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Interesting in some ways but I’m not listening to this whole thing
Basic mid 90's alt rock. Nothing special but not bad although the record is excessively long
Like this one
Another double album. Can a double album be 5 stars? It’s almost impossible. But this has so many songs. It’s peak and really the end of the original Smashing Pumpkins. I love it. I want to go 5 but i can’t
hmm kiinnostava... uskomattoman paska mutta jollain tasolla myös hyvä ja kuunneltavaa... aivan liian vitun pitkä ehdottomasti. It is quite a feat to have an album this long that somehow doesn't feel bloated. Excellent kickass songs, and even better ballads. BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHA.. alkuun baha että huomioidaan kuinka kova ääninen porvari hulvaton hahatus.. tuplasin vuokrat.. triplasin sähköt ja nelinkertaiset vedet päälle BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! tosiaan antakaa armoa jos viimeiset kymmenen prosenttia jokaisesta laulusta leikataan täälläpäin studiossa heh, joojoo seuraavaa eteen.. seuraavaa jesterin sketsiä kiitos.. hyvähyvä tuhannes lablumi pikkusen alakanttiin here is no why
What would Nigel Thornberry think about this......
Everytime I revisit an album by these guys there's a part of me that thinks I will outgrow them or be less excited about them but that never happens. I just gotta embrace them because they rock.
i def had mateen's CD of this but im not sure i ever listened all the way through until now... i was never a big smashing pumpkins fan but loveee 1979 and have really come around to them thru this list! i really liked it .. big fan!
Two hours of my life stolen to continual fury - for two solid hours all I could do was long for the opening instrumental as it would stop the horrendous vocals and hilarious lyrics. Never have I wavered so hard in my intention to listen to all 1001. Two. Fucking. Hours.
I kinda like Siamese Dream more... but this album is still aspirational and fantastic. Disarm might be my favorite...
emt iha hyvää musaa mut eipä silleen jää mielee kauheesti biisei. Pitkä on!
Very different for the time of its release
Classssicccc. Despite all my rage.
3’5
No notes needed
Schönes alternative Rock Album, tolle Stimmung und Melodien. Angenehme Stimme. 4/5
I don't like the voice. I don't like the rhythms - always meant to disrupt rather than groove. I don't like the guitar - squealy or grungy. Just dull. Satisfied people's idea of what dissatisfied people want.
2 часа, офигеть. ну это такая альтернатива, ни одну песню в общем-то оттуда не узнала.
First time hearing this album and I was a teenager in the 90’s. I think I need another listen. I think it would have been a four star album if it only had two sides
I don't really get the hype
Better than expected. I like the slower songs a lot more.
Good until the guy started singing
It was great. Very cohesive. Glad I finally listened to the whole thing!
Never understood the hype. And now that I’ve listened to the whole album I can honestly say that it is not my kind of music
No. Too much noise
# Playlist Track - Tonight, tonight # Notes - Very biased review. I listed to this for the first time when I was like 14 years old and it blew my mind back then. - Listening to it back to back this whole time, I still get some spectacular moments all over again: - The hopefulness of "Tonight, Tonight" - The riot for "Bullet with butterfly wings" - Summer chill of "1979". - Having said that, the album is objectively super long and can be a bit too hard to approach for new comers. 100% recommended, sure. But going for a "Smashing Pumpkins Best Of" is also understandable!
an album with some perfect songs on it but it ultimately suffers from Being Too Fucking Long. but those great songs on here make it good enough for a 4/5
I am not a Smashing Pumpkins lover or a hater. For the most part, I found the quality of the album to be really good but I'm sorry - nothing justifies that run time. It is nowhere near engaging enough to be the length of a movie. If you have more songs you want to put out, then make a deluxe like everyone else? Bullet With Butterfly Wings is crazy good though.
i had something to say about the album but that was 1h40 of music ago. i really hate his voice. 1979 is a good song though
Amazing mix of songs - not 100% great but overall a very enjoyable listen
4.5/5. It’s long but it’s good, unfortunately they peaked with this record.
Not someone I've ever really listened to but actually quite enjoyed
As someone who bought Siamese Dream when it came out but thought it could stand to lose a couple of tracks, I've always been a bit daunted by the idea of a Smashing Pumpkins double album. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness was pretty much what I expected - there are some good songs here, but it would have just worked better for me if it wasn't so very, very long.
Not for me
5/5. 10/10. 28/28 even. No song is filler. Perfect back and forth between wafty, magical melancholy and nostaliga and angry rock. Listened to this one all through college and glad to revisit. I need to listen to it more often. Wish 1001 albums had more albums that didn't suck.
Not heard this before and after the first two tracks it went in a different direction. I liked this album and that was a surprise.
Good but very long and bloated
Just a good 90’s rock album. Yeah it’s 2 hours long but at this point I listen to so much music it’s like a regular album length to me
1994. alt rock / grunge. 9/10 Tonight, Tonight / To Forgive
Smashing Pumpkins was never the same after they kicked Jimmy Chamberlin out. They lost the driving beat and high energy he provided. This album has strong songs and lavish production, the 90's alternative rock version of Tom Scholtz' studio perfectionism. Listening to the whole thing is, quite frankly, exhausting - needs to be sipped, not chugged. Worth a listen, but I'd still prefer to stream Siamese Dream.
Totally get the polarization. I'm for! I pretty much dig it all. The voice. The drama. The noise. The stupid lyrics. It's a world. A universe. There's nothing shallow about it. It's Billy's world. As a matter of fact, my last album was Prince, and I'd go as far as to say Billy's got Prince beat easily in that category. Not trying to compare the two in any other category, haha. But Billy's going all in for sure. Sweeps me away too! 5 stars alllll day
I've heard this before and I'll happily listen again. Always a triumphant, emotional experience. It can rock out hard and rock you to sleep at times; soothing in its nostalgic melancholia. Which makes sense for a double album, you get two sides of the coin.
4 Stars (11/15)
Um ótimo álbum, com canções fantásticas, mas ao todo, é um álbum bem laborioso de se ouvir. Esse álbum possui filler sim, não adianta negar. Especialmente na segunda parte! Mesmo assim, tenho muita nostalgia e carinho por esse álbum, e suas canções boas são realmente muito boas, algumas das melhores dos anos 90 e do rock alternativo no geral. Gostaria de dar uma nota mais alta, mas esse álbum sofre com sua própria grandeza e ambição. Não consigo entender porque eles não simplesmente lançaram a primeira e a segunda parte desse álbum como discos separados. Faria muito mais sentido, ainda mais porque Mellon Collie está longe de ser um álbum conceitual. Não consigo enxergar um tema que cobre todas as canções aqui. Novamente, ele possui faixas fantásticas, mas possui também fillers esquecíveis que afundam bastante sua qualidade. Por conta disso, é um álbum especialmente difícil de só pegar e ouvir, diferente dos outros melhores lançamentos da banda, como Siamese Dream, Machina e Gish. Uma coisa que me pega, é que esse disco é extremamente adolescente. E não digo isso só porque eu era adolescente quando fiquei viciado nele e no Pumpkins como um todo. Mas tanto sonoramente quanto liricamente esse disco tem uma vibe forte de adolescência, por bem e por mal. Por bem porque te faz sentir aquelas sensações amargas e agridoces da juventude, e por mal porque algumas letras aqui são vergonhosas demais, assim como as coisas que dizíamos durante nossa adolescência. Só é bizarro que o álbum mais adolescente que já ouvi na vida foi feito por um cara que já tinha 28 anos na época que o gravou. Vai entender... E que sorte que gerei esse álbum em um domingo! Imagina ter que ouvir 2 horas seguidas do Billy Corgan gemendo no teu ouvido no meio da semana. Sem condição. 4/5
One for the history books!
A rare double album that is all killer and no filler, though if they made this a single album, it would definitely rival for one of my favorite albums of all time
A classic. Unique & very listenable
Honestly pretty juvenile. I feel like the lyrics are super woe is me and Billy corrigan’s voice annoys me. Not a fan and I don’t really get the hype. Not unlistenable, just not good.
