Well that was terrible -- but at least it was long.
Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water is the third studio album by American band Limp Bizkit, released on October 17, 2000, by Flip and Interscope Records. Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water received mixed reviews from critics, as Metacritic gave it a 49 out of 100. AllMusic writer Stephen Thomas Erlewine wrote, "Durst's self-pitying and the monotonous music give away that the band bashed Chocolate Starfish out very quickly – it's the sound of a band determined to deliver a sequel in a finite amount of time." The Rolling Stone Album Guide awarded the album three out of five stars, whereas the magazine itself gave the album a 3.5 out of 5. Even so, Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water was listed in the book for 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die, but later removed in recent editions of the book.
Well that was terrible -- but at least it was long.
Suck a dick, Fred Durst
Most people seem to hate this just because of the Fred Durst of it all. I hate it because it's awful.
i don't think i could hate this music more. How the hell is this on any list of albums you need to hear? Now i feel bad about giving Hail to the Thief 1 star, because that alsbum is light years better than this trash. Also, this is clearly the worst album cover of all time.
The biggest problem here in my mind is best represented in comparison to other Nu-Metal that I am a fan of. SOAD - Not enough melodic talent from Durst to rival Serj. Slipknot - Not enough actual edge to even get close to this sound. RATM - No real political message besides "Fuck everyone else". Linkin Park - Not nearly the same even blend of rock, hip hop, and electronic. Korn - Much heavier, and handles experimental pieces better all around. Evanescence - 2000s Goths and Emos know what I'm talking about. No authenticity in comparison here. That isn't comprehensive at all, but you can see the core issues of authenticity, talent, and meaningfulness on display. On top of that, the album suffers from major bloat, with almost every non-explicit song needing a cut. That being said, this is the junk food I grew up on, and so I do have to rate it an honest 3 for all the stuff I do like. Could be a 4 or 5 even if the right cuts were made.
Before I even spin the first tune, I'll say this is a band I consciously avoided. Not sure why. Let's see if I denied myself something fabulous. Oh right... now I remember. Fred Durst may be the biggest little bitch in music. Jesus, he's insufferable. Did you know he doesn't give a fuck? I just Googled "how many times does limp bizkit say fuck on chocolate starfish," and apparently, the title track is noted as having the word "fuck" 48 times. So multiplied by 15, that's 720. So, I still listened to the album (how some of these songs have over 200 million spins on Spotify is confounding). "My Way" has something that resembles a hook, "The One" is actually not offensive or juvenile, and the blend of electronic and metal has promise, but the message in the music is so self-focused and inane, and it's so flat and uninspired, it's hard to endure. I guess some folks feel differently. Great. Makes me wish I rated When Teardrops Explode as a 2 because this sets the bar for a one-star rating. Next?
This whole thing is just a giant collection of garbage and it's inclusion on this list is an insult to every other artist and to every one taking part in this exercise. There is nothing about this that even makes sense, the artwork, the title, the construction of the track listing, the inclusion of two version of "Rollin'" and the Outro is just a big ol' heap of garbage. I can't believe I made it through this whole thing. I'm exhausted and need a fucking beer. Giving it one star since it won't allow me to give it anything less.
So egregiously bad that, often enough, it wraps around to being funny. Made even worse/funnier that sometimes the riffs are actually good until Mr. Durst comes and opens his mouth.
I really only knew the name of this band and that they are from Chicago. "Intro" hit and I'm like "woah...am I a Limp Bizkit fan?" "Hot Dog" started to hit a little hard but then I found myself grooving and laughing. While this is not my preferred genre, I'm really surprised that I kind of enjoy nu-metal rap!
Hot take: this would be a semi-decent metal LP (maybe mid-tier deftones level) if you cut a few tracks and the lead singer didn't sound like Ron Stoppable.
So, so bad
Lots of questions here... So this album was on the original list of 1001 albums, and then later pulled. Why was it put on the list? What are the qualifications of being put on this list? Furthermore? What made it get pulled off the list? Looking at Oct 2000, there were a number of albums that were released around that same time that I hold in higher regard that did not make the list. I have to wonder why they did not make the list. The album itself is not bad. There are a couple of songs I knew from previously. But I mean... Fred Durst? Really? Not exactly the most skilled artist. But hey, Limp Bizkit sells, so there must be something to it, right? There is a definite energy there. But 75 minutes of it? Nope. Just tiring. Next.
