O.G. Original Gangster

90s rap just doesn't do it for me.

1991. O.G. Original Gangster

Samma känsla som för mycket av den här oldschoolhiphopen, bra beats men inte övertygad av rapen. Ice T är bättre i Body Count

Detta var... inte så bra som jag ville.

The real OG was Schoolly D. His 1985 single PSK What Does It Mean? is widely credited as the first gangsta rap song, including by Ice-T, who said it inspired him to write 6 'n the Mornin'. I don't know if Schoolly was still living at home or didn't have a phone in those days but Ice called him at his mum's, asking him to listen to his new track before he put it out. He wanted Schoolly to know he was a fan, not a biter. Ice had already used crime, and specifically murder, as a theme on 1984's Killers, but the murderers were abusive husbands and spineless young cops, and he was warning against getting caught up in it. Schoolly D never gives the Park Side Killas their full name in PSK, but he spells out that they're the in-crowd and if you don't already know what it means, you're not. When he hears another MC trying to copy his style, he pulls a gun on him. I prefer his earlier single Gangster Boogie, which has a fluid vocal cadence and groove that anticipates Paid In Full. PSK is closer to the cutting edge of 1984: the hard, sparse beat of Run DMC's Sucker MCs. However, its icy, cavernous sound is like nothing else I've heard in rap. The beat was made by Schoolly on a 909, while DJ Code Money dropped in vocals from The Official Adventures of Flash Gordon and Beside's Change The Beat. It's absolutely drenched in reverb, but steely. Around the same time, The Jesus and Mary Chain were making a similar sound on In A Hole. They would later explore their love of rap on Automatic, but at this point it was almost certainly a coincidence. As Schoolly put it, "It was anti-radio! It was anti-establishment. It was anti-everything. That’s the fucking difference." His "art first, money second" ethos may have been left behind a long time ago, but if there's any doubt that PSK's influence is still being felt today, the friend who phones Schoolly D in the second verse is called Chief Keith. 6 'n the Mornin' is superior storytelling though, and Wreckin' Cru member The Unknown DJ eases off on the reverb to let Ice-T's narrative take the starring role. Like Killers two years earlier, it depicts a South Central where violence is constant and seemingly at random. His delivery is laid back; there's no cause for excitement, this is everyday. This time it's a first person tale, but aside from a reference to "hos catchin' whiplash tryna glimpse the T," the narrator could be anyone. When he and Sean get pulled over by the LAPD they were probably driving safely. The cops find concealed weapons and Ice spends 7 years in jail. When he comes out, crack has taken over the streets. By 1991, a lot had changed in rap. Musically, it's a period with fewer drum machines and more sampled breaks. 5 years on from the genre's first platinum album, Raising Hell, it was a big business. You can bet Schoolly D's mum didn't answer his phone any more. The PMRC had made artists put advisory stickers on their records, which must have felt like a dare to take things further, but also contributed to a growing defensiveness, with lyricists constantly calling out their critics like Axl Rose and reminding listeners of their past glories. It's depressing, but understandable for artists who have worked their way up from nothing and are surrounded by people who either want to take their place, ban their music or otherwise hurt them. We're also in the CD era, where every album has to be padded out to over an hour with skits and interludes. You have to wait until track 3 for an actual song. As a result, I haven't got through the whole thing in one sitting yet and my thoughts are very much first impressions. It's lean, fast and toppy, with few hooks. So far, my favourite songs are the James Brown sampling title track and Bitches 2, where the bass and trumpet give more dynamic and melodic variation. I prefer the slower, smokier records of the period: double bass, horns and piano, the smoothness and melodicism of A Tribe Called Quest, or Cypress Hill. However, the furious intensity does reflect the way things had ramped up in the previous few years, with the crack epidemic and the rate of homicides of black males aged 14-24 roughly doubling between 1984-89. Midnight is presented as a prequel to 6 'n the Mornin', but it feels more like a sequel, with the chaos of gun battles, police chases and explosions playing out over the vast cacophony of Iommi guitars, Bonham drums and a woman's screams. To be honest, I found the whole thing exhausting. If I tried to explain how it makes me feel, I'd get into the same "old man yells at cloud" territory as Hans Keller, when he interviewed Pink Floyd on The Look of the Week in 1967, so I'll give him the last word: "Why has it all got to be so terribly loud? For me, frankly, it's too loud, I just can't bear it."

Carino, ma non mi rimane molto. Bella 'M.V.P.s' Boh, gli altri album RAP mi parevano meglio.

Straight Up!

