Reviews (page 10 of 16)
Lotsa banging toons
2 hours plus of hard rock by a band who you’re not familiar with seemed a pretty daunting task. However the lyrics and quality musicianship made it an interesting experience.
Lovely in some places, interesting and engaging in places, a bit too much Billy Corgan in others. I enjoy the instrumentals very much but I find his voice a little too whiny and OTT at times and it ruins things a bit. Also 2 hours of smashing pumpkins is a bit too much smashing pumpkins for me. Overall I like this album, in small doses; the whole thing is too long.
Iconic album. I grew up in the 90s with a lot of alternative rock radio, and the singles from this are really evocative of those years for me. Sometimes I forget how much mid-90s MTV I watched. I'm unsure if I've ever listened to the full album before now - I know I didn't own it but I think a sibling might have. I went in optimistic. The singles hold up. But, the double album thing is genuinely frustrating. It's lucky this one came up on a Friday and I got a few days to get through it a few times. It starts with a bland, pointless instrumental - like it's giving me time to get to my seat and get settled ("Tonight, Tonight" even seems geared to work as an album opener so I don't know why it doesn't just start there). By the end of track 6 it's already hit most its truly great songs. Then the album just slogs on, and on, and on for little benefit. There are at most a couple tracks in the back hour and a half that rank better than okay (I like "1979"). So much of it sounds so similar. I think my tastes are becoming clearer to me, that I would much rather have a half-hour album that I can digest than a long journey with so much material that it still feels only vaguely familiar on a second or third listen. I went in thinking this might be a 5-star album. Maybe there is one here - just one that's sharing disc space with a pair of 2- or 3-star albums. I'm going to give it a 4 on the strength of the best parts, but in the middle of the black night of disc two I did feel tempted to go lower.
A rarity in that the double feels entirely earned. Its got an aesthetic. Chamberlain is truly a great drummer. The adolescence of it all is intentional, and works well with that voice, which in other contexts gets pretty annoying, but works here, and we can see why Iha's not the singer. Some more D'arcy backing vocals would have been cool, but really the production is rock solid and everything across a very broad variety of styles sounds pretty amazing. All the songs have reason to exist, a trait lacking in most albums, even most albums on this list.
I potentially can't be objective about this record because I loved it so dearly as a teenager. I expected to like it less, to cringe at Corgan's vocals — which I once read described as a "pinched larynx" — and be further put off by the Pumpkins' checkered latter discography. In the end, I was enchanted in an even deeper way by the poetry and heaviness. Mellon Collie is deeply indulgent in parts ("Porcelina Of The Vast Oceans," "X.Y.U.," "Lily (My One And Only)"), but is anchored by a staggering number of enduring hits ("Tonight, Tonight," "Zero," "Bullet With Butterfly Wings," "Thirty-Three," "1979") and strong deeper cuts ("Jellybelly," "Here Is No Why," "Thru The Eyes of Ruby").
Left it playing in the backround while working. I get Blind Melon and The Smashing Pumpkins confused so at first I was excited about the album, then realized, no, it's not who I thought it was. Then I read the review about Cartman and now I can unhear it LOL. and the "Despite all my rage..." line reminds me more of Weird Al's Alternative Polka than Bullet with Butterfly Wings. I don't hate the album but not something I'll listen to again.
Is this grunge? Probably and probably the Smashers best album.
9/10 I loved this album. Its ability to switch between metal and soft rock is remarkable. Favourite Song=1979 Least Favourite Song=Jellybelly
That’s a LOT of tracks, Billy
Listening to the CD tracklist: “Holy shit, this is way better than I remember it being. There’s a couple weird duds here and there, and it feels long, but I love the range and I think I just love The Smashing Pumpkins. Extremely high hit rate for 28 songs.” Listening to the original vinyl tracklist: “This is the greatest grunge album, the greatest double album, the greatest album ever made. Holy motherfucking shit. No skips, perfect flow, perfect runtime, perfect album.” The power of track order, people!!!
Absolutely insufferable voice to listen to. Quite decent instrumentals, but dear lord I am not going to listen to this mf whine for two hours Ynn
When I first looked at the track list and length of Mellon Collie, I thought some evil Spotify employee must be hiding the standard edition from me. Nope!!! This album’s long as hell. It was daunting to start the two-hour listen, but thankfully this album kicks ass! It’s a master at balance. The soft-and-dreamy and edgy-intense-despiteallmyrageIamstilljustaratinacage hang around for just the right amount of time before things start switching up again. The atmosphere really clicks, too. The instrumentals and Billy Corgan’s voice are like a peanut butter and honey sandwich. It’s all real good. Awesome album!
This is an all time great album from a seminal band from the 90s that maybe overstays its welcome by a few minutes. Billy Corgan is a chode, but the music is great!
I like the hits and the slow ones but not sure I get the heavy stuff.
Excellent album, but the second half drags on a bit IMO.
Not bad— kinda forgettable songs that fill up this long album though. A few of them are xrt standbys though which is a plus
Good fall album. Don’t think I’ve ever sat down and listened to it all the way through and I enjoyed it more than I expected.
Double albums rarely work. This album has some great songs on it but there are 28 tracks covering 2 hours, so there is lots of filler. An ode to no one is an example of that. This album had some beautiful moments. Mellon collie is a lovely instrumental and the album really kicks off with the fantastic tonight tonight. It was a strong opening but really dragged until track 14 take me down. Favourite song: tonight tonight. Least favourite: I was not a fan of zero or ode to no one. Album artwork: Creepy cover
It's a good album. The variety of styles/genres is honestly really incredible, especially since there isn't really a quality drop off, when they move away from a more comfortable rock sound. There are some real gems mixed throughout the album, too! Musically, his voice is pretty rough to listen to at times. When it gets really whiny/nasally, it's really hard to listen to and can ruin a few moments. The album is also just too long. There are albums that can justify a runtime 2 hours or more, usually albums with a longer story to tell. This is not one of those albums. There's no reason that this couldn't have been broken up into 2 albums. Favorite Song(s): Tonight, Tonight, Porcelina of the Vast Oceans, Take Me Down, 1979
3.5 stars, it’s a little long though
Beautiful, melodramatic, nostalgic, long. Everything.
to follow up Siamese dream with this incredible double album was quite impressive. Great production, great guitars, Billy really found his groove.
Cool rock album, very interesting melodies and sounds. I couldn't finish it yet but I look forward to hearing the next songs!
Pretty good rock
This was a tough one for me to get through. Took me almost a week. Everything about it is fine. I’m a big lyric person though, and I can’t understand 90% of the shit Billy Corgan is saying. I’ve heard 1979 a dillion times, and I only just not realized that I don’t know the damn words.
I love the Smashing Pumpkins, and most songs on here are good to great, but A: the guitar tone (and general production) feels like a drop-off from "Siamese Dream" and B: listening to 2 straight hours of Billy Corgan is kind of alot. If this set was edited down to two 45 minute LPS instead of one 2 hour double album, they'd both probably be 10/10. I'm giving this a 4 because 3 stars seems too low, but really this is like a 3.75
A uniquely majestic and gorgeous album. I like it even better now than I did in middle school. I don’t even care that it’s a double.
50% slightly obnoxious, 50% slightly enjoyable 3/5
This is what this website is for: reminding me to listen to albums that I absolutely adored in my youth, but which I haven’t listened to for a while. It’s a proper musical experience, I absolutely love this album.
IT was OK. More melodic, but it doesn't have a good rocker like Cherub Rock.
This is what you save your 5 star ratings for.
If they would have edited this down to a single disc, it's a 5. I appreciate them going for it on a double disc, 2 hour endeavor is too much. I found a lot of great songs outside of the radio hits I knew.
I listened to this one before and I was a bit overwhelmed. Really enjoyed it this time round
Cool album. Awful vocalist.
I wish I could give this 3.5. Parts of it I enjoyed. Parts of I did not enjoy. We'll call this a soft 4.
Really didnt age well for me
Teenage angst at it best
The Pumpkins' magnum opus. An absolute favorite album of mine that may be long, but one I will never tire of listening to time after time. This was the album that fully sold me on one of my now favorite bands of all time
Overall good songs. Some hit the mark a bit better than others. My only beef is that it’s a two hour long album…
Bloated? I suppose. Wildly creative? Yes. Packed with some of the finest alt-rock anthems? Totally. Is it a classic? I’d say so.
Classic
Classic from my teenage years
I'd agree with the reviews calling this a masterpiece if Billy Morgan wasn't such a shit singer
I love this album. It’s not perfect, with some nasally vocals and some songs that are a bit grating, but it flips from good hard rock to beautiful soft melodies quite successfully. There’s a lot of interesting musicality that makes the songs stick in my head.
Didn’t need to be a double album. Other than bullet with butterfly wings and 1979.. not as many memorable hits as the Siamese Dream
A classic of my youth. Billy Corgan showing his breadth beyond grunge/alternative but I’d be lying if I didn’t admit that a young me would end up skipping quite a few tracks back in the day. Still a cohesive album that takes you on a journey but imagine how tight this would be as a single album.
Despite all my rage, I still just in love with album. It’s not perfect, some tracks seem redundant. But the nostalgia is strong and some songs just well with emotions and continue to have impact on the music world.
Highlights: Here is no why, Bullet with butterfly wings, Fuck you (An ode to no one), Galapogos, Porcelina of the vast oceans, Bodies, X.Y.U., By Starlight -Although I wouldn't listen to every song on its own again, I feel like every track is good in the context of the album, maybe besides Tales of a Scorched Earth -The album is WAY too long, to the point that I can't really listen to it in one sitting while staying fully focused. -The album has an almost perfect ratio of calmer and more agressive songs, maybe a bit too many slower songs at the end. -At first I found the vocals kind of screechy and annoying, but after a bit I ended up really enjoying them. -Lyrics get overly edgy at times, but that's not a huge problem, it's grunge after all. -Overall, its length really hurts its score, I feel like a lot could've been cut to make it significantly shorter and give it a couple extra points. Rating: 6.2/10
so good…
good
Banger after banger holy shit.
Long. Way too long. The bangers were bangers, but a lot of it just felt like filler. Could have been 2 albums one succesful, and one not.
