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Throwing Muses

Throwing Muses

1986

Throwing Muses
Album Summary

Throwing Muses is the 1986 debut album of the band Throwing Muses, released on British independent label 4AD. This was the first album by an American band to be released on 4AD, which had concentrated primarily on British-based acts up to this point. The release marked a shift in the label's direction; a year later 4AD would sign Pixies based in part on the band's connection to Throwing Muses, and by the mid-1990s much of the label's roster was made up of American bands. AllMusic calls the album a "powerful debut" whose "startling collision of punk energy, folky melodicism, and Kristin Hersh's mercurial voice and lyrics...puts the work of most self-consciously 'tortured' artists to shame." The review praises the record's "fluid, effortless emotional shifts"—also described as "violent, vibrant mood swings". The album was also included in the book 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die. The album was originally released in the UK by 4AD in August 1986 (CAD607) on LP, CD and cassette. Sometime around the early 1990s, the album went out of print, as plans were made by the band's American label, Sire Records to issue the album for the first time in the US, along with 1987's Chains Changed EP, which had also never seen American release. After Throwing Muses were dropped by Sire following the disappointing sales for 1995's critical favorite University, plans for the re-issue were dropped. The band later resurrected the re-issue project, issuing the 2-CD compilation In a Doghouse in 1998 on 4AD (DAD607CD) in the UK, and on Rykodisc in the USA. This compilation not only contained the debut LP and EP as originally planned, but also (on the second CD) the demo tape that convinced 4AD president Ivo Watts-Russell to sign the band; newly recorded versions of songs originally written in the band's early years; and the band's award-winning 1987 video for the song "Fish".

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2.95

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8877
Genres
Rock
Indie
Post Punk

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Fri Dec 16 2022
4

https://open.spotify.com/album/3rIziXSp46zL1jmweXITHy?si=_nFXDUBFSnaG0WFcAaQbrQ Listened to this link for Throwing Muses Album

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Sun Sep 25 2022
5

One of the many things I discovered in this journey is how much I actually love female driven punk. I mean, as a former enjoyer of Avril Lavigne's emo pop-punk, I should've seen that coming. This album carries the female punk energy that I love. But it's sound is quite sonic and atmospheric despite the chaos. It's more post-punk than punk. Still, it has just the right level of grittiness and filthiness from punk. It hit all the right spots in me.

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Thu Feb 02 2023
5

Crazed blissful caterwauling. I have been a fan of the Throwing Muses for decades but was admittedly unfamiliar with this album. To be honest, I didn't like it at first but decided to push through. I gave it a second listen, then a third, then a forth. It had grabbed me. It is like a dream or a lucid waking nightmare. It also paved the way for a lot of American indie/underground music that follow Pixies being a prime example

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Wed May 03 2023
5

The Spotify link is correct here, even if it seems wrong! "In A Doghouse" is a compilation of early Throwing Muses work, and the first 10 tracks are actually "Throwing Muses" (the album). And it's great!

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Thu Sep 01 2022
4

Isn't this new? Not on Spotify, Amazon Music, nor is there a Youtube playlist for them, so I had to create my own, which will probably be broken in a week due to potential copyright strikes. This was hard to find, but damn it was it worth it. It's my kind of music! For some reason, I especially love post-punk music with female vocals, from the B-52s to Siouxsie to the riot grrrl movement. The instrumental is cool, dark, and melodic, and the vocals swap across registers to show both eery and beautiful emotions she's able to portray. Gets a bit psychedelic in some parts, like the dreamy segments of "Rabbits Dying" that transition to an off country hoedown. Also gets really fun and energetic to dance to but simple and straightforward (like New Wave without the excessive instrumentation). No weak songs, I enjoyed them all, but possibly for the same reasons. The production can be a bit hollow in some places, but the lofi sound adds to its aesthetic. I can't wait to explore the rest of their discography. Favorites: Call Me, Green, Hate My Way, Stand Up, Soul Soldier

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Thu Sep 08 2022
4

Absolutely worth the effort to piece this one together. Underneath the surprisingly effective combination of grungy guitar and near honky-tonk rhythms is a frenetic energy that keeps one on their toes, not knowing which way the track will dodge next but fully understanding the new direction when it does. For being released pre-90s, the LP also shows a prescient vision of where guitar-led music was headed with early dips into grungier tones and abrasive vocals. Overall, this LP is an exemplar of why I put up with some of the more questionable albums on this list, as its hidden gems like this which make the experience worth it.

