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Wasn't a huge fan on first couple songs, I thought the vocals were kind of strange, but I think they grew on me upon listening more. The riffs were all really unique and pretty catchy, I just wish the sound quality wasn't so harsh on the ears (might be my recording or bad headphones). Ballads and slower songs are extremely pretty, almost haunting, and I think those stood out the most. Still definitely a good listen, but I wouldn't say it's my favorite by any stretch, the ballads like today and coming back to me definitely are going on a playlist. I'm definitely not the biggest fan of psychedelic rock but I'd recommend this to pretty much anyone
Estaba esperando algo más en la onda de some body to love, pero es más como white rabbit
Perhaps inessential outside the biggest hits, but I enjoyed it too much to really care.
Early, essential psychedelic rock. Zappa vibes pretty good
Two monstrous/timeless songs on this one I am/was very familiar with but didn't think I knew the rest of it. I wasn't too excited about getting through it as I thought it might lose my interest but I'm glad I stuck with it - the excellent blend of vocal harmonies and clearly talented musicianship make this a success. It is however definitely a product of its time; there are a few pace-interrupters (Comin Back To Me, How Do You Feel) which might have worked better [for me] without the very typical-of-the-age huge reverb. Then again, I suppose it's hard to *not* be "of the time" and the high points here make this more enjoyable than many of the era. White Rabbit used to scare the shit out of me as a kid, and is still suitably creepy. Even after hearing it a million times, it's still worthy. 6/10
I’ve heard Somebody to Love and White Rabbit before. I like the first few songs and didn’t care for the slower sad songs in the middle, I didn’t like the placement of them either. I don’t like the two songs after the sad ones either. I feel like White Rabbit really stands out, best song on the album. The beginning and end are good but the songs in the middle are kinda boring. Will probably listen to some songs again especially White Rabbit but as a whole 2/5
Loved this album all the way through. Several gems that I hadn't heard before. Enjoyed the contrast between the male vocal tracks and Grace Slick songs but wish there was a better balance because of course she absolutely killed the two big hit songs.
decent. I went in expecting a 4 but the ones outside the couple bits hits were just kinda there for me. Still enjoyable though.
Girlfriend can sing.
Ako već moram izabrati act koji mi je najdraži sa woodstocka, i općenito u tom razdoblju, rekao bih Jefferson Airplane. Ovaj album mi je odličan, slušao sam ga mnogo puta i ja ne znam šta je sa ovim algoritmom da sve nešta dobro na početku daje, umorile su mi se zvjezdice. Ovo je definitivno kvalitetna psihodelija. Fenomenalan početak albuma sa She Has Funny Cars, pa dalje nastavlja na kultni klasik "Somebody To Love" na dalje, gdje ide s pjesmom Today kojoj se zapravo najviše vraćam na ovom albumu jer je predivnoća, pa dalje na Comin' Back To Me, 3/5 of a Mile in 10 Seconds, Embryonic Journey, White Rabbit naravno iako mi nije u top 3 sa albuma i tako dalje. Jako dobrih naslova, preporuka uvijek! Znam da dajem sve po 4 zvjezdice, al ovo to zaslužuje, pogotovo bar zbog 4-5 pjesama da nose toliki rejting. 4.1/5
Ju betaaa fajiiiiiiiiind <3
fucking joy to listen to
Pretty fire
A fantastic album from the heyday of psychedelic rock. 8.6/10 Best Tracks: "Somebody to Love" "White Rabbit"
a psychedelic classic, never got bored of it. “comin’ back to me” is so haunting.
Some standout songs but mostly forgettable 60s psych pop
Classic sound of SF, couple of massive hits supported by a bunch of fantastic songs.
Discazo de la banda de rock psicodélico afincada en San Francisco causantes de que se diese a conocer a una escala más internacional la cultura hippie de los 60 y pioneros del movimiento psicodélico motivado por el consumo de LSD. Unos fucking cracks.
Listen man, when White Rabbit peaks, I want you to throw the cassette player into the bathtub. What are you crazy? That'll send you straight through the wall.
fav: white rabbit nice: somebody to love, 3/5 of a mile in 10 seconds
War mir zu Boomer, aber manche Lieder waren ganz gut.
Eine Band, die man nur als Radiohörer kannte besser kennengelernt! Hat sich gelohnt!
