Music for the Masses

Nahhhhhhh too somber

Didnt need 2 Depeche Mode albums. 2/5.

Not very happy songs. Good album

Fine

Long weird album lol. Definitely some good songs in there

Didn’t really do anything good or bad for me

Po hitrem pregledu sm bla zihr, da ne poznam nobenega komada s tega albuma, ampak evo prvi mi je znan - "Never Let Me Down Again". And it's great. (U, sampli od Carmine Burane in "When the Levee Breaks"! Pomojem sicer ne bi dojela, če ne bi prebrala na wiki. Hud začetek za "The Things You Said". Najs prelivanja med komadi. "I Want You Now" je zanimiv, čeprav so te background zvoki že na meji z nadležnostjo. "Pimpf" je zelo grandiose sounding, čeprav ma butast naslov. Honestly, sm upala na nek amazing album za moj 200. album. This was fine.

I’m pretty eh on new wave. It all just sounds so similar. That said, definitely bopped along to Behind the Wheel

This is exactly what I want from my extremely 1980s synth bands and what I thought Violator would bring. Couple of moments on side two that were a touch too weird for me but overall a Good Album.

It straddles a line between fun synth pop and a little too weird. It kind of feels like a Flaming Lips show I went to where they were playing out a rock opera on stage but everyone was too confused/high to understand

First time listening to a complete Depeche mode album. I dig it

A little pretentious sounding

Album started out really strong. but as it went on, some of the songs felt like filler songs to the first few. some songs with just the vocalist singing and nothing else. that may do it for some but wasn't my thing. songs I liked: Never let me down again, the things you said, strange love, behind the wheel 2.5/5

está bueno pero el estilo no me gusta tanto y tiene como unos temas tipo re conceptuales que no me gustaron tanto

Technically impressive, maybe just not for me though

One of my biggest takeaways from doing this has been how much I dig 80s music that I previously thought was corny. Not every song here is great but I definitely see the appeal. A bit dark and dreary in spots. Favorites were Strangelove and Behind The Wheel.

A classic band that I have heard many times but mostly their biggest hits. This album has the same feeling as what I have heard before but the songs doesn't catch me as much. Not bad but just ok. Something the radio would play at work and I wouldn't pay it any mind.

Both a career and genre defining album, this showcases exactly why Depeche Mode is in the Rock Hall, and why they influenced so many who came after them. Never let me down again, Strangelove, Little 15, and Behind the Wheel are all classics, but don’t overlook The Things you Said, I Want You Now, or Pimpf. Just a great album, no skip, top to bottom.

Hyvää kasarisynailua, miellyttävää kuunnella. Ne hitaammat biisit olivat vähä liian ambienttia. Ihan okei.

Depeche Modea oon koittanu useesti kuunnella ja tykännyt kyllä. Ei vaan oo koskaan tarttunu listalle vaikka kovasti pidänkin. Oikein hyvä levy, ilmeisesti jokin suunnan määrittänyt levy DM:n uralla. Kuulosti ihan siltä miltä pitikin.

This was a great album. It may have felt a bit stale by the end, but it's a good unique sound compared to what I've listened to recently.

Der er altså straight bangers her. De lyder bare så sygt, jeg tror når jeg er igennem albummet vil jeg have besluttet om der er for mange sange der ikke rammer helt så hårdt som strangelove, never let me down again osv. 3 sange inde er vi på en 5'er, vi må se om kadencen holder. Efter behind the wheel synes jeg kvaliteten daler lidt. Vi er på en flot 4, men vi kan ikke komme helt derop.

Overraskende godt Det er vist ved at være tid til, at jeg runder op frem for ned 3.8

This album carries the eccentric momentum of a left-handed darkness. That is, until the abject failure of track 7, in which, we the listeners expereince extreme dissonance between jarring normalcy and arbitiary strangeness. From then on, the movement is lost. And while none of the remaining tracks are bad, per se, it still fails in ways, twin ways, to be exact. The first is not of normalcy, but rather routine, examining the qualities of the respective track and only thinking "That's Depeche Mode", and that's alright I suppose. The second is far more worrying to me. It is that of the music acting and moving in strange ways for the sake of strangeways. As if strangeness and 80s pop sensibilities are cohesive on their own. The materials of thoes first six tracks are clearly there, but there's a clear degredation. Still, the remaining tracks sound good, they just don't have that immense evocative appeal of the first six. Quite good overall, but it was to be far greater than it is. 3.5/5.

Echt een heel lekker album

4/5. some good ass synth-pop/goth music, which sits in the middle of what I’d consider to be a trilogy of classics (Black Celebration, This album, Violator.) the production has a very atmospheric quality to it, I can easily get lost in many of these songs like the opener “Never Let me Down Again” or “To Have and Hold.” Only knock I have against it is that the lyrics are sometimes very clunky, but the musics good enough for me to forgive that.

Review - great album. Depeche Mode are so much better than I'd realised. First got into this album after hearing Never Let Me Down Again in The Last Of Us, delved into the whole album and it's great. Creepy, eerie, and horny in equal measure - classic Depeche Mode Score - 8/10 Need to listen? YES

It’s not all great, but it’s consistently pretty good and some of the lesser-known songs are as good as the hits from their other albums.

Listened

I was not a fan of this. Too instrumental and nothing memorable.

All the Emo feels from this great album.

Loved the instrumentals tracks towards the end, "never let me down again" is amazing.

It's kind of strange to think about how a band as big as Depeche Mode has pretty much been faint background noise to my entire adult life. Listening to this album has been my most sustained exposure to their music. It was okay, but I can't say it's going to bring them out of the background noise zone for me.

Very specific sub-genre of electronic dance from the 80's that I just dont vibe with. Every song sounds the same to you, so many more things i'd rather listen to in a club/dance setting. 1.5/5

me putting this on the aux trying to impress vampire trade fave track: sacred

Christ it’s like Morrissey fucked Tetris

Sounds like the soundtrack of an 80’s suspense movie. I kinda dig it!

Fine.

An interesting album. Takes a strong start before veering into something more experimental, landing between their usual sound, goth opera and simplified driving synth riffs. Overall, not a bad outing but doesn't feel engaging as an album.

Liked it. A blast from the past. We used to call this band Depressed Mode in high school cause it’s what the goth kids listened to. Reminds me of the Cure.

