The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady

ok i like this game again

This Mingus album is a lingus test for good music. Er, sorry, litmus test. It created a sort of mingua franca for all future jazz releases. Er, sorry, lingua franca. Please don't forget it's mingUS not mingYOU or mingME Fav song: Group Dancers prolly which has that riff that is good enough for an entire album of its own (also repeated in track 4)

This was recorded in one day, these cats were on top of their game. I've been a fan of Mingus for a while. When a much younger me was a bass player I always paid more attention when the bassist had a prominent role in writing. This really is a masterpiece. 5 stars all day.

3.5 - Good

really like this one

This was pleasant to listen to thank you mr Mingus

Lovely instrumentation, improvisation, and conception.

Meh

The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady is a steamroller of a record, a steamy soundtrack to some sort of excessive yet controlled bash, a cosmopolitan assembly, a rooftop brawl. A fearsome lot is going on on this album, but the main point is understood: the center couldn't hold, but the collapse has a beauty, a logic of its own. Mingus put together one of the greatest albums of all time w/ this four-piece masterpiece, and I do not tire of listening to it. Strangely too, it fits more moods than you'd initially think: there's quiet in it, there's stillness, there's a supported contemplativeness, particularly at the outset of the third movement. The ever-fertile touch is Jay Berliner's Spanish guitar work. America's composer after Duke and Monk is Mingus.

Not the most compelling jazz I’ve ever listened to, but alright.

smooth jazz

maravilloso maravilloso maravilloso

Man, I fucking love this music. It's my favorite type of jazz. Track B was the jam. I will be listening to more of this gentleman. This is a 5 from me.

Charles Mingus: The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady: This is a pretty cool jazz album. A lot of complicated melodies and such. It is very cool, though not something I could listen to all the time. It is both beautiful and chaotic, the piano parts and percussion are excellent. The saxophone can be a little much, but it is mostly very cool. A very nice album even if its a little much at times for my tastes. 8.25/10

Have heard about this album before but never listened to it until it came up on the generator. The playing is outstanding. I liked this. It's not on the level as Kind of Blue or Love Supreme but this is a solid album.

Nunca he sido muy fan de los discos instrumentales sin más, y el jazz muchas veces me da dolor de cabeza así que no ha sido muy espectacular (el Track A me martilleo un pelín) El Track C es mucho más mi rollo, más tranquilito aunque sigue teniendo sonidos fuertes que me llegan a cansar rápido.

I think jazz music is just not for me

Brilliant. One of the best Jazz albums.

Was already familiar with this album. One of my favorite jazz albums. And was the perfect choice for this gloomy summer day in SF. 5/5

This whole album sounds like cartoon detective cats are hot on my trail and I'm laying low in a jazz club on a night where there's a wild interpretive dance act on stage.

Another Jazz album which I am sure is fantastic if you are a jazz and blues fan, but I cant really discern it from the plethora of others. Good background music. 3 stars

Bit short to fully appreciate

Genial

Loved it! These jazz musicians were the real thing!

Horns scream, bass wanders, everything spirals into a beautiful nervous breakdown. One point off for making me feel like I should be shooting heroin instead of sitting on the couch eating chips.

Un álbum perfecto. Es tan bueno que me he dado cuenta que el disco solito te va enseñando a cómo escucharlo y sobre todo cómo apreciar el género. Cómo ir notando cada instrumento que forma parte de un todo absolutamente genial. Increíble.

*Short jazz album. *Good stuff, but need to revisit to give it a better listen - just had it on in the background. RATING - 6/10

Delightful indulgent Jazz record.

I can dig it

Nice relaxing music thx

Don't know the classic jazz well enough to criticize it. Quite enjoyed this one, but probably wont feel the urge to listen to it again, at least not in the near future.

Well…. Just amazing. Imagine how this would sound live!

This isn’t a bad album by any means. But this kind of jazz hits me hardest when it’s live. Right now, I’m listening to it while working, so it’s only three stars for me.

It's jazz. Most of it the good kind with notes in sensible order, some of it is just running fingers on one instruments or another. I did listen to it all the way through, heard some of that... old timey theater music, what ever it's called. This is not something I'd put on myself, but it's not offensive and I don't mind listening to it.

It’s just too disjointed and all over the place for me. Wish I was cool enough to like it.

Absolutely brilliant, a jazz essence that very much travels around a lot of genre of style. Gorgeous strumming and beautiful horn play, I am hooked.

Kind of experimental but in a good way. I will definitely listen to it again.

Oof.

No sé si me termina de gustar, muy monótono como si solo tocaran instrumentos de forma enérgica sin decirme nada

Raro, no me distustó, algunos temas me daban vibes de investigación privada yankee de los '30

Me gusta el jazz falopa pero creo que este era demasiado. Muy individuales los instrumentos

Enregistré en 1963 par le volcanique Charles Mingus, "The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady", est un ballet sans danseurs, une psychanalyse sans divan, un cri du coeur et de l'âme orchestré avec une précision de maître. Charles Mingus a conçu "The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady", non pas comme une collection de morceaux, mais comme une suite continue, une seule et même pièce en six mouvements fluides et interconnectés. Il fusionne la ferveur du gospel, la sensualité du blues, la sophistication de la musique de chambre classique et, de manière saisissante, les couleurs ardentes du flamenco, incarnées par la guitare de Jay Berliner. Ce dernier n'est pas un simple soliste, il est le contrepoint, l'âme espagnole qui dialogue avec la fureur cuivrée du big band. La structure de l'œuvre est un tour de force. Les thèmes apparaissent, se transforment, disparaissent pour mieux resurgir sous une autre forme. Les sections de cuivres dialoguent avec une puissance dramatique, les saxophones (portés par un Charlie Mariano impérial) pleurent et hurlent, tandis que la section rythmique, menée par la contrebasse tellurique de Charles Mingus et la batterie inventive de Dannie Richmond, est le moteur implacable de cette machine musicale complexe. L'album est une succession de climats, passant sans prévenir de la tendresse la plus désarmante à des explosions de colère chaotiques, d'une sensualité moite à une angoisse quasi palpable. C'est une musique incroyablement visuelle, qui évoque la passion, le conflit, la danse, la prière et la lutte intérieure. Les célèbres notes de pochette, rédigées par le psychologue de Mingus, le Dr. Edmund Pollock, ne font que confirmer cette dimension : nous assistons à une mise à nu, à l'exploration des dualités qui animent le compositeur – le "Saint" et le "Pécheur". En conclusion, "The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady" reste l'un des sommets absolus de la musique du XXe siècle. L'album ne contient pas de "tube" facile, pas de mélodie que l'on fredonne distraitement, c'est une oeuvre dense, touffue, qui ne laisse que peu de répit à l'auditeur. Elle exige une écoute active, une concentration de tous les instants. Par moments, la superposition des couches sonores, la tension permanente et le flot ininterrompu d'idées peuvent devenir étouffants. C'est un voyage exigeant et parfois ardu, mais dont la récompense est immense. Charles Mingus y a gravé son testament artistique, une oeuvre-monde d'une richesse inépuisable qui continue de fasciner, de dérouter et d'émouvoir plus de soixante ans après sa création. Ce n'est pas seulement un disque à écouter, c'est une expérience à vivre. Un 3 sur 5

Multilayered masterpiece that stands as one of my favorite jazz albums due to its experimental and complex nature

felt like i was being spoken into my soul, like i was watching someone’s inner and most deep thoughts in front of me, not all of them were bad, most of em were beautiful like nothing else. it was a beautiful listen.