I kind of wish I hadn't been paying attention to any of the lyrics because I actually did enjoy the music here. But the words... My goodness, these guys sound like they are just SO MAD at their moms. So much whining. So very much whining. Too bad.
I get that the album title is supposed to make me throw up a little each time I encounter it, but really do we have to make an effort to make the world a worse place? Same thing with the music tracks here. I won't deny that after a particularly distressing and upsetting morning that it wasn't a little cathartic to hear someone screaming "fuck" 49 times and "burn this fucker down" and so on two hours late on my way to work... But that was only 1/4 of the way through the album. And then it went on and on and on and got worse and worse and worse. Whosoever wants to hear the last track more than one miserable time? I mean really?
Zero stars if I could
Awful. Awful lyrics, awful music, awful everything. Embarrassing.
No. I refuse. You've made me listen to a Korn album and a Marilyn Manson album, and there were ways that I could reasonable criticize those albums, but I refuse to believe that any human being could be so brain damaged as to think that Limp Bizkit deserves to be represented on this list. What could I possibly be meant to take away from this other than the idea that rock music was a crucifying hellscape in the early 2000s? Jesus. I'm on the second song, and it's not just that I want to turn the album off, I'm losing the will to keep going. It's like Fred Durst just found out about NIN and the word fuck at the same time. Like, how did he think that anyone would find this interesting? What is the point of any of this? Fred Durst might be the worst lyricist I've ever heard. All of his songs are just a word salad put together from South Park episodes. Every song has basically the same sound and structure. Most of his choruses seem to be lyrics stolen from other songs in a way that suggests that Durst doesn't really get any of the music that he likes. I genuinely have nothing positive to say about this. This album should have been buried in the desert next to old copies of ET on Atari. It's really shocking the extent to which even the best elements of this album are mediocre. I'm genuinely angry that I wasted my time listening to this 1/5
Is it possible to give this pile of sh!t less than one star?
The fucking peanut gallery, sheesh. This album fuckin thumps. It isn't as good as significant other, but it has its charm. Not that anyone here plans on giving it a chance. Willing to bet half these reviews were written before the first song finished, and the album was turned off after that. Pussies. 5/5 and keep fuckin ROLLIN!
TapouT brand rap rock edgelord
I didn’t realise this list included comedy albums!
Comfortably the worst record I’ve ever heard. Managed three tracks and that was two too many
I came so close to rating this album 2 stars just so I wouldn't have a blatant anus spoiling my otherwise nice summary page, but I can't in good conscience give this album that high of praise.
Oh FFS. This shit should have been incinerated with all of the other hazardous nu-metal waste and relegated to - at best - a minor, MINOR footnote in music history. Just utter garbage that wasn't worth anyone's time when it was released, let alone now. If only we could rate 0 stars...
Appalling - one of the worst records I have ever heard.
genuinely unlistenable. 90s nu metal was a dark period in history
Why have you done this to me
Can this get zero stars?
No, thank you.
Just the worst.
nobody needs to listen to this before they day except for maybe ben stiller
Lol. This is a joke the app pulled on us all, right? So, lemme just get it straight... The album starts with two tracks ripping off choruses by Nine Inch Nails and The Who over horribly *dated* nu-metal sounds, and you're supposed to think this is a "creative" proposal here? Fred Durst's so-called "rapping" is grating to the extreme, aptly and faithfully evoking the sound of fingernails on a chalk board, the guitar hooks are competently played but miserable or bland, and when the band is seemingly out of stupid ideas, they rake the undersized glands that serve as brains for them to pull off an even stupidest idea: "Hey guys, let's use the Mission Impossible theme for our next hit single!" "Duuuuude, that's a *great* idea! But I'ma take one last hit from that bong first, OK?" Oh. I almost forgot. This album cover is *also* the ugliest cover *of all time*. Not "artistic-ugly" or "ironic-ugly". Just plain, I-don't-know-what-I'm-doing-here-with-my-computer-yet-I'm-doing-it-nonetheless ugly. Jesus H. Christ. I've counted: there are only *three* reviews that are giving a "5" to this turd. Three. But a 2.55/5 overall rating is still *way* too generous. And there are not so many reviews written yet. I hope that grade will go even lower with time. I've spotted a few records on the list that actually have an even lower score, and conversely deserve far better appreciation from music fans (records such as Robert Wyatt's *Rock Bottom* or even the last one ever in the global stats, Einsturzende Neubaten's *Kollaps*). No wonder someone in Dimery's team later put their foot down and decided to place "Chocolate Fish And Whatever Your Fried Brain Is Having A Thought About" right where it deserved to go: down to the toilets flush. Number of albums left to review: 714 Number of albums from the list I find relevant enough to be mandatory listens: 143 Albums from the list I *might* include in mine later on: 69 Albums from the list I will certainly *not* include in mine (many others are more important): 79 (including this one)
Evidently, this was removed (for good reason), but I persevered anyway... for over an hour.