Just cos you can write them doesn't mean they need to be on the album. There's some ok mid 90s 'alt rock' tunes swimming alongside the mediocre ones. It's just all a bit too much Billy Corgan in one sitting for my ears. once I laughed at those lyrics for Zero it was quite hard to take the rest of it seriously.
Pretty killer
It's obviously too long. There are good songs here, but Billy Corgan's voice isn't pleasant enough to listen to for 2 hours. 3 stars.
Great listen, the singles are the best but the whole thing is great
Siamese Dream was a revelation back in 1993 - the booming, upfront and in-your-face wall of guitar - and their Lollapalooza closing set one balmy San Diego night in summer 1994 earned them a permanent fan. I anxiously purchased this album on double cassette on release and set about listening in my base model '87 Civic but the album never really clicked - the "hits" too few and far in between, the volume too loud, the album simply too long. Eventually the cassettes disappeared in the glove box, then into a shoebox, and still today are out in the garage. I was excited after 30 years to give this one a listen and my original opinion remains largely unchanged. A much improved and more capable sound system has helped me find and "favorite" a few gems I missed back then: Here is No Why, To Forgive, Love, Galapagos, Porcelain and Starlight will go into normal rotation. Yes, Bullet still rocks and Zero still soars. But Jellybean, Scorched Earth, and too many others in between lack structure and become annoying. In the end, as an album, this thing remains too varied, too loud, and too long - a chunky mess that needs to lose half its weight to the junk bin but there is enough good to warrant the occasional revisit. 4/5.
So good, though I had never listened to most of this album and fell in love with every morsel of it.
Man, they sure smashed that pumpkin huh.
Decent, reminiscent of the 90s
Det er jo ikkje nett tight, og det er for mange sluttar, men alt i alt står denne seg.
Not a band that I liked, then or now it tuns out. I don't buy into it somehow. They can play. The songs are okay. But I don't feel anything. And now I've read that review that says the singer sounds like Cartman, so I'm just giggling.
Bad pun, dull music
Surprisingly diverse. Only complaint is Billy's sometimes nasal grinding voice
This coud easily be a 4,5 star album for me, if it wasn't so long...perhaps it's not fair to judge it this way as I only listened to it once (as it's so long)...sometimes Billy's voice started to annoy me a bit...some really really good songs on this! Maybe it will grow on me if I give it a couple more spins...
No two ways about it, Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness is looooong. However, to list the good songs on this incredibly ambitious double LP would be...well, I'd list most of them. Mellon Collie is stacked with hits and none of the songs truly feel like filler; an impressive feat for a double album. Billy Corgan was definitely firing on all cylinders, creatively speaking. Not to mention, songs like "1979" and "Thirty-Three" give a glimpse of the ground the Pumpkins would tread for Adore, years later. Still, this is a LONG album, and listening to the whole thing in one sitting can be a daunting time commitment. Especially when considering most of the songs trend toward heavier angsty rockers in the vein of "Jellybelly", "Zero", "Bullet With Butterfly Wings", "Bodies", and "Muzzle"; all songs I enjoy, and not to say there isn't variety, but too much of a good thing can feel like an endurance test. Also, more of a personal gripe, but this isn't that sad or depressing of an album. More like Angus Tee and the Never-ending Tantrum.
A two hour long album!?!? I’m gonna update this review in real time… Wait a minute now this shit kinda bangs… ok about half way through and this has been a roller coaster Of emotions! “Love is suicide”?? Who hurt this brother? Also, 1979 is a banger, makes the whole hour of listening worth it… They went from 1979 to a screamo record then Through the Eyes of a Ruby. I’m not mad just confused but either way I’m waving my shirt above my head and headbanging out the car window… I forgot to keep the updates going but I like the way it ended. This was a looonnnnggg two hour journey but it’s rare for me to be captured for this long, especially by a genre that’s not my go-to. Hell of a record!
En klassiker, stormannsgalskap med høy kvalitet. En lang, men spennende musikalsk reise, lenge leve dobbeltalbumet!
One of my favourrites....liked this album from taking of the plastic. A variery of pop ballads to good grunge.... Highly recommendable. But Gish is the best smashing album
Liker veldig godt flere av låtene, men har fryktelig problemer med stemmen/sangteknikken til vokalisten.
I really should probably rate this 5 stars, the musicality and sound and rhythms are next level but the vocals just don’t do it justice and kind distract me. And it’s way too long
While it is a great album, it does feel a bit bloated
This felt like a whole experience. I like the orchestral parts and softer elements. A lot of different styles in one looong album. Some heavy drum beats and crisp guitar riffs. Not really a fan of the nasal, whiny vocals.
Like listening to an American Shed Seven
3.5
Stunning. Beautifully soft in places, deliciously hard in others
A great album, very grungy and mixes very well loud with quieter moments. I loved the dirty, distorted tone of the electric guitars and Corgan's singing, they create such a grungy vibe. The album also works when slowing it down a bit, like "We Only Come Out At Night", a much more mellow track. This album is packed with amazing songs, I loved: "Zero", "Here Is No Why", "1979", "X.Y.U", "Porcelina Of The Vast Oceans", "Bodies", "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" and "Tonight, Tonight". These were the standouts, but there are many great songs. The whole first half of the first album is just back to back perfection. That being said, I find double albums are always hard because you have to make a project that's cohesive and interesting throughout the whole duration (2 hours here). In this case, I understand why they did it, with the amount of material they had it's justified for it to be so long. But, it does get overlong, having a couple of fillers and overall not all the songs are that strong. I feel that if they had just picked the absolute best songs, they could've had a 5 star perfect album. It's still a very good album, and I really liked it, but a more focused version of the album would've been perfect.
Unsurprisingly, Billy Corgan and the Smashing Pumpkins strove to be even more ambitious here. I mean, how do you (potentially) top the success of "Siamese Dream"? Replace Butch Vig with Alan Mulder and Flood on production, make a double album, give it a little more art in a sonic (and literal) sense. Both sides of the album represent "day" and "night", respectively, with the central message being based on "the human condition of mortal sorrow" to quote Corgan. Sure, I guess. Corgan was never one to shy away from that kinda stuff and you hear it all throughout this album. Pair that with the signature guitar overdubs and a meticulous, yet more efficient recording process (For example, "Thru the Eyes of Ruby" apparently contains 70 separate guitar tracks, which is insane) Believe it or not, there was initially more content planned for this album. Double albums are tough, as they're prone to "filler" and sometimes don't justify the long runtime. I felt that the second side of this album didn't nearly stack up to the first despite housing the timeless "1979". There is a lot to appreciate here artistically though, as the group alternates from heavier elements to softer ballads and even features a live orchestra ("Tonight, Tonight"). Some legendary singles mixed within a lengthy listen.
This album is very long.
I just find this annoying, sorry!
Time Capsule album. Way too long.
Probably the best grunge record I've ever listened to so - at least at this point in life - I really fell in love with The Smashing Pumpkins and now I just want to relisten to their albums I know already. Mellon Collie is long, yeah, but doesn't feel too long at all. It's a beautiful 2 hour long journey that I am glad I could experience and can't wait for next time.
Too long
I am very conflicted about this artist. Instrumentals can be very catchy, but the vocals are so grating to my ears. One song was worth repeating, the rest I can't. 2
This is the second album by The Smashing Pumpkins that I've been served on this site. I was pleasantly surprised by the first one (Siamese Dream) and gave it 4 stars. This album is more of the same. The vocals sound a lot like Mick Jagger, almost to the point where it felt like it was an intentional ploy. Musically it was really good, lots of different sounds and genres. It did feel like it was probably 30 minutes too long and a few of the weaker tracks could have been binned.
Awesome album
Billy Corgan's voice only suits the heavy stuff on this and those are the songs I like least. The songs I like most are ruined by his totally out of place vocals. Hey, I found something to say about this beyond the fact that it's too long, nice!
This is okay but struggles to justify it's runtime
The guitar tone is irritating. The vocals are irritating. The 90s alterna-rock cliches are irritating. But Billy Corgan could write a good pop tune and there are some gems here as well. That said, its almost never worth the effort to find them.
