Reviews (page 9 of 16)
A wild ride
This would have been such a slam dunk 5 with the right mix of half the tracks on a single album IMO. The length really hurts this one. Hard to pull off needle drop double albums. Heavy hitting hits and lots of other great stuff on here. I too, totally forgot about “Thirty-Three”.
This was such an ambitious undertaking for the band at the time. And although there are many songs to like, even outside of the ubiquitous hits…it’s just too long to earn the highest marks. Listening to it 30 years later, Corgan does seem extra whiney and self-indulgent but not enough to bring it down. Now I’m gonna go dust off their debut “Gish.”
Great album and very listenable, especially for how long it is (28 songs and 2 hours!). Love the massive hits (even if they were over played to the point of being ruined) and some excellent songs in between (nice to be reminded of thirty-three). Only thing that hurts my heart is that this came out 30 years ago. Ouch.
The intro song followed by Tonight, Tonight still gets me to this day. Love it. And the following six or so tracks slap hard. But the sad truth is this album is overstuffed and too long. Trimmed down to 14-15 tracks and this is an easy 5* for me. 4.25/5
Kunne langt bedre lide siamese Dream. Havde svært ved at komme igennem de 2 timer her
Pure rock, so good. listened to it on the way back from scheef after a zw windy surf
3.5
one of the best double albums of all-time, obviously the best double album of the 90s. amazing all the way through, sometimes i skip through the 7+ minute songs when i'm listening to this album but they're still quality songs, even the non-album b-sides for the singles are great. beautiful is one of my favorite songs ever. incredible guitar and drums, great lyrics, wonderful production.
This one was long and a bit arduous... but there was so much good stuff in there that it was worth it at the end. The first disc was my fav, personally.
I enjoyed it, but extremely long. Many if songs sounded skmilar
This is one of the first albums that was really important in my life. I’m a bit confused because I was really sure I would be married to Billy Corgan by now, but tomorrow’s another day, you know?
Despite all my rage, this album is still a Dave fave
Zero notes (pun intended)
Billy Cougan is not a pleasant listen.
First and foremost, 28 songs is a lot of song for one album so keeping the quality all the way through was tough to do. I did like the mixture of heavy guitar songs with amazing drums and mellow medium tempo songs. However, the singers voice is not very pleasant to listen too and I really struggled with that. It’s from my high school era and everyone loved the band but still only sort of a middle of the road album with a few great songs on on.
Some of these songs were beautiful and ethereal, others were harsh and scary. Overall, an interesting album with lots of variation.
Mediocre album and the infinite runtime. I've never had a major issue with Smashing Pumpkins, and as a teenager, I actually liked the hits quite a bit. But then I grew up. 1979 is a legit good song. Unfortunately it's surrounded by 2 hours of fluffy whining that doesn't really make a statement.
Corg and crew deliver exactly what they promise: 121 minutes of aptly-named joylessness.
Enjoying many of the songs. They’re indeed sad boy rage but digging it at the moment.
Liked this WAY better than I would have guessed. Lot of stylistic variation. Voice is a little annoying a whole album at a time though.
first half is really really good, second half is kind of lame
OK. Didn't enjoy as much as I thought I would
Great album, gets a little lost in the middle though. Was good to hear it again.
Good songs, so long
Too Long. Took me days to finish.
92/100. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness by The Smashing Pumpkins is an amazing project. With its genre-blending approach and truly fantastic production, the two-hour runtime flies by effortlessly. This album was a truly psychedelic experience for me, with both discs delivering consistently strong material. There’s nothing bad about this record—every track feels purposeful, making it, in my opinion, the band’s best work.
Listened recently enough, and to be honest I don't really want to re-listen. Such a range of stuff on here, you can probably find loads of songs which fit into a completely different niche which the band are know for (take me down). But there are also lots of 'typical' songs on here. Quite a lot I feel could be cut down though, as throughout the second disc it just feels like you are waiting. There are also some terrible metal-type screaming songs which become even more annoying considering his voice. Favourite songs: Jellybelly, zero, bullet with butterfly wings, an ode to no one, porcelina of the vast oceans, take me down, where boys fear to tread, 1979. Overall around 8/10
Some solid songs. Just not one I’d listen to over and over and over.
A ridiculous masterpiece that holds up 30 years after release.
2 timer! Det har bare at være godt! Tror aldrig at jeg har hørt hele albummet fra start til slut før. Tonight gav kuldegysninger, som altid.. Disk 1 er en 5er. Disk 2 har jeg ikke hørt nok... Venter med at rate til den er hørt isoleret. 4er fordi disk 2 er mindre god end 1. Fordi udgivelsen burde være 2 separate, og fordi jeg skippede sange i 2. gennemlytning.
Et mesterværk der formår både at fremtvinge den helt hårde lyd, de følsomme ballader og skabe episk stemning med stryger arrangementer
amazed at how great this sounds for a double album… never a dull moment. Before this I only really listened to most of the first disc and 1979. Glad I sat down and listened to the whole thing.
There's something about the Smashing Pumpkins that I love. I normally don't enjoy the genre but for some reason I really like Billy Corgan's vocals. Did the album need be two hours long? Definitely not. But it's great and as soon as I thought it was getting too noisy/grating there would be a slow song. 7.25/10 (3.625/5)
Love the eclecticness of this album and how Billy and team were peaking with creativity at the time. So many great songs across both albums, but there are a few stinkers mixed in. Gorgeous piano filled mellow intro title track, then you get right into classic 90's alt rock with "Tonight, Tonight", the rockin' "Zero", the mid tempo "Here Is No Why", mega hit "Bullet With Butterfly Wings", the crushing "Love", & "Muzzle" - all that and we're not even to Disc Two yet!! On the flip side, songs like "Cupid De Locke" & "Take Me Down" were unnecessary. Disc Two is equally good and very eclectic with the angry twosome of "Where Boys Fear To Tread & "Bodies", the hit song "Thirty-Three", radio staple "1979", the lovely "Beautiful" and the unique pair of "We Only Come Out At Night" & "Lily (My One And Only)" . But again, there are some throwaway tracks on side two like "Tales Of A Scorched Earth" & the boring "Stumbleine". It's a really good album with hard hard songs, mellow tracks, mid-tempo rockers & lovely piano heavy songs. You get it all. I'd give this a 4+ star rating and it deserves to be on the Top 1001, no one has really done anything like it since.
point2.
Okay, this is 28 tracks long. Let's see how much of Billy Corgan's BS I can slog my way through. ... four and a half tracks before I noped out. I'm not great at separating the art from the artist, so it's genuinely more difficult for me to hear the artistic merit in Smashing Pumpkins music with my extremely low opinion of Billy Corgan as a person. It is a pretty significant part of the 90s music scene, and very influential on later artists in multiple genres. Three stars, I guess?
Jeez 2 hours long, it's fine but length is a deal breaker
It was long. But a couple good songs in there. Plus one star because I’ve listened to it before
I like The Smashing Pumpkins but this is a bit too much. I also weirdly find I have to pay attention when listening ot it does nothing for me. Definitely demands attention. The aesthetic, artwork, videos etc are fantastic
It's fine, probably better than most other albums this site has spit out. But 2 hours? Get a grip. 3
There are definitely some strong songs on this album (Zero, Here Is No Why), and I've always LOVED To Forgive. Of course one of my favorite beers is named after a line in Bullet With Butterfly Wings. But overall, the album is just meh and wears me down by the end. 3/5.