Almost gave this a 5. I've always loved White Rabbit and Want Someone to Love but the whole album truly holds up. I love the production sound, the instrumentals, and Grace Slick's voice is just perfect for the sound of the era. Maybe I should have made this a 5...
Evolutionary step. In meiner Wahrnehmung nicht unmittelbarer Bestandteil einer revolutionären Entwicklung
This album shows why Jefferson Airplane was a hugely popular and influential group for their time. With iconic tracks and the gentle stylings of the late 60's it is a shame to see that this resulted in Jefferson Starship.
1967 - USA The album is considered to be one of the quintessential works of the early psychedelic rock and 1960s counterculture eras. Like "Somebody to love"
Interessant. Bo per passar es temps i no prestar gaire atenció. Bln acompanyant.
We've had quite a few 'flower power' records so far and whilst there are some interesting highlights on each of them, they do get a bit lost in surreal and self indulgent LSD expressions. I thought with a title like 'surrealistic pillow' this would be the same but for the most part each song is tightly structured with interesting (and grounded) lyrics. 'comin back to me' is hauntingly beautiful.
Overall more chill than I expected from their hits. Prefer the hits over the overall album, a little bit too low energy for me. Pretty cool vibe though
Good album - Has had a big impact on modern culture: White Rabbit appears in a great scene in Platoon in the underground bunker and Embryonic Journey is the song in the final scene of Friends, quite seismic cultural moments. The best song for however is Today.
Just painfully average. A bit like an ASDA frozen pizza. It’s not terrible and it’s nice but there are many better options out there. Every song sounds a little samey. Somebody To Love is clearly the best song on there and there’s a reason it’s their only hit single. There is absolutely no need for this album to have 17 songs on it.
Some absolute classics on here and overall a really enjoyable listen. Great 60s psychedelic rock.
Flying my freak flag baby.
Some decent moments but not for me
Amazing album! Definitely on the more psychedelic side and very summer of love.
Reportedly, the members of Jefferson Airplane were not pleased with producer Rick Jarrard's efforts to discipline them, feeling that the results were unrepresentative of the band. If you ask me, he's a fucking hero. On opener She Has Funny Cars, the band all but falls apart. The vocals are wobbly, the rhythm section is shaky and the lead guitarist is mediocre both in terms of ideas and execution. The song structure is more complex than the composers can handle. Jefferson Airplane fares better on the more straightforward numbers, like the following Somebody To Love. Grace Slick vocals are passionate and I like her phrasing here, even if she only just pulls it off. My Best Friend is warm and charming, when it could have easily been sloppy, the more shambolic tendencies of the band reined in by the producer. The folk-influenced Today has a fragile arrangement, kept just on the side of coherence by, once again, the producer. Another folk ballad, Comin' Back To Me, much beloved by "sensitive young men" on the make because it was easy to play and sing, doesn't come across as particularly sincere, but then again, maybe I'm being too cynical. 3/5 Of A Mile In 10 Seconds is another thankfully straightforward uptempo rocker with some nice hooks. And so it goes. Throughout the album, the carefully pruned arrangements and short running times save the band from themselves time and time again. The selections are evenly split between folkie type numbers, uptempo rockers and mid tempo pop tunes, which was probably wise. It allows different aspects of the band to shine, and paired with the infallible instincts of the canny producer, make Jefferson Airplane seem far more competent than they actually are. Personally, I'd rather listen to a band that has its shit together and doesn't need to be shepherded into making a listenable album, which Surrealistic Pillow admittedly is. Surrealistic Pillow saves it's best song for next to last. White Rabbit has a genuinely innovative structure packed into a harrowing two minutes and thirty-three seconds. Then we're back to the wooly and half-assed psychedelia of Plastic Fantastic Lover. As noted elsewhere, Surrealistic Pillow was a commercial smash. Thanks to producer Rick Jarrard, Jefferson Airplane managed to get away with borderline amateurish performances, songwriting and overall musicianship and come out of it looking like geniuses, at least to the greater public. Ungrateful shmucks. 3.5/5
She
Great psychedelic album that I will revisit again.