Alternative rockia joka iskee kyllä johonkin, mutta ajanmyötä nasaali määkyminen ottaa kyllä pajatsoon
4.8 - I actually was dreading how long this was and normally I think it's super indulgent and needs trimming. I flew through this album and loved every song
The first disc is a 4.2 or 4.3 for me. Very solid tunes, though i think a bit front-loaded. I like aspects of Porcelina Of the Vast Oceans, but it is a bit of a microcosm of the whole album - some really exciting moments, but a bit too long and gratuitous. The second disc is more of a 3.5 - even though it has one of my top 5 favourite songs of all time, 1979. For me the second disc is much stronger in the second half, the last 4 tracks which are all quieter more downtempo cuts are way more enjoyable for me. The loud grungy moments across both albums feel out of place to me. The best tracks here are quiet and beautiful and sensitive. Tracks like Zero and to some extent Bullet With Butterfly Wings just do not feel like they belong. I think if they cut the album down to one disc mainly focusing on the lighter tracks this might've been a 5 star classic. I would do it something like: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness Tonight, Tonight Here is No Why Galapogos Muzzle Porcelina of the Vast Oceans Take Me Down 1979 Beautiful Lilly (My One and Only) By Starlight Farewell And Goodnight Fave Tracks: Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness, Tonight Tonight, Here Is No Why, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, 1979, By Starlight, Farewell and Goodnight 3.8/5
Virkelig godt album, havde fået en 5'er hvis der ikke var så mange 'aggressive' sange lol
Ihan hyvä, mutta ei omaa makua.
359/1001
Back to back hits.
4 out of 5. Finally heard more from this album besides the singles. A little long but solid effort.
A really, really good album. However, I think it's longer than it needs to be and could have been cut down to a double LP and been much better.
The sound of a generation of burnt out Darias
It's a good album with great riffs and songwriting (although some lyrics seem to be a miss) but it's unfortunate how Billy's voice ruins this music experience. He sounds better in faster and louder parts (covered by a wall of noise), slow or more melodic songs stand no chance. Despite that, I gave it 4 stars cause it's good grunge piece of history.
muy buen álbum no me lo esperaba aunque un poco largo para mi gusto, 7/10.
Gagi bisi isch das gsi. Me no like this. Weiss nüm vill aber hat mir nicht gfalle 2 direkti Rückzug
Thoughts before listening: Huge album for me growing up. The hits are iconic, but this maybe could have used an editor. As a double album there are a few throwaway tracks here, especially the slower songs. Still though it's a classic that I'm glad to revisit. Review: Yeah this is as good as I remember it. Starting off with a cool piano instrumental followed by one of the most inventive pop hits of the alternative era with "Tonight Tonight", you know you're in for a treat. This album is just full of songs that were absolutely monumental for me: "Zero", "Bullet With Butterfly Wings", "Muzzle", etc. This album has the 90s alt-rock big distorted guitar sound, but also is full of classic 70s rock band elements as well. All this being said, it does drag in some places as most 2-hour albums will, and some songs just don't feel necessary. Still, I love it, and I am giving it 5-stars.
Incredible album! This was so significant in my life, I loved the eb and flow of this masterpiece! It may be a couple of tracks too long but it’s hard to find a song I don’t like
It wasn’t bad. I like a good concept album and one exploring the themes of depression, sadness, and loneliness is an interesting idea. But, it doesn’t have to be two hours. It lost interest around the middle of Part 2. Billy Corgan’s voice does start to get grating after a while.
While not my favorite SP album, Mellon Collie has a lot to love. Maybe too much, though. There's beauty in excess, but this gets more into the territory of unnecessary bloat. I love the variety of sounds on this album, it's certainly its biggest strength. From the lush strings of "Tonight, Tonight", to the straight up metal of tracks like "X.Y.U." and "Bodies". The singles are timeless, of course. "1979" and "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" speak for themselves. With a relative lack of low points (apart from "We Only Come Out at Night"), this is a very consistent, if not excessive, record.
Absolute classic
This album is one of the best the 90's had to offer (even with Billy Corgan's insufferable arrogance).
This album would be great if I loved The Smashing Pumpkins. As it stands, I only mildly like them. Great instrumentals, but with vocal work that I just can't get around to liking save for a few songs. '1979' is peak for me though.
This should easily be a 5 star record. Its loaded with great songs. I particularly like their grittier stuff but the softer ballady songs are also very good. The problem for me is, I have never been able to sit through this album in its entirety. I just lose interest and feel it's too much Smashing Pumpkins. Drop at least 8 or 10 songs off this and I would regard it as one of the best ever. 8/10
The Smashing Pumpkins' magnum opus, this double-album is an ambitious odyssey through the sonic landscape of youth, angst, and beauty. Partly due to it's length, but also the journey it takes you on, Mellon Collie does not feel like a traditional album. This is the rare occurrence where a double-album justifies it's length by exploring the full range of human emotions. It's entire structure is intentional (everything Corgan does is). A collage of styles and tones. The progression from day to night, light to dark, hope to despair. It's the band showcasing themselves at their creative peak. The tracks work together to create something greater than the sum of it's parts. The excess isn't a flaw. If the album is about the overwhelming, contradictory, messy intensity of being alive, then it had to be this long. Mellon Collie refuses to be constrained, and the album still feels epic in scale to this day.
Heel gek: de eerste keer dat ik het album luisterde vond ik er niets aan: niet interessant, niet lelijk maar eerder saai. Toen ik het een 2e keer (met koptelefoon op?) luisterde greep het me enorm en vooral Tonigh, Tonight en 1979 zijn heerlijke nummers!
There are a few standout moments in this tracklist for sure, but generally I feel like the overall experience is attenuated given how long the album is. It's not a bad listen for sure, but just a tad bloated with some songs that are pretty bland. 3.2/5 -> 3/5
The fact that Billy Corgan is now a wrestling promoter tells you everything you need to know about his “artistic” philosophy: Make entertainment of the lowest common denominator to appeal to as many dumb people as possible. Given that this album is made up of fairly inoffensive grunge rockers and ballads, I could see having given it three stars if it had been a single album. But nah son, two hours? Two stars. At least the album cover is pretty.
An album with many faces, the volume is alone is astounding but the hidden gems and the hits make this immortal
A sprawling epic of grungy tunes that merges heavy distorted rock and softer subtler sounds (a bit psychedelic at times) with teenage cringey sensitivity and over-emotion. They really just put it all on the table. Somehow seeming both quite pretentious (a 2 hour “concept” album) and fairly unpretentious at the same time (teenage/YA feelings of being sad and mad and misunderstood). A guitar-centric album that has plenty of fuzzed-out ripping chordy riffs and noisy affected guitar solos across the 2 hour run time. Best played loud. They’re at their best when showing their heaviest, angriest, aggressive side. The rest of it is still fine, and necessary to mix the sound up, but don’t grab my attention as much.The first half of side one is really engaging, and then my attention waxes and wanes a bit. But I’m drawn back in when they heavy fuzzy riffs come around.
Good memories. I really love this album but I feel like it has enough filler to dock it a star. And I would not put it on quite the same level as Siamese Dream and Gish. So it's a victim of the band's own greatness - I think Billy would appreciate that, lol.
Lots of hits on this one: “zero”, “tonight tonight”, “1979”, “bullet with butterfly wings”. Kind of forgot how heavy it was! Loses a star due to sheer length (2+hours)
Rating: 3.5 Notable songs: Tonight Tonight, Bullet with Butterfly Wings, 1979 Perfect for putting on in the background. Few Notable bangers. LONG. Not necessarily bad but songs blend together.
Ya lo escuche, buen álbum, aunque no soy tan fan del grupo. Es de esos que reconozco que es bueno, pero nunca me dan ganas de volverlo a oir
I have so many mixed opinions on this. I think I would have enjoyed this a lot more without the vocals or at least better vocals. everything else is pretty nice but also I ain't spending 2 hours with mellon collie. I will come back to it later, just not right now.