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Wed Sep 07 2022
2

bleat [bleet] noun 1. the cry of a sheep, goat, or calf. 2. any similar sound (the bleat of distant horns). 3. foolish, complaining talk; babble (I listened to their inane bleat all evening).

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Tue Aug 09 2022
5

This album is why I do this project! What a find! Super solid early post-punk with strong vocals and killer riffs. I'm all about it.

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Sun Oct 16 2022
4

This was cool. Bit goaty, but I like goats. Never heard of them, will hear them again.

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Thu Jan 26 2023
4

It's a cranky and hard album, but after the stodgy traditional borefests of Dwight Yoakim and Rod Stewart it feels exciting and refreshing. It's not a sane album, and I don't know if I want to listen again. But I'm very glad I did listen to it.

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Tue Aug 09 2022
4

This album was not present in its entirety on Spotify so I had to go through Youtube. Anyway, this is very refreshing punk/alternative rock. I love the signer voice and the producing of the songs. It seems there is some pixies influence on thise album. I was surprise because I did not know about this band at all. I liked it 4.

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Fri Sep 09 2022
4

I remember the band's name from when they were popular but I don't know if I listened to them. Glad I have now. This is a solid album. I like the edge to their music but I also hear precision and style. Great balance and not easy to do as I can imagine a less skilled band going too far in one direction instead of showing the intelligent restraint this band shows. I love they way they play with tempo and song structure. Some really cool ideas in here. I'm relistening right now to "Green" because I love the sound of that arpeggio the guitars play.

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Wed Dec 14 2022
4

Weird in all the right ways. Best track: Hate My Way

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Wed Jan 11 2023
4

Nice to see some post punk/alt on here. It's a genre that deserves more attention. I hope we see more albums from the 80s. 3.5 stars.

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Wed Apr 05 2023
4

I think this is a remarkable album. I’m sure I’ve heard of this band before but can’t remember the context. This predates Pixies and is as early a “90s indie” album as I can think of. I listened to their 1991 album The Real Ramona and thought that was spectacular as well. The fact this is from 1986, was released by a British label, is by a band fronted by two women, and is so tight, unique, and confident a debut all at once congeals it into something special. It’s sent me down a long forgotten rabbit hole today listening to bands that Throwing Muses undeniably had a huge impact on with this debut: Autoclave, Rainer Maria, Liz Phair, Pixies, Modest Mouse, Bikini Kill, Nirvana, Breeders, That Dog, and so many others. Hell, it paved the way for the entire 4AD label, now home to indebted powerhouse indie acts like Adrianne Lenker/Big Thief, Deerhunter, Tune-Yards, US Girls, The National…. A great, great, important album and honestly one of my favorites discovered via this group! Thanks 1001 Albums Generator! You da best! 4/5.

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Wed Apr 05 2023
4

This album feels like a total prelude to what would be 90s indie and alternative music. There's this grungey aspect to it but then there's still that reverb-y fingerprint of the 80s in there. I read somewhere that the Pixies opened for Throwing Muses. This album has a lot for me to unpack. Lyrically, I'm trying to follow what's going on but I feel like it's relatively cryptic stuff. Or maybe my brain is too small. Instrumentally is where I'm sold on my first listen. Basslines that bounce, basslines that feel dark and broody, Hersh's voice that switches from smooth to shriek to calm, the random percussive elements ("Rabbits Dying"), some VERY sick riffs ("Call Me", "Hate My Way" "Stand Up"), the (dare I say) beat switches ("Soul Soldier"). I get this B-52s silliness from a lot of the more upbeat tracks and a Toadies type of 90s from the slower ones. This is another album that really feels like it's in between the gradient of 80s and 90s, a connective tissue between two decades in music with very distinctive styles. I'm kind of just rambling here writing notes as I wait on my flight to board but, in essence, I feel like this is one of those times where I "get" this album and I "get" why it's on this list. For music lovers, especially those who have an interest in the intersection between post-punk and indie rock, this album feels like it has to have been an inspiration to many and the fact that this band went relatively unnoticed makes me think they deserve to be heard.

