The Message is the debut studio album of American hip hop group Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, released in October 1982 by Sugar Hill Records. It features the influential title track and hip-hop single "The Message".Wikipedia
The hip hop songs It's Nasty, It's a Shames and, especially, The Message are the main event. It's great to hear a rapper dealing with substantive matters rather than rapping about getting more ass than a bedpan. A friend introduced me to funk in high school so the first track works well. Scorpio sounds dated but was it original in 1982? The distorted vocals are the same as talk box sounds that were around long before 1982. Digging a little deeper, the song does have some really cool synth rinsed percussion but the synth created laser sounds were done previously on Rock the Casbah (The King called up his jet fighters . . .). I could live without the "romantic" songs ("Dreamin" and "You Are") but I understand others like such songs. The cover photo is a work of art. I remember having a boom box that I would carry with me when I walked / took the bus to the beach.
This is similar in a lot of ways to the Pharcyde album. Love the beats, although they sound a bit dated, and the lyrics are at times tragic. But the big difference is their lyrics are so plain vanilla. I mean, even songs called She's Fresh or It's Nasty are incredibly tame. Dreamin was too cheesy of an ode to Stevie Wonder although You Are got it right. But I guess all of it is better than inappropriate stuff. I just wish the album had more edge and made you think. The title track does - and that's why it is a classic - and It's a Shame too, but other tracks could do more. Scorpio was a bit too electronic at times but it might have been my favorite. All in all, I enjoyed it but it could have been 5-star if it consistently had more depth.
Cet album a parfaitement accompagné mon trajet jusqu'à la gare où mon train m'attendait dimanche dernier. Comme vous le savez probablement, Robert Dimery, fondateur de la communauté des 1001 albums, m'a chargé d'enquêter sur mon compagnon d'écoute eldiocèse qu'il souçonnait d'avoir lancé plusieurs générateurs clandestins. Ses soupçons se sont avérés puisque j'ai bel et bien réussi à infiltrer l'un d'eux appelé "Pop/Rnb/FR". Robert en a été informé et une milice est actuellement en route vers le domicile d'eldiocèse.
I am a big fan of Doug Wimbish, so naturally I was looking forward to finally hearing his bass in this. It's nice to finally get the context of the other songs besides the famous song "The Message". Yeah, some of the songs are a bit dated, but they still work. The album is 40 years old, and it definitely feels it. It's not one that transgresses its years. The synths I think really hold it back, really. Still, it's a good album, one I will come back to (except them meeting Stevie Wonder, that seems kinda stalker-ish...)
Grandmaster Flash- he eats gems and spits them out in song. This whole album could be just the message song and still get 5. Can see big influence for Outkast
A lot different than I thought it would be based on the couple of songs I knew from it. I say that in the best possible way
He went to the hat store, and he bought himself a hat HA HA. HA HA.
If you don't like this, you don't have a pulse. Also, when you realize that it basically launched the rap genre, then you have to give it a 5.
So so good! Every song has such a catchy riff. Is there a movie where the protagonists start dancing uncontrollably? Maybe Beetlejuice? That's what this record does to me - just unconsciously bopping along
dit is genieten hé, zeker een classic - Scorpio en the message is top
Scorpio track giving me Daft Punk vibes. The second half the album felt much slower than the first few songs
Seminal recording and a fascinating listen, I'm struck by how it spans the gaps between hip hop and disco, rap and soul. Much more than just the title track, and the references (both sampled and implicit) are layered in with skill, humor, and insight. This is not my genre of preference (so I'm sure I'm missing things), but this record seems the clarion call for a huge swath of contemporary music that followed. The rapping may be dated, but the record certainly isn't. The first title says it best - she's fresh!
The influence that this album had not only on so many rappers but music in general can’t be understated! Come for the beats and stay for the content. This is a lecture for your ears and your mind!
Crucial addition to hip hop that generates a very specific set of samples, as well as using a specific set of strong samples. Surprisingly laid back and R&B heavy.
Dreamin' is so city pop! Very pleasant to listen to!
Loved this album! Very fun and has a lot of style. I preferred the more upbeat songs to the ballads, but overall I really enjoyed it.
Fresh, funky and just plain cool. Brilliant album
Stellar album - funky, lucid, soulful. In the past ‘The Message’ felt like a novelty song - good but a one off showcase of the Furious Five - but it’s just the facade to a much more three dimensional album. Loved every song.
