Meat Is Murder

muah

i love The Smiths !

Pretty good. Has a nice balance between slow and upbeat. Unique singing style too

ok i like the smiths whatEVER

Great album. Yes, Morrisey is a prick but the Smiths should be judged as a band and the rest of the guys shine on this one. More upbeat(relative) than most of the rest of The Smiths output and I’m here for it. 7/10 Favorite tracks- “Rusholme Ruffians” “I Want the One I Can’t Have” “Barbarism Begins at Home”

A guy could probably go through this entire list and not find a single act as cool as naming an album “Meat Is Murder”. It’s a really admirable indifference to record sales etc, for the sake of Making A Point. Meat eaters (I’m a meat eater) get so worked up about vegans, and it’s obviously because vegans are at least kinda right. Meat IS murder and at the very least, you should have to sit with that every once in a while. It’s such an inflammatory phrase, and without a doubt there are a LOT of people who will never listen to the Smiths just because they know they have an album called Meat Is Murder. That rocks, on the Smiths’ part. It’s also cool and funny that through all of this, they’re also a pretty wimpy sounding band. I like the Smiths now.

brilliant

I don't know much by The Smiths. I really like How Soon Is Now though. So this album I think was all new to me. I liked it.

This is like the glint in someone's eye. In a flash, you can see the clear shift of emotion and thought. It creates a little excitement. It's playful. Clever. Often mischievous.

good

ægte hipster tumblr-core album, men tror også jeg er en hipster?? glad for at dykke mere ned i The Smiths og elsker når folk har modige budskaber og tør være politiske med deres musik

the smiths are classic! there are always absolute bangers on any record

The Smiths are such a solid band that it’s hard to fault them on anything. Meat Is Murder isn’t their magnum opus, but it’s a great example of the bands strengths. The acoustic guitar and Morrissey's vocals are the very soul of the band and they are both done well here. The music on this album varies from danceable to outright dreamlike. I hadn’t heard this one yet, but it reaffirmed my enjoyment of the band.

I like the smiths a lot! They have a very distinct sound and I’ve already listened to a bunch of these songs not knowing the album because I feel like they have a very cohesive sound across their discography. Love them, and they’re nice to listen to!

I thoroughly enjoyed it. I love 80s pop and Indie so....

2nd Smiths so far. Not as good as Queen but still very enjoyable. I did feel bad eating my burger after listening to it…

I liked it. I haven't listened to the smiths in a while and I dont even know that many songs so this was nice

4/5 best baseline not their best album tho

very impressed. never bothered to give these guys a listen and i've heard so much. thought it was gonna be some pretentious garbage but I was wrong. I ****ed up

The headmaster ritual - 5 Rusholme ruffians - 4 I want the one I can't have - 5 What she said - 4 That joke isn't funny - 4 Nowhere fast - 3 Well I wonder - 5 Barbarism begins at home - 4 Meat is murder - 1 * How soon is now? - 5

How Soon is Now is probably my favorite Smith's song so not sure why it's not there on Spotify but I'll pretend it is. I swear to God that Morrisey is singing the same song no matter what the band is playing. I've come to actually like Morrisey and one of the things that I've gotten out of this project is a tolerance for Morrisey. Could be worse. His singing style is totally his own and you can't mistake him for anyone else. The music behind the vocals is actually pretty great. I especially liked What She Said and Nowhere Fast. Barbarism Begins at Home is a great groove, they just milk it too long for almost 7 minutes. Interesting stuff. I gave it a few listens.

Gosh I haven’t listened to Meat Is Murder in a LONG time. It was the first Smiths album that I bought and I could swear my copy had How Soon Is Now? on it, but it’s not on the streaming version. Just a tiny Wiki look confirms that it definitely was on there. Why is this important? Because How Soon Is Now? is the best song The Smiths ever made. Its inclusion on Meat Is Murder took my opinion of this album to higher ground. The rest of this record lies between ok and great. Everything you’d expect from them is here: the jangly guitars, the solid rhythm section, Morrissey being woe-is-me and self righteous and insufferable all at once. If he’d died as much as he claims he might, he’d never have made it past their first record. Even though it’s good, without How Soon Is Now?, it’s just not as great overall as say The Queen Is Dead. Highlights include The Headmaster Ritual, What She Said, That Joke Isn’t Funny Anymore and Nowhere Fast, which is their second best song ever imo. The end of the record pushes an agenda that I’m here for, but is done in such a counterproductive way. While presenting the horror of meat production in a 100% factual light, I’ve found that calling people murderers doesn’t get them to stop such behavior if they’ve been raised to believe that eating meat is necessary for their health. I’m sure many people became vegetarian because of this, but many more likely dug their heels in harder and ate more meat out of spite. I’ve been vegetarian for over 26 years now, but NOT because of this record and NOT because some brand new militant vegan called me a murderer (though I’ve had my share of them). I do it because eating well brings happiness to my life. I’m over 50, and yet I still physically and mentally feel like I’m 25 everyday. And cows (and pigs, and chickens, and sheep, etc…) truly are beautiful, loving creatures who exist, not for us, but for themselves. If you’re looking for more plant based food in your life, try this website: https://vegweb.com/recipes

