The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady by Charles Mingus

The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady

Charles Mingus

3.33
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It was a little chaotic for my taste but I can see how talented the artist is through the chaos.

weeell iss okaay 2 mAYBE 3

As pleasant as it was unpleasant. Nothing in it for me.

meh, no comments, not for me 2.5/5

Big, brash and overall not the sort of jazz I love

This album was great. However, I was not the biggest fan of the discordance like I usually am. It was a slightly worse jimmy smith.

The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady is an album that had a lot going for it but was held back by one simple thing. This album certainly did have a lot of variety for just having 4 songs. There was the typical jazz music, a point where it had that odd stringed instrument (i don't know if its a guitar or not) and even some very Clair De Lune sounding piano parts. I do like a lot of those aspects but the album just needed to do one thing to be great which it did not do, That is GET IT'S CRAP TOGETHER. This album felt like it had barely any composition as there was just sounds everywhere and it could get annoying. It is a shame since this album could have been a 4 star album, it just needed to fix this issue. Best Song: Track C-Group Dancers Worst Song: Track A-Solo Dancer

According to Wikipedia, "the album features liner notes written by Mingus and his then-psychotherapist". Also: "Outside of music, Mingus published a mail-order how-to guide in 1954 called The Charles Mingus CAT-alog for Toilet Training Your Cat. The guide explained in detail how to get a cat to use a human toilet". Guess this guy's mind was racing, and that comes across on this album, which is full of ideas, it's highly orchestrated, yet sometimes breaking into more free-form such as 'Track C'. I think it floats around 3/4, but I'm not sure I got enough to tip it. I enjoyed it and would certainly like to come back to it one day.

It's fine.

I really wanted to like this more, but it didn't really enthrall me as much as some other jazz albums I've listened to. Maybe a little too avant garde for me?

I don’t really know what to say about this album. The talent level is absolutely there. Some of the songs have very cool and interesting instrumentation. You can feel what it is that Mingus is going for with the different moods. That all being said, I’ll never listen to it again and I only really enjoyed certain parts.

I'm hit and miss with jazz but the album opener is accessible enough that I could get into it. In "Track B" I was struck by the quality of the recording of the awesome brassy tones, but it did listen more like a soundtrack than a stand-alone piece. I think that sums up the album. Well recorded, cool jazz sounds that sound more like a soundtrack than a finished article. Generally faded into the background as I find with all jazz. Shout-out to the flamenco segment on the B-side though.

I kept wondering when they were going to stop warming up and start playing

This had just enough structure to pull me back in every time it went off the rails into chaos. I probably wouldn't seek this out to listen to again, but I can see why it's on the list.

It’s jazz

This stressed me out a bit, but was otherwise a fun listen.

I like the Angry jazz man but this was hard to break into. I am glad to have myself pushed rather than another run of the mill punk album.

imagine having mingus as your last name

Day551 - awesome jazz. needs less tuba

This was pleasant to listen to thank you mr Mingus

Not the most compelling jazz I’ve ever listened to, but alright.

This whole album sounds like cartoon detective cats are hot on my trail and I'm laying low in a jazz club on a night where there's a wild interpretive dance act on stage.

Another Jazz album which I am sure is fantastic if you are a jazz and blues fan, but I cant really discern it from the plethora of others. Good background music. 3 stars

Bit short to fully appreciate

Nice relaxing music thx

Don't know the classic jazz well enough to criticize it. Quite enjoyed this one, but probably wont feel the urge to listen to it again, at least not in the near future.

This isn’t a bad album by any means. But this kind of jazz hits me hardest when it’s live. Right now, I’m listening to it while working, so it’s only three stars for me.

It's jazz. Most of it the good kind with notes in sensible order, some of it is just running fingers on one instruments or another. I did listen to it all the way through, heard some of that... old timey theater music, what ever it's called. This is not something I'd put on myself, but it's not offensive and I don't mind listening to it.

Kind of experimental but in a good way. I will definitely listen to it again.

Raro, no me distustó, algunos temas me daban vibes de investigación privada yankee de los '30

Me gusta el jazz falopa pero creo que este era demasiado. Muy individuales los instrumentos