2.5/5. Has some decent songs here and there but jesus are there way too many songs.

oof, this was a tough listen. I like ICE-T. He is smart and charismatic, and I saw him live at the Enmore Theatre in 1989, and he was terrific live. I liked the Power album, and some of the Iceberg. But this is not good. It sounds like an early blueprint for gangsta-rap, even though it comes well after Straight Outta Compton and some of the other ur-texts of the genre. It should sound a lot better than this. He mentions Six in the Morning 3 or 4 times, which sounds like trying too hard to establish his cred. The misogyny is appalling. And there is so much flab on this album. MVP and Ya Should Killed Me Last year (and most of the skits) are just Ice rambling off the top of his head (not even free styling). And so long! At 72 minutes, this could have been significantly edited down, and made a much stronger album. I really wanted to like this, but it's flabby and lazy and irrelevant and unpleasant. And Ice-T can be so much more than that. Not his best.

A look into the lives of the LA rappers moving into the 90s. This lengthy album has many interludes and asides where it felt a little drawn out. Definitely some tracks could've been cut, or edited a little better. Best: O.G. Original Gangster Worst: Fly By

2.5 just because it's Ice T.

its not for me. I confused ice T and ice cube, I preferred the ice cube one..

Too long, nothing stood out. Shite lyrics and all I could hear was Dan Harmon.

Proprio non il mio genere (ascolto poco però e in modo poco attento)

2/5 meh, nigga nigga niggani gga, tylsät biitit ja riimit

Too long and repetitive

Not a big rap fan.

not heard it before, OK for the first 10 mins then lost interest.

Too many tracks. Album lasts over an hour, which is way too long. Also, too much foul language. Ice-T is a good rapper though.

Ice T is a budget Ice Cube, but this isn't as shite as i expected. suffered from the disease that all rap albums have of the stupid skit things where they always talk about how big their dig is and how much poontang they get but i'll let that slide as even they weren't as bad as ones i've previously suffered.

A little long, understand the impact but not hooked, might need another listen, do like the rock elements, however, esp. in Body Count No Saved Songs

Inte så bra 2/5

Some solid grooves.

Pimpin' ain't easy indeed.

Its not my Genre. Lyrically its enjoyable enough but there isn't much to make this stand out from the crowd and I am immensely bored by half way through 2/5

Hip-hop del de qué grande la tengo...

Rap isn't really my favorite thing to listen to, but its 90s rap so it isn't as bad

not a good rapper

Edelleenkään ei yhtään mun genre. NWA toimi vähän paremmin kuin tämä. Saman biisin looppausta alusta loppuun biisin teemojen muuttuessa marginaalisesti. Body Count oli mukavaa vaihtelua muuten niin harmaassa massassa.

2.5

Not a huge fan of this album.

appreciate it

Oli jäänyt mielikuva, että Ice T olis ollut kovakin pläjäys. Turhan gangstaa ja keskinkertaisilla biiteillä joten vaisu kokonaisuus.

Skip to the next song every time you hear a profanity or the word "ni**er" and you'll cruise through this album in no time.

D.O.G.

This album wasn’t made for me. It was meant for some other motherflipper.

Que horrible que es el hip-hop gánster y este no es la excepción

I love Law & Order SVU, but this was too much.

Want to know what dogshit sounds like? This record is for you.

1 - TERRIBLE

Nope nope

1/5 primeiro que não consegui terminar.

Pretty much what I expected,could have been anyone of a hundred different gangster rap performers. Except that there were fewer swear words and fewer 'niggers' mentioned. Not my thing, and un noteworthy. 1

Thank you Mr T for explaining the over use of the N-bomb by you and your genre more broadly. Very eloquently put. And you are right, you do have freedom of speech. And yes, I will stay off your dick. But, I will never enjoy your music, your aggression, misogyny, ego or glorification of gang culture. So kindly stay off my dick too. Thank you.

Not another rap album with some more 'With a niggga nigga here, a nigga nigga there, and a bitches, bitches here and a bitches bitches there, old Ice T had a rant, eeyi eeyi oh!' What a load of old farm fertiliser.

No.

Toch liever Fuze Tea

Guns, violence, misogyny, ‘Look at me, I’m amazing’… This record seems to capture everything I hate about this genre’s leanings, which is its only achievement as far as I’m concerned. But then I can’t help thinking I’m probably not really Ice T’s key demographic. Tedious, egotistical, rubbish, but each to their own, eh?

Tiresome. How can it be good when the topic of your art is so blatantly you. A self-aggrandising load of old bollocks. I daresay you could beat me in a knife fight, gun fight, dick measuring or whatever but not very bothered thanks Ice-T

Dislike this music so much. Tough man bragging does nothing for me.