не моё, но может быть переслушаю

Best album of all time, opened my eyes

Cant go wrong with jazz. Wasn't a huge fan of those acoustic guitars tho.

Solid jazz album, great playing, not a ton of memorable melodies but probably would need a lot of listens to really start clicking

Boring

Okay, you know, I'm not usually big on these jazz albums, and I wouldn't listen to this very casually I think, but this is a really fucking solid jazz album. Cool stuff here, very lively, nice motifs, just good stuff.

I'm not fucking around when I say it's maybe the best album of this challenge so far, about a tenth of the way in. I'd give this a 6/5 if I could. This is the type of jazz I'd call captivating. It made me want to lie down and close my eyes to take nothing but the music in. The second time I listened to it, with my headphones, I felt like I was being carried away. Impeccable.

Oh my god. I get it. I've heard this album twice before and never really enjoyed it as much as some of Mingus' other works, but something about it just... really clicked in this time. The sheer scale of the work, and its legitimate comparisons to classical works, unlocked its full depth for me. I'm excited to give this one more listens soon.

This was some HEAVY ass jazz. A lot of good stuff going on, but also just a lot going on in general.

What a freaking journey, man. This album takes you through so many moods, at times switching them up all rapid-fire like, but with a real sense of narrative behind it all. I could not tell you exactly what the intended story about - all I know is it's a ballet with a black saint and a sinner lady somewhere in there - but the emotional beats, the musical callbacks, the cathartic fuckin ending, they're all pretty evocative even without any lyrics. Hell, I'd consider the Spanish guitar as its own character the way its appearance (and later reappearance) had me hyped the fuck out. Incredible stuff that goes beyond just jazz here. Love the way everything comes together. It'll need a few more listens to fully digest, especially the more cacophonic parts, but I feel good about a 5 given the peaks it had on these first two listens

Mingus is so awesome. His music both demands and rewards your undivided attention. Very rarely do i listen to an album without getting distracted, checking my phone, or cleaning, but I sat down and enjoyed this one uninterrupted. So many interesting ideas and you never know what he'll do next - and in my opinion, this isn't even his best album.

Between big band and a little experimental Jazz from the 60-ies.

Interesting one. When I first opened the album I was surprised to see only 4 tracks and thought it'd be a short one, only to see the last track Mode D / E / F is almost 19 minutes in length lol. Unfortunately I just don't seem to really get it. Often, a lot of things were going on at once and I didn't quite see how it fit together; other times weren't as bad, but then I was waiting for a satisfying progression that never came about. I think there's a world where I can come to appreciate this album more, I did relisten to the final track a short while after the initial album listen and it did bear more fruit than expected, but I'm not crazy enough about the rest of the tracks to really try to cram it into the 'enjoying' part of my brain. Track A isn't the best start, perhaps somewhat slower than I imagined it'd be going in. Sometimes I thought the amount of instruments playing at once was a bit overwhelming. It seems to contrast the idea of it being meant for a solo dancer, intentional or not. I feel pretty similar about Track B. I became a bit more interested when things started to pick up into somewhat of a swing rhythm but it never really went anywhere satisfying for me unfortunately. Track C was thankfully a bit of a turning point. I can't quite put my finger on why but it feels a lot more cohesive and interesting to me. The Spanish(?) guitar in the middle was a fun touch. Later on in the song it seemed to fall into the same ways that made me not really vibe well with the first two songs but I definitely enjoyed it more on the whole. [First Listen] Mode D / E / F feels like more of the same. I noticed a part of Track C which I liked reappear here so maybe it's clearly supposed to act as a culmination but I couldn't really tell you if anything else is being referenced again here. Just feeling a bit worn out halfway through. It's a shame because there are parts I do like, in this track and throughout the record but it's all hidden throughout parts I find confusing and not that enjoyable. [Second Listen] I decided to listen to Mode D / E / F again since my friend had a completely different view on the album to me. I think my feelings on the other tracks will remain the same but I can at least say I like this track in particular a little bit more now that I've had a break from listening. It kinda sucks that it's at the end, I don't think that does it any favours. FAVOURITES - Track C; Mode D / E / F LEAST FAVOURITES - Track A

I went in to this album expecting to give a relatively low score, and after the getting most of the way through track A I felt that a 2 or maybe 3 was in order. It started somewhat slowly and felt a bit repetitive. It's unfortunate the album starts in the way it does because I feel it can easily put someone off the album, it certainly did for me, leading me to pay less attention to the coming tracks. I re-listened later to rectify this after thoroughly enjoying the final track. When the saxophone came in during Track A though I knew there was something special about this album. Unfortunately, Track A to me is still the worst, the initial section goes on for too long, whereas the other tracks are consistent with sprinkles of magic throughout this only really takes off when the saxophone comes in. But when it comes, wow. It steals the show. Throughout the album you'll so often be hit with a bunch of instruments at the same time and yet somehow it just works, sometimes it feels like the music is screaming out, other times that different instruments are at odds with each other but intentionally so. The opening to track B is so beautiful, slow and serene, with a pretty piano and later on delightful horns. Then it sounds like something is approaching, almost cartoonish then these weird like vocal sounds come in which I love and the track just keeps gaining pace, its exciting and has this impending feel to it. Eventually it finally calms down, near silence, then bam, back to life once more. C starts with a pretty relaxed piano, simple yet super effective. The flute throughout is such a beautiful addition, then we get hit with this Spanish guitar. I have no clue how it manages to balance all of this without sounding like an absolute mess. I have to imagine there is a lot being said here that I'm missing due to my lack of fluency with music in general. The last track is a long one, 18 minutes, and it does not disappoint. Again it's hard to my finger on exactly what it is doing but it made me feel such strong emotion. Beyond it being somewhat positive I'm not sure how to describe it, I want to say hope with a hint excitement but I don't think that quite covers the range, but it had such a weight to it; I can name few other songs that achieve the same. I will note, this isn't the easiest or most fun listen at times. I wouldn't expect to come back to this music much. Despite that, what this album managed to achieve for me is extremely impressive, and I can only imagine my appreciation for it growing over time. Best tracks - Track B- Duete Solo Dancers, Track C- Group Dancers, Medley: Mode D / Mode E / Mode F Worst track - Track A- Solo Dancer

Super

I'm still not into jazz.