Cheap sounding production. Cheap references to other music acts -- and Macromedia Shockwave (wtf). Cheap dick jokes. If I was a wrestler looking for a new entrance song for an upcoming heel turn, this is the album I would start with. I like when the vocalist goes into his weird falsetto whine raps -- especially on the hokey-pokey sections of "Rollin'." There's a part of "The One" where the bass kind of sounds like The Cure. That's my favorite part of this record which I will never listen to again. "Boiler" gives some Deftones vibes but the vocals, again, are just really not good. A pile of crap at the intersection of Eminem and Linkin Park.
One of the worst things I’ve ever heard.
I think this is the worst thing I’ve ever heard. Even nostalgia couldnt save this one for me.
I started this project focused on listening every single album, even the ones I really despise. But I had no idea there was this specific kind of disgusting shit on this list. Fuck Limp Bizkit, Fred Durst and everything related to this unholy piece of crap, I'm not wasting one hour of my life on this. This one should be top 3 on 1001 Albums You Shouldn't Hear Before You Die. Fuck it. I wish I could rate it -5, or at least 0.
Rollin' (Urban Assault Vehicle) needs to be a war track in Warzone 2
five stars and five hot dogs flavored water
Your mouth is writing checks your ass can't cash. But this album can.
I will vehemently defend this album - it's a great example of critics not knowing what they're talking about. Limp Bizkit were lightning in a bottle, and Chocolate Starfish... is their uncorking. It... Appealed to a generation of young people that were actively disenfranchised at the time (Full nelson) Spawned smash-hit singalongs that are still played in bars and clubs today (Rollin', My Way, My Generation) Captured the zeitgeist of the late 90s (Livin' It Up, Take A Look Around) and draws towards its' conclusion with a performance so heartfelt that even its' cringiest lines are forgivable-at-worst (Boiler) Whilst it's not its' generations Sticky Fingers or Blonde on Blonde it is something special that's too regularly cast off for being easy (wrong), unadventurous (wrong) or dumb (a little bit, but mostly wrong) 5 STARS
Kinda decent for a meme of a band
The cover of this turned me off. The explanation of the title turned me off. So I hit 'play' fully expecting to hate this. I want genuinely surprised when I didn't. I enjoyed the anger-filled songs. The talented and catchy performances temper those hard edges. It was surprisingly good to listen to while I was working. Maybe Limp Bizkit is addressing some latent rage. This may be just the ticket the next time I want to throw a tantrum in the back seat. I went on to listen to this a second time today, except for the last two songs which the album doesn’t really need.
I thoroughly expected to hate this album. Guess what? I didn't. That said, I think the act of listening to Chocolate Starfish... reduced my IQ by a few points; and certainly the replay value is limited. Fred Durst has, for better or worse, a distinctive voice, but his whelping is of the register of a man having his sunburnt shoulders being slapped (a distinctive possibility, as one imagines Mr Durst lives a largely sleeveless life). In terms of lyrics, it's an absolute shambles, although I have been enlightened as to many ways 'fuck' can be deployed as noun, verb and adjective. And yet? Well, it's hard to deny the animating spirit behind this endeavour - a celebration of boneheaded machismo and exxxxtreme attitude. For all the posturing, there's a good-natured vibe throughout, and moreover, it's often very fun. I'm also never going to complain about huge riffs and huge beats. The cherry on top? 'Rollin'' is a true five star song. It's a monster - a riff as big as a house wedded to a chorus that is beautiful in its Neanderthal simplicity. Of course you've also got the celebrate three genders "hey ladies / hey fellas / and the people that don't give a fuck", which is frankly ahead of it's time in its inclusivity. Listening to 'Rollin'', I feel like I can run through a brick wall. I feel like I can successfully invade a micronation. Few songs hold such potency.
