Figure 8

My favorite Elliott Smith album and one of my favorite albums of all time. Beautiful, heartbreaking, masterpiece of chamber pop.

Second time my review vanished. This guy has talent, a distinct sound and he can write a good tune. I can see that it works.

Like a mash up of many others... not my thing. Lots of words and tuneless

Mellow ok.

Never really listened to Elliott Smith but wow. I missed out. Really great album.

Probably the only Elliott Smith album I hadn’t really listened to, this one sounds very different from his other releases. Much less melancholy, even poppy at times. As his last album, it was a sign of what could have been. L.A. is such a good song. The man could craft a hook and this is definitely his most accessible album. It does feel very long at 16 songs, but there really aren’t many low points. A great album all around.

Very early 2000's. Didn't do anything specific for me.

Realmente não faz meu estilo. Albúm insosso. Nenhuma música/riff/passagem de destaque.

"Figure 8" by Elliott Smith, released in 2000, is a poignant exploration of the artist's innermost struggles and emotions. Smith's delicate yet emotionally charged songwriting shines through in every track, creating an intimate and introspective atmosphere. From the haunting beauty of "Son of Sam" to the bittersweet melodies of "Everything Means Nothing to Me," the album showcases Smith's exceptional ability to blend melancholy with musical intricacy. The production is polished yet retains an organic quality, allowing Smith's vulnerable vocals and intricate guitar work to take center stage. While "Figure 8" may not capture the raw simplicity of some of Smith's earlier work, it stands as a testament to his evolution as an artist. The album earns a heartfelt 4/5 for its emotional resonance, musical craftsmanship, and the enduring impact of Elliott Smith's distinctive voice in the singer-songwriter genre. It improved for me significantly on the 2nd listen

7/10, decent

Not a fan.

Should have paid closer attention to the lyrics, a few bits I liked. You can definitely feel the melancholy, but just never grabbed me in a way that makes it great.

BIG FAN!!! Listened to it twice yesterday and really enjoyed the first half. Not nearly as slow & depressing as I thought he’d be haha. I’ll def be listening to more.

The first few songs are particularly good. Lots of interesting instrumentation and ES sounds great. The album feels a bit long, but otherwise it is perfect sad indie music.

Really didn't care for the music. Not a big fan of the whispery vocal delivery he uses. Felt it buried the lyrics. Junk Bond Trader was the only song that I found interesting--- Maybe Easy Way Out. Otherwise hard pass. Couldn't get through he whole thing.

Harmonic fingerprint, sad painful angry, nothing like it

It was nice enough background music. Very indie rock, and I quite enjoyed this. I would consider listening to other albums by this band. I give this album 3 out of 5 stars.

Didn’t love this one as much as the earlier ES records, but it was still excellent

Too soft and breathy for my taste

Pretty good. I don’t remember buying anything by them way back when, but they’re one of those artists I enjoyed whenever a friend put them on, or I heard while out and about, or on tv or whatnot.

Pretty much the sound of the 2000s, I was honestly surprised Jon Brion wasn’t a producer on this. I feel like poor Elliott Smith is remembered for being a sad singer songwriter, but even though his lyrics could be bummers his hooks were surprisingly sweet and sunny. Top Tier Stuff.

I’ve dug into Elliott Smith’s music every once in awhile throughout the years, but I never latched on to it. I never made it to this album, and I really enjoyed it. I might have to go back through some of his earlier work.

Retro 1960s easy to listen to.

I've been getting banger after banger so far dang!! I'm already an Elliot Smith fan, this was great, thumbs up

I think I would listen to this again, I like their voice and the slight folk twinge.

Wahnsinnig schön, vielseitig, melancholisch

I wish I could say I like this album. The music is nice not great and his voice is extremely average and forgettable. It almost sounds a little bit like a watered down Beatles or Beach boy want to be. Kind of like if you took art Garfunkel solo albums and took the life out of them or vampire weekend and put a pillow over it so you just heard the muffled remains.

Approx 52 mins. Soft, ethereal, layered vocals from 2000's singer/songwriter. Lyrically interesting. (6/10)

I struggle on whether or not to give this a full 4 stars. It’s a good album, a really good album but not as good as most of the four stars I give out. But it’s also much better than a 3 star album. Ultimately I’m going with four stars because of Elliot’s soulful vocals paired with some very good early century Indie rock, way better than what was out there at the time.

I liked this, but it didn’t leave a huge impression on me! Very pleasant and listenable, but not something that stuck with me as Special

I can tell I'll be coming back to this and will probably like it even more on subsequent listens. A great somber album.

Pleasant listen, but not much variety and nothing outstandingly good

Smith is one of those artist that everyone seems to love. Everyone except me that is. I got "Miss Misery", but the rest of his oevre sounded to experimental, mish-mashy and wishy-washy to me. I still wait for my Nick Drake moment where I'll discover him and then love him to death.

Liked it a lot , but there was something slightly lacking didn’t feel like 5 stars

Whatever

Smooth, thoughtful indie rock.

Only listened once, seemed ok without being great.

Pleasant indie rock but it didn’t catch my ear like his other stuff has in the past

Good stuff, nice to listen to

In seemingly direct contrast to Either/Or, Smith decides to go out with a bombastic release, full of sweeping finales and heavy hitting choruses to show his more chamber-y side of his indie pop antics. This leads to a record I find to be more engaging and with higher highs than its more famous sibling, but the longer length and repetition here seemingly brings the album down to a score just as solid, or at the very least, slightly worse. I found myself being sweeped off my feet at moments by the pop brilliance on display, but I did admittedly miss the more personal feeling presented by Either/Or. However, as a final album many artists dream to go out on as great as a record as this one.

He sounds better with plenty of backing. His voice gets very boring really quickly. I was vacillating between 2 and 3 stars because this is all kinds of meh without being offensive. Then Spotify played Nick Drake after this album was finished. It made me realise that I wasted 54 minutes on something that is many magnitudes less than Nick and other good/great songwriters. If my rating saves one person from wasting time on this piece of white bread with no crust then I've served my purpose.

