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The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady

Charles Mingus

1963

The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady

Album Summary

The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady is a studio album by American jazz double bassist, composer, and bandleader Charles Mingus. It was recorded on January 20, 1963, and released in July of that year by Impulse! Records. The album consists of a single continuous composition—partially written as a ballet—divided into four tracks and six movements.

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Rating

3.33

Votes

4788

Genres

  • Jazz
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Mingus? Dingus more like. This made my day worse.

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I can’t claim to know much about jazz at all. Especially not avant-garde, experimental jazz like this. But I loved this album so much. It’s an album where you just give yourself over to the way the music feels. It teases you with a reprise that you think you’re familiar with, then beats you round the head with a horn section for getting too comfortable. It has moments of delicacy and beauty, and of utter stormy cacophonous noise. Putting aside the stories about Mingus (aggressive, violent bugger, essentially) it feels like these people are all playing for their lives. Quite a thing to behold

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5

A wonderful artistic expression. It takes you away from any thought or emotion and shows you whatever you need to feel within that small musically accompanied moment. It's absolutely incredible

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5

This is like as archetypal as experimental jazz gets. Wildly changing time signatures, multiple keys soloing at the same time, crazy studio editing tricks to make it sound even more cacophonous (that flamenco guitar section though). This is one of those records that sounds like it could soundtrack On The Road or something. One of Mingus’ best. Favorite Track: Track-C Group Dancers “(Soul Fusion) Freewoman and Oh, This Freedom's Slave Cries” Least Favorite Track: Track-A Solo Dancers "Stop! Look! And Listen, Sinner Jim Whitney!" (If I had to pick one)

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5

A great expression of free jazz, the emotion and passion that Mingus gets into his albums is almost unrivaled to me.

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5

Personally, this is a top 3 jazz album OF ALL TIME. It's dark, unsettling, both fitting of the past and the future. Mingus had been no stranger to aggressive or dark music prior, but goddamn this record takes it to a new level. Required listening for any self-proclaimed fan of jazz. Cannot praise enough.

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5

I really loved this. It had elements of minimalism, with long sustained ostinatos, almost droning. The tempo and meter shifts were surprising. For a jazz album, there weren't as many solos as I would expect, but they were interesting.

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5

For me, this is the absolute pinnacle of Third Stream, and Mingus’s greatest masterwork.

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5

Very cool and very interesting organized chaos. I’m relatively familiar with other works by the angry man of jazz, but I had never actually heard this album before. The mixing and organization behind every piece on the album (especially from a pre-stereo view when the album was made) is incredible and shows that deep thought was given to the somewhat avat garde compositions. Also, the shear amount of different instruments on this album is also impressive-it feels like I’m hearing a different horn or woodwind every second-with the Piano always acting as a sort of anchor. And then a guitar shows up out of nowhere! What the fuck! Side 2 of the record (song 4) is easily the blending off all things good and unique. It’s definitely not for everyone, but if you like big band, jazz, or classical music I’d def give this one a listen.

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5

It's been a while since I binge-listened to most of the Mingus discography. I'd forgotten just how good this masterpiece is. It takes the legacies of blues and swing, distils it into wild avant-garde big band jazz, and triple-filters the liquor through classical, folk dance and Spanish guitar. It's a mind-melting achievement, which sounds incredibly fresh and urgent and unique, even after decades of being a widely celebrated record. I love how the ferocious energy bubbles up into different sounds, then a lid goes on temporarily. The ups and downs give it a narrative structure - not that it tells me a story, but that you feel it taking the shape of a progressing narrative. But honestly, I'm making it sound academic and boring, when it is actually an energising rollercoaster. 5*

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5

So many things come to mind when hearing this album. It sounds like a party gone mad. It sounds like the music is ready to fall apart at any moment but somehow still holds together. It sounds like it could be the soundtrack to some bawdy film noir. Then throughout there's moments of utter peace and beauty. I would say there isn't a jazz album like it but that's too obvious. Is it even a jazz album? There's the problem with labels. It has to be categorized somehow so that it can be placed in the appropriate section in the record bins. Very few jazz albums also feature both a Tuba and a Classical Guitar (that would be bonus points if it already didn't deserve its 5 stars but the music already accomplished that) This review could go on for a while if I went into everything that went through my mind when listening to it instead of just touching on the broad ideas in the first paragraph. It's been a few years since I put this on and I had to listen to it twice and want to put it on yet again. Thank you Mingus!