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Thu Jun 22 2023
3

1986 seems a little early for something this grungy and alternative to have been released. But here we are. I was all prepared to review this as another UK disc forced onto the list, but this sound is easily five years ahead of its time. 3/5.

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Fri Nov 10 2023
3

Not my type of style, but decent album. Some of the sounds were cool, some of the sounds seemed like some already used grunge ideas. Personal Favorites: Status Quo

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Sun Aug 13 2023
1

Album not available on spotify

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Thu Oct 27 2022
5

this wasn't available on spotify, so I listened to their next album, "The Real Ramona" instead - and it was great! Poppy, angsty, varied, a bit tortured and discordant

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Thu Dec 29 2022
5

Não conhecia a banda... uma excelente surpresa! Gostei muito do album!

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Wed Jan 18 2023
5

Enjoyed this double album twice. Great work 👏 5

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Fri Mar 10 2023
5

makes me wanna learn the guitar again

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Fri Apr 14 2023
5

I really liked this album. Her voice is fantastic.

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Sun Apr 23 2023
5

Logistically, this is not an easy album to listen to. Nothing about it on Apple Music. I found a copy of this on YouTube. To keep track I had to listen closely and follow along to the lyrics on the web so I could know what song I was listening to. It was worth the effort! Call Me immediately had me paying attention - what a great song! I liked Green, but it was Hate My Way that gave me chills! That lead singer is INTENSE! Vicky’s Box left me a bit stunned. What a song! Rabbit’s Dying - holy shit who are these people? This is an incredible song. I feel like this band is from some higher dimension… they break a lot of songcrafting rules and their songs hold up. Clip clops throughout America (She Can’t Say No) and really incredible performances grabbed me - that lead singer again! WOW! WTF? Soul Soldier just about knocked me out… like two songs in one - very different in tone and composition but somehow melded together. This from teenagers? Wow! This is a spellbinding album filled with incredible songs in the hands of a great band wielding a singer who seems to have come from some other world. The music is so sophisticated, breaking all kinds of rules about what makes a great song and in the process creating some really amazing songs! Why this was so difficult to find and listen to? This is one of the best things I’ve heard on this project… I cannot stop thinking about how impressive these unorthodox songs are. It borders on a crime that it took nearly 40 years to come to my attention. But thankfully this speaks to me maybe even more loudly than it would have when I was 18. I am in awe…

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Sun Apr 23 2023
5

Wow oh wow oh wow. This is some very powerful stuff. Why wasn't this band, like, Nirvana big? So good.

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Thu May 18 2023
5

Baller album, this is exactly my shit. Love the harsh vocals and early punk vibe. This is a bear to find, I assume their history with many music labels has made music rights complex, but Youtube had the album in its entirety.

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Thu Oct 05 2023
5

So far, the list generator prescribed quite a few American college rock albums from the 80s (practically all are very obvious 5-star albums), but the Throwing Muses were still missing. Luckily their debut is included in the list. Great album from a great band. It is their most intense album: some combination of punk and jangle pop and all songs are winners.

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Wed Oct 18 2023
5

The music didn't grab me at first but by the end I was bopping my head. It also sent me on a happy rabbit hole of early grunge. The Muses were pioneers!

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Wed Nov 01 2023
5

Grunge, punk, new wave, garagerock? Een beetje verschillende vibes in dit album. Toffe verrassing

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Sun Nov 26 2023
5

Surprised to find an album without Not Too Soon on the list. Turns out they just write cool music. Love the sonic tone, swirling, distorted, slighly muted, great stuff.

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Thu Dec 21 2023
5

Listened to The Real Ramona a lot in high school but liked this album a whole lot more.

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Wed Dec 27 2023
5

My co-judge and I never listened to these guys back in the day and thought they had more of a dark, shoegaze sound. So the first song was a surprise with it's quirky vocals and tempo shifts. They have lots of raw energy, combining arty post-punk with the occasional hint of folk. Kristen Hersch writes eclectic songs and is no doubt an entertaining performer. Her style has been cited as an influence (by ChatGPT anyway) by Alanis Morrissette and PJ Harvey. It's too bad these songs aren't on Spotify and available for future listening.

