Selling England by the Pound is the fifth studio album by the English progressive rock band Genesis, released in October 1973 on Charisma Records. It reached No. 3 in the United Kingdom and No. 70 in the United States. A single from the album, "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)", was released in February 1974 and became the band's first top 30 hit in the UK.
The album was recorded in August 1973 following the tour supporting the previous album, Foxtrot (1972). The group set aside a short period of time to write new material, which covered a number of themes, including the loss of English folk culture and an increased American influence, which was reflected in the title. Following the album's release, the group set out on tour, where they drew an enthusiastic reception from fans.
Critics and the band themselves have given mixed opinions of the album, though guitarist Steve Hackett has said it is his favourite Genesis record. The album has continued to sell and has reached Gold certification by the British Phonographic Industry and the Recording Industry Association of America. It was remastered for CD in 1994 and 2007. Several of the album tracks became fan favourites and featured as a regular part of the band's live setlist into the 1980s.
This is a tough one for me. Not the rating - that's a five, easy. It's tough because I'm trying to listen to this the same way I'm listening to the other 1001 albums, even though I'm a huge fan and I've listened to this album easily 100 times. But, when I think back to my original impressions, I found early Genesis difficult to get into, unlike other early prog bands like King Crimson and Yes. There always seemed to be something a little "off" about early Genesis. They'd mix a surprisingly hard edge with songs that referred to things like "unifauns" and "lily fair." Or, some of the sounds are dated: Hackett's guitar often sounds muffled to me and some of the synth sounds are dated. But their music is the proverbial onion...peel it back and you find layer upon layer (it doesn't make me cry, but there are moments like the middle of Steve Hackett's solo in Firth of Fifth that always give me chills. Their album Foxtrot is not in the 1001 albums or I'd be saying the same about the end of Supper's Ready. Heck, I'd be writing a book about Supper's Ready). What's more is this music is many times better live than recorded. I've seen latter day Genesis play the instrumental parts of Firth of Fifth and Cinema Show. I've seen Steve Hackett and his band play many of these songs. Both are amazing. For a more "historic" version, go see the cover band "The Musical Box" who play an amazing version of the early band that even the band members acknowledge is authentic. So, my listen of this album is colored by my knowledge of just how good it CAN sound.
The fact is: this music is amazing. Firth of Fifth is a rock symphony with one of my favorite melodic guitar solos of all time. Dancing with the Moonlit Knight starts with Peter Gabriel a capella and turns into a musical tour de force around 2:25 (listen for Steve Hackett's tapping solo, something he was doing years before Eddie Van Halen made it famous). Listen to Phil Collins' drumming throughout the album - while most people know him from the 80s (with most thinking of the gated reverb fill from In the Air Tonight), this album showcases why he was one of the most in demand session drummers of the 70s and 80s. The man is doing 50 things at once and if you've ever seen video of him playing, you know he looks relaxed as can be. Mike Rutherford lays down backing guitars and excellent driving bass lines throughout much of the album. And then there's Tony Banks, the man who later sticks to "happy chords" and "sad chords" droning over simple hit songs. Listen to his keyboard playing on this album and other early Genesis albums. His solo at the end of The Cinema Show mixes the best of melody and speed and shows he belongs in the conversation of "who is the best prog keyboardist?" Other great examples - everything he plays on Firth of Fifth, the keyboards in Supper's Ready and Watcher of the Skies (sorry, annoyed that Foxtrot isn't in the 1001). For me, the main weak spot on this album is The Battle of Epping Forest. Even after all those listens it still doesn't do much for me, plus it's too long (I don't have a problem with long songs...again, I wish I could write about Supper's Ready!).
Bottom line, this is an outstanding band at its best. After one more album, they lose Peter Gabriel. Two more albums after that, they lose Steve Hackett. Then the band starts to become the Genesis most people know. Don't get me wrong - I like that Genesis also. But this Genesis was a prog giant. To those listening to this for the first time, keep listening and unpeel this onion. It's worth it.