Good, a Spanish influence not dissimilar though not as extensive as sketches of Spain. A good blend of bebop and experimental elements.

What is there to say?

Heard many times, great but not up there with ah um

Wow, a creepily good album. It's like a movie was playing in my head. Haunting, thrilling, and often threatening. Could I listen to this album forever? I don't think so, but at the moment it's haunting me. Strangely, in this threatening backdrop, this strange, somewhat out-of-place Spanish guitar keeps appearing. A wonderful album, but only for people who can handle it. Someone is playing with their demons. 5 stars. Classy and creepy.

8/10… free Jazz

Na ja. Ich bin eigentlich Jazzfan. Aber das ist mir frei und wild.

This album feels like one long developing song. It is really solid overall, although the sounds of the trumpet that kind of sound human were a bit unsettling. Track A - Solo Dancer was my favorite.

I got into this album years ago because of Thom Yorke. He said the “traffic jam” sound of The National Anthem was influenced by Charles Mingus, so I had to check him out. This record really itches my brain in the right way. It actually became one of my go-to albums for research and writing papers in grad school. Maybe chaotic avant-jazz was not the best soundtrack for writing essays. And I did have some severe anxiety and perfectionism issues throughout that time… if anything, maybe this music reflected my state of mind. To this day, I still love this record. The cacophany just sounds right to me. I find it soothing, not stressful. I don’t know what that says about me.

This album is a lot. Very jazzy... but also kind of abrasive and overwhelming. It's certainly not smooth. It's more of a sprawling epic assault... in a good way. It constantly moves between genres and tempos and moods... building up and crashing back down. Some parts feel like the soundtrack to a Hitchcock film. Some bits feel like they're strait out of film noir. Some passages are purely latin acoustic guitar. And that list of 3 doesn't even scratch the surface of the variety on this album. But somehow it still feels very cohesive? It's a lot to digest in 1 or 2 listens. There is so much going on. I need more time with it. I have a feeling this one will grow on me. The second listen already made more sense than the first. Side note: I can definitely feel the influence of this album on genres outside of jazz. Any sort of rock, punk, post-rock or prog album with weird abrasive sax owes this album a shoutout.

Jazz

A bit chaotic but good

Great album. It manages to be very chaotic but seemingly organised at the same time. For how 'out there' his music is, it is remarkably easy to digest. Don't really listen to Mingus that much, but I don't really know why this is the release that everyone seems to drool over. I personally like The Clown and Ah Um better. Still a great album, but it doesn't win me over like some other jazz records do.

Epic

Not for me.

Sounds a bit disjointed and cacophonous

Un buen álbum para crear un buen ambiente. Maybe no tan fan escucharlo con cascos. Buenas vibras para empezar el día

WTF? How do people listen to Jazz? Started out bad and never got better! Can you add a 0 stars option?

Maybe after years of Jazz this will make sense. Right now I do not get it. Mingus moves is much better.

Fantastic instrumental/jazz album. Not my typical listening fare—that’s all that kept it from 5 stars for me personally.

This is pretty great, not that I'll pretend it's something I'll put on regularly. But it's surprisingly melodic and easy for my brain to follow.

It seems to be an album that you either love to pieces, or get a bad headache from, and I'm among the last category.

Very disjointed. Very passionate

Interesting but I wouldn't relisten. Jazz but weird, a bit more like a chaotic experimental classical piece - I didn't dislike it like I do most jazz, and I appreciated what they were trying to do, but it just didn't spark for me.

Сложная для восприятия музыка, хотя некоторые эпизоды звучат интересно. 5 из 10.

Wanted to give this five stars. Clearly an amazing work. A little too rambling and lengthy for my taste.

Jazz ain't my thing

148/1089 - I like Mingus's songs better. For example: Nostalgia in Times Square, Moanin, Fables of Faubus, etc. Overall, Mingus is definitely an important jazz composer, and had a quite different mind for arrangement than many of his contemporaries, but this album isn't the best showcase of that. The compositions themselves are good but the backgrounds and comping are very repetitive and the players sound like they just discovered the octatonic scale and want to show off all they're cool altered chords to each other. The "Ah Um" album is an easy 5 star.

Very jazz but liked it

Flagship Jazz album here. Mingus is a true master of jazz orchestration. Horns wail on this thing unlike many jazz albums. Mingus uses them to communicate fiercely and in honest fashion. They meander, they trail off and squawk back into centerfold at breakneck speeds. There's so much character in each of the compositions. The supporting instruments, usually in the form of strings (including piano) are incredibly bold but never cloud the stage or take anything away from the pacing. Mingus is raw and Mingus certainly plays no games. It's a wonderful record, and one that would like to argue with you at any time of day. The closer ties it up so nicely by revisiting the instrumental themes but speeding up and playing even more intensely a 3rd or 4th time around, then slowing them down and playing it entirely differently results in a new mood. Expression is potent stuff.

Excellenf

Awesome! Didn't know this, but I loved it.

5 A classic Jazz album that doesn't sound like a classic Jazz album. Meticulous composition from Mingus that skillfully matches themes and variations from Classical music with the undercurrent of Jazz. Masterful and still beautiful.

i try with jazz like this, i honestly do but i guess i just find it background music in the end. that is on me

Extraordinary record combining social history, outre jazz and remarkable songwriting

I don’t know much about Jazz so I guess this is good? I do know because he is American born I will give an extra star.

Solid for what it is, though not what was needed today.

I sometimes feel like I just don’t understand jazz. This is technically brilliant and I like it, but I don’t love it. And that’s how I generally feel about jazz.

Boring jazz

Rating: 6/10 Do not enjoy the blaring horns much, the last song saves this. Filled with many different interesting movements and some very catchy melodies, the final song is great from start to finish. The rest of this is just okay.

Yeah, it's jazz for sure.

