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The Message

Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five

1982

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The Message

Rating

3.3

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The hip hop songs It's Nasty, It's a Shames and, especially, The Message are the main event. It's great to hear a rapper dealing with substantive matters rather than rapping about getting more ass than a bedpan. A friend introduced me to funk in high school so the first track works well. Scorpio sounds dated but was it original in 1982? The distorted vocals are the same as talk box sounds that were around long before 1982. Digging a little deeper, the song does have some really cool synth rinsed percussion but the synth created laser sounds were done previously on Rock the Casbah (The King called up his jet fighters . . .). I could live without the "romantic" songs ("Dreamin" and "You Are") but I understand others like such songs. The cover photo is a work of art. I remember having a boom box that I would carry with me when I walked / took the bus to the beach.

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Cet album a parfaitement accompagné mon trajet jusqu'à la gare où mon train m'attendait dimanche dernier. Comme vous le savez probablement, Robert Dimery, fondateur de la communauté des 1001 albums, m'a chargé d'enquêter sur mon compagnon d'écoute eldiocèse qu'il souçonnait d'avoir lancé plusieurs générateurs clandestins. Ses soupçons se sont avérés puisque j'ai bel et bien réussi à infiltrer l'un d'eux appelé "Pop/Rnb/FR". Robert en a été informé et une milice est actuellement en route vers le domicile d'eldiocèse.

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4

This is similar in a lot of ways to the Pharcyde album. Love the beats, although they sound a bit dated, and the lyrics are at times tragic. But the big difference is their lyrics are so plain vanilla. I mean, even songs called She's Fresh or It's Nasty are incredibly tame. Dreamin was too cheesy of an ode to Stevie Wonder although You Are got it right. But I guess all of it is better than inappropriate stuff. I just wish the album had more edge and made you think. The title track does - and that's why it is a classic - and It's a Shame too, but other tracks could do more. Scorpio was a bit too electronic at times but it might have been my favorite. All in all, I enjoyed it but it could have been 5-star if it consistently had more depth.

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I am a big fan of Doug Wimbish, so naturally I was looking forward to finally hearing his bass in this. It's nice to finally get the context of the other songs besides the famous song "The Message". Yeah, some of the songs are a bit dated, but they still work. The album is 40 years old, and it definitely feels it. It's not one that transgresses its years. The synths I think really hold it back, really. Still, it's a good album, one I will come back to (except them meeting Stevie Wonder, that seems kinda stalker-ish...)

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5

Very fresh!

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5

Grandmaster Flash- he eats gems and spits them out in song. This whole album could be just the message song and still get 5. Can see big influence for Outkast

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5

A lot different than I thought it would be based on the couple of songs I knew from it. I say that in the best possible way

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5

He went to the hat store, and he bought himself a hat HA HA. HA HA.

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5

Hell yea

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5

If you don't like this, you don't have a pulse. Also, when you realize that it basically launched the rap genre, then you have to give it a 5.

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5

So so good! Every song has such a catchy riff. Is there a movie where the protagonists start dancing uncontrollably? Maybe Beetlejuice? That's what this record does to me - just unconsciously bopping along

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5

dit is genieten hé, zeker een classic - Scorpio en the message is top

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5

Scorpio track giving me Daft Punk vibes. The second half the album felt much slower than the first few songs

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5

Seminal recording and a fascinating listen, I'm struck by how it spans the gaps between hip hop and disco, rap and soul. Much more than just the title track, and the references (both sampled and implicit) are layered in with skill, humor, and insight. This is not my genre of preference (so I'm sure I'm missing things), but this record seems the clarion call for a huge swath of contemporary music that followed. The rapping may be dated, but the record certainly isn't. The first title says it best - she's fresh!

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5

The influence that this album had not only on so many rappers but music in general can’t be understated! Come for the beats and stay for the content. This is a lecture for your ears and your mind!

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5

FUNK VERDADEIRO

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5

Crucial addition to hip hop that generates a very specific set of samples, as well as using a specific set of strong samples. Surprisingly laid back and R&B heavy.

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5

Dreamin' is so city pop! Very pleasant to listen to!

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5

Loved this album! Very fun and has a lot of style. I preferred the more upbeat songs to the ballads, but overall I really enjoyed it.

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5

Fresh, funky and just plain cool. Brilliant album

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5

Stellar album - funky, lucid, soulful. In the past ‘The Message’ felt like a novelty song - good but a one off showcase of the Furious Five - but it’s just the facade to a much more three dimensional album. Loved every song.

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5

I feel like this had to be one of the most underrated rap albums from the 80s. When most people talk about rap from the 80s, I feel like the only ones that they bring up are the members from N.W.A. I can understand why, but they're not the holy grail of rap music. Most people only give a shit about two tracks they've made, and they certainly don't give a shit about their second album. This is not to downgrade their legacy since I love Dre and Ice Cube, but I think that they got better inte 90s. Here, this album is less of a gangsta-rap album and more of a jazz-rap album. Gangsta-rap is cool as shit, but I just love jazz-rap so much. This might be because I've listened to To Pimp A Butterfly so many times lately, but hearing a saxophone in a rap-track makes me cum. That's one of the best things about the album, the production is fucking amazing. On one track you either get a jazzy feel, but on the other you get a track that sounds like something that Daft Punk would make. It's just so damn refreshing hearing it, since it makes this album less dull. The signing that they do is beautiful, and it shows that the guys are super fucking talented at what they do 10/10

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5

Absolutely magnificent. Covers so many genres brilliantly.