Peter Gabriel, Phil Collins, and a slew of Hall-of-Fame-worthy musicians in the prog band that launched them all to stardom produced a singularly weird and schizophrenic record even for prog. From track one, this thing is a wandering mess. Maybe that's why I found myself mostly ignoring it. The lack of a consistent through-line within a single song made my brain just sort of shut off.
Have you ever wondered what would happen if Peter Gabriel read the Canterbury Tales and T.S. Eliot over and over? Prog Rock. Prog rock happens.
Why do I love prog rock so much? Is it how it feels cinematic? Like there's a camera panning around an open vista in your mind. Is it the wizards? The offbeat references and inscrutable lyrics?
All I know is that this is gorgeous. Plus you can never go wrong with Peter Gabriel, Phil Collins (whose drumming is legend tier and essential to this album's flow) and Mike "and the mechanics" Rutherford.
These guys are no damn joke. It's not often a supergroup exists before any of its members become famous.
I might just need to listen to more genesis.
So here's the thing... After about 2 minutes of the opening track, I was convinced this would be a 1. It was so annoying and pompous and self-important, and this did continue throughout the album. But, despite Peter Gabriel doing my head in for the full hour, everything else was admittedly pretty damn good. The drums were interesting, there's lot going on instrumentally and dynamically, and the songs move through various interesting and versatile sections. I feel anything below a 2 or lower would be unfair on that side of things, but to be honest, the lyrics and posturing annoyed me enough that this 3 feels generous in some respect. Still, props to the rest of the band for pulling it out of the bag - there is some genuinely great stuff here. It's just a shame it's so oversaturated
I have a real soft spot for this kind of wanky 70s prog. It's overblown, nerdy and insists upon itself but somehow rather than hate it I absolutely love it. Could listen to this style all day in the background at work (and have many times). Actually, I'll probably spend the rest of the day listening to prog. 5/5.
Between the unifaun’s opening plea and the “English ribs of beef” fade-out, it’s become impossible for me to look at this one objectively. It’s been a favourite for many years, since before I’d heard 95% of albums on this list and knew who many of the most popular artists were. So it’s interesting reading people’s thoughts upon hearing it for the first time in this kind of context, between Fugees, Nirvana and Radiohead. “What is the not-Phil one bleating on about?” “Did they honestly think those synth patches wouldn’t date by 2022?” “Does Tony Banks have to be so unbearably middle-class to open “Firth of Fifth” wanking out a classical piano piece?” “And why does it all have to be so ball-achingly long?”
I’m so familiar with “Selling England by the Pound” that none of its ridiculous proggy nonsense feels jarring, strange, corny or ham-fisted. Every switch to an odd time signature, every lyric referencing medieval England, Greek mythology, 70s supermarkets or Epping Forest, every abrupt tempo change or indulgent solo, feels as natural and comfortable as it remains bold and exciting. This album feels like home.
Four monster tracks trade places with (relatively) short interludes as the album unfolds. “Dancing with the Moonlit Knight” is prog-rock wizardry distilled: everything about it works perfectly and the modulation to major key during the guitar solo is icing on the cake. “I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)” is catchy sing-along joy. “More Fool Me”, which I used to write off as the Phil Collins pop throwaway, is a graceful palate cleanser between epics. “The Battle of Epping Forest”, which most of the band disliked for having too many wordy lyrics crowbarred in, is a tour de force of storytelling, rich with detail, character and humour (the “Reverend” section alone is worth the price of admission). And “The Cinema Show” just keeps getting more and more orgasmic with every new phrase in its behemoth keyboard solo.
Musically, it’s a masterclass in almost every instrument. Guitarists should study Hackett’s smooth, melodic and dramatic guitar solos (flashy tapping when the song requires it, but all taste, style and grace in the instrumental “After the Ordeal”). Vocalists (and pantomime performers) should revel in Gabriel’s theatrical delivery. Keyboard players have the “Firth of Fifth” intro and the breathtaking “Cinema Show” solo to practice for the rest of their lives. Bassists and drummers should listen to… all of it. A perfect rhythm section.