I have listened to some Dépêche Mode before and never quite got the fuss but I did really enjoy this. Twice. Since, once again, it was on shuffle. I liked the goth/synth sound and the melodies and rhythms combined nicely.

I do like Depeche Mode and this was goth-y in a way that they made their own. This album just doesn’t have standout highlights though and whilst I enjoyed it, is not one of theirs that I’d revisit in a hurry. Songs often got into a good groove but missed a killer hook or lyric as they do one some other songs.

Struggled to get through the cheesy lyrics

Kind of torn between a three and a for this one. I really do enjoy the old midi soundscape. Reminds me of the Doom soundscape in a way, and I kind of like it.

Not for me

This project has made it clear I am a synth-pop fan since one of my first 5 stars was given to Kraftwerk, a major influence of Depeche Mode! I am now learning that 5 stars, for me, is given to any album I will happily have playing in the background with no skips. This is one of those albums and was so much fun to listen to! There wasn’t a song I wasn’t bobbing my head to.

This album absolutely rules from top to bottom! Kate bush, hounds of love Sooo good and original, had to just rate it the other day or this would pause, it's a 4+, not a 3

More Depeche Mode. And I have just rated the Cure. I have solidly gone back to the 80’s. The new wave alternative scene that was too “soft” for me. Stuff I looked sideways at. But… I have to admit I thoroughly enjoyed this. If just about every song wasn’t a tired love song by the lyrics and actually matched the musical innovation in exploring something other than the narrator’s desire to get laid I might have even considered giving it 5 stars. I have seen reviews ripping its synths and orchestration to shreds. I will simply say: I do not agree. I think this is quite masterful musically. And the vocals of Dave Gahan are fantastic. Give me that baritone any day. The supporting tenor of Martin Gore is wonderful stuff. If only they were singing about something worthwhile. 4 solid. Boolean: Yes haters this does belong here. Very glad to have heard before I die

Depeche Mode is a band I could certainly dive deeper into. I’ve mainly only listened to Violator (a masterpiece) and their most recent albums (which are quite good), but this was outstanding. I’ve always felt they were much bigger in Europe than the U.S. where I am and that they belonged to Europe, but I think they could be one of my favorite bands.

Depeche Mode proving why they were one of the best New Wave bands in the 80s. 8/10

Fun and well produced though I still prefer Violator

I guess?

Somewhat gothic, almost campy record, bringing plenty of melodrama with its dark synths. Love the touches of baroque pop when they bring in strings, really feels like a bridge between their frothy earlier work and the pop perfection of Violator Lyrics aren't the best, but manage to work in the context of the song, as long as you aren't looking for deep introspection or societal analysis

I bet Trent Reznor loves Depeche Mode. Depeche Mode, The Smiths, The Cure...times were dark in the UK. Interestingly, I recognize Strangelove and nothing else on the album but it isn't the most streamed track on the album, that doesn't happen often. Little 15 was one of the singles, it is not a great song. These guys watched too many Zamfir infomercials. The album is getting worse. Behind The Wheel feels like a knock-off Bond theme. The album is slowly descending into awfulness. I Want You Now has some weird tube breathing noises and some found sound of a radio broadcast that stretches into To Have And To Hold. Pimpf sounds like something a kid on his home computer in 1987 created for a MIDI file. This album might have gotten a little worse, song by song.

A culminância de mais de trinta anos de música Pop, temos Depeche Mode. Uma banda tão ótima e requintada que é difícil achar as palavras certas para seus discos. Masses não chega a superar o apoteótico Violator em meus olhos, mas não está tão longe. De fato, eu adoraria apenas copiar e colar minha review de Violator aqui. Enxergo os dois discos como irmãos, ou talvez, um sendo a germinação das sementes plantadas pelo outro. As composições tradicionais requentadas com palhetas eletrônicas, é isso que define Depeche e é isso que está a mostra aqui. Alguns momentos bem cinemáticos, e ao todo, um ótimo disco. 5/5

This is the album that got me into Depeche Mode. Up this point in my young life I didn't realize that electronic pop could be dark, ominous and completely appealing to a young kid that at the time was really into harder rock and metal. There are perfect pop elements slipped in there as well with HUGE sing along choruses. Now in my 50's I appreciate all the twists and turns and growing living breathing sounds created by synthesizers and human growth you can hear in the entire discography. I own the album on cassette, cd, vinyl and even have the 101 dvd set. This is the 4 star stepping stone to the next three albums that are all 5 stars.

Creative and interesting. Lead singer is weak, suffers from 80s over-syntehsised sound.

Basic electronic sound, more polish than most 80s electronic bands, but nothing stand out.

A legendary band coming into their own. Often a better singles band over the years, here DM starts to put together an album worth of quality as they build up to the legendary Violator.

Making my Ops colleagues proud by loving this one.

These guys have a whole thing going on that's all their own, and sometimes I feel it and sometimes I just don't. This feels like an album to listen to late on a winter's evening with a small lamp in the corner and Dad thoughts on your mind.

I haven't spent all that much time with Depeche Mode outside of Violator, and it's possible this was the first time I've heard this. I appreciated the restraint they showed throughout and their efforts to mix up the song structures and dynamics. It almost lost me when it moved into a pair of chamber music songs, but then they reopened the aperture on "Behind the Wheel," and I got pulled back into the second half. Lots of Christian imagery, but it feels like they're not just aiming for cheap taboo. I could see myself growing to like this if I had encountered it when I was much younger. However, the first time through, nothing grabbed me the way Violator does. Chalk it up to this not being accessible, which doesn't mean bad. It feels worthy of a deeper listen, but not sure I'll come back for it.

Molto bello, le canzoni hanno tutte questa atmosfera ipnotica che adoro, un po’ lungo però

Not sure what I expected from this, but it was flat and had little substance. Perfectly good for what it is - I’m sure at the time it had a lot more impact, but hearing it for the first time it was really nothing to write home about for me.

Didn’t enjoy as much as I thought I would. Having only really heard Depeche Mode’s big singles I was looking forward to this. Ok, but not great

SO fun

Music for the Masses - Depeche Mode (1987) So many people don't actually like Depeche Mode. I always thought they were a great and interesting band, sonically speaking. This album and Violator (which I'm eager to listen to) are, I believe, the only 2 albums by them that made it to this list. So what to say about Music for the Masses? I had never listened to it before but it's very similar to any of their previous work, in terms of sound, arrangement, harmonies, tone and themes. The most famous pieces here (Never Let Me Down Again, Strangelove) are not the hits that are, say Love in Itself, People Are People or Masters and Servants, but it's a pretty solid album from beginning to end. I'm keeping my four-star rating. ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 7.5/10 [This album was listened to and rated on May the 18th, 2026. Review was added on October the 19th, 2026.]

do i know what any of the lyrics mean? not really, i’m just here for the synthy ballad bangers. when i see beauty there’s no doubt / im one of the devout!!!