Quite enjoyed it despite not being my usual thing

Artiste connu de nom. Quelques belles improvisations (trop peu) dans cet album (+1), mais je ne suis pas vraiment réceptif à l'instrumentation (trop de cuivres qui me cassent les oreilles), et je trouve que le son a mal vieilli. De plus je ne trouve pas les morceaux ni intéressants ni mémorables. Je ne l'écouterais pas une seconde fois. =>2/5

a classic is a classic

la la land was right, I need to see jazz to actually fell it

Great musical talent, just not my cup of tea

Wow, there is something compelling about this. It really drew me in. Going to see this live with the intended ballet would be amazing. Apparently ‘third stream’ is the sub genre for me. I really dig the fusion of jazz and classical. What a lovely discovery

Hardcore jazz is powerful music, but not for me. 2/5

The jazz trumpet sounds like a fart.

Is the band supposed to be warming up for the whole album? Who needs water boarding when this album exists …

is this what a nervous breakdown sounds like?

It took me a while – and a father-in-law – to find the piece of classical music I heard stalking through this record. It’s Grieg’s “Peer Gynt, Op. 46: I. Morning Mood” – listen to “Track C-Group Dancers” (2m 37s) for a runaway cassette tape meltdown rendition of Grieg’s famous motif. Anyway. I like jazz. I like difficult genius. And smack bang in the middle of that – and just about everything else – is Mingus. And what a Mingus this is. A nebula of sound; textures, moods erupting and enveloping, ebbing, flowing, stopping just as sharply as they started. Mingus drops better ideas than most have ever had (certainly I’ve ever had) within about 14-seconds of forming them. It’s heady – both in the sense it’s celebratory (the playing is utterly immense), and in the sense it’s cerebral (to the composer, chapeau). Anyway. I remember a painting of a fox from my childhood. In it, the fox is standing over a pile of rescued items – crisp packets, cigarette butts, cans of Coke sort of thing. And every time I’d look at the painting I’d notice a new detail, not because there were necessarily that many to notice … but because the image itself had a way of hiding things from you (or revealing things, depending on your perspective). It might have been Grieg this time, but I’ll bet it’ll be something else next.

I know, I know that jazz is the foundation of all rock music and the bedrock of human culture and all that other crap that old white guys on NPR say. But, damn, it's also the wellspring of basically I hate in rock: outwardly flashy showmanship for the sake of showmanship, structure that's all over the place, "music for musicians," and all the other chin-scratching concerns of ponderous quasi-intellectual music praise.

Such a strange album. It's all over the place and just when you think you know what's happening, here comes some flamenco guitar. I'm aware that Mingus was a genius and that this is a great work of art. It's just not for me.

Maybe I just don't understand jazz and maybe that makes me uncool but I did not enjoy or get this. So noisy and lacking a cohesive path. 3/10 (1.5/5)

Good jazz jams

nigger

Hmmm… Jazz…! Not for me, there were some element that I enjoyed, but they were for about 6 seconds before the song changed again! Creative but no structure imo!

man, sometimes you listen to an album and you are just blown away. this is one of them. i'm not a huge jazz guy but i have a light appreciation for the genre at large. this is unlike most jazz i've ever heard. obviously it's got a bit of a big band feel but it is off the rails and fun. it is chaotic, and yet, extremely organized in its chaos. if you're looking at the "machine" from afar, it may seem chaotic, but if you take a closer look, you can see all the pieces working together and executing perfectly. this thing never gets boring. it ebbs and flows in such a fascinating way. slow, fast, soft, loud. everything just works so fell. simply a well-crafted, incredibly interesting and fascinating piece. music is art, but this, to me, is art as music.

Charles Mingus was already probably my favorite jazz musician. Ah Hum is so good and is one of my favorite albums ever. So now I get to listen to his most acclaimed work! I'm gonna try and write this in real time too! Track A sets this off on a super high note. Those Horns are insane! And the climax at the end is fantastic. I cried to Track B. It's so good Oh my god. The Horns once again are out of this world, but the piano here is utterly perfect. The Speed-ups are crazy and the slowdowns are even better. Track C has a flute!?! And a guitar!?? Holy cow this is so good. Man I don't even know what to say, this is just perfect. Now the Medley. the guitar is back and better then ever. I genuinely am having trouble describing this. It's changing every second it's insane. It just keeps going it's like a forest of sound it's unbelievable. It just goes where ever it pleases and pulls you along for the ride. It's beautiful. Well, that is easily my new favorite jazz album and one of my new all time favorite albums ever. Genuinely Perfect, I have no complaints. 10/10

Loved it! Was nice to have on and helped keep me focused with work actually. Bit chaotic at times but other times hypnotising and rhythmic.very Jazzy 4/5

4.5⭐️/5 [05.28.2025] 01.08.2026

A bit too chaotic for me. I like a lot of jazz but tend more towards the melodic.

This album is going to take a couple listens for me. There are parts I like and parts I don’t understand. I need to learn to listen differently for this one.

I am in the majority (a supposed majority, that is) of people that would claim they do not fully 'understand' Jazz. I'm still very much inclined to feel this way, but what I can say is that Mingus does his best on each track to create ideas that welcome all with some pretty raucous, jovial and open arms. An absolute delight to give this one a listen, and really I salute the power––previously unbeknownst to me––of musical expression in Jazz. Sure, there are some weird moments, but they are all designed to bring me as the listener SOMEWHERE. "Touch my beloved's thought while her world's affluence crumbles at my feet". Spicy. Sad. Intriguing. 9/10

Not really into Jazz. This album had some interesting musicality.

I forget about Charles Mingus sometimes and I shouldn’t.

Favoriten Medley Mode d Trio and group dancers

Inte så svängig men istället lite gapig jazz. Tvåa

Energetic, dark, smokey, noir, defiant. Just some of the words that come to mind when you listen to this amazing album. One of the best jazz recordings of all time.

Interesting record that tells a story through music. Not one I'd return to often but a cool experience.

Fantastic record. Organised Chaos.

These jazz albums never miss

One of the craziest and tightest Jazz albums ever, if you don't like this album I just don't know what you are doing

I just don't get jazz.

groovy but goofy

I really enjoyed this album that I had to listen twice. The first time, it made me sleep like a baby

Laaaangweilig

Just, wow. One of my favorite jazz albums.

First bit was physically painful. Ok I didn't hate this at all but just not something I would listen to on a walk.

I think this is an album I would be into if I “got” music more, but at this stage it’s honestly just not something I really enjoyed. Some cool parts, but overall a lot of dissonance and noise and I just had trouble getting into it.

Listened before?: No, never Fantastic.

I just don’t know how to judge jazz. I liked it.

Lovely.

It drew me in immediately with the dissonant horns. A difficult first listen. I’m certain that repeated plays will be rewarding. Bullshit warning: It’s busy and cacophonous. Cinematic. Evocative of the dirt and grease and sweat and beauty of hot city at night.

Not my thingus

Mostly good sometimes great, often too far out there for me.