Die Stimme ist so nervig. Ich habe nur Disc 1 gehört, danach abgebrochen, weil ich keine Lust mehr hatte
It's way too long, and I say that while also thinking two slightly longer records (Joanna Newsom's Have One On Me, Cindy Lee's Diamond Jubilee) are among the best ever. But when it hits, wow, there's nothing like it. This is maybe my fourth listen all the way through over the years. Cupid de Locke into Galapagos is a career high. 1979 is obviously amazing too. Tonite Tonite, etc. I could see myself loving this if I were willing to regularly spend this much time with Billy Corgan. More of a 3.5
So good
I thought I'd be giving this a solid three, but an album with 28 songs should have more than 4 bangers. Most of it is pleasant but not memorable. I saw this tour and they only played 16 songs for the show including the encores. That should have been the max number for the album as well.
# 415 : They've done a pretty decent job, it’s a good album, it’s enjoyable and fun overall, but drags out a bit. Everybody loves this, but to me, it is better than ok, but not 5 star material. Favourite track : Bullet With Butterfly Wings
Brilliant. I have said this and you know i've said this!
Mastahpiece!!!
Did not listen to lyrics but musically good
“Scott Pilgrim vs. the World” (the movie) came out at a pretty formative time for me. It was 2010, and I was 17. That movie had such character, such style, and a plot and character arc that really felt relatable to me. I’ve been enamored with it ever since, through my 20’s and into my 30’s. I mention this because I then moved on and read the graphic novels, the first of which is called “Scott Pilgrim and the Infinite Sadness.” I didn’t know then what it was a play on, but obviously it’s on this album’s title. I thought the “SP” on his shirt was meant only to be his initials. Had no idea it was anything else at the time. So, this being adjacent Scott Pilgrim content, I came into curious and somewhat expecting to like it. Keep that in mind. Double albums have been a pet peeve of mine in this project. For one, their length makes it hard to fit in a full listen in one day. But more than that, if it’s a double album you don’t like, well, too bad for you. You’re stuck with it for 90+ minutes. That’s not even accounting for the fact that it feels like so many double albums are strewn with filler and half baked ideas just to fill in the run time. So I came into this with that prejudice. Keep that in mind. But ok, three paragraphs is enough of a preamble. Did I like this album? Yes, actually. More than I thought. It does get a little samey after a while. But the variety of genres present does really help to keep things fresh enough throughout this album’s two hour run time. There’s grunge, some glam type stuff, art rock, even some stuff bordering on (if not fully) metal. This is definitely a magnum opus type of album though. Every single track is incredibly well-produced and thought out; no filler here. Not even a little. I think at times some tracks are perhaps a little too well thought out (they could’ve been shorter), but I’d take that over filler any day. Do I have any idea what this album is about? Not in the slightest. It’s clear Billy Corgan has something to say, and it’s clear that he’s an excellent songwriter. I just couldn’t tell you what these songs are about. Sometimes they’re full of obtuse imagery, sometimes sobering descriptions of emotions, sometimes just straightforward storytelling. But what’s the theme throughout? Is there one? Is it a concept album? The title suggests as much. But I don’t know. In the end, though, I’m here for it. Despite the length. Despite not know what it’s about, I thought this was great. Four stars. There’s something here for most. Standout Tracks: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, Tonight, Tonight, Here is No Why, Bullet with Butterfly Wings, An Ode to No One, 1979, Stumbleine, Lily (My One and Only), Farewell and Goodnight
Starts pretty nicely with that intro and strings, but soon we enter well known territory. Bands like these are make or break with the singer and I can't stand his voice.
meh но трек 1979 это круто
The hits are good
Great album - diverse and interesting. Probably 4.5 really.
2 hours is way to much. Shorten the album and lose the not so good songs and it would be 5 stars.
This is a great album. (So that's how you spell Mellon Collie!!
Good stuff here. I liked it a lot but it didn't gag me. I am between a 3 and a 4 here because it does really get to you, but compared to some other stuff I don't know. Also a bit on the long side with two discs. I'll deduct half a star for that.
It's really long, but honestly, I enjoyed all of it. Some of it was just good memories from my teenage years, but I do think it holds up in general.
Perhaps lyrically a tad silly in places, but it has a scattering of brilliant songs and the mix of orchestral pop and metal keeps it interesting.
Beautiful album. It's just Billy Corgan's voice that gets a little exhausting when you listen to the whole thing in a row, that's why I gave it a 4.
Love this
Pure 90s alt grunge nostalgia. 5 stars, but too long.
This was huge but I was perfectly happy to let it play out. Good background rock. Stand-out: Cupid De Locke
Imagine you're an overly ambitious band that's just released a collection of refined, well-crafted and surprisingly popular songs - in this case Siamese Dream. What's the next step from there? Why of course, a regular two-discer wouldn't cut it; the occasion called for a two-hour monolith, baby. But is it a monolith, though? Looking at the first six tracks, the album sets itself up to be non-stop punches, catchier than ever but without sacrificing that alternative core. Looking at the final five tracks, however, you see a completely different record: a White Album-esque sprawling hodgepodge of genre-hopping tracks. Now both types of double albums have the potential to be great, the non-stop hitters and the kaleidoscopic collections of eclecticism. Where on that scale does this album lie? Honestly... I'm not sure. Somewhere right in the middle of the album, it seems to take an unexpected turn from one end of the spectrum to the other, making sure that it's both and neither at the same time. It's a strange album. Its extensive runtime is both a core part of its identity and a major flaw. The songs are both varied and a bit too safe, really. But hey, it gave the world some of the best rock tracks of all time - even just for containing 1979, this thing deserves three stars.
I've concurred that life is too short to listen to a 2-hour album that sounds like this. I get that the theme is sadness (that's the pun of the title, right?) but it was just too much, and too long. Did I only listen to the first half? Yes. Is that cheating where this list is concerned? Possibly.
По мнению А: 5/5 По мнению С: 5/5 ИТОГОВАЯ ОЦЕНКА: 5/5 (07.02.2025)
3.75
ok this was so good. right up my alley.
Love this album, from the first time I saw the video for Tonight, Tonight on Kerrang (R.I.P Kerrang) to now it’s always been in my album rotation.
Tonight, tonight is still a fantastic song.
Album 676 of 1001 The Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (1995) Rating : 4 / 5 I wasn't feeling good about a 2 hour album but this flew by. Good stuff. Quite diverse and ambitious. From alternative rock and grunge to orchestral ballads and metal, this brings a bit of all. Will come back to this one.
I should have tired of this with it being a double album. I did a little during Disc 2 but not enough to downgrade it. Amazing.
2+ hour long albums are extremely hard to pull off, but this one does it perfectly. Keeping their signature brand of grunge consistent throughout the whole album, but still switching things up and exploring other genres, this album really is The Smashing Pumpkins' magnum opus.
Echt revolutionair. Alleen zijn stem wordt je na de belachelijke runtime van 2 uur wel echt een beetje irritant.
Dit album is echt goed. Niet voor niets een klassieker. Wat het wel tegen zich heeft, is de duur en de combinatie van de duur en de complexiteit van de muziek. Een album van twee uur is lang, eigenlijk te lang. Dan zou je 'm eventueel nog wel op de achtergrond op kunnen zetten. Dat is hier alleen fucking zonde, omdat de muziek en tekst zodanig mooi en complex zijn, dat je hier echt wel aandachtig voor moet zitten. Dan is lastig, omdat 'ie zo lang is. Ik heb 'm dan ook niet af kunnen luisteren. Desalniettemin een toppertje hoor!
I like the band, but I prefer the less "grungy" songs on this album.
Great thing about doing this daily album listening is recognizing popular songs from these bands that you've listened to, but never bothered to look more into the band as a whole. I had no idea that these guys sang the whale wars theme song. Entertaining album, previously, based on the band name, I thought this was some screamo band, pleasant surprise of a rock album to listen to with good variety of tracks.
The soundtrack of my Genx youth
I get the complaints on length, but I think they had enough material to back it up, and enough dynamic playing to make it not necessarily boring too early. The lyrics are good enough to enable this sort of length, I think. Not my absolute favorite, but definitely scratches an itch.