Y hasta llegó la genialidad de Corgan, luego con Adore se fue apagando hasta... en fin... Solo por tonight ya merece la pena. Sin embargo el disco ha envejecido mal, tenía mejor recuerdo de él. Me parece demasiado pesado, riffs y sonidos más heavy de lo que me gusta. Prefiero el anterior, Siamese Dream. Con un disco de Billy entre los 1000 es suficiente. Hubo discos mejores y más divertidos ese 95. P J HARVEY: To Bring You My Love, TRICKY: Maxinquaye, OASIS (What's The Story) Morning Glory, TINDERSTICKS: The Second Album, BJÖRK: Post, PULP: Different Class, SUPERGRASS: I Should Coco, GARBAGE: Garbage, THE JAYHAWKS - Tomorrow the green grass, TEENAGE FANCLUB: Grand Prix, RADIOHEAD: The Bends, BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN: The Ghost Of Tom Joad, ELASTICA: Elastica, D’ANGELO: Brown Sugar, WILCO: A M, SPIRITUALIZED: Pure Phase, YO LA TENGO: Electr-O-Pura, Slowdive (‘Pygmalion’), GUIDED BY VOICES- Alien lanes También: THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS: Exit Planet Dust, GOLDIE: Timeless, FOO FIGHTERS: Foo Fighters, BLACK GRAPE: It’s Great When You Are Straight Yeah PAVEMENT: Wowee Zowee , SPAIN: The Blue Moods Of Spain THE AMPS: Pacer, THE PRESIDENTS OF U.S.A. - The Presidents of U.S.A., PAUL WELLER - Stanley road, BEN FOLDS FIVE - Ben Folds Five, SONIC YOUTH - Washing machine, NEIL YOUNG & PEARL JAM - Mirror ball, MATTHEW SWEET - 100% Fun, LUNA - Penthouse, CHRIS ISAAK- Forever Blue, Throwing Muses- University, Supersuckers- The Sacrilicious Sounds of the Supersuckers, Superchunk -Here’s Where the Strings Come In, Annie Lennox- Medusa, Jamiroquai-The Return of the Space Cowboy, THE VERVE- A northern soul, THE MAGNETIC FIELDS- Get lost, U2 (Passengers)- Original soundtracks 1, Prince - The Gold Experience, NO DOUBT- Tragic Kingdom.
Billy Corgan's angst filled epic, a favourite of teenagers for good reason. The lyrics do push it at times for me but the song writing is strong enough that I get over them pretty easily. I do find it slightly front-loaded though preferring the first disc overall, but the second disc still does have the all timer 1979 on it.
Very diverse (and long) album. Lots of chill songs, but also some screeching ones. Overall I liked it, especially the softer songs.
Eipä tässä kuin ehkä kaksi rallia itselle ollut.
Decent album. A lot of great songs, but it’s too long and after a while many of the songs begin to meld together and it starts feeling like a chore to get through the whole thing.
Another album that is perhaps not really great across its whole double album length but it’s high moments are very good.
I don't know who that is, but nobody deserves infinite sadness.
This album appears to be suffered from a bad case of billycorganitus.
The answer to the question: "How many songs can we fit on a record, and really not get away with it?". I rarely find double (or in this case triple) albums worthwhile - in most cases they're released after the peak of an artist's career when their creative shackles are loosened and allowed to do whatever they want. If Billy Corgan had skimmed this down to the best 10/12 songs, this would be a belter of an album, but in this format, I can only imagine die-hard pumpkins fans enjoying the whole thing. Best Tracks: - 1979 - Zero Worst Tracks: - XYU - We Only Come Out At Night Rating: 3/10
A classic from start to finish.
1. Billy Corgan seems like a dickhead 2. Billy Corgan has a very annoying vocal style 3. I cannot deny there were some bangers on here 4. It was way too long
One of the best records of all time.
4/5
Lemppari: Thru The Eyes Of Ruby Vähiten lemppari: Muzzle
Gish, Siamese Dream, and Pisces Iscariot are all far superior albums. Listening again reminded of why I sold this one long ago even though I love Smashing Pumpkins. 1979 and Tonight, Tonight are the only tracks worth saving off this album.
An old favorite
Yet another double album that does not earn its runtime. A lot of the songs are overly long as well, further dragging on what is a rather boring collection of songs. The saving grace is that a small handful of songs are actually worth listening to, else this would've been an easy 1 star rating.
Pretty good, but you could have cut half the songs and had an album that was better
Love is suicide.
A lot of the songs are good, but towards the end they obviously ran out of inspiration. The album would have been better if it was at least an hour shorter. It has more variation than their other album on the list. More dynamic. The singing is not as annoying all of the time. Favorite song: bullet with butterfly wings.
Alotta sounds on this one. I've never been a huge pumpkin guy, this has not changed that. I've once heard this album called one of the greatest double albums of all time. That guy was an idiot.
So my cousin was OBSESSED with Smashing Pumpkins when they came out so I feel like I was intimately aware that this album existed and of the hits, but not necessarily the rest of it. Being into alternative music and not living far from Chicago helped build upon my knowledge of this album (because you can't be familiar with Chicago music and not know Billy Corrigan). So he is pretentious and full of himself, but this album helped to back it up. Is it perfect, no? But it was something different at the time and really filled a void for alt rockers that were more emo and not so grungy and tough. It was someone being really vulnerable about tough things and mental health struggles. Sometimes he is yelling, sometimes he is sad, and a few times he is almost happy.
There's so many good songs on this double album. It took me a few days to get through this. So many hits like Tonight Tonight, Zero (one of the best rock songs ever), Bullet w Butterfly Wings, Thirty Three, 1979. These are all great songs but there's more... Other awesome rockers: Jellybelly, Muzzle, Love, Bodies, XYU. And balancing all that with slower gentle tunes: To Forgive, Galapogos, In the Arms of Sleep, Stumbleine, By Starlight. Then you have a couple charming little songs that I can't even put in a box: Cupid De Locke, We Only Come Out at Night, Lily. The pianoriffic title track makes a perfect intro to Tonight, Tonight. The Pumpkins take their songwriting in all kinds of directions and really spread their wings on this one. Great double album that you can listen to over and over again. This is kind of a masterpiece.
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness is the most listened to album of my life. What makes this album as a whole a top tier, all time great is NOT that every song is a perfect piece of art, because they are definitely not, but that it is an utterly unique, immersive world (and high water mark of 90’s culture) meant to get your broken teenage heart completely lost and saved in. There are so many emotions being thrown around that it can be mind-boggling, and the intent is to feel absolutely everything to the fullest, as teenagers do…the glorious, the hopeful, the rage, the mundane, the ugly, the redemption. Just dive in anywhere: “Thirty-Three” showcases a perfect earnest heartfelt awkwardness; Discover the epic emotional journeys of “Thru The Eyes Of Ruby” and “Porcelina of the Vast Oceans”; Head over to mid and late album heartbreakers “Galapagos” and “By Starlight” to weep your sensitive heart out; Feel eternal youth in rock star anthem “Muzzle”. Go back to the near beginning of each disc and wallow in the gnarly, bitter anger of neo-metal “Zero” and “Bodies”; Somewhere in the middle is the dreamy, psychedelic art piece named “Cupid De Locke” and the sentimental and earnestly romantic “In The Arms if Sleep”. Do you really want to feel your fucking explosive (implosive?) anger and hatred towards a person who totally screwed you over? Then “X.Y.U.” will finish off their heart and soul, and yours while it’s at it. All of this only scratches the surface. After decades of listening, it never really gets old. This world is too large, open, and wonderful to get over quickly. As I mentioned earlier, there is some shit on this album. If I could saw off the ridiculously annoying electro-clash song “Love” and the muddy, go-nowhere metal of “Tales of a Scorched Earth”, I would in a heartbeat. The latter follows the perfect pop gem “1979”, which makes its presence even more unforgivable. Neither half-baked song has ever been worthy of anything to me. Near the end of this entire journey, “Lily (My One and Only)” ends up seeming like an unnecessary oddity for oddity’s sake. Following the definitive 90’s rage baiter, and still perfect statement on entrapment, “Bullet With Butterfly Wings”, comes the overly moody and plodding “To Forgive”; And finally, I don’t consider “Where Boys Fear to Tread” and “Farewell and Goodnight” to be garbage, but just a couple of mediocre wastes of time…but that’s just me. Billy Corgan went all in here and succeeded beyond his wildest dreams. The bad songs mentioned here don’t bring this down, they just add to the color and shape of it all…a messy, imperfect body of work that is perfect because it is messy and imperfect. I gush over Siamese Dream because there are no mistakes there. It’s a God-like album to aspire to. This album is just as perfect because it is life, as it goes. I listen to this album in full 30 years on and weep for my youth, lost to time, forever enshrined in this music.