I get what Mingus was going for with this album, and some parts really land. I’m a big fan of how heavy and ripping some of the low end instruments are. I just don’t think the pieces all connecting and flowing together does the album any favors. I think the best jazz charts have clear melodies and defined endings.

fav: Track a-solo dancer least fav: Track c-group dancers 10/10

This album has really put me onto Mingus. Over the last two years or so I’ve been steeping myself into jazz music and this album goes straight into one of my favorites.

- een jazz-album met maar amper 4 nummers, zonder zang. zeker niet slecht, maar niet op een dagelijkse basis. het is redelijk chaotische en energieke jazz. er gebeurd veel. het voelt als een jaren 50 zwart-wit film, waarbij iemand doorheen het volledige album langs het water loopt, op een voetpad verlicht met oude lantaarnpalen waar om de zoveel tijd die persoon die paal vastpakt om errond te draaien. - het laatste nummer is ook wel strange met z'n 18 minuten en 40 seconden, er zit een klassieke gitaar in.

I'm always happy to hear some jazz, despite it not being my favourite genre. Finding something I wouldn't normally listen to is pretty much always a pleasure. Mingus is an artist I'm briefly familiar, having listen to some of his music before. I've long been aware of this album as it is discussed as one of the best of its genre. Hoping it isn't as innaccessible as a lot of jazz tends to be. Track A - Solo Dancer Feels very visual, like it's trying to show me something. I really appreciate how there's always something happening. It never takes you in the direction you might expect. Really love when several different melodies move parallel against each other. There's a bit of carthartic moment with that crazy, chaotic section at the end. Feels like a perfect release of tension. Great. 4.5/5 Track B - Duete Solo Dancers Starts of sort of depressing and moody. Love the buildup and the rapidly increasing tempo. I'm reallt impressed with the percussion on this track. A very technical and presisce track that sounds incredibly difficult to perform. Great. 4.5/5 Track C - Group Dancers Oh that's absolutely magnificent. The amount of emotion that's being expressed is really impressive. That flute is almost magical and the spanish guitar is also just wonderful and unexpected. Dynamic and engaging, never taking the easy path, but never choosing the wrong one either. Okay... The final few minutes were just jawdroppingly awesome. That kicked so much ass. Fantastic. 5/5 Medley: Mode D-Trio and Group Dancers (etc...) This is absolute insanity. I have no idea what is going on, but I'm really digging it. There are so many layers to unpack here. Just the fact that someone has managed to assemble, perform and record this to such perfection is baffling. This is gonna take a while to process, but oh my if those 18 minutes didn't just fly by. Fantastic. 5/5 That was quite the experience. On a first listen it is impossible to catch every detail and every instance of nuance and subtely, though despite the admitably surface level listen I can tell that this is really special. The arrangements and their flawless execution of them speaks for itself. It's so tight, so technical and so experimental that it's at times difficult to picture someone actually playing it. It never goes where you expect it to go, taking you through a sonic journey where everything just makes sense. Stunning, magical, flawless. Some really inspiring stuff, that makes me want to dive deeper into Charles Mingus' discography. 5/5

Probably the jazz album I've enjoyed the most. Its messy, uncomfortable at times, but always interesting with extremely varied instrumentation that surprised me, like the flute and the spanish guitar.

I’ve often felt like jazz in general is a collection of talented musicians who want to flex their talents at how quickly they can play notes, over play a riff, or put together a collection of notes and time signatures that don’t make a good melody, but are good for the fact that they don’t make a good melody. This album hasn’t swayed me from that position one bit. It’s all a collection of musicians flexing what they can do in an ensemble setting. A cornucopia of noise. Hot garbage.

Completely wild. It broke into every direction at once; Spanish guitars, shouting horns, swirling chaos. It doesn’t stay in one place for long, but it leaves a hell of an impression.

Magnificent, incredible, indestructible. This album has some of the best musical moments I've ever heard, being the perfect balance of suave and sleazy jazz that makes me want to get up and dance while also making me want to bawl my eyes out all within seconds of each other, and it does it to such a seamless degree on top of it all. Everything fits, every player is in top form, every note means something, and this album is incredible. The hints of Spanish guitar, among other genres, are just cherries on top.

Wonderful - I was concerned about the 18 min song dragging then loved it all

Complete

I wish I could use the word "minging" again, I learned it not long ago and really like it. But alas, this album is fine. Like a movie score or something. Not my taste for sure

Nice

Two of the things I most like about Jazz are 1. The tension that is built and the resolutions and 2. The unpredictability. This has a lot of that and maybe too much tension. That said, this is more of an art piece than something to throw on for the enjoyment of music. It would be a great score for a sort of unhinged noir movie. Maybe the detective is high on heroin 90% of the movie. Happy to finally do a full Mingus listen, hope we get more of his stuff. Cool as hell. Quite weird. Reminds me a bit of Zappa. Tough call but rounding up to 4.

I usually don’t ‘get’ jazz or really understand what the musicians are trying to express. It’s too cerebral for me, too mathematical and abstract. But this album filled me with a kind of dread that I sort of enjoyed, I think? It was definitely more work to enjoy than my typical taste - had to tell myself to ‘hang in there’ through more than a few chaotic spasms of trombone, but it was worth it, overall, I think. I guess I can’t just spend the rest of my life playing air guitar to AC/DC, can I?

Exceptional instrumentation. Sometimes things are not cohesive (even within each individual song), but that isnt always a bad thing. The 6 movements are fairly distinct. Seeing a ballet version of this wouldve been reallllly cool. Hard to pull this record off the shelf, but its really great background jazz and is stylistically unique/hip

Man this is not my preferred kind of jazz. I’m sure there’s a lot going on here that’s difficult and complex and interesting but to my ears, this sounds like a lot of noise. When I listen to this I feel like the Grinch hating the Whos of Whoville for just making noise noise noise noise. Not for me Audio visual aid: https://youtu.be/UsMlsDgMXJM?si=nlOhFs1cDrpkn69z

Definitely one of the more interesting albums so far. I had known Mingus by name, but not sure I had ever really listened. I don't think I'm a huge fan of avante-garde jazz, but what I really appreciate about this album is that alot of it sounds like it was super composed/orchestrated - like a jazz symphony. The wiki says it was written as a ballet, which make sense. It's absolutely chaotic and disorienting, and pretty uncomfortable for most of it, but still has enough footing in reality to be listenable (even enjoyable). Especially love the unexpected instrumentation, like the flamenco guitar and the classical piano bit in Mode D. I don't know if and when I'll come back to this, but seems like an album and artist that would reward some relistens.

3/5

Chaotic and not always easy to listen to. Probably the point, but needs a very specialized and committed audience for appreciation I'd say.