I feel like this had to be one of the most underrated rap albums from the 80s. When most people talk about rap from the 80s, I feel like the only ones that they bring up are the members from N.W.A. I can understand why, but they're not the holy grail of rap music. Most people only give a shit about two tracks they've made, and they certainly don't give a shit about their second album. This is not to downgrade their legacy since I love Dre and Ice Cube, but I think that they got better inte 90s. Here, this album is less of a gangsta-rap album and more of a jazz-rap album. Gangsta-rap is cool as shit, but I just love jazz-rap so much. This might be because I've listened to To Pimp A Butterfly so many times lately, but hearing a saxophone in a rap-track makes me cum. That's one of the best things about the album, the production is fucking amazing. On one track you either get a jazzy feel, but on the other you get a track that sounds like something that Daft Punk would make. It's just so damn refreshing hearing it, since it makes this album less dull. The signing that they do is beautiful, and it shows that the guys are super fucking talented at what they do 10/10
Absolutely magnificent. Covers so many genres brilliantly.
This is a ton of fun! Great music. Fun lyrics. Refreshing next to a lot of other hip hop and rap we’ve heard on this project. And how sweet is “Dreamin’”?! This album has me smiling!
In 1982, this record was released, and was proved to be very influential on many artists that followed. Flash and the Furious Five have made their music still hold up today with great, funky beats and masterful songwriting in tracks such as "It's Nasty and the ever-so influential "The Message". Although tracks such as "Dreamin'" really don't fit the flow of the album well-enough, despite being good songs IMO. Overall, "The Message" still continues to prove its relevance and influence today, making it a great record.
It's the originator of so much. Electro, proto rap, and I wasn't expecting the soul side so much. It also has the birth of conscious hip hop with the Message and it's less successful follow ups. And early turntablism with the Adventures of Grandmaster Flash. More importantly, it does all of this whole being great fun (except maybe a few outdated lines which scan quite homophobic these days). It's rare that an album which changes the course of music is this goody and fun.
Classic hip hop albums some of the most influential and important tracks of the 80s kickstarted a lot of rappers careers )
Already in collection, absolute masterpiece of proto-hiphop.
WOOHOO! Let's party! I can deal with life, yes! I'm gonna create an agenda for this meeting, and it's gonna be awesome. I'm not going to just deal with life, naw man, i'm gonna CELEBRATE IT! My party is started ya'll, and it ain't slowin down. Rock the meeting, rock the minutes, record the zoom, you know i'm in it! What you say about no email? I sent that mail, but I'll send it again! I don't even need to forward the orig, I love you all, without a hitch! Yo! What's that now? You want to zoom again about what I just sent? Who's that there that doesn't to read? Is it an impulsive boss with more time than me? I ain't even mad you let's chit chat! You wanna rehash yo I'm good with that! But now the party's chillin', things are slowin down, it's getting weird in here but I know why now. We gotta take a break so we can get close. It's time to find love, it's time to organize notes. It's boring, true, but there's peace in here, I gotta push through just to keep you near. CELEBRATE! I got those notes collated! Details revised, tasks designated! I'm checking off boxes, I'm setting the course, I'm takin over this project with no remorse!
Absolute fire! Energetic, intelligent, thought-provoking, pop and groove.
This was the only album released by the original Furious Five. Its not the first hip hop album (that is another discussion but arguably its Rappers Delight by Sugarhill Gang, from 1979), but its damn early and it sure is one of the more important rap albums to be released. And the album cover is as cool retro as it gets.
Funky but inconsistent. 8
8/10. This album is all over the place, but generally in a good way. I was not a big fan of "Scorpio". "You Are" was almost like a slow bit of an Earth, Wind, and Fire song. "The Message" was great, but "The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheel of Steel" was mostly just annoying, which is sad because it had such a fun name.
Not my favorite style but undoubtedly a bop. Beginning and end were strong. 8
This had a few jams, especially the first and last tracks, and the overlap of funk and hip hop is pretty interesting. As an album I don’t think this is super strong but you can’t deny its place in the development of hip hop. 7/10
El disco está bien, tiene unas 3 o 4 canciones pegajosas, pero lo que me llamo la atención es la historia detrás de la canción The Message, todo el contenido social y cómo revolucionó el rap y el hip hop, solo por eso le doy un poco más de calificación de lo que le hubiera dado. Aún no encuentro en donde pasaban la música de esa canción en unos anuncios, creo que en MTV o VH1
actually pretty good. didn't feel like it dragged on (minus the last song). 4.2 / 5
In college I wrote a paper about The Message. It made me appreciate conscious hip hop
Stone cold classic
Very good. Bluesier than expected, and top-heavy with 'The Message' but good!