Enregistré en 1963 par le volcanique Charles Mingus, "The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady", est un ballet sans danseurs, une psychanalyse sans divan, un cri du coeur et de l'âme orchestré avec une précision de maître. Charles Mingus a conçu "The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady", non pas comme une collection de morceaux, mais comme une suite continue, une seule et même pièce en six mouvements fluides et interconnectés. Il fusionne la ferveur du gospel, la sensualité du blues, la sophistication de la musique de chambre classique et, de manière saisissante, les couleurs ardentes du flamenco, incarnées par la guitare de Jay Berliner. Ce dernier n'est pas un simple soliste, il est le contrepoint, l'âme espagnole qui dialogue avec la fureur cuivrée du big band. La structure de l'œuvre est un tour de force. Les thèmes apparaissent, se transforment, disparaissent pour mieux resurgir sous une autre forme. Les sections de cuivres dialoguent avec une puissance dramatique, les saxophones (portés par un Charlie Mariano impérial) pleurent et hurlent, tandis que la section rythmique, menée par la contrebasse tellurique de Charles Mingus et la batterie inventive de Dannie Richmond, est le moteur implacable de cette machine musicale complexe. L'album est une succession de climats, passant sans prévenir de la tendresse la plus désarmante à des explosions de colère chaotiques, d'une sensualité moite à une angoisse quasi palpable. C'est une musique incroyablement visuelle, qui évoque la passion, le conflit, la danse, la prière et la lutte intérieure. Les célèbres notes de pochette, rédigées par le psychologue de Mingus, le Dr. Edmund Pollock, ne font que confirmer cette dimension : nous assistons à une mise à nu, à l'exploration des dualités qui animent le compositeur – le "Saint" et le "Pécheur". En conclusion, "The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady" reste l'un des sommets absolus de la musique du XXe siècle. L'album ne contient pas de "tube" facile, pas de mélodie que l'on fredonne distraitement, c'est une oeuvre dense, touffue, qui ne laisse que peu de répit à l'auditeur. Elle exige une écoute active, une concentration de tous les instants. Par moments, la superposition des couches sonores, la tension permanente et le flot ininterrompu d'idées peuvent devenir étouffants. C'est un voyage exigeant et parfois ardu, mais dont la récompense est immense. Charles Mingus y a gravé son testament artistique, une oeuvre-monde d'une richesse inépuisable qui continue de fasciner, de dérouter et d'émouvoir plus de soixante ans après sa création. Ce n'est pas seulement un disque à écouter, c'est une expérience à vivre. Un 3 sur 5

не моё, но может быть переслушаю

Cant go wrong with jazz. Wasn't a huge fan of those acoustic guitars tho.

Solid jazz album, great playing, not a ton of memorable melodies but probably would need a lot of listens to really start clicking

This was some HEAVY ass jazz. A lot of good stuff going on, but also just a lot going on in general.

Between big band and a little experimental Jazz from the 60-ies.

Good, a Spanish influence not dissimilar though not as extensive as sketches of Spain. A good blend of bebop and experimental elements.

This album feels like one long developing song. It is really solid overall, although the sounds of the trumpet that kind of sound human were a bit unsettling. Track A - Solo Dancer was my favorite.

This album is a lot. Very jazzy... but also kind of abrasive and overwhelming. It's certainly not smooth. It's more of a sprawling epic assault... in a good way. It constantly moves between genres and tempos and moods... building up and crashing back down. Some parts feel like the soundtrack to a Hitchcock film. Some bits feel like they're strait out of film noir. Some passages are purely latin acoustic guitar. And that list of 3 doesn't even scratch the surface of the variety on this album. But somehow it still feels very cohesive? It's a lot to digest in 1 or 2 listens. There is so much going on. I need more time with it. I have a feeling this one will grow on me. The second listen already made more sense than the first. Side note: I can definitely feel the influence of this album on genres outside of jazz. Any sort of rock, punk, post-rock or prog album with weird abrasive sax owes this album a shoutout.

A bit chaotic but good

Interesting but I wouldn't relisten. Jazz but weird, a bit more like a chaotic experimental classical piece - I didn't dislike it like I do most jazz, and I appreciated what they were trying to do, but it just didn't spark for me.

Сложная для восприятия музыка, хотя некоторые эпизоды звучат интересно. 5 из 10.

Very jazz but liked it

I don’t know much about Jazz so I guess this is good? I do know because he is American born I will give an extra star.

Solid for what it is, though not what was needed today.

I sometimes feel like I just don’t understand jazz. This is technically brilliant and I like it, but I don’t love it. And that’s how I generally feel about jazz.

Rating: 6/10 Do not enjoy the blaring horns much, the last song saves this. Filled with many different interesting movements and some very catchy melodies, the final song is great from start to finish. The rest of this is just okay.

Quite enjoyed it despite not being my usual thing

Such a strange album. It's all over the place and just when you think you know what's happening, here comes some flamenco guitar. I'm aware that Mingus was a genius and that this is a great work of art. It's just not for me.

A bit too chaotic for me. I like a lot of jazz but tend more towards the melodic.

This album is going to take a couple listens for me. There are parts I like and parts I don’t understand. I need to learn to listen differently for this one.

Not really into Jazz. This album had some interesting musicality.

Interesting record that tells a story through music. Not one I'd return to often but a cool experience.

groovy but goofy

I think this is an album I would be into if I “got” music more, but at this stage it’s honestly just not something I really enjoyed. Some cool parts, but overall a lot of dissonance and noise and I just had trouble getting into it.

Mostly good sometimes great, often too far out there for me.

I get what Mingus was going for with this album, and some parts really land. I’m a big fan of how heavy and ripping some of the low end instruments are. I just don’t think the pieces all connecting and flowing together does the album any favors. I think the best jazz charts have clear melodies and defined endings.

