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I thought it only ehh when it was released still kind of feel that way.
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The Smashing Pumpkins have been known to me by name as an alternative hard rock band for quite some time. I'm not sure if I've ever heard a song by them. I certainly didn't know this album. There were a lot of good ideas on it. However, none of the songs really stuck in my memory enough to make me want to listen to them again. But maybe I'll have to give the album a second chance. 3/5
first album had a few songs that were nice. meh overall. not my thing
Zero is fucking excellent. So is Bullet etc as well.
Despite how foundational this album was to alternative rock, I've actually never listened to the album. Holy crap is it long. I appreciate how many different sounds they've fit into it, but it overstays its welcome.
It’s okay, but I missed the banger hits on that album. All in all okay but I need more than just 2 hours of music.
Album ran out of steam. It definitely did not need to be a double album. Would have been a 4 otherwise
infinite is right
I think I agree with Robert Christgau on this one: Lot of ambition on this record, but it only really comes together on a few songs. Tonight Tonight and 1979 are by far the best singles. Galapagos and Muzzle are stand-out album tracks. The lyrics (when easily discernable) are lacking as compared to the music, and some of the music is *very* much "of its time", meaning for me it sounds a lot less fresh and unique than it may have in 1996. I'm sure I listened to this album on repeat in college, but it definitely left less of an impression on me than other albums from the time. Also, some of the songs (and their titles) remain cringey to me 30+ years later.
Overblown production. All the amazing bits of Siamese Dream that were dialled up to 11, but with little light and shade, just bombast. A tiring listen.
I already knew that I liked a few songs from this album, primarily 1979. Overall, I'm not a big fan of the sound of the vocalist. I can definitely see how it influenced artists that followed and it's an interesting inflection point between punk/grunge into emo, post punk, and alternative rock. I probably can't give it a fair evaluation since I don't enjoy their specific sound. I can't say whether the album had much of a flow to it either, since I kept getting interrupted while listening to it at work. 2 out of 5 stars, I get it, but it ain't for me.
I never really got into the Smashing Pumkins. I tried back in the day. I even bought Siamese Dream, but really couldn’t do it. The music on this record is actually really good. It’s Billy Corgan’s voice that just pushes me away. I get into a song, then he starts singing.
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (Instrumental) 3.3 Tonight, Tonight 3.8 Jellybelly 3.8 Zero 4 Here Is No Why 3.5 Bullet with Butterfly Wings 4 To Forgive 3.4 Fuck You (An Ode to No One) 3.5 Love 3.2 Cupid de Locke 3 Galapogos 3.1 Muzzle 3.3 Porcelina of the Vast Oceans 3.3 Take Me Down 3 Where Boys Fear to Tread 3.4 Bodies 3.4 Thirty-Three 3.1 In the Arms of Sleep 2.8 1979 3.7 Tales of a Scorched Earth 3 Thru the Eyes of Ruby 3.5 Stumbleine 3.2 X.Y.U. 3.6 We Only Come Out at Night 3 Beautiful 3.2 Lily (My One and Only) 3 By Starlight 3.3 Farewell and Goodnight 3 Score: 3.335714286
I didn't like the first few songs, but that's usual for me, and it was also an inclination of closedmindedness. I wasn't a fan of the guy's voice, but it grew on me eventually. As the album went on, I really liked a lot of the songs and took note of some. Near the end, I decided that I need to listen to this album again in the future because I know I will appreciate it a lot more during the second listen. Overall 7/10
Listened roughly half, maybe got something
Nunca tinha ouvido um album completo deles, já tinha ouvido algumas músicas separadas por aí, que gostei. Com esse album é a mesma coisa, nem tudo me atraiu, mas gostei muito de algumas, das 28 acho que favoritei 6 que gostei mesmo. Tem várias pegadas no mesmo album, no geral, um album bom, ouvi o disco 1 e 2.
a bit of a long album, but my problem is how bad some of the angsty lyrics are. Still, I like a good sprawling album, and the idea of the contrast of the heavy and pretty moments. The latter are gorgeous, and some of the heaviest songs rock. XYU???
The platonic ideal of a 3-star album that could easily by 5-star if it was half the length (or maybe 30% of the length considering how many of the longer song drag). Some of the best songs of Billy Corgan’s career, and all time frankly, mixed in with a lot of forgettable half-formed ideas.
Over 2 hours… This could be a 4 star album if you cut out half. Alternating between pretty good songs and senseless (to me) screaming or whispering. 2.5 starts. Benefit of the doubt 3 stars for now.
Only made it through Disc 1. Obviously, I grew up hearing a lot of this on the radio, but their music has never really done much for me. Album Cover: 8/10
Too damn long.
Kinda felt cheated out of a really good album. All the songs were recorded really muted. Now I know that could be because it’s old. Maybe the restoration wasn’t great. I dunno. The muted sound of the whole album caused a really annoying itch in the back of my head right behind my ears and that never got scratched. And that was kinda maddening. Otherwise I thought it was fine. Never listened to Smashing Punkins before.
mellon collie and the infinite album not really my speed but it's not bad. I like the less noisy songs (1979 & a lot of the last half of disc 2). Also releasing a 2 hour album is an insane flex and I respect it 3.5 stars
I've never been a big Smashing Pumpkins fan because I don't like their sound. Hearing them in album form actually elevated then a little bit because it helped me appreciate some of the depth in what they're doing. But I still don't enjoy their sound.
The first double disc I ever listened to and then owned. Before that I never realized a band could release something spanning more than a single CD. The surprise song I liked a lot back then and still do is/was Galapagos. Listening to the album now though, I think the album is a little long in the tooth and why I prefer Siamese Dream over this one nowadays.
Some bangers
I enjoyed this, I did feel the album was a bit too long though.
This CD was practically melted to my CD player when it came out I played it so much, but I haven't listened to it much in a long, long time. And honestly, it doesn't quite hold up. Sounds very dated and so many songs feel are forgettable. Probably could have been a much tighter single disc album rather than a double. The songs that resonated with me most were the mellow ones especially towards the end of disc 2. "Lily," "By Starlight," and "Fairwell and Goodnight," the last 3 songs, were my favorites in addition to "1979."
Good songs but tooooooo lonnnnnng
Good stuff from the SP but not my favourite album from them
I've never been into Smashing Pumpkins. It's all a bit samey really. Apart from 1979, Tonight Tonight etc. But can't deny how huge an album it was at the time. Too long also.
X.Y.U. // Lily //
There is 1 good record here but not 2. Too much bloated filler.
My god it's two hours. 3.
Tonight, tonight and a couple others are mesmerizingly good, unique songs. There are just so many that go too hard for me.
The Smashing Pumpkins hold no particular place in my heart. Amongst the alt-rock acts of the 90s, they rank towards the top, but the gulf between my favorites and everyone else is incredibly large. As such, I similarly find no particular love for this album. It exudes Gen-X to such an extreme degree, and it just doesn't resonate for me. It's got good songwriting and a cool blend of soft melodicism and harder grunge cuts. I don't love Billy's voice, but any misgivings about it are balanced by an enjoyable sound. As someone who frankly doesn't care for destroying squash of any variety, I don't need 2 hours. If you do, fantastic. Rating: 7/10 Favorite Song: 1979
The couple songs everyone knows are good, but after that it's a bit meloncholy
A wild ride
Kunne langt bedre lide siamese Dream. Havde svært ved at komme igennem de 2 timer her
3.5
I enjoyed it, but extremely long. Many if songs sounded skmilar
Billy Cougan is not a pleasant listen.
First and foremost, 28 songs is a lot of song for one album so keeping the quality all the way through was tough to do. I did like the mixture of heavy guitar songs with amazing drums and mellow medium tempo songs. However, the singers voice is not very pleasant to listen too and I really struggled with that. It’s from my high school era and everyone loved the band but still only sort of a middle of the road album with a few great songs on on.
OK. Didn't enjoy as much as I thought I would
Good songs, so long
Some solid songs. Just not one I’d listen to over and over and over.
point2.
Okay, this is 28 tracks long. Let's see how much of Billy Corgan's BS I can slog my way through. ... four and a half tracks before I noped out. I'm not great at separating the art from the artist, so it's genuinely more difficult for me to hear the artistic merit in Smashing Pumpkins music with my extremely low opinion of Billy Corgan as a person. It is a pretty significant part of the 90s music scene, and very influential on later artists in multiple genres. Three stars, I guess?