Today I learned he's still "just a rat in a cage," NOT "just a-ready to cage." Anyway, from the softest love songs to the absolute ragers, this album rocks so hard. The guitars and drums are just incredible, and the lyrics are so well written and impassioned. Tonight, Tonight always gives me the chills and the weepies. Galapogos and Starlight are my favorite "new to me" songs. And I’d probably add Muzzle in there too. I also totally adore Thirty-Three, and 1979 is just so awesome and classic. And then the total bangers like X.Y.U. and Tales of a Scorched Earth are so headbangingly satisfying. There really are so many great tracks on here. Every song is special in its own way, and it almost doesn't feel right to only call out a few of them. I love the mix of emotions throughout...the album is filled with sadness and rage and love and longing, and it all blends together so well in this delightfully tasty Pumpkin soup. Sure, it's REALLY long, but I'll forgive it that sin because of its general epic-ness. He's got a lot of feelings to get out. But please say a few Hails Marys and an Our Father, Billy. We have a lot of albums to get through here, and this is a catch-up day for me!
Back-to-back excellent albums. A bit long and eclectic but overall very good. High 4*
Love love love. Made me want to get ready for my 90’s American high school prom after party.
I like a few songs but their sound not for me. I remember seeing them in concert in a small venue and thought my eardrums would burst. Never forgave em for it haha
Wavering between raw drum & guitar driven rock and dreamy ballads, there's more than enough variety and nostalgia to keep my little alt heart aflutter.
Amazing songs but way too long.
Well, this was a ride, all over the place in a good way. Listen to it with a break in between, otherwise it is way too long... Took me a while to get used to the voice, but it clicked after a while... All in all, great album.
makes me wonder if I can name “rock” or “alternative” when asked about my favourite music because they are declared to be both and they are both but I didn’t like it and it’s too rocky for me but I thought I liked rock but this sometimes just appears to be noise to me and now I have to be strict again but I don’t wanna be strict I wanna find true love here but it’s hard and also I have to admit that I didn’t even make it through I just listened to half because it’s so long and now Giorgia’s gonna be mad at me for being strict again and I so wanted to like it because i liked the artwork and now i wonder if I actually like rock or just nice artworks please forgive me dear pumpkins but not for me 2,5/5 🎃
make! shorter! albums! pls! it took me two days to finish it (and what about the deluxe version with 92 tracks??) ((the cover art is really good tho)) 2/5 🪐
Something like 14 of the 28 tracks here are absolute heaters, which is an unreal hit rate for a double album, especially one from the mid-90s. Another 6-8 are good but not great. That the album mostly justifies its 2 hour run time is a miracle the likes of which we will probably never see again. I think, in my heart, this is probably a 4.5/5. I don't think it's quite good enough to give it the benefit of the doubt 5/5 here, though the presence of a handful of all-time bangers tempts me.
A little too long but so so good
much longer than it should be, but hard to deny the merits of the work in its best moments
Pour un genre que je trip pas super gros dessus, c’est pas mal un album grunge de qualité, malgré sa longueur démesurée (2 heures! C’est plus long que Clic! avec Adam Sandlers!). Pour ça, léger 4, genre à un poil d’être un 3
What a great album, lots of memories tied to this one
Some decent guitar but the frontman really really cant sing
The widely marketed edginess of commercial grunge was privilege under paper-thin wrapping and two hours of The Smashing Pumpkins have finally given me the definitive archetype, a long grey yawn and whine that I’ve long-known but never had a name to put against. Awful, the point earned by the hilarious little guitar squeals cancelled by Corgan’s hard-earned position as the most cringeworthy rock icon of what has now become the most cringeworthy generation: my own. Well done, Billy! Please stop!
I doubt I have ever sat through all of this before, despite enjoying an occasional cheeky listen to "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" when it comes on the radio. Seems like I wasn't missing much, some half-decent tunes but buried in dull metal-adjacent riffing and overblown orchestration and WAY TOO LONG. If this was the grunge White Album I'm a bit sad for the generation that grew up with it; it's all a bit silly really. I'll be mean
I really enjoyed it but it's very long, I might revisit and update rating.
A perfect combination of whimsy meloncholic melodies and angsty grunge riffs. Its honestly crazy how many of their hits are on this album and how many of those hits are mega hits and not just one off hits. Only caveat is that its super fucking long. Like 28 songs with some of them being nearly 10 minutes long. 9/10
Had some absolute bangers and some absolute ear violators, but I appreciated the genre blending nonetheless.
A lot of good songs, that were surrounded surrounded by mediocre filler. Not bad though. 7/10
Lots of unnecessary tracks with amazing highlights. Could have been a 5 and a full hour shorter
It was pretty good
Would have been a 2 if they would have cut the fat and released only 1 disc.
By their third studio album release the Pumpkins had already mastered the 4 piece rock sounds as shown on Siamese Dream, Billy Corgan began to write and boy he wrote more songs than necessary for a single CD, and while using the foundations already laid on previous material he grew more confident on the band habilities to record their instruments(previous endeavours were mostly recorded by Billy and the drummer Jimmy Chamberlain), or just by need, the band had to record their parts for this album, Jellybelly is a live cut made by the band performing in the studio. Tonight, Tonight brought back the stripped down acoustic vibes from Disarm, but instead of looking inwards while lamenting of broken childhood issues, was looking head on to the here and now with an full fledged orchestra. This isnt a flawless album, there are some misses like the ending of Dawn to Dusk(the first disk CD), Take Me Down the song written by James Iha. Love, Cupid de Love, 1979 and Beautiful are a bridge to what the band did on the following album(Adore). Dawn to Dusk 4.5/5 The second disc starts rocking with Where Boys Fear To Thread into Bodies Man, what a song 1979 is and why the fuck is Tales Of A Scorched Earth next to it XYU damn Billy you're going to blow your voice with that scream, by the end of Twilight to Starlight the band runs out of rockers and it feels like they shove the ballads together to end the album. Farewell and Goodbye is a nice closer that brings the project together with the callback to the intrumental intro of the title track Twilight to Starlight 3.5/5, so in total its an 8/10, most likely Ill just listen to the first CD, but if I do that then I miss the great start of the second CD and XYU Funny bit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX5zXdDr6Hg
If you asked me yesterday if I liked this album I would’ve said yes, absolutely; but to be honest I probably haven’t listened to this album in full since high school— 25 years ago. So it was good to be reacquainted with fond memories of the past. Anyway it’s intense and beautiful and Billy makes the best of what is not the world’s most pleasant voice.
I thought it only ehh when it was released still kind of feel that way.
Elder millenialcore
It is very long but it has a lot of variety and it's moody and immature. I had a good time despite not remembering much.