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4

The perfect balance between melody and noise. 7/10 FT: Track C

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Killer album. I love the low end, Bass, Tuba, Bari Sax. Just the wide variety of instruments all coming together for such a beautiful piece.

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4

This touched my thought while my world's affluence crumbled at his feet.

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I like jazz music, but for no good reason, I don't listen to it so frequently. This album is a good remember that I need to listen to it more and more. An excellent album for all days.

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I'm an absolutely massive swing-era jazz fan --I love swing dancing-- but as jazz moved away from the swing era to bebop, modal, and other genres I kinda lose interest since it just isn't for me. Nonetheless, I found this album did work for me, even if it's a bit more experimental, although I don't see myself returning to it any time soon. Solid jazz played by solid musicians.

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I am not @ good judge of jazz or a jazz man at all. Not like I hated it, but wouldn't listen again

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To anyone that says, "I don't like jazz", I'd say, "You aren't listening to the right jazz for you then." Jazz is like a therapist -very personal and you may have to try a lot of it before you find the right jazz for you :) <> People on tv who liked jazz were portrayed as pretentious and the jazz they played in movies for those people was like listening to "Free Bird"'s guitar solo on repeat a bajillion times aka not for me AND THEN, Rachael played me a song or two on a most unforgettable road trip. It was big band music and it was stuff I had heard without knowing it (Thanks, Tom & Jerry). I immediately bought the Ken Burns Jazz 5-cd set and wore it out. <> Mingus looks like Bunk from The Wire - who wouldn't like that? ;-) <> Listening to this album, the 40 min flew by so I'd say I liked it as I search for Ken Burns collection on spotify...

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Saved Prior: None Saved Off Rip: None Cutting Edge: None Overall Notes: Yes that was in fact jazz. Don't know enough about jazz to really understand what makes good jazz and what doesn't. Sounded pretty good to me, but also sounded like good ol' jazz.

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I can't. I feel like there's some 'emperor's new clothes' thing going on with jazz like this. Like, don't they see he's wearing nothing?! I keep waiting for that eureka moment when I might understand it a little, but it has yet to come. The noise almost hurts my brain, it's overbearing, dissonant, disturbing. Maybe that's the point. I don't get it.

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5

JAZZ!

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5

Usually hit Tijuana Moods or Mingus Ah Um, but damn this record rules.

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Fantástico

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jazzy

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5

Odlican album, veoma interesantan i osvezavajuci. 9/10

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5

My only other jazz listening experience is with Monk and I gotta say Mingus feels more fluid and easier to engage with thus far. I still put Monk Live in Tokyo at the top of my list but this album is a banger.

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5

v nice jazz

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5

Fantastic album, very fresh

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A 5. An unqualified masterpiece. It's just so damn good.

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dirty sexy rollercoaster

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5

This was a great jazz album, and I'm definitely going to look into more albums by Mingus (note to self: Wikipedia says "Mingus Ah Um" is his other masterpiece).

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5

right down my ally

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5

What can be said about this album that hasn’t been said already? It’s a perfect album. 5 stars. Just beautiful, lively, haunting, full of emotion. Recorded beautifully.

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5

Wow, I loved listening to this. Interesting to have 2 jazz albums so close together. I greatly prefer this style to Kind of Blue, personally.

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5

superb - already want to listen to this again with a proper sit down

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Really good! Listened to while working out. A bop. 5/5

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Put it on and listen. Masterpiece.

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Mingus: jesucristo.