I've done a decent bit of jazz exploration from some of the greats, such as Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Ornette Coleman, Herbie Hancock, Chick Corea, etc., but I actually have yet to really spend any time with Charles Mingus. This album is a joy to listen to, there is a lot going on and it's relatively unpredictable which direction the songs will go. I do appreciate that each piece flows into the next, which gives it even more of a cohesive listening experience. I don't think I've listened to anything that touches on avant garde jazz with the size of this horn section, so it's really interesting to hear some more experimental jazz with a big band type sound. It's a great sounding album with a nice wide sound stage. Will certainly revisit along with additional exploration, but if we're being honest that was always the plan!

This is #day281 of my #1001albumsyoumusthearbeforeyoudie challenge, and… as much as I have pretty generic knowledge of jazz and mostly just go by what I like or don't, but with this challenge, I'm starting to get a better sense of the styles I relate to. Like today's pick: sheer avant-garde, wild, free kind of shit. Yes, please. This is a strong 3 out of 5. Looking forward to #day282.

Very calming, pretty, and perfect for a rainy day. I'm not a huge fan of instrumentals and I would have preferred a longer album with shorter songs. Definitely going to listen to this while I study.

More chaotic than I like my jazz

More intriguing jazz which will require more listening.

Wow

Love this album. I heard it very early in my formative Jazz appreciation years. The sounds, the experimental nature of it, the melodies. I love it. Such an important album for me in my Jazz fanhood.

1963. Jazz. Big Band. 9/10

Not for me. Too crazy jazzy

This is such a rowdy, sassy jazz record. Mingus is a really fun step once you've done Coltrane and Miles

staple jazz record, my favourite jazz record, absolutely amazing, love how it’s all based around one melody

There were movements that grabs my attention but as a whole it isn't interesting enough to give it a full listen. Influential, but not for me.

felt like it wanted to tell a story, like a movie soundtrack, unfortunately that made it kind of feel like there was a piece missing to me.

Whoa I love jazz. This was like an anxiety attack as an album in like a relatable way.

9/10 Soulful Dissonance. Black Saint & The Sinner Lady provides an incredible in between of infectious and sticky movement pieces with a chaotic and dramatic flare. It’s almost like watching an entire narrative unfold despite the record only really being a “ballet”. Some of the best Jazz performances I’ve vert heard are on here, and there’s surprises and suspense at every corner that will definitely make this something I will return to often. For a the longest time I always thought Charlie was playing the world’s smallest trumpet on the cover

Just not for me

Dit loev ik wel hoor maatje. Het scheelt wel dat het niet zo'n lang album is, want een 2x LP van dit had ik niet kunnen hebben.

Not my cup of tea

Everyone solo for half an hour!

Never understood the dissonant jazz. Fun sound at times.

a 18 minute song is no joke… 2,5/5

Real quality but sometimes a bit unfocused for the benefit of experimentation. Would like to listen to it more.

Made me feel like I was in a movie. Almost changed my personality as I was walking through the city. I liked it.

Interesting Fusions and chaotic elements. But not really my cup of jazz. Still liked the listening experience. Bit less a project i will return to. (2.5/5.0)

Track 3 wow!!!! Loved

Uh. I think it’s too much to have an opinion on this album after one listen. It’s a lot. I’ve dabbled with Charles Mingus before. I live the tune “goodbye pork pie hat” and so I got “Mingus Ah Um” and maybe a couple of others. But it’s not easy listening. It’s intense with a lot going on and a sort of dissonance that makes me feel queasy. I know that this is not the music’s fault. Nor is it mine. It’s just that this is music as ART and needs approaching with a bit more background reading and focus than a pop or rock record. This is like classical music. This is my way of saying, essentially, that I don’t really get it, but I’ll come back to it!

Need to spend more time with…

This is some straight up jazz haha it was pretty good just feels kinda out there haha I'm not the biggest jazz fan but it is starting to grow on me the more I hear it!

The first 4 songs were mediocre.

Mooie sound. Niet direct iets dat ik zou opzetten uit mezelf. Eerder iets dat op de achtergrond zou spelen tijdens een aperitief ofzo. 2.8

een voltreffende dierentuin

This album is a rollercoaster into the mind of a genius jazz man but it is not for the week of heart. Not only does it feature some great bass work (Mingus was a bassist after all), but all the musicians involved give performances that leave you wondering what’s next. Track-B is the best for me, as you can envision a hallucination-like pasa doble style Argentinian dance. For a jazz aficionado this could be the greatest album ever. For us low-level appreciators, I dug this but it’s not date night music and I am pretty sure if I played this at work someone would have a psychotic break. But wow!

Random thoughts: * I know the name Charles Mingus but never listened to him before. Thank you 1001 for the education. * What kind of jazz do you call this. Dark, story, growling jazz? * I liked track C the most on this album. Very noir and and really sets the tone for a film. * Happy to be exposed to something new and different. Not sure I'll return here. But a good listen nonetheless.

Head-spinning experimental jazz with weird horn fills and Spanish guitar. Not a huge jazz fan but really liked this.

Heavy metal!

I’m not really sure why, but I found this jazz album more enjoyable than a lot of others that I’ve heard. I guess it isn’t that wacky kind of jazz, and is more sedate and beatnik. It does still have that usual trope of having very few songs compared to the run time, but I didn’t really find myself getting bored while listening. I’m still unlikely to go out of my way to listen again, but that doesn’t reduce my surprise at enjoying this. It’s good, and it just sorta sounds cool.

How do you even write music like this, it’s like creating hurricane with sound

I wouldn't want to see a ballet set to this, but that's more an issue with ballet than jazz

Nice background music.

final rating 7/10 good but not my thing y'know

Best jazz record so far which is a low bar but this is the first one I've enjoyed.

Good music for a trip to mars. Haha I don't even know how to think about this alongside the other albums we've ranked. Jazz is so wild. Music Experience has certainly helped me appreciate Jazz more but I think in some cases it is still not for me. This is all fine but all way too aggressive and cloying to want to listen to in my daily life. I could only ever see it working to create tension in an indie film, otherwise I have no use for it. Seems insane to do a track ranking. Maybe it would grow on me over time, but today it feels like a 2 (and I did listen to the whole thing, yes)

Wow great stuff!!!

I think I'm beginning to like Jazz. I never thought that would happen, but between Charles Mingus, Miles Davis, Count Basie and more on this list so far, I'm finding a lot more to enjoy about jazz than dislike.

decently compelling jazz album

I thought this would be good writing music, being jazz and all, but it was way too chaotic. The whole making the trumpet talk thing towards the end of Track B was particularly jarring. Perhaps I didn't experience this one in the right state of mind, but I found it grating.