One of the best
meh - bit boring psychedelia for moi
Esta madre tiene 54 años. Es como si en 1967 escucharas la versión original de El Condor Pasa, parte de una zarzuela escrita por el peruano Daniel Alomía Robles en 1913. O La Consagración de la Primavera de Stravisinky. Se me hace muy loco que siga siendo parte de la cultura popular, que se siga escuchando. La masificación de la cultura popular y su registro en físico cambiaron las cosas para siempre, ¿no? Suena medio mamón pero es una forma de romper la relación espacio-tiempo. A lo que voy es que los integrantes de Jefferson Airplane no escuchaban cosas de 1913 como nosotros si hacemos con cosas de 1967. Y ciertamente su música no suena a nada de 1913. Y hoy hay millones de bandas que suenan a este disco, por decir, Today suena Brian Jonestown Massacre. Hay mucho blues aquí, hay algo del folk de principios de los 60, la escena niuyurkina de donde salió Dylan, incluso hay algo del Dylan eléctrico. Luego con muchos discos de la época, ya vienen con la asociación a la lisergia de la época, uno los escucha a través de ese prisma de colores aunque no suene a algo que escucharías drogado. Creo que este es uno de esos en donde el ácido no está parejo en todos los tracks. Pero cuando pega, pega duro: Today, 3/5 of a Mile in 10 seconds, Go to Her, D.C.D.A. -25 tiene sus momentos en que suena a R.E.M. También creo que la potencia lisérgica de la banda está en la voz de Grace Slick. Podría escribir un libro sobre Grace Slick. Hay algo en su voz: un entrecruce de lujuria, seducción, belleza, terror y violencia como en White Rabbit. En Embyronic Journey se adelantan años al sonido de country acústico semi pachecón de Dylan en Nashville Skylines. ¡Y todo empieza con un Bo Diddley beat!
Enjoyed the songs I recognised and liked the mixed vocal talents but turned off halfway through
Jerry Garcia (Grateful Dead) listed as spiritual adviser for some album tracks. LOL. These guys were definitely high AF on this album - clearly some shrooms from the Psychedelic tones. I imagine they had a lot of fun and remember none of it when making this album. Late 60's, Summer of Love, Charles Manson + Family vibes.
reminded me of a knock off fleetwood mac
This album is amazing - so much love for these talents. Genuine soundtrack of the failed social revolution - get your fat pipe out and start groovin' to irrepressible sixities beats and kaleidoscopic riffs.
Not bad, enjoyed the big numbers but the rest passed me by. Quite long
I really like this album. I knew several of the tunes, of course, but the ones with which I was unfamiliar were really good too.
Leuk om eens een heel album van deze gasten te luisteren. Uiteraard de 2 hits zijn super en de rest volgt op gepaste afstand.
It was alright. 2RS
I enjoyed listening to it. ***
Kende er meer van ik dacht, erg cool!
Niet helemaal kunnen luisteren, maar ken dit album vrij goed. Vooral de Grace Slick nummers springen eruit, maar een nummer als Today vind ik ook zeer fraai.
Nooit verder gekomen dan de paar hits. De rest is ook zeker de moeite waard.
Verrassend, juist de nummers die ik nog niet kende.
Pari hittibiisiä ja sitten vähän sekalainen setti muuta. Bluesit oli turhan junnaavia meikäläisen makuun.
Van somebody to love. Dit is wel een van de beste jaren 60 albums
Solid album. I especially fell in with it near the end with some of the bluesy guitar jams (“in the morning”, “go to her”, “come back baby”), but there was a lot of good stuff throughout. Some of the stuff felt a little hokie or dated for me (something about the vocal harmonies maybe). Overall quite good
Best songs were when Grace Slick was lead vocals. If she was the main vocalist on all the tracks it would’ve gotten a higher score
Classic psychedelic album. Beautiful songs, gorgeous harmonies fantastic vibe
Probably a 2.5, enjoyed it
2 decent songs. The rest pretty pedestrian.
2 good songs, nothing special.
Only listened to half of it.
Some decent tunes, not exactly inspiring.
Nothing mindblowing here but this was definitely a nice listen with a few standout tracks! This fits right in to what I already know from this genre and time period. (specifically I caught a lot of moments that were reminiscent of Tommy) Vocal performances are good enough that I really don’t mind the some of the goofier lyrical moments, and the female singer reminds me a lot of Florence Welch. Probably will revisit this!