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I enjoyed it

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First time listening: 4/4 songs liked Now, this album is a jazz trip for sure. Didn't ideas melding together in its cohesive titles and movements, this one is way more efficient in its use of length despite its only 4 song repertoire. Wouldn't save any songs, but it's definitely worth a listen. No songs saved

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5

Great Jazz, a great listen

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5

I'm listening to this as the only person in my office on a Friday that is gray and rainy out. This, album is perfect and its impossible to pause or walk away from it once you start it. It's hard to pick a favorite track, but that closing medley is a hell of a tune.

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5

Basically the perfect Jazz album. Technical.

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5

Wild and adventurous.

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5

excellent! but I am biased towards this genre of jazz.

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5

Incredible. What a journey - through a city, through a mind. Not \"listen to it in the background\" music.

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5

Holy shit, two jazz albums in a row! While I liked the Keith Jarrett album I got yesterday, I fucking love Mingus. His songs just pack so much furious energy into every measure. Captivating from beginning to end 5/5

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4.5 | Hace muchos años aprendí qué son los Ostinatos en la música gracias a este disco. Solo hay realmente dos discos de Charles Mingus así que supongo que el otro no estará aquí. En mi opinión este es mejor, es su obra mejor lograda, tiene un sentido entero, dirección y un fondo conceptual sólido. El problema puede ser que llega a ser demasiado densa y si no se tiene conocimiento de las notas que acompañan al album puede parecer un monton de música improvisada sin sentido, a pesar de todo creo que incluso cuando no se lee el acompañamiento se puede sentir la calidad de música, la prevalencia obviamente de ese contrabajo y por supuesto la parte que creo es más famosona, cuando todo se vuelve una guitarra española por un instante. Si lo comparamos con Bitches Brew por ejemplo, tenemos un disco que por muchos años le gana a Miles, se siente menos experimental en algunos aspectos, menos "free flow" que el otro, pero muchísimo más denso y con contenido. Entendible a quien no le agrade, en realidad es un disco que exige atención y el tiempo pero que repaga con creces.

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5

Debauched jazz; runs the gamut of emotions while being sonically perfect. Fuckin a.

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5

Got just about everything right. I’ll be coming back to this. 10/10

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5

I had a viscerally negative reaction to this album on first listen. Discord. Chaos. Any time I found myself enjoying it, these intruded. I started writing up a very negative review while listening for a second time, debating whether to give it 1 or 2 stars. At the same time, I started reading up about the background and intentions of the album. About Mingus' life, his anger, his experiences with racism, his illness and death. I found myself appreciating Side 2 (Modes D - F). It still had much of the discord and chaos that was making me uncomfortable, but I could at least appreciate the mastery and composition and the moods it was meant to evoke. I went back to the beginning of the album, closely listening with new ears and started to recognize why this is considered a jazz masterpiece. By the time I returned to Modes D - F, now truly focused on the music, I was blown away. This is a challenging album and clearly isn't background music like so much jazz - it demands attention. It demands struggle. It's worth it and I stand corrected.

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5

This is dope 🎺👌

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Loved this record!

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magnificent, ambitious and mystical

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amazing wow

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Stunning

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This was a rather dramatic soundtrack to my rather ordinary day. Evocative and cinematic, this album tells a story, going from smoky and sultry to mildly frenetic to romantic to grandly theatrical in a short 39 minutes. Not all jazz does it for me but this sure does. Love it.

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5

This was pretty amazing. Very different from the usual collection of songs. It was absolutely jazz, but it really felt like listening to a classical composition with its length, movements, and unity. I sometimes struggle with recorded musical improvisation (not so when it's a live performance), but I never felt that with this work. A lot of recorded jazz sounds tedious to me, but this never did. I think being presented as a unified work actually made it more listenable as it progressed from movement to movement, repeating melodies here and there, and introducing Spanish guitar when it was ready for it. It's hard to compare this to a pop collection of songs. This felt a little more work to listen to, but it was really good, enjoyable work, and I so appreciated the opportunity to experience it.