I have this album, a gift from a former girlfriend. Even with the positive Nostalgia, this was dull. Guess I was never meant to be a Depeche Mode fan.

мне прям очень понравилось! потрясающий альбом когда я полноценно реализую свой гиперфикс на разборе музыки, то хочу и у них понять какие технические приемы они используют есть ощущение, что есть что-то похожее в классической музыке

To have and to hold агент оранге невер лет ми давн агейн мне понравилось но я 0 треков добавил, поэтому 3 это много.

Haven't listened to much Depeche Mode other than the pop hits but I quite liked it

It's alright. Definitely not my thing, though. It's not that I couldn't bear to listen, but nothing particularly piqued my interest.

Ikke for meg..

Liker soundet, noen kule låter, kubbe hørt på noen ganger men ikke noe som enkeltvis helt fester seg ved gjennomlytting

Memories from Tallinn

Not a bad album, juts very samey. I'm not the biggest Depeche Mode fan, but I can appreciate them for being different and interesting. However, this album had some good stuff, and lots of crap in my opinion.

Netyčia du kartus perklausiau, šiaip oš antro tikrai labai patiko albumas, galima dažniau klausytis.

81/100. I really do love Depeche Mode’s sound, and this album is another great example of why. The synth work is fantastic, creating a dark and melancholic atmosphere. The production has a cold and spacious quality to it, yet the songs still carry a strong emotional core. The vocals are excellent as usual, bringing a sense of vulnerability and tension that fits the music perfectly.

Feeling a bit harsh. Not quite as goth moody as the cure, not quite as iconic as a lot of their later stuff

Didn’t enjoy this as much as the previous album from them but it wasn’t bad by any means. Did just sort of blend into the background on a long driving day 3

I liked this! Sounded great.

What makes this different than any other Depeche Mode album? This is not a rhetorical question. I just assume Depeche Mode all sounds the same.

Epic New Wave. They should call this New Tidal Wave. New Kahuna. New Tsunami.

Neat production and I like the dark feel of it. The runtime is long...and the appeal wears thin long before the hour is up. I don't think I'm quite sad enough. Really cool record but ultimately kind of one-note and melancholy.

by no means a real revelation to me but HEALTH really do owe kind of their entire contemporary career to these guys, don't they? put some slightly more punchy drums on it and The Things You Said would've slotted really neatly onto the B-side of any of those recent albums. anyway this one is a weird one. it doesn't feel as "complete" of an album as Violator, which felt on my first listen (and still feels) like a very singular, driven work with a tightly-focused vision. really excellent singles — Never Let Me Down Again is one of the best songs in their discography and a very powerful opener. To Have and To Hold is one of the most slaveringly erotic songs ever. which is why it's SO funny when you get to Nothing and the whole record just steps on a fucking landmine. one of the most jarring shifts in sound/tone i've heard in god knows how long. and then after that you get what sounds like 5 minutes of spooky haunted house music that somehow got put on the master before they shipped it out? very strange!

I’m riding a bike so it’s day two of currently have like 5 km done in about 30 minutes in. I started this album yesterday a few songs in and I finished it today. I did not enjoy it. I thought I would because I know one song of the album, which is the probably like the most famous song ever, but I didn’t enjoy the album as much as I thought. The album they remind me slightly of Stranger Things season one and two because I had that like 80s atmosphere and 80s vibe which I kinda enjoyed again but not so much. I read this album two out of five. I don’t think it’s amazing. I hated the songs that we’re just instrumental.

Surprised how much this album didn't connect with me. I had high expectations since I love Violator, but there's an edge that's absent from this album preventing it from being as great. It was a perfectly fine listen, but didn't have nearly as much staying power or gripping melodic lines. Decent but inferior. Top tracks: Never Let Me Down Again, Behind the Wheel, Nothing

Have heard of Depeche Mode Have not listened to music for the masses Have heard a couple of singles. Loved it. I think I was on the fringe of Depeche mode. Have heard some and like it, but never really dived into it. Plenty of the music I listen to is clearly influenced by Depeche mode. I'll definitely dig into the catalogue now.

Amazing electro-pop from Britain. I don't think there's a single real instrument on the album outside of a piano and a heavily filtered guitar. And I doubt the guitar is there. You've got the hits, sure, but the rest of the album is gold. Ending the album on "Pimpf" will get you the original release. After that you've just got B-sides from single releases. They're not bad but are unnecessary. My rating: 5/5

not a genre I gravitate toward but I love a goth club vibe, I’m never mad at it. Found myself not paying attention to the lyrics and more just enjoying the atmosphere the sound created. Gonna go read them to see what I missed🫡

Classico classique encore hein mais pas hyper mon style

Que lastima que no lo hubiera podido escuchar todo de una sentada, porque me pareció increíble, innovador para su época, con mezcla de ruidos poco comunes, pero efectivos. Gran Álbum

this album got me like *snore* mi mi mi mi *snore* mi mi mi mi *snore* mi mi mi mi

Not a fan of the instrumental track, otherwise fantastic album.

I don't think I'll ever understand the love for this band. I have a couple of their releases on my shelves (not this one), but despite trying, they never really leave a lasting impact. Heard before ❌️ Listened this time ✅️ Revisit ❌️ ★★★☆☆ (5/10) Total reviewed : 315 Already owned : 70 Purchased : 15 To buy : 4 Nope : 226

I remember spinning Behind the Wheel on my college AM station. It's hard to see in real time what an album means in the broader picture but for Depeche Mode this darkly seductive, meticulously crafted, and emotionally charged album finds them at their most transformative. It captures the moment they stopped being cult favorites and became global icons — not by softening their sound, but by amplifying its depth, drama, and ambition. I want this in my vinyl collection every day of the week.