Smashing pumpkins were never my favorite band regardless of that, their music found its way on to the soundtrack of my life. I had never listened to this entire album and didn't even realize it was a double album, but it is something that you can definitely listen to in its entirety.
Strong 4
Tuplalevy voi olla joskus hyvä idea, mutta ei, jos kakkoslevy on levyllinen b-puolta (ellei se ole sitä ihan rehellisesti - tää yrittää muuta, koska on siellä yks sinkkuaineskappale 1979). Ekasta levystä mulla ei ole valittamista, pätevää grungea. Bullet with butterfly wings toimii hyvin siellä keskellä nostattajana. Ihan hilkulla 3.
Jonkinlainen saavutus mutta levynä melkein mahdottomuus. Bullet With Butterfly Wings: kova. Kokonaisuus: loputon. 2,5
Pleasure to listen to. Fav: 1979
Hjärtklappning i ljudform. Frustrerande att lyssna på. Dock riktigt groovy bas i många låtar. ”Galapagos” känns som en oas i en öken, enda låten som inte ger mig panik.
Some great songs but it's too long and I think has some filler in it
This album has deep rooted nostalgia for me. I remember one summer in the late 90's I stayed at my aunt and uncle's place in the city for a few days in the summer and my cousin was a few years older than me. He introduced me to this album, which was so different from the hillbilly backwoods shit I had been privvy to my whole childhood, coming from a little rural town. This would have been my first introduction to music that wasn't country or like commercial classic rock or radio hits. Smashing Pumpkins were kind of an underground, unknown genre of music at the time for me. I remember hearing how overdriven and fuzzy their guitars were and thinking "holy balls, wtf is this"... That led me to explore heavier shit, and the rest is history. But this album is largely responsible for me getting into alt rock/metal in the 00's. I also remember in the song Zero when Billy sings "Emptiness is loneliness, and loneliness is cleanliness, and cleanliness is godliness, and God is empty just like me"... That was the darkest shit I had ever heard up to that point coming from a strong Christian family. Just hearing that I felt like I was gonna be struck down by lightning or some shit. Thinking back now, that isn't even that hard of a lyric, but at the time it was crazy. Now I'm not saying that this is the most amazing album ever... It does have its drawbacks. Mainly, it kind of overstays its welcome, with the 2hr runtime, but this album is so deep rooted in nostalgia for me that it is impossible for me not to give this high marks. I'll always be greatful to my cousin for opening my mind to new types of music, and really starting me down the road to exploring new and different sounds. Favourite songs: Zero, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, Jellybelly, 1979, X.Y.U., Here Is No Why, An Ode to No Ode, Tales of a Scorched Earth, "Tonight, Tonight", Bodies, Thirty-Three Least favourite songs: Porcelina of the Vast Oceans, Take Me Down 4/5
Good
I listened to one side and that was enough,.I am sure they have many people who love the smashing pumpkins, but it was too long and inconsistent for me, a lot like use your illusion 1&2 it could have made a great single album
Bullet With Butterfly Wings speaks to my soul.
It’s the 90’s. I’m on campus. I’m full of angst and stupid overwhelming sadness. I need catharsis, but despite all my rage, I’m still just a rat in a cage. Even if nostalgia wasn’t tied up in this, the music demands reaction. Mellon Collie dredges up all the feels in me.
I’m torn on where to rate this album. On the one hand, I know the singles well, and I was excited to hear them. On the other hand, this album is very long and not every song feels as memorable or necessary. Still, I think I would considering listening to it again, even if broken up over several listening sessions.
Some really great music in the first half, but the second half starts to overstay it's welcome a bit after 1979. There are some lyrics that can look a little cringe in hindsight, but the instrumentals really sell you on them in the moment.
Long, but I enjoyed it. Hard to listen to in one sitting
Overall: 9/10 This album is considered a classic for a reason. It's pretty much just (a lot) more Siamese Dream but that album is a banger so it's hard to complain...just make sure you've got lots of time to listen to this one cause 2 hours is insane for an album. There isn't really any filler either, some songs are of course not as good as others but overall there's not a bad song on the album. It's too bad Billy and company seem to have depleted all of their songwriting talent to make this album cause it's the last Smashing Pumpkins album I enjoy. Fav Song: Bodies Least Fav Song: 1979
A case of the white album phenomena. An album too long, too patchy, but still removing any one song would make it lesser, so is then not perfect? I say it is
Classic rock epic, The American Vegetable Destroyers manage to keep me entertained for a solid 2 hours, the 28 tracks all bring something new to the table, and even though the first half has more bangers, the album as a whole is still just really solid.
This is a hell of a record. A triple LP clocking in at just a hair over two hours. In my opinion this is Billy Corgan’s magnum opus. There’s so many very good singles on this album, it’s genuinely pretty incredible. This album seems to shift through different feelings throughout, at times it’s orchestral, at times melodic and beautiful, and at times aggressive, gritty, and raucous. Some songs are admittedly relatively snoozy, but there’s certainly more bangers than not. I find it really hard to find fault in this record, and I say that as someone who isn’t really a huge fan of the Smashing Pumpkins. “Zero” has always stood out as my favourite song on this record. “Emptiness is loneliness and loneliness is cleanliness and cleanliness is godliness and god is empty, just like me” is still one of the most iconic lyrics ever written. The song also has the added bonus of now reminding me of my significant other, in a roundabout way. I can’t really justify giving this album anything less than full marks. 5*
The thing about records like this that have been so beloved and popular for such a long time is that even if you've never intentionally listened to the whole thing, most of the good songs have trickled their way down to you already. Which is to say, of the two-hour runtime for this album, the songs I enjoyed most were the ones I already knew. I suppose they are the most popular for a reason. However, there is still a lot else to like on this album and I didn't mind the length of it. There is a good amount of variation within the songs without losing a generally cohesive feeling. There were a handful of songs that were new to me that I did especially like, but I wasn't paying attention to the titles for two full hours. It's an admirable piece of work with lots of very pretty songs. Billy Corgan's lyrics are the weak point for me. 8/10 overall I think.
8/10 fairly long album favorites
блин здесь есть крутые песни и в целом это неплохой альбомчик, если бы не два факта: 1) нахуя двойной альбом на 120 минут?? не выкупил концепт, да и в принципе сложно слушать 2) на вокале странный парень конечно
Really good, not perfect, but really good.
Tonight, tonight & Bullet With Butterfly Wings var mina anthem i högstadiet. Ska bli kul att lyssna på hela plattan. Introlåten sätter tonen fint.
1979 has been a favourite one for me since i was a teen. I think the guitar riff alone in this song inspired many 00’s post-punk/garage bands. This has been my first full listen as the album is longer than 2 hours but i’ve enjoyed it. I’ve been leaning mostly on the softer songs on the album as the songs Jellybelly and Tales of a Scorched Earth felt a bit harder to enjoy but Muzzle is a great one too. The intro and outro of the album are quite nice too, i listen to Farewell And Goodnight occasionally these past few months. Might have to come back to this one.
Not for me!
8/10 Favorite Tracks: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, Cupid De Locke, Beautiful, We Only Come Out at Night, By Starlight Least Favorite Tracks: Tales of a Scorched Earth, Jellybelly, X.Y.U
The Smashing Pumpkins, устав от обвинений критиков в монотонности, решили показать публике, что такое настоящий музыкальный калейдоскоп. И показали. Но, как это часто бывает, в стремлении угодить всем, можно потерять суть. Медленные, меланхоличные баллады на альбоме — вот то, что цепляет тут за живое. Они, как поздняя осень, тянут за собой тоску, но такую, которая согревает, а не которая заставляет разбежавшись прыгнуть. Каждая нота как капля холодного дождя на стекле. Голос Коргана здесь звучит как шёпот в пустом доме, где каждый звук отдаётся эхом внутренней боли. Эти песни берут тебя за руку и ведут туда, где все чувства обнажены. Но стоит только ребятам сменить тон на агрессивный, как всё сразу рушится. Гитары, которые они специально в этом альбоме настраивали на полтона ниже, в результате дают не тяжесть, а грязь. Бас гудит, накрывая собой всё, как индустриальный смог. Вокал тонет в этом хаосе, будто пытается пробиться сквозь бетонную стену. Вместо силы и напора — неразборчивая масса шума.