Way too long of an album. And I can't believe there were so many songs that were already cut! Why not just make multiple albums? Does the saying "throw enough wet paper at a wall and eventually something will stick" apply here? Sure there's some really good songs in here, some of their best singles (1979, for instance). But 2 hours for an album is absurd. Now... for my review. I can imagine if I were a teenager listening to this for the first time, I would probably absolutely love this album. The mixture of angst and sadness pretty much describes a lot of what teenagers are going through and also describes a lot of songs on this album. I loved the intro piano. I wish there were more songs like that, even with singing. In fact, a lot of the slower sections in this album are very well put together. There's a lot to like about this album, but the length of it is such a turn off, I just wanted it to end. 2/5
bruh mellon collie and the infinite sadness- 4 tonight tonight- 5 jellybelly- 4 zero- 6 here is no why- 4 bullet with butterfly wings- 4 or 5 to forgive-4 an ode to no one- 4 love- 4 cupid de locke- 5 or 6 galapogos- 4 muzzle- 4 porcelina of the vast oceans-3 take me down- 5 searching for someone who cares. favorite track- zero or cupid
How to rate Mellon Collie & The Infinite Double Album? There are some real standout tracks that I love. Then there are 18 to 20 more tracks that are fine at best. Lows don't quite fully outweigh the highs? But I'm not going to ever reach for this full album.
if you stuck to the hits and a handful of the other songs on here you'd have one of the tightest no skip albums of the 90s instead of a double album full of some of the most forgettable music of the decade
Way too whiny
This album was so so so SO long for no reason. The music wasn't nearly good enough to justify the length. It put me in a bad mood, and I ended up listening over the course of a few days. Would not recommend.
did not hold my attention for two hours but was less annoying than anticipated. 2.5
please no more double albums. there are 2 songs I enjoyed on here
this was one decent album worth of music followed by 1.5 more albums. one additional star for Tonight Tonight
Awareness of the Fall dates back to early 90’s listening to them on John Peel’s radio show on BBC international on my shortwave, but never explored further. Enjoyed this right away, and will be happy to dig further. Smith’s thing I am sure annoys some, but I was fine with it and the band was grooving.
A slow death by the 5th song.
This album was good just not for me
The overly scuzzy filter on a lot of songs makes this kind of an unpleasant listen on headphones but still good overall.
The opener was a Heavenly experience, then tonight tonight was so good, I repeated it like 10 times before moving on to the next song. The rest of the songs were just typical grunch until 1979 which was another fav of mine An album with great highs and just other bland songs
I have a copy of this one. It ebbs and flows, and some of the songs are great the rest are okay at best. Its pretty uneven to be honest. But it is the second best Pumpkins record and their last listenable one IMO.
It's a modern classic that helped define post-grunge and late-90s alternative is very much indebted to it. There's always a temptation to take a double album that has flaws and proclaim that 'if you cut out x and y, it's a perfect album' but that always feels like an insult to fans and artists alike. There's a reason and a place for all of this and it's a journey, albeit a long one, that deserves to be travelled in full. That said, this journey does sag in the second half and takes itself out of contention for a fifth star, from me. Is that fair, when it easily has ten or more tracks of 5-star quality? Well, if I'm going to appreciate the full journey for the journey's sake, then I can judge this journey to be a little too long and a little bit self-indulgent. The run on side one of cassette one (yes, this was an old Walkman favourite of mine) is absolutely ludicrous though. 1. Mellon Collie... 2. Tonight, Tonight 3. Jelly Belly 4. Zero 5. Here Is No Why 6. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
Pretty good but really dragged on
An album I’m really excited for! I was actually just reading about this a little bit ago. I really liked the orchestral opening and I think that gives it a grander feel. Of course I am also a fan of the more rock elements of the album too. There are several songs on here that I already know and enjoy so that does raise my overall appreciation. This is a LONG album - the longest I’ve listened to so far, with two hour-long halves. That isn’t necessarily bad, but it does make listening to it a bigger undertaking. Favorite song: “Tonight, Tonight” Best representation of the album: “Porcelina of the Vast Oceans”
The first disk is just immaculate. The second is just so much. Thats the problem with these double albums they just work you.
I like their sound. And with the hit-singles "Tonight, Tonight", "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" and especially "1979"‼ they had the basis for 40 mindblowing minutes. But a double album with almost two hours running time is a task much greater artists have already failed. And so have the Smashing Pumpkins for me too! One star down for not cutting it down to the (great) essence. 2,5
A grand opus to fulfill Billy's every wish and desire. The peak of Pumpkins but the beginning of their collapse.
Too long
for a first album to have a double album says a lot to me. There are those songs on there that I know from main stream but Im not really into his voice that much. The album is long when you don't care much about the sound.
Increíble. Lo mejor que hicieron y harán los Smashing Pumpkins. Un disco histórico, icónico.
The good of this album, I really liked it. When it was good it was great for me. There was a lot of mid to bad songs but that’s just my opinion and I don’t think they were unlistenable bad, just not my type bad. Regardless, I went in not knowing any songs or have listened to any previous album of theirs & came out pretty impressed. High 2, could’ve been a 3 but 2 is fair here.
Great double album with good amount of variety Also manages to be impressively pretty consistent despite feeling a bit long by the end
Just not for me.
This album is twice as long as it should have been. There are too many songs that add nothing but noise to it. Some good songs here but overall it is 2 stars or D+ for me.
Too long
**Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness** by The Smashing Pumpkins, released in 1995, is widely regarded as one of the defining albums of the 1990s. Spanning two discs with a total of 28 tracks, this ambitious double album showcases the band's exploration of a wide array of musical styles, emotional depth, and lyrical complexity. Produced by Billy Corgan, Flood, and Alan Moulder, the album cemented The Smashing Pumpkins as one of the era's most innovative rock bands. Below is an in-depth review focusing on the album’s lyrics, music, production, themes, and its overall influence, along with a balanced assessment of its pros and cons. ### **1. Lyrics** **Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness** is lyrically dense, often oscillating between youthful angst, existential musings, and delicate moments of reflection. Corgan’s lyrics, at times cryptic and emotionally charged, convey themes of love, alienation, despair, and fleeting moments of hope. The album opens with the instrumental title track, "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness," which sets a reflective tone before transitioning into “Tonight, Tonight,” a track filled with hope and grandeur. The lyrics in "Tonight, Tonight" express a deep longing for transcendence, with lines like *“Believe in me as I believe in you / Tonight, tonight.”* The sense of determination and promise gives the song a sweeping, almost cinematic quality. Corgan’s ability to juxtapose innocence with disillusionment is particularly evident in tracks like “1979,” where he reminisces about teenage years filled with “cool kids” and the reckless abandon of youth. The lyrics are both nostalgic and melancholic, encapsulating a bittersweet passage of time. On the darker end of the spectrum, tracks like "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" and "Zero" delve into themes of nihilism and frustration. The iconic line, *“Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage”* from “Bullet with Butterfly Wings” is a raw declaration of helplessness in the face of existential struggle. Meanwhile, “Zero” is a nihilistic anthem with its repetitive mantra, *“Emptiness is loneliness, and loneliness is cleanliness / And cleanliness is godliness, and God is empty just like me.”* Corgan channels feelings of alienation and self-destruction, making these songs powerful representations of emotional turmoil. While the lyrics can be beautifully poetic, they occasionally veer into self-indulgence, particularly in tracks like “Love” or “Tales of a Scorched Earth,” where the aggression sometimes overshadows lyrical clarity. ### **2. Music** Musically, **Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness** is a sprawling odyssey that traverses multiple genres, from alternative rock, dream pop, and shoegaze to heavy metal, progressive rock, and piano balladry. The album’s sheer breadth allows The Smashing Pumpkins to explore their sonic potential while offering listeners an eclectic experience. The production is dense, often layering guitars upon guitars, creating a lush yet occasionally overwhelming wall of sound. This is particularly evident in tracks like “Jellybelly” and “Tales of a Scorched Earth,” where the distorted guitar riffs dominate, pushing the boundaries of noise rock. Songs like “Here Is No Why” and “An Ode to No One” similarly blend intense guitars with grungy undertones, showing the band’s aggressive side. In contrast, songs like "Tonight, Tonight" are orchestral and grand, with lush string arrangements that elevate the track beyond standard rock conventions. The arrangement of strings, alongside the traditional rock instruments, creates an almost baroque-pop sound, lending the track an ethereal, cinematic quality. Similarly, “Porcelina of the Vast Oceans” starts as a slow burn before evolving into a majestic rock epic, blending progressive rock elements with atmospheric soundscapes. On the softer end of the spectrum, “Thirty-Three” and “In the Arms of Sleep” reveal a more introspective side, with acoustic guitars and subtle arrangements allowing Corgan’s vulnerable voice to shine. “Galapogos” is another standout, balancing dream-like sequences with powerful crescendos that evoke emotional intensity without overwhelming the listener. Despite the album’s richness in diversity, the sheer number of songs can sometimes make it feel bloated. While the sonic experimentation is commendable, some tracks like “We Only Come Out at Night” or “By Starlight” feel less essential, detracting from the overall flow of the album. ### **3. Production** The production of **Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness** was led by Flood, Alan Moulder, and Billy Corgan himself. Flood, known for his work with artists like U2 and Nine Inch Nails, brings a layered, almost industrial sound to some of the heavier tracks, while Moulder contributes a polished, shoegaze-inspired gloss to the more ethereal moments. One of the album’s greatest strengths lies in