Wanted to give it 5 stars, but couldn't quite get there. Refreshing, fun album.
This album is about as close as I can get to a 5 without giving it a 5. It’s hard not to get up and start popping and locking with (most) this album on. There’s some songs on here that really slap, first one and The Message in particular, The Message being one of my personal favorite songs. Hip Hop as a whole, especially Dr. Dre G-Funk and Africa Bombata, owe Grandmaster flash for pioneering the sound. The Adventures if GMF is an epic break near buffet, makes me wish I could’ve experienced one of those early dance parties at the birth of Hip Hop. This is a surprisingly eclectic album, beyond samples I heard some good instrumentation including, cello, solid piano, electronic music, crooning, rhyming and skat. Not only is the album an early hip-hop pioneer but I’d say the eclecticism is also ahead of its time. It’s funny how they are so positive in contrast to more modern hip hop, they rap about monogamous relationships and how bad drugs are, surprisingly refreshing. Though there’s a couple soft boy songs that flop in the middle if the album, mostly good, but the lyrics just kind of blow, take you out of it, most specifically the very weird ode to Stevie Wonder in the style of Stevie Wonder. Those killed the 5 for me, but damn, still a great album. A-
The production is honestly remarkable.
Funky, feels innovative even though released in 82
OMG. I don't think I'd ever listened to this full album before. What a joy to find the diversity of tracks on here.
Huge range of influential sound and styles. Disco, hip hop, r&b, electronica, soul. Some classic beats (Scorpio/message) and verses (message) as well some epic mixes (Adventure). Scorpio (higher/lower), message
Early hip-hop. Really wish I had listened to this genre more when I was younger. I guess that's why I'm doing this project though.
Deze kende ik al hoor, the get down brought me here, genieten
Nice and funky
Funky in 1983!
Performance remarquable de cette troupe d'uluberlu, qui réussit a faire de son tube majeur le plus mauvais son de l'album. C'est un petit peu comme la parodie Colors de robpanel, si vous voyez ce que je veux dire...
One of the early true hip hop albums still stands up today - you can hear it’s influence across so much great music and The Message remains an iconic classic track. Only the terrible “dreamin” holds this back from a five for me
An odd album some stevie wonder influenced soul and even some gospel. It was very preachy and found its voice in the awesome message. I enjoyed it I liked the view of 80s New York ghetto and hearing all those influences played out before hiphop got really going.
It's funky and catchy and I like it more than I expected.
OK, I was prepared to respect this album and the group for lighting the fire that lit up "the other guys and gals" in my 8th grade class in 1979. And I was prepared to re-appreciate the kitsch and glam-rock aspect the Five brought to the disco-rap transition period. And that was about it. But after the 3rd or 4th repeat listen, I found myself actually digging it deep. It's a piece of history,but somehow as fresh as a sunrise in Central Park. Can you dig it?
Really wanted to give this a 5,but outside of the well known tunes it's not really listenable.
Ahead of its time. Lyrically relevant, Every track a classic and copied mercilessly.
Was unaware that this wasn’t only a precursor to modern hip hop and mixed beats but R&B as well
This was great! Another one I'd never listened to but always knew I had to, fantastically funky
Admittedly, the hiphop scene in the 1980s seemed much more diverse in its varied styles. The debate had more than one angle, and which coast it was from seemed mostly irrelevant. Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five are excellent storytellers. This album is a testament to how that can reach a broad listenership. Light-hearted at times, honest (but not brutally) and down-to-earth at times, this is a well-rounded album. The Message is exactly that, a message. This type of positive messaging merged with realities and aspires for better is something that post-80s hiphop seems to be missing. The evolution of rap in particular has been more honest in regards to the realities, but what it doesn't do that Grandmaster Flash manages to accomplish (e.g. New York, New York) is that such realities need to be told, but what this song manages to do is provide a pathway by educating the conditions of the circumstances. The real listener to the storied realities of that song can see the escape from falling into the dangers of the streets. Great album, sadly the sentiment of its greatness is nostalgic only.