01/26 - Yesterday I worked on many different things within the Manufacturing building, from updating wall types and work areas to match slab demo to researching the Hilti rated cover at the penthouse penetration. I also helped Courtney with view range issues and worked on developing sleeves to go around process piping points in Chrom. Jefferson Airplane was a very interesting band to read about and even more interesting of a band to watch a performance of. However, Surrelistic Pillow was an okay album and was not very motivational for getting me through the work day. My favorite song on this album was Somebody to Love
i enjoyed this one. might seek out some more
Really enjoyed this. Catchy songs with lovely harmonies. Has a really nice energy.
Its times like this that I'd changed my rating system earlier. So this is just OK which is now going to be 2 stars from here on...
Not my thing at all. Hippies.
El clasico rokowania psychodelicznego w stylu hippisowskim, albumik, a moze nawet i grupa pokolenia woodstokowego, ktore rozwinelo ten gatunek rokowania, cecha charakterystyczna tego grania sa gitarki na niektorych trackach nawet x4, nie liczac basu, wiec mocno riffowanie, ale jak dla mnie rzecza ktora wyroznia akurat ten album jest wokal jaki sprzedaje na nim Grace, ktora zasluguje na swoje nazwisko Slick, bo wokal jest tak gladki, ze mozna go sluchac na okraglo, to wlasnie kawalki na ktorych jest ona glownym glosem staly sie punktami rozpoznawalnymi zespolu, bo kto nie zna white rabbit czy somebody to love, ale kolejnym dziwem jest to, ze nie jest to jednak glowny wokal plyty, bo wiecej kawalkow opiera sie na wokalu Balina, tak w ogole to czesto w traku wystepuja 3 wokale dosc rotacyjnie i chorkowo, ale to jest wlasnie jeden z elementow budujacych psychodeliczny klimat, na plejke nie mam co dodac, bo kawalki o ktorych wspominalem juz tam sa, a kolejne today czyli dosc folkowy kawalek z spokojna gitarka szarpana na najwyzszych wokalach balinowych jakie mozna uslyszec tutaj rowniez juz byl na plejliscie, a to wedlug mnie gemy tego odsluchu, na spotifajowej wersji mozna znalesc takze wersje mono white rabbita i somebody to love, fajnie gdyby calosc mozna bylo posluchac nagrane w ten sposob
Some decent tracks but very dated
I really liked the way the music sounded, though there weren't a lot of songs that stood out to me. I definitely want to listen to it again when I am not trying to navigate seatac airport.
Muy agradable. Recibo lo que espero del rock psicodélico + un toque de folk, a ratos incluso hasta dark folk, la voz de la vocalista muy cool. Buenos solos de guitarra, buenas vibras. Canción favorita: somebody to love que tiene esa energía que hasta ahora no percibo mucho el renacimiento del género en las bandidas hipster de neo psicodélico. Mood del disco: Bailando desnudo con alegría en un campo de flores y después deprimido y sintiendome muy malote manejando en una carretera forestal en un estado gringo del midwest.
I get why people like it. There are catchy melodies and fun guitar riffs, but it’s too slow and repetitive for my taste. Puts me to sleep.
5.5
Disc de l'època. Té la facultat de transportar-te a un lloc i un temps que tot i no viure'l el pots sentir a través de les cançons. No és poca cosa. També té dos temes tan mítics com 'Somebody to Love' i 'White Rabbit'
Rock sesentero. Un megahit.
Seems awesome, but it is not complete in spoty
Sounds alright. I like the popular songs off this album and the rest are mostly forgettable.
good tunes
About what I expected. Some great bangers like White Rabbit and Somebody to Love, but if I had to pick another track I liked I'd go with 'Plastic Fantastic Lover'
Some of the better drug induced music from the 70s. Really enjoyed this. I knew a number of the tracks, which always helps.
7/10 bonito, una me gusta por the cable guy, fin.
Really good, so many big hits
Otro álbum con un marcado sonido de su época (?), es de esos que puedo escuchar más como de fondo que involucrarme totalmente. Me gusta, sin embargo, cuando hay pistas instrumentales, "Embryonic Journey" tiene unas guitarras acústicas y su sonido folk le ofrece un buen preámbulo a una canción que sí me gusta mucho (y conocía por su amplio uso en la cultura pop): "White Rabbit". Definitivamente, creo que cuando la voz de Grace Slick se nota más es cuando más me gusta este disco (por ejemplo, el hitazo "Somebody to love"). 7.5/10
A puristic loser will pan this album, but I really liked it, especially Embryonic Journey
Classic 60s vibe and great vocal harmonies!