Pretty good

VEGETARIAN PROPAGANDA!! jk It was actually pretty cool

Already knew this one, luvly so it is. Self titled track is probs least favourite tho

love the smiths but this isn't one of their best albums

love

I loved this album, evry sing was amazing. Would definitely listen to again.. Stevie Wonder GOAT, ive never heard him like this and i really liked it.

good similar to what i would listen to normally and their other songs. i like the political messages behind them and how MIM makes you think. well i wonder is my fav, i give it an 8. this is closer to what i listen to but still not as good as the queen is dead for me

This is a great album. I have already listened to it plenty. It was nice to have an excuse to put it on again though.

Meat Is delicious...

I actually enjoyed this chill rock genre. I didn’t expect to like a 1980s rock album, but this one was quite pleasant. There were no outstanding songs in this album, but almost all of them were decent or good. A solid 4/5, but not close to making it to 5 stars.

good

Love Johnny Marr’s guitar

Not usually my thing but I liked this a lot.

Not the best album of the Smiths, still okay, it seemed to be a lot more folk-influenced than their others, fav song is „Well i wonder“

i get it, i'm already depressed enough Would I listen again? No Deserves to be on this list? Yeah 3.6

Bra bra bra!

Ενδιαφερουσα μελωδική μουσικη , τα φωνητικα θα προτιμουσα να εχουν λιγο λιγοτερο sustain , ξεχωρισα το barbarism begins at home που εχει γαματο intro /riff

I’ve never given the Smiths a chance beyond their big hits. I enjoyed this album, quick and energetic as it was. Need further listening to appreciate the full concept. Ironically, Barbarism Begins at Home slaps hard. I prefer an album just like this with continuity or even better songs at the end, rather than putting three hits at the top and the rest is a slog.

One of their weaker albums but still good. Issues with Morrissey aside, he does sound on fine form vocally on this album and Marr is as good as always ‘That joke isn’t funny anymore’ has always been one of my favourite songs of theirs and continues to hold up well.

Partner said he'd give this a 5 but that he's incapable of being impartial about it, and I said, hey, I am. 3.5

Enjoyed a lot. Strong REM and Radiohead vibes

Rusholme Ruffians might be the worst Smiths song I've heard. And 6 minutes is too long for this insufferable pro-Vegetarian song. Though I guess I shouldn't really expect anything more from Morrissey. Other than that, this album is pretty great. I would rank it as my least favourite studio album by The Smiths though.

The jaunty new wave tracks juxtaposed with morissey’s broodiness is a cool effect. I particularly liked “Rusholme Ruffians” and “Barbarism begins at home”.

Much of this record is great - the intense music - the guitar, the bass!, and Morrissey's often heartbreaking lyrics. What I was most looking forward to on this record was "How Soon is Now," though, which I swear was on the US version of this record, but it isn't on the version linked here since it wasn't on the original UK release. Too bad, I really like that song. Despite my disappointment about not getting to hear "How Soon is Now," I've given this a 4/5, since it really is quite good.

Two things you can count on listening to the Smiths: excellent guitar playing and mesmerizing vocals. That is on full display here, and the songs range from good to great. I was close to giving this listen full marks, just a couple songs didn’t hit me as much as I would have liked. Best Track: I Want the One I Can’t Have