Not sure why this is so important that it needs to be on this list

Elliott Smith has been on my list to check out for a while, but I hadn't gotten around to it yet. I always imagined his music as mellow, "sad boy" music, but the opening track on this album goes much harder than I was expecting. The second track is much closer to the folkier sound I was expecting (in a good way). It has a Beatles feel to it too (e.g., "Blackbird" or "Here Comes the Sun"). It almost feels like an acoustic Cure song too. It's a pretty short song, but has some enjoyable guitar work. The third track "Junk Bond Trader" has a Beatles meets Tori Amos vibe. Again, it's a much fuller, rockier sound than I was expecting (but good). The next two songs (the "Everything" songs) are more piano driven but still have a big sound. The whole album sounds very dynamic and huge, which is a bit surprising since it came out at the height of the loudness wars. "L.A." sounds like a mix of a Beatles tune with some Led Zeppelin and Lenny Kravitz mixed in. The lyric "Last night I was about to throw it all away" is a little eerie considering this was his last album. The lyrical content has darkness to it throughout, but the album doesn't feel or sound bleak. It's a little reminiscent of Nick Drake that way—there's something sort of ominous under the surface (the last track is titled "Bye" and is an instrumental piano dirge) but most of the album sounds beautiful and bright. A lot of this album reminds me of Abbey Road ("Pretty Mary Kay" especially), which makes sense given that it was partially recorded there. The Japanese release of the album includes a cover of "Because." "Wouldn't Mama Be Proud" has a heartland rock vibe with its heavy organ and guitar work and reminds me of The Wallflowers. Very of its time when that sound was popular in the early '00s. I really enjoyed this album. Because it's 16 tracks it does sometimes feel a bit long, especially toward the middle, but several of the songs are sub-3 minutes so it's not egregious. It seems to be a bit of an outlier from the rest of his catalog and, like Bowie's Station to Station, one of his most accessible releases. But it definitely makes me want to check out his other work with more urgency than I had before.

3.2 Just not my thing somehow faves: son of Sam, somebody that I used to know

Has a coffeehouse vibe. Not fond of his nasally voice but it’s a nice album for background music

I liked the vibe. Nice song writer 3

This was pretty good but I don't think it needed 16 tracks to tell me who they were.

Just a bit too whiney for me

some pretty sweet tracks, but overall gets boring while listening the whole album

Indie nonsense

I did not really like the lead singer's voice. 1/5

Not bad at all. Pretty good throughout, a few standouts but it was mostly just a good album. Not too much to say, really. 7/10 Top 5: 1. Son Of Sam 2. Stupidity Tries 3. Everything Means Nothing To Me 4. Can’t Make A Sound 5. Easy Way Out

2.9 pretty good, but not exactly my style. listened 2x

Not his best album. Might be rating it harshly, but loved the acoustic vibes on Either/Or, and this isn't the same. Reminds me of the Beatles at times, which shouldn't be a bad thing, but it's less to my taste. Will listen to his other albums. I'm sure I'll listen to this one again, but will more likely stick to Either/Or.

Not my style of music, but not bad. I wouldn't have listened to it without this project though.

Good opening and continuation. This feels something stuck out of time, like an 00s take on 60s and 90s pop with folk elements. This could be a 5 maybe but right now it's a strong 4 for me. Repeats: somebody that I used to know, stupidity tries, easy way put Skips: colorbars, happiness/gondalaman

Bored

Good, but not something I desire to listen to again

Forgot about Elliott.Smith. Amazing and talented artist gone too soon. Definitely worth your time..

Mellow album that warrants multiple playthroughs from that guy I discovered from the closing track of Good Will Hunting. May he rest in peace.

Uskomattoman tylsä. Ei jaksa kuunnella loppuun asti. En ymmärrä miksi tällaista edes tehdään.

This is a collection of orchestrated, produced pop songs in the tradition of late Beatles songs. It is not surprising that Elliott Smith found some fame covering a Beatles song. This was the final studio album of Smith's brief, tragic life, and part of the album's acclaim may be a recognition of lost potential. Smith seems appropriately grouped with Sufjan Stevens, not only for stylistic similarity, but also for his singular vision and effort. Smith wrote and produced all of the songs, and played the majority of the instruments on the album. There's an odd tension between these songs: some with melancholic, and even dark messages (songs "Son of Sam" and "Everything Means Nothing to Me") and others with an uplifting message ("Happiness" and "Everything Reminds Me of Her").

Didn’t finish album. Found it boring. The vocals were too soft and I wasn’t a fan of the singing

Something about this album was just... right. It's just such a good listen.

Was alright. 5/10

Good

The guy who wrote this book and the algorithm are definitely depressed. idk I'm just not that into this kind of music.

Boring, maybe in a different mindset I would like it

Sounded like a one-man Beatles. The songs I liked I really liked, but a lot sounded repetitive (just the same chords or melodies or verses over and over to the point where I didn't understand why they needed to repeat so much).

The first time I listened to Elliott Smith was on the 1001 list a year ago or so ("Either Or" album). At that time, I enjoyed it, but I was unprepared for how much this was way better than "Either Or." It reaches me this time. I don't think it's a perfect album, but everything from the lyrics to the production is well done and caught my attention and emotions.

It’s ok…

I love Elliott Smith although consider XO and Either/Or his best albums, so thought I'd be giving this 4. Listening with a fresh opinion was a joy though, I always enjoy his vocals and the guy's ear for a melody is just unrivalled. The guitar work is subtle but beautiful and each track I found myself thinking "Oh yeah this one is great too!". Guess I'll have to give those other albums 6 out of 5 when I come to them.

I like Coconut Records which are obvious inspired by Elliott Smith. Smith not too much.

DK // I really really tried to get into this album but I can’t get over how much I dislike his voice and even worse his haircut in that cover photo lol. Favourite track I guess Everything Reminds Me of Her. Rating - 1/5

indy, whiny, doesnt get me going. Can tolerate

Didn’t hate it , it just wasn’t that great

Endlich mal was Moderneres. Gefiel mir bisher mit am besten, allerdings nicht so gut, dass ich das Album genauso gut wie Oracular Spectacular von MGMT bewerteten möchte, dem ich mit vier Sternen meine bisher höchste Bewertung gegeben habe. Figure 8 war dafür für meinen Geschmack ein wenig zu langsam und ich habe die Melodien direkt nach dem Hören auch gleich wieder vergessen. Aber ich erinnere mich immerhin, dass sie ganz nett klangen und nicht genervt haben. Mit Ausnahme von „Everything Means Nothing To Me“. Eben diese Zeile wurde minutenlang monoton wiederholt, wofür ich am liebsten etwas nach dem Sänger geworfen hätte. Zum Glück war der Rest gefälliger, schöner Pop, aber halt für mich nicht herausragend. Wenn ich könnte, würde ich gerne 3,5 Sterne vergeben.