I'll sue for the cover which scared the shit out of me. the music is ok
The day has come. I mean saying fuck 48 or whatever times i guess is an accomplishment. Having just listened to Rage's self titled, there are so many sonic parallels, but replacing Zach D with Fred Durst is almost a crime. So its the complete vapidity of the lyrics, coupled with Fred Durst having a voice for silent film makes me feel so down about this album. Like the instrumentals are actually pretty competent and the sonic structure is sold. It's not just the lyrics, I also don't think his voice is a good fit for this style. Rollin' is a bonafide piece of shit song. It'll Be Okay has some great hooks, and if it had Chester, I would believe that this was a Linkin Park track. Jesus, why is there a 9min outro?!
Plus one star for the Wu Tang track. I was in Jr High when Limp Bizkit hit the scene, and I was way too into them, even for the time. This album is the one where they jumped the shark (if that's possible). If this band has to be on the list (they don't), it should have been one of the first two, and I'm not saying they would hold up at all; what I am saying is whoever added this to the list didn't have the ear of the pimply-faced target audience of the day. Btw, the outro includes a dude making fun of the band for like six minutes and it's by far the most relatable thing they've ever done. Best track: Rollin' (Urban Assault Vehicle)
bizkit's magnum opus
Is this a fuckin prank
I didn’t have a great day today and that may be because this album got generated 1/5
Unbelievably wack. It's an hour long tirade of douchey, yet trashy rhymes that make you feel like you had one too many monsters before booze cruising around the streets of Jacksonville. The same way we look back in time at questionable fashion choices, I look back at this album and think "how the fuck was this ever popular?". This album is a cocktail of bud light, testosterone, energy drinks, cigarette smoke, and insecurity that gets spit out at the listener through the corniest bars of all time. Silver linings: I'm now realizing that I should be grateful that I was too young to ever get into this album or know who Fred Durst was while the album was popular
Awful. Just awful. There's no justification for this being here. This album has some of the worst rapping you will ever hear. The singing and screaming isn't any good either. It all borders on comical, except it's too annoying to be funny. The lyrics are incredibly stupid as well.The cherry on top is that it's way too long of an album. I can't lie, I liked this a lot as a teen but unlike a lot of other artists I liked then but do not like so much now, I don't even get a slight nostalgia buzz. I just feel embarrassed and annoyed. I have no idea why I or anyone else did though. It's like millions of us were under hypnosis back then. Its crazy to think of just how HUGE this band was. I can't believe that I even took the time to say more than the 2 words that would've sufficed for this album: SHIT SANDWICH
Not a fan at all.
Uh, yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and take a page from the Book of Bizkit itself and keep things rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin’.
Oh come on...really? REALLY Robert? THIS is on your list? You're gonna make me sit and listen to it so I can trash it more than it's already been trashed? Or are you just trolling us all with this one? I got two songs in before switching it to a much better nu metal album (System of a Down’s debut)
Did they actually hard code this album to everybody for it's...23rd anniversary? At least I got this dogshit out of the way in one fell swoop between my personal and group listens
Lmao, come on man. What the hell are we doing here?
This is an album I do not want to hear again before I die.
I listened to and loved this album in my teens. Turns out I still really like it. Banging album.
Echt genoten hiervan, veel meer dan ik verwacht had. Het heeft veel weg van Rage Against the Machine, dus dat is altijd goed. Ik krijg ook heel erg het gevoel dat dit is hoe het zou klinken als Linkin Park niet zo commercieel zou zijn. Dit album heeft meerdere hoogtepunten (Rollin, Take a look around) en eigenlijk geen dieptepunten. Het voelt een beetje ongemakkelijk om dit 5 sterren te geven want het staat natuurlijk niet op gelijke hoogte met andere 5 sterren albums, maar ik vond het wel een stuk leuker dan 4 sterren, dus dan doen we het gewoon.
Machtige combinatie van rap en metal. En een beetje nostalgie laat de rating ook wat stijgen
One of my all time favorite bands, how can I not give 5 stars?
Haha of course it's a 5. It's Limp Bizkit. Fuck it. I mean, it's not a 5, but there we go.
oh fuck yeah dude. Never did own this album nor have I listened to it other than what they would have played on the radio. So this will be nice. Dude I actually really like this. Love the attitude and the rhyming. This album is great! 5 ✨
Voi juma! Tämä saattaa olla meikäläisen kaikkien aikojen eniten kuunneltu levy, tai ainakin tiukasti kärkikahinoissa. Vuosien saatossa pääsi jo hieman unohtumaankin, mutta sitten puuttui kohtalo peliin. Ostin ensimmäisen oman auton ehkä 2015 ja tämä kyseinen mestariteos oli jäänyt edelliseltä omistajlta soittimen sisään. Ei tainnu Pasuunassa juuri muu musiikki soida tämän lisäksi. Lukemattomien toistokertojen jälkeen tällä levyllä ei ole ensimmäistäkään täytebiisiä vaan kyseessä on täydellinen mestariteos. Moni ei varmasti allekirjoita, mutta IDGAF koska pikku-Timolle ei vittuilla.