OMG I loved this. Some of the slow jamz weren't the greatest, but god bless 'em for making a song where they sing about wanting to meet Stevie Wonder. Can you imagine being him and hearing that for the first time? hahaha. I wish YouTube existed then just for the reaction video.
Seminal. Must admit I was very surprised to hear the non-rap tracks on this album but The Message is still amazing. Not sure I'd come back to listen to the whole thing as an album though so 4.5 I guess.
My son was so into this when he was on middle school. Circa 2006, he is a strange kid. Anyway solid 4
catchy Rapper's Delight vibes, but a bit less hokey. the source of a few monumental samples/easter eggs
I'm not really a hip-hop or rap fan, at least not current modern rap. But early 80's beginnings of rap and hip-hop is prime listening. Especially The Message. That song is beyond influential. It is the critical doctrine for any aspiring rappers and it is still completely relevant today. Banger.
Fresh, Funky, and surprisingly soulful. A few tracks are weaker, but the strong ones are STRONG. And this isn't even mentioning how groundbreaking it was!
8 tracks…again. The title track is iconic and you can hear the influence and samples stolen from it. Solid soul/r&b album. A great precursor to hip hop
Classic hip hop… always delivered with a healthy slice of funk and electronica!
Psychedelic guitar rock
Spotify was missing half the tracks.
This album has a little bit of everything. Very interesting listen to an obviously highly influential album.
Surprised by how much variety is on this record. A solid listen from the boys
Really funk mix of funk, soul and old school hip hop.
"Dreamin'" is so, so bad. But "The Message" is so, so good.
Reminds me of my days at the roller rink.
The title track basically created the rap genre for old white guys like me. The rest of the album left me cold as I waited impatiently to hear those famous words; "don't push me cuz I'm close to the edge, I'm trying not to lose my head", sung in that staccato rhythm. 4 🌟 just for that amazing song.
Great groove! I loved that this album came out in 2010 but had sounds of the 70s funk, 90s R&B, and more modern sounds.
This album was a jam!
I can hear the influence these guys had on so many other songs- just not my jam yesterday
For just The Message, I’m tempted to give this album a 5, but the rest of it is just fine. It is an interesting mix of R&B and early rap/hip hop, but that one song is brilliant.
The album is essential for The Message. A few other tracks are very good (I like Scorpio), but it really is all about The Message. If you were in NYC in 1982 this was inescapable.
Did not feel the urge to skip any songs.
The group handles a surprising variety of musical material for a hip-hop crew of their vintage, but there's a salient historical takeaway on here, too: The genre was dance music first, and here it's plainly that, though information-dense with the additional voices on top.
Superalbum melangeant bien des styles, the message est vraiment super et Mene le rap vers çe qu’il estaujourd,hui. C’estle highligth de l’àbum. 4
This is hot stuff. Funky, fun, and "fresh." Bruno Mars owes it all to "The Message." Can't fault it for anything except Scorpio, but I assume this is some kind of impressive DJ stuff, I guess. This is a classic otherwise and checks all the boxes. And I hope Stevie reached out to them. The Message is Fire!
So close to a 5, this is arguably a genre starting/defining album.
Simply the fact that every song on this album has been used as a sample for future songs shows how impactful this is
Good God, this album is a delight!
I loved the fun party tracks but didn't love so much the earnest serious tracks in the middle. Overall, a good time!
I really enjoyed the sound of the old-school hip hop here. I could imagine break dancers performing as I listened. Now, when the slower tracks came on, I was a bit startled and less impressed. That dreaming about Stevie song was a little strange...
This album is fun but holy shit it is just pure chaos! Every song has like fifty different shifts and it's wild as fuck to listen to. I'm kind of a fan, really. A lot of these sounds would've been fresh as fuck 40 years in the past. They were really forward-thinking imo.
Whew. Excellent album. And now I know where the sample for "Rapper's Delight" came from. For an album made 40 years ago this sound still feels very fresh, aside from the occasional synth misfire ("Scorpio" is an embarrassment imo). But for every misfire on this album there are about 3 classics. An excellent experience overall, well worth the listen. Fave is the title track but "She's Fresh" deserves an honorable mention for the fresh, funky sound.