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5

Not Mingus's best album, but still an easy five stars.

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5

Stunning. Heavy. The best album recommended to me so far.

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Perfect.

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Now that's what I call jazz.

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5

versatile, storytelling jazz.

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5

Stunning. Unlike anything I’ve heard before. Completely absorbing. Such depth, such intensity, such reshaping of the world through music. Towering achievement.

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5

Reminded me of ‘Kind of Blue’. Definitely one to revisit.

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5

One of the best albums of Mingus - not much too add, other than this is a great album.

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A high point in jazz music

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I find jazz a mite tricky to write about, an issue I suspect I share with many. How do you dissect it entertainingly without either splatterings of empty words conveying the square root of sod all or acres of minutiae about unorthodox time signatures and tonal clusters that also convey the square root of sod all? Can you just write "it sounds nice" or "it sounds bad"? Anyway, this sounds nice. By "nice" I mean bold, intricate, formidable and singular. Of course, with such an experimental piece as this, the listener is required to be open-minded, but that also implies that it's rather your fault if you don't get this. I'm happy with that conclusion.

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This album is stunning, a jazz masterpiece in everything that made jazz unique in the early 1960s - a single composition that stars almost like a ballet and evolves to become very experimental, with an eleven piece big band working in full synergy to deliver something unique, with a beautiful orchestration. Mingus' piano sounds amazing, and his double bass is also out of this world. There's nothing like The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady.

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5

So energetic and vital, really lifted my spirits. More like this please.

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I think this is now one of the best jazz album I've ever heard. The arrangements are incredibly brilliant and ahead of their time. The sounds of each instrument are used in an original and unexpected way. I want this album on vinyl now.

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Those orchestrations are miraculous. No one sounds like Mingus and his blend of experimental big band, classical music and the so-called world music. Most importantly, he kept pushing the jazz genre forward while still bopping hard. This album is a testament to his genius.

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This is one of my favorite jazz albums. Mingus here is at the top of his game, experimenting and innovating. It is a total ride.

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I've never really enjoyed Jazz, but this kept drawing me back with interesting rhythms and sounds and phrases.

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5

slapper of the highest order, first song is madness

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As expected, Mingus took me on a journey. Some good places, others pretty dark. The musicianship on display here is amazing in ways I would struggle to express, so I'll take an easy cop-out and just give it five stars.

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An absolutely amazing jazz standard. There is so much going on - just melodies weaving in and out of each other. Absolute classic

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Beautiful!

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5

Latin music really turns the elevator-ish jazz into an explosive monster. I felt every note in this album. The struggles and build-up of the drums, the wailing of the violins, the Tom and Jerry-ish flow of the wind instruments... All of these sound so chaotic and human. And because of that, every second of this is such an adventure. That's the epitome of a musical experience. This is probably how jazz sounds to jazz fans. Not a boring, lengthy musical fiddling but an experience beyond words. I'm not a big fan of jazz, but I freaking love this bad boy.

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Yes!

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The 60's were a wild time to be a part of the jazz scene. Bebop, established in the 40's out of necessity to contrast the big band boys, had grown into hard bop in the 50's with an influence of blues melodies. Then the 60's came around and we can see the need to break down the walls of conventional jazz rules, a way to start reinventing the genre; Charles Mingus has always been at the forefront of this. Mingus plays by his own definitions of jazz along with Ornette Coleman (not featured on this list) to bring a new experience to listeners. The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady is a crowning achievement of Mingus and Avant-garde jazz as a whole. It's theatrical, progressive, and beautiful all in one package. Truth be told, this is an album that should be wholly experienced, with art and liner notes. Additional, this is a successful blend of jazz and classical that is never boring or excessive. I don't know how else to talk about it other than encouraging you to really listen, with more than just your ears, and visualize this album to the best of your ability.