Surprisingly coasts on the classics “Somebody to Love” and “White Rabbit”. 5/10
Es Jefferson...
A review for Haiku Tuesday: Early Psych Rock, Huh? Some fun weird tracks are in here. Still doesn't nail it.
this was great.
Always loved psychedelic rock. This is a great record.
Siempre pensé en Jefferson Airplane (o más bien en sus Someone to Love y White Rabbit) como la banda de máxima expresión en todo aquel Summer of Love, mezclando folk, rock bien bien psicodélico y drogas... muchas muchas drogas con un poco de drogas encima. Algo que no sabía es que aquí fue la primera vez que cantó Grace Slick y siento es lo que HACE a la banda. Del inicio de She has Funny Cars se siente la voz fuerte y definida, Somebody to Love pegajosa a madres e icónica. De ahí algo que no esperaba… Hay una buena cantidad de canciones en el disco que le bajan al rock y psicodelia y se regresan a ser mucho mucho más folk. No son mis favoritas y en mi opinión, aunque bastante bien hechas, le quitan un poco el estilo que más me gusta del disco. White Rabbit es impresionante que una marcha española tipo bolero termine siendo la canción más representativa de toda la época de alucinógenos en los 60s, más impresionante aún que siendo tan tocada y quemada ya en tantas películas, series, etc. me sigue encantando. Llegué esperando canciones con el sonido de rock y ácido y terminé escuchando una mezcla de eso con canciones que parecen de los Mamas and Papas y The Byrds.No fue lo que esperaba pero fue un muy buen disco. PD. Igual el disco está lleno de hippies y drogas drogas… Perfecto para espantar padres en ’67. PD2. Grace Slick de verdad impresionante, debería ser más reconocida a la par de Janis, Stevie Nicks o Patti Smith.
Nope
Feed your Head you hippies
i'm loving hearing how these early stereo albums discovered how to work with 2 channels. i'm not a huge fan overall, but the jack casady's bass work on this album is terriffic.
Eh. Not my cup of hallucinogenic tea, but an interesting listen.
This one was alright. I knew a couple of the songs, but there were some that were a bit strange, lyric-wise. Which I guess is to be expected with the album title.
Great energy and moods
Yeah totally dug this album! Of course there's Want Somebody To Love and White Rabbit but the rest of the songs were great there was also Comin' Back To Me which was hauntingly beautiful. Would totally put this on at the mammoth house to chill out to. Solid as fuck
Solid. Love some songs and others are so so
Really nice instrumental piece on this album called “Embryonic Journey”. Spotify seems to be missing some tracks, but “Somebody to Love” and “White Rabbit” remain great tracks and the highlights of this album.
Very good album. Grace Slick’s vocals are distinctive and powerful. Find and check out the isolated vocal track for ‘White Rabbit’.
Smooth easy listening, straight out of the 60’s. You can definitely hear how they inspired a ton of other bands in that era.
Classics, really good
Embryonic Journey is one of my favorite pieces of music. Jorma really impresses. A classic psychedelic journey back to the 60s
s h i t
my dad thinks that people who like jefferson airplane are rich kids who dodged the war because they were rich and think they're deeper than they actually are which honestly makes sense but this album was decent
este é um daqueles que fez 100% parte da minha rotação no secundário/8°-9° mas não o oiço desde essa altura so it will be nice white rabbit still goes so hard bass line come back baby!!! ou nunca tinha o ouvido de uma ponta à outra (possible but doubtful) ou esqueci-me da maior parte. its great tho! 4.5/5
Not really my vibe. Nice album, but kind of just not for me.
I don't think that I actually know that the two big hits on this album were by Jefferson Airplane. Basically when it comes to certain strains of classic rock, there is a big batch of songs whose artists I don't know and a big batch of artist names I know whose songs I can't identify. I didn't listen to this album as closely as some others, but I did listen to it 3-4 times, and I liked it. The rest of the songs fit right in with the hits. My personal enjoyment: 4/5 Did it belong on this list: 5/5
Good album
ok I’m bored of doing this when no one else does, so no effort to write my amazing reviews any more 💔
White Rabbit. The rest of the album is pretty similar...jangly, acoustic, hippie pop.
got dull really quickly
Can definitely hear the sounds of San Francisco during the hippie movement in this album 9/10
Classic 60s Sound
Pleasantly surprised quite enjoyed. Nice beats and tunes
Long and boring aside from White Rabbit and anytime Grace Slick sings.