Jeez 2 hours long, it's fine but length is a deal breaker
It's fine, probably better than most other albums this site has spit out. But 2 hours? Get a grip. 3
There are definitely some strong songs on this album (Zero, Here Is No Why), and I've always LOVED To Forgive. Of course one of my favorite beers is named after a line in Bullet With Butterfly Wings. But overall, the album is just meh and wears me down by the end. 3/5.
It's way too long, and I say that while also thinking two slightly longer records (Joanna Newsom's Have One On Me, Cindy Lee's Diamond Jubilee) are among the best ever. But when it hits, wow, there's nothing like it. This is maybe my fourth listen all the way through over the years. Cupid de Locke into Galapagos is a career high. 1979 is obviously amazing too. Tonite Tonite, etc. I could see myself loving this if I were willing to regularly spend this much time with Billy Corgan. More of a 3.5
# 415 : They've done a pretty decent job, it’s a good album, it’s enjoyable and fun overall, but drags out a bit. Everybody loves this, but to me, it is better than ok, but not 5 star material. Favourite track : Bullet With Butterfly Wings
meh но трек 1979 это круто
The hits are good
Good stuff here. I liked it a lot but it didn't gag me. I am between a 3 and a 4 here because it does really get to you, but compared to some other stuff I don't know. Also a bit on the long side with two discs. I'll deduct half a star for that.
Love this
Tonight, tonight is still a fantastic song.
Echt revolutionair. Alleen zijn stem wordt je na de belachelijke runtime van 2 uur wel echt een beetje irritant.
Dit album is echt goed. Niet voor niets een klassieker. Wat het wel tegen zich heeft, is de duur en de combinatie van de duur en de complexiteit van de muziek. Een album van twee uur is lang, eigenlijk te lang. Dan zou je 'm eventueel nog wel op de achtergrond op kunnen zetten. Dat is hier alleen fucking zonde, omdat de muziek en tekst zodanig mooi en complex zijn, dat je hier echt wel aandachtig voor moet zitten. Dan is lastig, omdat 'ie zo lang is. Ik heb 'm dan ook niet af kunnen luisteren. Desalniettemin een toppertje hoor!
Tuplalevy voi olla joskus hyvä idea, mutta ei, jos kakkoslevy on levyllinen b-puolta (ellei se ole sitä ihan rehellisesti - tää yrittää muuta, koska on siellä yks sinkkuaineskappale 1979). Ekasta levystä mulla ei ole valittamista, pätevää grungea. Bullet with butterfly wings toimii hyvin siellä keskellä nostattajana. Ihan hilkulla 3.
Some great songs but it's too long and I think has some filler in it
блин здесь есть крутые песни и в целом это неплохой альбомчик, если бы не два факта: 1) нахуя двойной альбом на 120 минут?? не выкупил концепт, да и в принципе сложно слушать 2) на вокале странный парень конечно
Tonight, tonight & Bullet With Butterfly Wings var mina anthem i högstadiet. Ska bli kul att lyssna på hela plattan. Introlåten sätter tonen fint.
A mixed bag tbh. I guess that's inevitable on a 28-track album.
I enjoyed this music. I’ve always heard of the smashing pumpkins but never actually listened to them
Tonight, Tonight, Bullet with Butterfly Wings, and 1979 are songs that are nostalgic just from being someone who has listened to alternative radio for a long time. But I’m learning I really am not into 2 hour albums. More is not better, just more. I feel very neutrally about this.
So half the songs were a 4 and half were 2 stars. Cut the 2 stars out and there would be a very nice full length album in there. This was no “The Wall” for Gen X!
I enjoyed some of this and didn’t like other parts. Glad I listened though 6/10
I did not expect every SP song i know to be from the same album. Some bangers, but 2 hours of Billy Corgan’s voice is 1.5 hours too many. Album art slaps though.
Some good songs, but overall kinda forgettable. Got tired of the guys voice by the end
Why was this a double album? There's a ton of good tracks here, and it could have been an incredible album, but it's just drowned out on disc 2 with (almost) nothing but filler.
WAY too long for this challenge. This was fine. Some nice sounds but I think I skipped before the end of every track. This sort of thing has been done a lot better before and since
Another one that would benefit from some serious trimming. There are several really strong tracks on here, but if the other twenty or so were removed, this would be a very good record.
Gish and Siamese Dream are the kind of great records that changed my world when I heard them. Later, right at the inflection point of Mellon Collie, Smashing Pumpkins morphed somehow. I never bear to listen to the whole record before now; the tracks seemed to be increasingly padded with indulgent, meandering vanities, and a lower proportion of blistering psychedelic barrages. Of course there are several proper classic bangers here, but many more dismal duds.
The Smashing Pumpkins are one of those bands where you’re like “Oohh this is going to be good” and then the lead singer starts singing and they sound like a dying cat. Despite that I still really like “Tonight, Tonight”, “1979”, and “Bullet With Butterfly Wings”.
I am not a huge Smashing Pumpkins fan but I do know how good this album is. I do remember it being released and only listening to the singles. Which I enjoyed.
This might have been the high point of the band, but I just never really liked this band, so, it's hard to give it a higher score.
Einige hörenswerte Titel, ein Einfachalbum hätte gereicht.
Too long but lots of hits
Soft 90’s smumpkins
The few good ones keep this from a 2, but 2 hours is really asking for it.
Corrigan's voice is tough to take for a whole album, let alone two. Some good song-writing, but overshadowed by his screechy voice.
Enjoyed. This is an era I missed while starting a career and entering parenthood.
The cover artwork for The Smashing Pumpkins' "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness" is a striking blend of whimsy and darkness. The iconic image of a girl atop a star captures a dreamlike quality, evoking both nostalgia and unease. While the collage technique is intriguing, drawing from classical art sources, it may feel disjointed to some viewers. The overall aesthetic reflects the album's themes of duality, balancing light and dark elements effectively. However, the surreal nature might not resonate with everyone. Ultimately, it stands as a memorable piece that complements the album's complexity but doesn't fully transcend its era. Album artworks rated: 17/1001 Music's great.
3* Good bangers but the album is ridiculously long. 2 whole hours!
Would have enjoyed it more if it wasn’t so long.
I love the Smashing Pumpkins...but I simply did not have the time to listen to 2 hours of Smashing Pumpkins. Never listened to this album straight through because of its length. I tried. I failed. The limited amount of songs I heard outside of the hits were fine...no spectacular.
Not a huge fan of the Smashing Pumpkins but this was enjoyable enough. Not sure I will ever sit through the whole album again.
I mean it's fine. Has a bunch of good songs but why is it almost 2 hours long?!?!?!? Billy Corgan this is unnecessary 6/10
I liked the slower songs the best, especially the first.
I liked the slower/softer songs. 1979 and galapogos were standouts
There are songs I like on this album, but I don’t love the Album. In fact, I recently saw them live opening for Green Day and was even more disappointed. I enjoyed some of their songs, but as a whole, I wouldn’t just go and listen to this album.
Too long. Didn’t listen to it all
TL;DR
Fun fact: Being John Malkovich was originally supposed to be Being Billy Corgan but he only wanted to film the scenes in the universe where every character was him.
Have never really listened to this album before - and really only know the singles :Tonight, Tonight, 1979 and Bullet with Butterfly Wings which are all great songs (although not quite as good as Today). At 2 hours the rest of the album feels bloated and quite varied in tone. Unfortunately do not have the time the album probably needs for me to give it enough listens to fully appreciate it. After my first run through I think that Siamese Dreams is the much stronger album.
Meh
3/5
I think the cover art and the album title are quite brilliant. As for the music, it's certainly commendable for it's epic production, featuring some brilliantly sweeping arrangements and tight musicianship. It's a very long album (double CD, triple vinyl), so you could say it's a sprawling affair. I think one issue is Billy Corgan's vocals, while perfectly acceptable, struggle to carry it for the full two hours of music. Ya know, if you directly compare this to 'The White Album' (which isn't that much shorter), The Beatles had 4 vocalists and a lot more variation in singing styles and moods. By song 5 on The Smashing Pumpkins, I had a head ache coming on. Final analysis, probably really a 2, but 2 feels a bit mean so I bumped it up to 3.