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I feel supremely unqualified to comment on any jazz album's quality relative to another's, but I will say that out of all the jazz I've listened to for this project (including Bitches Brew and Kind of Blue, among others), this is by far the most interesting. It's innovative in all the right ways and it sounds like more than just a music theory exercise. Plus they included a contrabass trombone! Who the hell does that? An unexpected joy. Best track: Track C - Group Dancers [(Soul Fusion) Freewoman and Oh, This Freedom's Slave Cries]

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5

I think this is awesome music and should be required listening. I don't know how Mingus was able to pull off the combination of styles with a free jazz vibe, but he did. At times it sounds like a soundtrack, at times an avant-garde troupe playing live. A magnificent suite.

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5

Just the best jazz album ever

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Great morning album especially the 18minute ending tune

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Reminded me why I love good jazz.

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5

Mingus is one of the greatest bandleaders in jazz. This album is a multi part song cycle that borrows from jazz, classical, Latin, and African music. It is at times more accessible and more abstract at others. Structured loosely as a ballet, this album remineded me somewhat of Stravinsky's Rite of Spring. This is one of those pieces of music that transcends genre and will stand as a work of genius.

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Un classique. Comment combiner des arrangements hyper riches avec des trippes et un jeu super organique. On joue avec les dynamiques, les tempos et tout ce qui est possible. L’album ne sert pas à mettre en valeur la contrebasse, mais la musique. Superbe !

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jazzao muito massa aham

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5

Beautifully chaotic. Went straight out and found another album of his to listen to.

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5

Really great

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5

I like the part where it goes doot doot

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5

So good, how have I not come across this album before now? I like jazz but don't listen to it regularly, electro wins out generally for me. Still have listened to Mingus before. Never heard Mingus like this though. Gorgeous. One for the repeat list, makes me wish I had it on vinyl (and a vinyl player, AND room for one!).

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5

A great classic!

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Changed my life

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grande charles

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Big saxophone guy and this album is full of it!

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4

First Mingus album i listened to and still really good on the relisten. This shit drips

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4

Really liked this. Some of the only jazz I've ever enjoyed.

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reminds me of whiplash; not terrible, but wouldn't listen to it to often, but i think in the context of james acaster's influence on me i do like it quite a lot

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4

Havent heard this mingus release, it was incredible.

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Nice and jazzy

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I have already heard this album and it is a very good album indeed

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What about me?

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Fantastic jazz album. Varied, virtuosic, easy-listening.

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4

The first item in this project not pretty solidly under the pop tent? I liked listening to it.

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4

Amazing jazz full of energy, just the right length too. I got a little tired of jazz by the very end lol

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I liked it, but don't think I'm qualified to say any more than that. Seemed like jazz of an experimental nature.

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I liked this, I suspect recently watching SOUL may have influenced my decision.

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I've never quite heard anything like this, and I've listened to a lot of Jazz. It's amazing how Jazz can be so varied. This also shouldn't factor into my rating, but the cover photo of Mingus is 100% Grade-A badass.

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Más jazz interesante. 4 temas, 2 por cada cara del vinilo, y casi 40 minutos de música pensada para la danza como indican los propios nombres de pista.

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It’s jazz!

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4

Amazing. His 'Blues & Roots' is my favourite jazz record of all time, but this is up there.

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4

This is a landmark free jazz album, simply brilliant musicianship and improvisation, very different from Ah Um but still very good

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4

Nice vibes!!! I'm not really used to listening to jazz so sometimes was a bit difficult to me to carry on, but had a really nice time. I should listen to it more! It's brilliant!

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4

Good work focus music

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4

Not my taste but it sure is masterful.