I was worried this would hold up worse than I remember it, despite listening to it in its entirety at least once a year. It holds up and maybe it just gets better every time. I do remember the first time I heard Smashing Pumpkins (it was either Gish or Siamese Dream) and I remember thinking who the hell could listen to Billy Corgan's voice for more than 5 minutes. I powered through it and now I can't imagine another singer fronting the band. It isn't a regular voice, but like Ghedi Lee for Rush it's unique and it works. The actual content is beyond reproach. It's the classic 90's quartet supplemented tastefully with keys and the occasional sound effects (the rocket launcher from Doom in Where Boys Fear To Tread, just perfect) that doesn't miss. It isn't too much, and it very much isn't too little. Sure, maybe the lyrics can be nonsensical or just about being sad or angsty, but everyone had those feelings when they were younger and that's who this album is for. There's ballads, there's heavy riffs, there's complicated instrumental layering, there's everything. I used to have a preference for the second disc because heavy songs were just a bit heavier, but I like the whole thing now and the first disc has plenty of big songs too (Jellybelly, Zero, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, An Ode to No One, etc). There are maybe 3 or 4 songs that I like less than others (We Only Come Out at Night, ah yes, the days surely are much too bright) but otherwise this is mostly a no skip, and for 28 songs that's impressive. Probably a big nostalgia hit but I love this album and it's one of the few double albums that I think is worth the listen in it's entirety. A classic.
A heavy nostalgia hit for me. Big time middle school vibes. I definitely favored the first disc, and after yesterday's 2 hour listen that opinion is still valid. The variety of song styles is incredible and Corbin's whiney, nasally high-pitched voice that would be a detriment in any other situation fits the mood. Maybe he's the Bob Dylan of my generation. This angsty walk down memory lane deserves a 5/5
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I have never once intentionally listened to this album but I know most of the songs.
The Smashing Pumpkins have been known to me by name as an alternative hard rock band for quite some time. I'm not sure if I've ever heard a song by them. I certainly didn't know this album. There were a lot of good ideas on it. However, none of the songs really stuck in my memory enough to make me want to listen to them again. But maybe I'll have to give the album a second chance. 3/5
first album had a few songs that were nice. meh overall. not my thing
It is not quite a two star but il never listen to it gain. Pretty tight, some good melodies and song writing here and there, but the songs got me zoning out and focusing on all other stuff than the music
Zero is fucking excellent. So is Bullet etc as well.
I like the Smashing Pumpkins, but listening to a full album run of Billy Corgan vocals drains me.
Despite how foundational this album was to alternative rock, I've actually never listened to the album. Holy crap is it long. I appreciate how many different sounds they've fit into it, but it overstays its welcome.
It’s okay, but I missed the banger hits on that album. All in all okay but I need more than just 2 hours of music.
Album ran out of steam. It definitely did not need to be a double album. Would have been a 4 otherwise
Infinitely too long. Needed so many edits.
infinite is right
This is the sound of Billy Corgan being handed the keys to the studio, the universe, and probably a mirror he never stopped gazing into. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness is not so much an album as it is a sprawling monument to self-indulgence. Across two discs and 28 tracks, Corgan tries to be everything at once—angry teen prophet, fragile poet, guitar god, misunderstood genius—and ends up being mostly exhausting. There are a few good songs scattered in the mess (1979, Tonight, Tonight), but you have to wade through a lot of overblown, melodramatic sludge to find them. Corgan’s voice, never the band’s strongest asset, is everywhere—whining, whispering, shouting, often in the same song—and it wears thin fast. There’s no editor in sight, and no one seemed willing to tell him that maybe not every idea needed to be a track. The album jumps from orchestral ballads to punishing riff-fests like a teenager flipping through outfits before a prom they didn’t want to go to in the first place. It’s ambitious, sure, but ambition without focus turns into bloat. For all the grandeur, the emotion feels more performative than profound. It wants desperately to be important, to be the statement of a generation, but the result is something closer to an endless diary entry—loud, overwrought, and full of feelings, but ultimately lacking clarity. A shorter, sharper album might’ve been great. This, instead, is Billy Corgan’s endless guitar solo of a personality on double vinyl.
boring as fuck and way too long
Pretty good album. I've heard songs from it, but not the whole thing
an absolute classic, wild I had never listened to this full album.
I think I agree with Robert Christgau on this one: Lot of ambition on this record, but it only really comes together on a few songs. Tonight Tonight and 1979 are by far the best singles. Galapagos and Muzzle are stand-out album tracks. The lyrics (when easily discernable) are lacking as compared to the music, and some of the music is *very* much "of its time", meaning for me it sounds a lot less fresh and unique than it may have in 1996. I'm sure I listened to this album on repeat in college, but it definitely left less of an impression on me than other albums from the time. Also, some of the songs (and their titles) remain cringey to me 30+ years later.
Surprisingly good! I avoided this album for years thinking I didn't like it for whatever reason, but on this listen I really appreciated it. Only slightly too long. Really kept my attention.
Overblown production. All the amazing bits of Siamese Dream that were dialled up to 11, but with little light and shade, just bombast. A tiring listen.
I don't know if I have the ability to get into this kind of music right now. I need something more chill and tender.
I already knew that I liked a few songs from this album, primarily 1979. Overall, I'm not a big fan of the sound of the vocalist. I can definitely see how it influenced artists that followed and it's an interesting inflection point between punk/grunge into emo, post punk, and alternative rock. I probably can't give it a fair evaluation since I don't enjoy their specific sound. I can't say whether the album had much of a flow to it either, since I kept getting interrupted while listening to it at work. 2 out of 5 stars, I get it, but it ain't for me.
Judged The Smashing Pumpkins unfairly before this. By no means will I be searching this out to listen again, but whereas before I thought I actively disliked pretty much every TSP song, this has a couple of bangers.
Great but drags on
Long but exceptional at every turn
I never really got into the Smashing Pumkins. I tried back in the day. I even bought Siamese Dream, but really couldn’t do it. The music on this record is actually really good. It’s Billy Corgan’s voice that just pushes me away. I get into a song, then he starts singing.
4.5
Damn. One of my all-time favorites. It’s in my top 100 all-time. I don’t skip any song, but if I did, it would be on the 2nd disc - Disc 1 is 100% 🔥. Jimmy Chamberlain should be in the discussion for top 25 drummers ever. It was never the same without the rhythm section of both Jimmy and D’Arcy. But for this one - Easy 5 ⭐️
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (Instrumental) 3.3 Tonight, Tonight 3.8 Jellybelly 3.8 Zero 4 Here Is No Why 3.5 Bullet with Butterfly Wings 4 To Forgive 3.4 Fuck You (An Ode to No One) 3.5 Love 3.2 Cupid de Locke 3 Galapogos 3.1 Muzzle 3.3 Porcelina of the Vast Oceans 3.3 Take Me Down 3 Where Boys Fear to Tread 3.4 Bodies 3.4 Thirty-Three 3.1 In the Arms of Sleep 2.8 1979 3.7 Tales of a Scorched Earth 3 Thru the Eyes of Ruby 3.5 Stumbleine 3.2 X.Y.U. 3.6 We Only Come Out at Night 3 Beautiful 3.2 Lily (My One and Only) 3 By Starlight 3.3 Farewell and Goodnight 3 Score: 3.335714286
I didn't like the first few songs, but that's usual for me, and it was also an inclination of closedmindedness. I wasn't a fan of the guy's voice, but it grew on me eventually. As the album went on, I really liked a lot of the songs and took note of some. Near the end, I decided that I need to listen to this album again in the future because I know I will appreciate it a lot more during the second listen. Overall 7/10
Listened roughly half, maybe got something
4 estrelas pela diversidade de estilos , pela produtividade da banda, 3 ou 4 hits ...uma música bem bonita ("Tonight, tonight")...tirei uma estrela por causa do timbre de "pedaleira" das guitarras, característico das bandas dos anos 90 :-(
If this 2 hour cd was edited down to 1, it could be an easy 5 in my book. There are so many great songs. But at my advanced age- 2 hours of Billy Corgan singing is an assault on the senses. And some of the songs seem a little fillerish to me. On the flip side, nobody made me listen to it for two straight hours. When an album has 25 minutes of great stuff and 20 minutes of filler it is easy to lose a star -but it doesn't seem fair to dock a star when the artist gave well over 60 minutes of great music to a release.
I’ve enjoyed some of the hits since my younger years — metal rage Butterfly — and while much of the double album is merely fine, its status as a defining moment (with some good tunes) carries it.