Following up Siamese Dream, which teenage me deemed one of the greatest albums ever written, was always going to be tough. This double album is long and probably contains some of greatest songs written by The Smashing Pumpkins, aside from those on Siamese Dream. It successfully captures all the emotions and turmoil of being 15, an example of a band understanding their fanbase and writing songs specifically for them perhaps. However, whilst Siamese Dream still holds up well 30 years later, MCIS feels like more of a chaotic mess than a masterpiece. In hindsight, perhaps a shorter single album would have survived better.
Great fun but far too long.
I always wanted to like this album more than I actually did. There are many great highlights, but like most other reviewers, the double-album feels far too long, most get tired of Corgan's vocals after 20 minutes.
der name ist programm, nichts zum nebenbei hören...nur für sehr spezielle abende zu empfehlen
This didn't need to be a double album. There are good songs on here and if the fat was trimmed, this could have been a really good album. Instead, some decent tracks and a lot of filler. Gets a passing grade but that's all.
Solid album. Lots of hits. Some overplayed a bit much when released. Just a tad long for me. 3.75
Better than I expected. There are some really, really good songs. But his voice is still terribly grating.
It’s amazing how they can go from soft and sensitive to ripping boarder line metal. They’re diverse. Some of these songs are iconic and hold up. Some of these are outright bad. I think the album could have been trimmed down to one disc.
Album is okay. Overall the tone really isn’t my thing, but the songs I knew before listening are still good. A two plus hour album is rough though. 3/5 Probably won’t listen again
A bit of a long one to get through. Not really the music that appeals to me these days. I can get into some of the tracks. I can dig the musical theme throughout, like a concept album, which I hold a lot of respect for. It’s just not for me these days. Maybe after a few more listens I’ll recognize some tracks that have caught my attentIon.
It's good. But it falls into that category of rock that it just a bit top end on the levels and I fin it all a bit ... scratchy.
A double album was probably too indulgent. There's definitely 42 min of good songs on there.
Acho que gostei mais do Siamese Dream, mas acho que tem umas músicas boas também. É uma música mais lentinha, que eu normalmente não gosto de ouvir, mas acho que darei mais chance para The Smashing Pumpkins. Quando eu aprender a letra, talvez fique mais fácil de ouvir. Músicas que eu gostei: * Muzzle * Zero * Tonight, Tonight * Beautiful * Bodies * 1979
Surprisingly enjoyed
I loved Siamese Dream, but didn't like singles from this one, so I never had the opportunity to listen to it until now. Wow it's long, but there is a lot of good music in here, just not as good as Siamese Dream in my opinion. As others have said, Jimmy Chamberlin's drumming stands out. Liked Songs Added: Muzzle Where Boys Fear To Tread Bodies
Dense. Angry. Anguished. Sprawling, in a sense, but samey, too. (If I had enjoyed it more, I would probably have said something like "sonically consistent", but there is a lot of it that is ok, but also very like the rest of it without being in any way outstanding.) Some good guitar sounds, and striking bass playing. I listened to it twice, which is probably not enough to unveil its mysteries, but twice round was plenty for me
Too long and mixed everything possible
This surprised me a lot, the world is a vampire. Too long of an album tho.
I wanted to give it a 3 star for being so fucking long, but it's not a threefer... I could probably edit this down to a 75 min strong to high 3½ star... mostly cutting from disc 2. Disc one actually is not that bad as it is even with "Zero" still in play. Definitely woukd keep "1979", "Through The Eyes of Ruby" and the closer. (7.1) ★★★½
Too long and too varying in quality. 3 stars
2 hours plus of hard rock by a band who you’re not familiar with seemed a pretty daunting task. However the lyrics and quality musicianship made it an interesting experience.
That’s a LOT of tracks, Billy
Absolutely insufferable voice to listen to. Quite decent instrumentals, but dear lord I am not going to listen to this mf whine for two hours Ynn
Not bad— kinda forgettable songs that fill up this long album though. A few of them are xrt standbys though which is a plus
Double albums rarely work. This album has some great songs on it but there are 28 tracks covering 2 hours, so there is lots of filler. An ode to no one is an example of that. This album had some beautiful moments. Mellon collie is a lovely instrumental and the album really kicks off with the fantastic tonight tonight. It was a strong opening but really dragged until track 14 take me down. Favourite song: tonight tonight. Least favourite: I was not a fan of zero or ode to no one. Album artwork: Creepy cover
Pretty good rock
This was a tough one for me to get through. Took me almost a week. Everything about it is fine. I’m a big lyric person though, and I can’t understand 90% of the shit Billy Corgan is saying. I’ve heard 1979 a dillion times, and I only just not realized that I don’t know the damn words.
50% slightly obnoxious, 50% slightly enjoyable 3/5
IT was OK. More melodic, but it doesn't have a good rocker like Cherub Rock.
Cool album. Awful vocalist.
Really didnt age well for me
Overall good songs. Some hit the mark a bit better than others. My only beef is that it’s a two hour long album…
I'd agree with the reviews calling this a masterpiece if Billy Morgan wasn't such a shit singer
Didn’t need to be a double album. Other than bullet with butterfly wings and 1979.. not as many memorable hits as the Siamese Dream
Highlights: Here is no why, Bullet with butterfly wings, Fuck you (An ode to no one), Galapogos, Porcelina of the vast oceans, Bodies, X.Y.U., By Starlight -Although I wouldn't listen to every song on its own again, I feel like every track is good in the context of the album, maybe besides Tales of a Scorched Earth -The album is WAY too long, to the point that I can't really listen to it in one sitting while staying fully focused. -The album has an almost perfect ratio of calmer and more agressive songs, maybe a bit too many slower songs at the end. -At first I found the vocals kind of screechy and annoying, but after a bit I ended up really enjoying them. -Lyrics get overly edgy at times, but that's not a huge problem, it's grunge after all. -Overall, its length really hurts its score, I feel like a lot could've been cut to make it significantly shorter and give it a couple extra points. Rating: 6.2/10
good
bruh mellon collie and the infinite sadness- 4 tonight tonight- 5 jellybelly- 4 zero- 6 here is no why- 4 bullet with butterfly wings- 4 or 5 to forgive-4 an ode to no one- 4 love- 4 cupid de locke- 5 or 6 galapogos- 4 muzzle- 4 porcelina of the vast oceans-3 take me down- 5 searching for someone who cares. favorite track- zero or cupid
How to rate Mellon Collie & The Infinite Double Album? There are some real standout tracks that I love. Then there are 18 to 20 more tracks that are fine at best. Lows don't quite fully outweigh the highs? But I'm not going to ever reach for this full album.
did not hold my attention for two hours but was less annoying than anticipated. 2.5
The opener was a Heavenly experience, then tonight tonight was so good, I repeated it like 10 times before moving on to the next song. The rest of the songs were just typical grunch until 1979 which was another fav of mine An album with great highs and just other bland songs
Pretty good but really dragged on
Too long
Too long
# Album Name: Mellon Collie & the infinite sadness (OG vinyl) # Artist: Smashing Pumpkins # Rating: 3/5 # Comments: Side 1 & 2: Tonight tonight a song i remember from the 90s. I always enjoyed it if im honest. A very catchy song, good lyrics, great use of strings. Billys voice gets a bit whiney but its still a cracker. The drum beat suits the song to a T. This was the highlight of part 1 of the album for me. Which is a shame being so early on. The album (OG vinyl) started off very mellow. Acoustic driven. Then it hit "jellybelly" which turned it on its head and into more of a grunge sound. It was quite a 180 in sound and direction. I dont think it suited the flow of the album if im honest. The first disc followed this pattern flipping between an slower paced tune to a alt sound. Couple more decent songs on this part like 33, bodies and to forgive. Porcelina of vast ocean. Overall, lots of alright songs with one cracker but a strange mix of acoustic / alt / grunge. Not sure if it works that well for me. I had to take a break at this point. No way could i handle 2 hours in one sitting. Side 3 & 4: Bullet with butterfly wing, 1979, where boys fear to treat, we only come out at night and zero were the highlights of the 2nd side. Overall, this is a really long fucking album. Its the longest album ive ever heard. I found it quite infuriating. Why? Well because firstly, there is some genuinely good songs on here. Easily 5-6 that comes to mind straight away. But sadly there was just so many songs on the album which were average or should have been B-sides maybe. That plus the length brings the scoring down for me. If SP stripped most of the b-side material and kept the core songs from each album, maybe 10-12 tracks on the album, then this would have been a real classic. # Top Tunes: Tonight, tonight. Bullet with butterfly wing, 1979, where boys fear to treat, we only come out at night and zero were the highlights of the 2nd side. # Would I listen to it again? I wont listen to this in its entirety but i will come back to a streamlined playlist of my fav tracks off the album.