Album #149 Depeche Mode: Music for the Masses If this is what the masses actually listened to, the world would be a better place. Dark synthpop is such a unique vibe, and nobody does it better than Depeche Mode. The 80s will always be my favourite decade for music, for whatever reason, the production of the time just fills me with such a sense of nostalgia and yearning for a time that I never lived through. Depeche Mode are one of the finest bands of the era, combining the indifference of Joy Division with the sound of Tears For Fears, resulting in the best of both goth and pop. Though Music for the Masses isn’t as anthemic and iconic as their eventual masterpiece, Violator, it certainly was their finest effort at the time it came out. The atmosphere and texture were all there, they just hadn’t perfected the hooks and melodies the way that they would on Violator; though the signs were there already with songs like Never Let Me Down Again. This album (or Black Celebration) are the perfect soundtrack if you want to dance yet maintain your nonchalant nihilist aura (which I assume is a common dilemma). Best Songs: Never Let Me Down Again, Strangelove, Behind The Wheel Worst Song: To Have And To Hold Score out of 10: 8.5

First time listening to Depeche Mode and I'm genuinely impressed. If not because of this website, I might never find this album. There are so many good tracks in this album, especially love "Little 15" and "Pimpf"; the later one (instrumental with some chanting) is so dramatic and unnerving. The opening song "Never Let Me Down Again" somehow reminds me of "Cities in Dust" by Siouxsie & The Banshees...

Depeche mode was one of the first bands I felt a deep connection to with lyrics, held so much meaning for me as I was growing up. This album is amazing, and to be honest, today I find it astonishing how popular they were back then, considering how consistently dark and serious the mood of most of the songs is... I haven’t listened to it in a long time, but it remains an absolute classic. Looking back, martin gore’s lyrics always resonated with me because, at a time when the role of men wasn’t particularly diverse, they described men and masculinity in a context different from the typical, classic male role of the time (men who feel no pain, are dominant etc.). Definitely meant a lot of hope and comfort to my younger self. Favorites of this album are “behind the wheel,” “to have and to hold,” and of course “pimpf” with its great music video!

One of several highlights from this band.

Dark, adventurous, and experimental, Music for the Masses is a defining electronic pop album, and I can see why it brought Depeche Mode so much success.

Another decent

Few weird ones but overall decent

No standout songs but a decent listen

a whole album of dirgy synth music, yippee!

Great album from the Essex boys

Little 15 sounded predatory and gross. A-side was weak. Not my kind of music.

Didn't listen yet

I came into my Depeche fandom via the live album that covered this tour, 101. I of course knew about Personal Jesus at the time, but still didn’t have Violator, which would be my next (along with Some Great Reward and Black Celebration). It’s amazing how cavernous Never Let Me Down sounds next to the material from all 3 of those studio albums, the whole thing sounds like it was recorded in a reverb chamber. It sounds mammoth! What’s odd listening to this in retrospect, but trying to put myself in the shoes of a 1987 listener, is how slight some of the side b material is compared with Violator and SOFAD. Behind the Wheel and Nothing are classics, I Want You Now is a bit of a Gore misfire, and then there are 2 near instrumentals. For such an important record in their trajectory, it’s very much 3 singles and 2 solid album cuts and then...shrugs.

- I ❤️ goth girls

Yet another big group where this is my first full listen to one of their projects and its great. The overwhelming sense of dread and despair in some of these instrumentals really make the record for me. Especially with how haunting the vocals sound with that reverb. Type of record I'd want to hear at the end of the world. Awesome intro to this group (beyond some of their bigger songs) that gets me excited to listen to more.

like most of the old, well-known albums - inconsistent is the key 6.5/10 Will I add this album to my library? no

ha mi scho lang uf das gfreut. well s andere vo ihne wo uf de liste isch isch krass geil. erste song isch en super istiig. sini stimm plus die synths plus die mega gated drums sind soo e killer kombi. ok bis etz de erst am beste hä. aber sacred au no recht geil uuuh refrain mega dissonanze mega cool. nüt gseit. um was goht little 15?

the thinga you said isch megaaa depeche mode wauw little 15 hetmer leider nödso gfalle pimpf isch en riiiese titel de "song" ah sich wär eig cool als interlude aber eso echli lang? agent orange isch megaa schön hmm weiss nöd, es isch halt mega depeche mode und drum cool aber s isch villes ah mier verbii

I can't really quantify why I like Depeche Mode. It's not my normal kind of thing. But it all comes together in a way that's very pleasing. A couple songs have annoying production choices, but even those songs have parts that are just really catchy or compelling. Also, Strangelove is SO GOOD. Makes me want to dance in a dark, moody club.

Ah yes, more Depeche Mode. Do the masses like whiny synth music? I guess they do, since this was a wildly popular album. "Violator" justified itself with "Personal Jesus," but this record doesn't have any standout tracks like that for me. The music is pretty consistently uninteresting to me, it just doesn't have any force behind it. It's not completely unpleasant, though. 3 stars

Great album, love Never Let Me Down Again

Good, fun

A brilliant album from an incredible 80s band . They had a dream run of records into the 90s

🥱

literally the only thing i know about depeche mode is that their name is depeche mode. is this the grunge equivalent to the pet shop boys? is never let me down homoerotic or about drugs? probably drugs but that's boring the things you said--my brother listens to more recent artists who sing like this. who???? i do enjoy this completely '80s techno sound in a weird way. like it's so dated and of its time but that's why i enjoy it. sacred--actually this would be a great dance track in a club i want you now--oh i don't like this intro but the song is actually decent pimpf--wow such drama lost attention for the last few tracks but they're just bonus from the cd release so who cares strong motifs of lovelustandreligion, actually more mixed up than that but i can only do so much with simple text. very strongly connected to leonard cohen's i'm your man (1988). imagine the most like '80s techno synth imaginable, and both albums fit that. actually now i'm queuing up first we take manhattan after this. the only thing i'm docking points for is that they need to be a lot gayer. like come on, str**ght people techno? honestly?

Ive worn my Violater CD though, and I haven't listen to much more depeche mode. Much like Violator, this is very good dark synth-pop, but it shows it's age much more. Hard to beat violater though. 7/10

Thought this album was really cool and super weird. Love the effects and cool rifts.

Interesting listen. Haven't heard this record in decades and it sounds so dated. I still enjoy it, but man, it hasn't matured well.

Do you like '80 snare drum, I hope so because we put some 80 snare drum in your '80 snare drum so you can 80 snare drum while you 80 snare drum.

