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The Message

Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five

1982

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Cet album a parfaitement accompagné mon trajet jusqu'à la gare où mon train m'attendait dimanche dernier. Comme vous le savez probablement, Robert Dimery, fondateur de la communauté des 1001 albums, m'a chargé d'enquêter sur mon compagnon d'écoute eldiocèse qu'il souçonnait d'avoir lancé plusieurs générateurs clandestins. Ses soupçons se sont avérés puisque j'ai bel et bien réussi à infiltrer l'un d'eux appelé "Pop/Rnb/FR". Robert en a été informé et une milice est actuellement en route vers le domicile d'eldiocèse.

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5

Very fresh!

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5

Grandmaster Flash- he eats gems and spits them out in song. This whole album could be just the message song and still get 5. Can see big influence for Outkast

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5

A lot different than I thought it would be based on the couple of songs I knew from it. I say that in the best possible way

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5

He went to the hat store, and he bought himself a hat HA HA. HA HA.

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5

Hell yea

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5

If you don't like this, you don't have a pulse. Also, when you realize that it basically launched the rap genre, then you have to give it a 5.

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5

So so good! Every song has such a catchy riff. Is there a movie where the protagonists start dancing uncontrollably? Maybe Beetlejuice? That's what this record does to me - just unconsciously bopping along

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5

dit is genieten hé, zeker een classic - Scorpio en the message is top

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5

Scorpio track giving me Daft Punk vibes. The second half the album felt much slower than the first few songs

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5

Seminal recording and a fascinating listen, I'm struck by how it spans the gaps between hip hop and disco, rap and soul. Much more than just the title track, and the references (both sampled and implicit) are layered in with skill, humor, and insight. This is not my genre of preference (so I'm sure I'm missing things), but this record seems the clarion call for a huge swath of contemporary music that followed. The rapping may be dated, but the record certainly isn't. The first title says it best - she's fresh!

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This was the only album released by the original Furious Five. Its not the first hip hop album (that is another discussion but arguably its Rappers Delight by Sugarhill Gang, from 1979), but its damn early and it sure is one of the more important rap albums to be released. And the album cover is as cool retro as it gets.

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4

Funky but inconsistent. 8

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8/10. This album is all over the place, but generally in a good way. I was not a big fan of "Scorpio". "You Are" was almost like a slow bit of an Earth, Wind, and Fire song. "The Message" was great, but "The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheel of Steel" was mostly just annoying, which is sad because it had such a fun name.

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4

Not my favorite style but undoubtedly a bop. Beginning and end were strong. 8

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This had a few jams, especially the first and last tracks, and the overlap of funk and hip hop is pretty interesting. As an album I don’t think this is super strong but you can’t deny its place in the development of hip hop. 7/10

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El disco está bien, tiene unas 3 o 4 canciones pegajosas, pero lo que me llamo la atención es la historia detrás de la canción The Message, todo el contenido social y cómo revolucionó el rap y el hip hop, solo por eso le doy un poco más de calificación de lo que le hubiera dado. Aún no encuentro en donde pasaban la música de esa canción en unos anuncios, creo que en MTV o VH1

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4

actually pretty good. didn't feel like it dragged on (minus the last song). 4.2 / 5

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In college I wrote a paper about The Message. It made me appreciate conscious hip hop

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4

Stone cold classic

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4

Very good. Bluesier than expected, and top-heavy with 'The Message' but good!

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Wanted to give it 5 stars, but couldn't quite get there. Refreshing, fun album.

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This album is about as close as I can get to a 5 without giving it a 5. It’s hard not to get up and start popping and locking with (most) this album on. There’s some songs on here that really slap, first one and The Message in particular, The Message being one of my personal favorite songs. Hip Hop as a whole, especially Dr. Dre G-Funk and Africa Bombata, owe Grandmaster flash for pioneering the sound. The Adventures if GMF is an epic break near buffet, makes me wish I could’ve experienced one of those early dance parties at the birth of Hip Hop. This is a surprisingly eclectic album, beyond samples I heard some good instrumentation including, cello, solid piano, electronic music, crooning, rhyming and skat. Not only is the album an early hip-hop pioneer but I’d say the eclecticism is also ahead of its time. It’s funny how they are so positive in contrast to more modern hip hop, they rap about monogamous relationships and how bad drugs are, surprisingly refreshing. Though there’s a couple soft boy songs that flop in the middle if the album, mostly good, but the lyrics just kind of blow, take you out of it, most specifically the very weird ode to Stevie Wonder in the style of Stevie Wonder. Those killed the 5 for me, but damn, still a great album. A-

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4

The production is honestly remarkable.