There are some albums that transcend even the music recorded on them based on their historic impact. This is one of them. It’s just too bad that there are some awful clunkers in the middle of it.
Feels slow and old school these days, but clear how early it was and what it led to. I expected it to be more rap through and through, but the interludes of more R&B stuff did a lot to help break this up and keep it interesting to me. 3.4 rounding up.
Fun album, well outside my normal sphere. Interesting to hear how many sections I recognize from other songs - be it sampling something from here or both tracks sampling something else
Rating: 7/10 Best songs: The message, Message II
This album is old school hip hop and funk. It has the sampling of other songs with the record scratching and everything. Then they add their own lyrics to it. The song to Stevie Wonder was fun. There are other songs that were later used in rap songs. I liked the album and listened to it again right after I finished it.
On the surface it seems saturated with cheese but it was actually a very enjoyable listen if you apply the trusty time, space and place lens Obviously ground breaking stuff in terms of production methods. Pleasantly surprised by the more soulful numbers, especially Dreamin'.
Classic, still (sadly) relevant, and insightful. Really interesting to hear from the start of rap and hip-hop, and an album that was an inspiration to so many throughout the years since.
Funky as can be, bass lines are incredible, but for me I really only liked half the entire album. Overall sounds incredible and was an easy listen
This one surprised me! I really didn’t expect to like this so much because I’m not usually a fan of hip-hop. That said, I preferred the first couple songs and the last couple songs; the stuff in the middle wasn’t my thing.
Funky fresh. Rap, Funk, rnb all rolled into one. So much to discover
I'm not an expert on hip hop and it's not my preferred genre, but there is a joy in this music that is largely absent from hip hop today.
Classic. Didn't know they used that beat that's in It's Nasty
Today we have something a little different from all the 70s rock that seems to have been recommended recently. I’m excited for this one - I always felt that old school hip hop was so much better than modern day rap. I’d take Sugarhill Gang over Dave any day. Songs I already knew: The Message Favourite after listening: The Message, She’s Fresh Overall: 8/10 I really enjoyed this album. The highlights were definitely bookending the album, with She’s Fresh at the front and The Messgage at the back, but the songs in between have excellent funk, rapping and singing. There are some fairly odd lyrics at times - such as an ode to god in You Are as well as an ode to Stevie Wonder in Dreamin’, but it didn’t stop me from dancing like Tommy Verceti for the duration. An easy recommendation for anybody who enjoys older rap music.
This is a fun record. 80s hip hop is so different to what we have today. And this is a great entry into that world.
I like this. I’d listen to it again.
awesome bass throughout the album
Still so fun to listen to. What tunes! It’s not quite 5 star for me.
There's definitely some filler but a ton of hip hop innovation at work as well. Aside from the historical significance, a solid album overall in its own right.
Funny how despite the legendary status and even now we have radio stations that play album tracks, I still haven't heard anything other than the two obvious classic tracks at the end here. Most of the rating goes to that, genre-defining. Mention also to Scorpio. The 'Expanded edition' deleting the wheels of steel though is a weird move given it's the second best thing here.
Trevligt att lyssna på! Intressant hur de låtar på denna skiva som är hiphop inte låter nära på lika föråldrat som mycket annat från 80-talet. Dreamin' är en sån söt och swag hyllningslåt! Därtill är pärmbilden swag, definitivt bland de bättre.
I rock with this. Musically somewhere between funk and hip-hop, it starts of fun and high energy but moves in quite a few directions throughout it’s mere 36 or so minute runtime. I found that it has aged better than some of the other old-school hip-hop albums on here, but maybe that’s just me
It's easy to make fun of how cheesy this album is, but it was revolutionary in '82. Mad respect.
How can you fail to be charmed by this album? Every inch of it oozes confidence; a bunch of guys doing something new but with total conviction that everything they are making is pure gold. And what do you know? They were right. "Scorpio" is still a thrilling listen and "Its a Shame" is still as poignant now as it was when it was written. A incredibly entertaining and well put together album.
A Hip Hop album that's under an hour long?! I am immediately erect. Cheesy, but a good kind of cheese. The fun and funky fresh kind. I enjoyed most of the tracks here, especially the title track. I also liked the complete curveball that "Scorpio" was.
Classic rap sounds, fun listening. Now I want to listen to more by them.
Not a huge fan of specifically Scorpio and You Are. Everything else rules. She’s Fresh is the best!