But while the technique is there, it’s in no way a substitute for soul, passion or emotion. Hackett’s wailing, bombastic reprise of the flute in “Firth of Fifth”. Gabriel’s isolated vocal at the opening, increasing in gravity over the next couple of verses. Once again, the light and shade in “The Cinema Show”’s solo (yes, yes, it’s one of my favourite bits).
There’s so much to unpack, but those who make the effort will be rewarded with an evergreen symphony of sound. I tried as hard as I could to listen with fresh ears, imagining how “Selling England by the Pound” might sound if I’d been brought up on punk, new wave or pop. I was still thrilled by it: either I’m biased or it really is one of the best of all time.
Firth of Fifth has to be one of the best prog rock songs of all time. Now listening to the entire album for the first time in quite a while, I can confirm again it is brilliant from start to finish.
First off the opener at around 1:20 is definitely a "lo-fi hip-hop chill beats to study and relax to" break down so that got me pretty hype. Second off, I'm not really a big prog rock fan so it was kind of downhill from there. I would not say this album was a total wash though because some of those synth sounds are so sick and I very much love big retro synth sound. I think my problem with this album's particular style of prog rock is that the songs get so epic and huge so quickly and then we've still got like 10 minutes to go of these sweeping guitar licks and I just get listener fatigue real quick, which made me start losing interest in the fantasy whimsy of the lyrics. Not for me, but Phil Collins rules.
Absolutely bloody brilliant. Best album so far (over 500 albums in). This might even be better than 'The Lamb..' Superb musicianship, wonderful songwriting, and Peter Gabriel. I'll take this to my desert island, please.
This stuff is majestic. It's expansive, fun, campy, intricate, with great performances. Maybe their peak, The Battle of Epping Forest can be a little long and maybeee just a smidge over the top tho.
Firth of Fifth is absolutely perfect, best chords, best piano riff, best guitar solo, best flute solo.
I Know What I Like is the best pop song ever.
I knew that Genesis had changed their style throughout the years but I didn't realize how much they were prog rock early on. Gabriel's lyrics are strange (they always are) but refreshing - they force you to listen and think. The musical arrangements are at times sweet and serene and then other times heavy and pulsating (maybe too electro piano/synth heavy). I enjoyed Dancing with the Moonlit Knight but I didn't get the popularity of Firth of Fifth - it's a fine song and I enjoyed the piano and flute work, beyond that I wasn't all that fired up. Of the long songs, I liked the Battle of Epping Forest a lot more (weird and wonderful). And I loved the Cinema Show - just a unique, magical 10+ minute musical journey. More Fool Me isn't bad but feels like it belongs on a different album (start of it blends nicely into Firth of Fifth then lyrics and music go a slightly different direction). It doesn't have the same seamless fit as After the Ordeal and Aisle of Plenty, and I realize the former wasn't wanted on the album at first. I think that says something about the former (it is beautiful). Prog rock isn't my scene but this album is quite good. I wonder what it was like listening to it on a good acid trip.
Ugh, prog. Too clever clogs, no goods tunes, and heaven forbid you should rock out for more than 8 bars at a time. Phil Collins, bless him, manages to keep his drumming tastefully restrained and maintain some sense of momentum, which is rare in 70s UK prog,
I love this album. Haven’t listened to it in some time so I really enjoyed this after Yes yesterday. I’ve always loved all the word play in the lyrics.
There are a lot of progressive rock fans that hail the Lamb as the high point of the early era of Genesis but I think this album is.
I love side one so much that for years I never gave side 2 a proper listen. This was dumb on my part. Side 2 has Cinema Show which might be the best song on the album after Firth of Fifth. Battle of Epping forest is a funny song about 2 rival gangs with some great lyrical wordplay. After the Ordeal is a beautiful instrumental written by Steve Hackett (which both bank Tony Banks and Peter Gabriel didn't want on the album). It was the first time Hackett played a nylon string guitar on a Genesis album and it strongly hints at the sound and style that his future solo albums would have. Aisle of Plenty closes side two and repeats the melody of the album's opening track. A great way to close a great album.