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5

This is a ton of fun! Great music. Fun lyrics. Refreshing next to a lot of other hip hop and rap we’ve heard on this project. And how sweet is “Dreamin’”?! This album has me smiling!

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5

great

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This was the only album released by the original Furious Five. Its not the first hip hop album (that is another discussion but arguably its Rappers Delight by Sugarhill Gang, from 1979), but its damn early and it sure is one of the more important rap albums to be released. And the album cover is as cool retro as it gets.

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4

Funky but inconsistent. 8

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8/10. This album is all over the place, but generally in a good way. I was not a big fan of "Scorpio". "You Are" was almost like a slow bit of an Earth, Wind, and Fire song. "The Message" was great, but "The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheel of Steel" was mostly just annoying, which is sad because it had such a fun name.

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4

Not my favorite style but undoubtedly a bop. Beginning and end were strong. 8

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This had a few jams, especially the first and last tracks, and the overlap of funk and hip hop is pretty interesting. As an album I don’t think this is super strong but you can’t deny its place in the development of hip hop. 7/10

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El disco está bien, tiene unas 3 o 4 canciones pegajosas, pero lo que me llamo la atención es la historia detrás de la canción The Message, todo el contenido social y cómo revolucionó el rap y el hip hop, solo por eso le doy un poco más de calificación de lo que le hubiera dado. Aún no encuentro en donde pasaban la música de esa canción en unos anuncios, creo que en MTV o VH1

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4

actually pretty good. didn't feel like it dragged on (minus the last song). 4.2 / 5

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In college I wrote a paper about The Message. It made me appreciate conscious hip hop

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4

Stone cold classic

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4

Very good. Bluesier than expected, and top-heavy with 'The Message' but good!

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Wanted to give it 5 stars, but couldn't quite get there. Refreshing, fun album.

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This album is about as close as I can get to a 5 without giving it a 5. It’s hard not to get up and start popping and locking with (most) this album on. There’s some songs on here that really slap, first one and The Message in particular, The Message being one of my personal favorite songs. Hip Hop as a whole, especially Dr. Dre G-Funk and Africa Bombata, owe Grandmaster flash for pioneering the sound. The Adventures if GMF is an epic break near buffet, makes me wish I could’ve experienced one of those early dance parties at the birth of Hip Hop. This is a surprisingly eclectic album, beyond samples I heard some good instrumentation including, cello, solid piano, electronic music, crooning, rhyming and skat. Not only is the album an early hip-hop pioneer but I’d say the eclecticism is also ahead of its time. It’s funny how they are so positive in contrast to more modern hip hop, they rap about monogamous relationships and how bad drugs are, surprisingly refreshing. Though there’s a couple soft boy songs that flop in the middle if the album, mostly good, but the lyrics just kind of blow, take you out of it, most specifically the very weird ode to Stevie Wonder in the style of Stevie Wonder. Those killed the 5 for me, but damn, still a great album. A-

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The production is honestly remarkable.

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Funky, feels innovative even though released in 82

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4

OMG. I don't think I'd ever listened to this full album before. What a joy to find the diversity of tracks on here.

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Huge range of influential sound and styles. Disco, hip hop, r&b, electronica, soul. Some classic beats (Scorpio/message) and verses (message) as well some epic mixes (Adventure). Scorpio (higher/lower), message

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Early hip-hop. Really wish I had listened to this genre more when I was younger. I guess that's why I'm doing this project though.

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Deze kende ik al hoor, the get down brought me here, genieten

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Nice and funky

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Funky in 1983!

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Performance remarquable de cette troupe d'uluberlu, qui réussit a faire de son tube majeur le plus mauvais son de l'album. C'est un petit peu comme la parodie Colors de robpanel, si vous voyez ce que je veux dire...

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One of the early true hip hop albums still stands up today - you can hear it’s influence across so much great music and The Message remains an iconic classic track. Only the terrible “dreamin” holds this back from a five for me

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An odd album some stevie wonder influenced soul and even some gospel. It was very preachy and found its voice in the awesome message. I enjoyed it I liked the view of 80s New York ghetto and hearing all those influences played out before hiphop got really going.

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It's funky and catchy and I like it more than I expected.

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OK, I was prepared to respect this album and the group for lighting the fire that lit up "the other guys and gals" in my 8th grade class in 1979. And I was prepared to re-appreciate the kitsch and glam-rock aspect the Five brought to the disco-rap transition period. And that was about it. But after the 3rd or 4th repeat listen, I found myself actually digging it deep. It's a piece of history,but somehow as fresh as a sunrise in Central Park. Can you dig it?

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Really wanted to give this a 5,but outside of the well known tunes it's not really listenable.

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Ahead of its time. Lyrically relevant, Every track a classic and copied mercilessly.