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Murzynski swiety i grzeszna pannica jest to chyba jeden z najbardziej popularnych materialow Mingusa, czyli najbardziej wkurwionego jazzowego grajka w historii, nie bez przyczyny mowi sie wkurzony jak mingus, ktory potrafil na scenie pogruchotac swego basa tylko dlatego, ze wsrod publicznosci znalazly sie osoby ktore utrudnialy wystep, wynika to pewnie z perferkcjonizmu muzycznego do jakiego dazyl mingus, nie byl on tylko muzykiem, ale przede wszystkim kompozytorem oraz liderem bigbandowym, cos jak byciedyrygent i kompozytor w jednym, wiec sam albumik jest 39 minutowa kompozycja, ktora z zalozenia miala byc baletem, stad nazwy trakow A B C, solo dancowanie, duo, grupy, zagrany w 11 osobowym bandzie, zastanawia mnie jak mozna dojsc do tworzenia perfekcyjnych improwizacji bebopowych rozpisanych niczym symfonie, podczas nagrywania overdub musial byc mocno uzywany, ale granie nadal ma w sobie to cos co sprawia, ze mzyka wydaje sie byc zywa, bopowe zmiany tempa na 11 grajow, wut, wsrod skladu bandowego kojarze tylko 2 nazwiska Byarda od klawiszy oraz Richardsona od fletowania, ale po przesluchania bede musial sprawdzic Wiliamsa od trabkowania, glownie za ostatni track na plycie, ciezko wybrac co wrzucic na plejke, wiec wrzucam calosc, bo niezbyt czesto jakie jazzowania sie na 1001 albumiarzu pojawiaja

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no sé nada de jazz.... k sé yo, un 4.

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This was chillen

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4

Really enjoyable Jazz/Blues experience unlike most others i'd had!

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groovy as all hell

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Pretty good, definitely in my area of jazz that I can enjoy. Solid background music with some intense portions. Kind of hilarious that the review on the blog highlights "don't expect to get anything else done while listening, this is as far from background music as it gets." Guess I completely missed that part.

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Am Anfang Zuviel big band aber dann wirklich virtuos mit den spanischen gitarrenelementen wie ein anspruchsvolles Western ballet

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4

Not as memorable as kind of blue or love supreme, but nice for sure.

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Very enjoyable. Orchestral jazz. Often steady bass, drums, strings, and brass rhythms underlay with lively trumpet and piano overlay with periods of all-in exuberance. There is a lot to pay attention to. Short album (40 minutes), but you pick up more when you listen to it again (and again!).

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4

Interesting - at times smooth, sultry, dissonant , languid, frenetic. The blend of styles in the highlighted track (big band -> flamenco) is great.

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Really well put together Jazz, enjoyed this one.

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Wish I had more to say. It's really good.

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this sum jazz, wowee, I def prefer big band stuff but this is pretty good

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https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2010/sep/03/charles-mingus-black-saint

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4

sick jazz tunes 🎶

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One of the great jazz records.

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Well, now, that was certainly interesting! At times, it gets a bit chaotic for my listening, but I have a feeling upon multiple listens it starts to make more "sense" (yeah, yeah, I know: music -- especially jazz -- never needs to make sense...I'm talking about making sense to me in my experience of it and relation to it). Regardless, it's a wild ride and there's a LOT going on. I'll need to hear more of his work.

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Really enjoyed listening to this. I appreciate the viewpoint that some of the instrumentation didn't 'mesh', but for me, it worked overall.

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Raw stuff, on the higher end of the Jazz spectrum, the only thing keeping it from a five was the sonic wall at the end that was absolutely exhausting to listen to for that long

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Rating: 7/10

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Very good jazz, fire

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Uuh, meni täydestä torstaiaamuna kahvia juodessa sohvalla. Jätti hyvän fiiliksen ja päivä voi starttaa!

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Очень экспрессивно и множество диссонансов создают очень необычную атмосферу, за которую так любят джазовые джемы.

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Not my genre so hard to judge, but I like what I heard.

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3.5 que sube a 4. La cosa con el jazz es que hay muchísimo que oír y no todo es para todos. Creo que este es el tipo de jazz que me puede gustar en ciertas situaciones y más como de fondo. Aunque entonces no prestas suficiente atención a la abundancia de detalles y calidad que tiene la ejecución. Por otro lado, este tipo de jazz me es cansado para oír con toda mi atención, tal vez también por la abundancia de detalles. Creo que el punto que más me gustó fueron esos momentos en los que entra una guitarra y trompetas con sonido español, la calidad de los metales, y (concentrándome para oírlo con claridad) el doble bajo de Mingus.