A mixed bag tbh. I guess that's inevitable on a 28-track album.
Is this some kind of antique MCR? Not for me 🫨
Can easily spot who Corgan got influenced by throughout the album. Consists of bangers that were already on my personal rotation and some new ones has surely been added. Great mix of dirtier sounds and mellow tunes, they also did a good job with keeping the quality of the songs consistent.
Damn, this is long. I sat with this one for a while. There's some good stuff on here, but dude's voice grates on me a bit. Nevertheless, I feel it would be remiss of me to give this anything less than four stars. It's a seminal record. Favourite tracks: Tonight, Tonight, Bullet With Butterly Wings.
A masterpiece. A truly timeless classic filled with absolute bangers.
Despite the 2 hour run time, the record flows beautifully with barely any filled tracks (actual rating:4.5)
I enjoyed this music. I’ve always heard of the smashing pumpkins but never actually listened to them
I've long been ambivalent about The Smashing Pumpkins. The hits have nostalgia value, and the line "despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage" is still a great line. But I'm just not very emo when it comes down to it. Probably does deserve a spot on this list.
Tonight, Tonight, Bullet with Butterfly Wings, and 1979 are songs that are nostalgic just from being someone who has listened to alternative radio for a long time. But I’m learning I really am not into 2 hour albums. More is not better, just more. I feel very neutrally about this.
This album is almost operatic in a certain way. I like the vibe and the story tellling where it exists, but Billy Corgan’s voice literally ruins the entire thing for me though. It’s metallic and whiny. Standout tracks are “1979” and “Zero”.
So half the songs were a 4 and half were 2 stars. Cut the 2 stars out and there would be a very nice full length album in there. This was no “The Wall” for Gen X!
sounds like something i should be nostalgic for. I would have adored this in high school. As for now I’m more appreciative that I now hear it and can see it as a landmark in its time, that I understand the intended or unintended referential modern music that is linked back to this moment.
I enjoyed some of this and didn’t like other parts. Glad I listened though 6/10
A classic for a reason!! She's beautiful <3
I did not expect every SP song i know to be from the same album. Some bangers, but 2 hours of Billy Corgan’s voice is 1.5 hours too many. Album art slaps though.
Ein richtiges Album
I waited at the record shop to buy this the day it came out. Me and my friend Pete listened to it on repeat in his basement before getting bored and turning on scrambled porn. Not as good as non-scrambled porn, but definitely better than squinting for boobs. Should've been a single disc (but isn't that always the case?).
aburrido
This album is a million hours long and, with the exception of a couple songs, is torture porn for the ears. Billy Corgan at his most insufferable.
No private session used for Spotify. I have this CD somewhere, or maybe an ex has it. It's got some beautiful songs on it. It's been a while since I have listened to a lot of Smashing Pumpkins and I forgot how accustomed I had become to Billy's nasal whine, which this time through took away from a lot of the songs. Sometimes I listen to a double album and think "this would have been better as a single album" meaning about half the songs could have been eliminated, but not this album.
Good. But feels a bit old
Did I just get yelled at for 2 hours? As someone who grew up in the 90's I recognize at least 4 of the 28 songs! I would probably need to give the album more time to fully appreciate it, but due to the "mellon collie and infinite sadness" of adult life, I cannot. Keep those 4 songs coming though, wicked cool!
Some good songs, but overall kinda forgettable. Got tired of the guys voice by the end
Great
Why was this a double album? There's a ton of good tracks here, and it could have been an incredible album, but it's just drowned out on disc 2 with (almost) nothing but filler.
wild journey
Great Album. Tonight Tonight is one of my favorite music videos of all time and I remember getting this album when I was in elementary school, and continue enjoying it just as much.
A fair bit of variation between tracks on this album, but I think the reason that I really only thought I liked We Only Come Out At Night, for example, was because so many of the other tracks were such a slog. Also a double album is never the easiest thing to listen to, at more than 2 hours this is definitely at least twice as much Smashing Pumpkins than I needed to hear. A few very 90s-sounding tracks in here. I'm sure a lot of this was on the Daria soundtrack, if I could be bothered to look it up.
Very long album. Quite good tho
Potentially one of the best albums of all time. Such an enjoyable journey through every song, a great mix of heavy, somber, and everything in between. A great encapsulation of 'melancholy', and engaging throughout the entire runtime
I had no idea the "despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage" song was Smashing Pumpkins. My husband laughed at me. I've never listened to this album due to being surrounded by Pumpkin-loving boys in the 90s and not wanting to encourage them. It's pretty good.
I didn't listen to the second part of the album before the challenge reset, but I deeply enjoyed what I did listen to. This can be considered an attempt to map all corners of negative feeling; some songs embody bittersweetness, nostalgia, heartbreak, and indeed melancholy, whereas others are substantially angrier and express grievances about life and the world — for this reason, the album could appeal to younger people in particular. In my opinion, this record is at its best when its passions accumulate and burst into explosions of sound: on 'Here Is No Why' and 'Muzzle' for example, the instruments and vocals combine in force to rush the eardrums and invade the mind of the listener, twisting and twirling and steering and skirling within the skull. When this happens it's extremely difficult not to mirror and participate in that intensity of feeling. Not only will I go on to listen to the second part of the album, but I will also most likely replay this several times in the future. Favourites: Jellybelly, Here Is No Why, To Forgive, Love, Muzzle, Porcelina Of The Vast Oceans (2/1001, 8th Jan. '25, 0414h. Recreation of lost first draft created at approx. 0235h.)
WAY too long for this challenge. This was fine. Some nice sounds but I think I skipped before the end of every track. This sort of thing has been done a lot better before and since
There are a few listenable songs scattered throughout the two mostly unbearable hours of this double album. Do not recommend.
Another one that would benefit from some serious trimming. There are several really strong tracks on here, but if the other twenty or so were removed, this would be a very good record.
i was excited to listen to this one but the further i got into it the more i just wanted it to end. ugh. maybe i just dont like the smashing pumpkins that much.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG but varried
Gish and Siamese Dream are the kind of great records that changed my world when I heard them. Later, right at the inflection point of Mellon Collie, Smashing Pumpkins morphed somehow. I never bear to listen to the whole record before now; the tracks seemed to be increasingly padded with indulgent, meandering vanities, and a lower proportion of blistering psychedelic barrages. Of course there are several proper classic bangers here, but many more dismal duds.
it is a little wild how the songs i (and most other people who were born after the time of the Pumpkins) got to know this band from were from a two hour long album. i hesitate to call it "epic" because i don't really think it has that quality to it, but Mellon Collie doesn't really seem like a file dump. really, it feels most like -- and this is an odd analogy, i know -- those Made-for-TV cartoon movies (Phineas and Ferb: Across the Second Dimension or Kim Possible: So the Drama) that feel like long episodes of the show they're based off of. of course, this doesn't mean nothing has changed; paradoxically, their big ambitious feature album is also a huge pop swing with crossover appeal. oddly enough, the strongest moments of the album are when it sounds completely divorced from the Yankee shoegaze of Siamese Dream. the softness of songs like "Tonight, Tonight", "1979", and "Thirty-Three" feel like an actual progression of the band's art, something alluded to by "Disarm" on the last LP. they're at their weakest at Big Layered Guitars with Whining like on "An Ode to No One" or "Tales of a Scorched Earth". those songs aren't necessarily bad, but they feel like songs by a band that wanted to make a sequel to Siamese Dream instead of something ambitious and daring. as a result, it can end up blurring together by the end of the first disc. there's also the issue of all the weird tracks being sort of crammed in the back quarter of the album, as when you've been worn down, you're blindsided by softer, goofier tracks that would have been better sequenced in between the seas of creamy fuzz that can fade into the background. i'm not even sure how the track play into the structure of one disc being the day and the other being the night -- "Lily (My One and Only)" and "Stumbeline" sure seem sunny compared to "Bullet with Butterfly Wings". i can see why people slowly start to get fatigued by this record and hone in on the excellence of the singles. i can't hate Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, in fact, i love a lot of it. it's just harder to love as a whole. i couldn't see it being anything but expansive, and i also couldn't see myself coming back now that i've heard the whole thing.