its contrasts. The production often juxtaposes heavy, distorted guitars with delicate, softer moments. For instance, “Tonight, Tonight” seamlessly transitions from orchestral bombast to moments of intimate quiet. Flood and Moulder’s influence can also be seen in the attention to detail—whether it’s the reverb-laden guitars on “1979” or the tight, punchy drums on “Zero,” the album is meticulously crafted to evoke a wide array of emotional landscapes. However, the production can also be overwhelming at times. The sheer density of the arrangements, especially on tracks like “X.Y.U.” and “Tales of a Scorched Earth,” may fatigue listeners who are not accustomed to such aggressive sonic layering. Corgan’s penchant for piling guitars and effects, while innovative, occasionally results in a lack of space within the music, making some songs feel claustrophobic. ### **4. Themes** At its core, **Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness** is an exploration of the human condition. The themes of the album oscillate between youth and mortality, hope and despair, love and loss. Corgan has described the album as a reflection on the cycle of life, from innocence to experience and ultimately, to death. The album’s first disc, **Dawn to Dusk**, deals more with themes of youthful exuberance, innocence, and the struggles of adolescence. Songs like “1979” and “Tonight, Tonight” capture this fleeting innocence, while darker tracks like “Bullet with Butterfly Wings” and “Zero” address feelings of anger and disillusionment. The second disc, **Twilight to Starlight**, delves into more existential territory, exploring themes of mortality and introspection. Tracks like “Thru the Eyes of Ruby” and “Farewell and Goodnight” deal with the fragility of life and love, offering a more mature, reflective outlook compared to the first disc’s angst-ridden narrative. An underlying theme throughout the album is the tension between hope and despair. While songs like “Tonight, Tonight” offer a sense of hope and optimism, others, like “Bodies” and “Tales of a Scorched Earth,” are suffused with nihilism and anger. This duality reflects the complexity of human emotions, making the album resonate on a deeply personal level for listeners. ### **5. Influence and Legacy** **Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness** is not only a commercial success, having debuted at number one on the Billboard 200, but also a cultural touchstone for the 1990s. It was released during a time when grunge was fading, and alternative rock was diversifying, and it helped to cement The Smashing Pumpkins as one of the decade's most important bands. The album’s wide-ranging sonic palette had a significant influence on alternative and rock music. Its blend of genres and willingness to experiment paved the way for other artists to push the boundaries of rock music. The combination of aggressive guitars with orchestral arrangements became a template for bands seeking to blend traditional rock elements with more avant-garde approaches. The lyrical themes of alienation, disillusionment, and existential reflection resonated deeply with Generation X, particularly those who were grappling with the emotional weight of growing up in an increasingly uncertain world. Songs like “1979” and “Bullet with Butterfly Wings” became anthems for a generation, with their blend of nostalgia, rebellion, and existential questioning. However, while **Mellon Collie**’s influence is undeniable, it also marked the beginning of the band's internal struggles. The pressure of creating such a monumental work took its toll on the band, leading to internal conflicts, lineup changes, and eventually a shift away from their signature sound in later albums. ### **6. Pros and Cons** #### **Pros:** - **Diversity of Sound:** The album’s genre-blending approach makes it a rich and varied listening experience, ranging from orchestral rock to grunge and metal. - **Emotional Depth:** Corgan’s introspective lyrics and the album’s exploration of complex emotional themes resonate with listeners on a personal level. - **Production Quality:** The lush, layered production creates a vast sonic landscape, balancing moments of aggression with delicate, introspective balladry. - **Cultural Impact:** The album is a landmark of 1990s alternative rock and influenced a wide array of artists across multiple genres. #### **Cons:** - **Overlong and Bloated:** At 28 tracks, the album can feel overwhelming and unfocused at times. Some tracks feel less essential and could have been trimmed to create a more cohesive experience. - **Self-Indulgence:** Corgan’s lyrical and musical excesses occasionally border on self-indulgence, which may alienate some listeners who prefer a more restrained approach. - **Production Overload:** While the dense production is often a strength, it can also be overwhelming, particularly on heavier tracks where the layering becomes excessive. ### **Conclusion** **Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness** is an ambitious, sprawling album that captures The Smashing Pumpkins at the peak of their creative powers. Its emotional depth, genre-blending experimentation, and expansive production make it a defining album of the 1990s. However, its length and occasional moments of self-indulgence prevent it from being a perfect album. Nevertheless, its influence on alternative rock and its enduring emotional resonance make it a monumental achievement in the world of music.
Incredible album with with an incredible ambience. Billy Corgan is a genius
# Album Name: Mellon Collie & the infinite sadness (OG vinyl) # Artist: Smashing Pumpkins # Rating: 3/5 # Comments: Side 1 & 2: Tonight tonight a song i remember from the 90s. I always enjoyed it if im honest. A very catchy song, good lyrics, great use of strings. Billys voice gets a bit whiney but its still a cracker. The drum beat suits the song to a T. This was the highlight of part 1 of the album for me. Which is a shame being so early on. The album (OG vinyl) started off very mellow. Acoustic driven. Then it hit "jellybelly" which turned it on its head and into more of a grunge sound. It was quite a 180 in sound and direction. I dont think it suited the flow of the album if im honest. The first disc followed this pattern flipping between an slower paced tune to a alt sound. Couple more decent songs on this part like 33, bodies and to forgive. Porcelina of vast ocean. Overall, lots of alright songs with one cracker but a strange mix of acoustic / alt / grunge. Not sure if it works that well for me. I had to take a break at this point. No way could i handle 2 hours in one sitting. Side 3 & 4: Bullet with butterfly wing, 1979, where boys fear to treat, we only come out at night and zero were the highlights of the 2nd side. Overall, this is a really long fucking album. Its the longest album ive ever heard. I found it quite infuriating. Why? Well because firstly, there is some genuinely good songs on here. Easily 5-6 that comes to mind straight away. But sadly there was just so many songs on the album which were average or should have been B-sides maybe. That plus the length brings the scoring down for me. If SP stripped most of the b-side material and kept the core songs from each album, maybe 10-12 tracks on the album, then this would have been a real classic. # Top Tunes: Tonight, tonight. Bullet with butterfly wing, 1979, where boys fear to treat, we only come out at night and zero were the highlights of the 2nd side. # Would I listen to it again? I wont listen to this in its entirety but i will come back to a streamlined playlist of my fav tracks off the album.
Una de las obras cúspide de los '90s. A pesar de que en su tiempo fue aceptada como una obra maestra del "grunge" (a pesar de que la música de Corgan estaba sumamente alejada de lo que Cobain proponía), en la actualidad el público general ha perdido cariño con este monolito de más de 2 horas. ¿Es un 5/5? No, es claramente demasiado largo y algunas ideas son sumamente repetitivas. ¿Merece menos que 4 estrellas? No, porque a pesar de todas las fallas que uno podría reclamar al disco, lograr mantener interesado a alguien por más de 2 horas es un logro de por sí. Corgan canta mal y es una persona insoportable; pero claramente algo lo iluminó en el estudio y su visión era clara. Escúchelo por favor.
After Prince's 70 min album yesterday, I was hoping for something shorter. Two hours later… Overall I very much enjoyed the medley of this double feature. I think I liked their non-metal songs a bit more, but the vibes were immaculate for the album. I have a slight preference for Disk One, but there's still a few from disk two I enjoyed. The final song from disk one, Take Me Down, was like the perfect end song. It felt like the song that plays over the credits of the final episode of an anime where two friends look back at their journey. Farewell and Goodbye, the end song of disk two, also was a great ending, but didn't evoke the same sense of reminiscing as Take Me Down. Albums with a wide selection of musical styles are the best, as I get to sample a little bit of everything, which is why I started this in the first place. Favs: Porcelina of the Vast Oceans, Thru The Eyes Of Ruby, Here Is No Why, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, Beautiful
It's me, not them.
Something for everybody! From prog to space to alterna to metal to softrock and back again. At over two hours and twenty-eight tracks, not every moment can be compelling, but it’s still chock full of melty goodness.
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First of all, clocking in at over 2h, this is really too long. I'm getting an album to listen to every 24h - this album is over a twelfth of that period! On my first play, I quite like this album. Whether it gets more plays depends on what I'm doing today! As far as I can tell, as a body of work it's pretty mediocre. Might have been better with a bit more quality control.
repeat listen, i like how many genres they cover in one album
Brought me back to my youth.
hated hated hated the lead singer's voice! instrumental is normally decent but occasionally it tries to emulate how fucking annoying the singer is by going off the wall too!! can't imagine why anyone enjoys listening to this bitch whine at them for hours---this album is two hours long!!! obviously not gonna listen to the deluxe edition because that shit is six entire interminable hours!!!! subjecting me to that would be a war crime!!!!! most tolerable track: We Only Come Out At Night
First song was awesome then got too heavy for my liking.
Exceptional
One of the best albums of the 90s, took the best out of the grunge movement and mixed it with the My Bloody Valentine to make a great album! Billy Corgan is at his absolute best with this album! As are Jimmy Chamberlin, James Iha, and D'arcy Wretzky, they got something special with this. There are no massive weak points during this album and the non-singles are just as good as the singles Tonight, Tonight, and Zero, have been the very high points of this album while being very different songs! You can see this album as a blueprint for a lot of new indie bands coming out now, especially for the likes of NewDad The one weakness is, that it is probably 4 or 5 songs too long, but I can always forgive that on a double album, it is rare you will find a double album that you feel isn't to long.
A whole lotta pumpkins!
Enjoyable for the most part, a bit shouty for me elsewhere.
Just not my jam.