- oh the beginning of She's Fresh is tingly - bass!!!!! - is that a kazoo?? love it - like these sci fi vibes in Scorpio (having said that its getting a little old as the song goes on) - Another One Bites the Dust by Queen?! (the Wikipedia page for this song is all other songs and i just only recognize one, great lol) overall impressions, at the beginning thought this might be a 5 star album but it kind of lost me in the second half. really enjoyed though.
Rap breakthrough album. It’s fresh.
Pretty groundbreaking stuff. The title track is a classic. Unfortunately I can't find the full album anywhere, but from what I've heard it's a 4/5.
For the time, this feels very innovative. You still hear these samples in modern music even today...
Classic in the way the Pantheon is: foundational to just about everything that came after.
This album is super fun, it reminds me of Boys II Men. I did not expect a ballad, but it is really nice -- Yesterday. Can't Keep Running Away is so good!
It's pretty wild how stuff like this was able to come together and sound so fun. Some interesting new-wavey bits. A real hybrid record bringing together lots of disparate things. Some of the soul songs feel a bit like filler, but this album marked a cultural transition, so it can be forgiven.
66. Olha sempre em frente. Vai com calma. Não ligues à gordura nos manípulos. MotA: The Message - Instrumental "Fresh"
the none hip hop songs are good
Track The Message itself is fantastic but the rest is of its era I think
Was ready to give this an auto 5 beforehand as I love their singles and their status as early pioneers, but scorpio is proper shit, dreamin' and you are are really not what I was expecting, and really quite rubbish (if you were hyped for some old school hip hop).
The message es la rola, se nota que todo va centrado a esa canción por qué es la única aparte del intro que suena diferente, todo lo demás parece ser el mismo beat, el mismo efecto y el mismo sampleo de sintetizador repetido N cantidad de veces (entre ellas new York New York que es buena también)
Loses a star for the awful song about stevie wonder
Gewone goede hip hop.
Has a couple of really well known tracks, including the message. Albums is culturally significant.
Hip Hop pioneers whose album was unfortunately only half available, hard to review the album like this
I was starting work for the day so I mindlessly clicked for my next album and pressed play, I half noticed the 2010 tag on Spotify and was like “this is anachronistic af” lol, I’m familiar with the early hip hop creators and of course I know about Grandmaster Flash so I find this quite interesting. Having said that, this carries its time stamp very heavily, and it’s a bit cringe by today’s standards (I mean, can’t imaging those 6 minutes about how they love Stevie not making mister Wonder very uncomfortable lol). but we have to recognize that this was groundbreaking and the quality of Flash’s art. Am I going to give it a 3 mainly for The Message (song) yes I am.
Disgraceful that I have never listened to this album before. Sounds very '80s. No doubt that this was and is a significant album, but it is too late for me to truly enjoy it.
The message är det som tar denna från en 2a till en 3a
First Listen. I know a couple of the songs, but the rest is new to me. Love it on first listen. Standouts: The Message, Scorpio, It's Nasty, It's a Shame 3/5
It's easy to write this off as "hokey" - but these guys basically invented rap, so big props for that. I mean, not only did they popularize a movement and a genre, but Grandmaster Flash is also credited with creating some of the technology that made DJing (as an art form) possible - rewiring shit from Radio Shack so he could hear one record in his headphones while another one was playing in the speakers. Highlights are obviously "The Message" and "The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash" - but it's all intriguing.
It was quite hard to take this seriously at first as it sounds exactly like a Look Around You parody of early rap. I’ll all for a positive message but the song about wanting to meet Stevie Wonder is a bit… odd? By the time it reached the title track though (and some of the expanded edition extras) it seemed like Flash had figured out the genre and laid a bit of a blueprint for socially conscious rappers of the future. Includes some probably-very-influential hip-hop production too.
another album that was clearly very influential to others but it didn't excite me that much, a couple of big tunes, lots of filler
Second listen - in a week. Ok. Enjoyed it the first time, this time it was great too. Still only a 3/5 for me though. Some really great songs are left for the bonus tracks.
Love old school hip-hop and this has a game changing lead track. But too many fillers and needs more GM Flash.