5-stars. LOVE this album. It means so much to me. A really fun time of my life.
Rap metal. A ratos me ha recordado a RATM. Venga, un 4.
Actually not bad. Very much of its time, but it's easy to see why they were so popular; Fred Durst's cartoony, juvenile persona matched with punchy, compressed guitars and flawless production.
Rock album that really rocked me!! Crazy energy and I loved it. Would gladly listen to again... Some hip-hop musicalities also really caught my attention!! Really nice 4/5
Kind of my péché minion. But I spent a lot of time listening to that album and limp bizkit overall ! I really like the rap and metal mix, it's both angry and efficient. I have to admit that the mix is not always perfect but overall I really enjoy this album ! 4.25/5
Completely nostalgic review from me. I thought these guys were the coolest. I was 16 when this came out and listened to it for hours. It hasn't aged super well, but still gets the blood moving.
I'm sure it's a lot of rose-tinted glasses, but I really enjoyed listening to this album again. It ended up taking me down a rabbit hole of old nu-metal for a couple hours. I can't make a case for Fred Durst being a virtuoso or anything, but Limp Bizkit is definitely a guilty pleasure.
This album brought back more memories than I thought could be hiding in back of my jnco jeans. I was surprised how much I still enjoyed it, and I also remember Limp Bizkit seeming so angry to me, and they really do not come across that way to me as a 38 year old.
I've always had a soft spot for Limp Bizkit. In the 90s, my older brother sent me on a mall mission to find their debut album. Every CD store employee looked at me like I was speaking gibberish (I guess I kind of was...limp biscuit, three dollar bill???). A year or two later when they were massively famous, I thought Fred Durst was the coolest dude ever. I even wanted to buy the same red Yankees cap he always wore. It's fortunate I never did...I was a 14 year old, white, middle class girl from southern Ontario and I'm pretty sure I would have looked ridiculous. But damn it, in my heart of hearts, I really thought I was a badass. I never, ever listen to Limp Bizkit anymore but I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy this trip down memory lane.
It's weird to see how hatred has become nostalgia over the years. What we used to despise 20 years ago is being listened now with a mix of remembrance and a feeling of 'ok, it wasn't that bad'. This record, coming from the spectacular success of 'Significant Other' and their infamous appearance at Woodstock, takes you back at a point in time, the turning of the century, when so much things were going on and these songs happened to be part of their soundtrack. So, after all these years, hats off to Fred Durst and co
What a blast from the past. I knew more than I thought I would. And was transported back to my youth. Pleasantly surprised.
Rating: 8/10 Best songs: Hot dog, My generation, Rollin, Take a look around
Listened Before? Y Ohhhh boy! This one is a surprising selection for this list! I absolutely love this record, and the band too. They're heavy, dirty, aggressive, and unapologetic. The perfect 2000 album. Just before 9/11, when everything was excess and aggression. So much cussing, and so many heavy riffs. One of my favorites, although I bet the ratings are very low overall. We'll see! Added to Library? Y (was already there) Songs added to playlist: My Generation, Full Nelson
Fun album. But you got to be in the mood for the abrasive lyrics. Appears to be an album for those who think others reject them.
Tanke jag hade: Fred Durst är som Eminem om han hade samma mognadsnivå men lät bättre då han rappade, hade mer swag och actually kunde skriva catchy låtar. Jag tycker det är rättvist att säga att Limp Bizkits bästa låtar är bland den främsta idiot-rocken, och de har en viss energi som mycket annat inte har. Lyricsen och Fred Dursts vocals må vara barnsliga och pinsamt avslöjande för honom, men det tycker jag mest är roligt. Mognadsnivån känns också som en naturlig match med musikstilen. De flesta låtarna är helt bra men en vettig kritik av skivan är att den borde vara kortare, och fair enough.. . Alla låtar är tyvärr inte My Way eller Hot Dog. Ändå har jag stor respekt fär Roberts val att sätta med denna skiva, den är unik och står för något, fast detta något är de djupaste känslor och övertygelser som den genomsnittliga 12-åringen känt i sitt liv.