This album gets what it gets because though seminal in the history of rap, especially “gangster rap”, it has only the barest most incipient touches of the creativity that hip hop would grow into. Everything, the lyrics, the nursery rhyme schemes, the delivery, the production, and the ideas, everything sounds dated. I mean can today’s Ice T even support the albums violent, anti police themes after having made millions of dollars playing a police officer on tv for over a decade? Does the justification of the use of the word “bitches”, don’t worry ladies he calls men “butches” too so it’s okay, hold up under any modern logical scrutiny? However beyond all this and in no way impacting my score, I find the use of the “N” word problematic for me as a white listener. This is bound to come up again if virtually any other rap albums are featured on this list so let me address it specifically once. The totality of this album is noticeably light on the use of this word by modern rap standards but there is an entire song dedicated to its use so it feels appropriate to comment on this here. At once there is the very obvious difficulty that listening to this music creates an environment in which I have to repeatedly hear a word that I do not want to and cannot repeat which is almost the exact stated purpose of a song, to get stuck in your head. I was raised in some poor parts of the South, and I have heard this word said more to me in person by people of all shades than I ever need to have heard it. It is a hateful, debasing word to me no matter whose mouth it is in, and I simply cannot understand, rationalize, or support its use by anyone. Arguments that it is somehow a reclamation of a hate word by the oppressed do not hold water with me. It’s not an a word appropriated by the oppressors from some vestige of common black culture. It’s a word of the slavers, of the unjustifiable time when men fully believed they could own another human being to be treated like a lesser animal. These ideas and this word need to come to an end. It is a remnant of a bygone time that we are all best healing from and leaving behind. It is a label of “other” that is unsustainable in our globally connected era. Never again should anyone live in fear of being owned. This is not to say that the experiences of Africans at the hands of European and American slavers should never be forgotten. Let it forever be a cautionary tale of the inhumanity that humans can visit upon other humans, but letting it become a cultural identity serves no one.

Well there we have it - served up THREE American c(rap) albums in SIX. days. I now know beyond doubt what genre dominates and pollutes this list and why my average star rating is 2.62. 1/5 27/2/26

He needs some cool tunes, not just any will suffice But they didn't have Ice-T, so he bought Vanilla Ice.

Gangsta Rap. Why? 24 largely indistinguishable tracks. Only hightlight is the sampling on Black Sabbath on the track "Midnight".

Intéressante découverte mais je ne réécouterais pas.

nope.

1. home - 1 2. firzt - 0 3. zip - 1 4. contract - 2 5. mind - 1 6. huztler - 1 7. ed - 0 8. bitchez - 0 9. niga - 1 10. gangzter - 2 11. houze - 1 12. zez - 0 13. fly - 1 14. midnight - 1 15. chicken - 0 16. mvp - 2 17. rich - 2 18. body - 0 19. die - 0 20. fieldz - 1 21. killer - 0 22. ryhme - 0 23. touuer - 1 24. year - 0

DNF - don't think this one is for me. It's hard to take this album serious because it dated so poorly. "i'm the illest"??? ik it's the slang of the era but this just isn't for me and that's okay!

Total mince

I'm sure it hit hard back in the day, but comes across as corny now.

No va

Since I don't consider rap as music I didn't bother.

Despite being only 1h12m - it felt like it was never going to end. Not a single memorable track.

O.G. Original Gangster (1991) is the fourth studio album by Ice-T. Okay, so this is the first album that I couldn’t bring myself to listen to all the way through so I’m not going to even attempt a review. Gangsta Rap is not for me, and I feel alright about that. I slogged through nine songs, but that wasn’t even half way through as the album has a whopping twenty-four!!

I couldn't even finish this album.

Mucho rap, meh

I skipped this one, was put off at the first few songs. Not my thing.

Wel doorheen te komen, maar niet helemaal mijn ding.

Shite Sandwich Part II

Ich würd's gern gut finden, aber das ist fast noch weiter weg von meiner Baustelle als das Jazz-Gedudel.

Rap US

Oh he needs to stick to acting fr

you sucked in surviving the game

Ice-T, US-amerikanischer Rapper, veröffentlichte O.G. Original Gangster 1991, aufgenommen unter anderem in den Entourage-Studios in Los Angeles. Das Album gilt als einflussreich im Gangsta-Rap, mit Tracks wie „New Jack Hustler“, „Bitches 2“ und „You Played Yourself“. Musikalisch verbindet es harte Beats mit erzählerischem Flow und reflektiert das Leben in den Straßen von Los Angeles. Die Produktion ist präzise, die Themen urbaner Realität direkt und unverblümt. Insgesamt zeigt das Album Ice-Ts Fähigkeit, gesellschaftliche Beobachtungen mit Rap-Performance zu verknüpfen, ohne übertrieben zu wirken. Man muss es nicht unbedingt mögen das ganze Gangstergedöns.