One of my favs. Even though I don't revisit this record often, its definitely a formative album for me. I loved The Smashing Pumpkins when I was in middle school and even into High School. Despite how I might feel about later Smashing Pumpkins, this album will always be pure gold. Its all the bangers, its all the feels. Its also super long. It almost feels like Billy Corgan knew that it wouldn't get much better than this, so he put it all on one record. And maybe that's not totally fair, because there is a lot to say about Siamese Dreams and even Adore is pretty solid. But Mellon Collie is apex mountain for this band. Its the full spectrum of what this band can do. It's the feel epic emotional feelings of Tonight Tonight, the rage of Bullet with Butterfly Wings, the intensity of Zero, the vibes of 1979, the somber sadness of By Starlight and then it has all of the obscure avant garde kind of emo songs like We Only Come Out at Night. Its kind of everything packed into one (probably a bit too long?) epic album. I listened to the shit out of the record at one in my life. Its one that I can always find something that I vibe with at really any given time. If I was to give it any knocks, it'd be that there are maybe 4 or 5 too many songs. But either way, I'll turn this on and listen to the whole thing without skipping a song. A few of my favorites from this album (which is the majority of the songs): Side 1: *Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness -I love how this kind of sets the tone for the rest of the record. Its just short instrumental that invites you into the weird world of this album. *Tonight, Tonight -this song is perfect. Its all the feels. I love the strings in it. I love how it builds, and how Billy whispers then shouts throughout. *JellyBelly -I mostly love how this is where the album really turns up. This song is intense. Its heavy, its grungy. Its almost metal? *Zero -the perfect follow up. They keep the intensity up and send you on this epic, which is Zero. I love the guitar riffs, the solo always gets me stoked. But its the bridge that always makes me come back for more. *Here's to Why -sneaky good track in between 2 classics. The guitar solos really catch me off guard here. *Bullet With Butterfly Wings -what else can I say about this song? Was I teenage boy? Yes. This. Song. Fucks. *Ode to Love & Cupid De Locke -this is where side one starts to lull a bit, but these 2 songs are kind of the oasis in the desert here. Kind of palate cleansers. *Muzzle -this song is often overlooked, but the fuzzy guitars, the solos, the chorus just keep me alive. I love this one. *Porcelina of the Vast Ocean -another sneaky banger. Kind of sneaks up on you and draws you in. Its long, but if you endure by the end you're all in. Its almost like a Terrapin in that way. (Not saying it even touches Terrapin), but it kind of has that release in the back half to it. *Take Me Down -quite. sentimental. Great book end for side one. Side 2: *Thirty-Three -kind of the first song on side 2 that really connects with me. Its kind of that change of pace. Slow, emotional, thoughtful. Great shoegaze. *In the Arms of Sleep -I love how this kind of blends out of Thirty-Three and into 1979. This is the part of the side 2, that I really vibe with. *1979 -this freakin song. You know, I still don't really know even this song is about, but whenever its on I'm just filled with joy and nostalgia. But it's not necessarily nostalgia for this song, its the feeling of looking back and smiling. Which maybe that's what this song is about? Its just the feeling I get when I listen to it. It feels like looking at grainy photographs. *Thru the Eyes of Ruby -another one that is slow burn that eventually pulls you all the way into it. Soft and heavy at the same time. *Stumbeline -this damn song. So good. Makes you feel things. *We Only Come Out at Night -is maybe my favorite song on the whole album. Its so obscure, but it just keeps your attention throughout. It feels like a folk song, but its played on weird instruments. *Beautiful -such a great song. Good message, chill vibes. I think I love chill Smashing Pumpkins the most. *By Starlight -feels like the stripped down slower version of Tonight, Tonight. Absolutely beautiful. *Farewell & Goodnight -perfect ending to an album.
Billy Corgan is a vampire and nothing will convince me otherwise
The most irritating voice of the 90s that somehow made it work. My respects for pulling it but not something I particularly enjoy
Amazing first two songs then turned into something I did not enjoy
No way they got me listening to 2 hour long album good if you have a lot of free time
Good but daf
una puta obra maestra. 10/10
Me gusta más ahora que cuando lo escuché por primera vez. Uno de los pocos álbumes de 2 horas que he escuchado que siento que justifican esa duración. 9.5/10
Favourite album from my youth; still holds up.
Despite all the rage - pretty grungy.
Can see the appeal, but not for me.
It’s cool to see a double album that keeps a consistent quality all throughout. Every song ranges from okay to pretty good. I liked it but wasn’t blown away by it. An enjoyable listen but not much more than that.
So many awesome classics here, such creativity and diversity. For me it's all a bit much, though, and two hours of this tend to get long. Could have been a perfect single album, this way it is still great.
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness is the third album from the Smashing Pumpkins, and a 2 CD. 28 song release. The album includes a number of the band's hits, including "Tonight, Tonight," "1979," "Zero," and "Bullet with Butterfly Wings." The Smashing Pumpkins make distorted-guitar centered alt-rock that trends toward metal. Lead singer Billy Corgan's snarl is appropriate for his angst-ridden lyrics. The result is a sound that defined alt-rock of the 90s and made the Smashing Pumpkins one of the biggest bands of the era.
3.5 rounded down now why is this over two hours long….. docking points bc there was literally 0 reason for that whatsoever. get over urself highlights: zero, here is no why, cupid de locke, 1979, tales of a scorched earth (nov 1 2024)
LONG
Enjoyed
Couple bangers - got bored between
Tooooooooooo long Galapogos is great The slower more melodic stuff is the best stuff but it's good, great even Go for a FOUR
added a few songs to my playlist. Still way too long but I liked this one better than the other albums I've been given so far.
Very cool album. I think I actually prefer it to Siamese Dream. To be such a massive double album, there's really no duds in the track list. It's like a strong 8 compared to Siamese Dreams strong 7/light 8.
Albumi #34, 31.08.2024 Smashing Pumpkinsin mainio tuplalevy vuodelta 1995. Taisin olla armeijassa, kun levy ilmestyi, joten jäi alussa tosi vähälle kuuntelulle. Monta todella loistavaa kappaletta.
If there’s an album that truly captures the spirit of the mid-90s, this one is definitely at the top of the list. So much of the music from that era has worn out its welcome for me—I’d happily keep most of it buried. But The Smashing Pumpkins are the exception. Though they’re a quintessential 90s alternative band, they pulled in elements from nearly every facet of the culture back then. They had the grunge edge, hints of shoegaze and dream pop, a dark style that wasn’t quite goth, and even experimented with electronic music that was just beginning to make waves. This album is likely their most diverse, blending all of those elements into a single, cohesive work.
In the grand scheme of 90s rock, The Smashing Pumpkins are a band that admittedly I don’t listen to that often. I actually really enjoy their music too. At least when I really take the time to appreciate it. I’m glad I got the chance to talk about Siamese Dream first. It’s important to understand what the band went through during the recording process of that record and where it left them when the time came to start on this project. Thankfully the sessions here seem to have been a much more calm and balanced work effort. And I think that lack of tension is really felt. Something about the energy of this feels like a band just taking everything they are capable of and putting it all out there. But it’s also a lesson on why you don’t put all of your eggs in one basket. Because most Pumpkins fans will admit, this was basically it for the band. The members will admit that themselves. It was posed as a supposed “final album”. Creatively, they had reached the end. And so, they decided to create a gargantuan double album that puts the solid length of its predecessor to fucking shame. They swung for the fences and exhausted any and all ideas they had left. Which would unfortunately lead the rest of their albums from then on to feel stagnant. But what is here is nothing to scoff out. It’s very impressive, actually. To find a 2+ hour long album that I am not exhausted by is rare. But I will make the argument that this record contains more of the band’s most iconic work than Siamese Dream does. Almost the entire first disc, titled Dawn to Dusk, is fantastic, with very few low points. The second disc does also have some really solid material, like the beautiful 1979, but it also falls short in many places. You can almost see the progression of them loosing steam as this album goes along. It also feels like a remarkably better balanced album than the one before it. The softer, dream pop inspired bits of Siamese Dream weren’t anything to write home about, but they are turned up to 11 here. As a result, we get gems like Take Me Down, Cupid de Locke, and Tonight, Tonight. Additionally this contains some of the sludgiest, most crushing songs they’ve ever written. Zero, Jellybelly, Where Boys Fear to Tread, Bodies, and especially X.Y.U. prove just how brutal this band can be at its heaviest. Tales of a Scorched Earth would be amazing if the mixing wasn’t horrible. In many ways, this feels like a swan song of the best, and worst, parts of the band. Obviously, there was no death or retirement that followed this. But on a particular day, I’d be willing to say that this is better than Siamese Dream as a whole. Rating: 8/10
Some hits but I’m just not into them.
A lot that I love and a lot that I don’t. A 5-star single album spread too thin over 2 CDs.
Favorite Track: 1979 Would have been a 5 with less filler.
While there are some songs on here that I find nice in their sweep of sound and simple emotions (Tonight, 1979). It does not hold up through the rest of the album, the bulk of which feels like sonic and lyrical wallpaper. Lots of trite emotions that could use some prosaic specificity to balance things out.
Just all round a bit too much of everything going on to enjoy it
Will come back for a few of these. Two hours is way too long.
It’d be nearly impossible to make an album this long that didn’t feel bloated. There are great songs on here but a lot of dross, and all that heaviness and melancholy starts to suffocate. If they’d cut out 15 songs this could have been a 5. Everyone needs an editor.
Finally got around to this and Im so glad I didnt skip. This is an incredible work of alt rock and may well be in the top 20 alt rock albums ever. A good mix of mega hits, deep cuts that sound as good as the hits and random screamo that keeps you guessing I know some folks hate Corgan, but he’s admirable as a song writer. So much material and this is his best
Liked this more than I expected. Their hits were hits for a reason. Billy Corgan’s voice is so annoying that I like it, and I love the melodramatic tone of some of these. But docking a full star for length and some duds along the way
Disc one was pretty close to a 5 for me, loved almost all of it, such great blend of loud and soft tunes. Loved Muzzle and the singles. Disc 2 felt like much more of a drag and didn’t really hit its stride as much. Plan to return to this one though, as there seems to be more here. Listened to this one live from their hometown of Chicago!
Great album - one that has past me by since it first came out. Good to revisit it.
Big album that never felt like it was too long. Another that is nostalgia-laden for sure, but no denying the artistry here.
Classic old school rock with good breakdowns and solid drums
Great album start to finish.
Christ but it's long. Even the title is long. Too long. Nobody needs a 2 hour + double CD on a list like this, i don't care how many it sold. But is it any good? Mostly. The singles are fine, if a bit pretentious: grunge tending to generic rock. Well, so are the non-singles, despite Wikipedia's insistence on the variety of styles. What this really is, is an album for playing on long (in UK terms) drives.
Really enjoyed listening to this band again - I had forgotten how much I like them. Galapogos is such a great track: perfect vocals, lyrics and mood. As is 1979. And To Forgive. Stumbleine (very Elliott Smith). Actually, a lot of this is very good indeed. And surely one of the best album titles ever! I think the album is too long, so one star lost. But I really enjoyed rediscovering this band, and will definitely be listening again.
My wonderful wife bought this on CD as a gift many years ago. Listening again takes me back and I feel the same about it now as I did then. Around a dozen tracks are wonderful and if they were the album it would be up there with Automatic For The People, Doolittle and Nerrmibd as my favourite from American bands of that era. The only issue is the heavier tracks don't really do anything for me. That said the opening instrumental, 'Tonight Tonight', 'In The Arms of Sleep', '1979', 'Cupid De Locke', 'Galapogus', 'Stumbleine' and the last 5 tracks are magnificent! There you go, a perfect 12 track album among the 28 :)
What a rich and soothing sound this album has in places! I once read that The Smashing Pumpkins capture nostalgia through instrumentals like no one else, and that is definitely true with songs like 1979. My favourite on this album was actually a track that I am unfamiliar with - Galapagos. What an amazing tune!! A little oversized, hence the 4, but a great listen which put some songs in my rotation.