Okay, this is THE Sad Boy. I've never listened to a full Elliott Smith album, but know and like a lot of his songs. (Yes, I've seen a lot of Wes Anderson movies). Listening to this after reviewing Abbey Road and Sgt. Pepper - I can understand the Beatles influence now that I missed when I was a teen. This is my 3rd album from the year 2000. Doves "Lost Souls" and Coldplay's "Parachutes" came out the same year wearing their Radiohead influence on their sleeves - meanwhile Elliott Smith was going full Brian Wilson doing drugs, eating ice cream, and isolating himself to make depression-pop eargasms. A beautiful set of songs, on which he played almost every instrument. What a loss, RIP.

4/5

Great record, great artist.

Shades of radiohead. Really enjoyed this album actually.

12/7/23. With all the indie rock I’ve listened to, this album felt like a template for a lot of bands to draw on. Very solid listen and would recommend.

couldn’t do it. felt very soulless and commercial.

Fart smelly and sad but I thought it was pretty decent. Not sure where the obsessions with him comes from

None

Korektno

Definitely under appreciated as a songwriter and guitarist. This album has some songs of exceptional beauty and his skill as a guitarist is revealed if you try to unpack the songs and play them yourself. I do not like how Elliots voice was smoothed out and lacks any rawness. I think it causes the songs to suffer a bit when trying to convey some of the complex emotions in his lyrics.

Okay.

1. zon of zam - 0 2. zomebody that i uzed to knouu - 1 3. junk bond trader - 0 4. everything remindz me of her - 1.5 5. everything meanz nothing to me - 0 6. l.a. - 1 7. in the lozt and found - 0 8. ztupidity triez - 1 9. eazy uuay out - 1 10. uuouldnt mama be proud - 0 11. colorbarz - 1 12. the gondola man - 1.5 13. pretty mary kay - 1.5 14. better be quiet nouu - 1 15. cant make a zound - 0 16. bye - 1.5

Haven’t heard this one in a while. I hear a lot more Beatles influence on here than I remember. The production on here is great. Great songwriting as well.

Was a big fan of Elliott Smith as a teenager, then the lyrics/whininess started to bother me, and I think it was this album the most for that. Maybe because it's later, or because it's more produced, I had a harder time tuning it out. Now it doesn't bother me as much, but I never put on a full album anymore and this is a nice chance to revisit. I still think it's my least favourite as a whole album, even with a few tracks I love. The rock songs on here are really good. I can't think of any other examples of artists wearing the Beatles influence on the sleeve so much while still sounding contemporary, the other stuff that tried tended to sound like retro schtick. Really dig the drum drop on Everything Means Nothing To Me. I don't like the melody otherwise here but really dig it sped up on that one RJD2 song, go figure. The quieter/folkier songs aren't among the better Elliott Smith songs, except for Happiness which is beautiful. The other records have this cool shuffle thing going on with the acoustic guitar bass note rhythm especially when there's drums, and that's absent on this one. I might only give this a 3 if I expected some of the others to be on here. With 500 Bowie and Bowie-related albums to get through I doubt it, so rounding up to 4.

This is my favourite Elliot Smith. I think he shows off quite a lot in it, but comes off as bashful anyway. Usually haven’t been drawing attention to individual songs while writing these, but Junk Bond Trader must be the softest song to ever rock real hard.

This is actually my favorite album of his! I came to the Elliott Smith game a little late, so the full production and full band sound did not come as a surprise. In fact, I think I prefer it. Either way, he was a great songwriter. This album is full of amazing songs

Catchy and fine. 3.2

Meh, didn't hate it but nothing really jumped out for me. Totally forgettable album

Really like his stuff, it’s sad but beautiful and raw. Everything means nothing to me really resonated and was lovely. Listened back to Either/Or after this and I definitely prefer that one but don’t dislike this album at all

Hoy tocó un artista que directamente no conocía. Muy Beatle (John Lennon vibes), folk, con un dejo melancólico en su forma de cantar. Adelantado hasta a bandas como Tame Impala. Un bonito trabajo de un tipo problemático: las contradicciones que suelen suceder en la vida, básicamente. Lo sumo a mi lista de discos matinales de éste sitio

Wife likes this guy. Elliot Smith obviously can write songs, but he is so maudlin and self-pitying. All of his albums are in the key of woe is me. Not eager for a re-listen.

December 2, 2023 Evergreen

I'd forgotten ust how deeply Elliot was beholding to Big Star era Alex Chilton. That lush, melodic melancholy saturates both their work. Still, Elliot has enough personality to not be overwhelmed by his influences.

Good record. I enjoyed it.

This album sounds timeless to me. There’s influences from different decades, some of it sounds a bit 70s. Elliot Smith is an amazing songwriter who used interesting chords and harmonies. The lyrics are heartbreaking but the production is warm and satisfying. What an amazing underrated album, and reminder of what a huge loss it was to music when he died.

A lot of elements I like; great piano, great guitar and the vocals all mix really well. The softer vocals remind me of Lawrence Arabia (the sparrow).

Too dull for me, lyrics feel lifeless

Don't know how I feel about this one

I really don't get the Elliot Smith hype, sorry! There's nothing much here that sets him aside from every other singer/songwriter I've heard. A couple of interesting songs but mostly fell very flat

Bland and boring, some ok sounds.

Interesting album for sure. I didn't care for it at the present moment but I feel that at a different time I would enjoy it immensely. A chill, really well produced and mixed album. Elliot Smith's vocals really fit the melancholic tone of the album. I really liked the variety of instruments displayed in this record. Favorite Songs: Son of Sam Everything Means Nothing To Me Everything Reminds Me of Her

I'm still finishing up Cosmo's Factory as I write this. I'm about to dive into Figure 8, but I am writing this and giving it 5 stars before I even start. Curious to see how I feel about the rating in the near future.

Nul de fou ! De la folk sans sucre la

Mieriņš. Tāds neitrāls mieriņš.

Nice album. Even tho i don't know who Elliott Smith is, it felt like i know him and his songs. Maybe from movies??? Idk. Good background music.

Happy Elliot smith, still great tho

Nice indie pop for the sadboy hours

It's fine. Few little jams, but not much to get excited about.

Another swing and a miss. Didn’t even finish the album it was so bad.