4.5
Billy Corgan used to write some pretty cringey, teenage angst-ridden lyrics. He still does, but he used to, too. But the thing is, broken clock and all that, Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness has enough homeruns to justify the cringe. My choice for the true anthem for Gen X'ers is easy - "Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage".
The fact that Billy Corgan wrote this at 28 proves that being an angry, angsty teen has nothing to do with age.
This album is a fucking classic for me... XD Angry, noisy, juvenile...
The Smashing Pumpkins are one of those bands where you’re like “Oohh this is going to be good” and then the lead singer starts singing and they sound like a dying cat. Despite that I still really like “Tonight, Tonight”, “1979”, and “Bullet With Butterfly Wings”.
I am not a huge Smashing Pumpkins fan but I do know how good this album is. I do remember it being released and only listening to the singles. Which I enjoyed.
I graduated high school the year this album came out, it was a huge hit. My friends and I loved it and listened to it a lot. I remember thinking that it was cool to have a double CD because it was one of the first for me. The videos were also really cool for several of the songs. I really have great memories of this and will listen to it many more times. One of my biggest regrets is not seeing them play live.
Too long. My ears hurt.
Nostalgia bumped this one up for me. I remember my older siblings listening to Smashing Pumpkins; this album in particular. Vocals are there, drums are great, and it's just a well rounded 90's sound in my opinion. Solid 4!
This massive album is solid. It is so diverse the bigness isn't a detriment.
This might have been the high point of the band, but I just never really liked this band, so, it's hard to give it a higher score.
Einige hörenswerte Titel, ein Einfachalbum hätte gereicht.
A true musical journey. A two-hour album is so much better when it goes through all sorts of peaks and valleys like this. It's very impressive that The Smashing Pumpkins were able to fit all this music together so cohesively. Gave myself a good two hours to listen to this one, and it was very much worth it.
Excellent Monument of my youth!
Too long but lots of hits
Soft 90’s smumpkins
4.25 That's a solid 2h album!
Homer Simpson, smiling politely. I like the Pumpkins well enough, but Billy’s vocals and affinity for the occasional ear-piercing guitar feedback require this album to be taken in smaller, bite-sized pieces. I think I would have liked it less had I done it all in one sitting.
The few good ones keep this from a 2, but 2 hours is really asking for it.
Yes, it's too long but there's enough good and great stuff here to make it a 4. Kind of crazy to me that 1979 doesn't come up until almost halfway through the second album.
Corrigan's voice is tough to take for a whole album, let alone two. Some good song-writing, but overshadowed by his screechy voice.
Undeniable classic but also it’s true that disc two is weak.
Enjoyed. This is an era I missed while starting a career and entering parenthood.
The cover artwork for The Smashing Pumpkins' "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness" is a striking blend of whimsy and darkness. The iconic image of a girl atop a star captures a dreamlike quality, evoking both nostalgia and unease. While the collage technique is intriguing, drawing from classical art sources, it may feel disjointed to some viewers. The overall aesthetic reflects the album's themes of duality, balancing light and dark elements effectively. However, the surreal nature might not resonate with everyone. Ultimately, it stands as a memorable piece that complements the album's complexity but doesn't fully transcend its era. Album artworks rated: 17/1001 Music's great.
He is heard to deal with for 2 hours. Had to break it up. Its a 4 all day, just for the hits and there are some hidden gems but again, trim the fat. Didn’t need to be this long. Could only be released when it was. Wouldn’t have made it in any other time in history
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Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness isn’t just an album — it’s an epic. The Smashing Pumpkins delivered a sprawling, ambitious double LP that somehow manages to feel both grandiose and deeply personal. It swings wildly from rage to beauty, despair to hope, chaos to calm — and somehow, it all works. “1979” is the emotional anchor — nostalgic, reflective, and effortlessly cool, it captures that sense of youth slipping away without slipping into sentimentality. “Bullet with Butterfly Wings” is pure frustration and angst, delivered with Billy Corgan’s signature snarl over a wall of crunching guitars. Then there’s “Tonight, Tonight,” a soaring orchestral masterpiece that feels cinematic in scope and timeless in message. And let’s not forget “XYU” — an unhinged, snarling beast of a track that showcases the darker, heavier edge of the band. It’s violent, chaotic, and utterly compelling in contrast to the album’s softer moments. With Mellon Collie, the Pumpkins took a huge creative risk and pulled it off spectacularly. It’s rare for an album this long to be so consistently strong, but every track feels like a piece of a larger emotional puzzle. A defining statement from one of the ’90s most unique bands — and one that still resonates just as deeply today. Favorite song: XYU
7/10 because again, it’s just too much
Great album, but boy is it long. Feel like there's a fair amount of fat that could be trimmed to make it an easy 5 for me. I've listened to other Smashing Pumpkins albums, but never got around to this one with the exception of the singles. Lots of hidden gems on here, but you've got to work for them.
3* Good bangers but the album is ridiculously long. 2 whole hours!
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Would have enjoyed it more if it wasn’t so long.
I love the Smashing Pumpkins...but I simply did not have the time to listen to 2 hours of Smashing Pumpkins. Never listened to this album straight through because of its length. I tried. I failed. The limited amount of songs I heard outside of the hits were fine...no spectacular.
Not a huge fan of the Smashing Pumpkins but this was enjoyable enough. Not sure I will ever sit through the whole album again.
i know this one well. I've always been fascinated by how this album combines heavy songs with light relief. Sometimes it feels like an endurance test to get to the respite... but maybe that's the point. First record starts super strong with no misses. Tonight Tonight is one of my favourite ever songs. The second half is a slog, with some bright moments. An unquestionable 5 for the first disc, and a 3 for the second. I would call it a 4/4.5 with some of my favourite ever songs on here as well.
I mean it's fine. Has a bunch of good songs but why is it almost 2 hours long?!?!?!? Billy Corgan this is unnecessary 6/10
I knew a bunch of songs from this album, but hadn't ever really listened to the whole thing at once. There's a lot to digest here, quite a range of sounds and volumes and noises, all with Corgan's screechy voice doing it's thing on top. Some really beautiful quieter songs, and some really rocking anthems. It was maybe a bit long, but overall an amazing album
I liked the slower songs the best, especially the first.