This was great. Quite a long album but I put it in the background when I was gaming with the boys after a busy day (attempting the Der Eisendrache EE on BO3 Zombies) and it made for a fitting soundtrack. I already knew a few of the bigger singles but the tracks in between were good too. Favourite track: 1979
Bit long but, hey...
One thing I've learned is that if you want to ruin a perfectly good album, make it a double album.
"Zero" has great lyrics and "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" is iconic. This album def has a place in 90's grunge, with the unmistakable nasely squeaky voice of Billy. It's a long album, and I don't want to put myself through that again. It was a bit much. As far as enjoyment level, 2 star.
A bit too long - its OK
Only two days after my last Pumpkins album I got this epic two-hour long entry. I wasn't a fan of Siamese Dream, proclaiming Billy's voice to be whiny and their guitar sounds to be obnoxiously fuzzy. While those two facts remained true throughout the course of Mellon Collie, I did think the song quality increased by a notch, so I'm giving this a star higher than Siamese.
Blooooooooooaaaaatttttteeeeeddddd
die erste songs seeehr seicht, ich glaub sie wönd e ernsti gschicht verzelle. jellybelly seeehr 90s alt rock goddamnit kurt. here is no why isch reeecht geil s solo slaaappt. bullet with butterfly wings isch nöd available anschinend ok wenner dumm tönd unds nöd uf qobuz lönd losis nöd. bi jetz bi love und de shit isch scho kreativ as hell ich checks. bin bi muzzke und respektiers immerno mega und finds guet und alles aber dur d längi vom album gibi de einzelne songs vieeel weniger ufmerksamkeit. s verschwimmt alles chli zu eim alt-rock mues. porcelina isch etz no cool gsi halt 5 songs i eim. aber ischmer scho gnueg POAHRCELIIHNAAA rüefe. bodies het mi chli ufgregt, chli viel noise für mich. thirty three osch cuute. 1979 au, cooli sounds. s ganze isch mer chli sehr teenage angst. tales of a scorched earth isch sochli noisy metal oköy mached i guess. jo aso finds etz sehr noisy stumbleine okay. nöd meh. X.Y.U. goht au 6 minute oder so. cooool. dezue tönter meistens wie en hässige teenager. sie chömed nur ide nacht use i guess? schad. song isch sicher en song. bruchtsen? ischer essenziell fürd musiggschicht? ha gnueg vo dem album. es isch seehr guet aber joooo ich ha hüt so viel smashing pumpkins glost fuuuuck. kei lied under vier minute gfühlt. lily my one and only okay. ich check scho nöd wie schribsch so viel lieder?? aso bisch afoch voll alles wo der in sinn chunt am ufschribe? scho beidruckend. farewell and goodnight okay endlich. ich gspür würklich nüme viel, bi so albe findi dörftmer mehreri täg haa. würkli z lang. gspür au gaaar nüt meh. wenn da eine vo 10 songs wär hetti vlt freud dra well er isch eignentli schön. glaub ich chan kei vieri geh au wenns mega gueti teil het, ha mi meh ufgregt drüber wiviel ich no mues lose. und am schluss ischs scho meh okay songs als mega geili.
bi 2h het das hoffentlich paar bangers s isntrumentalintro cute tonight tonight isch eig na cool, aber isch sini stimm scho bim andere album so nervig gsi? uhh jellybelly git chli gäse SEHR geil, de rest isch denn nümme soo krass aber jo hans gfühl da passt sini stimm auchli besser zero kenni glaub? so oder so sehr geil hahaha sie hend 30 lieder no cuttet vom album?? here is no why naja, d chords im refrain sind na cool hahaha zum glück sind gitarre nur bizli distorted to forgive git eim mal chli platz zum schnufe, di ganz atmosphäre gfalltmer sehr jz wieder meh pace mit ode to no one, finds recht cool cupid de locke sehr funny, au wenn chli nervig galapogos heter huere nasali stimm hahahaha gfalltmer aber no, mengisch bauet gitarre bass und giti uuf, ohni sich z "entlade, sondern es gaht wieder in gmüetlichere teil 9EHALBMINUTE take me down auno schön where boys fwar to tread sehr pathetisch iwie thirty three au rechr langwilig, wie au in the arms of sleep ok ja 1979 kenntmer glaub finds aber nöd unglaublich spannend scorched earth chli wie nirvana am ahfang? hett das musikalisch ko cool gfundr aber sini stimm isch hert ufd eier gange wiso um alles ide welt isch thru the eyes of ruby 7:30 lang, das hets nöd verdient und bringt 0 mehrwert x.y.u. erinneret mich chli ah korn iwie? mite komische mischig vo schreie und singe und de tempowechsel (korn wär eifach namal 5 mal weirder) ja wieder ähnlich, musikalisch findis eig na geil aber nach spötistens 5 min chönnts mal fertig sii furzbeat?? we only come out at night kinda funny BRUDER CHAN WIEDERMAL ÖPPIS PASSIERE ja also die erst hälfti hetmer exht über wiiti streckene gfalle. die zweit het 60% straight filler wo us irgeme grund 7 min gönd und 40% lieder, wo imene normale album als de "experimentelli usrisser" gulte hettet (so s drittletschte lied)
Like a 7.5, felt repetitive at some points even though it is a double album
First time listening - pretty good transitional album of early 90's as rock tried to figure out what to be.
was enjoying the first couple of tracks then was hit with some crappy 80s heavy metal boring shit. A couple of really good tracks but too much crap
To Forgive save me X U idk smth was the best song Yes, done, too long so probably wont listen again in a long time tho need to look up some lyrics
This album feels like it was almost perfect for me, featuring some of my favourite genres, including Alternative Rock and Metal all in one, with some calming tracks which are quieter throughout to give your ears a bit of a rest. It is the first album I'll be giving 5 stars out of 5, because I truly enjoyed it from the moment I started listening it to the moment I finished it, being 2 hours long works in this double album's strength so well. I loved many of the tracks in this album, but my three favourites were Zero, X.Y.U and An Ode To No One.
Reilu kaksi viikkoa siinä meni että taistelin tämän loppuun. Huhhu, ei enää koskaan.
Disclaimer: I rated Siamese Dream at 5/5 and I really love it. It managed what this record fails to do: deliver good music and shut up. I feel like Billy really believed he's something else and tried to make himself a monument. He failed, this sucks (with a few exceptions such as 1979). I have the comfort of having English as my second language so I can just tune out and not listen to the horrible, horrible lyrics. Otherwise, I'd have probably rated it at 1/5. I feel like the people I respect rating it at 5/5 are only doing it because of nostalgia, there's no way someone actually enjoys it front to back.
Fairly heavy guitars and vocals
the chorus of by starlight sounds like he's saying "dat ass"
Das Großwerk der Pumpkins.
I LITERALLY JUST LISTENED TO THIS ALBUM. I decided to start what I call the "Mega Album Mini Project" where I listen to every album on the list that's over 2 hours throughout the end of Summer so I don't have to listen to them after a long day of school or something. I started with this one because it's the shortest of the collection. I LITERALLY LISTENED TO THIS OVER THE PAST TWO DAYS. Of course, I'm not going to listen to it again, even though it's a good album. So here's the review that I wrote yesterday (as of when this review is being uploaded). Wow. That was something. This is a great album right here. I'll start by addressing something very important right off the bat. This album is very long. There's a reason why I listened to this and 2+ hour albums when I had the free time in the summer instead of just waiting for the generator to give them to me. However, the 2 hours of runtime are not wasted in Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness. There's a good variety in this album. Some songs are heavier and more aggressive, while others are more ballad-like than anything. These two styles come together to form a complex album with complex themes that get explored quite well. The sound, regardless of if it's heavy or light, is pretty good. The instruments sound cool. The vocals on the other hand are something to get used to. Billy Corgan's vocals are certainly interesting. They're the kind of thing that needs to grow on you as you listen. Fortunately, I'd say they kind of grew on me. Not fully, but enough to say that I can defend his singing. It fits the themes of the album. The writing is great. There isn't a clear story here, but you can catch glimpses of general themes like relationships and adolescence. Overall, while this is certainly a daunting listen, I'd say it's worth it for any alt-rock fan. I never knew the Smashing Pumpkins were this good. High 4/5.
Gorgeous
hell YEAH
Totally bloated. The good songs are all diluted by forgettable ones. The singer has great clean vocals and amazing screams, but instead chooses to sing in this zone between the two that just comes out as nasally and is very difficult to take seriously.
This was great. So much Pumpkins flavor, really enjoyed it. A lot of variety in the style and feel of the tracks, but then again, there are 28 of them, so it would be incredibly boring if they were all the same. Long album, but worth it. Four stars.
Probably a little too long, so I'll ding it a bit to a 4.5, but a couple standouts to me are Zero, Bullet with Butterfly Wings, and Porcelina.
I love so much of this album. On paper I should hate this: it's really long and indulgent and if we're being honest Billy isn't the greatest singer, but there's certainly a charm to his style. I'm going to cheat and give this a 5 because the highs on this album are so high sure there's a couple songs that don't really blow me away but I think it's a super important album and it certainly has a special place in my heart.
Gear: Hifiman Arya Artwork: ⭐🪐💃🏻 Mix (2012 Remaster): 🧏♂️📏💩 Musik: 🎭✨⏳ Wertung: ⭐⭐⭐⭐/5 (inkl. -1 für Mix 😩)
• i love many of the songs from this album, but i have never bothered to listen to the album in full • don't understand how they can be so versatile. one beautiful, mellow song can seamlessly transition to an upbeat rock song • listening from like 6am so this is a peaceful experience • i definitely appreciate the remastering as a headphones user • some of the songs are forgettable and sound the same to me (which isn't necessarily a bad thing) • wanna rate it like a 3.7 but ill round up to a 4
Greatly enjoyed this one. I was actually planning on listening to this today anyways as I recently listened to and loved Siamese Dreams. Compared to that album, this one was much more diverse overall which is fairly impressive considering SD already covered a pretty wide range of moods. This album covers both moods and sounds. You have art rock, shoegaze, alt rock, and even a little metal stuff going on on this thing. The diversity is certainly a good thing, however, considering its massive length. The length is probably one thing I’m not crazy about with this thing. I throughly enjoyed the first album. Honestly, this might be the first double album I’ve heard where I’ve actually felt like either album can be listened on their own. I listened to both back to back but each one felt self contained enough to be great on its own but came together well too. Listening to them back to back does leave me wondering how I actually feel about the second album. I was enjoying it a bit less than the first but that might have just been because the fatigue was setting in. Idk I certainly am not a fan of more aggressive stuff unless I’m really in the mood so that could also be it. I will probably return to each album on its own at a later date both because I enjoyed them both so much and because I want to test the fatigued idea. Anyways, this was a great time. Just consistently great instrumentals and performances. Prefer SD at this point in time but this was really awesome.