What musicianship! This is prog rock and a level of sophistication I haven’t heard yet, while incorporating sounds far ahead of their time. Great album!
This was very odd, but I loved it. Only really familiar with the poppy "We Can't Dance" or "Invisible Touch" type Genesis. I was definitely not prepared for a psychedelic romp through the English countryside. It was a well-appreciated detour!
Incredible music, sometimes weird, often haunting... And the lyrics tell a really interesting tale. The whole album has an experimental feel, which often appeals to me. Easy five-star rating.
Selling England by the Pound
I remember giving this a try a few years ago and not particularly vibing with it. That feeling was similar on the first go, but it definitely grew on me with repeat listens and I found it much more satisfying than the Yes or ELP albums we’ve had.
The pomposity and conceit of Dancing With the Moonlit Knight is still a little off putting (over the last 60 years or why do so many bands want to ruminate from their unique perspective of how they are the only ones who can see England is being ‘lost/sold/swallowed by America’), although musically there are some nice musical passages especially the guitar around 3 minutes, and although the Who-esque synth/keyboard part is great, and it's a good song, the ‘I’m Breaking the Legs of the Bastard that Got Me Framed’ accent and spoken word parts in Battle of Epping Forest are more than a little bit cringey.
Aside from that, though, it jumps around with a fair degree of eccentric, scattershot charm. I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe) balances whimsy and psychedelic Beatles inflections in a very pleasing way, a very nice track. Firth of Fifth has some lovely piano and flutes, and is really fun once the keyboard/synth part kicks in. Not sure why I don’t find this as off putting as Dancing With the Moonlit Knight, as it shares some commonalities, perhaps I just prefer it melodically and harmonically. More Fool Me has a very 70s soft rock feel, a bit of Boston, a bit of Frampton, but with a folkier dynamic, a great track. After the Ordeal is another folky track, the piano and synth behind the acoustic as it builds into a vaguely Queen-esque lead guitar part (also tonally the guitar sounds a little like the Top Gun theme). The Cinema Show I really liked, the first section’s mysticalness building into an almost Radiohead-esque musical crescendo.
I don’t get the same degree of satisfaction as I do from Gabriel’s solo records, and there is still a slight edge of po-facedness to some of it that dampens it a little, but it's right on the edge of 3 and 4. It’s pretty dense in a good way, though, and I definitely liked it the more I listened, so I think I’ll tip over to 4.
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Playlist submission: More Fool Me
Always a joy to listen to prog era Genesis. This isn’t the album of theirs I return to the most, but its a lot of fun nonetheless. The story really gives off fantasy vibes. Like with the previous album, I wish I paid a bit more attention so I could have more to say here, but alas.
Let’s see:
I’ve reviewed ELP.
I’ve reviewed King Crimson.
I’ve now reviewed Genesis.
Looks the Generator is saving the best for last…Yes.
If this was Foxtrot, it’d be an easy 5 star review.
Selling England by the Pound, on the other hand…well, it has its moments, like “Dancing with the Moonlit Knight” (a high water mark in the Genesis catalog, imo), but the ornate theatricality that plagues my enjoyment of “The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway” is beginning to creep in and I’m starting to tune out by the halfway point on this record.
Congratulations are due to Genesis, however: “The Firth of Fifth” might take the prize for most unwieldy song title to ever grace a record sleeve. The song itself is pretty great, though.
One final observation while listening, Peter Gabriel’s influence on the vocal stylings of Robert Pollard of Guided by Voices has never been more evident to me than while listening to this record. (Hint, Hint Generator: recommend Alien Lanes for me)
That 70s English prog rock sound. As I observed in classic Rush from prior reviews, there's a fundamental silliness about some of it, but it's not boring, and set in a lush ass sonic landscape.
Really enjoyed this one - interesting to see early prog prog which I don't often listen to. Clearly see the influence on more modern prog I do like.
Blending track by track of old medieval sounds, with synthesizers of the 70s made for real interesting sound. I specifically found myself finding this album sounding a lot like the risk of rain soundtrack at times.