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Was unaware that this wasn’t only a precursor to modern hip hop and mixed beats but R&B as well

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This was great! Another one I'd never listened to but always knew I had to, fantastically funky

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Admittedly, the hiphop scene in the 1980s seemed much more diverse in its varied styles. The debate had more than one angle, and which coast it was from seemed mostly irrelevant. Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five are excellent storytellers. This album is a testament to how that can reach a broad listenership. Light-hearted at times, honest (but not brutally) and down-to-earth at times, this is a well-rounded album. The Message is exactly that, a message. This type of positive messaging merged with realities and aspires for better is something that post-80s hiphop seems to be missing. The evolution of rap in particular has been more honest in regards to the realities, but what it doesn't do that Grandmaster Flash manages to accomplish (e.g. New York, New York) is that such realities need to be told, but what this song manages to do is provide a pathway by educating the conditions of the circumstances. The real listener to the storied realities of that song can see the escape from falling into the dangers of the streets. Great album, sadly the sentiment of its greatness is nostalgic only.

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OMG I loved this. Some of the slow jamz weren't the greatest, but god bless 'em for making a song where they sing about wanting to meet Stevie Wonder. Can you imagine being him and hearing that for the first time? hahaha. I wish YouTube existed then just for the reaction video.

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4

Seminal. Must admit I was very surprised to hear the non-rap tracks on this album but The Message is still amazing. Not sure I'd come back to listen to the whole thing as an album though so 4.5 I guess.

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My son was so into this when he was on middle school. Circa 2006, he is a strange kid. Anyway solid 4

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catchy Rapper's Delight vibes, but a bit less hokey. the source of a few monumental samples/easter eggs

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I'm not really a hip-hop or rap fan, at least not current modern rap. But early 80's beginnings of rap and hip-hop is prime listening. Especially The Message. That song is beyond influential. It is the critical doctrine for any aspiring rappers and it is still completely relevant today. Banger.

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4

Fresh, Funky, and surprisingly soulful. A few tracks are weaker, but the strong ones are STRONG. And this isn't even mentioning how groundbreaking it was!

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8 tracks…again. The title track is iconic and you can hear the influence and samples stolen from it. Solid soul/r&b album. A great precursor to hip hop

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Classic hip hop… always delivered with a healthy slice of funk and electronica!

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4

Psychedelic guitar rock

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4

fooonky

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4

Spotify was missing half the tracks.

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4

This album has a little bit of everything. Very interesting listen to an obviously highly influential album.

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Surprised by how much variety is on this record. A solid listen from the boys

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Really funk mix of funk, soul and old school hip hop.

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4

"Dreamin'" is so, so bad. But "The Message" is so, so good.

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Reminds me of my days at the roller rink.

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4

The title track basically created the rap genre for old white guys like me. The rest of the album left me cold as I waited impatiently to hear those famous words; "don't push me cuz I'm close to the edge, I'm trying not to lose my head", sung in that staccato rhythm. 4 🌟 just for that amazing song.

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4

Great groove! I loved that this album came out in 2010 but had sounds of the 70s funk, 90s R&B, and more modern sounds.

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4

This album was a jam!

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4

I can hear the influence these guys had on so many other songs- just not my jam yesterday

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4

For just The Message, I’m tempted to give this album a 5, but the rest of it is just fine. It is an interesting mix of R&B and early rap/hip hop, but that one song is brilliant.

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The album is essential for The Message. A few other tracks are very good (I like Scorpio), but it really is all about The Message. If you were in NYC in 1982 this was inescapable.

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4

Did not feel the urge to skip any songs.

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The group handles a surprising variety of musical material for a hip-hop crew of their vintage, but there's a salient historical takeaway on here, too: The genre was dance music first, and here it's plainly that, though information-dense with the additional voices on top.

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Superalbum melangeant bien des styles, the message est vraiment super et Mene le rap vers çe qu’il estaujourd,hui. C’estle highligth de l’àbum. 4

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This is hot stuff. Funky, fun, and "fresh." Bruno Mars owes it all to "The Message." Can't fault it for anything except Scorpio, but I assume this is some kind of impressive DJ stuff, I guess. This is a classic otherwise and checks all the boxes. And I hope Stevie reached out to them. The Message is Fire!

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4

So close to a 5, this is arguably a genre starting/defining album.

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Simply the fact that every song on this album has been used as a sample for future songs shows how impactful this is

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4

Good God, this album is a delight!

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4

I loved the fun party tracks but didn't love so much the earnest serious tracks in the middle. Overall, a good time!

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4

I really enjoyed the sound of the old-school hip hop here. I could imagine break dancers performing as I listened. Now, when the slower tracks came on, I was a bit startled and less impressed. That dreaming about Stevie song was a little strange...

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4

This album is fun but holy shit it is just pure chaos! Every song has like fifty different shifts and it's wild as fuck to listen to. I'm kind of a fan, really. A lot of these sounds would've been fresh as fuck 40 years in the past. They were really forward-thinking imo.

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4

There are some albums that transcend even the music recorded on them based on their historic impact. This is one of them. It’s just too bad that there are some awful clunkers in the middle of it.

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3

It's pretty wild how stuff like this was able to come together and sound so fun. Some interesting new-wavey bits. A real hybrid record bringing together lots of disparate things. Some of the soul songs feel a bit like filler, but this album marked a cultural transition, so it can be forgiven.