Not my favorite but I know they do have some good VB music

Catchy

Overall Rating - 2.89/5 (5.79/10). Not really my style of music. These guys are good at it, but I'm just not a fan.

Great 80s indie synth-pop.

Really good album

England during the 80s synth pop was huge. Erasure and Pet Shop Boys were huge. But they were also cheerful and filled with escapism. But Depeche Mode was the one to really use synth pop to capture the darkness of the Thatcher's era. Pensive and not always danceable, but deep and contemplative. Music for the Masses is excellent but it is not even close to their best.

Dark, kinda gay, very British, very 80s, very cold, very cool.

Am I just now realizing Depeche Mode fucking slaps?? This is my second album from them, and it's also extremely good. They have an iconic sound that sounds very 80's, but in a good way. I'm giving this another 5/5

Most songs give off the same vibes but each one has its own unique little instrumental flourish so you kinda just have to decide which flourish you like best when trying to come up with a favourite song.

I'm a sucker for goofy synths but the melodrama is a little err distracting.

Idlk

Is Violator the better album? Yeah, probably. But I like this. The first 6 songs and Nothing are all great. The middle isn't perfect, but it's a damn great album, and a great Depeche Mode album.

excellent really liked it

Their international breakthrough album, it's dark and mystifying with a blend of synthpop and industrial aesthetics. Martin Gore and Dave Gahan really nailed this sound, to the point where this album would provide the blueprint for their music going forward. "Never Let Me Down Again" is the crowning jewel of the record, opening with really interesting synth passages and a haunting melody. The pounding drums echo through your ear, as Dave Gahan croons about trust and uneasy relationships. This theme continues into the next song "The Things You Said", another great song with a similarly dark instrumental and lyrics about betraying trust. Other great songs are the intense "Strangelove" and "Behind The Wheel". The deeper cuts are mostly fine, "Sacred" is pretty haunting, and "Little 15" is pretty unconfortable but that was kind of the point of the song, "Nothing" is a great song as well, right before the atmospheric outro "Pimpf". Overall I found this album to be quite enjoyable and definitely a good one for when you're in a darker mood or driving at night. There was only one dud for me and that was "I want you now". The heavy breathing sounds kinda icked me out. still! I had fun listening to this and definitely see why it's considered a classic of it's kind.

Great album. Plenty of their best songs, and most of the deeper cuts were very good as well. There was one song ("I Want You Now") with a bunch of heavy breathing and... other noises, that I really didn't care for at all.

Largely very good moody goth synth pop - definitely a cut above the usual fare we are being served in this genre by the book. I'm not sold on the final track but I'll let it slide

I've never understood Depeche Mode, and I probably never will. It's just such a dreary, boring thing, with an unbelievable amount of hype.

Chill

good. felt the 80s.

solidly forgettable

I definitely want to listen to the album again, it's both interesting and enjoyable. The songs towards the end I didn't enjoy as much as the others, though. My favorite song of the album is Strangelove.

Definitely sounds like it came out in 1987. I get it though. Some solid bangerz on this one.

First few songs really good

overraskende godt, havde lidt svært ved at tage mig sammen til at lytte til det, fordi jeg allerede havde hørt violator. Men det er virkelig godt og sammenhængende og man føler virkelig man bliver taget igennem en historie. Det Synth-poppet new wave lyd bliver også blandet med lidt rock og det er virkelig sådan mørkt og erotisk på en eller anden måde. Det er noget af den bedste 80'er lyd jeg har hørt hvis jeg skal være ærlig, det lyder næsten helt synthwave agtig noget af det. Det løftede dem til stadion niveau og de sluttede også deres tour af med en koncert for 70.000 mennesker åbenbart, hvilket er pænt mange mennesker. Det er her man siger de virkelig fandt deres lyd og dannede bro mellem deres tidligere og det de senere lavede som var violator, som jo er det jeg forbinder depeche mode med. Generelt meget positivt overrasket over hvor godt og stemningsfuldt et album det er.

Standard eighties sound. Nothing exciting.

These guys should not be famous

Depeche Mode started to stretch their wings here and develop, something which culminated in their masterpiece: Violator. My criticism of the album is the production leaves the songs sounding flat and sterile and I recommend listening to them on the live album 101. On 101 the songs become more muscular and organic. WIth Never let me down again really shining.

I'm so sick and saddened because looking at the reviews I'm realizing for the first time in my life that Depeche Mode isn't universally loved. How can you feel anything but cool while listening to this. The only reason this isn't a five is because of the weirdness at the end, as evidenced by how few plays those last few tracks get compared to the rest of the album.

Strong 4. Some quality tunes - strong 80's vibes (sometimes to the detriment of the songs) - a couple of bum tracks (Pimpf?) mean its not a 5.

Not the first of their broody style. Not their best album. Not their biggest hits. That said, its decent enough for a 1,001 list; not sure it makes the top 500.

4/5

Maybe a little more fun than the Smiths.

I was a bit disappointed in the album as a whole. I put on their greatest hits after and really enjoyed it.

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Surprised at how much I enjoyed this album. Added a few songs to my Playlists, will deffo be listening to it again

If I were about ten years older, Depeche Mode might have become one of ny favorite bands. There’s a lot I like about them and this album. They have a distinct sound - which works against them in some ways as some tracks sound similar. Still a solid album, though.

God I love this era of music, pre-autotune with great 80's synth sounds. The fodder for a million-million mix tapes. It carves me to my core. I'm not the most enthusiastic fan of Depeche Mode, but the first side of the album is the sweet spot for me. I never owned this album, but experienced it on the dance floor and at parties and so far every song on the first side is amazing and brings back fond memories of peak 80's. The second side is also quite good, but not quite up to side 1, but is dark and interesting.

Depeche is a good music to listen to when you're wanting interesting and dark background music. It can be monotonous and droning, but not in a bad way. More like a brooding, pensive way. I liked the album and might go back to it again, but not quickly. I'm not necessarily drawn heavily to it, but I enjoyed the experience.

It's fine. I've heard better Depeche Mode. I really enjoy Violator. I'm noticing the songs aren't particularly long, but they feel long. I'm not really getting a lot from this, it feels very dated and if I'm honest, boring. It's one of those albums where I'm forcing myself to listen to it. I had to skip through the second half of Little 15 to see if anything happened in it, if it was building up to anything. Nope. Violator is awesome, this album is boring.

Not my favorite Depeche Mode album but it is still pretty good.