Probably more influential than good these days. Clearly still working out how to make rap albums, quality varies a lot
Sounds very dated not and some frankly dreadful tracks on here (dreamin, you are) but you can’t deny the significance of this album or indeed it’s brilliance in parts also. The message is an absolute classic
Mostly forgettable, but not terrible to listen to. Good background music. "The Message" is good for it's commentary, but not the music. Highlight Track: "The Message"
It's not bad, but not my cup of tea. I liked guitar in It's a Shame.
old school nice
It has a few head bobbing hits, but some real slow boring ones near the end. im still learning how to rate. 1 is obviously garbage, 2 is something i can take from it, 3 is some good hits and replays (could make it through twice), 4 is good, like has songs i will listen to outside this challenge, and 5 is rare but like nearly if not all songs are either great or connect to me in some way. with that in mind … between 2 and 3, so 3.
I've heard the hits before, but honestly had no idea who played them (this is becoming a regular thing now). This is why I love the 1001 Albums Generator. It gives me context for all the tracks I have heard in the past, but never knew who the artist was. I feel like I should have discovered this record a long time ago. I mean look at this album cover. I don't really see myself listening to this kind of stuff on the regular. It's a bit dated and cheesy, although that's also why it's fun. This is music you want to hear live or at a party. Alone on a computer isn't exactly the best way to appreciate this album, but I dig it.
Always thought early 80’s hip hop was a bit cheesy, this does sound a bit dated now, but enjoyed it much more than I expected. Can see the influence it had and the lyrics are still relevant in 2021. Scorpio great track reminds me of daft punk.
This was a fun listen and The Message is still one of the all-time greatest rap songs, its held up remarkably well after all these years.
So, I’ve read that Grandmaster Flash was the first DJ to ever put his fingers on vinyl, which changed DJing for ever. The title track is epic. It paints a vivid picture of ghetto life in NYC in the 70-80s (as does the LP cover) and influenced a lot of others. Since I couldn’t find any sample credits anywhere, I guess synth hook is original? I like the song that samples The TomTom Club where one of the 5 raps about the joys of monogamy! Times have changed.
Title track and Nasty are great. Rest of the album feels like filler.
Message still sounds crisp. Love hearing the classic machine sounds but mixed in with great bass playing.
This is such an inconsistent listen - topped and tailed by moments of true brilliance ('She's Fresh' - lovely Jimmy Castor Bunch sample, 'The Message') but the meat of the sandwich is hard yakka. 'Scorpio' is almost top tier, a great electro number, but it reaches its nadir when the Furious Five fall over each other to suck up to Stevie Wonder.
I was already pretty familiar with The Message, the song. But I wasn't ready for Dreamin', which seems like it's from a different album altogether. Really appreciate the robot voices on Scorpio. Pretty fun listen all the way around.
Förvånandsvärt catchy, även om det är nåt jag kanske inte kommer lyssna på dagligen. Det kan nog finnas en del godingar att extrapolera härifrån.
Otippad range på plattan? Har hört the message (låten) flera gånger men tänkte att grand master flash var en lite plojjig artist. Mycket bra finns att hämta! kommer återkomma till denna flera gånger!
Jag tyckte att det va ganska så fett för de bryr sig inte om att matcha texterna till humöret och det respekterar jag...!!!
okay bit funky
Scorpio really gave me some electro vibes. Whole lotta pop-n-lock/break dancing music here. Honestly not sure I’d ever chose to listen to this again, but I appreciate that this is an important part of the Black music/dance/DJing/hip-hop landscape. Two stars for listenability, another star for historical importance.
This is an album I can appreciate for what it is, but I don't know that I would go out of my way to listen again. I know these guys were rap pioneers and much of the album seems to bridge the gap between 70s funk/R&B and 80s rap. I enjoyed the bass on this album (Doug Wimbish, who later joined Living Colour), particularly on She's Fresh and It's a Shame (especially the last minute of the track). I also liked the Tom Tom Club backing track for It's Nasty. Favorite track was The Message. As soon as I heard the "ah-huh-huh-huh" and "it makes me wonder how I keep from going under" my immediate reaction was, "hey, they did that in Hamilton" (with the line "it makes me wonder why I even bring the thunder" and the laughing when they're singing "you don't have the votes"). I'm not a big rap fan, so I think I missed out on a lot of callbacks in Hamilton...I feel like I'm getting schooled in rap history during the 1001 albums journey and I'm enjoying it more than I expected I would. Calling it a 3 primarily because the album just didn't blow me away but I definitely enjoyed it.