This record is a monster. I love it. Maybe some filler ans it is an 2 hour record, but all part of a story quite honestly I never bothered to try and really learn about. 1979 is a truly outstanding song that even my kids love. The drummer is fun to focus on - talented dude. Ok so did some reading and it’s not really meant to have a story, more just like the entrance of emotions a kid can go through in a day.
Formative years album for me. Middle school, Alison koleszar, looking up lyrics to memorize them. I didn’t love all the heavy metal songs but adored the melodic and emotional tunes.
I owned this album in my teens and of course liked some of the songs, but was also repulsed by the intensity of some of the music and lyrics. Like, it was too much. Now, much older and more capable of riding the emotional waves, I find this a breath of fresh air in the AI / TikTok - everything sounds the same - era. The remix sounds good, the music is good but not revolutionary, but the lyrics and song writing are top notch.
3.5. First heard 1979 while shwasted in the back seat of a convertible, which was amazing, but man, his voice is so grating
Long album, so I can't say every song stood out all that much to me, but I definitely liked this.
One thing this album has going for me is that it reminded me of one of my favorite song mashups of all time. Check out Neil Cicierega - Mullet with Butterfly Wings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRdSoZO-5mM Aside from that, it's fine.
Wow. Sprawling in style and length. Ruminations on life, love, and loss. This is the expansive world of mid-90s alternative. I've known Bullet with Butterfly Wings since I was a teenager, but this album is so much more. Killer! Saved Songs: - Tonight Tonight - Bullet with Butterfly Wings - Cupid de Locke - Muzzle - 1979 - Through the Eyes of Ruby - Strumbeline - Lily (My One and Only)
The Smashing Pumkins deliver a lot here. However, I'm ambivalent as to whether it really had to be 2 hours on two double CDs. The “album” contains pretty much all the band's the hits, is stylistically varied, and yet remains thematically true to itself. It is probably their magnum opus. Nevertheless, the singer's voice has the inverse effect of getting used to something (it gets weirder over time) and the melancholic style becomes boring after a while, which means that large parts of the album were just background noise for me.
Really great!
I have a funny relationship with the Pumpkins - I love some songs, and there are a couple on here, but much is a low growl from which great music on occasion energes.
2,5
Smashing Pumpkins deserve more praise, they’re fantastic. Diverse and expressive.
This is a hard rate. Certain songs are so so good. But then getting through the full 2 hours felt like a lot… so I’m going right down the middle
I like it. Would i buy it and listen on repeat? No. But it had my head bopping sometimes, and i think sometimes thats pretty important. It's two hours long, so its giving taylor swift if she turned grunge. I love the cover album i think its so cool. It's not my favorite but i can appreciate. favs: -Galapagos for sure - I have others but eh. Some songs are a skip for sure he’s just wailing into the microphone. Otherwise are quite beautiful
Some really iconic writing, but then 2/3s feels like B side filler.
I will be waging a war against all bands from the 90s with whiny lead singers.
My favorite band of all time. Love em or hate em. For me, it was love at first listen. Billy’s lyrics, his passion to always do something different and great, Jimmy’s drums, the softness, the heaviness, the rage, the art…it all works for me. This album is a masterpiece. It’s all different and beautiful. They are odd, and that’s what makes them legendary.
This album has some of the classic Smashing Pumpkins hits, but at the length, there’s just no glue holding it all together. I don’t care much for the band to begin with, but I do respect their career.
Some bangers, but too much filler
Could have been a 3 but it's just too damn long
didn't realise how much of this album i already knew, it's a nice mix of sounds
Its a lot but some bangers
Some of these songs are iconic from my youth/early adulthood. Corrigan’s voice can get a bit annoying at times, though, whiney even. There are some very well written songs on here though. But I don’t think a double album was necessary. I feel like there was one solid album, possibly three sides would’ve been good, but they just filled in with other stuff to make a full four sides. That kind of waters the whole thing down for me. Corrigan’s arrogance never sat well with me, either, so that kind of taints my enjoyment of anything Pumpkins.
este disco es todo un ride, pero muy enjoyable. billy kills it, y musicalmente es muy variado. clasicazo
Why are so many albums on this list OVER TWO HOURS long????
Why is this album so long? It is too much. I like the softer and melodic songs on this album, and did not like the dark grungy songs. But also, I would have liked it more if it wasn't this long!!!!
Sounds like riding around in Uffy’s Celebrity in high school.
Why oh why is this so long? Why is it so revered? Why does every good song (of which there are a few) get immediately followed by a horrible stinker? The good songs, such as 1979 and By Starlight are really, really great. But it's 28 songs long and on a lot of them Corgan just ruins everything like a skinny, pompous Mr Blobby.
A bit of a shame this - I love the Pumpkins, and I was excited to get this album. Then I saw that it was 2+hours long, which made me lose my enthusiasm for it! If this were just for disk 1, it would be an easy 4 - I love how even amongst all of the weird, against-the-grain music that was coming out of the 90s, TSP have such a distinct sound and feel. I just can't get behind the volume of music that was recorded for this release. Soz!
I bet those praising this only ever spin the highlights anyway and skip the tedious muddy gunk that makes up 80% of the album. It definitely has higher highs than 'Siamese Dream' and does not quite reach the levels of utterly annoying as that album. But it still suffers from the very same issues, Corgan being an insufferable presence lyrically and vocally, writing being uneven at best and monotonous at worst, the runtime being longer than dying from blood loss and about as pleasant.
I find Billy Corgan's voice a bit grating but a lot of these songs really slap.
No
What a load of c**p. The cover is the best thing about it.
Great album! Double album wow! I think i listened a while ago. Could go for another listen, a lot to take in
Jeg synes den her er rimelig top-heavy mht. bangers - simpelthen for vanvittigt lægge måske det bedste nummer fra 90'erne (Tonight Tonight) så tidligt, you gotta make em wait for it!! Når det så er sagt synes jeg alle arrangementerne er virkelig smukke og hænger rigtig godt sammen. Billy Corgans stemme er en riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimelig acquired taste vil jeg sige, men den passer rigtig godt til musikken
Det er nok lidt besides the point at diskutere om den her BEHØVEDE at være 2 timer lang, men kæft de har styr på nogen genrer her! Det var fedt det meste af tiden! Har ingen anelse om hvad det handlede om.
Virkelig mange gode numre - Svært at vælge mellem 4 / 5 stjerner. Alle "klassikerne" er godt spredt ud over hele pladen, men de andre sange er også fede!
Masterpiece.
not for me. the music is fine but billy corgan's voice grates. and also the music is something way too melodramatic too
I liked this album a lot. I do think it was quite long and could have done better in my review if it were cut down more to the essential songs.
Somehow I didn't know this was a double album. Lots of bangers, still too long.
A defining album at the time. While there are some great songs scattered throughout, as a whole the album is a way too long and has an erratic flow of emotions that feel incoherent next to each other.
Classic
Even though it's a little bloated, there's still plenty of bangers here
The most annoying voice on the planet but somehow it still works
This was peak Smashing Pumpkins for me. I was not a huge fan of most of their stuff before or after, but this one hit the spot for my taste.
I had forgotten how good this was.
I'm glad I finally listened to one of their albums, because you like them.
Puffffffff... Tiene cosas buenas y me ha llegado a gustar el primer CD, pero es MUY largo. Al final del segundo estaba casi exhausto.
Would probably make a cracking single album. Some classic Pumpkins riffs and songs surrounded by to much self indulgent bullshit
That was incredibly tough to get through. Overly long and a bit pompous. Not for me at all.
listened to again bumped 1/2 star, actually pretty great tho it's all over
I know this album inside out and back to front. I bought this album when it first came out, already being a fan of Siamese Dream. I remember my first listen. I thought I knew what I was in for, but was blown away from the very first song. With all that said, not all tracks on this are top tier (although they're still good), and I understand some people find Billy's voice grating. Maybe it's just nostalgia, or from listening so many times, but this is an easy 5 star for me.
I enjoyed a lot of it, but man is this album long. I struggle with ones this long, I enjoyed many of the songs but lost the plot at times
It was ok. Was excited to hear it and did not live up to expectations
Wowza. Wasn’t sure I’d be able to listen to a 2 hour album atm but nope made time and it was so nice to this while sitting by the water. I started reading while listening, and then a fourth through the album I stopped reading and just was listening. I definitely think the first disc was better than disc 2, although there were still plenty of great songs in the second half. I’m between rating this a 4 and a 5….because so many songs are just so lovely (a handful I knew already yayyyy), but there are also a handful that I didn’t LOVE. But that’s a small handful. 90% gorgeous.
stone cold classic. liked the back half of disc 2 even better this time through. understands the totality of childhood/teenage experience more than a lot of go-tos, down to the edgelording. no reason a 4xlp should be this listenable.
Hadn't really listened to a full album from TSP, but enjoyed this one. There are some really great tracks and high-energy songs. I'll definitely return to their music more down the road.
I enjoyed a lot of it, don't get me wrong, but if it had been half the length I still would have enjoyed it just as much.
Queen Elizabeth and her Billy Corgies
Love this album. Not quite as much as Siamese Dream, but it has a good variety and some of my favorites. Still, for me it’s a 4.5+
Tough, raw and catchy. Great album!