It's too bad that Morrissey is so completely insufferable, because he makes me not want to get into The Smiths, and they *are* a really great band. The tension between Morrissey's (admittedly irreplaceable) self-pitying, Gothic poetry and Johnny Marr's brilliant, organic guitar work created a great many fantastic songs, which were held down by Andy Rourke and Mick Joyce's airtight rhythm section. The Smiths were a fantastic band, plain and simply. And this is as vital as any other Smiths album. I will admit, I think there are a couple songs here that are a little too jangly for my taste (Rusholme Ruffians is the worst offender). And I also don't think most of The Smiths *very* best songs are here (with a couple of exceptions). But what this album is is still very enjoyable. I think Meat Is Murder is at it's strongest when really embracing the classic dark indie rock sound that I think The Smiths are most well known for. I Want The One I Can't Have *is* some of the band's best work: some of Marr's best ever playing is here, and they way the band locks in to serve as a soundtrack for Morrissey is remarkable. That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore is also ingenious: a kind of slightly dirgey ballad with an incredible melodic heart. Nowhere Fast, Barbarism Begins At Home(another song with fantastic guitar work), The Headmaster Ritual, Well I Wonder, and the title track (despite being preachy and on the nose) are also favorites of mine. And honestly, for as easy as it is to rag on Morrissey, his lyrics here are pretty interesting. He is very much obsessed with violence present in all aspects of domesticity: in love, school, parenting, and even food. It is pretty interesting. Meat is Murder is probably not the greatest Smiths album, and it doesn't have *most* of the band's greatest songs. But taken as it is, it's still an essential Smiths album with a some great songs and even a *couple* of generational classics. This was well worth my time, Morrissey has made it hard for me to want to get into The Smiths, so I can do with the generator twisting my arm here and there to make me listen to their, admittedly great music.

I didn't expect it to resonate with me but I quite liked it!

Well that’s just good timing to have this following a Phil Spector album.

Both times I’ve listens to well I wonder I have teared up. That is how achingly beautiful that song is. This album’s most entrancing, haunting moments of beauty come when Morissey’s falsetto suddenly appears to break a song open with no warning. Another example is meat is murder, which I’m sure has had a big life outside this album but that is also just so gorgeous, and the ridiculous lyrics only serve to emphasize its aesthetic qualities.

This was never my favorite Smith's album, but I was looking forward to listening today to see if maybe my opinion changed over the years. Whereas I'd listened to The Queen Is Dead and Strangways (and Louder Than Bombs) many many times, this is one that got much fewer spins. It's not a bad album at all. tt's actually quite good, but I think the albums that followed this one are out and out classics. There are good songs on here-The Headmaster Ritual, That Joke, Well I Wonder, and Barbarism-none of them light a candle to the highlights from the other's I'd mentioned above. This album is still a solid 4, but the others are definite 5's.

Another solid Smiths album

Good album. I kind of only like selective songs from their discography but it was a fun full listen of the album. They're good at having rhythm and they don't have over complicated music. 7.4/10

I've been plenty critical of much of the Smiths' and Morrissey's musical output up to this point, but I'll be dawned that Meat is Murder is actually really good. It's well constructed, funky, and has a good variety and mix of tracks. The two closing tracks do a great job of closing the curtain on the album, and the song meat is murder is quite a heavy listen for us omnivores/ex-vegetarians. Xmas prime rib dinner is gonna have a more pensive chew to it this year, that's for sure. 4/5

Favourite song: Rusholme Ruffians Listened to with Charlie, he was thrilled.

I have such a frustrating relationship with The Smiths. On one hand, the band had one of (in my opinion) the greatest and coolest guitar players of all time in Johnny Marr, but on the other hand, had one of the most morose, self-interested, preachy yet admittedly intelligent vocalists of all time in Morrissey. This Marr/Morrissey partnership was so fraught with conflicting ideals and clashes of personality, but damn they produced some brilliant music. I'd argue that 'Meat Is Murder' is probably the weakest of The Smiths' four studio albums, but its by no means terrible given the sheer strength of The Smiths' catalogue. 'The Headmaster Ritual' is a brilliant rebuke of the punishing state school system, 'Barbarism Begins at Home' is a biting criticism of corporal punishment against children (backed by a brilliant funk bass line from the late Andy Rourke), and there's plenty of Morrissey's trademark 'woe is me' witticisms in songs like 'I Want the One I Can't Have', 'Well I Wonder' and 'What She Said'. But where the album really gets preachy is the title track, where Morrissey scolds meat-eaters for their "murder" of animals to satisfy their dinner plates. Now, I am not at all critical of people who feel strongly about sticking to vegetarianism/veganism for the sake of animal welfare, but when you're deriding other people for not conforming to your views, you really need to take a look in the mirror, something Morrissey has proven time and again he is incapable of doing. I really respect the guy for what he's given music, but god he's hard to respect. Johnny Marr was the best thing about The Smiths, and I'll die on that hill. With that said, the band wouldn't be the same without Morrissey, as problematic a character as he is. Best songs: The Headmaster Ritual, I Want the One I Can't Have, What She Said, Well I Wonder, Barbarism Begins at Home

The Smiths are one of those bands you can always count on for effortlessly enjoyable music, filled with melodic and catchy hooks backed by jangly guitars. Their melancholic vibe is perfectly balanced with energetic performances, making their music both introspective and lively.