Just not that fussed on Depeche Mode, even that other album i wasn't that keen on

4.4 stars!!

Maybe I had high expectations but this was a really underwhelming album. Very monotonous and uninteresting. It did capture the era it was created during but I listen to far better ones than this.

I've never really knew all that many Depeche Mode songs outside of the biggest hits but they've been on my get-familiar-with list for aeons at this point. Well, now was the time and fucking hell, this was one of those albums I immediately knew I just had to give a whole five stars to. Played it a total of three times today and yeah, seems like I have a lot of work to do, going through their whole catalogue now.

Its not my tipe of music, kinda boring, meh...

Depeche Mode lite. It’s an ok album, but low energy. Pimpf is an over the top master class but I’m not sure in what.

I don't think Depeche Mode is as influential and important as the writer of this list seems to think. It's fine, but I think I could've died just fine without this one.

I liked it.

Im tired of it all sounding the same and some instrumental but it is good just let me listen to one song every few shuffles on a playlist. Full album was too much. 2

Muy atmosférico

It was ok. I didn’t love it.

Knew and liked "Never Let Me Down" off here but hadn't heard the rest of the album. Generally liked it, although it could get a bit repetitive in some songs. "Nothing" was the other big standout here for me, but also enjoyed "Strangelove" and "Sacred"

This is kind of the best. Not much stands out directly, but what a vibe. I’ll need a few more listens.

There’s nothing fundamentally wrong with Depeche Mode , they just aren’t for me. And all the elements that aren’t for me are the heart of this. Dave Gahans voice is perfect for this but I find it a bit one note, and the production is dark and brooding but lacks light and shade. However, where the band tries different things like the spy movie organ on sacred or the weird layered vocals on pimpf they are far more interesting

Pretty good album. Electro/New Wave ish. Some of it is not to my taste, but overall I liked it. The first three tracks are the best.

Added 5/10 tracks. Favourite tracks: Strangelove, Never Let Me Down Again, Behind the Wheel. 3.5/5

I do love a good Depeche Mode

I had never heard these songs from Depeche Mode (filthy casual that I am) before, and I'm quite impressed. Never Let Me Down Again and Strangelove especially are very good songs that are almost better than Personal Jesus or Enjoy the Silence. I think the synths on this album are especially standout, compared to the other Depeche Mode album. This album has a heavy and great atmosphere about it.

Creepy and dark in the correct way. Never Let Me Down Again is a great opener, and the album never really lets up from there. The Things You Said, Little 15, and Nothing are all solid tracks that mix that sort of dark synth and British new wave into something that works well. The album ends with Pimpf, which is just a five minute instrumental with a choir, and it's weird that the album just ends with a Castlevania theme honestly.

Känns som låtarna aldrig kommer igång

I guess I’m not one of the masses

A classic, a beautiful, haunting, perfect classic. Thank you for stressing me out in public transport Depeche Mode Album <3.

Ok

Powerful. Industrial. Genuinely Inventive. Glad its here.

Сколько ни пытаюсь, но заставить себя полюбить музыку Depeche Mode не могу. Хотя музыка качественная. Но меня она не задевает

Yeah, alright

Nice 80s goth album

Music for the asses

synth pop really isnt my style but it still was a fun listen very good for exercising to as well

As I started to listen to this for the first time in almost 40 years, I was thinking….y’know, maybe I’ve been too hard on Depeche Mode. I mean, It’s irony and repetitive and the like, and I really shouldn’t like any of it, but…a lot of this sounds better in 2026 than it did then. But there’s some clunkers in here, too, especially “I Want You Now” (laughably ridiculous, awkward), “Pimpf” (pointless rhythmic exercise) and “Sacred” (portentous).

It’s great background music, but there’s a lot happening under the surface—tension, atmosphere, and little production tricks that make the album feel deeper every time I hear it. Since I know the 101 versions better, it’s interesting how different the studio tracks feel. Live, everything is bigger and more aggressive, almost built for a crowd. On the album, though, the songs are cooler and more minimal, like they’re meant to pull you inward instead of outward.

🥀

Their sixth album. New Wave / Synth Pop. I am a huge fan of other Depeche Mode albums. Violator being an example. This one is a bit too brooding for me and falls flat. It's good bit that's all.

Не все треки понравились но однозначно топ.

Not in fact music for the masses, this felt very eerie and ominous and I quite like that and how it kind of contrasts with the title.

Kinda genius?

Enjoyed but I feel they have better

Muy buen disco y qué forma de iniciarlo. El pero que le pongo es ese final, me suena a esas canciones que usan los artistas entre una canción y otra para descansar o cambiarse.

Excelente álbum

Okay so I really do like Depeche Mode!!! I was so happy to get an album from them because my dad usually listen to them so I knew them from before and have listen to them before as well.

Love the 80s vibe.

Está muy oscuro para mí pero sí me gustó. Aprecio que hayan tenido tanta avanzada y por eso después se volvieran referentes.

Me parece disco muy bueno, no lo escucharía siempre. Como muy de mambo. Destacó mucho los teclados de la banda, timbres que usan que jamás se ocurriría usar. Capas que si entendiera las letras sería otra la cuestión.

Que temon never let me down again, entra en el panteon de grandes inicios de discos. Tiene picos altos y bajos. Particularmente no es un disco que disfrute escuchandolo pero lo aprecio como obra. Tiene momentos que me dan ganas de sacarlo directamente y un poco me aburre tanta oscuridad que quiere transmitir el disco, pero también tiene puntos excelentes con Nothing, never let me down y Strangelove. No es de los que guardo. P.d. que onda con Pimpf, flasharon ahi

Music for the Masses is a 5/5 for me—just dark, catchy, and really easy to vibe with. Dave Gahan sounds great on it, and it reminds me how good Depeche Mode are at making pop albums. Violator’s still my favourite though.

It's Synth and it's British. It was alright but no songs in this album particularly stood out to me.

Poo

Aight

Nooit grote fan geweest 2,5

afwisselend bangers met mid, algemeen wel nog nice

Not bad

Great album! Love Depeche Mode! Highly recommend!

8 - GOOD

muy vampiresco pero ñe

Just pretty rubbish

Really good album, bit overshadowed by Violator but can comfortably stand against it. Strangelove is their best song.