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Remarkable, emotional and uplifting. An amazing album that keeps surprising. The ending is a bit too much though.

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Listened in the car. I'm not sure it was actually this album since Spotify seems to be bugged but...it was nice.

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8/10. Jazzy and good.

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8/10

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Amazing jazz concept album. The idea behind it was to write the album as if it was a ballet and I can absolutelly hear that. It's not an easy listen but very much well worth the time.

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So, it's funny we listened to this after the Brubeck album. Whereas the Brubeck album seems very clean and prepared, this is very experimental and out there. I know that's what Mingus was going for, but that last track, man... wow. It is definitely something I was not prepared for. I heard a lot of interesting things which, I think, with a number of listens, will go into something rewarding. But on the first listen or two, I can see people saying "what is this?" It reminded me a bit of early Zappa, very free-flowing. I liked what was there, but it's definitely not "safe" jazz. This is some dangerous, out there material. Definitely something that you have to listen to a few times to "get."

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8/10

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I dont really feel "qualified" to judge this album as I've never been a big jazz guy. However I know what I like, and I like this.i will definitely come back to this one again.

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This one is tough for me to rate, as I have very little experience with jazz. Going in I knew I was really out of my element here and ill-equipped to understand (let alone rate!) an album like this. The first time through I pretty much tried to get my bearings. It was clear that I was listening to some really talented musicians who were really putting it out there. I loved the low saxes, muted trumpets, tinkly piano even though I was often unsure and at times uncomfortable with what was happening musically. But even on that first listen my novice ears found moments of delight, like when the Spanish guitar would jump in. I listened to this a few more times and on each listen I had moments where I was having flashes of just flowing along with the music. A few times this occurred during the cacophonious passages and suddenly something highly structured surfaced and felt like a revelation. I shouldn't be surprised that listening to my first orchestral jazz album is challenging. This isn't an album I could expect to play in the background or even relax to right now... I still have a lot of work to do first. I've added this to my music library as an aspirational act in the hopes that I will do more work on this album and with jazz in general. Rounding this one up to a 4 although I'm hoping some future version of me will want to change it to a 5.

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I have certainly heard of Charles Mingus before, but I am not aware of being familiar with any of his music specifically. This is not generally a type of music that I enjoy, and I found this album within my range of listenable. I found the tracks theatrical. I can imagine dancers on a stage conveying a story as I listen. There were some stretches when I didn't appreciate the sounds of the story, but then it would bring me back. So, I have respect for what is happening on this album, but it won't go on into my everyday-listening rotation.

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Groovy

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good one !

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Massive energy throughout, still sounds innovative, full of positivity and dynamics. Fabulous

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Liked this. Good background music for work but was also interesting enough to keep me entertained. Might be something I would listen to again.

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really good, love the inclusion of a guitar

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Reviewing as mostly a jazz novice, I like this quite a bit. I briefly studied Mingus in college and enjoy instrumental jazz infinitely more than vocal - this has an interesting continuity to it, definitely worthy as a full-album listen rather than any one of the tracks by themselves. The only part I don't love personally is the flamenco-ish parts in the final suite - it's just not a favourite style for me - but musically it's still impressive how the band can transition from one section and one genre to another so well. Funny note at 5:25 of the final cut, listen for someone (Mingus?) yelling "goddamnit" in the right channel :D 8/10 4 stars

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Molto affascinante e sperimentale. Mi piace.

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4

Who doesn’t love some absolutely fire classic jazz?

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Some unusual jazz, will definitely be revisiting this one

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Wild, shifting time signatures that sway back and forth all over the place. An abrasive clash of styles and emotion on an album that is edgy and sprawling, but one that majorly swings and is sleazy as fuck.

