The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady

Not my taste but it sure is masterful.

Part swagger, part migraine

Best of the jazz albums thus far

I first became interested in Mingus when I heard that Joni Mitchell dedicated an album to him. Coincidentally I've been listening to some of his stuff over the last month, especially the album, Ah Um. I would give most of them high marks, but not this. I'm not a fan of free form jazz, especialy with a larger ensemble.

Not my thing.

Good work focus music

Yesterday I was at a Speakeasy and today I'm in a jazz club. I love it, love these vibes. It's 10am but I guess I need to make a cocktail. I was very overwhelmed by this album. I'm not typically listening to jazz on a day-to-day and there were some parts that struck me like \"the band is warming up\". That was a little off-putting to me as a non-listener.

To anyone that says, "I don't like jazz", I'd say, "You aren't listening to the right jazz for you then." Jazz is like a therapist -very personal and you may have to try a lot of it before you find the right jazz for you :) <> People on tv who liked jazz were portrayed as pretentious and the jazz they played in movies for those people was like listening to "Free Bird"'s guitar solo on repeat a bajillion times aka not for me AND THEN, Rachael played me a song or two on a most unforgettable road trip. It was big band music and it was stuff I had heard without knowing it (Thanks, Tom & Jerry). I immediately bought the Ken Burns Jazz 5-cd set and wore it out. <> Mingus looks like Bunk from The Wire - who wouldn't like that? ;-) <> Listening to this album, the 40 min flew by so I'd say I liked it as I search for Ken Burns collection on spotify...

I like jazz music, but for no good reason, I don't listen to it so frequently. This album is a good remember that I need to listen to it more and more. An excellent album for all days.

Nice vibes!!! I'm not really used to listening to jazz so sometimes was a bit difficult to me to carry on, but had a really nice time. I should listen to it more! It's brilliant!

Too weird

This is a landmark free jazz album, simply brilliant musicianship and improvisation, very different from Ah Um but still very good

Amazing. His 'Blues & Roots' is my favourite jazz record of all time, but this is up there.

Sorry, but no

It’s jazz!

Más jazz interesante. 4 temas, 2 por cada cara del vinilo, y casi 40 minutos de música pensada para la danza como indican los propios nombres de pista.

I've never quite heard anything like this, and I've listened to a lot of Jazz. It's amazing how Jazz can be so varied. This also shouldn't factor into my rating, but the cover photo of Mingus is 100% Grade-A badass.

Not really sure how to rate this tbh. I did genuinely enjoy it, but it’s a long form composition, not an album full of songs, so the re-listen value isn’t very high. I liked and appreciated it, but I can’t rate it too high.

I liked this, I suspect recently watching SOUL may have influenced my decision.

I liked it, but don't think I'm qualified to say any more than that. Seemed like jazz of an experimental nature.

This was a great jazz album, and I'm definitely going to look into more albums by Mingus (note to self: Wikipedia says "Mingus Ah Um" is his other masterpiece).

amazing last name! reminded me of my eye doctors office, but overall wasn't that bad!

Amazing jazz full of energy, just the right length too. I got a little tired of jazz by the very end lol

Enjoyable jazz album.

As far as jazz goes this was more enjoyable. Can't say I particularly loved it though

probably technically brilliant, but just not fun to listen to.

Einer meiner Lieblingssongs ist von Charles Mingus (Moanin'), allerdings hat das hier mit eher wenig zu tun. Ich finds nicht komplett schlecht, aber viel hören will ich sowas auch nicht. Ohne etwas über den Hintergrund zu wissen: Ist das ne experimentelle Geschichte? Free Jazz? Keine Ahnung, ich finds eher anstrengend.

I'm sure its good if you like avant garde jazz

Jazz man. Cool album name. I’m not sure I’ve just sat down and listened to a jazz album front to back, til now. I liked what I heard, but honestly it was bascially background music while I worked. As that it worked fine. Dave Brubek came up after this album was over and it felt much more accessable and re listenable for my tastes.

tbh not the best jazz i've hear lately but good

I appreciate the importance of jazz, especially from older times, but I don’t really love this type of jazz that much. I was quite impressed by the saxophonist, though!

Not my favorite but still good

dirty sexy rollercoaster

okay...it's jazz. Not my cup of tea. I did listen to the entire record and was impressed with the orchestration and quality of the recording for the time period. Great sound on this album. A few interesting portions.

A 5. An unqualified masterpiece. It's just so damn good.

not quite my flavor of jazz but they're obviously talented

I like jazz, and I can dig some pretty avant-gaurde stuff, but this was quite hard to listen to. Very few times could I even understand where the music was going, and sounded like the instruments weren't even playing with each other. Every once in a while there would be a nice groove, but it was just a little jarring.

I am not @ good judge of jazz or a jazz man at all. Not like I hated it, but wouldn't listen again

A great expression of free jazz, the emotion and passion that Mingus gets into his albums is almost unrivaled to me.

Very Jazz. The main riff gets very annoying about half way through the last track.