Smiiiiiths

Very good album, just missing some highlights for me to really put it at the top. But enough variety and pleasant songs to listen to. Only song I didn't really like was the title track, ironically. 4/5

I love The Smiths. Sorry? I said I love The Smiths.

Not my favorite Smiths album but still really good. And my son would be very disappointed in me if I didn't give it at least a 4 because it's one of his favorites.

The Smiths be like: "I'm so lonely and miserable, and nothing ever works out for me aaawwwwwaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh" Absolutely love it.

I still like Morrissey. The haters can’t change my mind.

Beatles like pop with acoustic melancholy What she said That joke isn't funny anymore

I cannot listen to The Smiths, but I appreciate their style and unslderstand why this album is on the list 4/5

Хороший альбом з їх фірмовим стилем, дуже консистентний. Подобаються тут програші гітарні практично в кожній пісні. Єдине, що немає супер хіта на альбомі.

Love this album front to back. Sharp witty lyrics, funky bass, bright crisp guitars, such an easy and fun listen.

7/10

4 stars. This is 4 stars on The Smiths scale, though. (Note that this rating is also based on the proper UK version, which does not contain How Soon is Now) For other groups, this album may be 5 stars. MIM is in the middle of the pack of my favorite Smiths albums (still not a bad thing), but a 5 star rating is reserved for The Queen is Dead, in the least. Favorite songs - Well I Wonder, That Joke Isn’t Funny Anymore I Want The One I Can’t Have

Un bon album!

great album, have heard before, fav song is well I wonder

Young, feisty, political firebrand Morrissey isn't as dryly witty as he would be on The Queen Is Dead, but he has found a pacey, energetic sound for a soapbox, powered by the darting guitar work of Johnny Marr, and the results are fine. Only a few sloggy songs keep this one from ranking higher, but the best stuff is very good.

The Smiths have some very underrated musicianship. Johnny Marr is rightfully praised highly but the unspoken hero is the bassist Andy Rourke, who sadly passed a couple years ago.

ben oui les smiths qu'on les aime bien

021022 13:10 4

While my hate for Morrissey is large I do enjoy this album, particularly Headmasters Ritual. Rusholme Ruffians has a great bassline. Coming back to this as almost every song has a sick bassline. The Joke Isn't Funny Anymore has a dreamy element to it that is just lovely. Can really hear a direct influence on Radiohead here. Riff during Barbarism Begins at Home is great. Reminds me of the Talking Heads a bit. Pretty solid rekkid overall. Probably my favorite from the Smiths. The instrumentation definitely carries it with Morrissey's shitty voice.

I've struggled with the Smiths in the past but enjoyed this

We've gotten bands previously that I wished I had discovered when I was a teenager (Rage Against the Machine, Megadeth) but this is definitely one I'm glad I dodged. Great music but the Smiths are just smallpox blankets into the tribes of teenage malaise and angst. It's a tight band, I've always loved their jangly guitars, and you truly never really know where Morissey is taking you with his lyrics.

Fun to listen to. gives me cure vibes. good messages. some unique sounding songs, cool basslines.

Silly title, great music

Strangeways was better, but this was solid

Not my favourite album by The Smiths, but still breathtaking music. The weakest part is the title track.

Gotta love Johnny Marr. Lost me at a few moments but overall great, very cool guitar and bass tones to be found here.

Good album

"Meat Is Murder" captures The Smiths in the midst of an evolution away from their debut sound, which, while progressive, results in a collection of songs that feels less clearly defined than their other records. That said, the album contains some truly magnificent tracks and offers a very rewarding listening experience. (4/5) Note "How Soon Is Now?" wasn't on the original UK release but it's been included for years so I'm including on this review. Standout tracks: - "The Headmaster Ritual" - A blistering opener. A driving a critique of corporal punishment and the repressive British school system. - "That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore" - A beautiful, melancholic ballad built around an echoing guitar line. Morrissey's voice is at its most vulnerable. - "How Soon Is Now?" - Defined by its unique sonic landscape. It completely departs from the signature guitar jangle sound of The Smiths. The song is a brilliant portrayal of crippling social anxiety and loneliness. The narrator goes out to a club, hoping to meet someone, but his shyness keeps him marooned, watching everyone else. Stunning. - "Barbarism Begins at Home" - Funky guitar from Marr and a stunning bassline from Rourke. Morrissey's lyrics are an attack on child abuse and domestic violence. Side one No. Title 1 "The Headmaster Ritual" (5/5) 2 "Rusholme Ruffians" (4/5) 3 "I Want the One I Can't Have" (4/5) 4 "What She Said" (4/5) 5 "That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore" (5/5) Side two 6 "How Soon Is Now?" (5/5) 7 "Nowhere Fast" (4/5) 8 "Well I Wonder" (4/5) 9 "Barbarism Begins at Home" (5/5) 10 "Meat Is Murder" (4/5) Total - 44 Average - 4.40 165/1001 91/165 albums reviewed were new to me.

just great.