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Mon Jan 01 2024
5

Due to my age I came to Throwing Muses backwards - (Counting Backwards?) First via Belly and later Kristen Hersh's solo stuff. Another REM link, with Stipe's vocals on Your Ghost. Before finally coming to the Muses themselves. Of course I heard their more 'commercial' stuff first, Not Too Soon is an absolute worldie. To this record though, fully deserved inclusion. Yes, I get the Siouxsie references for sure in the early stuff. All of this is great, so dense but catchy. Standout above all though is Hate My Way - absolutely astonishing piece of music, and quite unlike anything else I've heard. The lyrics also, "I have a gun in my head", what does this mean, something about to go off? Delicate Cutters is also outstanding.

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Tue Feb 13 2024
5

1001 albums for the win! I greatly enjoyed this album by a band I was only peripherally aware of as they related to Belly and Kim Deal/The Breeders/The Pixies. The album is all over the place but in the best way, like one of those brightly colored rubber bouncy balls. Energy that can't be contained. I hear elements of Sleater-Kinney and even Liz Phair (even more apparent on later albums). Great find, I have already listened to two other Throwing Muses albums as a result.

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Mon Aug 08 2022
4

Uma ótima descoberta, o tipo de banda que eu amaria se já conhecesse. Vou ouvir mais com certeza. Melhores músicas: Green e Cry baby cry

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Thu Aug 25 2022
4

Reminds me a bit of the Runaways. Especially Vicky's Box. Very Cherry Bomb-esq. Also a bit of Grace Slick thrown in there. Not quite four stars but I don't think 3 does it justice. Closer to 4 tho.

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Thu Oct 27 2022
4

This is one of those hidden gems that this project is all about. Throwing Muses debut album is clearly one of the first albums to experiment with a post-punk sound. Bands like the Pixies were clearly influenced by this sound. Maybe it's their label's fault, but I'm shocked Throwing Muses are not bigger in popular culture. Best Songs: Call Me, Rabbits Dying, America, Worst Songs: Soul Soldier

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Sat Nov 05 2022
4

This one I like, raw, emotional, artistic.

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Thu Nov 10 2022
4

This was a lush well orchestrated album that reminded me of The Beach Boys with English folk revival and experimental folk like the Kink’s ‘Village Green Preservation Society.’ The biggest issue for me was the length and the fact that the album sounded a bit dated. In its greatest moments, it was absolutely gorgeous.

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Wed Nov 16 2022
4

BUENARDÓPOLIS y mira que entré con una pajaaa pq duraba una banda pero me encantó. 9/10

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Wed Jan 11 2023
4

Always down to listen to Throwing Muses. I've never listened to this particular album before. Definitely will give it some more love down the road.

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Wed Dec 28 2022
4

Ah really liked this, strong (post?)punk album. Glad I discovered it Saved tracks: Green, Vicky’s Box, America (She Can’t Say No), Cry Baby Cry

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Thu Feb 02 2023
4

I like this! Exactly the kind of niche badass alt rock I enjoy. And the band is fronted by a unique and bewitching woman? Amazing! I am loving the vocals, the lyrical content and style, and the production that creates the right mix of raw yet popish musicality. It honestly feels like it paved the way or in some part even inspired Hole's Live Through This. Sucks that I can't listen to it on Spotify, because that's where I do all of my listening, but at least there's a lot more Throwing Muses music there that I can explore. And I will be exploring this band more, no doubt about it. Hidden gem, good find!

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Sun Feb 05 2023
4

I like this a lot. Very original and interesting. 4 stars.

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Tue Feb 21 2023
4

It’s annoying to have to find the songs one by one. I would be willing to buy it while I still have a car that can play CDs, but timing wise that won’t work out for the challenge. Very interesting overall. Nothing about this bores me. I do wonder about whether certain songs in particular relate to being hit by a car while riding her bike. I can’t help but wonder about the role of dissociation on this album in general, since Kristin has since spoken about being dissociated during songwriting prior to EMDR treatment. Lots of the lyrics speak to trauma and various aspects of mental illness. I didn’t expect the country influences that came up in a couple places. It gets a 4 rather than a 5 for because of the annoyance of trying to piece it together myself for this (I could buy directly from Kristin that might shift things) and because it is sort of emotionally intense with few breaks outside of songs that are on other albums anyway. Those albums can be 5s. If you’re new to the band this is certainly a good primer.