This is #day281 of my #1001albumsyoumusthearbeforeyoudie challenge, and… as much as I have pretty generic knowledge of jazz and mostly just go by what I like or don't, but with this challenge, I'm starting to get a better sense of the styles I relate to. Like today's pick: sheer avant-garde, wild, free kind of shit. Yes, please. This is a strong 3 out of 5. Looking forward to #day282.

Very calming, pretty, and perfect for a rainy day. I'm not a huge fan of instrumentals and I would have preferred a longer album with shorter songs. Definitely going to listen to this while I study.

More chaotic than I like my jazz

There were movements that grabs my attention but as a whole it isn't interesting enough to give it a full listen. Influential, but not for me.

Not my cup of tea

Never understood the dissonant jazz. Fun sound at times.

Real quality but sometimes a bit unfocused for the benefit of experimentation. Would like to listen to it more.

Made me feel like I was in a movie. Almost changed my personality as I was walking through the city. I liked it.

Need to spend more time with…

This is some straight up jazz haha it was pretty good just feels kinda out there haha I'm not the biggest jazz fan but it is starting to grow on me the more I hear it!

Mooie sound. Niet direct iets dat ik zou opzetten uit mezelf. Eerder iets dat op de achtergrond zou spelen tijdens een aperitief ofzo. 2.8

This album is a rollercoaster into the mind of a genius jazz man but it is not for the week of heart. Not only does it feature some great bass work (Mingus was a bassist after all), but all the musicians involved give performances that leave you wondering what’s next. Track-B is the best for me, as you can envision a hallucination-like pasa doble style Argentinian dance. For a jazz aficionado this could be the greatest album ever. For us low-level appreciators, I dug this but it’s not date night music and I am pretty sure if I played this at work someone would have a psychotic break. But wow!

Random thoughts: * I know the name Charles Mingus but never listened to him before. Thank you 1001 for the education. * What kind of jazz do you call this. Dark, story, growling jazz? * I liked track C the most on this album. Very noir and and really sets the tone for a film. * Happy to be exposed to something new and different. Not sure I'll return here. But a good listen nonetheless.

I wouldn't want to see a ballet set to this, but that's more an issue with ballet than jazz

final rating 7/10 good but not my thing y'know

Best jazz record so far which is a low bar but this is the first one I've enjoyed.

Well that was a bit of a change after listening to Muse. Considering what I usually think of jazz, I didn’t mind this. Maybe because I was busy and it was just background. But it will never be my music of choice.

I am not a jazz guy, but I enjoyed the impressive playing and composition.

Bit too avant-garde for my tastes, but I hear the talent. Prefer “Mingus Ah Um”

Not sure what to make of this one. Quite a cacophony at some parts. As for jazz it is pretty interesting and definetly something I want to spend more time digging in and listening. This one needs some time to appreciate.

Don’t really care for jazz, but some of that was quite nice

Enjoyable. Sort of low rating because I would never really know the difference between good and great jazz music.

Good vibes for studying.

Well, that was a lot. The whole album moves like a parade falling down a staircase; graceful chaos, and horns clashing like they’re mad at each other. It’s dramatic, intense, and clearly smart as hell, but holy smokes, can someone let the piano breathe? It felt like every instrument was fighting for the last word in an argument. That said, I get why it's on the list. It’s a jazz opera on too much coffee. Glad it was short! Like me! Spins: 2 Playlist Additions: - Track A - Track C

Feels like you've gotta really invest the time into listening to this with intent. It's "experimental", but some how it feels foundational.

This was nice, but not really anything that excited me. It's less weird than some of the other jazz that's come up on this list. I could imagine this as a film score. Good background music, but didn't really make me feel anything

What an odd combination.

Good for what it is, and I'm sure a very important entry in its genre. Not my cup of tea, but not a bad listen.

Not my cup of tea.

Sehr jazzig 😅

bweeep

Jazz is nice but it needs more plays before I make up my mind.

Smoother Jazz zum Hören bei der Arbeit. Mir fehlte aber ein wenig das Alleinstellungsmerkmal, um diesem Album 4 oder gar 5 Sterne zu geben.

Mingus is a genius. Just not my kind of genius. Feel bad about this rating

just not my favorite from mingus and i know there are way better jazz albums coming

frekar flókið. margar stefnur líta við. aðra? 3,5.

Musically interesting, but not too catchy or “important”

ok 7/10

I really don't get the insane hatred for jazz music but then again, I'm sure some people feel the same way about my deep, firey resentment for country music or pop punk. This was a fine album, I like a bit of jazz on an evening on the weekend with some nice wine and a comfy sofa. And this album definitely fits the mould for that. That being said, I'm not an expert in jazz, I really just put it on for background music when I want something smooth and inoffensive to play whilst I chill, and that's really all I know jazz for. Background music. But this is quite nice background music by any accord, so I'll give it a 3.