First song was awesome then got too heavy for my liking.
Enjoyable for the most part, a bit shouty for me elsewhere.
The most irritating voice of the 90s that somehow made it work. My respects for pulling it but not something I particularly enjoy
No way they got me listening to 2 hour long album good if you have a lot of free time
3.5 rounded down now why is this over two hours long….. docking points bc there was literally 0 reason for that whatsoever. get over urself highlights: zero, here is no why, cupid de locke, 1979, tales of a scorched earth (nov 1 2024)
Enjoyed
Some hits but I’m just not into them.
While there are some songs on here that I find nice in their sweep of sound and simple emotions (Tonight, 1979). It does not hold up through the rest of the album, the bulk of which feels like sonic and lyrical wallpaper. Lots of trite emotions that could use some prosaic specificity to balance things out.
Will come back for a few of these. Two hours is way too long.
It’d be nearly impossible to make an album this long that didn’t feel bloated. There are great songs on here but a lot of dross, and all that heaviness and melancholy starts to suffocate. If they’d cut out 15 songs this could have been a 5. Everyone needs an editor.
Liked this more than I expected. Their hits were hits for a reason. Billy Corgan’s voice is so annoying that I like it, and I love the melodramatic tone of some of these. But docking a full star for length and some duds along the way
Disc one was pretty close to a 5 for me, loved almost all of it, such great blend of loud and soft tunes. Loved Muzzle and the singles. Disc 2 felt like much more of a drag and didn’t really hit its stride as much. Plan to return to this one though, as there seems to be more here. Listened to this one live from their hometown of Chicago!
Christ but it's long. Even the title is long. Too long. Nobody needs a 2 hour + double CD on a list like this, i don't care how many it sold. But is it any good? Mostly. The singles are fine, if a bit pretentious: grunge tending to generic rock. Well, so are the non-singles, despite Wikipedia's insistence on the variety of styles. What this really is, is an album for playing on long (in UK terms) drives.
One thing I've learned is that if you want to ruin a perfectly good album, make it a double album.
A bit too long - its OK
Only two days after my last Pumpkins album I got this epic two-hour long entry. I wasn't a fan of Siamese Dream, proclaiming Billy's voice to be whiny and their guitar sounds to be obnoxiously fuzzy. While those two facts remained true throughout the course of Mellon Collie, I did think the song quality increased by a notch, so I'm giving this a star higher than Siamese.
die erste songs seeehr seicht, ich glaub sie wönd e ernsti gschicht verzelle. jellybelly seeehr 90s alt rock goddamnit kurt. here is no why isch reeecht geil s solo slaaappt. bullet with butterfly wings isch nöd available anschinend ok wenner dumm tönd unds nöd uf qobuz lönd losis nöd. bi jetz bi love und de shit isch scho kreativ as hell ich checks. bin bi muzzke und respektiers immerno mega und finds guet und alles aber dur d längi vom album gibi de einzelne songs vieeel weniger ufmerksamkeit. s verschwimmt alles chli zu eim alt-rock mues. porcelina isch etz no cool gsi halt 5 songs i eim. aber ischmer scho gnueg POAHRCELIIHNAAA rüefe. bodies het mi chli ufgregt, chli viel noise für mich. thirty three osch cuute. 1979 au, cooli sounds. s ganze isch mer chli sehr teenage angst. tales of a scorched earth isch sochli noisy metal oköy mached i guess. jo aso finds etz sehr noisy stumbleine okay. nöd meh. X.Y.U. goht au 6 minute oder so. cooool. dezue tönter meistens wie en hässige teenager. sie chömed nur ide nacht use i guess? schad. song isch sicher en song. bruchtsen? ischer essenziell fürd musiggschicht? ha gnueg vo dem album. es isch seehr guet aber joooo ich ha hüt so viel smashing pumpkins glost fuuuuck. kei lied under vier minute gfühlt. lily my one and only okay. ich check scho nöd wie schribsch so viel lieder?? aso bisch afoch voll alles wo der in sinn chunt am ufschribe? scho beidruckend. farewell and goodnight okay endlich. ich gspür würklich nüme viel, bi so albe findi dörftmer mehreri täg haa. würkli z lang. gspür au gaaar nüt meh. wenn da eine vo 10 songs wär hetti vlt freud dra well er isch eignentli schön. glaub ich chan kei vieri geh au wenns mega gueti teil het, ha mi meh ufgregt drüber wiviel ich no mues lose. und am schluss ischs scho meh okay songs als mega geili.
bi 2h het das hoffentlich paar bangers s isntrumentalintro cute tonight tonight isch eig na cool, aber isch sini stimm scho bim andere album so nervig gsi? uhh jellybelly git chli gäse SEHR geil, de rest isch denn nümme soo krass aber jo hans gfühl da passt sini stimm auchli besser zero kenni glaub? so oder so sehr geil hahaha sie hend 30 lieder no cuttet vom album?? here is no why naja, d chords im refrain sind na cool hahaha zum glück sind gitarre nur bizli distorted to forgive git eim mal chli platz zum schnufe, di ganz atmosphäre gfalltmer sehr jz wieder meh pace mit ode to no one, finds recht cool cupid de locke sehr funny, au wenn chli nervig galapogos heter huere nasali stimm hahahaha gfalltmer aber no, mengisch bauet gitarre bass und giti uuf, ohni sich z "entlade, sondern es gaht wieder in gmüetlichere teil 9EHALBMINUTE take me down auno schön where boys fwar to tread sehr pathetisch iwie thirty three au rechr langwilig, wie au in the arms of sleep ok ja 1979 kenntmer glaub finds aber nöd unglaublich spannend scorched earth chli wie nirvana am ahfang? hett das musikalisch ko cool gfundr aber sini stimm isch hert ufd eier gange wiso um alles ide welt isch thru the eyes of ruby 7:30 lang, das hets nöd verdient und bringt 0 mehrwert x.y.u. erinneret mich chli ah korn iwie? mite komische mischig vo schreie und singe und de tempowechsel (korn wär eifach namal 5 mal weirder) ja wieder ähnlich, musikalisch findis eig na geil aber nach spötistens 5 min chönnts mal fertig sii furzbeat?? we only come out at night kinda funny BRUDER CHAN WIEDERMAL ÖPPIS PASSIERE ja also die erst hälfti hetmer exht über wiiti streckene gfalle. die zweit het 60% straight filler wo us irgeme grund 7 min gönd und 40% lieder, wo imene normale album als de "experimentelli usrisser" gulte hettet (so s drittletschte lied)
Like a 7.5, felt repetitive at some points even though it is a double album
First time listening - pretty good transitional album of early 90's as rock tried to figure out what to be.
To Forgive save me X U idk smth was the best song Yes, done, too long so probably wont listen again in a long time tho need to look up some lyrics
3.5. First heard 1979 while shwasted in the back seat of a convertible, which was amazing, but man, his voice is so grating
One thing this album has going for me is that it reminded me of one of my favorite song mashups of all time. Check out Neil Cicierega - Mullet with Butterfly Wings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRdSoZO-5mM Aside from that, it's fine.
I have a funny relationship with the Pumpkins - I love some songs, and there are a couple on here, but much is a low growl from which great music on occasion energes.
This is a hard rate. Certain songs are so so good. But then getting through the full 2 hours felt like a lot… so I’m going right down the middle
I like it. Would i buy it and listen on repeat? No. But it had my head bopping sometimes, and i think sometimes thats pretty important. It's two hours long, so its giving taylor swift if she turned grunge. I love the cover album i think its so cool. It's not my favorite but i can appreciate. favs: -Galapagos for sure - I have others but eh. Some songs are a skip for sure he’s just wailing into the microphone. Otherwise are quite beautiful
This album has some of the classic Smashing Pumpkins hits, but at the length, there’s just no glue holding it all together. I don’t care much for the band to begin with, but I do respect their career.
Some bangers, but too much filler
Its a lot but some bangers
Some of these songs are iconic from my youth/early adulthood. Corrigan’s voice can get a bit annoying at times, though, whiney even. There are some very well written songs on here though. But I don’t think a double album was necessary. I feel like there was one solid album, possibly three sides would’ve been good, but they just filled in with other stuff to make a full four sides. That kind of waters the whole thing down for me. Corrigan’s arrogance never sat well with me, either, so that kind of taints my enjoyment of anything Pumpkins.