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3

Surprisingly nice

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66. Olha sempre em frente. Vai com calma. Não ligues à gordura nos manípulos. MotA: The Message - Instrumental "Fresh"

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3

the none hip hop songs are good

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Track The Message itself is fantastic but the rest is of its era I think

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Was ready to give this an auto 5 beforehand as I love their singles and their status as early pioneers, but scorpio is proper shit, dreamin' and you are are really not what I was expecting, and really quite rubbish (if you were hyped for some old school hip hop).

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The message es la rola, se nota que todo va centrado a esa canción por qué es la única aparte del intro que suena diferente, todo lo demás parece ser el mismo beat, el mismo efecto y el mismo sampleo de sintetizador repetido N cantidad de veces (entre ellas new York New York que es buena también)

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3

Loses a star for the awful song about stevie wonder

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Gewone goede hip hop.

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3

Has a couple of really well known tracks, including the message. Albums is culturally significant.

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3

Soul, rap

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Hip Hop pioneers whose album was unfortunately only half available, hard to review the album like this

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I was starting work for the day so I mindlessly clicked for my next album and pressed play, I half noticed the 2010 tag on Spotify and was like “this is anachronistic af” lol, I’m familiar with the early hip hop creators and of course I know about Grandmaster Flash so I find this quite interesting. Having said that, this carries its time stamp very heavily, and it’s a bit cringe by today’s standards (I mean, can’t imaging those 6 minutes about how they love Stevie not making mister Wonder very uncomfortable lol). but we have to recognize that this was groundbreaking and the quality of Flash’s art. Am I going to give it a 3 mainly for The Message (song) yes I am.

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Disgraceful that I have never listened to this album before. Sounds very '80s. No doubt that this was and is a significant album, but it is too late for me to truly enjoy it.

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The message är det som tar denna från en 2a till en 3a

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First Listen. I know a couple of the songs, but the rest is new to me. Love it on first listen. Standouts: The Message, Scorpio, It's Nasty, It's a Shame 3/5

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It's easy to write this off as "hokey" - but these guys basically invented rap, so big props for that. I mean, not only did they popularize a movement and a genre, but Grandmaster Flash is also credited with creating some of the technology that made DJing (as an art form) possible - rewiring shit from Radio Shack so he could hear one record in his headphones while another one was playing in the speakers. Highlights are obviously "The Message" and "The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash" - but it's all intriguing.

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It was quite hard to take this seriously at first as it sounds exactly like a Look Around You parody of early rap. I’ll all for a positive message but the song about wanting to meet Stevie Wonder is a bit… odd? By the time it reached the title track though (and some of the expanded edition extras) it seemed like Flash had figured out the genre and laid a bit of a blueprint for socially conscious rappers of the future. Includes some probably-very-influential hip-hop production too.

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3

another album that was clearly very influential to others but it didn't excite me that much, a couple of big tunes, lots of filler

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3

Second listen - in a week. Ok. Enjoyed it the first time, this time it was great too. Still only a 3/5 for me though. Some really great songs are left for the bonus tracks.

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Love old school hip-hop and this has a game changing lead track. But too many fillers and needs more GM Flash.

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3

Probably more influential than good these days. Clearly still working out how to make rap albums, quality varies a lot

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Sounds very dated not and some frankly dreadful tracks on here (dreamin, you are) but you can’t deny the significance of this album or indeed it’s brilliance in parts also. The message is an absolute classic

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3

Mostly forgettable, but not terrible to listen to. Good background music. "The Message" is good for it's commentary, but not the music. Highlight Track: "The Message"

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Heard

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3

It's not bad, but not my cup of tea. I liked guitar in It's a Shame.

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3

old school nice

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3

It has a few head bobbing hits, but some real slow boring ones near the end. im still learning how to rate. 1 is obviously garbage, 2 is something i can take from it, 3 is some good hits and replays (could make it through twice), 4 is good, like has songs i will listen to outside this challenge, and 5 is rare but like nearly if not all songs are either great or connect to me in some way. with that in mind … between 2 and 3, so 3.

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I've heard the hits before, but honestly had no idea who played them (this is becoming a regular thing now). This is why I love the 1001 Albums Generator. It gives me context for all the tracks I have heard in the past, but never knew who the artist was. I feel like I should have discovered this record a long time ago. I mean look at this album cover. I don't really see myself listening to this kind of stuff on the regular. It's a bit dated and cheesy, although that's also why it's fun. This is music you want to hear live or at a party. Alone on a computer isn't exactly the best way to appreciate this album, but I dig it.

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Always thought early 80’s hip hop was a bit cheesy, this does sound a bit dated now, but enjoyed it much more than I expected. Can see the influence it had and the lyrics are still relevant in 2021. Scorpio great track reminds me of daft punk.

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This was a fun listen and The Message is still one of the all-time greatest rap songs, its held up remarkably well after all these years.

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So, I’ve read that Grandmaster Flash was the first DJ to ever put his fingers on vinyl, which changed DJing for ever. The title track is epic. It paints a vivid picture of ghetto life in NYC in the 70-80s (as does the LP cover) and influenced a lot of others. Since I couldn’t find any sample credits anywhere, I guess synth hook is original? I like the song that samples The TomTom Club where one of the 5 raps about the joys of monogamy! Times have changed.