I’ve likely listened to this album 1,000 times in my life…The Smiths were MY band through high school and Morrissey solo through college until Tool came along. There is a familiarity here that is unmatched. And yet I didn’t enjoy it quite as much as I expected to today. With time, I’ve grown to more deeply appreciate and love Johnny Marr and the brilliance of the music. It’s always been the perfect sweet to SPM’s sour but it’s the music that speaks to me now. Joke, I Wonder and Barbarism still shine. This is not their best work - see Hatful of Hollow - but still worthy. 4/5

Ye it's cool

Another band I’ve heard of my whole life, it seems, but have only heard a couple of songs. For a long time, I got the Smiths and the Cure confused. I thought both were just the same kind of goth rock, and I still think that’s true, but I know which witch is which. Anyway, the Smiths popped up in my wheelhouse of radio rock and pop, the 1980s. However, I don’t think they were as big in the U.S. as they were in Europe. Even though the Smiths sounded like all the bands on the radio at the time, I don’t remember hearing their songs. At least not like say, Duran Duran, a band I still love. Meat Is Murder is the second album from the Smiths and the one that kind of broke them. It’s full of what the critics would call indie rock for that time or post-punk. Guitarist Johnny Marr wrote all the music, and this cat named Morrissey wrote all the lyrics, and by all accounts was quite a bit of an a-hole. Though if you were a fan of the Smiths, he was your kind of a-hole. The Smiths' music was a melancholy type of pop/rock. Morrissey’s lyrics were dark, but you could sing along. There are songs about love, death, how hard it is to be a teenager, and how meat is murder. Yes, Morrissey was a vegetarian, and he wanted to convert everyone to his side. He kind of makes a compelling argument on the song Meat Is Murder. I found it very hard to listen to, but I still had chili for lunch. When the album came out, some critics loved it and some hated it, which I think is a good thing. If you can’t get universal praise, but you can get people to just feel anything, it was an achievement. They released just one single from this album called, That Joke Isn’t Funny Anymore, which got to 49 on the UK singles chart, but didn’t chart in the U.S. I really liked this album, but I am a product of the 1980s and new wave/post-punk. I think they would have fit in perfectly on U.S. radio, but they just never broke here. Maybe it was Morrissey’s attitude, maybe they just got lost in the shuffle, maybe they didn't release enough singles, who knows? Whatever the case, the Smiths went on to become a huge cult favorite that ended up going mainstream over a period of time. I think this is an album you need to hear just to see what we in the States missed out on with the Smiths. Though if you were a goth back then, you already knew how good they were and are pissed metalheads like me are now fans. I get it, I do, but the heart wants what the heart wants, brother.

Et fint album hvor mye treffer godt. Har ikke hørt denne smiths skiva før og er overraska over hvor bluesa det er, positivt overraska! Og han har jo helt rett, kjøtt er mord!

good production and the flow from the singer kinda nice. It is quite atmospherical. Good for a late night

Good album, but feels outdated compared to other albums from the same period. Still super Good experience, great for a long drive.

Really nice! "Barbarism begins at home" is great!

I always thought that Morrissey's voice was a bit too whiny, but it isn't really that bad on this album.

Pre: I haven't listend to this smith's album yet but I'm a fan of the other music I've heard. Post: just as good as the rest I've heard

Such a weird mix of bangers and duds. Also, why is this man yelling at me? I dig the massive 80s snare and shoegazey guitar tones. I’m forgiving some shit songs with this rating because some of the others are pretty cool for the era.

7/10 It's fine.

Morrissey seems a bit sad?! Johnny Marr writes such good riffs and parts.

I like the smiths a lot so I was excited for this one. I enjoyed the album, but after two listens any particular song didnt stand out remarkably but I will likely listen again. As a whole tho it’s great except the beginning of the last song creeps me out. Oh and also love love love the bass in barbarism begins at home.