I totally get why other people would love this album but I just didn’t connect to it. Every song kind of melded into the last and it just felt like one long kinda boring song.

It was ok

Well well well

Sad indie pop, not treading any new ground sonically or lyrically here.

2/5

Favorite Tracks: Son of Sam Somebody That I Used To Know Everything Means Nothing To Me

Incredible

Didn't enjoy this as much as I hoped. It's a nice album but nothing about it really grabbed me. Strong 5 to a light 6/10

Decent

Solid sadboy music. Maybe a 4? I'd have to relisten a few times.

Some of these albums have e left me questioning the nature of this site. Is this a social experiment? Am I being tested or tricked in some fashion? But then I see the listen count on Spotify, and I realize that it might be my taste that is the outlier. Whatever the reason, I seem to be wearing thin on patience while trying to locate the beauty in mediocre music.

its elliott smith ofc its good was literally already listening to this album thats crazy not my fav album from him but still good

Wow. What a great album. This one gives off a similar feel to Five Leaves Left by Nick Drake, another album that I listened to recently for this project. Honestly, I think I like this one a bit more. The sound of the songs themselves is great, with the singing and instruments complimenting each other quite well. The instruments in particular really stuck out to me as giving off the perfect type of sound for an album like this. What really elevates this album is the writing. This whole album is very self-reflective and very personal, which gives the lyrics a whole new level of gravity to what's being sung. This is just another expertly crafted album by another tragic artist that absolutely deserves to be on this list. 5/5.

A bit too emo boy music for me.

I've never gotten into Elliott Smith too much and what I do know is Either/Or. This is a pretty good album and my only complaint would be I prefer Either/Or and I am not sure this is totally different from that album, but Smith is an important artist so it's hard to complain too much.

not his best work

Loved Elliot Smith as a young 20 something, this was an amazing reunion with his music. Not quite enough for a 5, although if you asked me that question in 2003 it would have been a 5!

10/10

It's a dad rock/classic rock turn for Smith on this one (I believe one of his last albums) which works well enough. It's not as good as his self titled, either/or and the like but his songwriting is too good that the songs still shine through the slightly more extravagant instrumentation.

I didn't expect to like this nearly as much as I did. I had heard Elliott was very melancholic, which isn't typically my vibe. He def is, but this isn't just an hour of mournful acoustic ballads. The instrumentation and production is beautiful and vibrant. Elliott's voice is very expressive, and he writes mean hooks. I was honestly blown away by this.

I really wanted to like this, I really did BUT I just couldn’t get into it. His voice was a little too annoying. 3/10

Decent music. A little slow at times but I enjoyed it a bit. 6/10

Depression. I wasn't familiar with Elliott Smith when this album came up but boy was I surprised by it. I listened to this man talk about his life so raw and unfiltered for an hour and without knowing his story you can tell he's in pain. Once you know more and see this was the last album he made before he died it doesn't shock you one bit. During the listen this album made me think about emotional times in my life as well so the lyrics were fine. I think the acoustic guitar throughout the album was great and there are some amazing parts hidden in this album. Plus the track titles goodbye is actually the final track for once. 8/10

Young kid version of myself would call this music ‘gay’. His voice is just kind of annoying. The instrumentals were fine just kind of boring. 16 songs is too many fucking songs for an album. His wiki page is way more interesting than his music. 3/10

Not familiar with this artist. Thoughtful indie rock. Surprisingly good. Too bad he is no longer with us.

loved it, listened to it and the related radio playlist all day

seems way ahead of his/its time.never heard of this guy but this was a pleasant listen.

ESs last album before his early death. Less acoustic but still delicate and gentle.

One of the best...so much real emotion. Rest easy 💔

Considering how acclaimed this artist is its strange that I have never heard of him. Strong late Beatles vibes. Interesting death!!!! Fav track - Son of Sam

This album transports me back to another time! I haven't heard it in years and apart from one Elliott Smith track in my favourites playlist (Waltz #2) I haven't listened to any of his music since I was at university. I love his sound. This album has some great tracks, but I feel a few tracks too long (or maybe I was just in too good a mood on the day I listened! I'll do a relisten on a melancholy day - ha) Fave track: Son of sam

Some songs are gorgeous. Really beautifully atmospheric numbers like Somebody That I Used To Know but the rest comes and goes without me really noticing until Elliot Smith breaks into my thoughts with one of his repetitive refrains that go round and round like a stuck record.

Beautiful. That seemingly small, almost childlike voice breaks through with all of the aching. I have listened to this album many times and it's just grown and grown. Stand out tracks such as 'Everything reminds me of her' and 'Easy way out'. The latter being all too prophetic. It took me a little while to really dig into Elliott's work. The double vocals are prevalent in many songs and this always sounds glorious, adding a layer of extra harmony. If you want to chill and listen to well crafted songs, with great melodies and lyrics, this could well be for you. Exceptionally well recorded album by Tom Rothrock and Rob Schnapf. Top drawer.

I'm sad I didn't know or get into Elliott Smith when these records were coming out. I feel certain I would know these songs back to front. What I've done instead much later is fall heavily in love with Sufjan Stevens. (Everything Means nothing to me is fucking glorious.) I got Either/Or a few months back and enjoyed it a lot in that moment. I haven't thought to go back to it though. I am definitely going to have to, I do wonder if it won't hit as hard ultimately because I've moved beyond those teenage/20s emotions. I hear the Beatles influence much more strongly this time too. Anyway Elliot Smith just invited my daughter to his party at the Crystal Maze Experience so he's alright in my book.

Some very good songs, some other not as upbeat or on the same kind of vibe. Enjoyed half of it.

Really good

Dislike vocals and lover guitar feels in the songs

Somebody That I Used To Know, LA, Better Be Quiet Now

Never heard of this guy before but I love his sound

Boring

Beautiful voice

Don't like all the songs. Some of them are relaxing and nice to listen to, but others are not my kind of music... It's okay to listen once, but I won't relisten.

Interesting juxtaposition of the darker, moodier lyrics with the seemingly pleasant acoustic arrangement. I could see myself giving this a 4 star 20 years ago, but as it sits now, it's a 3. Im not a big fan of his voice and I like the more electric tracks over the acoustic guitar/piano tracks. Best Song(s): Son of Sam, LA, Lost and Found Listen Again: Yes

Depression. None of the songs caught me.

Não gostei AHAHAHA

Not my favourite, and i didn't make it through the whole album. The band seemed to struggle with what genre they wanted to be and, to my mind anyway, just seemed to be a blandish version of each.