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Title track and Nasty are great. Rest of the album feels like filler.

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Message still sounds crisp. Love hearing the classic machine sounds but mixed in with great bass playing.

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This is such an inconsistent listen - topped and tailed by moments of true brilliance ('She's Fresh' - lovely Jimmy Castor Bunch sample, 'The Message') but the meat of the sandwich is hard yakka. 'Scorpio' is almost top tier, a great electro number, but it reaches its nadir when the Furious Five fall over each other to suck up to Stevie Wonder.

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I was already pretty familiar with The Message, the song. But I wasn't ready for Dreamin', which seems like it's from a different album altogether. Really appreciate the robot voices on Scorpio. Pretty fun listen all the way around.

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Förvånandsvärt catchy, även om det är nåt jag kanske inte kommer lyssna på dagligen. Det kan nog finnas en del godingar att extrapolera härifrån.

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Gott gung

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Otippad range på plattan? Har hört the message (låten) flera gånger men tänkte att grand master flash var en lite plojjig artist. Mycket bra finns att hämta! kommer återkomma till denna flera gånger!

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Jag tyckte att det va ganska så fett för de bryr sig inte om att matcha texterna till humöret och det respekterar jag...!!!

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3

okay bit funky

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Scorpio really gave me some electro vibes. Whole lotta pop-n-lock/break dancing music here. Honestly not sure I’d ever chose to listen to this again, but I appreciate that this is an important part of the Black music/dance/DJing/hip-hop landscape. Two stars for listenability, another star for historical importance.

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This is an album I can appreciate for what it is, but I don't know that I would go out of my way to listen again. I know these guys were rap pioneers and much of the album seems to bridge the gap between 70s funk/R&B and 80s rap. I enjoyed the bass on this album (Doug Wimbish, who later joined Living Colour), particularly on She's Fresh and It's a Shame (especially the last minute of the track). I also liked the Tom Tom Club backing track for It's Nasty. Favorite track was The Message. As soon as I heard the "ah-huh-huh-huh" and "it makes me wonder how I keep from going under" my immediate reaction was, "hey, they did that in Hamilton" (with the line "it makes me wonder why I even bring the thunder" and the laughing when they're singing "you don't have the votes"). I'm not a big rap fan, so I think I missed out on a lot of callbacks in Hamilton...I feel like I'm getting schooled in rap history during the 1001 albums journey and I'm enjoying it more than I expected I would. Calling it a 3 primarily because the album just didn't blow me away but I definitely enjoyed it.

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The Message and a nice sample / cover thing of Genius of Love. And a couple surprising RnB tracks. This would have been super innovative when it came out in the early 80s.

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One of those albums that's insanely important for moving the genre forward, but hasn't aged all that well. Certain songs (the entirely voice-boxed "Scorpio") are total misses, while certain songs (the title track) are just awesome, and still have a very important message (heh.) With context, good. If you weren't super into rap and didn't realize what the genre owed this record, pretty bad. Favorite tracks: "The Message", "You Are"

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Good flow

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Certainly didn't expect those R&B tracks in the middle. Not sure what was sampled vs what was actually played. But some damn fine tracks on this album. 3.5/5

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groovettone

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Leuk het begin van het de hip hop hype

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This reminded me of the first time I snapped my banjo string. I enjoyed the pain.

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Legendary for launching a genre, but boy, is it dated. I'm also not sure the Stevie Wonder tribute was relevant or listenable when it was released. Best track: The Message

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YASS! Super classic! Love White Lines and The Message but this was so informative and interesting! Didn't realise how funky it was, like She's Fresh. And more funk than rap. Loved this. Will definitely listen to this again!

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Good instrumentals and production, decent rapping all around too. Has some good songs too like Its Nasty and Scorpio. I'd say this album for me is alright, but gets a bit tedious by the end. I do appreciate the variety between early hip hop and the romatic songs as it makes it easier to listen for the first time. For some reason, I couldn't dig the title track which I know is very well regarded. Just was too long and had enough halfway through. Preferred it's sequel (Survival) in the deluxe tracks weirdly. Also really enjoyed New York New York a lot and seriously wondering why it wasn't on the original album.

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Very old school hip hop.

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Not.my kind of.music

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It's nasty sample for sweet fantasy was a cool surprise and the message is great. More signing than I thought would be on it

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back to the roots

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Interesting history. This album can't be labeled as just "hip-hop" - yes there are elements of it in most songs but "Dreamin'" and "You Are" are melodic soul songs without a trace of rap. But songs like "She's Fresh" which is awesome and catchy-as-hell (a perfect opening track) and the early/timeless hit "The Message" are just fun old-school hip-hop with killer basslines/melodies. "Scorpio" sounds like something Beck would definitely have listened to and taken a lot from 15-20 years later. Interesting/cool crossover note: "The Message" influenced Genesis in 1983 so much that in their hit song "Mama" Phil Collins took that "hahahaha" laugh directly from this song. It definitely is "of the time" but for me that's what makes it enjoyable - it's definitely worth a listen now and again, especially if you really like early hip-hop. Fun. 7/10 3 stars.