Why is this album so long? It is too much. I like the softer and melodic songs on this album, and did not like the dark grungy songs. But also, I would have liked it more if it wasn't this long!!!!
A bit of a shame this - I love the Pumpkins, and I was excited to get this album. Then I saw that it was 2+hours long, which made me lose my enthusiasm for it! If this were just for disk 1, it would be an easy 4 - I love how even amongst all of the weird, against-the-grain music that was coming out of the 90s, TSP have such a distinct sound and feel. I just can't get behind the volume of music that was recorded for this release. Soz!
Great album! Double album wow! I think i listened a while ago. Could go for another listen, a lot to take in
A defining album at the time. While there are some great songs scattered throughout, as a whole the album is a way too long and has an erratic flow of emotions that feel incoherent next to each other.
Would probably make a cracking single album. Some classic Pumpkins riffs and songs surrounded by to much self indulgent bullshit
I enjoyed a lot of it, but man is this album long. I struggle with ones this long, I enjoyed many of the songs but lost the plot at times
It was ok. Was excited to hear it and did not live up to expectations
I enjoyed a lot of it, don't get me wrong, but if it had been half the length I still would have enjoyed it just as much.
Queen Elizabeth and her Billy Corgies
01) Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness - 6,5 02) Tonight, Tonight - 10,0 03) Jellybelly - 6,0 04) Zero - 6,5 05) Here Is No Why - 7,0 06) Bullet with Butterfly Wings - 10,0 07) To Forgive - 7,0 08) Fuck You (An Ode to No One) - 6,5 09) Love - 7,0 10) Cupid de Locke - 7,5 11) Galapogos - 8,0 12) Muzzle - 7,5 13) Porcelina of the Vast Oceans - 7,0 14) Take Me Down - 8,5 15) Where Boys Fear to Tread - 7,0 16) Bodies - 6,5 17) Thirty-Three - 7,5 18) In the Arms of Sleep - 8,0 19) 1979 - 10,0 20) Tales of a Scorched Earth - 5,0 21) Thru the Eyes of Ruby - 6,5 22) Stumbleine - 7,0 23) X.Y.U. - 6,0 24) We Only Come Out at Night - 7,5 25) Beautiful - 7,0 26) Lily (My One and Only) - 6,5 27) By Starlight - 7,0 28) Farewell and Goodnight - 7,0 TOTAL: 7,27 (73/100) Current ranking: 137/226 Tonight (tonight) the Smashing Pumpkins are performing at the InMusic festival, which I used to go to, but I wasn't attracted to the performers this year, so I decided to skip it this year. And as if this generator knew that, it assigned me their most popular album on this very day. "Tonight, Tonight", "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" and "1979" are familiar to me, moreover "1979" is one of my favorite songs from my teenage days considering the approximate year of my birth :-) Except for "1979" I wasn't really Smashing Pumpkins fan, I've never listened to this way too long album, so let's give it a go. Basically, this double album has everything. From very good, usually lighter songs, to harder stuff with terrible vocals and almost unlistenable screaming. I didn't regret not listening to them tonight (tonight). These two hours were too much for me anyway.
2.64
I was looking forward to this album as it had been so long since I listened to some Smashing Pumpkins. The first couple of tracks were great but VERY soon I realised how irritating Billy Corgans voice is. I also realised how try-hard the lyrics are, they are like a year 9 students first attempt at poetry, just juvenile rhyming angst. lol. My other big complaint is that the album is over 2 hours in length, which is just too much whinging to listen to in a single session. I loved the little bits of nostalgia that surfaced between Billy's pretend singing moans. Reading a bit about him, he also sounds like a bit of a narcissistic dick, although I'm sure this is a requirement for famous emo dudes. I love that 7 years ago Billy Corgan anounced that he "hates everything except for David Bowie." Nice one Billy, all is forgiven :-)
Il 3 più 3 che si sia mai visto. Intanto è troppo lungo, alterna momenti spettacolari a momenti meh, alla lunga la voce scoccia, Cupid De Locke canzone meravigliosa.
I enjoyed it, although I found it a bit long and it had some fillers.
I was in college when this was released. It was a Really Big Deal. To me, Gish and Siamese Dream are indisputable end-to-end masterworks of the era, and the Pisces Iscariot collection gathered together some quiet classics. So Mellon Collie was released with great expectation and considered closely in smoky dorm rooms for the better part of a year. This thing is neither a masterwork nor a classic. It remains as stubbornly bloated and overcooked today as was upon release. Lots of highlights; too many lowlights. The rat in a cage and the loneliess is happiness and god is empty stuff, coupled with the prog rock production, revealed Billy Corgan to be the clumsy and hamfisted rock writer he remains to this day. The rockers are weaker than the gentler stuff. I still love the second half of the second disc; there's some beautiful music there. And to be fair there's plenty of excellent songs sprinkled throughout. But getting from start to finish remains a slog for me, so many years later. A mixed bag, still. 3 stars.
First Smashig Pumpkins album I’ve ever heard
I was expecting to hate this one. While I already knew and liked Bullet With Butterfly Wings I hadn't really listened to much more of The Smashing Pumpkins. Imagining a whole 2 hours of that same sound seemed awful to me. While I do think this album is... entirely too long, I liked it better than anticipated. The main vocalist can be grating, but thankfully swaps it up enough that he's not always going for that "shrieky" sound. Also there were some songs that really enjoyed musically so I'll be taking more from this than I thought. Since it was so long, a lot of it started to bleed together, and I honestly have no clue how I even felt about most of the second half. I very much think if this was shorter, more edited down, or even split into two albums I would be giving this an additional star. As is I really debate if this is more of a 2 or 3 star album for me. There are great songs on here doing a lot of heavy lifting to make me want to give it a 3, but when I consider the entirety of the album and how forgettable a lot of it felt (probably mostly due to length and fatigue) I really want to make it a 2. Since I suppose that makes it a 2.5 and I have been rounding up my 3.5s, I'll make it a 3. This is really making me want a half star system though.
I remember how disappointed I was when this first came out and I bought it. I love, really love Gish and Siamese Dream and I didn't really like this, especially the tracks that got the most airplay. It was the last SP album I ever bought/listened to. I guess listening to it now almost 20 years later, it's not so bad. 7/10
3.5
Surprisingly enough, I have listened to the lengthy MCatIS in its entirety before. Borrowed it from the public library and listened in one sitting; main memories are that the album is way too long, kinda angry, and very screechy. This time through was not as rough; still way too long but Side A and F are actually good. The middle 2/3s of the album are nearly unlistenable filler with many very similar screeching songs. Length of the album puts this at the top of the 1001 too long album list, and has it come in at (3.1*s)
The Smashing Pumpkins and Mellon Collie are kinda hard to sum up. On the one hand, some of their finest work is absolutely on display. On the other hand, do we need 2+ hours and 30+ songs? After a listen I guess I feel like we do on this one. The huge quantity and wildly varied stylings from melodic ballads, grunge, hard rock, and everything in between are all integral to why this was such a smash on release. I remember the hits from this album were all over the radio for a spell, some of which are all-timers and definitely deserve to remain in the rotation 20+ years later. This album certainly has a reputation. I'm glad I gave it a listen in unison. Despite the fact that it will be a long time before I come back to it I can completely see why an angsty teen or early 20's rocker in the 90's would have fully identified with this. It's a solid album and great project despite some question marks. I fully understand why it catapulted SP and Billy Corgan up a couple levels for a bit. Billy Corgan has become a bit of a blowhard and the other SP work I've tested over the years has done very little for me but it shouldn't detract from Mellon Collie. Not my favorite but it belongs on the 1001. 2.93 stars
3.5★ Not exactly 2 hours of nonstop Greatness but there is indeed lots to like and at times even love about this. Certainly easy to admire the sonic eclecticism, though I personally prefer the poppier/dreamer/rockier stuff to the more metallic songs (Tales of a Scorched Earth in particular is quite woeful, though X.Y.U is decent). My biggest reservation lies in the vocals, vocals which are often unable to hit high enough registers when trying to be emotional and sound rather Billy-from-across-the-street type of unexceptional in the heavier material, though not without their moments. Lyrics aren't always a strength either. Too many songs liked to list but the ones that really knocked my socks off are Tonight, Tonight, To Forgive (this one in particular hit me hard), and Thirty-Three.