The Message and a nice sample / cover thing of Genius of Love. And a couple surprising RnB tracks. This would have been super innovative when it came out in the early 80s.
One of those albums that's insanely important for moving the genre forward, but hasn't aged all that well. Certain songs (the entirely voice-boxed "Scorpio") are total misses, while certain songs (the title track) are just awesome, and still have a very important message (heh.) With context, good. If you weren't super into rap and didn't realize what the genre owed this record, pretty bad. Favorite tracks: "The Message", "You Are"
Certainly didn't expect those R&B tracks in the middle. Not sure what was sampled vs what was actually played. But some damn fine tracks on this album. 3.5/5
Leuk het begin van het de hip hop hype
This reminded me of the first time I snapped my banjo string. I enjoyed the pain.
The influence and impact this single record from Grandmaster Flash has had on Hip Hop and Rap is incredible. The samples Flash uses alone are used in so many modern songs proving his inventiveness with making catchy beats and hooks. The Furious Five also serve as one of the more atypical, but very talented MC Crews of this golden age of early hip hop.
Legendary for launching a genre, but boy, is it dated. I'm also not sure the Stevie Wonder tribute was relevant or listenable when it was released. Best track: The Message
YASS! Super classic! Love White Lines and The Message but this was so informative and interesting! Didn't realise how funky it was, like She's Fresh. And more funk than rap. Loved this. Will definitely listen to this again!
Good instrumentals and production, decent rapping all around too. Has some good songs too like Its Nasty and Scorpio. I'd say this album for me is alright, but gets a bit tedious by the end. I do appreciate the variety between early hip hop and the romatic songs as it makes it easier to listen for the first time. For some reason, I couldn't dig the title track which I know is very well regarded. Just was too long and had enough halfway through. Preferred it's sequel (Survival) in the deluxe tracks weirdly. Also really enjoyed New York New York a lot and seriously wondering why it wasn't on the original album.
Very old school hip hop.
Not.my kind of.music
It's nasty sample for sweet fantasy was a cool surprise and the message is great. More signing than I thought would be on it
back to the roots
Interesting history. This album can't be labeled as just "hip-hop" - yes there are elements of it in most songs but "Dreamin'" and "You Are" are melodic soul songs without a trace of rap. But songs like "She's Fresh" which is awesome and catchy-as-hell (a perfect opening track) and the early/timeless hit "The Message" are just fun old-school hip-hop with killer basslines/melodies. "Scorpio" sounds like something Beck would definitely have listened to and taken a lot from 15-20 years later. Interesting/cool crossover note: "The Message" influenced Genesis in 1983 so much that in their hit song "Mama" Phil Collins took that "hahahaha" laugh directly from this song. It definitely is "of the time" but for me that's what makes it enjoyable - it's definitely worth a listen now and again, especially if you really like early hip-hop. Fun. 7/10 3 stars.
I really enjoyed the beginning and end and it’s funky style but there was a stretch in the middle where it was really slow and exhausting. However the start and finish were fun and good
Eclectic mix. I like the different samples and styles.
3/5 was chill
Solid funk / proto-rap album. 7 songs and each is unique, a bit up and down. Enjoyed She's Fresh, It's a Shame, and The Message. The others were ok.
Some really good classic hip-hop. Lots of variety and I was going to say the feel was more "fun", which I enjoyed, up until the last song which definitely had some more disturbing lyrics
This album is incredibly important and for that it gets credit. However, this album is also quite uneven. It oscillates between rap, funk, electronica, and even outright easy listening in ‘You Are.’ I’m a fan of range on an album, but here it can be jarring. The bass work in this album is phenomenal and the singing is great though some of the harmonies fall flat. I’m a fan of the synth here as well as dated as it is. Lyrically this album has moments of social criticism and it’s there where it has its greatest moments. The best track by far is of course ‘The Message.’
Play that funky music, 80’er, ghettoblaster, samples
I didn’t realise the actual ‘Message’ album was quite so eclectic. Love the title track. Love Scorpio, but the rest is a bit cheesy for me, either in the soul stylings (not what I expected) or the fairly basic use of samples in places (Nasty). Still worth it for The Message itself, but would have made a better four track ep.
Love Scorpio, rest a bit dated or meh. I remember The Message seeming a bit mainstream even when it came out