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I really enjoyed the beginning and end and it’s funky style but there was a stretch in the middle where it was really slow and exhausting. However the start and finish were fun and good

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Eclectic mix. I like the different samples and styles.

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3/5 was chill

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Solid funk / proto-rap album. 7 songs and each is unique, a bit up and down. Enjoyed She's Fresh, It's a Shame, and The Message. The others were ok.

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Some really good classic hip-hop. Lots of variety and I was going to say the feel was more "fun", which I enjoyed, up until the last song which definitely had some more disturbing lyrics

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This album is incredibly important and for that it gets credit. However, this album is also quite uneven. It oscillates between rap, funk, electronica, and even outright easy listening in ‘You Are.’ I’m a fan of range on an album, but here it can be jarring. The bass work in this album is phenomenal and the singing is great though some of the harmonies fall flat. I’m a fan of the synth here as well as dated as it is. Lyrically this album has moments of social criticism and it’s there where it has its greatest moments. The best track by far is of course ‘The Message.’

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Play that funky music, 80’er, ghettoblaster, samples

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I didn’t realise the actual ‘Message’ album was quite so eclectic. Love the title track. Love Scorpio, but the rest is a bit cheesy for me, either in the soul stylings (not what I expected) or the fairly basic use of samples in places (Nasty). Still worth it for The Message itself, but would have made a better four track ep.

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fun

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Music. Nice.

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Love Scorpio, rest a bit dated or meh. I remember The Message seeming a bit mainstream even when it came out

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Écoute essentielle, définitivement. Par contre, Dreamin' et You are sont à oublier. The Message est le moment fort de l'album et cette pièce mérite à elle seule un 5 étoiles. Ce paragraphe est tellement marquant: "Don't push me 'Cause I'm close to the edge I'm trying not to lose my head Ah-huh-huh-huh It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder How I keep from going under" Mais c'est sûr que dans l'ensemble, ce n'est pas un super album à écouter, mais il a absolument sa place dans l'histoire. Pièces préférées: The Message, The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels of Steel, Scorpio, It's Nasty

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Facile de voir pourquoi cet album est important. Ça sonne pas comme 1982, c’est repris partout, c’est bien fait et c’est plutôt varié. Je ne suis pas fan des ballades (Stevie, you make me Wonder... I dream about you...) ouf!

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This album took some turns. Only 7 tracks more than one of them is not old school rap at all. There's electro in here there's a lot of r&B singing old school... I respect the innovation on here.

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This album is on here more for its importance than how good each track is I think. While it was likely pretty amazing to hear when it first came out, I don't think most of this album aged very well. BUT you do get some key components of hip hop still relevant today. A mix of party and political songs (The Message is obviously fantastic), sampling, and even some electronic music elements (Scorpion). Parts of it felt more like an R&B album than a hip-hop album but I think it was just too early in hip-hop's history to expect anything different.

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This album was good as hell. Especially liked the last track that sampled all those other songs

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I was not a fan of the rapping on this at all. I know how important the message is but the flow and rhymes are so unimpressive compared to rap today. The singing songs were much better. I can tell that this album must have sounded very different and futuristic at the time but I hated the techno heavy tracks like Scorpio. My favorite song Was dreamin

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I liked the funk elements of the album but overall it’s tracks were inconsistent in length and variety. I liked “Dreamin’” and “you are” the most — it’s nasty and the message were obviously good too

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Een van de leukere hiphop-platen die ik al hoorde. Maar nog steeds kan het mij maar matig bekoren

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What a strange and delightful album. I enjoyed parts of it but found that most of it was not for me. Though I’m sure Flash and the Five would say it’s for everyone. I liked it in a way, but won’t mind if I don’t hear it again.

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This gets an extra point for being an interesting historical artifact. However, I really didn't love listening to it for listening's sake. My favorite pieces were more reflective of the tracks the DJ was spinning. I also liked hearing some different themes in the lyrics, even if an ode to Stevie Wonder came as a bit of a surprise.

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Skemmtileg plata, gríðarlegir bangerar en svo voru róleg lög sem náðu mér ekki.

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Good apart from the slow ones & the one with the Casio voice affect

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Sure, it’s a major moment in the history of hip hop - an album that mixed party tunes with socially conscious raps - and some of the beats and scratches are f-f-f-fresh… but left to their own devices they end up down dead ends, singing love songs to Stevie Wonder and other slow jams when pure hip hop rap would have been preferred. An important record, an influential record but, alas, not a great album by any stretch.

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Great early Hip Hop record here, Classics like "The Message" on it, super stuff here and with some great rhyming. Love it and it is, just for being one of the first popular hip hop albums. Rightfully on this list in my opinion.

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An early dance hip-hop album that doesn't even feel like hip-hop for a good chunk of its time. When it does though, it's actually pretty good for the time. Favorites: "She's Fresh", "The Message", "The Adventure of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheel of Steel"

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Gee, the first hip hop albums were cheery old things!

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A novel flashback by the grandmaster. Who puts the hit so deep in a record?

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fine. 2 stars its smooth but forgettable.

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Old rap, its fine, I liked being able to hear the original samples of some more recent/popular songs. But same story with old rap, doesn't feel like it has much of a story to tell

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Qué rara onda de hip hop del muy muy viejito pero con onda medio social, medio de queja. La verdad es que no empezó tan mal: los metales y la onda funk al inicio del primer track me gustaron; también la guitarra en It's a Shame. Pero en todas las canciones siento que pasa que de una gran intro (quizá hasta exagerada) pasan a algo repetitivo.