3.5| Acabé conociendo mas rolas de lo que creía, muy buena banda. Tiene cosas muy raras como un tremendo blues en medio de tanta psicodelia. Sin duda una voz icónica la de Grace Silk y ni idea de que fueran los mismos de Starship.
3.5 | Muy buenos momentos de lo más groovy psicodélico: a ratos pesa el estilito de cantar los coros como el que no me gusta de CSNY, pero cuando cantan directo, en particular cuando entra la voz de Grace Slick, suenan muy bien. Además de recordar a Cable Guy con "Somebody To Love" me gustaron "Go To Her", "White Rabbit" y "Come Back Baby" No sé por qué en la cultura pop gringa son tan conocidos y en México a duras penas llegó a sonar una o dos en Universal. ¿Sí cacharon la última rola que suena en el último episodio de Friends?
Some excellent songs on this album - White Rabbit, Somebody to Love
Bangin and iconic.
Mochi
false
Surprisingly variable song type/style through the album.
Somebody to love is a banging pop song and White rabbit a memorable slice of Lewis Carroll inspired oddness. The rest was fairly unremarkable - the soundtrack to a sixties teenage bedroom full of long hair, paisley, and hashish.
@@@½ nice early psychedelic sounds. nice guitar too.
Classic old rock. Songs kinda blend together but I can appreciate it. Has the classic song “Somebody to love”
I'm really into this! The late 60s/early 70s have such a unique sound. White Rabbit is the only one I've heard before, but it's always made me paused to admire it. So good.
There are some classics off of this album, but I went through my Jefferson Airplane phase in college.
I really rather enjoyed this. There are plenty of good songs and the album has been put together really well, each song in exactly the spot it needed to be. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. A fun listen.
Great album! Featuring White Rabbit and Somebody to love.
Classic. Love it.
Couple good singles on here. Very organic sounding. Decent enough
Oldie but a goodie. Mixing is definitely dated but the sound is fire
Good, not as psychedelic as I was expecting. More Beatles/mamas&papas/Simon and Garfunkel folk 60s vibes.
Funky 60s vibe.
Like this. Great musicianship, good songs, well produced. Definitely one of the better psychedelic records from the 60s.
Have already listened
A fun foray into psychedelic rock. A couple bangers.
Didn't realize I knew so many songs! The hits were still my favorite (white rabbit, find somebody to love) but all of it was good
Ugh. Maybe it was because I was listening to this while working but I couldn't get on with it. In fact, it was quite annoying in the background. Clever musically but too 'busy' for me in my current mood. I have no desire to listen to this album again. Best tracks are White Rabbit and Someone To Love. 2/5
Sama biisi eri variaatioilla
This was good - especially someone to love!
Great album, more than a 2 hit wonder
Not really my cup of tea but certainly listenable.
Psykedelisk 60’er rock, få standouts
Monipuolinen levy, muttei liian. Muutama timanttikin joukossa, mut pari tylsää biisiä pudottaa arvosanaa
Got better as it went along. 3.5
Cool early psychedelic rock sound. Favorites include "My Best Friend" and "Somebody to Love".
This sounds clearly like an important album in the development of folk rock, and a few tracks are quite good. I found not the singles but the B-side (and bonus tracks) to be most interesting. The relative of blandness of the first half is unfortunate, as there is a clear, incomplete image of excellent pop music. Though I'm tempted, no malus for the cover's violin bait-and-switch.
1967. Key Songs: Somebody to Love, White Rabbit
Last three songs - “White Rabbit,” especially - go hard.
Awesome psycadaelic rock classic
Better than I expected. Good mix of hard hitting songs and calmer relaxed songs.
this isn't too bad, nice lil catchy numbers. Thank fuck it wasn't more turd like iggy pop. Also, Jim Carrey did the best version of somebody to love. 3/5.
A bit hippy dippy.... it’s not my thing but I can appreciate that it is others.