Pleasant jazz

Wasn’t bad. Jazz is new to me. Excited to get more. Probably worth a higher rating then I’m gonna give it.

Wouldn’t say this is bad but nothing resonated with me, could listen to this in background but wouldn’t actively choose it. Still hoping for a jazz album that will make sense to me.

THINKIN: Jazzy horns. PERSONALLY: Still not a Jazz guy but I love his hat. ALT TITLE: The Black Lady and the Sinner Saint

I enjoyed having this on as I was getting ready for work.

Good? Dunno but I didn’t hate it like most jazz

Some interesting stuff going on here and in part quite enjoyable.

Bingus

Groovy

I don't think I've ever heard of Charles Mingus before. Granted, I'm not very well versed when it comes to jazz music, so take that with a grain of salt. I haven't found a jazz album on this list that really resonates with me yet, but I'm hoping that this will be the first one! I didn't enjoy this in the way that I was hoping to, but this was still a fine album. I did enjoy the brass and reed instrument arrangements on this album, and this album felt to me as if those instruments were what drove the overall sound. The double bass playing was really good too, but my favorite part was the flute playing on Track C. That flute arrangement was absolutely fantastic, and I was delighted when it popped back up on the medley on the second side of the album. Other than that, I don't have much to say on this album, but it was a nice listening experience overall.

Lots of jazz. And I love jazz. But this jazz is a little stressful!

Lively.

Very unsettling jazz. It's different from your typical jazz records. But pretty cool.

-ok so this was a very interesting album bc no singing -idt i would relisten to it but it was interesting to listen to once -it had some funky random changes which surprised me sometimes

All that jazz. The morning commute wasn't a great spot to give this album what it probably needed. I'm not a jazz guy so this wasn't my cup of tea.

I don't like jazz. But I like the occasional avant garde music mixed with classical and folk. This is a record to listen concentrated and analyze all the elements that play there.

6/10 Funny one this, lots of contradictions. Old fashioned and avant garde Trumpet that was both silly and cool Really melodic and really difficult I liked it and didn’t like it Best: Track B

Dieses Album ist ein monumentales Beispiel für die kreative Kraft des Jazz. Mit seiner Mischung aus Komplexität, Intensität und Innovation bleibt es ein unverzichtbarer Klassiker, der sowohl für Jazz-Liebhaber als auch für Neueinsteiger eine lohnenswerte Entdeckung ist.

There were definitely a lot of ummm... choices... that were made

I like quite a bit of jazz. This isn't great for me. That's just a stylistic preference. It's a really good album. If you're into that kind of freeform music for the night and then it's perfect.

Buen disco de jazz teniendo en cuenta el año de grabación.

Verry artfull jazz album. If you have time enough to listen carefully, its wonderfull. Maybe somthing for specialists.

Enjoyed this. Reminded me a bit of some of the jazz in the Andy Griffith Show?

Torn on this album. This kind of jazz is not really my taste. All notes playing everything different. But in my mind this works great as a visual trip by just using the name of the album, song titles and music to fill in the blanks. If there was an accompanying film then I would be able to really appreciate it more. Another note is that there are some great rhythms in here that could be sampled.

mingus

not really my type of jazz but still nice

100% jazz

A little jazz is nice in the winter

Solid Jazz album. A bit disjointed at the start, but that’s kind of to be expected from jazz. The later songs made me feel like I was watching an old timey black & white detective movie, where the smoke show blonde walks in on the half drunk private eye pleading him to take her case then he mumbles something about not working for no dames before an inner monologue starts in about how he needs the money to pay off Franky Fingers or some shit. 🕵🏻‍♂️💃🥃

I can't stand Jazz...unfortunately (for me)...it was a bit of a torture to listen the full album...

Good but more jazzy than I like

I’m not a big fan of jazz

Jazz halt

Didn’t love it but certainly appreciated it.

I am surprised that I didn't know him as well as his contemporaries such as Duke Ellington, and Charlie Parker. Great album.

Still don't love jazz, but it was alright.

its good, but it's a little chaotic for me. perhaps with multiple listens it would settle in.

Not my thing but it was good for what it was

Not the biggest jazz fan BUT this was quite nice, especially the last track and knowing that it was composed for a ballet.

Not really my preferred style of jazz but interesting enough.

Always been a fan

Too much jazz for me

I think I've come to realise that jazz albums just aren't going to get above a 4. Sorry. This is good. Like experimental jazz good. But it's not so aligned with my own enjoyment buttons that I can really truly love it.

Aw hall nah prog jazz??

Blind album and artist. Didn't hate it. Want ecstatic about it. It's jazz to me.