Interesting to learn about the americanization of england themes, but did not follow lyrics as closely as music.
What an odd little odyssey. It all has a serious touch of that ‘70s medieval’ vibe. Meanders and mixes styles often, even frequently jumping around within the same track (a la Bohemian Rhapsody kind of thing) which certainly keeps you on your toes although I’m not sure if I actually like it. Very strange stuff! I have always enjoyed Phil Collin’s voice though. Really hard to rate something like this so I think I’m just gonna have to go in the middle for lack of another idea.
No. 230/1001
Dancing With The Moonlit Knight 3/5 (2x)
I Know What I Like 4/5
Firth of Fifth 3/5 (2x)
More Fool Me 4/5
The Battle of Epping Forrest 3/5 (2x)
After The Ordeal 3/5
The Cinema Show 3/5 (2x)
Aisle of Plenty 3/5
Average: 3,17
Interesting prog-rock album. Just not my personal favorite.
Progrock mit einigen spannenden Ansätzen aber gleichzeitig wenig was wirklich überzeugt. Klanglich etwas brav und lyrische Aspekte gehen im ersten hören etwas unter. 3,5
From now on when I say “oh, I like Genesis”, I need to remember to qualify that statement with “but not that early 70s prog rock stuff; only the stuff that has no Peter Gabriel, and has Phil Collins on vocals.”
Sounds like the music played on a carousel ride while the horses go up and down. This album is cheesy, no wonder Peter Gabriel split to do his own thing.
I was listening and thinking why I don't really like this band and had a revelation. All the music sounds like it was composed against a strict metronome. Yes there are tempo/meter changes, but you can easily identify when the metronome was increased or decreased. I guess Phill Collins or someone was a rhythm dictator. I found myself feeling claustraphobic.
Also, there's so much going on, new sounds coming and going. I had to stop because I felt like I needed to go somewhere else and breathe. I can hear that the musicianship is great, but it just doesn't work for me. I didn't finish this album. Ah well...
I can’t stand this album. You can credit the 11 minute song on this album for ushering in Punk. Bloated meandering mess from an era of middling overlong musical wankfests.
The best album by Genesis, hands down. It has the musical depth and shows the talent in songwriting by making the Englishness theme not too overt. And then there's the talent to write really complex, but also catchy songs. "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)" or "The Battle of Epping Forest" are classic prog rock at its best yet highly sing-a-long-y. Not an easy accomplishment!
Absolutely love this album. It was my gateway into Peter Gabriel's Genesis, and this sort of Prog in general. It is very theatrical and the lyrics quite dense, but that's part of the charm! The musical performances are excellent as well - particularly Collins' drumming and Hackett's guitar.
Genesis' finest hour. While their previous album Foxtrot delivered some of the band's most impressive work (i.e. the 23-minute masterpiece "Supper's Ready") and their following album The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway was a full-on rock opera, here they strike the perfect balance of experimentation and more focused songwriting.
The atmosphere is pure whimsical britishness. Fantasy and historical settings intersect and coexist harmoniously. Honestly, I don't what Peter Gabriel is singing about most of the times, but it sure sounds awesome.
Key tracks:
Dancing With the Moonlit Knight
I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)
Firth of Fifth
One of the Greatest Prog-Rock albums of all time! I have owned it since its release and loved every note! All of the Band’s members have excelled in following works and careers!
I love how every second of this is designed to captivate you. It has a mesmerizing atmosphere that makes you immerse yourself (or even drown) in the waves of sound and the lyrics. Prime progressive rock! 5 stars.
Can you tell me where my country lies? Here in this album, and a really good album in fact. This is actually the first Genesis album I ever listened to, and I listened to it in full about two years ago, so I was excited to listen to it in full again, and boy was my excitement well placed. This album stands as one of the defining albums of prog rock. All members of the band carry the weight in their own way. Peter Gabriel’s vocals and songwriting infuse humor and wit, while still touching on issues such as the state of England at the time of the album’s recording, hence the title of the album. Tony Banks’ keyboard playing really creates an atmosphere on songs like After The Ordeal and Firth of Fifth.