So many hits
This is a great album. But I don't think we needed a double. There is 1 classic album's worth of stuff here. This revisit revealed that I had not paid enough attention to Muzzle in years past.
Who knew that Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness would be such a banger of an album. This album is very long clocking in at more than 2 hours which would be something i had a problem with but when the album is 2 hours of some of the greatest grunge music i have ever heard, i don't have any problem with it. The songs consisted of nonstop amazing guitar riffs, vocals that were a bit weird at first but still managed to fit the songs really well and that i eventually really started to like and enough quirkiness to give the album even more charm without getting annoying. The fact that this album is 2 hours long and every single song managed to be so great easily makes this one of my favorite albums i have done for this project. Best Song: Bodies Worst Song: Take Me Down
Nunca tinha ouvido um album completo deles, já tinha ouvido algumas músicas separadas por aí, que gostei. Com esse album é a mesma coisa, nem tudo me atraiu, mas gostei muito de algumas, das 28 acho que favoritei 6 que gostei mesmo. Tem várias pegadas no mesmo album, no geral, um album bom, ouvi o disco 1 e 2.
a bit of a long album, but my problem is how bad some of the angsty lyrics are. Still, I like a good sprawling album, and the idea of the contrast of the heavy and pretty moments. The latter are gorgeous, and some of the heaviest songs rock. XYU???
Not bad, nostalgia of a wannabe punk preteen !
LOVE
Very dramatic sometimes with sweeping arraignments, sometimes straight up rock gems. corgans vocals are not great, but certainly unique? If you want a 90’s rock album, it’s a great one even if it seems to have leaned heavily into its own importance.
Love this one.
This was way too long. I never heard much of The Smashing Pumpkins, and after this album, I don't regret it—nothing there for me.
Bursting with creativity, it’s no wonder these luscious tracks could not be limited to a single disc. I loved this beauty.
classic
This one caught me off guard. I did not expect to enjoy it as much as I have, and I listened to it three times to be sure. The sonic variety, the song arrangements, the range of lyrical themes are all great. But what took it another level is how it stirs up a sense of nostalgia even when I didn’t grow up with this.
Probably the best and most well-paced long album I’ve heard.
Not my kind of stuff
Just a solid album tbf
The platonic ideal of a 3-star album that could easily by 5-star if it was half the length (or maybe 30% of the length considering how many of the longer song drag). Some of the best songs of Billy Corgan’s career, and all time frankly, mixed in with a lot of forgettable half-formed ideas.
how have i not listened to this album sooner, its exactly my taste both indie rock and metal vibes
Over 2 hours… This could be a 4 star album if you cut out half. Alternating between pretty good songs and senseless (to me) screaming or whispering. 2.5 starts. Benefit of the doubt 3 stars for now.
Awesome album. It's too long, that's true, but it's still ace.
Not my cup of tea
A mix of bangers and slow stuff.
OK, a few things to cover off on this one To start with, I really dislike the lead singer's voice. It's so whiny and off-putting. The instruments are quite good though Next, this album does have a fairly consistent mood/tone, but it jumps all over the place genre-wise. One song is a piano backed pop song, the next is heavy metal, then we hit grunge, and on and on. It's impressive that they can write songs that are good and so different sounding, but it makes the experience worse for me as a listener I think if this 2 hour (!) album had been split into 3 albums, each grouped by genre, I would have enjoyed it a lot more. As it is, it's far too long and self-indulgent
5 stars for nostalgia, some great tracks, and a few i will always skip, but the amount of and quality of the good songs far exceeds the lesser ones. One of the greatest double albums.
love the smashing pumpkins. this album just made me love them more. i like how well crafted this album is and has some actual bangers. some people hate corgans voice but i love it sm. another 5/5 album.
Only made it through Disc 1. Obviously, I grew up hearing a lot of this on the radio, but their music has never really done much for me. Album Cover: 8/10
zeitgeist of the 1990s (yet timeless) - questioning norms, skepticism toward mainstream society and longing for meaning range - melodic ballads to heavy rock
4/5
First listened in High School, got me through some angst for sure. Still a classic. It’s no Siamese Dream, but it’s a great ridiculous mess with so many classic Pumpkins tracks. I’ve got the box set on vinyl and it’s one of the best purchases I’ve ever made.
Too damn long.
Despite having listened to Siamese Dream a good few times in my life I'm surprised at myself for not having listened to this album yet. The 2hr runtime does leave it to be a fairly daunting listen but once you hear 'Tonight Tonight' it's clear to be worth the full experience. Instrumentation is far more present here with strings aplenty, however the 'grungy' style they are known for is still present on tracks such as 'Zero', 'Jellybelly' and 'Bullet with Butterfly Wings'. The edge that this album provides over previous albums such as Siamese Dream, Gish and Pisces Iscariot is certainly its stronger chord progression. The Smashing Pumpkins of the past would have been unable to have made a track such as '1979' or 'Tonight, Tonight', or be able to blend the tranquility with the grunge sound on tracks like 'Here is No Why'. I would also add to anyone who liked the album to give B-side track 'Pennies' a go as for me its one of the best tracks of this SP era. I will say the second half of this LP has weaker tracks which at times leaves me thinking this could be a single LP. But the length is justified due to the concept, this album has been called the 90s iteration of 'The Wall' and as such i'll judge the weaker tracks to their commitment to the concept overall as opposed to a track per track basis. Incredible album 9.5/10. Top Tracks -> Tonight, Tonight -> Zero -> Here Is No Why -> Bullet With Butterfly Wings -> To Forgive -> Cupid De Locke -> Galapagos -> 1979 -> Thru The Eyes of Ruby -> Stumbleine -> By Starlight
Overblown and predictable. The moment when the crunchy guitar will enter was always too obviously signposted. Some nice moments but ponderously paced, much prefer Siamese dream.
Loved the sound, not all were hits but there was enough in there that I really enjoyed. The kind of nasally singing voice was a vibe and the songs were varied enough to provide good variety. Though with an album this long, you'd hope so lol. 3.5/5 stars.
Great album, insane range, from melodic to heavy metal. Long listen (over 2 hours) but an experience to enjoy.
Really unexpected - felt like it switched genres 10 times during the album. Enjoyed overall
Great album, awesome range of songs felt and really complete. I did feel some of the songs were in styles that have been done better now and because of that I wasn't particularly a fan of them, specifically some of the more punk songs in the beginning of the album. Overall a really great, cohesive album and being as long as it was didn't hurt it too much for me. My favorite song was 1979.
Good songs but the singers voice bothers me haha
First of all the album title is hilarious. I enjoyed this one. I liked the more hard rock songs even if some of them were quite similar. I enjoyed disc 1 more than two. Would have liked it better if it was more compact. 6.5/10
Kinda felt cheated out of a really good album. All the songs were recorded really muted. Now I know that could be because it’s old. Maybe the restoration wasn’t great. I dunno. The muted sound of the whole album caused a really annoying itch in the back of my head right behind my ears and that never got scratched. And that was kinda maddening. Otherwise I thought it was fine. Never listened to Smashing Punkins before.
mellon collie and the infinite album not really my speed but it's not bad. I like the less noisy songs (1979 & a lot of the last half of disc 2). Also releasing a 2 hour album is an insane flex and I respect it 3.5 stars
I've never been a big Smashing Pumpkins fan because I don't like their sound. Hearing them in album form actually elevated then a little bit because it helped me appreciate some of the depth in what they're doing. But I still don't enjoy their sound.
Ничего хорошего
The first double disc I ever listened to and then owned. Before that I never realized a band could release something spanning more than a single CD. The surprise song I liked a lot back then and still do is/was Galapagos. Listening to the album now though, I think the album is a little long in the tooth and why I prefer Siamese Dream over this one nowadays.
Yep, nothing that great on this album. It gets 2 stars for at least being a somewhat decent album. Wouldn't listen to it again though.
Some bangers
great album 1979 favorite song
One of the heaviest hitters of the 90s grunge rock era. I get the feeling that a lot of bands were just trying to rip off nirvana but the pumpkins had a lot more flair for the dramatic and really making some over the top songs. I don’t think they’re better than Nirvana but they put some distance between them in their style and form a bit of their own lane while a lot of other bands were just blending in.
