'd consider a 5 but because he was just okay they have been knocked back to a 4.
This is my first time hearing the Smiths, and I can see what all the hype is about. Very cohesive album with amazing storytelling, great production, and a lot of interesting concepts I’ll need to relisten to fully digest. I think there’s potential for more variety in sound, think a couple songs with more energy would do it justice, but really fucked with the vibes on this thing (maybe not as depressed as the smiths are though)
Top, inventive & charming. Songs progress incredibly well and the whole album avoids repetitions. Riffs are surprisingly catchy and the overarching unpolished production makes it a superbly endearing album. Can see how Morrissey's singing could rebuke some, but there's no getting around it if you want to get into the album. Great writing, great album. Best songs: What She Said; That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore; Well I Wonder; Barbarism Begins at Home
Definitely a moodier alternative to The Queen is Dead. Some real standout tracks like Rusholme Ruffians and Meat is Murder. All in all, though, not as many memorable hooks and catchy songs as what came after.
I liked this...maybe more than The Queen is Dead? I dig the 80s-ness of The Smiths.
Legenda: 1-Não oiço nunca e se alguém estiver a ouvir penso menos dessa pessoa. 2-Não oiço nunca 3-Não chateia, e se ouvir alguém ouvir, isso não me chateia 4-Oiço várias vezes, se ouvir alguém ouvir -> essa pessoa ganha respeito 5-Sou capaz de ouvir sempre
Another great album by The Smiths, its own unique style make this album kinda in terms of message and meaning but it's a peaceful album. The combination of rhythms give this album its uniqueness, even if us classified it as alternative rock, it's just The Smiths style
not that interesting to me
it was fine background music
No idea what I was getting myself into but I didnt really expect this beach rocky jam. On the cusp of being what the timothey chalemet character listens to in a teen movie
Same old smiths shit. Namesake of the album song is pretty good