This album is peak 80s. Reminds me of disco. Very "Music for the masses" disco. Feels like a somewhat generic "You spin me round" if it was an album. Strangelove was the song that got me to this point and it's only song 3/14. Half the songs are also just instrumental. Maybe because I'm listening at work I don't really see the main point here, but it felt more like background 80s elevator music that you'd hear before going to a disco skating rink or something?

Classic Depeche Mode at their best. Love this album. Timeless.

3/5

Enjoyed the other Depeche Mode album a bit better, but still some interesting stuff going on with Music for the Masses.

Depeche Mode is pretty good on its own but I feel like you really have to buy into "Depeche Mode: The Band" to love Depeche Mode. Maybe with a little more time I will but for now, all I'll say is that these guys really knew their way around the synthesizer.

Canciones largas, muy similares, se sentían como dark o ns como explicarlo, me aburrió un poco

9/10

Don’t love or hate it so 3 it’s getting

Great album! Favourites : Never Let Me Down Again, Strangelove, Behind The Wheel, Little 15, The Things You said.

Nothing much appealing about this

Enjoyable album. It's not their best in my opinion, but I like the sound they developed here.

Νομίζω πως το συγκεκριμένο άλμπουμ προκάλεσε συναισθήματα μελαγχολίας και νοσταλγίας. Είχε μια πιο αργή ροή αλλα συγχρόνος σε μερικά σημεία ήταν αρκετά ξεχωριστό διότι ανακάτευε χωροδίες και εκκλησιαστικούς ήχους. Επιπλέον μου άρεσε ιδιαίτερα η φωνή του τραγουδιστή Never Let Me Down Again

3.5⭐️/5 04.05.2026

At first I thought this record was too long but then I realized that it can't be made short enough. This is just not a sound that I can sustain for more than maybe 10-15 minutes. I feel like I accidentally wandered into the keyboard aisle and some nerd in the corner is tweaking a preset on a demo keyboard that says KORG in huge letters across the side. A part of me blames Herbie Hancock for drawing our attention to this end of the store. Little 15 and I Want You Now were both excruciating and possibly even criminal, each in its own way. I liked the beginning of To Have And To Hold. The part before the song began. I think that's the nicest thing I can say.

I'm not sure this collection needs two Depeche Mode albums, but this seems like an acceptable choice behind their even better "Violator", and it kind of reminded me of a weird cross between krautrock and The Smiths at times (the former especially with "Pimpf"). I don't think I've ever heard any of the songs on this album, and while overall it didn't really affect my indifference to them, I thought a few tracks were interesting, mainly the pair "Little 15" and "Behind the wheel", but perhaps also the kind of oddball "Strangelove" (whose video sort of teased a vague connection to the movie, but didn't really come through on that). I can see why the production value of the album, and their tours promoting it, resulted in the blockbuster live album "101", recorded at a sold out Rose Bowl in 1988; they seemed to have graduated to the big time with this one.

Broody moody brit pop hits like a gentle sandbag to the head. I enjoyed this more than I expected to, wouldn't mind hearing it again, and yet doubt I will.

Not my thing at all but I guess now I understand why Hot Chip got popular. Enjoyed some moments, but mostly found it boring.

Me gusta mucho depeche mode, escuche los primeros temas con mi bella novia que si bien no los recordaba, le resultaba familiar. Strangelove es un temazo, uno de mis favoritos de este grupo. El ambiente que me transmite este disco es como si fuera un escenario futurista pensado en los 90. La segunda mitad del album se me hizo un poco monótona por lo que no puedo darle 5 estrellas

Me gusta la banda, tiene temazos. Este no es su mejor álbum aunque también tiene buenos temas.

yesssssss

I really wanted to like this, but found it kinda boring. Gothy elements with a EDM base on paper is what I would love.

nice enough

Depeche Mode as their meant to sound. Somewhat industrial danceable pop music. A Kraftwerk influence seems tangible.

Solid album! Lots of deep cuts, great electronic music of the late 80's!

Aldrig fastnat för Depech mode. Inte helt fan av rösten. Inte dåligt dock. En rak trea blir det. Annie är med och lyssnar idag! Hon tyckte inledningsvis 4a pga ljudbild och variationen, men ändrade sig till 3a mot slutet ändå.

Fastnar inte. Föredrog violator framför denna.

Rätt besviken efter förra!

det är lökigt men det är också lite najs

Det är ju svårt att helt gå i i den kalla, men också lite mesiga, världen som är synthmusik. Här lockar DM in mig ena låten och kastar ut mig och bryter förtrollningen i nästa. Jävligt härliga syntar som används, ibland med smakfulla New Order-guror. Blir en snäll fyra för att jag för första gången kan se mig själv sjunga med i detta tillsammans med andra svartklädda I en industrilokal i Hamburg.

Jau sen bija plāns dziļāk paklausīties Depwche Mode, tā kā forši.

That's a great album. Finally something that I know. I saw some negative reviews, and honestly, I don't understand why. Every song in this album is a vibe.

Dramatic and moody. A little repetitive but still has moments of groove. Thoroughly enjoyed Pimpf and Agent Orange.

one writihing mass lay unearthed upon the linoleum

me gusto hasta ahí. arranca bien, arriba, buena vibe, pero después se me hizo bastante monótono

me deprimo. Boring. No lo pude terminar de escuchar.

Not bad but kinda boring

Surely there are plenty of other Depeche Mode albums more worthy for this list?

Liked this!

Mielenkiintoinen projekti. Jotenkin oudolla tavalla myös toimiva. Syna ja synkkyys toimii.

Al principio creí que sería un disco que iba a aburrirme por qué nunca había escuchado un disco completo de Depeche mode, pero que equivocado estaba y mi favorita del disco es "SACRED" por lo que pudieron trasmitirme, sin duda 1000/10

hay algunos temas buenos pero me aburrio

Återigen! Detta är inte ett av deras topfem-album ens. De sitter emellan de fantastiska syntpopskivorna från det tidiga 80-talet och deras helt fantastiska nittiotal, utan att riktigt höra till någon av epokerna. Inga jättebangers, men en kompetent synthskiva. En stark trea.

Fantastic music. Reminded me of how good Depeche Mode is.

Classic, no brainer on this one, but not a complete 5.

Under appreciated album, but not their best by any stretch.