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Wed Feb 22 2023
4

Really liked the first 3/4th or so, then it got a little out there

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Wed Feb 22 2023
4

beautiful voice from the female singer, suprisingly energetic algum

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Wed Feb 22 2023
4

I really liked this one. It's always nice to see a female-led band on here. Hersh's voice here is great, and the riffs are pretty creative. Fave track(s): Call Me, Green, Rabbits Dying

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Wed Mar 01 2023
4

very different lyric style than i’m used too but definitely would listen to more stuff by tjem

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Sun Apr 09 2023
4

Throwing Muses prefigures much, but it also occupies a rather unique sonic place I can't quite place yet. The sound sources are clear enough, emotions more so, and the album has an arc. The connection to Pixies is obvious, this debut more fully-realized than the other band's if a touch less distinctive.

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Thu Apr 20 2023
4

Sounded like something I should have already listened to. Quality listen.

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Thu Apr 20 2023
4

In the 90's I liked Tanya Donnelly's band the Belly, found out she was in this band and checked them out. I was blown away but who good how good Kristin Hersh on this album. Great album.

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Mon Apr 24 2023
4

Old school punkyness. Dig the female vocals.

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Thu May 04 2023
4

Started out strong and interesting...was a tired by the end. Overall a pretty cool band I had never had exposure to in the past. 4/5

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Wed May 17 2023
4

Such a cool sound! Definitely more punk-y than what I'm used to, but still slays. Also, love the juxtaposition of a female voice with punk/rock. Her (their? at one point it sounded like multiple women, maybe it was just vocal layering) voice(s) gave me slight Dolores O'Riordan vibes. I definitely need to listen again, it's frustrating that it's not on Spotify though.

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Mon May 22 2023
4

Love female-fronted alt rock with some bite. It's not nearly common enough for my tastes. This is a super solid example of it. She has a great voice.

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Fri Jun 09 2023
4

Great sound, really shaking up the eighties and part of a whole new emerging alt rock sound. No doubt enjoyment will increase with further listens - the sound grabs you first and the production is such that the vocals are one more layer of sound, an instrument - so I have no idea what Hersh is saying and there’s further exploration to come - but I’m willing to find out.

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Wed Jun 14 2023
4

Superchulo. Es de una de Belly y The Breeders

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Mon Jun 19 2023
4

Throwing Muses is always a good time

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Thu Jun 22 2023
4

Always surprised to find music like this from the 80s. Feels ahead of its time.

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Sun Jul 09 2023
4

7/10. I quite liked this, I wish it was on Spotify

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Wed Jul 12 2023
4

Yoko Ono meets the Pixies meets something entirely unique.

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Thu Jul 13 2023
4

Punk and Shoegaze? Hellyeahbrother.

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Thu Jul 13 2023
4

I loved it! How did i not know about them?

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Sun Jul 16 2023
4

4.2 - Dark, angsty. Reminds me of Siouxsie Sioux. Hope this comes to steaming services soon. Standout: “Rabbits Dying”

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Sat Jul 22 2023
4

A very solid punky album, never heard of the artist before. It reminds me of meat puppets a little bit

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Mon Jul 31 2023
4

This was new to me, gave it a couple listens. They have their own unique thing going on, especially in the vocals and lyrics. I like how they stay in high energy serious mode the whole time. I could see myself coming back to this.

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Wed Aug 09 2023
4

Interesting album. Some weird lyrics but I enjoyed it.

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Wed Aug 30 2023
4

I almost passed on this one because I couldn't find it. I did find it here though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1Xd2jY3zWQ. I'm very happy I did finally find it. It is an amazing album. Every part of this album (drums, vocals, lyrics, feel, etc, etc) is amazing. So good!

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Thu Aug 31 2023
4

I loved what I thought was the first Throwing Muses album - I just didn't know about this one at all. I was a big fan of House Tornado/Real Ramona/Hunkpappa and I thought Fat Skier was their first so now I'm totally confused! I saw them live back in 89 and forced my university friends to be fans too. This is great, full of the slightly discordant tempos and melodies over interesting chord structures. I get it won't be to everyone's tastes but it was great to discover this.

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Mon Sep 11 2023
4

Fun, enjoyable. Will revisit.

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Thu Sep 28 2023
4

Very much enjoyed the female vocals and raw music rather than heavily computerized.