I liked the slower/softer songs. 1979 and galapogos were standouts
Yeahhhh this is a fantastic album. I understand if Billy Corgan's vocals are not for you, but the guitar riffs, the passion in the vocals, etc etc are so so good. I will say...this is a longgggg album (over 2 hours) and there were definitely some filler songs that could have been cut, but all things considered, it's a great album. I personally wasn't a huge fan of the last 5 songs (although Farewall And Goodnight wasn't too bad) but Disc 1 (as referenced on Spotify) was near perfect. Actual rating is a 4.5. Liked Songs: Too many to name: "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" , "Tonight, Tonight" , and "1979" are all CLASSICS. The first 6-ish songs are all perfect
This is the Sex Pistols review because I'm dumb. It's early punk, but honestly I liked this more than some other punk from the same time. It's definitely more interesting and varied than some others (Ramones...) The album is a 3 for me, but since I already messed up the ratings for one album, I'm giving this the rating for the album it actually is (see the Sex Pistols album for my Smashing Pumpkins review)
There are songs I like on this album, but I don’t love the Album. In fact, I recently saw them live opening for Green Day and was even more disappointed. I enjoyed some of their songs, but as a whole, I wouldn’t just go and listen to this album.
Groupe connu, en particulier par le morceau "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" (++), mais je n'avais jamais écouté un album entier. Manque de chance c'est un triple album avec plus de 2:00 de musique. Alors fatalement des morceaux moyens côtoient ceux plus réussis. Et malheureusement les plus réussis sont minoritaires ... =>2/5
A big swing that pays off. Lots of inventive musicianship that weaves within some different areas of the 90's alt-rock bubble.
Too long. Didn’t listen to it all
TL;DR
Fun fact: Being John Malkovich was originally supposed to be Being Billy Corgan but he only wanted to film the scenes in the universe where every character was him.
Remember how I said that Smashing Pumpkins would be better if they focused on being a scrappy indie band? Anyhoo, turns out they went entirely the other way in 1995 and released an incredibly overblown and tedious two hour long concept album. The punning album title is irritating too. It also turns out that the lead singer is a long time anti-vaxxer and far right loon, so he can get in the bin as far as I’m concerned
I don't know if it's a work of art or a bloating piece of crap. There are a bench of interesting things from a musical point of view (but hey, if you deliver two hours of music that might be expected?), but it's way too long, way too pompous, the production is not really good and doesn't really do justice to the instruments (but it probably helps to hide Corgan's voice), and Corgan's voice is... well, Corgan's. Keep the good songs, make it a regular album, and it might be good. But this? Ugh.
Have never really listened to this album before - and really only know the singles :Tonight, Tonight, 1979 and Bullet with Butterfly Wings which are all great songs (although not quite as good as Today). At 2 hours the rest of the album feels bloated and quite varied in tone. Unfortunately do not have the time the album probably needs for me to give it enough listens to fully appreciate it. After my first run through I think that Siamese Dreams is the much stronger album.
I think my review is bias, because I don't like Billy Corgan. But the hits are good, and the output is crazy. If you like this kind of sound, this album is PACKED full of song. But overall this isn't for me
Meh
SIIIIII
Glad to try it again but about the same as last time: nice to listen to, but all sounds the same and goes on forever
I only have to look at this album cover for "We Only Come Out at Night" to become stuck in my head, and I feel like I should deduct a star for that. It's an ear worm that gets very annoying very quickly. "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" was one of my first favorite songs as a kid, so there's a certain level of nostalgia that comes with the Smashing Pumpkins (before Billy ruined it with his turn toward the insane). That said, I'm more of a singles fan than a huge Smashing Pumpkins buff. I've listened to the first three albums (but really more as an adult) and enjoy them, but the only SP album I own is the Rotten Apples greatest hits compilation. Embarrassingly, I did buy the Zwan album when it came out. This album is good, but like most double albums, it's just way too long for me. It has some classic SP songs, like the aforementioned "Bullet With Butterfly Wings," "Tonight, Tonight," "1979," and "Zero." But by the time it gets to the second volume I've started to tune out. I respect the ambition of the project, but two hours is an insane amount of time to devote to one listening session, especially when not every song is a masterpiece. And I'm one of the rare people who doesn't hate Billy Corgan's voice (though I will never understand what he's singing on "1979" without looking at the lyrics in front of me). It's also not just because it's the "darker" half of the album — some of my favorite SP songs are the darker, heavier ones. I just feel like a lot of the second volume is filler. This album is certainly historically important, and "Tonight, Tonight" will always be one of the most impressive music videos ever made. But it's not an album I'll sit down and casually listen to very often, if at all. 3.5/5 (I'll round to a 4 since I can't do half stars).
The album is too long, some songs I clearly liked, but it is very long, the truth is, a little difficult to listen to and concentrate on. 2.5
Classic.
While I am not the biggest fan of Billy Corgan, this sounds awesome. Especially the more tender tunes are beautiful.
too long, didn't like the vocals, some OK music dotted around
Love the name and album art. I can appreciate the album, but I probably won’t be going back to it
There is a lovely balance between the softer and harder songs, some very big hits on this album, Corgan's vocals are so unique. The main issue is the length of the album. 28 songs and 2hrs long. I feel it would have been a much better record of it was shorter.
there was one summer i listened to this on my discman on repeat. i met a girl at summer camp who also loved it and she was the first girl i ever dated.
Masterpiece
What a fantastic set of rock songs, perfectly crafted, perfectly curated. If only the vocals didn't smear a sharpie all over it. I hate that whiney voice. 3.5/5
3/5
First disc of this album, jeepers forgot what the 90s had to offer
I think the cover art and the album title are quite brilliant. As for the music, it's certainly commendable for it's epic production, featuring some brilliantly sweeping arrangements and tight musicianship. It's a very long album (double CD, triple vinyl), so you could say it's a sprawling affair. I think one issue is Billy Corgan's vocals, while perfectly acceptable, struggle to carry it for the full two hours of music. Ya know, if you directly compare this to 'The White Album' (which isn't that much shorter), The Beatles had 4 vocalists and a lot more variation in singing styles and moods. By song 5 on The Smashing Pumpkins, I had a head ache coming on. Final analysis, probably really a 2, but 2 feels a bit mean so I bumped it up to 3.
Following up Siamese Dream, which teenage me deemed one of the greatest albums ever written, was always going to be tough. This double album is long and probably contains some of greatest songs written by The Smashing Pumpkins, aside from those on Siamese Dream. It successfully captures all the emotions and turmoil of being 15, an example of a band understanding their fanbase and writing songs specifically for them perhaps. However, whilst Siamese Dream still holds up well 30 years later, MCIS feels like more of a chaotic mess than a masterpiece. In hindsight, perhaps a shorter single album would have survived better.
This seems the point when the band went from kinda interesting to a bit boring. Egg headed ghost like annoyance, too much production.
Terrible, just drones on and on and on. Smashing Pumpkins never really managed to replicate their peak which was Siamese Dream.
Great fun but far too long.
I always wanted to like this album more than I actually did. There are many great highlights, but like most other reviewers, the double-album feels far too long, most get tired of Corgan's vocals after 20 minutes.
This is gonna take awhile. Listened to most of it running at mission bay. Found a couple new favorite tracks like Galapogos and Bodies.
der name ist programm, nichts zum nebenbei hören...nur für sehr spezielle abende zu empfehlen
Disc 1. I'm enjoying this a lot, although the vocals are throwing me off slightly on first listen. 4/5 Disc 2. I got used to the vocals but the second half didn't hold my interest as well as the first. 3.5/5 All together 4/5
The slower songs were highlights, as the heavier metal ones are just not my style. I think a lot of really good material on here though, and doesn't really feel bloated like many double albums tend to. 7/10
Der Mittelteil geht, Rest zu lang zu einfallslos 4/10
Only listened to the first 5-6 songs but I just don’t like it. It’s also way too long with both discs (2 hours). Anyway it’s just not my kind of music.
It's one of those albums where any attempt at criticism will be met by serious alt-music enthusiasts tutting like crazy. But, it shouldn't be above critical appraisal. Yes, it's a serious artistic work, but ... it needs some pruning, and some of the lyrics are a tad high-school-ish. Musically, and production-wise...no complaints, but.... not the unmitigated genius that many blindly call it.