Eh..

Das nächste Album, welches ich mir nicht antue. HipHop und Rap lehne ich grundsätzlich ab! Keine Chance! Vertane Zeit!

Tuve cero intereses de escuchar esto. Desde el primer momento que lo escuché no me gustó para nada

Hiç benlik değil mlsf

en tarzim olmayan genre maalsf

OMG with the bitches and hoes.

Hip Hop, 51 eme album => 1/5

Couldn’t get past the first two songs. Nothing redeemable, absolute trash. I see no artistic value in listening to some pompous fool bragging about all the sex he has and how awesome he is. Zero stars.

this is all i dislike about rap

Not for me.

Dire.

Not my thing

This just reaffirmed my aversion to hip hop

Album reivindicatiu que flipes amb la comunitat negra, etc. S'estil es tipo rap, hip hop, aquest rollo. No m'ha agaradat senir renous de pistola, per jo massa violent.

Kind of remedial raps, with over the top violent lyrics.

Horrible like any other rap

not my vibe. too hiphopie

Poop

Ni intentándolo puedo hacer que me guste el rap. Este álbum es todo lo que no me gusta del estilo, cansino y monótono. Se salva su denuncia social y la canción “Body Count”, en la que extrañamente abandona la monotonía y se pone rockero. Lo demás, para mí, olvidable.

Not for me

I don't give a f*** either

Hip-Hop, Rap

Well, certainly some hip hop classic but the lyrics aged not well at all...misogynic gangsta shit...some political sprinkles and lot of swearing....what has become of ICE T and his announcements on stage recently shows that this has not changed much...

Body Count is ok, but the rest of the album is dull, repetitive, and excessively long. 3/10

No surprise here, sounded like every other album of its type. Plenty of swearing and n word. Very boring and terrible.

Absolutely horrible

Just end my suffering already.

Not for me.

Trash

Early rap has aged worse than any genre since Big Band jazz. 60s flower child psychedelia sounds more current than this poser pretending to be a pimp over a rinky dink drum track

Explicit anger.

They're terrible people.

Not for me. At all

Pretty sure that just about all rap is just going to end in the dustbin of the 1s, no matter how objectively good it is.

Not a rap fan

I cant understand why americans like this piece of shit! American rap is irrelevant outside the US. A shit like this on this list is rubbish. dog shitt nigga you know what i mean nigga...im need a pussy and a have a shootgun, my car is beautiful and i am criminals, careful with me in the midnight bro

Nej tack

Более-менее звучит только переделка песни Black Sabbath, остальное - однообразно и не интересно. 1,5 из 10.

I was not in the head space for this

I’m not really a fan of rap or hip hop. Some of it works for me but most either (a) just leaves me cold; or (b) turns me off completely due to its lyrical content. The beats and music are often fine. Ice-T’s Original Gangster sadly fell into both my dislike categories. I could barely get through any track without hitting skip apart from The Tower which seemed ok mainly because of its interpolation of the theme from Halloween. This is going to be a 1 star.

Instant 0

ma bboooona

First and last time listening to this obnoxious twat

Nope

Not my cup of tea. I crossed not hiphop…

Blind album, know the artist by name. Honestly I might regret giving this a 1 but im just not in the mood for this album. It's just dragging as I am listening and I just wanted it to end.

Albums como este hicieron a la gente pensar que el rap era musica de maliante, la verdad el rap de esta sona nunca me gusto tanto y esta no es la excepcion, 34/100

I liked first impressions, but otherwise . 1

Ghetto trash.

Yet another undeserving rap album. Very disillusioned with this album generator just now. It's throwing up rubbish I never want to listen to lately! Wish there was a zero star rating!

At least the guy is a half-decent actor.

I wanted to like it, but I didn’t. :(

No thank you

Oh man

What made this album qualify for this list? Pure rubbish from the get go. Half a song is a dude running his mouth that LA is the home of the body bag. Another is this dude giving a monologue about an ongoing war in his community while shouting out the various gangs in the 90s. Also calling yourself an OG while you haven’t been formally initiated into any gang for that matter might actually be the saddest thing to do with the album as a whole. Listening to Yoko Ono screaming her way through her “performance” at MoMA for 10 hours might be better than this shit.

Saai... Een ouwehoeralbum met nul muzikale variatie en een boel kinderachtig imponeergedrag. En veel te lang, dat spreekt vanzelf. Donder toch op met je argressieve geblèr.