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Funky, feels innovative even though released in 82

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OMG. I don't think I'd ever listened to this full album before. What a joy to find the diversity of tracks on here.

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Huge range of influential sound and styles. Disco, hip hop, r&b, electronica, soul. Some classic beats (Scorpio/message) and verses (message) as well some epic mixes (Adventure). Scorpio (higher/lower), message

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Early hip-hop. Really wish I had listened to this genre more when I was younger. I guess that's why I'm doing this project though.

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Deze kende ik al hoor, the get down brought me here, genieten

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Nice and funky

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Funky in 1983!

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Performance remarquable de cette troupe d'uluberlu, qui réussit a faire de son tube majeur le plus mauvais son de l'album. C'est un petit peu comme la parodie Colors de robpanel, si vous voyez ce que je veux dire...

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One of the early true hip hop albums still stands up today - you can hear it’s influence across so much great music and The Message remains an iconic classic track. Only the terrible “dreamin” holds this back from a five for me

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It's funky and catchy and I like it more than I expected.

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OK, I was prepared to respect this album and the group for lighting the fire that lit up "the other guys and gals" in my 8th grade class in 1979. And I was prepared to re-appreciate the kitsch and glam-rock aspect the Five brought to the disco-rap transition period. And that was about it. But after the 3rd or 4th repeat listen, I found myself actually digging it deep. It's a piece of history,but somehow as fresh as a sunrise in Central Park. Can you dig it?

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Really wanted to give this a 5,but outside of the well known tunes it's not really listenable.

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Ahead of its time. Lyrically relevant, Every track a classic and copied mercilessly.

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Was unaware that this wasn’t only a precursor to modern hip hop and mixed beats but R&B as well

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This was great! Another one I'd never listened to but always knew I had to, fantastically funky

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It's pretty wild how stuff like this was able to come together and sound so fun. Some interesting new-wavey bits. A real hybrid record bringing together lots of disparate things. Some of the soul songs feel a bit like filler, but this album marked a cultural transition, so it can be forgiven.

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Surprisingly nice

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66. Olha sempre em frente. Vai com calma. Não ligues à gordura nos manípulos. MotA: The Message - Instrumental "Fresh"

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the none hip hop songs are good

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Track The Message itself is fantastic but the rest is of its era I think

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Was ready to give this an auto 5 beforehand as I love their singles and their status as early pioneers, but scorpio is proper shit, dreamin' and you are are really not what I was expecting, and really quite rubbish (if you were hyped for some old school hip hop).

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Loses a star for the awful song about stevie wonder

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Gewone goede hip hop.

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Has a couple of really well known tracks, including the message. Albums is culturally significant.

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Soul, rap

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Hip Hop pioneers whose album was unfortunately only half available, hard to review the album like this

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I was starting work for the day so I mindlessly clicked for my next album and pressed play, I half noticed the 2010 tag on Spotify and was like “this is anachronistic af” lol, I’m familiar with the early hip hop creators and of course I know about Grandmaster Flash so I find this quite interesting. Having said that, this carries its time stamp very heavily, and it’s a bit cringe by today’s standards (I mean, can’t imaging those 6 minutes about how they love Stevie not making mister Wonder very uncomfortable lol). but we have to recognize that this was groundbreaking and the quality of Flash’s art. Am I going to give it a 3 mainly for The Message (song) yes I am.

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Disgraceful that I have never listened to this album before. Sounds very '80s. No doubt that this was and is a significant album, but it is too late for me to truly enjoy it.

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First Listen. I know a couple of the songs, but the rest is new to me. Love it on first listen. Standouts: The Message, Scorpio, It's Nasty, It's a Shame 3/5

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It's easy to write this off as "hokey" - but these guys basically invented rap, so big props for that. I mean, not only did they popularize a movement and a genre, but Grandmaster Flash is also credited with creating some of the technology that made DJing (as an art form) possible - rewiring shit from Radio Shack so he could hear one record in his headphones while another one was playing in the speakers. Highlights are obviously "The Message" and "The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash" - but it's all intriguing.