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Rap de los 80s a todo lo que da. Me imagino que es un gran debut pero no dejo de imaginarme a Ross (Friends) tocando el teclado. Las baladas, más de R&B que rap fueron lo que más gusto de este disco. Quitando ciertas partes con buen funk en el bajo para romper la monotonía, el uso de las mismas secuencias se me hizo repetitivo en todo el disco. Songs: Dreamin'

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En realidad quería, esperaba, dar una excelente calificación aquí. Quería centrarme en hablar de la importancia y genio de Grandmaster Flash, de la manera en que literalmente inventó una forma de hacer música cuando el hip hop apenas estaba ya no en pañales, sino en etapas fetales. Tenía planeado hablar sobre como creo/descubrió la manera de mezclar correctamente en carrusel, sobre su creatividad, sobre su importancia histórica y sobre cómo revolucionó por completo la manera de hacer música moderna en ciertos aspectos y fue el origen de que se pueda considerar que una tornamesa puede ser un instrumento musical. Después seguirían los halagos sobre los Furious Five y cómo estaban entre los mejores raperos de esa época, hablaría de Melle Mel, Rahiem y Kidd Creole... y luego daría el bizarro dato de cómo Kidd Creole ahora está en la cárcel porque acuchillo (en repetidas ocasiones) y mató a un indigente en NY... en 2017... Podría después tocar sobre como The Message es una canción super importante no solo por el mensaje social y la importancia de unión en la comunidad que tuvo sino como realmente la pieza importante musicalmente del disco. Hablaría de cómo el disco todavía no se siente taaaanto como hip-hop en forma y todavía guarda mucha sensación de esos discos de "mezcla de fiesta" y cómo aun se oye mucho soul y funk crudos y trasplantados.... Y ahí empiezan los problemas. Por más que quiera, fuera de The Message el disco no ha envejecido con gracia. El resto de las canciones suenan hoy en día o demasiado blandas y sin chiste, con los breaks más simples de funk copiados y pegados sin tocar nada, o se siente como experimentos que no venían al caso y simplemente no funcionan (como hacer toda una canción con voz de robot - Kraftwerk no son) o simplemente se sienten como canciones sin brillo y que hoy en día hacen bola y paja. Sí, creo que es un disco que se DEBE conocer, por su importancia cultural o histórica; pero musicalmente, con la excepción de The Message, hasta ahí se queda, como una curiosidad para ser estudiada más que para ser disfrutado como música.

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If you love your mother, if you love your mother, if you really really really really love your mother. Jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump. The first song rules. The second song I think Mariah Carey + ODB improved upon the sample. Overall, this was fun, and I assume innovative for its time. Scorpio was some cool as hell robot business. I didn't care much for the more R&B ballads, but the raps were fun in an innocent way. Almost sounds like it's written for toddlers in today's context. C+

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Not what I was expecting and feel kinda let down. Loads of shifts and didn't really get the album as a whole. Couple of decent tracks though

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'The message' is a bop, but the rest of the album is pretty meh. I really don't like the techno style of scorpio especially

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I hadn't listened to the album before. The title track is great. As an album as a whole, it felt all over the place, and dated. I couldn't tell if the mid-tracks like "Dreamin'" and "You Are" were taking the piss or not?

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Undeniably influential for the single of The Message, and probably essential for break dancing and popping. However, overlong and samey. Nice to see them give tribute back to Tom Tom Club and Stylistics cover. Single 5*, album 2*

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2/5 way too experimental for my taste.

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An album about God, Stevie Wonder and loving your Mother with some rap and groundbreaking production. Mostly the first three though. The Message is a standout, an absolute classic but can't elevate the album above a 2. Extremely dated.

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Revolutionary in its day - pretty dated listening now. Not their fault, really - this was the blueprint for so much that followed. The ballads are honking.

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“A singles-plus filler cash-in that proves a fascinating time capsule of rap's early attempts with the album format"

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I'm not impressed by this. It is really just not good. Just sounds like bad 80s music that's trying to be funky.

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Excellent production/samples, but lyrics really showing their age

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Wasn't really a fan but fun to hear early versions of rap.

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Didn’t love it but understand it