Had all the things that make smith albums good, the clean guitar work, the witty but personable lyrics, and a little more. This is probably my second favorite album of theirs, and all things considered i think its excellent. If i had to complain i would say it drags a little in the middle but not enough to heavily detract from my opinion. My standout track is Barbarism Begins At Home, I really like the themes on it.

Not a bad album but not super riveting.

There’s not a full smiths album I like, this one’s probs the best of the ones I’ve heard

I like the Smiths without really liking the Smiths all that much. But I listened all the way through and was rewarded. Several quality songs on this one, and by the end I could appreciate it. Favorite songs: "That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore." "Well I Wonder" "Barbarism Begins at Home"

I think I liked this in spite of Morrisey being a bit of a wanker. The music is really strong, and the lyrics good. The title track is turgid but the rest is easy on the ears.

*The Headmaster Ritual: love everything about this, it's so reverb heavy and spaced out. little bit gothy? *Rusholme Ruffians: really really like it. this sounds like so much music I already listen to I Want the One I Can't Have: vocals are a bit iffy at certain points but it doesn't ruin the song. I adore the way the guitars sound on this record, really easy on the ears What She Said: mix is weird on this one, the vocals are so forward you can barely hear what the instruments are doing. it sounds like an intentional choice but I don't like it personally. *That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore: the "kick em when they fall down part" goes crazy. melodramatic as hell. repetitive but it's effective, not annoying *Nowhere Fast: this song sounds sooo goooood. *Well I Wonder: most listened track on the album. seems to be for good reason, it's gorgeous and his vocals really shine here Barbarism Begins at Home: seven minute song, locking in. why is he barking??? pups against corporal punishment. no need for this to be as long as it is, there's probably four or five minutes of good song in here Meat is Murder: crazy intro, genuinely a bit unsettling. lyrics are so blunt and melodramatic that it borders parody. weird choice to throw this in at the end and then name the entire album after it but I respect a militant vegan __ SCORE: 7/10 ADDED TO PLAYLIST: The Headmaster Ritual, Rusholme Ruffians, That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore, Nowhere Fast, What I Wonder

The Headmaster Ritual - 5/5 Rusholme Ruffians - 4/5 I Want the One I Can't Have - 4/5 What She Said - 3/5 That Joke Isn't Funny - 5/5 Nowhere Fast - 4/5 Well I Wonder - 4/5 Barbarism Begins at Home - 4/5 Meat Is Murder - 2/5 Average score: 3.9/5 ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ i still think The Queen Is Dead is The Smiths at their peak, but this was okay. i think the preachiness of the last track knocked my rating down a bit more than i hoped

GUESS WHOS BACK! And not a bad album to start off with. With "The Queen is Dead" prolly being my favourite album so far on this project, expectations coming into this were high. I don't think this disappointed. There wasn't a song on this that matched the quality of TQID but still a good album nonetheless.

As an indie rock lover, it baffles me that it took me so long to listen to The Smiths. I thoroughly enjoyed this album and would listen to it again happily! This is the best vegan album I've ever listened to.

1001 Albums Generator 148 (10/25/2025) Some amazing guitar and bass work throughout. The end of the album is particularly fantastic, besides the meandering, weird title track. This album went so hard while I was eating a burger. 4/5. Favs: That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore Well I Wonder Barbarism Begins At Home Least Fav: Meat Is Murder

Har sansen. Liker hele pakken. Dette albumet ble litt lite variert. Lander på en svak firer.

I forget sometimes what an original and awesome guitarist Johnny Marr is. Then I listen to an album like this and am instantly reminded. A really good album, but also could be the answer to "which album has the worst title track of all time?"

I hate vegan propaganda but I love the Smiths

Solid. Though all the songs all kinda sounded very same same.