Stupid. Built for accountants to get money

Not my music

Another rap album

Schlimm!

I know it’s iconic. Not my genre.

Nope

p664. 1991. 1 star. Rap, so wrong audience. All the usual tedious, macho, misogynistic foul mouthed cliches. Might have been fresh and shocking at the time, now it just sounds dated and obnoxious. And at 1hr 12m it outstays its welcome reaaaaall soon.

I keep trying, but I can't do anything with rap and hip hop. This album is no exception. I played a few tracks and quickly moved on. 1/5

Rap stcuk in the early eighties made in 1991, absolute idiot this dude also

Not one of my preferred genres but I'll give it a go. It just seemed boring to me, hard to get through. Did there need to be this many tracks? Quality over quantity. Generic beats. As for the lyrics... Repetitive, bragging, angry.

A nice look at early hip hop but it all sounded the same. Stick to SVU

Das mag ich gar nicht

This one filled my "bad hip-hop" bingo card pretty quickly; cringe braggidoccio, mysogeny, annoying skits, 20 mins too long and dated production. Don't see this one as essential at all. How did this make the list, but no MF Doom?

1 - Odio el Rap

not a fan of this type of music.

1hr12min. You’ve lost me already.

Gonna pass on this. It's Sunday for goodness sake.

Pass

Es un álbum conceptual, pero con música que no es de mi estilo.

Too bad one star is as low as I can go.

So many tracks. Could definitely get rid of track 2 ( first impressions) don't understand why some woman is talking at me. I'll be honest this isn't for me. Sounds like he lives in a pretty rough hood. And guns are everywhere. I could not relate to this at all. Also track 9 was too much. Also they had a habbit of saying you know what I mean, no I haven't got a bloody clue! Overall would not recommend another hour of my life wasted listening to a rubbish album.

2 soundtrack songs I currently enjoy listening to. Fargo, North Dakota (from Fargo) Raphael's Final Act

Not fan of this style

Oof he’s a terrible rapper.

Third hip-hop/RnB album in 5 days, and the weakest of the lot. Low-fi sound only works if you've got a strong flow and compelling storytelling and this doesn't. Has too many skits, basically an album trying to hide that it isn't very good.

I'm extremely biased with this one because Ice T is a punk (not in the good way), but his O.G. Original Gangster is not new, original or even a good representation of Gangsta Rap. 1/5

No

bad

No

Album has some nice samples, but it shows once again how good music is ruined by hiphop/rap.

No thanks

Klassischer Rap.

Awful.

I tried but not for me

Hate this album. Love me some Ice-T on SVU but, this is a disgrace. Horrible example for young black kids that are too impressionable. Yes, I am old white dude, but I do love rap and hip hop - when it is done right. If zero stars was an option Id’ give it that. 0/5, maybe .5/5, but my rating will unfortunately be a 1/5….

Canterbury Bankstown, home of the manoush and the K Mart fool. Mix of different people, quietly going about their lives fool. Down with being down with it, fool they catch a bus or a train, sometimes walk..fool. But hey motherfucker, you are a fool, see fool..(queue the machine gun) fool. No machine guns in Campsie fool, so what's up G? Fool. Fool. Motherfucker. Fool. Fool. Fool. Fool. Fool. Fool. Did I mention to say......fool. Fool. Hit the trip wire, Canterbury Kebabs. Fool. Fool. That's right.....fool. Still here? Fool. Gangsta fool. Fool.

Truly bad. It is 'me me me, woman are whores , look at me'

EH, I'd rather listen to Ice Cube.

This album is vapid and tedious. Every "song" is indistinguishable from the rest. Hip hop is just so bad. Music for posers by posers

Talented Ice-T invents new music. Too american for me and way too long

Ice T, not for me

Ice T? The actor? What a wild album. It was fun and funny and it was hard to tell how serious he being. This was my first time listening to any of his music and I’d put it on par with listening to Bruce Willis music

It wasn't painful but it was boring

Simply not for me

yech!

Hip hop and mysogynistic wannabe "gangsta" rap. Would gladly give this 0 stars. But alas ... 1/5.

Boring

This was the most painful listen to date for sure. The lyrics are so awful it's unbelievable.

1/5 Too many nigga's and bitches.

ni buenas pistas ni buenos flows, no entiendo inglés, seguramente instauró un estilo o tiene buenas letras no lo se

Het schoolvoorbeeld van een rapalbum. Niets voor mij, maar voor liefhebbers waarschijnlijk fijn. Gestopt aan Midnight.

Absoluut mijn ding niet.

I’m BACK with another one star score mother fuckers

No es un disco terrible, pero no pinta nada en esta lista.

Did not like

Who jab you i need