The Smashing Pumpkins have never pricked my interest and not aware of any of their stuff. So this was another welcome adventure into the unknown that this list throws up. The first track was lovely and melodic but this proved to be the best bit of this album. After a great start the album became a bit heavy for my tastes and confirmed what I always thought TSP were all about. I thought the lead vocals were also a bit sharp and whiny and got on my nerves after a while. However, I was listening whilst ironing and found myself once or twice moving to some of the heavy riffs around the ironing table so not all bad. All in all a mid 2/5 but nearer 3 than 2. 3/5 6/6/24
Double albums that aren't 'conceptc albums always fall foul of being just too damn long. While Mellon Collie is incredibly enjoyable, it isn't enjoyable for 2 hours. 6.5/10
A great single album hidden inside a double album. I'm not against a long album as long as it earns it, but I feel like with some cutting this could have been a front to back no skip album, but instead we have a lot of I memorable filler splitting up the moments of genius. The album's sequencing is also something I'm not a fan of. Multiple times they go straight from a nice subdued pretty song into just a wall of distortion, which while I can see what they were going for, is just completely ineffective in my eyes. Bump it: Galapagos, 1979, Jelly Belly, Thru The Eyes Of Ruby Skip it: Where Boys Fear To Tread, Cupid De Locke, An Ode To Noone, Tales Of A Scorched Earth
A decent album, classic songs Top tracks: Zero, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, To Forgive, 1979
I like this you can cancel me if you want but I love that it shifts genres midway through. I like the second half more, even though my favorites are in the first half, when it is more like whiny. The more mellow indie first half sounds a little folk and it also has way more harp and shoegaze vibes.
1. zadnezz - 1 2. tonight - 2 3. jelly - 1 4. zero - 1.5 5. uuhy - 1.5 6. bullet - 2 7. forgive - 1.5 8. ode - 1 9. love - 1 10. cupid - 1 11. galapagoz - 1.5 12. muzzle - 1 13. porcelina - 1.5 14. douun - 1.5 15. boyz - 1 16. bodiez - 1 17. 33 - 1.5 18. armz - 1 19. 1979 - 2 20. earth - 1 21. ruby - 1 22. ztumb - 1.5 23. z y u - 1.5 24. night - 1 25. beautiful - 1 26. lily - 0 27. ztarlight - 1 28. goodnight - 1
Bullet With Butterfly Wings is a great song. If I had to listen to an entire album, I would find the vocals annoying.
Loooong - but still beautiful. Some great tracks throughout. But it can be difficult to stay focused for the entire album.
Some bangers but my gosh it felt like there was some filler
I understand why this album is on here but I am not a big Pumpkins fan.
There was a time in the musical zeitgeist when a turn of phrase as farcical as "Emptiness is loneliness and loneliness is cleanliness and cleanliness is godliness, and God is empty just like me" would score you a Top 10 hit on actual radio. The year was 1995, kids, and this fucking band was inescapable. Especially "Tonight, Tonight" -- which I think may be one of the overwrought songs ever recorded. There's no mistaking that Billy Corgan can write angsty songs. A LOT of angsty songs. But his desire to be an artiste gets in the way of what should be something you can enjoy listening to. And I've never really liked his voice. What's interesting to me listening to all two hours of this monstrosity is that there are some songs where he actually sounds *good* and his voice lines up with the music. But his screeching (like on the horrid X.Y.U) just puts teeth on edge. And noisy guitar can be fine -- but some of this is just noodling. That said, there are some songs that have aged nicely. I've always liked "Muzzle" -- it's a great stadium rock song. "33" makes me think of Rolling Rock beer. In The Arms of Sleep is strangely affecting. But dear lord does the back half of Disc 2 just drag and drag. This is the Pumpkins "Use Your Illusion" -- which would have been great if it would have been a single rather than a double album. Same here -- you could compress this down to a single disc with the same range of styles and not lose anything.
Much prefer the debut album, classic double album that’s too ambitious in my opinion. 2.6
2 hours is egregious. I remember Alain said he listened to the 5 hour long deluxe version which is a little crazy. I liked the first disc more, the screeching vocals worked for some of the tracks, mostly because they were more high tempo. The second disc was mostly boring, wasn’t a fan of the slower tracks and the others didn’t sound great.
Not exactly my cup of tea on first listen, will give it another listen at some point though as I did actually quite like what I heard
Certainly a couple of good tunes in here, but it's not nearly as good as I remember. Even "Bullet" and "Tonight, Tonight" don't do much for me any more, it seems. "Love" isn't bad. "Thirty-three" and "1979" have stood the test of time, though. The "novelty" songs ("We only come out..." and "Lily") are still just that. Can't take them seriously - and I can't imagine that we were meant to.
I heard Cherub Rock in August ‘93 when it came out, and slowly over the next year, really absorbed it. It’s energy and Corgan’s way of tapping into your frustrations and rebellion at that age really resonated. That album is an absolute classic. I got into the history of rock and popular music when I went back to college that fall. Really delved into classic rock, jazz, and jam bands. By the time this album came out in ‘95, and Bullet With Butterfly Wings was the first single, it seemed out of touch. The song itself didn’t seem very good, and leaning into Corgan’s limited vocal range seemed like a terrible idea. I never had interest in hearing the album. It sounded to me like he had sold out to everything he was rebelling against previously. This rat-in-a-cage refrain sounded like a forced idea to sell this “rebellion”. I heard Tonight, Tonight, and then 1979. Tonight felt even more like them going pop, but 1979’s pop sensibilities worked for me. In short, I had no interest in listening to this album. Sounded to me like it was made for the pop charts. So now I’m finally listening to it. And … it’s OK. Some good songs here. Some not good songs there. Some tracks that are a little too grandiose or self-congratulatory. But overall it is a perfectly OK album.
Good album. One that I have a copy of. 1979 is the stand out track
A couple of great songs and a bunch of average ones. Pretty good album for the 90’s
"Tonight, tonight" was the only song I added to my library. Originally, scored the album as a 4. It's great chill music to put on in the background or drive to, however, I'm subtracting a point due to the length. Disc 2 is an unnecessary addition. If music is a journey, I felt I was driving 500miles nowhere listening to this.
It's good but just too long. If this were two separate albums it might have been better, but there doesn't seem to be a reason that this is a 2 hour album. Nonetheless, there are some great performances here, like on 1979, Farewell and Goodnight, and Tonight Tonight. The lead's voice isn't great, but it's unique and matches their style well. Great 90s rock, but could be a lot better.
Gave it a listen - not my taste
A good album, but way too long for me
I’d always meant to give this a go but never got round to it. It’s alright but goes on a bit
Wow, that was a slog. I liked how the vibes changed so often, but of course that means there were plenty of songs that I didn't vibe with. I did enjoy some songs, but I don't think any of them enough to seek them out again. This album was too long. More often than not, I would notice a track change and then several minutes later would think "bloody hell, we're still on this song?" We don't need 7+ minute songs.
I used to listen to this album all the time in middle school. Haven't played the whole thing through since then probably. I remember really liking the whole album and listening to it again after so many years, I don't think it really holds up as well as I thought it would. There are a few fantastic songs on this album - Tonight Tonight, Bullet with Butterfly Wings, Zero, 1979. Zero is probably my favorite on the album. But outside of those the record kind of drags a little bit. I think the 2 hour play time is excessive. I can see why this album has such mixed reviews. Billy Corgan certainly isn't for everyone. Assuming this is the only album on this list from Smashing Pumpkins, I'm surprised they chose this one instead of Siamese Dream. I know this one was commercially more successful and was higher up on the charts but I think Siamese Dream is a better album. 3.5/5 from me, rounding to 3 because it should have been half as long.
Not the thing to listen to when your packing (stressed)
Similar to the previous Smashing Pumpkins album, I still think the way the vocalist sings is really weird and off-putting. But songs and instrumentation are surprisingly high quality, at least on the first disc. And that's the main problem here for me (apart from the singing): the quality difference between the first and second discs is massive. I'd like to rate the first one 4 stars, but the second one a mere 2 stars. It feels more like a collection of B-sides than an album. Instead of 2 hours of some good stuff and some bad stuff by The Smashing Pumpkins, this could easily have been just 1 hour of only good stuff.
cool kids never had the time
Don’t know a lot of the Smashing Pumpkins catalog and was a little surprised at how much I enjoyed the music/arrangement Of their songs. Not a fan of the lead singers voice, but he does a good job with what he has.