Elliot slayed, but unfortunately, some songs sounded like the diary of a wimpy kid sountrack.

This was hard to listen to. It didn't seem to fit into any genre or sub genre that I enjoy.

Pretty good. Like a PTA or Wes Anderson soundtrack vibe. Probably would have really loved it in the day. 3.9

While I recognize the quality and craftsmanship of this album, I did not particularly enjoy it. This is not a vibe I seek out.

Canciones agradables, pero malas. Seguramente lo rescatable son las letras, pero no se le entiende.

GOAT

After only hearing the songs Speed Trials and Between the Bars by Elliott Smith, I expected a peaceful listen. But actually it was very energetic at some points, the sound of this album is very varied, and Elliott expresses himself in a very unique way. Every song is good and worth checking out, so you need to listen to this I guess…

Really liked this. Saddened to find out that he’s dead :( (and he died at the same age I’m now, so…)

Quiet and contemplative, amateurish sound. Pretty, but requires close attention to profound lyrics to truly enjoy. Not my favorite Elliot Smith album. Wish it had a standout track to truly disrupt like Needle in the Hay.

Bit wet

A melancholic indie feel. Seems a bit basic by todays standards but I can see how this was ahead of it's time. Especially reading that Smith came from Portland in the 90s where the grunge scene was happening.

decent

One of my favorites

He is very talented. 3 stars seems like an insult. But is everything that is better than good 4 stars?

I’m not sure how I feel about this one… I don’t hate it? Not sure I like it either. Was listening to this on the bus and I felt next level creeped out and outright scared for some reason

nice album would give it a relisten

Eh not my thing

Fairly enjoyable.

7.5/10 Warm, comforting, melodic Highlights: - Junk Bond Trader - Stupidity Tries - Easy Way Out - Better be Quiet Now - Can't make a sound

Great Album, it is mellow and has lots of acoustic guitar! 4 stars

I was much more familiar with Elliott's earlier albums, and didn't expect something so...composed. His earlier albums are more intimate affairs, little more than guitar and vocals, but this album feels dense and lush, with string arrangements across the album. It feels full in a way I didn't expect from Elliott. It makes you wonder what subsequent albums would have sounded like. Perhaps the expanded soundscape strips a little of his trademark gloominess from the record, but his gift for melody is ever-present. I really like this one.

Son of Sam: Lyrics about the aforementioned serial killer son of sam, jaunty piano for the subject matter. Somebody That I Used to Know: Acoustic guitar track about a breakup??? singer-songwriter vibes haha Junk Bond Trader: I feel like I'm not connecting very much with this music so far - very disillusioned song about commodification. Everything Reminds me of Her: I don't think this music is for me haha Everything Means Nothing to Me: This dude is obviously going through it, damn, I don't mind this one. L.A.: The first song I actually kinda dig, it's more structured so maybe that's why? Almost committing suicide is pretty dark subject matter but this song is pretty groovy. In the Lost and Found (Honky Bach)/The Roost: I think this is about loving someone who is gone or was only there briefly?? So much jaunty piano with sad lyrics and then an instrumental at the end. Stupidity Tries: I dunno, back again to not 'getting it' I think aha the songs aren't bad, they're done quite well in fact - I do think the extended outro is good for this song though. Easy Way Out: This dude was wrecked by love wasn't he? Another fine song. Wouldn't Mama Be Proud: This guy hated corporate bullshit a LOT haha very bitter about it - I mean it is fucking bullshit XD Colorbars: He really didn't wanna be that archetype of a 'rockstar' huh Happiness/The Gondola Man: Lying to yourself and trying to be happy I guess? haha Pretty Mary Kay: Drugs to heal the pain of life then losing them. Better Be Quiet Now: Break-up song of sorts, feeling empty when there used to be something there. Can't Make a Sound: If ever there were a song about struggling to find a way to express yourself outside of your own insular world, this is it. Bye: Instrumental track, piano - weirdly haunting.

Figure 8 is the final record released by Elliott Smith before his untimely death, and it’s clearly the most well produced of his records. All of the tracks are compelling to listen to on a base level because of it, but the songwriting on this record is a bit more inconsistent than on his most essential album, Either/Or. And at 16 tracks, all of which are certainly not essential, it’s a bit of a bloated record too. Despite the poppier songwriting and professional band sound, what does remain is his devastating lyricism. They hit particularly hard considering his tragic fate just a few years later. And when Figure 8 hits, it really can hit. Songs like “LA,” “Stupidity Tries” and “Better Be Quiet Now” are particular highlights here.

Can't believe how much Elliott Smith is on this list.

Yeah, this is right up my alley. It's a near perfect album.

I enjoyed this one a lot! Very vibey and musical. The key changes and tempo changes are really cool. A little melancholy and moody at times, but I mean that's sort of the whole thing. All in all, quite enjoyable.

4.5

‘Figure 8’ is a perfectly fine album by Elliot Smith: he’s technically proficient, writes decent songs and melodies and yet…I can’t quite place my finger on why, but I was bored to tears by this.

It’s not as good as Smith’s previous work, and to be honest I’m not sure why this album is here at all. But I’ll take it. The songwriting is still some of the best to get sad with. I also like the work the instrumentation does on this record compared to some of Smith’s other material. You can hear the influence in later bands with the diy, “indie” sound on display here.

With all due respect, I’ll never be in the mood to fire this up, even when I’m feeling blue.

Very coffee shop indie music. Not super interesting, but nothing that is grating to the ear either.

Nice instrumentals for sure but otherwise boring af. Skipped through most songs. Reminds me of Beatles. Doesn’t compare well. Vocals uninspiring Can’t Make a Sound is okay as is Bye so i rate it two stars.

Not my favorite Elliot smith. Average

musical excellence

Junk Bond Trader

sad man :/

I feel bad giving what is I think the only Elliot Smith record on this list a 3 because I love his other records so much. But TBH I found this one kind of boring. It does sound like Elliot Smith but just little in the way of anything fun/singalong-able. This record seems like it was chosen because it was the last thing he fully produced himself...?