Great coordination between members, very tight performances. Found the muted horns to be kinda grating by the end. Only slightly related, I have difficulty discerning great jazz from merely good jazz. I know what I like and don't like, and I'd say I only slightly liked this. Fav/least fav is a bit unnecessary for this album.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Saint_and_the_Sinner_Lady -enjoyed the latin guitar on track ‘mode d’

Instrumental Jazz good for what it is

Nice

“Jazz is stupid, I mean just play the right notes” - Angela Martin

The first item in this project not pretty solidly under the pop tent? I liked listening to it.

Jazz in your face. Spontaneous, loud and a bit jarring in great ways.

Jazz is and is not my music. To much improvisation is to much for me. But some part of the Tracks were nice. I like slow and easy listening jazz.

Fantastic jazz album. Varied, virtuosic, easy-listening.

Pretty smooth, favourite track: Medley.

This is like as archetypal as experimental jazz gets. Wildly changing time signatures, multiple keys soloing at the same time, crazy studio editing tricks to make it sound even more cacophonous (that flamenco guitar section though). This is one of those records that sounds like it could soundtrack On The Road or something. One of Mingus’ best. Favorite Track: Track-C Group Dancers “(Soul Fusion) Freewoman and Oh, This Freedom's Slave Cries” Least Favorite Track: Track-A Solo Dancers "Stop! Look! And Listen, Sinner Jim Whitney!" (If I had to pick one)

What about me?

Fantastic album, very fresh

@@@½. First jazz record listened. Some great stuff in there, but there's a lot going on at times.

v nice jazz

Très peu convaincu. Je vois ce que ça peut avoir apporté d'une manière générale, mais pour mon goût personnel ça joue trop sur la dissonance et c'est trop peu structuré, ça me stresse. Dommage !

En osaa, en ymmärrä enkä tajua tällaista musiikkia. Varmaan ihan merkittävä levy ja plaaplaa. Parempi kuin Coltrane.

My only other jazz listening experience is with Monk and I gotta say Mingus feels more fluid and easier to engage with thus far. I still put Monk Live in Tokyo at the top of my list but this album is a banger.

Not my jam

I have already heard this album and it is a very good album indeed

Odlican album, veoma interesantan i osvezavajuci. 9/10

This was more bearable that the other jazz ones we've had but still not that nice.

Nice and jazzy

groovy

Great to have on in the background

I can't. I feel like there's some 'emperor's new clothes' thing going on with jazz like this. Like, don't they see he's wearing nothing?! I keep waiting for that eureka moment when I might understand it a little, but it has yet to come. The noise almost hurts my brain, it's overbearing, dissonant, disturbing. Maybe that's the point. I don't get it.

Frantic. But interesting.

I feel bad giving this a 2 because it’s probably a great jazz album but some of the numbers sounded like 2 different bands playing 2 different songs at the same time.

jazzy

It's jazzy.

This touched my thought while my world's affluence crumbled at his feet.

Killer album. I love the low end, Bass, Tuba, Bari Sax. Just the wide variety of instruments all coming together for such a beautiful piece.

Correct background Jazz

Badass

Pretty cool. Probably wouldn't listen, but definitely appreciate. 2.8

Some ok some songs just noise

Havent heard this mingus release, it was incredible.

Sehr entspannter Jazz! Bis zu den spanischen Gitarren am Ende abwechslungsreich. Eignet sich vielleicht für einen Spieleabend. Nicht richtig mitreißend oder einnehmend genug zum aktiven hören, aber ich merk ihn mir.

A wonderful artistic expression. It takes you away from any thought or emotion and shows you whatever you need to feel within that small musically accompanied moment. It's absolutely incredible

reminds me of whiplash; not terrible, but wouldn't listen to it to often, but i think in the context of james acaster's influence on me i do like it quite a lot

Dynamic in pace and intensity Solo piano at the beginning of track 3 is very nice Inclusion of Spanish guitar also in track 3 is good Typically ‘jazz sounding’ but nothing very memorable

Fantástico

Not really into jazz, and this didn’t do it for me on first listen. Maybe more listens will make it grow on me?

Mingus? More like dingus. 🙃

3 2,5

Really liked this. Some of the only jazz I've ever enjoyed.

Jazz

Great album, just not really my style

I can’t claim to know much about jazz at all. Especially not avant-garde, experimental jazz like this. But I loved this album so much. It’s an album where you just give yourself over to the way the music feels. It teases you with a reprise that you think you’re familiar with, then beats you round the head with a horn section for getting too comfortable. It has moments of delicacy and beauty, and of utter stormy cacophonous noise. Putting aside the stories about Mingus (aggressive, violent bugger, essentially) it feels like these people are all playing for their lives. Quite a thing to behold

Jazz, imponerende, flyvsk og samtidig stringent, vild bas, svingende

First Mingus album i listened to and still really good on the relisten. This shit drips

Big saxophone guy and this album is full of it!

grande charles

Unfortunately did not enjoy this one as much as the previous, but it was still interesting to listen to.

The perfect balance between melody and noise. 7/10 FT: Track C

a nice listen, both too sparse and too busy for me at points, definite talent but not a jam for me

Usually hit Tijuana Moods or Mingus Ah Um, but damn this record rules.

JAZZ!

Absolute nonsense! Every single member of the band is playing a different song. I’m sure they’re all having fun, but unfortunately, I wasn’t!