Why have I not purchased this album yet?
I enjoyed this, I did feel the album was a bit too long though.
Максимально уникальный альтернативный рок. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness - одно из лучших малоизвестных творений в иностранном роке, что я когда либо слышал. Это максимальное смешение рок жанров, невероятно классный подбор песен на альбоме (кроме 1979 на б-сайде :( ) и завораживающий вокал и инструментал. The Smashing Pumpkins для меня мультижанровая рок группа, ведь точно определить ее жанр по этому альбому достаточно сложно. Будто открываешь энциклопедию рока 90-х и наблюдаешь за ее главными творениями. Так, например, на 7 треке перед нами показаны спокойные TSP, которых я больше всего люблю слушать, затем на 8 треке звучание становится громким, напоминающим гранж со своими ревущими гитарами, далее на 9 треке звучание группы напоминает песню blur - bugman, которую британцы придумают только в 1999 году на альбоме 13, а на 10 треке играет уже что то похожее на спокойное инди нулевых по типу coldplay или the strokes. Естественными фаворитами я считаю легендарнейшую 1979, Love со своим крутейшим припевом, и меланхоличную Cupid De Locke, но я уверен, что со временем я полюблю весь альбом, ведь его очень интересно слушать, вслушиваясь в каждую песню как в отдельный жанр и даже эпоху. Отличительной чертой TSP можно лишь назвать спокойную гитару с множеством бэндов и невероятный протяжно ноющий вокал. Просто обожаю эту группу. Мультироковые 5/5.
I must say. I am quite impressed. I mean holy cow. A 2 hour double LP is certainly something to get through to say the least, but somehow this album managed to remain unique, entertaining, and quite varied through its entirety. There were soft sounds, angsty sounds, harsh sounds, experimental sounds, solemn sounds, playful sounds, and so many more sounds. And it made every second of the 7200 second album a really great experience. I would almost say the albums immense length is one of its biggest strengths in way because it meant the goodness of the album could last even longer. This is certainly an album I want to return to but I don’t know how much I realistically can because it is the length of a frickin movie lol. It certainly has the entertainment value of a movie though. I acknowledge this album is probably far from perfect and I wasn't able to fully process it because I could only listen once but I honestly think this album deserves a 5 just for being fully entertaining for 2 hours.
na moral, o que o careca maluco mandou nesse é absurdo não é um siamese dream, mas é completamente bom. do início ao fim.
o gerador tá muito simpático essa semana. estou com medo mto tempo que nao ouvia esse inteiro pq né. 2 horas de album. mas é BIZARRO como não tem UMA MUSICA ruim nessa porra vai tomar no cu que delicia. só guitarrada bruta e derivados. lindíssimo. eu morreria por 1979 inclusive ô musicão do inferno
This CD was practically melted to my CD player when it came out I played it so much, but I haven't listened to it much in a long, long time. And honestly, it doesn't quite hold up. Sounds very dated and so many songs feel are forgettable. Probably could have been a much tighter single disc album rather than a double. The songs that resonated with me most were the mellow ones especially towards the end of disc 2. "Lily," "By Starlight," and "Fairwell and Goodnight," the last 3 songs, were my favorites in addition to "1979."
kinda some good songs, but really long, not too cohesive, and sound quality not to my liking
Wasn't going to listen to over 5 hours. Epic I know but too much, unless you are into them and I am not. 40 mins was enough
One of the best ever?
Good songs but tooooooo lonnnnnng
Fitting title for my first day back at work after parental leave. A few properly great songs (1979, Tonight Tonight). A lot that is not for me though. Just too pompous, earnest and overlong, all while lacking wit or humour. An Ode To No One? Hmmm.
Would have been a 5 if it weren’t so damn long
Good stuff from the SP but not my favourite album from them
Sheer brilliance Rock with resilience Not a minute too long Riffs coming in strong Introduced by Michiel An album that makes me feel Alive and kicking Rather than through playlists flicking
I've never been into Smashing Pumpkins. It's all a bit samey really. Apart from 1979, Tonight Tonight etc. But can't deny how huge an album it was at the time. Too long also.
X.Y.U. // Lily //
unnecesarily long not that much into rock, liked the first track and the others were kind of bothering, sorry. only ones worth saving are the first and two last ones. very disappointed 1/10
mid
Always found Billy Corgen intolerable. Going to be impossible to sit through a double albums worth of him... I CAN"T DO IT ANYMORE
No
There is 1 good record here but not 2. Too much bloated filler.
I think it still holds up, maybe I appreciate it even a little more now. I still think he writes mostly bad lyrics though.
Great for a teenager. I’ve moved on from the pumpkins, but still some good stuff
Classic at double the fun.
The favourite album of that one guy you always bump into parties but don't really want to be friends with.
was prettyyy good :D
Impossible to listen to in one sitting seemingly lol, but I never once thought “why isn’t this over yet?” Which is a classic tell tale for me with long albums. I enjoyed the whole thing.
i was hoping today to listen to an excruciating 2 hours of a man doing a parody of singing! you really gotta hand it to billy for being that rare combination of insufferable prick and talentless hack! at least if you drop the "mellon collie" bit the album would have an accurate name!
As a Smashing Pumpkins fan, I was ready to listen with a critical ear after not having listened to this in decades and taking into account that it's 2 hours long. But now, can we be honest? There isn't a bad song far and wide. This whole album SLAPS and every hour is great. It just works as a double album and Billy is a genius. No other opinions will be tolerated or accepted.
My god it's two hours. 3.
Great album. Nice to hear it again, it's been a while. Lots of variety too.
i think a step backwards from siamese dream. great guitar work but the songs aren't as good
Is he purposely trying to sing in the worst voice ever heard? Is this two hours of torture satire?
I didn’t really like it. I couldn’t understand any of what the singer was saying and I can’t really relate to any of the songs.
I remember when this album was all the rage. It absolutely has an ethereal quality but unfortunately I didn’t get through all of it
a 90s alt classic!
i think the fuck not
Although I like some songs more than others, I always listen to Mellon Collie from the very beginning to the very end. Its sneaky, spooky sparkle hinges on the interdependency of its parts. The albumiest album, as such.
I like the songs where he sings, but the screechy metal stuff is just not for me. Respect the craft of it but find it unpleasant.
Tonight, tonight and a couple others are mesmerizingly good, unique songs. There are just so many that go too hard for me.
my dad bought me this cd the day it came out when we were on a trip to chicago. i never turned it off. 1000 stars. 30 years in and still in awe every time I listen to this album.
I’ve never been too into Smashing Pumpkins but I do enjoy a few of their songs a lot. This album definitely feels the length by the end but it’s solid for so much of the duration that I’m ultimately feeling a solid 8. Favorite Songs: Tonight, Tonight / 1979
The Smashing Pumpkins hold no particular place in my heart. Amongst the alt-rock acts of the 90s, they rank towards the top, but the gulf between my favorites and everyone else is incredibly large. As such, I similarly find no particular love for this album. It exudes Gen-X to such an extreme degree, and it just doesn't resonate for me. It's got good songwriting and a cool blend of soft melodicism and harder grunge cuts. I don't love Billy's voice, but any misgivings about it are balanced by an enjoyable sound. As someone who frankly doesn't care for destroying squash of any variety, I don't need 2 hours. If you do, fantastic. Rating: 7/10 Favorite Song: 1979
8/10 First foray into these cats and they were cooking on this one. A bit long but really great stuff here and I’ll definitely be coming back. Favorite song: bullet with butterfly wings
Great album but there's too much filler. If some of the weaker songs were cut it would be a 5 star album.
The quintessential example of Billy Corgan’s smugness and brilliance, Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness is like The White Album. It’s too long for its own good, and for every good song, there’s 2-4 meh-songs. Of course, those “good” songs are actually GREAT songs which helps make up some of the shortcomings.
The couple songs everyone knows are good, but after that it's a bit meloncholy