I’d never listened to a Smashing Pumpkins album from start to finish until I started this project. I’m very familiar with their singles, but listening to Siamese Dream late last year was the first time I’d listened to one of their albums. Siamese Dream blew me away, and has been one of my favorite albums from this project. I have really high expectations for Mellon Collie, since it has my favorite Smashing Pumpkins song, “1979” (“Tonight, Tonight” is a close second). Mellon Collie managed to completely live up to my expectations. I was blown away by its wonderful guitar playing, brilliant string arrangements, and great songwriting. A lot of the double albums that I’ve reviewed have fallen a bit short with me, often because they’re just too much. However, Mellon Collie was able to hit the mark of its big ambitions. The album really did a fantastic job of keeping in line with its darker themes of sadness that were woven throughout the songs. Sadness is such a broad emotion, and I loved how sadness was explored through other themes of loneliness, disillusionment, and anger. Dawn to Dusk was my favorite part of the album. I loved the orchestral instrumental that kicked off the album, and it segued beautifully into “Tonight, Tonight.” “Tonight, Tonight” is such a beautiful song, and I love its sweeping string arrangements and precise drumming. “Jelly Belly” shifts this part of the album into more hard rock influences, but the beauty in the arrangements is still there. I love the fuzzy guitar sounds that take over on the songs that have more hard rock influences; it’s the perfect blend of hard rock and shoegaze. “Love” was probably my favorite discovery on this first half of the album. I absolutely loved the guitar playing, and the keyboards or maybe autoharp that were on this song were fantastic as well. Dawn to Dusk was just beautiful from start to finish, and I absolutely loved it. I didn’t enjoy Twilight to Starlight as much, but it didn’t take away from my overall enjoyment of the album. This part of the album featured more songs that were stripped down and slower, but they were just as beautiful.. “1979” is still my favorite Smashing Pumpkins song. I love that it features acoustic guitar, but there are still some other instruments that round out the sound of the song really well. “Thru The Eyes of Ruby” was my favorite discovery on this part of the album. The guitar playing was fantastic, and I loved the ebb and flow of the tempo. My favorite thing about Smashing Pumpkins’ music is that there’s so much to take in. The main guitar melodies and strings are aways great, but there are so many little sounds sprinkled throughout their work that makes their music so enjoyable and rich. Mellon Collie was fantastic from start to finish, and I really loved it. I’ve always enjoyed Smashing Pumpkins’ music, but I now have an appreciation for their albums as a whole.
This was hard to rate. Don’t like Billy Corgan and the album was really, really long…..but some really killer tracks on it
Another one I own on vinyl, and it just so happens to be my birthday, I know how I'm celebrating!
01) Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness - 6,5 02) Tonight, Tonight - 10,0 03) Jellybelly - 6,0 04) Zero - 6,5 05) Here Is No Why - 7,0 06) Bullet with Butterfly Wings - 10,0 07) To Forgive - 7,0 08) Fuck You (An Ode to No One) - 6,5 09) Love - 7,0 10) Cupid de Locke - 7,5 11) Galapogos - 8,0 12) Muzzle - 7,5 13) Porcelina of the Vast Oceans - 7,0 14) Take Me Down - 8,5 15) Where Boys Fear to Tread - 7,0 16) Bodies - 6,5 17) Thirty-Three - 7,5 18) In the Arms of Sleep - 8,0 19) 1979 - 10,0 20) Tales of a Scorched Earth - 5,0 21) Thru the Eyes of Ruby - 6,5 22) Stumbleine - 7,0 23) X.Y.U. - 6,0 24) We Only Come Out at Night - 7,5 25) Beautiful - 7,0 26) Lily (My One and Only) - 6,5 27) By Starlight - 7,0 28) Farewell and Goodnight - 7,0 TOTAL: 7,27 (73/100) Current ranking: 137/226 Tonight (tonight) the Smashing Pumpkins are performing at the InMusic festival, which I used to go to, but I wasn't attracted to the performers this year, so I decided to skip it this year. And as if this generator knew that, it assigned me their most popular album on this very day. "Tonight, Tonight", "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" and "1979" are familiar to me, moreover "1979" is one of my favorite songs from my teenage days considering the approximate year of my birth :-) Except for "1979" I wasn't really Smashing Pumpkins fan, I've never listened to this way too long album, so let's give it a go. Basically, this double album has everything. From very good, usually lighter songs, to harder stuff with terrible vocals and almost unlistenable screaming. I didn't regret not listening to them tonight (tonight). These two hours were too much for me anyway.
Rock, 1995 -> 2
so good i love you 90s rock
2.64
I was looking forward to this album as it had been so long since I listened to some Smashing Pumpkins. The first couple of tracks were great but VERY soon I realised how irritating Billy Corgans voice is. I also realised how try-hard the lyrics are, they are like a year 9 students first attempt at poetry, just juvenile rhyming angst. lol. My other big complaint is that the album is over 2 hours in length, which is just too much whinging to listen to in a single session. I loved the little bits of nostalgia that surfaced between Billy's pretend singing moans. Reading a bit about him, he also sounds like a bit of a narcissistic dick, although I'm sure this is a requirement for famous emo dudes. I love that 7 years ago Billy Corgan anounced that he "hates everything except for David Bowie." Nice one Billy, all is forgiven :-)
There are a few songs I love on this album (Zero, Thirty-three, Bullet with butterfly wings, 1979 and Tonight tonight) - but most of the rest I could skip! The album is bloated and pretty insufferable at times (not unlike Billy Corgan) - but I'm still giving it a 4 because there's enough good stuff going on here that'll come back for - I have a soft spot for alternative rock of the mid 90s so there's a least 1 nostalgia point here! Wanna go for a ride?
Well the sadness definitely feels infinite. This album is tooooooooooooo long. Some people may disagree, but while there are some all time great songs here, there is also at least 30 minutes of absolute filler. Best Songs: Tonight Tonight, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, 1979, Farewell And Goodnight Worst Songs: Where Boys Fear To Tread, Bodies, Tales Of A Scorched Earth
I do not get the appeal of this album at all. A 2 hour 2 disc snore fest and some of the worst singing I've heard. Not a fan of Smashing Pumpkins, even their big hit off this album "Bullet With The Butterfly Wings" is disappointing. I can't give it a one star cause it's not as bad as other albums I've given one star on this list but man does this suck.
🎧This album is 2 hours long. Much of it is whiny crap. Much of it is just plain boring. Here Is No Why and Bullet With Butterfly Wings are terrific songs. Shame Billy Corgan couldn’t trim the fat, there’s probably a halfway decent record in here.
Fin dai primi minuti ho sentito qualcosa “cliccare” in me. Nonostante in precedenza io mi sia imbattuta negli Smashing Pumpkins solo in rare occasioni, ascoltando questo album ho percepito una certa familiarità, come se mi trovassi nel posto giusto. Il modo migliore per descriverlo a cui riesco a pensare è: un continuo susseguirsi di schiaffi e carezze (ma nel miglior modo possibile). Ho adorato sia i brani più “heavy” e grunge che quelli più delicati, passando dagli aspetti più genuini a quei dettagli deliziosamente pretenziosi disseminati qua e là (dato il mio trascorso adolescenziale da “I’m not like other girls” girl, non posso che apprezzare). In più, vogliamo parlare della bellezza della copertina? Però. Però. Ragazzi, le due ore di ascolto si fanno sentire. È vero che da un lato questa lunghezza notevole è il riflesso di una creatività travolgente, ma dall’altro rende il primo impatto con l’album sicuramente più faticoso. Confido nel fatto che ascolti successivi rendano il tutto più digeribile (Taylor, I see you). Detto questo, mettendo su una bilancia sia gli aspetti che ho apprezzato (che sono tanti) e quelli che hanno reso l’ascolto un po’ più difficoltoso, direi che la mia valutazione può assestarsi su un 4/5. Sono sicura che se fossi stata un’adolescente degli anni ‘90 avrei fatto di questo album un vessillo.
Il 3 più 3 che si sia mai visto. Intanto è troppo lungo, alterna momenti spettacolari a momenti meh, alla lunga la voce scoccia, Cupid De Locke canzone meravigliosa.
Not their best album but good and couple all time great songs
I can get past Billy’s weird voice. This album has a little bit of everything and carries itself very nicely through 2 discs.
Loves this when it came out, still love it today.
I enjoyed it, although I found it a bit long and it had some fillers.
some stinkers but far more bangers
Meh. Light screamo rock
I really enjoyed the album. It was heavier than I expected and had a great vibe all the way through. What I didn’t expect was how long it was - 28 songs, 2 hours. It’s full of great content, but it is a bit too long.
Great album.
do not have
Yea this is another good one..
Interesting riffs and musical ideas, clearly acts as a predecessor of deftones orchestrated, calm style of metal, it’s just way too long and corgans whiny vocals suck.
I was in college when this was released. It was a Really Big Deal. To me, Gish and Siamese Dream are indisputable end-to-end masterworks of the era, and the Pisces Iscariot collection gathered together some quiet classics. So Mellon Collie was released with great expectation and considered closely in smoky dorm rooms for the better part of a year. This thing is neither a masterwork nor a classic. It remains as stubbornly bloated and overcooked today as was upon release. Lots of highlights; too many lowlights. The rat in a cage and the loneliess is happiness and god is empty stuff, coupled with the prog rock production, revealed Billy Corgan to be the clumsy and hamfisted rock writer he remains to this day. The rockers are weaker than the gentler stuff. I still love the second half of the second disc; there's some beautiful music there. And to be fair there's plenty of excellent songs sprinkled throughout. But getting from start to finish remains a slog for me, so many years later. A mixed bag, still. 3 stars.
Overlong. self-indulgent. 1979 can't redeem this album, and it's just as much a waste as I remember.
First half is great, second half is not. Would be fine with this if it wasn't two hours long.
ruim
I'm only forty-two albums in this challenge, and I've already gotten two Smashing Pumpkins albums (supposedly it's the last of them on this list—what a relief!). I'm so tempted to give this one the lowest rating, but at the same time, I do understand why people love this kind of sound; it's 90s alt-rock at its best. ...I just really hate 90s alt-rock, I guess. Anyway, I think I made it clear in my review of Siamese Dream just how much I despise this vocalist. He's got to be one of the worst singers who's ever made it big. He's bearable when he's not shouting and/or whining, but that rarely ever happens, which is why it's really hard for me to enjoy anything by this band. The instrumentation is at times really good, even though it mostly falls into the repetetive category, but that guy ruins every single song he opens his mouth on. As for the compositions themselves—they're just okay, not that groundbreaking at all, which is why I don't understand why this band is being listed right next to the likes of Nirvana when they're really just another generic alt-rock 90s band. I will say though that they must have put a lot of effort into this album, but it's just way too bloated. I could see myself enjoying this a bit more if they cut out all the unnecessary filler. Siamese Dream was similarly exhausting, but at least it was a normal-length album, while this seemed to go on forever. There's supposed to be a concept somewhere in there, but I guess I missed it while forcing myself to finish it. 2 stars (only for the couple of songs that didn't make me want to smash the skip button)
First Smashig Pumpkins album I’ve ever heard
Solid
This aged well. A bit long but didn't feel bloated
I’m really enjoying this, the famous songs (tonight, zero, bullet…) really stand out but with every double album there is too much stuff on there thst could just be cut and left for later.