Again it's really nice songwriting and an enjoyable listen, but nothing that elavates it for me. Fav track: Better be quiet now Light 3.5/5

Elliott's big play at a more commercial pop record. This has always been a tough one for me, as I greatly appreciate the expansion in of his sound and how he adapted his signature fragility into a full band feel, but I do feel that some of these arrangements begin to lose some of what makes him special. That said, on this listen I was very struck by just how catchy some of these hooks are, and how he plays off some of his most devastating lyrics against these upbeat instrumentals. The production detracts from his vocal style somewhat so it's not top tier for me, but it's still a big winner and only grows in favour the more I listen. Fave track: Everything Means Nothing To Me

First listen of this I really got into, and the second listen found myself wishing there was more of what we heard on the previous album. The poppier stylings began to grow tired on me ever so slightly. Still enjoyed this album, and may potentially get some future spins, but didn’t quite cut the mustard as much for me this time. Three and a half. Fave track: Colorbars

Hadn't listened to this band before, but actually kinda enjoyed it. Felt some Gene Ween vibes on several songs.

The worst

Chill

Huudan enkä pysty hallitsemaan itseäni, ja joudun hysteeriseen itkuun ja voihkimiseen. Alan kouristella ja vääntelemään maassa, vaahtoaen suussani, kun elliotiinin itkujen tuska täyttää sieluni. Vapautan kulhoni, kun alan menettää kehon toimintojeni hallinnan, ja kehoni sulkijalihakset supistuvat ja tärisevät. Huone täyttyy nopeasti paskan hajulla, kun vääntelen ja väänryn tuskissani, ja kuulen vain kivuliasta kivunhuutoa, joka pian muuttuu gurisevaksi jännitykseksi, kun kurkkuni täyttyy paskasta ja kyynelistä, kun jään autiouden valtamereen ja tyhjyys. Muuten aika hauska albumi, hurraa. gondola man

The songs were good but his voice did grate on me a little. I don't mind indie music but sometimes it just feels single layered and this album felt that way too. It's very much a backgroun noise album. There's not much else to say about this album which isn't ever a good sign of a good album. Stand out tracks: Junk Bond Trader

It feels a bit like cheating when you get an album that you already know well, but don't mind this one bit. I can see it might not be everybody's taste though, and perhaps it needed a couple more upbeat tracks to round it off.

4.2

Would probably need more than one listening to understand this album

Not really my thing but one of the better things that isn't really my thing.

Indie lento. Se me ha hecho bola. Un 2.

I have this album several tries. I wasn't connecting to it and kept feeling I wasn't in the right mood or I was missing something. After 3 tries I'm done. I don't want to hear this again.

Fantastic album. It does feel oddly polished for Elliott Smith, which takes away some of his appeal for me. Songs are fantastic, but not his best album. Somehow the lyrics are some of the most depressing, as he discusses suicide, but it feels like polished pop? Hmm,...

Some okay songs. Can't stand his voice though. Too weak and whimpery. Sounds like he's about to cry. Like, can we get one song where he actually sings from his chest?

Better than I expected, some nice catchy bits, found myself listening to it again

I’m gonna be so for real, was not a huge fan of this guy. His voice was nice, some of the songs were okay, but there was nothing memorable besides the fact that he died. Sorry man…

Elliot Smith has an amazingly haunting voice, he has a sense of melodrama about him that makes me feel uneasy. This sense of uneasiness is fueled even more knowing that this was his last album before his death, and the details of his death make this album even sadder. That being said, I really enjoyed some of the songs on the album, mainly "Wouldn't Mama Be Proud", "Better Be Quiet Now", and most of all "Can't Make a Sound". I honestly didn't enjoy a lot of the songs on this album, but can't make a sound is completely different, I feel that smith's voice and the background track create a perfect melody with this song. However, these few songs don't bring the whole albums up for me, I would rate this album a decent 2.5.

First, rock is one of the listed genres. Yea....no, not rock at all. Never heard of this guy and after listening to this a couple times, pretty happy about it. Found everything to be slow moving and generally listless and dull. Wasn't outright terrible, but happy to be moving on. The most interesting part of this guy is how he died. How the hell can you stab yourself to death? 2 stab wounds and the fingerprints on the knife were his girlfriends? Something doesn't add up here. Bitches be crazy, fellas. Throw up a finger if you feel the same way. Shank puttin down for Californ-I-A! 2 for the music. 5 for getting me interested on how this dudes chick cut him out of her life. I may read up more tonight, but I doubt it. Watch out for the crazy chicks! 2

Elliot Smith to me is like Jeff Buckley. I know one song from something but the way the present themselves - their personas, I suppose - never interested me. I'm not normally into quiet introspective music and that seems to be their whole shtick. I was surprised at how upbeat a lot of this album was. Those were also the songs where he does something interesting, either with his voice or musically. But yeah almost all of the quiet and tender shit was pretty much out for me. Kind of reminded me of even more sad Ben Folds. By the time it was over I was also pretty over it. The back half does have some interesting sounding songs but it all muddles together. There might be a few tracks I listen to again but most of it probably not. 2

4 Oh my God Elliott Smith made the list!! I got into Elliott in college from parallels drawn with Bright Eyes, and man, does his music also do such an effective job of hurting me deeply - his soft, tender voice and personal songwriting rides the line of haunting and soothing so well. While this isn’t his best or probably even second-best release, I’m happy he made it on nonetheless. For those unfamiliar with his work, this is probably the most musically-elaborate of any of his albums, which are usually much more acoustic-based. So in many ways this feels like an evolution of his sound with great alternative rock-inspired tracks like Son of Sam and L.A., though traces of his earlier, acoustic work can still be found here, with Everything Reminds Me of Her probably being the most exemplary. If you haven’t just sat and reminisced about someone in particular while listening to the song at some point in your life, you haven’t lived. He even gets a little experimental on this album as well with the usage of transition tracks or the falsetto and high-note featuring Everything Means Nothing to Me. Even though it’s a bit odd-sounding, I've also always been kind of drawn to the track, especially as it resolves into absolute greatness when the instrumental backing jumps in. While I think you could make the argument the album is a little long or that the back half isn’t as strong as the first, I still think there are some hidden gems buried in there if you give each song a good listen, with the last three in particular being a beautiful stretch of great lyricism and musicianship - though it’s hard not to find them a bit haunting with lyrics like “Wish you gave me your number/Wish I could call you today, just to hear a voice/I got a long way to go/I'm getting further away”. And the final track being an instrumental just called “Bye”? Woof. Great release for what would be the last in his lifetime, bookending a career that I believe cements him as one of the greatest singer/songwriters of his time. For anybody else who enjoyed this (or even those who didn’t), go listen to Either/Or, and if you ever find yourself in LA, you can find the mural he’s standing in front of off of Sunset Blvd, near Los Feliz. I’ve lived here for a few years now and still haven’t made the pilgrimage - maybe that day comes this weekend. Welcome to the list, Ashten and Alex, even though you both rated your first album wrong 🙂

Liked tracks 3 and 5 and the piano on 7. Strong finish with Can't Make a Sound and the great outro. Dreamy stuff.