Really cool album. It consist of 4 tracks, but they’re all lengthy and follow a central theme, so it really feels like one long continuous song.

Particularly liked track C, very adventurous. All in all, not my cup of tea since I'm not that into jazz

Okay, I vibed with this a *lot* more than a lot of the jazz on here, it helps that it was quite such a single piece with implicit movement

Well that was a bit of a change after listening to Muse. Considering what I usually think of jazz, I didn’t mind this. Maybe because I was busy and it was just background. But it will never be my music of choice.

Not my favourite jazz on this list by a long shot, this just came and went without any lasting impression. Not much of a review I know, but there's nowt much else I can say on the matter.

cool. (⌐■_■)

The best high school teacher I had was an old guy who would give us an English assignment to work on in class, then sprint outside and kinda hide in the trees and smoke 2-3 smokes in a row real fast. We would watch him from the window. He also talked a lot about Charles Mingus.

I am not a jazz guy, but I enjoyed the impressive playing and composition.

Just doesn't do it for me...

Bit too avant-garde for my tastes, but I hear the talent. Prefer “Mingus Ah Um”

Track A - Solo Dancer Track C - Group Dancers Mode D/E/F

Not sure what to make of this one. Quite a cacophony at some parts. As for jazz it is pretty interesting and definetly something I want to spend more time digging in and listening. This one needs some time to appreciate.

Don’t really care for jazz, but some of that was quite nice

Musicianship is excellent and production is excellent. I get why this is on the list because the vibe is very niche and very good in this niche but I will likely never listen again because virtuoso instrumentals for the sake of it gets boring fast. My wife likes it- from the one song she heard.

Enjoyable. Sort of low rating because I would never really know the difference between good and great jazz music.

Mint

It's alright.

Good vibes for studying.

I am not a Jazz fan and this album didn't change that any. 2 stars or D.

It was ok. Sometimes a bit too noisy. Not my favourite kind of jazz, but might be nice sometimes.

Well, that was a lot. The whole album moves like a parade falling down a staircase; graceful chaos, and horns clashing like they’re mad at each other. It’s dramatic, intense, and clearly smart as hell, but holy smokes, can someone let the piano breathe? It felt like every instrument was fighting for the last word in an argument. That said, I get why it's on the list. It’s a jazz opera on too much coffee. Glad it was short! Like me! Spins: 2 Playlist Additions: - Track A - Track C

Decent

I liked the jazz album a lot. The mixing was a bit weird, but definitely more enjoyable than elton john.

I appreciate the 1001 Album Generator including non-mainstream albums like The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady by Charles Mingus.

Feels like you've gotta really invest the time into listening to this with intent. It's "experimental", but some how it feels foundational.

The 60s was not a good decade for jazz or ballet and this is a 60s jazz ballet.

Not my style

Sounded interesting the first time i heard, but didn’t fully get it per se. Hearing it again and again, the music is addicting. It kind of has the slow burn vibe that i get from composers like Rahman. pick: Group Dancers

I think this project is slowly turning me into a jazz fan. I'd never really given it a chance much before but it's awesome being exposed to such excellent examples of it. And this album especially is one of the best pieces of jazz I've heard, an opinion I'd reached about midway through the third movement. Such beautiful work.

Brain scrambling in the best way possible

i liked this one! it’s fun, upbeat, and pretty easy to listen to. my fav songs were track b and track c.

This was nice, but not really anything that excited me. It's less weird than some of the other jazz that's come up on this list. I could imagine this as a film score. Good background music, but didn't really make me feel anything

Duet Solo Dancers is one of my favorite jazz tracks

First three tracks were interesting and energetic, fourth track was cool with the flamenco guitar. Would definitely like to listen to this album again, 4/5.

What an odd combination.

Good for what it is, and I'm sure a very important entry in its genre. Not my cup of tea, but not a bad listen.

Amazing album full of surprising turns. A lovely, entertaining listen.

Honestly, one of the better jazz albums on this list so far

This is so badass before badass was a thing! Complex and beautiful. I'm no lover of Jazz, but this simply grabs your neck and slaps you to attention. If you give this a 1, you shouldn't be here. Go spend your time on MyFace and TicTac, and fuck right off!

Classic jazz album

God I just wish I enjoyed listening to Jazz. It's probably a very excellent example of a style of Jazz that I simply don't derive any pleasure from listening to.

Not my cup of tea.

Pretty great. I especially liked the second track.

Sehr jazzig 😅

bweeep

Smokey streets and flashing neon lights. Nice. 4

I don’t get it, and that’s okay.

“Stop! Look! And Sing Songs of Revolutions!" This was so good. Dark, uncomfortable at times. Brilliant

Bello, magari non il mio genere, però, però...

A real musical adventure, I love it, but only for a careful Iisten. Not background music. Really well made - just one star off because it fills me with awe but not with emotion.

The angry man of jazz has conducted his masterpiece. As though he was orchestrating a ballet for the stage (he was though, as was the case, he wasn't successful), Charles Mingus uses the farthest parts of his brain to compose some of the most arresting work of his career, with a cracking band willingly pushing themselves to make the songs come to life. If one were to compile a list of jazz records to ease on into the genre, it would be a mistake to not consider The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady.

Especially for the early 60’s, this is such a mindblowing piece of music. Cacophony and catharsis, beauty and brutality. Mingus takes his already spectacular ensemble composition chops and levels them up again for this release. This is undoubtedly jazz at the end of the day (influenced by other styles, classical included), but I can see this having an impact on a number of different notable names. Not only the free jazz and fusion artists to come but noise-rock and post-rock which focus on massive instrumental climaxes. 10/10. The Black Saint is a sophisticated, unstable masterpiece.

Tracks B and C were pretty good. A and D felt busy, all the instruments didn’t flow at times. It was an ok jazz album but no my favorite.

Great

Fun! He had great jazz

EVIL 😈 Album, the theme of dancers in which the numbers increase throughout the songs was cool and the acoustic guitar with the flamenco parts was really unexpected in the last two songs but was really great, also again the evil mixed with the not so evil parts was a cool dynamic which definitely fits the name of the album. Very awesome 8/10

Jazz is nice but it needs more plays before I make up my mind.

I really like this album's ambition to make a jazz concept album. The 4 tracks are well separated, but combine so many elements from each other that it does feel like one cohesive piece - something that is rare for Jazz albums of its time. 8/10

Smoother Jazz zum Hören bei der Arbeit. Mir fehlte aber ein wenig das Alleinstellungsmerkmal, um diesem Album 4 oder gar 5 Sterne zu geben.

Ich mag Jazz, aber das war mir viel zu stressig.