Die Stimme ist so nervig. Ich habe nur Disc 1 gehört, danach abgebrochen, weil ich keine Lust mehr hatte.
If anyone else in the world with a different voice than this lead singer, was the lead singer I think I could enjoy these songs but since that's not the case only two stars first songwriting and interesting Melody
So, the Pumpkins are from my time period in the genre that I primarily listened to at the time. But past Siamese Dream, which is a masterpiece, I've never really been able to get into them. I don't think I've ever listened to this album all the way through - I've only heard the radio songs - so this will be interesting. It's simultaneously very good, and also I didn't really connect to it. But you really can't argue with an album that has Tonight, Tonight, Zero, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, 1979, and Thirty-Three. As previously mentioned, this was my era, so I can appreciate how different this album was than the normal fare while also staying (mostly) true to itself. So I'll give the fact that it's a double album a little leeway, because 2 hours of Smashing Pumpkins is too goddamned long. This is one of those albums again, where I really wish I had half stars to play with. The album is so much better than many albums I've rated three stars, but nowhere near as good as most of the albums I've rated 4 stars. I guess I'd give it 3.5 stars if I could. That said, I'm going to lean into recency bias a bit. I gave Dinosaur Jr. three stars yesterday and this album is light years better than that, so 4 stars it is.
What a iconic album 👏
It’s up there for one of my favourite albums of all time. Starting off with the nice intro straight into tonight tonight mmmm 1979, XYU, Zero too many good songs to list. Fat ass 2 hour album, On record this is a pain to keep flipping and swapping records but this is a easy 5/5 for me
Is good A nice mix of punk, chillness and weirdness
Long winded alt rock epic. Wouldn’t quite say the birth of emo but wouldn’t be far from it
Billy Corgan does it again, probably top 5 bald guys of all time. Zero goes pretty hard, the titular track opens up so nicely and Ofcourse 1979 is a classic. Siamese dream is better, but they’re both incredible albums.
an epic, in the truest sense of the word. very long, but very worth it. fantastic.
It’s aptly named and is quite the rock/punk journey. Somehow Billy corgan made an album that’s simultaneously very good, but also I didn't connect with a lot of it. Right after tonight tonight you’re throwing into a mosh pit with jelly belly and it sounds like something from the pixies or Elliot smith lol. But you really can't argue with an album that has Tonight, Tonight, Zero, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, 1979, and Thirty-Three. I like it, don’t love it and it’s nowhere near a 5 but here I am writing a lot about it so I must have thoughts. It’s more like a 3.5-4 for me. Billy’s voice just starts irritating me after awhile…. As a piece of a art it’s impressive nonetheless
Listened to this again after not having heard it for some time. My personal preference was always for Siamese Dream, but on this resistenc I found myself more impressed with the consistency of good quality songs across both discs. Overall I was impressed with this album upon revisiting it after all these years.
:3
i love this album so much. it’s the best album of the 90’s that isn’t britpop
This album holds a special place in my heart. I received it for my 11th birthday and listened to both discs over and over. My first concert was seeing the smashing pumpkins on tour for this album. Natural 5 stars
This didn't need to be a double album. There are good songs on here and if the fat was trimmed, this could have been a really good album. Instead, some decent tracks and a lot of filler. Gets a passing grade but that's all.
Solid album. Lots of hits. Some overplayed a bit much when released. Just a tad long for me. 3.75
Sometimes less is more. Just a hair too many 'just okay' songs to make this a 5, but still wonderful. 4/5
Has some of the Pumpkins’ greats, like 1979, Zero and Buller with Butterfly Wings, but is overly long. 3.5-3.75, I’ll be generous and round up.
i liked it, didnt finish it tho
Better than I expected. There are some really, really good songs. But his voice is still terribly grating.
It’s amazing how they can go from soft and sensitive to ripping boarder line metal. They’re diverse. Some of these songs are iconic and hold up. Some of these are outright bad. I think the album could have been trimmed down to one disc.
Great album. Loved quite a few songs. Would love to add to my collection
manchmal ein wenig düster mit bass und viel drums, aber mit dem gesang und melodischen gitarren passt das dann doch nett in die gehörgänge. bandname gekannt, sound war neu für mich.
Ein Album das etwas mehr Zeit braucht aber für mich eine Entdeckung.
Jävligt många tajta låtar. Älskar ju SPs sound, men skivan är faktiskt lite för lång med några dippar. Men en styrka är ändå variationen (inom spektrumet för "SP-soundet). Gillar trummorna väldigt mycket. Sen är det väldigt många sköna riff. Sångrösten är som vanligt, tyvärr, inte det starkaste kortet (men man har vant sig...). Bäst, Jellybelly, to forgive, mellon collie, 1979 (bland många riktigt bra låtar).
Så mycket kvalitet på den här skivan att den om den kortats ned till en enkelskiva (med rätt låtar) hade varit en solklar femma. Nu blir den lite för lång och med några låtar man kunde klarat sig utan, men på det stora hela ändå imponerande bra. Stark fyra.
The instrumental backing is lovely The singing is unbearable
Always prefer Gish but this was a very good album 1979 being a stand out track :)
The most grandiose and expansive alt-rock album ever and one that has aged surprisingly well. On MCIS the Pumpkins sound both more like a band playing in a room together and more like a band drastically expanding its solid pallet. Everything about this album is extra: The strings are big and orchestral, the guitars are muscular and in your face, the heavy songs are metallic and brash, the ballads are dreamy and stretched out, and the quiet intimate songs are weird and quirky. Somehow Flood recorded this album on a warehouse sound stage with a full PA blasting and it actually sounds tight and hifi. Despite its length there is not much filler here. There were 5 hit singles from this album: Bullet, Tonight Tonight, 1979, Zero, and Thirty-Three but there could have been several more including Jellybelly, Here Is No Why, and Muzzle, not to mention classic album cuts like Ruby, Porcelina, and Bodies. Just an incredible feat of songwriting and creativity. Possibly the best double album of all time, or at least in the conversation with the White Album and The Wall. Easy 5 for me.
I really don’t think there is anything unique at interesting about this album. The music is generic and the songs are too long.
I like Smashing Pumpkins, and I liked this, although as has been noted the length of this as a double album did leave me feeling a little fatigued by the end of it
Probably a bit too long but the good tracks are belters
It's good - really good at points - but it's just far too long and there's a lot of nothing in there
Album is okay. Overall the tone really isn’t my thing, but the songs I knew before listening are still good. A two plus hour album is rough though. 3/5 Probably won’t listen again
A bit of a long one to get through. Not really the music that appeals to me these days. I can get into some of the tracks. I can dig the musical theme throughout, like a concept album, which I hold a lot of respect for. It’s just not for me these days. Maybe after a few more listens I’ll recognize some tracks that have caught my attentIon.
It's good. But it falls into that category of rock that it just a bit top end on the levels and I fin it all a bit ... scratchy.
Okay so I guess all the albums I can quickly mark as a 5 are grunge from the late 80's and 90's. Task: follow Siamese Dream. SP: Bet (to quote Gen Z). It's as good, and maybe Butch Vig gets as much credit as Billy Corgan. As with some of the other grunge albums I rated a "5", this has half a dozen songs that are among my favorites, and that never get old. Those songs single handedly make this a 5, and the rest is gravy (very good gravy).
A work of art.
A double album was probably too indulgent. There's definitely 42 min of good songs on there.