The Headmaster - classic guitar intro - ooh the vocals ooh nannanana yayayy are real nice - repetitive, but i feel like its just opening the door to the rest of the album Rusholme Ruffians - ooh LOVE that riff - can definitely hear some of that "heaven knows i'm miserable now" in the way the singer plays with their vocals - outro is cool, like a mechanical switching of songs I Want the One I Can't Have - oh hell yea, sad beachy vibes for sure - beach vibes, car chase, probably my favorite track out of the 3 so far What She Said - nice rockin intro - vocals are such a contrast to the instrumentals; they're so upbeat and then you have the melancholic vocals, especially in this track. i can see why they have such a cult following! That Joke Isn't Funny - now theeeese are the instrumentals i'd expect with these kind of vocals, slower and moodier - oh whoah, just when the song i think is over it fades back in from the dead where it left off, really cool Nowhere Fast - doesn't stand out too much from the rest for me it feels like Well I Wonder - back to slower and sad - well, vocals are sad, instrumentals are chill and kinda soft/beachy in parts Barbarism Begins at Home - love the instrumentals - love the dog barks into the mic hahaha kinda unexpected but not unpleasant - my guy likes his drawn out outros - bass is dope at the end Meat is Murder - as a long time vegetarian; respect lol - like the distortion, sounds pretty different to anything else so far - COWS ? - first song i've heard that is so pro vegetarian, its cool - can't tell if its a kid, a woman or a pitched version of his vocals in the background but its giving me babe vibes which add to the vegetarianess of it all - dang this song came out of left field yet is the title track? maybe the rest of the album is what's out of left field despite being a tumblr kid of the 2010s, i've never listened to a smiths album back to back. i like the instrumentals a LOT, and the messaging and lyrics are dope too! however i don't think i jive well with the lead's vocals, which is too bad as i like the juxtaposition between the upbeat instrumentals and the sad vocals. there's just something thats like can "they put the mic away for a sec? i want to hear more of the isntruments!" all in all alright album, not a fave but don't hate it either.

My God, everything about The Smiths is fantastic. If you don't like them, you're probably walking the wider path. 4.5/5 album. Timeless.

-1 star for the sanctimonious Johnny Marr.

For me the last great Smith’s album. The beginning of the end.

I'd never really listened to the Smiths. I knew the name Morrissey. I hated this at first, but after a few songs his voice really started to resonate. After listening to the whole album, I was hooked. This is a masterpiece. The musicianship is outstanding.

It's not my favorite Smiths album but it's still The Smiths. Unique writing and lyrics that feel dreamlike to listen to, with pleasant instrumentals. Morrissey is still a piece of garbage, though.

Great production and sound, varied songs, holds up very well.

Probably the weakest Smiths album for me, but still very good.

really liked it. kind of boring in the middle though

I think The Smiths may be one of the few examples of a band where each subsequent album they released is better than the previous one. The debut has some great tracks but the production is tinny and horrid, then Meat is Murder has the band stretvhing itself more and better production, next The Queen Is Dead where Marr and Morrissey bring in more orchestration and nail the epic pop song with Bigmouth Strikes Again and There is a Light... and lastly, my personal favourite album of theirs and their swansong Strangeways. But listening to Meat is Murder again for the first time in years has got me questioning that narrative as I think it may be on a par with the more widely-lauded The Queen Is Dead which has a few clunkers. It's definitely Andy Rourke's best album with the group with some stellar and almost downright funky basslines. The three track run in the middle of the LP is amongst the best in their catalouge - What She Said, That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore, Nowhere Fast. The upward trajectory theory of the Smiths may be ruined but at least we still have the downward trajectory of Moz as a human being which shows no sign of being reversed.

Did you even try to be happy

In six years they published four great albums.

Not their best album, but still great and pivotal enough. I've always liked The Smiths and Morrissey, there's something in his voice. Maybe he's just unique enough to find loveable.

I once saw Morrissey at the Apollo Theater in NYC, and everyone there looked like Otho from Beetlejuice.

Maybe "How Soon is Now?" was on the cassette I had on that last night of the fair when this album created me, and it seems one star less without it. Otherwise, every squirmy teenager needs this record and the warning fable that is Morrissey today to keep a hand on the tiller.

Outside of the heavy-handed and dreary title track, this is fantastic, a showcase for what a great band The Smiths were. Johnny Marr and bassist Andy Rourke shine on the tight funk of “Barbarism Begins at Home” and the breakaway punk of “What She Said.” The version I listened to (from the band’s official YouTube channel) did not include the world-beating single “How Soon is Now?” that was included in U.S. versions of this release.

A wonderful sounding album. The Smiths deserve their spot in music history.

A great, original record by a great original band. Too good to last.

Es un Smiths que desconocía, me agrado saber que es su esencia

Track 1 - enjoying so far, not really focusing, but giving smiths vibes. Which makes sense because uh, it is the smiths. OMG I LOVE A FADE OUT!! Track 2 - Very upbeat. This is not what I associate the smiths with. I really like the vibe though. Track 3 - I’d like to come back to this because the lyrics I’m picking up sound quite interesting. I’d like to understand the lyricism more. I’m just too tired rn. Track 4 - I love the music. It’s real music. I feel like modern music just doesn’t have the same artistic flair. Track 5 - oof this lyrics hit close to home. (See what I did there). It’s relatively simple, but still beautiful. It feels intentional. Not telling a story, conveying feelings. Repetition does this too Track 6 - Interesting, Oce had picked up again. I like the guitar in this. Immensely so. Final thoughts - definitely really enjoyed the sound, lyrics were interesting, made me want to re-listen already and take notes. 7.8/10