I was expecting to hate this one. While I already knew and liked Bullet With Butterfly Wings I hadn't really listened to much more of The Smashing Pumpkins. Imagining a whole 2 hours of that same sound seemed awful to me. While I do think this album is... entirely too long, I liked it better than anticipated. The main vocalist can be grating, but thankfully swaps it up enough that he's not always going for that "shrieky" sound. Also there were some songs that really enjoyed musically so I'll be taking more from this than I thought. Since it was so long, a lot of it started to bleed together, and I honestly have no clue how I even felt about most of the second half. I very much think if this was shorter, more edited down, or even split into two albums I would be giving this an additional star. As is I really debate if this is more of a 2 or 3 star album for me. There are great songs on here doing a lot of heavy lifting to make me want to give it a 3, but when I consider the entirety of the album and how forgettable a lot of it felt (probably mostly due to length and fatigue) I really want to make it a 2. Since I suppose that makes it a 2.5 and I have been rounding up my 3.5s, I'll make it a 3. This is really making me want a half star system though.
being a 90s baby this album is very nostalgic for me. so much awesome material on this album. definitely iconic.
I remember how disappointed I was when this first came out and I bought it. I love, really love Gish and Siamese Dream and I didn't really like this, especially the tracks that got the most airplay. It was the last SP album I ever bought/listened to. I guess listening to it now almost 20 years later, it's not so bad. 7/10
3.5
Creative but no tracks I want to individually listen to for the moment Still cohesive as an album Might listen again as background noise It could grow on me
Beautiful and heavy. Really excellent.
I’m seeing the Pumpkins this week so this was timely. A perennial favourite, my most beloved double album, it’s bloated sure but it’s also opulent.
Surprisingly enough, I have listened to the lengthy MCatIS in its entirety before. Borrowed it from the public library and listened in one sitting; main memories are that the album is way too long, kinda angry, and very screechy. This time through was not as rough; still way too long but Side A and F are actually good. The middle 2/3s of the album are nearly unlistenable filler with many very similar screeching songs. Length of the album puts this at the top of the 1001 too long album list, and has it come in at (3.1*s)
A triple LP, GTFOH. I can't say I enjoyed this, the entire middle is total rubbish and many of the front and end songs aren't polished or good enough to revisit. How did Billy Corgan even become a singer? Are there people who actually like this voice? Everything he touches feels contrived. He's trying too hard to be dark, he's trying to write meaningful lyrics and they fall flat, he's not trying to grate off all your skin with his vocals but he does. I don't like this album because I don't even really like their hits. The title also sucks. My chore is complete.
If you think Alanis Morrisette and Thom Yorke are whiny...hold on to your butts. Billy Corgan has one of the most annoying songing voices of all time. I have seen them live and it can get quite tortuous. That being said, the hits on this album are truly hits. His voice does not ruin the songs because they are good enough to hold up. 1979 and Zero top the bill. Other than the hits though...the album has very little more to offer and is too long. Some songs are atrocious like Tales of a Scorched Earth. Band was huge and I see why the album is on the list but not going back to it anytime soon..2.2.
The Smashing Pumpkins and Mellon Collie are kinda hard to sum up. On the one hand, some of their finest work is absolutely on display. On the other hand, do we need 2+ hours and 30+ songs? After a listen I guess I feel like we do on this one. The huge quantity and wildly varied stylings from melodic ballads, grunge, hard rock, and everything in between are all integral to why this was such a smash on release. I remember the hits from this album were all over the radio for a spell, some of which are all-timers and definitely deserve to remain in the rotation 20+ years later. This album certainly has a reputation. I'm glad I gave it a listen in unison. Despite the fact that it will be a long time before I come back to it I can completely see why an angsty teen or early 20's rocker in the 90's would have fully identified with this. It's a solid album and great project despite some question marks. I fully understand why it catapulted SP and Billy Corgan up a couple levels for a bit. Billy Corgan has become a bit of a blowhard and the other SP work I've tested over the years has done very little for me but it shouldn't detract from Mellon Collie. Not my favorite but it belongs on the 1001. 2.93 stars
i really do not like the smashing pumpkins. i really don't enjoy Billy Corgan's voice... and i do not find that i enjoy their music
It might be biased by my nostalgia, but love the album…
Just totally nails that sound, that age, and that feeling.
3.5★ Not exactly 2 hours of nonstop Greatness but there is indeed lots to like and at times even love about this. Certainly easy to admire the sonic eclecticism, though I personally prefer the poppier/dreamer/rockier stuff to the more metallic songs (Tales of a Scorched Earth in particular is quite woeful, though X.Y.U is decent). My biggest reservation lies in the vocals, vocals which are often unable to hit high enough registers when trying to be emotional and sound rather Billy-from-across-the-street type of unexceptional in the heavier material, though not without their moments. Lyrics aren't always a strength either. Too many songs liked to list but the ones that really knocked my socks off are Tonight, Tonight, To Forgive (this one in particular hit me hard), and Thirty-Three.
I had to listen to this in two sessions, because it is simply too long. And not good enough for that length at that. The album was hailed as something like the next coming in alt rock, but all I'm hearing is ... alt rock, by the numbers. Where is the revelation I was promised?!? This is even more irritating considering Billy Corgan's singing sounds like a bad Mick Jagger parody. If this is really the Smashing Pumpkins at their peek, as the Good Book states, I am not interested in the rest of their catalogue. 2/5
One of the most important records of my life. I had never experienced a double length record unless you count Use Your Illusion, and i thought it was the absolute peak of artistry. Sadly it also pretty much marked the death of the pumpkins and so much of the hope of the 90s with it. But none of that impacts my score of 4 on the empirical scale of awesome musicness.
So much nostalgia here. I remember seeing the music video for Tonight Tonight, done in the trip to the moon fashion, and being blown away. It was nice to give this a full listen because for years I have cherry picked the hits from it. And there are alot of hits.
A classic.
I HATE DOUBLE ALBUMS!!!!
The Smashing Pumpkins have never pricked my interest and not aware of any of their stuff. So this was another welcome adventure into the unknown that this list throws up. The first track was lovely and melodic but this proved to be the best bit of this album. After a great start the album became a bit heavy for my tastes and confirmed what I always thought TSP were all about. I thought the lead vocals were also a bit sharp and whiny and got on my nerves after a while. However, I was listening whilst ironing and found myself once or twice moving to some of the heavy riffs around the ironing table so not all bad. All in all a mid 2/5 but nearer 3 than 2. 3/5 6/6/24
An audacious double album full of emotion and a variety of rock sounds. My enjoyment is probably bolstered by not being personally bothered by Billy Corgan's voice. I love that it opens with an instrumental and a stadium rock tune, then nosedives into something heavy. Highlights: Tonight Tonight, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, To Forgive, An Ode To No One, Cupid De Locke (chamber pop!), Galapogos, Take Me Down, 1979, Tales Of A Scorched Earth, Stumbleine, Lily (My One And Only)
Double albums that aren't 'conceptc albums always fall foul of being just too damn long. While Mellon Collie is incredibly enjoyable, it isn't enjoyable for 2 hours. 6.5/10
Less melodic and less melancholic than I recalled. And more smash the world — which given the right mood might have been better
It’s been a thousand years since I’ve listened to this. But it’s all coming back. This was huge at the time. Yeah, I don’t even need to finish it to know it’s at least 4/5.
Rating: 8.5/10 Great album overall, some of the band's best material is on here. I admire how ambitious this album is, around two hours long with diverse songwriting and different sounds/styles. The songwriting is mostly fantastic, because of its long length some songs are a bit underwhelming or feel redundant. This album is very cathartic, Billy Corgan sings and plays with so much emotion in every song. Most of the highlights are on the first half, this album could have been a five-star album if it was only one disc. Favorite songs: Mellon Collie, Tonight Tonight, Zero, Here Is No Why, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, To Forgive, An Ode To No One, Cupid De Locke, Where Boys Fear To Tread, Thirty-Three, 1979, X.Y.U., We Only Come Out At Night, Beautiful, Farewell And Goodnight. Worst songs: Love, Take Me Down, Tales Of A Scorched Earth.
Gran trabajo de The Smashing Pumpinks que sólo escuché completo una sóla vez: supongo que por su longitud o por adentrarme en otros artistas. Disco lleno de furia e introspección en su música y letra: algo muy de los '90 que hoy, en algún estrato, persiste. Muy bien 10
never got into this because of the length (2 hours??); this has the length of two albums combined. side a has a very strong lineup, but side b is a little shakier, but intimate. anyway im glad i got to listen to this album cause its beautiful. the production unfortunately isnt the best which really is a shame, but i can still feel the emotions poured into a lot of the songs. first time listening to tonight, tonight got me tearing up. 4 personal favs: tonight, tonight 🤯 here is no why, galapogos, 1979, by starlight
A great single album hidden inside a double album. I'm not against a long album as long as it earns it, but I feel like with some cutting this could have been a front to back no skip album, but instead we have a lot of I memorable filler splitting up the moments of genius. The album's sequencing is also something I'm not a fan of. Multiple times they go straight from a nice subdued pretty song into just a wall of distortion, which while I can see what they were going for, is just completely ineffective in my eyes. Bump it: Galapagos, 1979, Jelly Belly, Thru The Eyes Of Ruby Skip it: Where Boys Fear To Tread, Cupid De Locke, An Ode To Noone, Tales Of A Scorched Earth
I would've liked this more if it had been released as two separate albums. As a double album the second half dragged after the first.
Gevarieerd album
Every other song is an all time classic
A decent album, classic songs Top tracks: Zero, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, To Forgive, 1979