The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady is an experimental jazz composition from the 60s. Interesting uses of the instruments here - for example, sometimes the brass sounds like it's trying to imitate speech or vocals. I didn't get a whole lot of mileage out of it, but it's clearly quite good.

dying elephant music

I'm a fan of most Jazz, but I'm not sure about Charles Mingus? The music is intense and unsettled me at times and made my brain feel crazily dizzy and confused that was on the brink of trying my patience. To listen to long tracks, I need to be in a proper state of mind and this free expressive jazz, though incredibly mesmerizing, had me feeling this music is way out of my league and I definitely don't understand it the way I should. Glad I listened and will be back after I educate myself with more jazz basics.

jazz. innocuo.

This is heavy music--there's a lot going on here, and I don't think this is a jazz album to drop in the middle of a broader range of styles and say, "Here, this one is one of the best." It may be, but it's for hardcore jazzheads. I think "Mingus Ah Um" or "Mingus Plays Piano" is better for the general listener to get familiar with Mingus. This would be better suited for "1001 Jazz Albums To Hear Before You Die." Great album? Probably. Over my head? Definitely. 3/5, just because our esteemed editors haven't read the room. Including this album is just pretentious or lazy; not sure which. 3⭐️

Jazz all sounds like one long elevator song to me. But this one was alright background.

I found this fairly compelling, as jazz goes. It's got a good chaotic energy that elevates it above background music and a broad range of sounds I wasn't expecting - sleazy downtown club vibes, vaudeville style flute, even flamenco guitar. Plus it seems there might be some kind of narrative that runs through it...? So, high marks for scope and ambition. For all that it's not something I can see myself revisiting.

not the biggest jazz fan but if i was listening to this and sipping a g+t at a bar, this would be a vibe

The Spanish guitar is very spicy. Wonderful music to work to. The horns are fierce too. Fav Track: Medley: Mode D-Trio and Group Dancers/Mode E-Single Solos and Group Dance/ModeF-Group and Solo Dance

220/1001 🌕🌕🌕🌑🌑

# Playlist track - Track A - Solo Dancer # Notes - This is hard to hear. It commands so much attention, and it keeps surprising you, bringing something new and changing course in the last minute. All the time! - You can either take that as a positive or a negative, but this is one hell of a ride. It was a bit exhausting to me, personally, especially the last track, that clocks out at almost 20 minutes. - An interesting experience, but one that I won't repeat soon.

Decent. Pleased I listened to it, I wouldn’t have done without your suggestion.

Experimental jazz that isn’t outright cacophonous. I probably owe this at least one more listen.

I like Jazz, love jazz, and this is supposed to be “the” greatest Jazz - but it left me feeling a little disjointed.

Considering I don’t really like jazz this was pretty nice. Especially liked the end of track C and the repeated motifs throughout the album.

Pretty enjoyable as a modern jazz album, not really sure why they chose this one over any of his others but not bad

Some wild jazz

a 3 1/2, pleasant listen that alludes mood and melancoly.

Not bad. I was picturing a bunch of ballerina doing there own interpretive dance to this and it being rather chaotic, while Lee Marvin runs around the stage in a panic dressed like a 1930s P.I. Come to think of it, I'd probably watch that movie.

I usually like jazz, but this just sounds like a bunch of noise

i'm not going to sit here and pretend like mr. mingus isn't extremely talented. this is clearly an expert musician with a well-honed craft. but once again we must return to how i personally felt about it. it felt like i was being chased by the physical manifestation of anxiety through a haunted forest. 40 minutes of stress. if that was the intention, he succeeded wildly. but for lil ol' me just trying to do my Spreadsheet Job, it was unpleasant. i did like the spanish guitar tho.

Like every great jazz album, it goes from moments of 5/5 to 1/5 at a second’s notice.

ZAH GUH !!!! This is probably his most traditional sounding record, but it is still so unique to jazz particularly when you think this is only 10 years after World War II. I can’t explain how why Mingus had such a profound effect on rock ‘n’ roll but He did and he still does.

Solid, probably sampled 1000 times

This is the brassiest brass to ever brass. Track c is my favorite. Chaotic and fast but great. The instruments sing in an almost human voice. Dagnabbit.

BLÖSER finds tönt mega mit dene schleppende blöser undem schnelle schlagzüg mitem bass track b het sochli atonali element (nenntmer das so? es tönt eifach amigs extra "falsch") take c chli wilder ala de rest bis jz tibiheitsch chani nöd mega vill dezue sege, ussert dass ichs eig easy gnosse han, wills au immer wieder öppis neus geh het, mengisch schön aber au sehr hüfig sehr unhinged

this flew way over my head. very discordant material, but purposefully, skillfully.

I appreciate the artistry, but there was too much chaos and dissonance for me to actually enjoy it as a whole.

Interesting. Not a huge jazz fan, but this seemed pretty experimental.

Solid jazz album.

Conjured up thoughts of strip clubs. Classy ones, not too seedy. All a bit much for a Monday morning.