The rock double album was an near obsolete beast in the 1990s, having been relegated to coveting greatest hits collections and being displaced by the 70 plus minute long CD and changes in style and tolerance for such ambitious world-building expenses. Leave it to Billy Corgan to bring the double album back to prominence. Never afraid to showcase his ambition in a moment in time where such feelings were against type, Corgan saw to it that his band, Smashing Pumpkins, craft the most blown out, expansive, timely and reflective album of the mid-90s. The end result, Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, marked the turning point where not only the Pumpkins transcended the dying embers of grunge but had briefly integrated themselves into the pop culture lexicon. With its blasts of orchestral laden rock with glimmers of what was to come later on for the band, Mellon Collie is perhaps the last greatest album to come from the grunge era as its aesthetic merged with corporate sensibilities for good. Disc One: Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness, Tonight, Tonight, Jellybelly, Zero, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, An Ode to No One, Love, Galapogos, Muzzle, Porcelina of the Vast Oceans. Disc Two: Where Boys Fear to Tread, Bodies, Thirty-Three, In the Arms of Sleep, 1979, Tales of a Scorched Earth, Thru the Eyes of Ruby, X.Y.U., We Only Come Out at Night, Beautiful, Lily (My One & Only).
Da world is a vampire
Angsty music from the 90s. I'm never going to say no to that. Even though the album superficially sounds like it is not all connected, going straight through until the end, everything sounded like it all fit together. A testament to the song writing I guess.
2/5 Some nice intrumentals in there but I didn’t like the vocals.
Acho que gostei mais do Siamese Dream, mas acho que tem umas músicas boas também. É uma música mais lentinha, que eu normalmente não gosto de ouvir, mas acho que darei mais chance para The Smashing Pumpkins. Quando eu aprender a letra, talvez fique mais fácil de ouvir. Músicas que eu gostei: * Muzzle * Zero * Tonight, Tonight * Beautiful * Bodies * 1979
Gostei demais desse! Para mim, parece que o álbum passa por vários estágios da tristeza, com faixas que variam entre muito intensas e muito calmas. Amei o fato que a segunda faixa do álbum parece muito uma música de the killers. Destaques: "Tonight, Tonight"; "Here is now why", "Muzzle", "Bodies" e "1979"
Surprisingly enjoyed
I loved Siamese Dream, but didn't like singles from this one, so I never had the opportunity to listen to it until now. Wow it's long, but there is a lot of good music in here, just not as good as Siamese Dream in my opinion. As others have said, Jimmy Chamberlin's drumming stands out. Liked Songs Added: Muzzle Where Boys Fear To Tread Bodies
I love the smashing pumpkins!!!!!!<3
I came in going this album is way too long and not really enjoying Billy Corgan's voice. I left still feeling this way, but also in spite of all this, this is a 5 star album. The range of styles on display, the absolutely rocking riffs mixed with really wonderful, dramatic tunes, it's a masterpiece. I just wish it had been split into two.
I think it’s best if I handpick the best tracks on this one as it was good but I prefer Siamese Dream… There’s obvious picks such as tonight tonight, bullet with butterfly wings, 1979 and zero. Also I loved love, I know it’s not necessarily a fan favourite but it reminded me a bit of stabilisers for big boys by panchiko, just not as good. Bodies stuck out to me as great through all of my listens. Through the eyes of ruby is a great little epic, being so late in the album it didn’t hit the first time I heard it but still it’s great. X.Y.U. Drags a tad more out of the two lover songs but it’s still great . And by starlight is a very fitting climax to the album. The rest is fine perhaps controversially Galapagos and thirty three didn’t stand out too much even though they’re meant to be fan favourites I swear. I honestly need to hear it more but I’d say 4/5
An excellent album that's way, way too long.
This is #day88 of my #1001albumsyoumusthearbeforeyoudie challenge, and... I've always found Billy Corgan's tendency to create sprawling albums like "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness" fascinatingly bewildering. While I can appreciate its monumental scope and how it reflects the '90s alternative rock scene, I'm highly unlikely to listen to the entire album again due to its unjustified length. I mean, the whole thing is 28 tracks long, droning on for a little more than 2 hours... But then again, I think the point here is that you must hear this album before you die... So, kind of at least once? At the same time, however, the consistency and story are undeniable. Standouts are "Tonight, Tonight", "Bullet With Butterfly Wings", "Galapogos", "1979", and maybe a few more. Overall, let it be a 4 out of 5 from me. Looking forward to #day89.
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Dense. Angry. Anguished. Sprawling, in a sense, but samey, too. (If I had enjoyed it more, I would probably have said something like "sonically consistent", but there is a lot of it that is ok, but also very like the rest of it without being in any way outstanding.) Some good guitar sounds, and striking bass playing. I listened to it twice, which is probably not enough to unveil its mysteries, but twice round was plenty for me
When a band releases a double album only three albums into their career, you know they have lots to say. Mellon Collie...allows the band to explore and expand their range of styles and song ideas on a big scale, that single LP's don't have the space to allow. Though I wouldn't call myself a Smashing Pumpkin's fan, I would consider this album their epic masterpiece (if you had to pick one) and best showcases Billy Corgan and the band's skills with a mix of songs, some beautiful, but also some less interesting. As with most double albums, there is filler and could have been edited down the song count for a more cohesive and impactful record. This is the first Pumpkin's album I've actually completely listened to and have to admit it was for the most part enjoyable, but after a while I almost forgot who I was listening to. Good, but too long.
it’s a 2 hour smashing pumpkins album. a few songs are admittedly cool - especially when they don’t sound like themselves. unfortunately it’s still a 2 hour smashing pumpkins album and it’s tough for that to be good
1070 albums rated and counting...
Billie corgan's voice could grate cheese. 2 stars cuz I kinda like the roller coaster song
Tried this album too many times. Only a few good songs so not worth it and nowhere close to Siamese dream
It’s sooooo long and my favorite track is Tonight, Tonight so there’s a lot to get through after that
Nostalgic album that reminds me of the 90s but not super my vibe
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1bz7v49/billy_corgan_rides_a_rollercoaster/
This is an incredible accomplishment from The Smashing Pumpkins with them creating one of the greatest double albums of all time.
Yeah, I like this. Tonight, Tonight has always been a favourite, and Bullet with Butterfly Wings kicks ass.
Another nostalgia trip here. I loved this double album in my teenage angst years. I feel like some songs are definitely dated but their hits hold up. Some weird lyrics looking back...
billy corgan sucks for a million different reason but one of the main reasons is that his delivery surely inspired the likes of gerard way and other similarly SHIT emo music. so that alone is a crime against humanity as far as i’m aware. the music is good!!!! his voice and terrible vibes really ruin it which is really too bad. i actually liked the slower songs better because that’s more my vibe re: annoying man voice…the faster/more metal songs are too emo-adjacent! fav tracks: beautiful; lily (my one and only)
"Emptiness is loneliness, and loneliness is cleanliness / And cleanliness is godliness, and God is empty / Just like me" oh shut the fuck UP!!! honestly the more metal songs were much more listenable to me than the indie whiny ones. emilia recommended putting myself in the mindset of a teenage boy when listening to this which i think is apt as i cannot take this seriously as an adult and/or beautiful woman...
Too long and mixed everything possible
This surprised me a lot, the world is a vampire. Too long of an album tho.
Fantastic. One of the best double-albums ever.
I wanted to give it a 3 star for being so fucking long, but it's not a threefer... I could probably edit this down to a 75 min strong to high 3½ star... mostly cutting from disc 2. Disc one actually is not that bad as it is even with "Zero" still in play. Definitely woukd keep "1979", "Through The Eyes of Ruby" and the closer. (7.1) ★★★½
Too long and too varying in quality. 3 stars
There's a 5-star album in here somewhere, but it really suffers from bloat. The first disc is really good, but outside of the hits, the second one is mostly forgettable. 4 stars.
Certainly not wrong about ‘infinite’. There’s so many songs to wade through here. I got bored after about 7. Plus you have the constant, painful Billy Corgan screech and whine to contend with. Some nice symphonic elements and 1979 is on here but overall getting through this double album is completely torturous.