Steve Hackett is one of the best prog rock guitar players of all time, no contest. His solo on Dancing With The Moonlit Knight should be enough to prove that. Mike Rutherford and Phil Collins on bass and drums respectively create a powerful rhythm section, and they really create a good foundation for the band, while also having moments to shine on their own. The album really shines for me in the longer pieces, such as the epic Dancing With The Moonlit Knight, or the Monty-Python-esque song, The Battle of Epping Forest. But I also came to appreciate the shorter, softer songs on the album, such as After The Ordeal or More Fool Me, which are both nice breaks in between these prog epics. Overall, this album is truly a pillar of prog rock, and a great album in general. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’ve got a cinema show to catch.
Hell yes feed me all of the Genesis. Never heard of this album or any of the songs on it so I was super excited to jump into this.
Firth of Fifth was just a prog rock masterpiece.
I should have taken way more drugs before listening to Battle of Epping Forest. That was a trippy ass song.
These are the kind of albums I love listening to every so often. Genesis and Yes both do a great job of just having songs that sound like you are going through a story. The time changes that happen throughout each song are so awesome because they make each song and also the middle of each song never get stale.
Definitely not a type of album I could listen to on repeat, but when the time is right this absolutely rocks.
Um. Need I say more. I think on this listen cinema show solidified itself in the Mount Rushmore of Genesis songs. Suppers ready, firth of fifth, back in nyc, cinema show. Musical box is the 5
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A geli classic and for good reason. Wish I had listened to this all in one sitting, but just awesome stuff. Glad I have nostalgia for this album.
Listened to before: Yes
Genesis are my favourite 70s prog band. There are two things that play into this: First, Peter Gabriel - His performance and his humour set the band apart from their peers. Second, Genesis consists of a bunch of musicians that play their instruments impressingly - but it never sounds like they are showing off, lile with some other bands.
The four album run from Nursery Cryme to The Lamb is immaculate, with Foxtrot being my favourite. Selling England is great to. It might have some lengths towards the end, but that's just nitpicking
Ambious, beautiful...and British. Compositions are amazing and I love the way some of the songs are in continuing movement in multiple directions. There isn't much rock moments but plenty of english folk songs and ever nursery rhymes inspired instead. All the players are really good and the album is full of exploration of differents sounds, especially in guitar department. Overall productions seems a little dated, but musically I don't find any weak moments in the album so definitely it is one the best prog albums ever made.
Peter Gabriel, Phil Collins, and the boys sure rock hard, wow. I am floored at how musically complex this album is. I'm even more confused how a prog rock band was ever as big as it was, as it seems so counter culture to whatever was popular over the decades. You can't sing to this, you can barely keep time with it. But at the same time, I can believe it - this came out in 1973 and sounds like bothing around it; it sounds like the future. There isn't any psychadelia sounds around, just face melting instumentals. Firth of Fifth is a special song, one of my absolute favorites 600 albums in.
Yesss! I was hoping there'd be more Genesis on this list! This was great! Especially the longer songs! When the synth kicks in, it takes it to another level!
Best songs: Firth Of Fifth and The Cinema Show
One of my favorite albums, personal top ten. Also in my opinion top 3 prog rock album.
This album, to me, is what’s best about prog rock. It’s big and sweeping and dramatic and over the top but so so beautiful and captivating and fun.
Peter Gabriel‘s vocals (Ably supported by Phil Collins) takes this album to the heights. A magnificent reminder of Genesis at the height of their powers
This is the Genesis I grew up with, definitely the Peter Gabriel led Genesis.
Good 70's Progressive Rock.
Maybe the best Genesis album, definitely top 2 or 3.
Tells a story, good blending of Banks, Hackett, and Collins.
Well worth a listen.
Rock with folky and theatrical elements. Takes you on a journey. Insane drumming by Collins. Prog rock, chaotic in a good melodic way. Super varied and entertaining.