- I love Depeche Mode. - Dave Gahan has one of my favourite voices - love the expressive baritone quality. - Also love the synth work, and the chord progressions. - Love the dark poppy feel of this, and unlike one of the other reviews, I love dancing to it. - This album is a bit hit or miss - I don't love Sacred, Little 15, Pimpf, or I Want You Now for example. The other songs are bangers, though. - It's probably a 3.5 because I skip a few songs, but I'll round up because none of the songs are actively bad and many are actively great.

1. Never Let me Down Again: Muy ochentoso, me gusta. Estilo Stranger Things. 7/10 2. The things you said: Muy tranquilona, siento q va de fondo para hacer cosas, no es nada wow, pero no me disgusta. 7/10 3. Strangelove: Me gusta mucho. Buen ritmo, buena letra. Me gusto bastante. Me hace acordar mucho a otra cancion pero no se a cual. 9/10 4. Sacred: Me gusta, sigue por la misma linea, buen ritmo, buenos arreglos. 8/10 5. Little 15: Me gusta, muy tranquila tambien, no me termina de encantar. 7,25/10. 6. Behind The Wheel: También bastante tranquilona, nada especial, pero me sigue gustando. 7/10 7. I Want You Now: Es más "oscura", de todas formas me sigue gustando. 7/10 8. To Have and To Hold: Sigue esta linea más oscura, me gusto mas la anterior pero igual me gusta. 7/10 9. Nothing: Acá vuelve un poco a los primeros temas, me gusta bastante. 8/10 10. Pimpf: Super instrumental y vuelve a ponerse oscuro, como tema en si meh. 5,5 /10 11. Agent Orange: Sigue instrumental, pero ahora saliendo de la oscuridad, como tema en si. 5,5 /10 12. Never Let Me Down Again: Sigue instrumental, mucho más arriba. Como tema en si. 6/10 13. To Have and To Hold - Spanish Taster: Sigue instrumental y por la misma base. 5/10 14. Pleasure, Little Treasure - Glitter Mix: Gran cierre, me gusta. 7/10 Nota General: Muy ochentoso, me encantó. Quizás en canciones individuales no hay ninguna locura, pero el albúm en si es un viaje, va pasando por momentos un poco más oscuros, un poco mas alegres, un poco mas tranquilos, viaje total. Me gustó mucho como álbum. 8/10

Solid album. I’m not a fan of heavy synths but can appreciate the artistry and sound this has.

No sabría decir bien si me gustó o no. Es interesante, tienen un sonido ciertamente particular. Varias canciones me gustaron, no lo pondría entre mis favoritos, pero sí fue disfrutable.

Never let me down is one of the best DM tracks, the rest is ok but a bit repetitive

I dunno, depeche mode all sounds the same to me.

Neat, a bit of beep boop, a bit of mood. Strangelove stood out as a fun bop. Fun overall, decent somberness and melancholy in the second half of the album. Feeling generous now, but, the music helped, so...

The production is immediately striking. It sounds like what people in the 80s thought the future would sound like. I think I get why this is our dads' favorite band Very good, almost otherworldly. It left me speechless and I'll definitely be revisiting it.

It’s an extremely moody album. I loved all of the tracks in these so there’s no singling out this time. ‘To Have and To Hold’ and ‘To Have and To Hold’ I was really drawn to the 80’s gothic moodiness of the album it gave me visions of Elvira, Labyrinth and Tim Burton. Rating:4/5 GEMV (29.03.2026)

Music for the Masses was somewhat disappointing. After listening to Violator, I expected the album to be more like Violator. There are some songs I really enjoyed, but the rest of the album didnt standout to me.

Not my favourite. Good album, but Depeche Mode were never my thing.

tbh depeche mode has only bangers in their discography

Just depressing sounding. This is my 92nd album in this foray and the first repeat artist I believe. I liked violator much more and even then I think I gave that 3 stars. At least that was interesting.

I liked the synth vibes of this, would listen again but wouldn't go out of my way - hence 4 stars.

De beste sporene her er creme de la creme 80s synthpop – særdeles Never Let Me Down & Behind the Wheel. Størsteparten av de gjenværende sporene holder trått, men så har skiva tre skikkelig irriterende drittlåter som surner lytteopplevelsen. Jeg skipper sjeldent låter, men Little 15, I Want You Now, og Pimpf går meg faktisk på mentalhelsa løs – som er synd når resten av skiva er såpass god.

På sitt beste er dette Kraftwerk i datidas moderne lyddrakt. På sitt verste er låtene helt ok synthpop.

Overraskende tullete greier

Imam neko dugotrajno iracionalno nevoljenje (neću baš reći mržnju) Depeche Mode pa sve čekam Violator da iskoči i da dam šansu. Kad evo nešto drugo. I potvrđuju mi definitivno da nisu ništa više od osrednjih muzičara. Nema ničeg posebnog, sve je tu negdje, zvuči nalik svemu ostalom što su ikad radili. Nikad nisam slušala njihovu pjesmu i pomislila jao kako je ovo zanimljivo. Ali eto, još čekam Violator.

makeeta musaa, hienoja saundeja, tykkään laulajasta

it's cool. quintessential 80s sound without sounding too cheesy

Starts really strong but doesn’t go anywhere in particular

Sounds like Depeche Mode alright

I wore this tape out in middle school. I really like this album.

Expected to like this one more, but honestly felt like I was in church and the vicar was really dreary. 4.5 / 10

7/5

3rd in my list of DM albums!

Very good, enjoyed, not a band I have a great affinity for but would listen again.

Yes, love this voice, excellent songs, really nice.

Maybe I shouldn’t listen to these high off my ass on cold meds, but here I am. Never let me down again sounded like good, solid, typical Brit rock, which it was. I liked the electronic synth in The things you said, his voice was also really nice. Strange love was a bop. Very 80s. Sacred had a good groove to it. I liked Behind the Wheel, and I want you now had a very calming feeling to it. Nothing was exactly what I’d expect coming out of this album. Not in a bad way, it just had a lot of 80s tropes. I have similar thoughts for the rest of the album. I think it was a solid outing. 4/5 ⭐️ 79/1089

Decent enough - not really my kind of thing, but enjoyed, quite mournful sounding

Sounds EXACTLY like Depeche Mode...

There are some bands that just creep me out. Sometimes it’s a good creep, like a horror movie or a Evil Knievel jumping the fountain at Caesar’s Palace. Then we have these fuckers… like a rough hangover praying to the porcelain gods. Like listening to Joe Rogan debate Howard Stern and Tucker Carlson. Thanks, no thanks.