Not sure why I like this screaming better than other screaming, but I do. Maybe it’s the variety of songs - the melodic ones that come after the yelling ones. The voice isn’t great, so it’s not that. My 45-year old self only likes about half this double album so 3 stars.
Handful of good songs, the rest of this bloated 2-disc album felt self indulgent and forgettable
It has all the 90's Emo angst that I typically adore, but listening to the entire album became a bit more grinding and repetitive than I needed on a Monday afternoon. An expansive work, with 2 volumes showcasing Billy Corgan's prolific output and talent. I liked a few tracks that had escaped my attention two decades ago including Cupid De Locke. 1979 remains the star of the show and made it worth getting to it on Volume 2.
2024-05-05...
I wasn’t the biggest fan of the last Smashing Pumpkins album on this list, but honestly this was a treat! I enjoyed most of the songs a bunch, but like with a lot of longer albums I did get fatigued by the end. Favourite track: Zero.
Buena Banda
the singles are good but he is just so damn pretentious...
80% of the album was 80% more rage than I expected. The start and end of the album was rly good, could have cut 8 of the middle songs
I was hoping this would make me have a greater appreciation for this band. Didn't work. Definitely worth a listen, but run of the mill 90s grunge, which never really spoke to me. I appreciate what that genre did to save Rock & Roll, however.
3.5 out of 5. Lots of standouts, but the album is just sooo long.
A lot of the same.
Popular alternative rock/grunge album from the mid-1990s. There are some really great songs on it (Tonight, Tonight, Cupid de Locke, We Only Come Out At Night, just to name a few) which could make this album an easy 4 if it wasn't 2-hour long. It's longer than any other album I've had so far, even longer the afaik the sole triple album on this list. It's just way too much, and too long. It's a shame that they couldn't put put out an album with the best 13-14 songs and instead they also released songs that are well below the level of other songs. I love the video clip for Tonight, Tonight and also the album cover for nostalgic reasons, but I feel the album as a whole doesn't deserve more than 3 (3.5) out of 5.
t h i c c
Als Mellon Collie herauskam, hat mich das Werk gar nicht gefallen. Heute war es schon eher, mein Fall, aber so richtig vom Hocker hat es mich nicht gehauen. Gute Konzeption, gute Unterhaltung
not horrible.
The one song I've heard before and a ton of others. It's comfy pop rock or something, and it's decent in my ears.
Very melancholic and grungy. The Pumpkins defined a sound of a generation of angsty teenagers. Listening to this record again after some decades, it still doesn’t resonate with me and it didn’t when I was an angsty teenager. It’s not a terrible record, just not my kind of sound, but I appreciate what it represents and how it shaped the landscape of music.
Hadn't heard much of these guys beyond the big radio hits and those hold up. Unfortunately, the rest of the two hour runtime isn't as good and a solid chunk goes beyond "not as good" and into "just not good". I think I would have given this a 4 if it was average length. Points for diversity though.
*Another* Smashing Pumpkins album?!!! I'm not sure why they'd really warrant two (or more?) entries in the 1001 album collection, and it always seems like a perverse form of torture to inflict a double album on any but true fans anyway. (Worse, the YouTube music link went to some 5-hour version of the album with 92 songs, which was fortunately so long that I knew it wasn't the version I should have gotten.) I've always wanted to like them more than I do. And this album didn't help, with it's annoying Belle-Epoque-style cover and title (although in some ways they occasionally *do* have a Hugo-like aesthetic, so maybe it's fitting?). However, at least there's more range on this album than on "Siamese Dream"...
my ex used to listen to this album and so I've already paid my dues. I'm sure it's fine if only I could remember it....
What a range of emotions. I didn't realize the album was a double disc, it seemed to mostly blend together after a while.
OK
2 hours. Buckle up. At least it is a reputable band and not someone unheard of so it's a bit easier to prepare for this. Album feels like a bit of a grab bag with some whimsical sounding songs and some grungy songs. Definitely some of their more popular songs sprinkled in here as well. As with most albums, they tend to lose points for me when they are this long. The singer's voice is not that wonderful, but the instruments go! Tales of a Scorched Earth was pretty bad. As was XYU. I think there is a lot of good stuff in this album and I really like the variety, but I feel like as it gets longer I start to pick up more on the songs I don't like. It's like they're cutting their product with filler. The musicians should leave that practice to the cartels. Definitely has a some high 4 potential, but it slowly crept into the 3.5 category and then I was just happy for it to be over. Side 1 was significantly better than Side 2.
Oof this is a long one. Apparently they went into it with the Beatles White album as inspiration and says it is "The Wall for Gen X." That's a pretty high pedestal to put yourself on for a 2 hour album. The first half of the album def has some jams that I know and love but never necessarily seek out. All in all pretty solid just wondering if they can keep it up for another *checks watchless wrist* hour and a half. Cupid de Locke is a random pretty one that's in a different vein than most other Smashing Pumpkins I know. Really beautiful sections of Porcelina. Was worried looking at the 9 minutes but that was highly enjoyable. Nothing sticking out too much on the back half so far, but obviously know 1979 which is good enough. Tales of a Scorched Earth is probably my least fav song so fav. Don't really like the mixing of it something sounds off. Then goes into a song Thru the Eyes of Ruby which I'm enjoying. This album took awhile to get through and that's probably why I find it a bit disjointed. Way too long to be as enjoyable as it could be. Middling 3.
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Well, here I am listening to this album. When The Smashing Pumpkins hit it big with this album, I was intrigued and I wanted very much to like them. Indeed, I do like some of their songs, but listening to this album is a bit hard. This is my first time and here are my thoughts. My first reaction was...wow! so many discs to listen to. And on Spotify, at least, the reissue is not in the order of the original, so I am painstakingly flipping between tracks to listen to the original order. I am a traditionalist. I like the sound. I really like the singles. But unfortunately, all of the songs start blending together and they aren't so distinctive. My feeling is that this could've been a great record had there been an editor to cut it down to a manageable size. There is good stuff here, but it gets lost among everything. This is just my opinion, but there's no way that I could listen to nearly 3 hours of their music nonstop.
Fantastic mammoth album, though its length drags it more than expected. The singles in this are iconic, and some of the deeper cuts occupy a privileged spot in the Smashing Pumpkins' discography. Unfortunately, I'm very strict when listening to double albums, so the lesser songs did affect my experience.
The occasional utterly amazing track mixed up with way too many oki-ish songs . I quite liked it when i was younger , but not my thing anymore as a full album .
Nice, but gets kinda repetitive. Double feature that could have been trimmed a little more imo
I love Siamese Dream. Top 10 album for me. I couldn’t wait to buy this when it was released! Anddddd never cared it for it much. I still want to punch stuff when I hear tonight tonight come on. Zero slays
I have always like their sound instrument wise, but they sure are lyrically depressing. I guess the album is aptly named.
Some of the songs are too much but others like the first song allow the listener to clear their mind from the madness made out of sadness
Ok look, this album has some really good songs on it like "Bullet with Butterfly Wings", "1979", "Zero", but it just doesn't need to be so freaking long. I do not understand why Billy thought making a double album would be a great idea. I don't want to listen to his voice for 2 hours. It starts to sound whiny after 2 songs. However I did like the variety between lullaby feel songs and the grittier, grungier feeling songs, that made this not absolute agony to sit through. I feel this deserves a 3.5 but I can't give it that so it's getting a 3.
it's a solid "meh" album. like the variety of sounds & tempos, some solid tracks, but the super long run time is a negative. and it's a whole lot of Billy.
A very long album. I could not listen to it in day. Some of the songs are very edgy and had a hard sound to them.
A couple good songs, but generally a blah album for me. I just never really liked their sound.
Could have, and should have, been a single album. It was ok, just way too long.
William Corgan is a good songwriter. The man writes a hell of a hook. Just look at his collaborations with Courtney Love. Billy Corgan is a godawful front man. His delivery is just trash. I know I suffered from pumpkin fatigue because I was still a young person when this album dropped, and you simply couldn't escape it. And the audacity of dropping a double album when you're a pop band is the height of hubris. Tonight, Tonight was on heavy rotation on MTv for, like, *ever*, and it's just not that good (yes, despite the fact it has a killer hook). And the band fell apart a few years after this release. So, yeah. Hubris, then. All that aside. 1979 is one of the best-arranged pop songs there ever has been, and I *will* fight you on this. I had never sat down and listened to this whole thing, and many parts of this (very too long) release surprised me. Some even delighted me. But I still have a visceral cringe reaction to Billy Corgan's voice, and you can't take that away from me.