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Album ktory rownie dobrze moglby byc jednym kawalkiem, tytulowym the message, bo to jedna z tych wczesnych rapowych plyt, ktore chce wiele, a wychodzi jak to czesto w poczatkach gatunku, czyli pomieszanie z wylewem kreatywnosci tworcow, ktorych grupa liczyla sporo, bo sporo jest grania na instrumentach, no i kazdy musial miec swoja zwrote, albo chociaz probowal, bo rapowanie jest tutaj glownie na tytulowym traku, reszta to raczej funkowe brzmienia, no i abominacje pokroju scorpio, ktore brzmia jak bazarowa muzyka kogos kto dostal synthy i sprawdza jakie to ma funkcje, zwlaszcza te wokale przepuszczone przez miliard filtrow w celu uzyskania robociego giberiszu jest dnem dna plyty, czas dobrze pokazal czemu banda sie nazywala arcymistrz flesz i pieciu furiatow, influencyjne techniki tworzenia beatow i krojenia sampli pochodza od niego, drugim pozytywnie zaskakujacym punktem, nawet po tylu latach, bo plyta z roku 82 jest wystep drugiego arcymistrza, chodzi o Melle Mela, ktory razem z Duke Bootee, artysta znanym jedynie z zwrotki i hooka na the message, tworza podwaliny pod wspolczesne ukladnaie rymow na beaty, wiec o ile pierwsze 30 minut jest ciezkim odsluchem, tak ostatni trak ratuje krazek, dziwne ze na plejce go wczesniej nie mialem, albo inna wersja zagoscila, cieszy widok tak waznego albumu w historii czarnej muzyki, ale jednak nie zestarzal on sie zbyt dobrze, zbyt duzo elektronicznego funku, za malo jakosciowych zwrotek, stad ocena calosci mocne 2/5

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Not great, I liked the idea of funk and rap together, but it just didn't mesh into a very interesting album. If you've heard one track, you've heard them all.

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Fresh

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word. imagine the scenario, you hear the track 'the message' and understandably you're blown away. its mega. so you're like surely the guys that wrote this must have a whole back cataolgue of this magic stuff. no way, there's an album named after that monster track. buy the record, put it on and spend the next half hour wondering how they came up with the message and why they couldn't create anything else half as good as it. its like buying a pack of fruit gums and there's only one red one in the pack. ordering a peperoni pizza and it just has one slice of peperoni on it. like turning on the telly to watch some football but only liverpool are playing.

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Was expecting a lot more from this considering how iconic and influential the title track is. Kinda boring album

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too many of the same sounding tracks, title track is really good tho

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Очень посредственный альбом, есть пару нормальных треков и всё! 3/10

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Talk about schizophrenic. This album has a mix of classic early hip-hop tracks and terrible "smooth" R&B vocals that sound like something a 15 year old would think is romantic. The ballads are so bad they border on parody. Best Tracks: It's Nasty (Genius of Love); Scorpio; The Message

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Good in NY with a big soundsystem and friends

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I really hope these fellas finally got to meet Stevie Wonder. Appreciated the sample of "It's A Shame" by The Spinners.

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Buiten de message, meh. 2.5

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i knew the message and figured it would be a classic rap album. however, a big part of the album is more towards R&B. Some relgious themes too. The content is mostly social so thats cool and the early days dj techniques are also fun but it's a bit outdated besides its title track

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Not quite the groundbreaking album I was led to believe. Some of the Streetsounds compilations piss all over this. The Message itself is magnificent. But the rest is a little electro auto-pilot.

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'The Message,' in a nutshell? Hard to be black in America. ‘Don’t push me ‘cause I’m close to the edge. I’m tryin’ not to lose my head… It’s like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from going under.’ Note that neither the lyricists nor lead vocalist Keef Cowboy are expressing anger, but caution: I’m really tryin’ here. And, as the final and title track clearly reveals, against the kinds of disadvantages that confront minorities when tryin’ to make the American creed of equal opportunity, including access, more of a practical reality. Before all that, though, we are introduced to the sole enterprise that seems to have prevailed where others have failed: sex. And on the very first track, we’re introduced to the sexual prowess of the players- and there’s quite a lot of them, vocalists and instrumentalists- before we then move on to a celebration of nasty sex on the second, followed by a bizzare robot vocal on the third cut, ‘Scorpio,’ in which we hear what phone sex (or at least foreplay) between two robots might sound like. Oddly, I could find no connection between the electronically effected voice and the lyrics, but there it is. And just when we’ve established this as a steamy, lusty, sex-themed funk LP, the next three songs take a decidedly different turn, musically and lyrically, concluding with a (literally) black gospel number, ‘You Are,’ with the ‘you’ being God, and everything being who You Are. Downtempo went the music and with it the vocals, taking a bit of downturn of their own, Keef never quite aspiring to the high notes he was hearing in this mind but abundantly sharing nonetheless. At least the background harmonies were a little sweeter on ‘Dreamin.’ I’m reminded of a hilarious episode of the NBC sit-com Seinfeld, in which ‘George’ (portrayed by Jason Alexander) unsuccessfully tries to combine his two favorite activities- sex and eating sandwiches. Musical artists certainly can and do bend and blend genres- country rock, jazz fusion, etc. But, can one album successfully offer the two side by side, unvarnished- especially such disparate ones as lusty funk and black church gospel- and still hold true? Only to end with 'The Message?' This, and average performances, all around make for just an ok time. There’s an argument to be made about this LP's inclusion into a time capsule. But I suppose the same could be said about a telegraph machine.

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Groundbreaking back then, felt very dated now

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Really not a fan, was hard to figure out what it was about.

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I like the funky parts, but those parts didn't outshine, or even complement, the rapping.

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sample city. rent bajs, önska att jag kunde ratea 0

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Das ist unglaublich scheiße

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Je comprends que c'est un album important historiquement pour les début du rap mais sérieux ça vieilli pas full bien Il manquait beaucoup de tounes sur spoty mais j'en ai eu assez...

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Nã ouvi, pois não tem no deezer.

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