I actually kinda like this? what the hell? it’s definitely not my genre, but once you get past the obnoxious metal tropes, it’s a surprisingly enjoyable and creative album I’ll still always prefer bands like Rage Against the Machine or Mr Bungle over this stuff, but honestly, this album ain’t bad at all 7/10
Nice und fun. Limp Bizkit halt
Need more healthy angst white male music
I genuinely think the guitar riffs are amazing, but what doesn't make the whole album amazing is the lyrics and vocals. Some songs aren't too bad with the lyrics (the second half), though. The album cover, name, and intro are definitely interesting. They clearly aren't afraid of being strange or different, in a good way. Fave track(s): The One, Take A Look Around, It'll Be OK
Enjoyed this one but only because I am more open to limp biskit after Woodstock 99.... Interesting that I didn't feel anxiety on this one like on Hole.
It's been 23 years? Wow. Still love this album! Brings back a lot of memories. Standouts: ------------------- My Way, Rollin', Take a Look Around, Boiler, Intro/Hot Dog, My Generation Others: ---------------------- Full Nelson, Livin' It Up, The One, Getcha Groove On, I'll Be OK Rating: 4.5
My God, Limp Bizkit. This takes me back to middle school. I can remember being a rebellious youth, and thinking the song Hot Dog was great because Fred Durst says the word "fuck" 48 times in the song's 3:30 runtime. This rap rock/Nu Metal movement that occurred in the late 90's - early 00's was crazy. You can see a bunch of these bands if you watch reruns of Woodstock '99. Fred Durst was actually blamed for instigating a riot during that festival by singing their song "Break Stuff" to an audience of pissed off young people. I can distinctly remember listening to Limp Bizkit's previous album, Significant Other more than this one, however, this album had its share of hits: Rollin' (Air Raid Vehicle), My Way, My Generation, and Take a Look Around to name a few. Fred Durst's lyrics are corny as hell, but the energy conveyed through his angry lyrics and heavy instrumentation made for one hell of a "pump up" album. This is another one of those albums that is deep rooted in nostalgia for me, so it is hard for me to give an objective opinion on this record. I always felt that liking Limp Bizkit was a guilty pleasure. I get that they are cheesy, and dated, but I still can't deny that the music got my head bobbing a few times. I listened to the record twice today to try and separate nostalgia from fact, but couldn't do it. If nothing else, thanks for the trip down memory lane. Will probably listen again. Favourite songs: Take a Look Around, Rollin' (Air Raid Vehicle), My Generation, My Way, Full Nelson, Get Your Groove On (Dirt Road Mix), Rollin' (Urban Assult Vehicle), Hot Dog Least favourite songs: The One, Hold On, Outro (I don't need to listen to a looped track of someone laughing for 4 minutes) 4/5
I like this band to a certain degree. Yes, they had a big influence on the genre for a solid 1-2 years? But next to every great song is a clunker. But this one is probably my favourite album all together of them. Take A Look Around, Boiler, My Way, Rollin', Livin' It Up are classic though 7,5 out of 10
Conflicted on this one. The album/music itself is a master class in pumped, angry, air boxing motivational music. The production is good, when Fred tries to sing it work, when he spits anger, it's a little whiny, but it works. In addition to the problem of Fred Durst, the place where this title comes from it not just juvenile, but they still think its edgy and cool. Blink-182 gets away with the same thing (Take Off Your Pants) but are making fun of themselves with it. Entirely different dynamic. Fred doesn't earn his self-pity anger on this album, but the energy and music work if you're just singing it by yourself. Entirely engaging.
It's a very melodic rap record, which leads me to wonder if it's actually a rap record... Still really good.
OK, I'm only about halfway through, and two things immediately come to mind. First, I'm surprised at how much I'm enjoying this, I've never listened to these guys at all, really, other than random hearing of their bigger hits. That said, I like industrial (Ministry, KMFDM, Front 242) and I like rap (Beastie Boys, Digable Planets, Tribe) and I'm not scared of noise (Swans) and so this is kind of great. Second, I am blown away -- amazed -- to hear there is a "clean" version of this album. What the hell?!? I am just going to have to check that out, as the level of profanity in this record is off the chart. The album runs a bit long and some of the tail end of it is rather meh, but overall still surprised and impressed that I enjoyed it as much as I did.
it was fire but i hate the album cover.
Refreshingly heavy yet melodic album