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Very interesting jazz. 8/10

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Azong jazz album. Honestly it did feel a bit busy but the more I focused on individual instruments the more I enjoyed it

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Mingus on aina hyvä, ei siinä sen kummempaa.

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Väkevä! 4/5

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Nalla vill inte ha sås, noll A1

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Good soup

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A woozy opus.

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I know the name but have never listened to any of his stuff. Never heard this before but it's really nice. I'm always slightly amazed at how crisp and clear all the instruments sound in the classic jazz albums. On first listening, 4 stars, but could be higher with more time

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Ok

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I like it. I feel like any good Jazz is almost always at least a 4 for me. I especially liked Track B where it sounded like he was almost singing through the horn while also playing it, very cool effect.

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Great jazz, by great jazz man

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I was peer pressured to give it a 4

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From the first few notes, I knew I would like this album. Great jazz sound. Cacophony broken by melody.

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4.75

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Frantic. A very dark, cacophonous record. I appreciate the one brief reprieve of the flutes, but the addition of the flamenco guitar was a little jarring. Intense. Favorite track: "Group Dancers"

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Nice, I love short big sounding jazz

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I like this!

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I think I like this. One of the more early takes on creating art out of music outside of classical, and it ended up being very enjoyable. Chaotic, but good. Favourites: "Solo Dancer", "Duete Solo Dancers"

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This is dramatic, fire jazz. Playing on disruption, it throws me about, shifting tempo and style. Sometimes gentle, but never languid, and then a full acoustic assault, broke with moments of flamenco. Not what I expected, sometimes uncomfortable, always genius.

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A little too free for my taste, but still a great time.

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Jaaazzzzzzz. Men inte den jazz du vill ha i bakgrunden under en vinig middag på en rökig bar. Den sorts jazz som tar sig in på djupet och påverkar allt omkring dig. Avantgardistisk jazz som stressar upp dig för att sedan lugna ned dig, i nästa ögonblick förvirra dig när latinamerikanska gitarrer kommer in från vänster, och som slutligen får dig att vilja explodera av känslor och intryck när trumpeterna trummorna basen ökar ökar ökar tills det inte finns någonstans att ta vägen. Fantastiskt.

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Enjoyable random jazz squawkings. Some really cool stuff, and you can see where a lot of prog bands were ripping stuff off.

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Challenging but still pleasurable. Ellingtonian in a good way, though darker and more discordant, and maybe outright sexier, too.

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Niestety miałem okazję przesłuchać tylko raz, a zdecydowanie powinno sie wielokrotnie, żeby docenić dowolny album jazzowy. Wydawał się agresywny i dość chaotyczny, ale nie gubił. Dodatkowo wstawki i licki to w mojej opinii definicja stank jazzu.

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Well, it's an album requiring a correct attitude from the listener. First time I played it as a background to work and it felt tiring, screechy, loud, cacophonic. Second time I gave all my attention to music, and it was absolutely worth it. Beautiful melodies, calm passages combined with virtuosity and stellar performance of all artists. Magnificent.

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This makes me understand why people enjoy Charles Mingus so much and is often listed as so influential.

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A powerful and sublime piece of music. Pushes the boundaries of jazz

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Took a while to hit its groove but really interesting, fantastic musicianship.

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As always with Mingus, interesting from beginning to end.

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Wow! How to include just about every prior genre in one piece: classical, jazz, big band and blues. Chordant, discordant, soft then jarring it's a rollercoaster ride. It's difficult to judge. Should it even be here? There are some other instrumental, classical-led albums and electronic albums so I guess so.

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Soulful and clangy, like jazz should be.

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Wild and smooth, Mingus defines latter-day jazz for Miles Davis and John Coltrane.

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Jazz

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3.6⭐️

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That last suite is incredible on here and is my favorite out of everything on here. It has a mix of chaos, cartoonish devilishness, and a knack for silence. That said, everything else feels like a lead-up to that grand statement of this record.

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Transcendent.

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