3.5. Some hits. A lot of filler.
3.3 stars rounded down. "1979" and "Tonight, Tonight" are beautiful masterpieces. Even second string singles like "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" and "Zero" are great. It is unfortunate these tracks are embedded in 2 hours of mediocre filler.
The songs on this album wasn't bad but they just where not for me. And personally this album was way to long for me, when i lissen to new music i like to take good time and really lissen to the songs too find out which ones ii like and what stands out to me, so if the album was shorter or i had more time to lissen to this i feel like it would have been more enjoyable.
Pas de quoi faire un album de 2h hein
Interesting mix of their talents.
A massive, daring, and expansive follow-up to the masterpiece, "Siamese Dream". It's basically about two hours of them exploring sounds beyond their usual creamy brand of grunge. Experimenting with different instruments, including salt shakers and scissors. They would put as many as 70 guitar tracks in one song. Corgan reportedly played the guitar until his fingers "saw blood", and turning up the amp so loud the whole thing was on the verge of exploding. The resulting tracks range from acoustic melancholies to heavy pieces that almost qualify as metal. Overall, it's a sprawling experience that is more exhausting than uplifting, personally.
This was my brother's teenaged angst album. I'd never listened to the whole thing through, and well I'm not sure I'm better off for it. It was so long. So so long. Fairly samey after a while. I still liked a couple of the tracks at least.
Undeniably epic. But I still just don’t love that whiny voice of Billy’s, okay?? I’M SORRY, internet.
It did not need to be this long. I enjoyed it but lordy. I was also shocked to read the wiki and that this has been certified diamond and was the the number one album on billboard. It just goes to show how weird of a time the 90s were for music. Also that’s what she said to my first sentence
The new holder of the Skyrim award. Such a huge amount/variety of content. It really is a sign of the times though. If I had to pay $10 for an album like this vs $10 for a 45 minute album, the value would be insane. The problem is that time is a lot more sacred in music now because of accessibility and streaming. I don’t just have a cd in my car, instead I can stream basically whatever I want. As a result, this album becomes a chore to listen to after some time. That being said, they spread their hits out very well on the album and it was definitely generally enjoyable. It would at least be a 4 if they took 40 minutes of the best songs and made an album out of that. I really do applaud the band for the work as a whole. It’s just not captivating enough for me to not feel inconvenienced listening to the whole thing.
It was pretty cool! Some of the slower songs were nice i didnt love the lead singer's voice though.
Zero brought up childhood memories. Definitely a precursor to emo music of the 2000s. Not totally my jam.
Quite good no album has to be over 2 hours tho.
Good lo-fi down low. Despite all my rage, I’m still just a rat in a cage.
id like the loud parts more on a faster day and the soft parts more on a slower one. shockingly long, there absolutely ARE good songs on this album, if you have the patience to listen through 5 okay ones in between each. favorite new track is To Forgive
Weird one for me, absolutely loved half of it and absolutely hated the other half.
Dużo za długie. Ale nie najgorsze. 3/5
wow first song has over 1m views right off the bat nice. sounds nice and calming and beautiful so far...no words tho.... next song tonight tonight has SIXTEEN MILLION VIEWS omg and it has lyrics. its an alright song. its really intense and like...a movie soundtrack or something stopped listening at jellybelly. continue from there
Somehow angstier than I had already thought from Bullet with Butterfly Wings. I do really like 1979, but didn't much enjoy the rest of the album.
Better, but soooo long
A lot of great stuff here (first six tracks might have you hovering over the 5 stars - and that doesn't even include the best track of the bunch, "1979"), but there's just SO. MUCH. FILLER! One of the most "double album-y" double albums of all time.
I'm not sure this needed to be a double album.
- Alt for langt - For generic - Få gode sanger + Et par bangers
Not as cohesive of an album as I would have liked. Many songs felt underwhelming and out of place at times. Siamese Dream feels like more of a complete listening experience.
rly loving the spotify background graphic with them jumping and falling. relate. they should play this in more dentists office waiting rooms. already had some songs liked from this album but hearing it all the way through is not the way to hear these songs for me.
i mean it's the smashing pumpkins alright... billy corgi... its real long... its got some ballads and bangers... Galapogos...
Um yeah so do you all know this band, The Smashing Pumpkins? They are really underground... yeah... I'm sure you've never heard of them. If I lived in the 90's, absorbed in the thralls of Grunge this would make me go absolute feral. I think I prefer Siamese Dream but they're just about at the same level - middle of the road and not something I would necessarily listen to on a day off. Fortunately for Virgin Record Sales, the grind never stops. This album is so long, a lot of the songs start to meld together when listening. A few standouts other than the obvious are Here Is No Why, Cupid De Locke, In The Arms Of Sleep, Lily (My One And Only) - I am a sucker for love songs, and Farewell and Goodnight. The last one has female vocals on it and I love to hear more than Corgan being sad. I enjoy Billy Corgan's voice, I think he writes emo ass lyrics (seen in every song... my dreams are dead yada yada ok chat gpt... I am kidding some lyrics are good). I was tired of the music by the second disc. It's super long and obviously Corgan is working through stuff. Fun facts: - The Smashing Pumpkins headlined LalaPalooza in 1994. - Prior to Madison Square Garden Shows, keyboardist Melvoin died from a heroin OD and the drummer Chamberlin survived his OD but was FIRED. - Female bassists :) D'Arcy Wretsky played for majority of bands big career and was replaced by Hole Bassist Auf der Maur
Two... hours? There are a number of good tracks on this, and it has the iconic "Bullet With Butterfly Wings," "1979" "Zero" (my son's favorite track of theirs). But... two hours of listening to Billy Corgan whine is asking a LOT. At least this isn't really a concept album; sure there's a thematic concept, but that's it. "Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage..." It's such a great line, it's undeniable. Still... two hours? That's asking too much of me.
Why is this such a long fucking album :c Intro track was really good actually love the instrumental Okay the fucking singer sounds like he has half a pussy and a full dick in his mouth I came in here expecting to hate this but I really didn’t mind it, atleast so far I haven’t hated it, the lyrics are kinda stupid but I like the rock grunge feel to it. They tried way to hard to make a rock album that it’s embarrassingly obvious that they had no clue what they were doing None the less… Who ever is singing this shit should kill himself 3.1/5
Best Songs: Tonight Tonight, Zero Listen Again: Probably not
Definite melancholia inducing album. Gave me serious flashbacks to the O.C. but I've no idea if they even used this for any part of the soundtrack.... Some parts had too much screaming for my liking but that's a personal preference. Favs: "Tonight, Tonight", "Thru the Eyes of Ruby", "Stumbleine", "Beautiful", "Lily (My One and Only)",
This album have been describe has "The Wall for generation X", it got a pretty good artwork and the CD have cool design and a booklet with the lyrics of the songs that reminds us of a old story book. The album is goddman long too, i'm never sure about double album to be honnest, any of them, sometimes they are just too long with very random and "useless" songs, even if the album have a concept like this one, or the wall. The album goes from instrumental, to art rock with an orchestra to classic grunge and alt rock, its pretty intersting. Some songs that stand out, among 28 we have Tonight Tonight (with the orhestra is very beautiful) JellyBelly one of the hardest song on the reccord. Zero is also pretty hard and its one of their best known I like the riff in Here Is No Why The others song are not bad, simply not so much impactfull i think, they range from calm and melodic song, to heavy in your face alt rock.
An album ruined with hubris. It's too god damn long
An absolute mess of an album, incoherent, way too long, jumps between styles way too quickly, and the guy really struggles to sing (which isn't an issue when he stays in his lane, but he really doesn't). But, it's punctuated by some absolutely great singles - Bullet With Butterfly Wings, 1979, and Tonight, Tonight are really good songs that don't overstay their welcome, unlike the album as a whole. Makes it quite hard to rate, so I'll go (unsurprisingly) down the middle with a 3, the incoherence and the filler balancing out the patchy greatness.
Thought it was alright. Good music, didn’t love the singing, because I’m not a hard rock fan
Moderately interesting, some good tunes.