Album 177 of 1001 Elliott Smith - Figure 8 Rating : 4 / 5 Favorite Track : Somebody That I Used to Know Great listen. One I'll need to give more time to. Enjoyed all tracks.

Deeply moving. I really enjoy the writing.

I didn't mind this. It would make good movie soundtrack music.

Really enjoyed this. It's relatively upbeat for Elliott Smith (though I also like the downbeat stuff), and I liked the arrangements.

3.8/5

Elliott Smith's "Figure 8" is a masterpiece that beautifully encapsulates the enigmatic and deeply introspective nature of his songwriting. Released in 2000, it marked a significant point in Smith's career as it bridged the gap between his lo-fi acoustic beginnings and a more polished, orchestral sound. The album, tragically his last studio release before his untimely death, stands as a testament to his musical genius and lyrical prowess. From the moment you press play, "Figure 8" takes you on an emotional journey. The opening track, "Son of Sam," with its catchy melody and haunting lyrics, immediately draws you into Smith's world. His delicate, hushed vocals create an intimate atmosphere that invites listeners to lean in and listen closely. One of the album's strengths is its ability to blend melancholy and beauty seamlessly. Tracks like "Everything Reminds Me of Her" and "Somebody That I Used to Know" showcase Smith's ability to craft heart-wrenching yet achingly beautiful ballads. His intricate guitar work and layered arrangements add depth to each song, making them feel like musical tapestries. "Figure 8" also experiments with a more expansive sound. Songs like "In the Lost and Found (Honky Bach)" and "Stupidity Tries" incorporate lush instrumentation, including horns and strings, providing a rich contrast to Smith's more stripped-down acoustic tracks. This dynamic range demonstrates his versatility as a musician and arranger. Lyrically, Elliott Smith was a poet of the human condition. His words often explore themes of love, addiction, loneliness, and self-doubt. "Everything Means Nothing to Me" and "Easy Way Out" are prime examples of his ability to convey complex emotions with a simplicity that resonates deeply with the listener. One of the standout tracks on the album is "Happiness." It's a poignant exploration of the elusive nature of happiness, and Smith's haunting delivery makes it a gut-wrenching experience. The chorus, "The more you try to erase me, the more, the more, the more that I appear," is a haunting reminder of his enduring legacy in the world of music. While "Figure 8" is a remarkable album, it's not without its darker moments. The haunting "A Fond Farewell" and "Can't Make a Sound" reveal Smith's inner turmoil and inner battles, making it clear that his personal demons were an inextricable part of his artistry. In retrospect, "Figure 8" stands as a bittersweet masterpiece, an album that showcases Elliott Smith's undeniable talent and poetic brilliance. Its complex mix of emotions, captivating melodies, and thought-provoking lyrics make it an essential addition to any music collection. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to Smith's work, "Figure 8" is an album that continues to resonate and inspire, leaving an indelible mark on the indie folk and alternative rock landscape. It's a timeless gem that serves as a lasting testament to the enduring power of Elliott Smith's music.

Nice album, pleasant to listen to but the only piece that really struck me was "Everything means nothing to me".

Molto piacevole all’ascolto, melodie che rimango e si sente che sono brani profondi.

There is a day and a mood where this album will hit perfectly. Today was not that day for me even after I spun the album twice. I liked the second spin a lot better than the first as the album started to open up and reveal more of itself. Definitely something to go back to, but not in heavy rotation.

new to me and I like it; so sad that he died so young

😭

1. Son of Sam 2. Wouldn't mama be proud 3. In the lost and found

He was sad but, he rocked too.

Another artist I had never heard of and I really enjoyed his sound.

A really solid listen. While nothing extraordinary, it was a good listen throughout for some pretty ahead-of-the-curve indie, for it's time. Will definitely return to some tracks on here

En soi pas désagréable, mais totalement oubliable par ailleurs.

Bof bof, rien de spécial. Au début je m'étais dit pourquoi pas, mais en fait c'est assez long et ça tourne en rond Je souffre un peu de l'effet de répétition, et peut-être que ça explique la note, il paie aussi pour les autres

Interesting chord changes throughout.

Not for me.

lajk, dobar indie find

Heard before. Not bad. Bye hits kinda hard. + Son of Sam + Everything Means Nothing To Me + In The Lost and Found + Bye

Album muiiiito bom, 4.

I have already listened so many times...

zapewne musiałbym więcej razy przesłuchać by docenić

so whiney

5/10 Top 3: Son of Sam Junk Bond Trader In the Lost and Found

Ihan jees singer&songwriter-platta! 3/5

Hyvähän tämäkin on, vaikka Smithin kolme edellistä levyä on imo parempia. Tässä tuo 'major label' -vaikutus tuntuu jotenkin näkyvän ja intiimiys on vähentynyt. Toivottavasti noita vanhempiakin on.

Varsin kaunista ja tunnelmallista musiikkia. 4/5

Meh

Elliott Smith was a very talented songwriter and I liked this indie rock/chamber pop/psychedelic inspired album a lot. In some parts it even felt a bit Beatleseque. The last song, the instrumental 'Bye' was harroving considering it was Smith's final album before he died three years later.

I mean not my vibe but I liked Bye

Mmmh, sorry but not my cup of tea :(

I think he has a song on the Garden State Soundtrack. His voice is familiar. He's a pretty talented musician. I can definitely appreciate the talent here. His voice is so smooth. Reminds me of Simon and Garfunkel. I'll give it 4 stars.

I'd heard of Smith before, but this was my first time actually listening to him. This album feels like something I would have obsessed over had I heard it in my teen years. Real good sound, makes me a little sad, I love it.

Riktigt bra skiva. En modern hiphopklassiker med både hits men som också passar som ett helt koncept.

Meh.

Incredible musicianship and lyrics, however, I have a really hard time with listening to his singing. I tried to move on from it but it just was not my vibe.