Deze lijst zorgt voor veel aangename kennismakingen met het jazz-genre de laatste tijd. Ditmaal het meesterwerk van Charles Mingus. Gelukkig een betere productie dan de live-jazz-albums die toch ook veelvuldig terugkomen hier. Dit is het betere jazz wat ik echt goed kan waarderen. Ik blijf het een lastig en taai genre vinden, dus kan hier niet te hyped op reageren. Maar behoort tot het betere van wat tot nu toe is langsgekomen! 7/10 Highlights Track C

The extraordinary musicianship on this can’t be denied but it has to be tempered by knowing that Mingus was a angry man, prone to violent outbursts. He once punched a fellow musician in the face so hard it permanently damaged their ability to play the trombone. His anger is reflected in the music here - aggressive hard bop with diversions into blues and classical guitar. Apparently this was originally written as a ballet which is something that I want to see.

Far out man! Bit OTT for me but some really enjoyable moments and they can play!

The opening to all 4 parts felt like the soundtrack to a noir detective film, the scene where the young PI discovers his love interest has been snatched up by a rival, likely an Italian named something like Alfonse who has a pencil moustache

Good slow paced, but deep jazz. The types that would play in a fancy NY rooftop in a movie. Probably a bit too busy to have just as background music, but great if you want to actually pay attention to it.

You can almost hear the smoke and sweat on this one.

Bastante bien. Me gustó el saxofón y música muy tranquilita y chilling

Es perfecto para escucharlo con cascos. Me gusta sobretodo el toque de la flauta travesera. Quizás me falta mas diversidad en cuanto la melodia.

I'm not much of a jazz person. This was better then i expected. Wasn't bad to have on. Probably won't listen to it again.

This was good, just not my cup of tea. It's not the album, it's me.

Loved this album

I like this ok but not in my top 5 Mingus records. Since you asked, they are (in no particular order): - Mingus ah um - Tijuana Moods - Charles Mingus Presents Charles Mingus - Blues & Roots - The Great Concert

Avant-garde jazz: some love it, some hate it, and some spend a lifetime trying to appreciate it (but do not love it). I belong to that last group.

Very good build-up, but at the apex it definitely does get a little too noisy for me.

4 tracks of very dynamic Jazz. I probably cannot appreciate it as much as it deserves. 6/10

A great jazz album - a little fluttery in places, but a good listen.

I assume this is good it's definitely an interesting lesson. I don't have the vocabulary to really appreciate it

I was not in the mood for this album at all Track C was amazing

Jazz club with a chilled vibe

Oh boy another jazz album! I still haven't figured out the appeal of jazz yet. It's not bad, but it is a lot. 5/10 Would I listen again? Probably not, sorry Dingus

It's certainly Jazz

The talent is obvious and overflowing. I just feel I'd just have to really want to get fully into jazz to truly feel the significance and history of this record.

Pre-listening thoughts: Ok so I know Charles Mingus from my American music class but all I know is he’s a jazz artist from the later jazz era (that sort of late 50s-early 60s pivot). I looked at the track list and 4 songs at 39 mins is WILD (this is mostly cause of Track D being 17 mins on its own 😭). Jazz is crazy bro. I’ve grown to appreciate jazz music (some of it! Some bebop still isn’t really for me lol) over the past few years so we’ll see if I enjoy this or not. Post/during listening thoughts: So while jazz has grown on me I still have a hard time listening to music without words. It’s like watching a black and white movie to me like it’s just missing something and in this case that is the instrument and poetry of the voice. Is this good? Absolutely. This is mixed really well, with lots of instrument variety and different song segments and improvisation that show off different musicians who played on this record. In terms of jazz this is as good as it gets. However, me personally, I'm not gonna jump to put this on in the car ride to work or to dance to or anything. It’s a little shocking how fast the tracks go by considering how long they are. I don’t ever feel the album dragging. Its a genuinely good album but jazz is still not my genre of choice 6.5/10 DID I NEED TO HEAR THIS BEFORE I DIE: nah, but I’m sure some did Fav tracks: Tracks B&C Least fav tracks: n/a

This album was relaxing and easy to listen to. Not a jazz fan so wouldn't know a stellar jazz album.

Gillade denna (trots att jag bara hann med en genomlyssning) och hade varit coolt att se live. Medryckande och kräver aktiv lyssning. Några partier spårade ut lite väl mycket mot slutet, men annars bra!

Can’t stand songs that are long though. 12 minutes???

Second jazz album I’ve listened to from this list(and my entire life). Hard for me to rate but I thought this one was a bit better.

Parts of this are so off-putting that it’s 100% the jazz ppl think of when they say they don’t like jazz despite never having listened to jazz. A bunch of this just sounds like the worst kind of all night bender feels.

Really really good, unsurprisingly. Mingus is one of the greatest jazz musicians of all time.

Reminds me of the music in some old movies I like. Mostly bearable jazz!

I enjoyed quite a bit of it. There were some very fun and different sounds, but a lot of the time it just seemed a cacophony of noise. Too much going on at once, at least to my uncultured ear.

Not a bad jazz album. Very dark in parts and then interspersed with some kind of almost latin sounding guitar. Probably not one I'd revisit.