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It was quite hard to take this seriously at first as it sounds exactly like a Look Around You parody of early rap. I’ll all for a positive message but the song about wanting to meet Stevie Wonder is a bit… odd? By the time it reached the title track though (and some of the expanded edition extras) it seemed like Flash had figured out the genre and laid a bit of a blueprint for socially conscious rappers of the future. Includes some probably-very-influential hip-hop production too.

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another album that was clearly very influential to others but it didn't excite me that much, a couple of big tunes, lots of filler

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Second listen - in a week. Ok. Enjoyed it the first time, this time it was great too. Still only a 3/5 for me though. Some really great songs are left for the bonus tracks.

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Love old school hip-hop and this has a game changing lead track. But too many fillers and needs more GM Flash.

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Probably more influential than good these days. Clearly still working out how to make rap albums, quality varies a lot

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Sounds very dated not and some frankly dreadful tracks on here (dreamin, you are) but you can’t deny the significance of this album or indeed it’s brilliance in parts also. The message is an absolute classic

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Mostly forgettable, but not terrible to listen to. Good background music. "The Message" is good for it's commentary, but not the music. Highlight Track: "The Message"

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Heard

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It's not bad, but not my cup of tea. I liked guitar in It's a Shame.

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old school nice

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It has a few head bobbing hits, but some real slow boring ones near the end. im still learning how to rate. 1 is obviously garbage, 2 is something i can take from it, 3 is some good hits and replays (could make it through twice), 4 is good, like has songs i will listen to outside this challenge, and 5 is rare but like nearly if not all songs are either great or connect to me in some way. with that in mind … between 2 and 3, so 3.

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I've heard the hits before, but honestly had no idea who played them (this is becoming a regular thing now). This is why I love the 1001 Albums Generator. It gives me context for all the tracks I have heard in the past, but never knew who the artist was. I feel like I should have discovered this record a long time ago. I mean look at this album cover. I don't really see myself listening to this kind of stuff on the regular. It's a bit dated and cheesy, although that's also why it's fun. This is music you want to hear live or at a party. Alone on a computer isn't exactly the best way to appreciate this album, but I dig it.

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Always thought early 80’s hip hop was a bit cheesy, this does sound a bit dated now, but enjoyed it much more than I expected. Can see the influence it had and the lyrics are still relevant in 2021. Scorpio great track reminds me of daft punk.

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This was a fun listen and The Message is still one of the all-time greatest rap songs, its held up remarkably well after all these years.

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So, I’ve read that Grandmaster Flash was the first DJ to ever put his fingers on vinyl, which changed DJing for ever. The title track is epic. It paints a vivid picture of ghetto life in NYC in the 70-80s (as does the LP cover) and influenced a lot of others. Since I couldn’t find any sample credits anywhere, I guess synth hook is original? I like the song that samples The TomTom Club where one of the 5 raps about the joys of monogamy! Times have changed.

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The hip hop songs It's Nasty, It's a Shames and, especially, The Message are the main event. It's great to hear a rapper dealing with substantive matters rather than rapping about getting more ass than a bedpan. A friend introduced me to funk in high school so the first track works well. Scorpio sounds dated but was it original in 1982? The distorted vocals are the same as talk box sounds that were around long before 1982. Digging a little deeper, the song does have some really cool synth rinsed percussion but the synth created laser sounds were done previously on Rock the Casbah (The King called up his jet fighters . . .). I could live without the "romantic" songs ("Dreamin" and "You Are") but I understand others like such songs. The cover photo is a work of art. I remember having a boom box that I would carry with me when I walked / took the bus to the beach.

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Title track and Nasty are great. Rest of the album feels like filler.

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fine. 2 stars its smooth but forgettable.

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Old rap, its fine, I liked being able to hear the original samples of some more recent/popular songs. But same story with old rap, doesn't feel like it has much of a story to tell

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Qué rara onda de hip hop del muy muy viejito pero con onda medio social, medio de queja. La verdad es que no empezó tan mal: los metales y la onda funk al inicio del primer track me gustaron; también la guitarra en It's a Shame. Pero en todas las canciones siento que pasa que de una gran intro (quizá hasta exagerada) pasan a algo repetitivo.