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Tue Oct 03 2023
4

This is much closer to the angular British post-punk of circa 1980 than the New England college rock of circa 1990. Surprisingly good.

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Thu Oct 05 2023
4

Melodic and edgy: I like this kind of stuff.

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Fri Oct 06 2023
4

The cool thing about the 80's is that post-punk bands would start to develop a unique sound with more pop-informed songwriting. The result is effectively indie rock where the production was way more captivating than a lot of the more mainstream stuff from the 80's. Throwing Muses, while lesser known, was one of those bands. They would pave the way for the Pixies to be signed by 4AD, as they would share similarities in their sound that proved to be popular with an alternative audience. Throwing Muses is notably raw and restless. There's a lot of well-executed ideas throughout the album that I happen to appreciate more as the runtime goes on. Every song ends and I think "wow, that was great! I wonder what the next one has in store?" and it's just as good or interesting. A true underground underrated gem. Dig this up and give it a listen.

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Wed Oct 25 2023
4

In de eerste oogopslag zag ik 'Muse' staan en ik schrok me dood, denkend dat de dag was gekomen waarop Matt Bellamy m'n batterij volledig zou gaan leegtrekken met z'n bombastische gruwelmuziek. Wat kan die man, naast slopende muziek maken, ook ontzettend goed en hard ademhalen zeg. Maargoed, dat moment blijft voorlopig nog even als een donkere wolk boven me hangen, dit is een andere band. De Spotify link hierbij klopte niet. Het album waar het naar verwees was iets teveel huismerk Blondie. Gelukkig kwam ik er na 3 nummers achter. Wat een reis heb ik achter de rug, nu al. Het album waar het echt om draait is een stuk lekkerder. Doet me qua zowel qua zang als muziek flink denken aan Be Your Own Pet. Lekker rauw gitaargeluid, alsof het in iemands kelder is opgenomen maar dan wel door een professioneel team. Ik kende dit totaal niet maar ik kan er wel van genieten. Niet elk nummer zit in het midden van m'n genotszone maar overall een voor mij prima album.

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Wed Oct 25 2023
4

Surprisingly good. The songs were musically interesting, experimental. Stand-out: Rabbits Dying

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Thu Oct 26 2023
4

Hi octane, edgy indie/rock, featuring some jagged guitar sounds and riffs, a dark foreboding atmosphere plus a decent singer. Nothing really sticks out as a classic song but there's nothing bad on here either. On the whole, very enjoyable.

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Mon Oct 30 2023
4

Oh I really liked this. Feels like a bedfellow to some of REM’s early stuff and the link between punk and indie Terrific energy and some great tunes

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Wed Nov 01 2023
4

Long but enjoyed this album. Not sure if original 86 version.

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Wed Nov 08 2023
4

This was an interesting album to get right after Porcupine by Echo and the Bunnymen. In some ways, more of the same, but also a much different approach to the post-punk genre (not that there is all that much that unites that genre together). Like Porcupine, I would not have pegged this album for being as early as it is. You could tell me that this was mid-90s, and I would have easily believed it. Throwing Muses were well ahead of their times with this album. Like a lot of female-led albums, it didn't get the recognition it deserved in its time (and continues not to). Clearly a very influential album, given how many artists would later incorporate its sound 4/5

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Tue Nov 14 2023
4

Sat in that sweet spot between excellent support band and disappointing headliner.

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Wed Nov 15 2023
4

Really really cool! Reminds me a little bit of Cocteau Twins vocally but that may just be the style of the time. Definitely cool witchy vibes and I kinda wish this album was on Spotify. I'll for sure listen again

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Thu Nov 16 2023
4

1 cup post-punk poetics 1 tb each b52s, au pairs, and gang of four season liberally with arpeggiated major chords and unusual rhythms serve slightly undercooked pairs well with the unmistakable Kristin Hersch/Tanya Donnely harmony {chef's kiss}

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Tue Nov 21 2023
4

Finally tracked this down on YouTube. I’ve enjoyed Throwing Muses since I was in high school but hadn’t heard this. Wow. Such a great record. Possibly their best.

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Fri Nov 24 2023
4

I love how much they sound like punk B-52s!

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Fri Nov 24 2023
4

Love the raw sound and Kirstin Hersch's angry and strained vocals.

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