Wouldn't say its Charles Mingus' best, but an enjoyable listen none the less.

It's good, but I don't like all of it. Favorite song: track A solo dancer

Hard listen to jazz uninitiated. But I like the energy it transpires.

I would love to listen to this live. I would never listen to this again not-live.

I like Charles Mingus a lot, but this album was a little too "Swoozy," and I wasn't really into the classical guitar. So, it's definitely not a bad album, and I could see myself putting it on in the background, but it's definitely not a favorite or one I'm going to go back to often or really want to actively engage in, likely.

Experimental, Avant-Garde Jazz... So you know they're just making this shit up

Started out thinking it was frenetic and dated, ended thinking it was a cool, roll-neck-sweatered, Riviera boat-chase of a record.

The kind of experimental jazz that is too experimental for me. However, hella creative. I was biased towards a 3 instead of a 2 due to the inclusion of classical/flamenco guitars.

Very difficult to rate 1-5. A little too experimental to me, but still well executed.

This was cool, didn't blow my mind but wasn't bad.

Correcto

This is at the limit of jazz I enjoy to listen to, much prefer Davis or Coltrane, but I cannot deny the technical genius of Mingus, so understand how this made the list. 3/5

Jazz isn't my thing really. The album was OK, but I'm not clear what makes this considered a great album.

It's jazz. Obviously, they are talented but it's kind of hard to listen to.

Second Jazz standard over two days. Duke Ellington yesterday and Charles Mingus today. The only previous experience I’ve had with Mingus is Joni Mitchell’s collaboration with him on her album Mingus which I like very much. As. Regards this album was excited to listen in full. Wasn’t exactly disappointed but I think the jazziness of it all straying into very avant-garde jazz was a bit too much for my current level of jazz appreciation. I’m trying very hard to get into jazz but this album is not for the faint hearted and not one to dip your toes into the jazz canon. I think all the jazz buffs value this album very highly so I am guided by them to accept this is a very good album of its time and genre and grateful for the list to introduce me to Mingus. 3/5 18/6/24

evil trumpets

While I love most jazz, this album was interesting but not really my cup of tea.

I honestly try so hard to like jazz, but it's few and far between the jazz albums I can hear and actually enjoy. This had some juice moments but too few sadly.

I’m just not a big fan of jazz

I wish I could appreciate jazz more, but it rarely does a whole lot for me. This album was more of the same- enjoyable as background music, and this one has some unique sounds that got my attention, but just not my favorite style.

This was a quick lil listen. Lots of horns including that one from Jožin z Bážen…I feel like I don’t really know enough about jazz to know if this is good or not. I think I like percussion-forward jazz over horn-centric jazz?

This album is nice to have on as background music, the hats aren't as overpowering as normal jazz seems to have and it contains piano which I am a huge fan of.

I'm not well versed in jazz, so it's gonna take a few more listens for me to feel solid in my rating. But on first listen I really enjoyed this.

Sounds like the type of jazz going on in a 70s detective shows, with the lead narrating over the music about the crime they are getting ready to solve.

This was fine, but nothing extraordinary in terms of defining Jazz as an art form. Part of the album reminded me of the Taxi Driver score. The last track goes on forever.

This wasn't too bad. Kinda liked it as background music.

Quite the journey. LOVED the start but it dissolves into a bit too much randomness I think. Still a really interesting listen.

Jazzzz

Chaotic. At times dissonant, at times lyrical, but always interesting.

Jazz escapes me…

I really tried to listen and immerse myself but just still not appreciating the genre. I did appreciate this one and connect a little more than others before

I appreciate this as some good jazz music but jazz is something I only listen to on occasion. Have to me in the right mood I guess. But next time I'm feeling like some jazz maybe I'll explore more of Charels Mingus' work.

This was certainly lively! Lots going on. Appreciate the talent and the emotional chaos of this, but jazz has yet to find a special place in my heart. I could see this being a favorite of jazz fans though.

Beautiful, dark. Kind of haunting?

I may have to listen to this again. I really like Mingus, but felt that this was too far out there. Though there were parts that I really liked. Did not think it was the masterpiece that everyone else does. 3 stars for now.

I’m not sure if I understand this. A lot of noise. Some pleasing parts.

Favorite Track: Track C-Group Dancers

Fantastically chaotic

4 Tracks of very upbeat, high tempo Jazz. Gonna go on a limb and say that the other tracks aren't cleared for Spotify, but from what I heard, this deff leaves me wanting more. Update: apparently it's just 4 tracks?!? Added them all, would love this in LP form!

Enjoyable (particularly the second and third tracks) , but I don't know enough about jazz to fully appreciate it

I don’t have any frame of reference with jazz music to know how it fits into the bigger picture. Easy to listen or work to but nothing Id put back on if I had a choice. Rating: 3.1

It was ok. 2.5/5

Not a jazz fan

Really good overall and definitely unique listening experience, but not really my thing to go back and listen to

I dig this jazz. Was not expecting jazz when reading the artist's name. Thought it was some psychedelic solo 70s artist.