Really dig the orchestration in general. Not sure I ever would have sought this out but I'm glad I'm listening! In general I think I'm a bigger fan of the backing tracks than the vocals, this is a little bit whiny (lyrically and aesthetically) for my taste. 3.5/5 stars

This is a really cool album, to me it has a modern shoegazey Beatles kinda vibe. Very psychedelic at times but also some jams. I'm also reading up on Elliot Smith and not saying his girlfriend killed him but I'm not NOT saying that......

This album was fine, but ultimately forgettable. Not really sure why it is on this list.

I like Elliot Smith ok, he makes it seem like he struggles to get the sound out. To me every song is sung the same. This album is no different.

The trouble is, I heard Badly Drawn Boy before I heard Elliott Smith. It's charming and whimsical with a delicate, understated vocal. Indie pop. I feel like if I gave it a few listens, there would be some real tearjerkers on there. The musicality of it is impressive, the guitars are great, the keys, the atmosphere of each song. It's a good album. A bit samey after a while. In fact, his voice is starting to annoy me. Ben Folds is another soundalike. Oh, I don't know. Maybe three stars, maybe four. Three and a half. Won't be life-changing for me!

Did not care for this album. Junk Bond Trader was the only song that caught my attention. The band is talented but the music is not my style.

pretty mid 3/10

Love him

Get's a bit whiny after a while.

“everything reminds me of her” takes me back to after me and girlfriend broke up and i played it on repeat :,) amazing album tho, i fucking love elliott smith

güzel gerçekten

Decent sound. Liked it more than I thought I would. Not sure if I would listen to it again, but it was a good listen nonetheless.

I really enjoyed this.Indie music I actually like.The instrumentation is varied and catchy and his voice is beautiful.Songs are concise with melancholy lyrics and catchy choruses.I’ll try to relisten to this albumReally good.Like a 4.6

I feel like I should like Elliott Smith more than I do. I think if I was 10 years older he’d be super formative for me. However for me, the style reads as a little whiny and derivative. It’s a tough one, but I can’t earnestly rate it highly.

I can’t really connect to this album the way i feel like i should. it’s definitely well done but emotionally i’m just not feeling it. solidly above average but it feels like it should be a 5 for me and just isnt? idk it’s strange

Love

Not my genre

Pretty decent, just didn’t click with me. I liked a lot of the songs, but nothing blew me away.

With this album Elliot Smith makes a sweet, gentle, bittersweet point which he goes on to reiterate with monotonous abandon. It resembles the thrill of a needle prick which subsequently drains you of all your blood.

i don’t know, i just couldn’t get into this album. i don’t know why.

I had never heard of this guy before. It was nice soft background music, overall well put together a good production. I liked it.

I really dug the first 3 or 4 songs but after awhile, it got kind of repetitive and boring.

I am thoroughly impressed. This is a very diverse and fun album, what the white album should have been. The Beatles influence is felt there. Some gorgeous piano pieces like Everything Means Nothing to Me, or unconventional melodies for pop-ish music like Color Bars, my fav track. Will definitely listen to again! 5/5

Some stunning songs but a lot of unnecessary fat. It could have used with some editing out of songs that water down the power of Elliott at his best.

Good songwriting

C'est toujours sympathique mais il n'y a vraiment pas de quoi écouter ça à l'avant d'un bus.

Eliott Smith va bien te faire voir

This had some really nice guitar in it, especially near the beginning. Very passionate and emotional and overall a good album.

First listen Saved 5/16 Top track: Son of Sam

This was better than I thought it would be.

Just a bit dull. Clearly there's emotion and intent to it, but the music just happens, and that's it.

This was very hard to listen to.

Ik hoor de invloed op andere artiesten, maar als geheel misschien wat veel van hetzelfde. Best goed.

Very Beatles-esque and I don't like the Beatles so I didn't really enjoy this much either. The quieter and more reflective songs were boring, while some of the more energetic songs were sort of okay I guess. As the album progressed my interest waned and around the halfway mark I was just looking forward to this ending. Whiny and dull. Not bad enough for 1 star, but not deserving of more than 2 for me.

Plinkety plonkety nice background

Good sad album

Det tar definitivt inte ifrån denna recension att jag befunnit mig i en Elliott-period under en tid nu. Där jag även tagit mig an hans två första skivor ('Roman Candle' och 'Elliott Smith' ) lite mer på riktigt. Men till saken, 'Figure 8' länge albumet som inte riktigt kunde mäta sig med 'XO' och 'Either/Or' för mig. Vilket är ett faktum som än idag förblir. Men varför jämför jag egentligen? Det känns som den enkla utvägen när det kommer till att bedöma musik. Frågor som: "Är det här bättre än det där?" kan leda till tankar i stil med: "Om jag nu gillar det där bättre, varför ska jag då lyssna på det här?". Men i själva verket försvinner då poängen med den här tjänsten, eller i alla fall en stor poäng. Istället för frågorna ovan så det ju mer värt att besvara frågorna: "Varför gillar jag det här?" eller "Varför jag gillar jag inte där?". Men det är mycket svårare än att bara lägga ett album på vardera sida av vågen och se vilken som sjunker. Okej, nu har jag skrivit alltför mycket utan att prata om något som berör just 'Figure 8' så nu försöker jag igen. Till saken... Det är fan ett kanonalbum. Det bockar av nästan alla bockar i mig när det kommer till vad jag vill ha av musik. Känslosamma texter (med mörker) som blandas med intressanta ackordföljder och riff som ger liv åt låtarna. En låt som jag reagerade lite extra på den här genomlyssningen var "In The Lost And Found" som i sin ton känns gladare än mycket annan Elliott. Men även där är han ensam. En kärlek som inte längre som inte finns i hans liv, men som ändå påverkar honom dagligen. Jag avslutar med att kort nämna några favoriter från albumet: "Son Of Sam", "Somebody That I Used To Know", "Junk Bond Trader", "Everything Means Nothing To Me", "Stupidity Tries" och "Easy Way Out". De flesta låtarna skulle kunna kvala in egentligen. Bäst: Hmm, vet inte. Någon av dom nämnda!

good instruments and vibe but voice a bit annoying

Another album from the most overrated genre in all of music. Critics love singer/songwriters because they feel it captures a glimpse of vulnerability from the courageous and brave musician that is inspired by the Beatles which apparently you have to be in order to be relevant and worthwhile. Nah. This is bland and repetitive material that is way over represented in this book. It's not terrible but it's not that exciting either. Yawn.

Album was ok, kind of vanilla. Would not listen to it again.