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Rap de los 80s a todo lo que da. Me imagino que es un gran debut pero no dejo de imaginarme a Ross (Friends) tocando el teclado. Las baladas, más de R&B que rap fueron lo que más gusto de este disco. Quitando ciertas partes con buen funk en el bajo para romper la monotonía, el uso de las mismas secuencias se me hizo repetitivo en todo el disco. Songs: Dreamin'

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En realidad quería, esperaba, dar una excelente calificación aquí. Quería centrarme en hablar de la importancia y genio de Grandmaster Flash, de la manera en que literalmente inventó una forma de hacer música cuando el hip hop apenas estaba ya no en pañales, sino en etapas fetales. Tenía planeado hablar sobre como creo/descubrió la manera de mezclar correctamente en carrusel, sobre su creatividad, sobre su importancia histórica y sobre cómo revolucionó por completo la manera de hacer música moderna en ciertos aspectos y fue el origen de que se pueda considerar que una tornamesa puede ser un instrumento musical. Después seguirían los halagos sobre los Furious Five y cómo estaban entre los mejores raperos de esa época, hablaría de Melle Mel, Rahiem y Kidd Creole... y luego daría el bizarro dato de cómo Kidd Creole ahora está en la cárcel porque acuchillo (en repetidas ocasiones) y mató a un indigente en NY... en 2017... Podría después tocar sobre como The Message es una canción super importante no solo por el mensaje social y la importancia de unión en la comunidad que tuvo sino como realmente la pieza importante musicalmente del disco. Hablaría de cómo el disco todavía no se siente taaaanto como hip-hop en forma y todavía guarda mucha sensación de esos discos de "mezcla de fiesta" y cómo aun se oye mucho soul y funk crudos y trasplantados.... Y ahí empiezan los problemas. Por más que quiera, fuera de The Message el disco no ha envejecido con gracia. El resto de las canciones suenan hoy en día o demasiado blandas y sin chiste, con los breaks más simples de funk copiados y pegados sin tocar nada, o se siente como experimentos que no venían al caso y simplemente no funcionan (como hacer toda una canción con voz de robot - Kraftwerk no son) o simplemente se sienten como canciones sin brillo y que hoy en día hacen bola y paja. Sí, creo que es un disco que se DEBE conocer, por su importancia cultural o histórica; pero musicalmente, con la excepción de The Message, hasta ahí se queda, como una curiosidad para ser estudiada más que para ser disfrutado como música.

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If you love your mother, if you love your mother, if you really really really really love your mother. Jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump. The first song rules. The second song I think Mariah Carey + ODB improved upon the sample. Overall, this was fun, and I assume innovative for its time. Scorpio was some cool as hell robot business. I didn't care much for the more R&B ballads, but the raps were fun in an innocent way. Almost sounds like it's written for toddlers in today's context. C+

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Not what I was expecting and feel kinda let down. Loads of shifts and didn't really get the album as a whole. Couple of decent tracks though

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'The message' is a bop, but the rest of the album is pretty meh. I really don't like the techno style of scorpio especially

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I hadn't listened to the album before. The title track is great. As an album as a whole, it felt all over the place, and dated. I couldn't tell if the mid-tracks like "Dreamin'" and "You Are" were taking the piss or not?

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Undeniably influential for the single of The Message, and probably essential for break dancing and popping. However, overlong and samey. Nice to see them give tribute back to Tom Tom Club and Stylistics cover. Single 5*, album 2*

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2/5 way too experimental for my taste.

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An album about God, Stevie Wonder and loving your Mother with some rap and groundbreaking production. Mostly the first three though. The Message is a standout, an absolute classic but can't elevate the album above a 2. Extremely dated.

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Revolutionary in its day - pretty dated listening now. Not their fault, really - this was the blueprint for so much that followed. The ballads are honking.

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“A singles-plus filler cash-in that proves a fascinating time capsule of rap's early attempts with the album format"

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I'm not impressed by this. It is really just not good. Just sounds like bad 80s music that's trying to be funky.

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I like the funky parts, but those parts didn't outshine, or even complement, the rapping.

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sample city. rent bajs, önska att jag kunde ratea 0

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Das ist unglaublich scheiße

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