Adventurous and unsettling, definitely not for everyone. Interesting blend of loveliness and chaos. Fave Song: Track C – Group Dancers

High Quality Jazz! I had never heard of Charles Mingus before. It was a beautiful surprise! I liked!

It is decent background music, but it is no Miles Davis.

Trumpet both good and bad

I would really like to give this a 3.5 but I can't so imma give it a 3 because I didn't love the chaos. I really liked the piano and trombone but I felt that it felt kinda scattered and spastic in places and I didn't love that. The trumpet was cool at first but I kinda got over it after the first little bit. Other than those two things it was pretty groovy.

solo instrumentals were nice, but when they all played together it often felt jumbled. too many discordant notes. enjoyed the flamenco guitar featured in one piece. last track went on entirely too long.

Very interesting Jazz, fun instrumentation and interesting techniques and sounds. Pretty good!

Interesting. A good album.

good, but forgetable

Heel moeilijk album om te reviewen. Dit is echt experimentele jazz, en maakt ook dat het echt lastig is om hier naar te luisteren. Er zijn stukken die geniaal zijn en stukken die ik nooit meer wil horen, ik heb geen favoriete nummers hier, omdat deze stukken telkens in hetzelfde nummer zitten en elk nummer complete chaos is en absolute stilte. Wat een reis was dit album zeg, ik moet ff bijkomen.

En etsiskellyt enkä paöjoa löytänyt samanlaista soitantaa 4 biisiä albumiksi läppästy.. Missään vaiheessa en toki unimpressed... Masters for 1963 year..

I don't listen to a lot of Jazz. Maybe Big Band Jazz (Sintra and such), but this style is foreign to me. This was good music that created an atmosphere. I can see myself enjoying this album again. Sounded like it could be a soundtrack or a movie score. This album generator finally has done what I was hoping it would do, turn my ears on to music that for whatever reason has passed me by.

Amazing melodies

I prefer my jazz either groovy or moody. This is neither. It’s a grand chaos, but rather unwelcoming. As if one stopped by a derailed party completely sober. Stay a bit and let the chaos seep into you, or follow your urge to move on.

lil too much going on for my tastes

Vinyl ?

3 stars because I'm not sure how to rate this (I don't listen to jazz)

Musically sound. Not my style but would be his background music

This music just gives me anxiety for some reason. Very talented musicians, but the sound is so frantic that I don't like it much.

Short album. Definitely need to be in the mood for it, but I liked it. Sounded kinda familiar.

only 40 minutes. Good Jazz jams. Some recognisable tunes

Està bé, però el jazz em costa molt. M'agrada l'estil que té com allargant les notes, com si s'arrosseguessin per terra amb mandra. A part d'això, no puc dir molt més perquè no en sé. Vale, no m'esperava la guitarra allà enmig, m'ha sorprès positivament. Expected Lorenzo Rating: 4

Not sure

Nice of them to include the soundtrack from Ed, Edd & Eddy on this project. Not my preferred jazz style to listen to. 6/10

I normally don't listen to jazz voluntarily. This was okay. It didn't annoy me and I was able to code to it fairly well. It wasn't jarring or distracting. I will try to give this album a few more listens to see how it grows on me.

I don’t listen to / know much about jazz but this was a very nice listen.

Pretty cool and unique jazz album and I don't think I'll hear something like that for a while

Meni yllättävän meluksi välillä, mutta pysyi sentään kasassa. Kiva rakenne levyllä, selkeät ”teokset” (ennemmin kuin biisit). Sekin toi järjestystä paikoin näennäiseen kaaokseen joka ei ole kaaos. Taitavaa, ja torvisoittimista pidän yleisesti. Ei vaikeaa kuunnella, mutta ei suosikkiasiani kuitenkaan. Kakkonen tuntuu silti vähättelyltä.

Very much jazz

More traditional jazz, very intricate instrument work but more difficult to get into a flow with it, enjoyed it in parts, especially the blues-y ending to Group dancers

As much as I enjoy Mingus, this one's difficult for me to access. Maybe if I listened several more times?

Day boi Mingus

I’m a simple man. I see the boi mingus, i’m happy.

Track A - a lot of fun Track B - somewhat less fun Track C - mental Mode D, E, F - not sure what is going on

Fiati in primo piano e un'atmosfera che mi fa immaginare le grandi città americane nel dopoguerra. Il basso non risulta il principale protagonista, probabilmente perché questo album meriterebbe ascolti con impianti di qualità migliore rispetto allo streaming. Ottima musica, ma non fruibile in ogni momento del giorno, se comparata ad altri standard di questo genere musicale.

I liked the blues sound combination of piano and sax.

Some pretty decent jazz that liked to add these weird, sinister, off-key sections that didn't always flow super well. Points for originality and overall brevity, but not my first choice when it comes to jazz.