Mingus is a genius. Just not my kind of genius. Feel bad about this rating

Wind me up, Chuck

Absolute garbage. I hate jazz on principle for the most part but this is even worse than the norm. Sounds like somebody who just ate a half dozen bean burritos from Taco Bell farting into a microphone.

84/100.

what's this about? hard to say. it's a jazz ballet, that's cool. it's a great sound and mingus was undeniably a master. i like it but it's not his greatest work. in 1972, charles mingus would publish his only written work--an illustrated pamphlet that would go down in history as rivalling the great american writers of his time. this revelation, entitled The Charles Mingus CAT-alog for Toilet Training Your Cat, is a step-by-step guide on how to get your feline companion to use the toilet within just a few weeks, written in honor of mingus's own fur baby, Nightlife, with whom he successfully employed this very method. you start with a simple cardboard box filled with shredded newspaper--do NOT use kitty litter. get rid of your kitty litter, you don't need it anymore. where's your box now? it doesn't matter, anywhere is fine. EXCEPT the bathroom. if it's already in the bathroom, sister, you've given yourself extra work. take it out of the bathroom, gradually so as not to disturb your cat's habits, and work it to somewhere else in the house. this is where things get tricky. over the next couple weeks, however long it takes, move the box just a few feet per day toward the bathroom. if your cat starts shitting on the floor where the box was, you've moved it too far and lost a day. each time you move it, cut down the sides of the box by just a couple inches. eventually, you will reach the porcelain throne. at this point, stick the box on top of the CLOSED toilet seat with the sides shaved down to just about an inch--almost flat, but with enough height to avoid spillovers and secure it to the toilet with string, tape, or however you prefer. you're in the home stretch. in no time at all now your little guy or gal will be working the pot with the best of them. after a couple days of on-the-seat shitting, take the box, cut down the rest of the sides so it's flat, and put it over the open seat itself. keep using your shredded sunday times, but cut a little hole over the center so that the cat can see it. according to mingus, your cat is gonna go nuts for the hole. aim for it. expand it. he knows, somewhere deep down in the primal shared consciousness of all felines, that this is what he was meant to do. and that's pretty much it--you've hit gold. to quote the pamphlet, "at this point you will realize you have won." your cat is one step closer to achieving humanity, and your daily chores just got a little easier. flushing? oh, yeah, that should happen accidentally. if the cat hits the handle and sees that the toilet will bury the waste then he'll keep flushing or something. trust the process. anyway, i don't know or care enough about jazz to give this a 5 or a 3, but it was a really enjoyable listen and it's obviously impressive. 4/5 my cats are become as gods now

just not my favorite from mingus and i know there are way better jazz albums coming

Man, that is some jazz music. Compositional wonder, amazing playing, incredible piece of art.

Great jazz. Super well composed and the musicianship is phenomenal. It really takes you on a journey. I don’t really have much else to say but I’m glad I found time in my schedule to pencil Mr. Mingus in.

This was great to listen to. Mingus brings you along through and entire jazzy story. I enjoyed this record so much, but I agree with corbobb that there’s better Mingus out there (Mingus Ah Um imo) still feeling a 5/5 on this, I’ll definitely be listening to this again. Mingus forever!

I did this album a disservice by listening to it on spotify, in my gaming chair, while playing Marvel Rivals, which is what I've been doing for the majority of these albums. This album should be listened to in a grand music hall, played by a jazz orchestra of masters, accompanied by a wonderful ballet. I feel like listening to it how I did meant I only got half the experience. Despite that, this album is a masterpiece, and it should say something that despite feeling like I did the album injustice in how I listened to it its still a clear 5 out of 5.

An amazing album of pure jazz enthusiasts who appreciate his artistry. One of the best, with Miles and T. Monk. Enjoy!

frekar flókið. margar stefnur líta við. aðra? 3,5.

Made me cum

Musically interesting, but not too catchy or “important”

I really enjoyed this one, but I’ll admit it might be a lot to take in if you’re not sure what you’re getting into. It’s avant-garde jazz at its best, with a hint of Spanish flair and layers that pull from all sorts of influences. It’s almost like each layer has a mind of its own, yet somehow it all comes together perfectly.

qué increible el buen jazz

Classic of unconventional jazz.

Sorry this one just didn’t capture me. The John Coltrane jazz album was so good and I had high hopes for this jazz album but there was nothing that stood out to me and a lot of it sounded like cat screeching. Again sorry. But it just wasn’t for me.

Thank fuck that's over.

ok 7/10

Great jazz record. I definitely want to revisit it when I'm more in the mood for jazz. It did kind of all run together, and demanded more focus than I was willing to give.

Repetitive musical motifs adapt and take on new meanings as the improvisation and rhythms around them constantly evolve and alter the musical context, like shifting river of mercury weaving it's way down a gentle incline. It's intriguing stuff and the performances are sublime. It's also - to this listener - dull as dishwater. More interesting than the only Miles Davis entry I have encountered thus far, but every bit as inaccessible to my tastes in music, I'm afraid.

Not what I was expecting at all, but VERY good jazz. Pleasing to the ear and the heart.

Sorry, I just fucking hate jazz. it breaks my brain, makes me feel anxious, I can't focus or think straight with it on.

A great representation of jazz. This is what jazz is now even tho it is a great album it isn’t perfect. Just a bit boring for 40minutes of jazz instrumental but still good. Don’t have much to say tbh just solid all around😂 7.6/10 3.8/5 Second listen in almost 5 months later and I’ve learnt to appreciate jazz so much more. Personally I wouldn’t listen to this in my free time but how technical and there being so many layers to it is definitely a driving factor if we are being real. Sometimes I do think some instruments are not needed and ruin the mood but cmon that doesn’t rly change my opinion on this project. I remember seeing fantano giving it a 10 which is far from the truth and I’m gonna give this a 8.6/10 4.3/5

Classic pretentious album.

erm so this is some exprimental thing? and this is supposed to be a ballet score? well it sounds great! maybe i should thank my ballet dancing experience from kindergarten to 3rd grade for being able to understand this shite of an album because i can somehow imagine how this should function as a dance score, and it is not as bad as it sounds after i envisions the dancing that should accompany the album. 4/5

I really don't get the insane hatred for jazz music but then again, I'm sure some people feel the same way about my deep, firey resentment for country music or pop punk. This was a fine album, I like a bit of jazz on an evening on the weekend with some nice wine and a comfy sofa. And this album definitely fits the mould for that. That being said, I'm not an expert in jazz, I really just put it on for background music when I want something smooth and inoffensive to play whilst I chill, and that's really all I know jazz for. Background music. But this is quite nice background music by any accord, so I'll give it a 3.