This album is a mixture of the sublime bass and guitar, and much of the composition, mixed with the bizarre and discordant sounds; i.e., this is a Smiths album. This album more than most Smiths album the musicians are let loose and you can sit back and enjoy it. Barbarism Begins at Home has such a strong beginning and almost every song has an instrument-focused interlude where the bass and/or Marr on guitar take you on a bit of a winding journey. However. The elephant in the room is old Morrissey and his role in all this. I have a love hate relationship with old Mozza. This isn’t one of his better albums as a lot of what you get is the whining/crooning vocalisations and the wordplay is missing. He almost becomes the backing instrument. It couldn’t be further from The Queen Is Dead that came a year later. Probably the most balanced song is Well I Wonder and you get the best of everything. Then on the flip side there is the title track, which has the archetypal Morrissey moral grandstanding with animal noises thrown in. Mostly on the strength of the instrumental aspects and a nod to the elements where it does get things right giving this a 4.

Fantastic album of contradictions and absrudity. The Smiths dont follow the norms and in a way shouldnt work. I dont really know anything about the band members but their brilliance is less so about them individually but about how well the concept is literally strung together. They must simply have an coherent artistic vision as it just works (Creates a warm space for the top lyrics). The record is wonderfully volatile, often pivoting into unexpected "micro-places" with a left-field energy. This morphing nature is clearest in tracks like "Barbarism Begins at Home," which features a repetitive, almost absurd rhythmic loop and those odd, barking sounds (who let the dogs out vibe)! Yet, the entire track is so impeccably well-crafted that its strangeness is not just forgiven, but celebrated as a key part of the genius. Unpredictability and emotional depth make this a rewarding, challenging and fun listen.

It hurts my elder emo heart to say it but this is The Smiths’ only good album. I wish Morrissey wasn’t such a piece of shit so I could enjoy it more.

The singer’s voice is a vibe. Every song sounds the same and he sounds like he’s falling asleep on every track, but I still liked it and would listen again.

3.5

A pretty strong Smiths album, studio-wise prolly their second best and with really iconic artwork even though on the subject of helmet Morrissey is the biggest one by far. There are some magnificently maudlin highs to be found on The Headmaster Ritual, That Joke Isn’t Funny Anymore and the totes funkerific Barbarism Begins At Home and it gets even more sublime if you include How Soon Is Now? It’s really thanks to the mad skillz of Marr and Rourke that these tracks are as intensely brilliant as they are. There is also one almightily shitastic low with the closing handwringing or should that be hoof-wringing title track and that is all thanks to Morrissey. About tuck into a succulent flat iron steak at a nice steakhouse as I’m writing this and will be festively slicing into some turkey once I get home even though it’s not quite the season yet and I’ll be be making an online order for as many lamb cutlets and chicken wings as I can. Might go out shooting for some deer and stamp on some snails as well.

The Smiths are one of those bands that are so universal, I thought I knew them. I did not, but I really enjoyed listening to this album. Some highlights for me were definitely: - Nowhere Fast - That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore - The general vibe It piqued my interest enough that I may just go into their other albums and see if they're someone I'd slip into the rotation. Hell yeah

i actually liked this one... the songs sound good and the vibes are on point. the biggest blemish on the record is the downer of a title track that you have to slog through to finish the album. morrissey is nothing if not incendiary and heavy-handed in his messaging, but it doesn't exactly get the party started. favorites: the headmaster ritual, nowhere fast, well i wonder, barbarism begins at home

My first The Smiths album, and also my first contact with this band, as I don't think I've ever heard any song from them, and my expectations where kind of mixed when listening to this for the first time. On one hand, this band has a legendary status, and I was very curious to know why. On the other hand, I wasn't sure if I would like it considering Morrissey's opinions and controversies, that have keeping me away from his music. So, what was the conclusion? I liked it! (as anyone could see from the given score). I have to say, the thing that scared me the most was the one that I liked the best. Morrissey's voice is very smooth and pleasent to listen to, and his lyrics can be very touching and emotional, treating subjects of abuse ('The Headmaster Ritual') or depression ('That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore'). There's also the song 'Meat Is Murder', which talks about how any killing of animals is considered murder. Even though I don't totally agree with the message (I support vegetarianism and veganism, but I believe it is a natural thing to kill for food), the song may be one of the saddest in terms of how it sounds. When talking about the instrumentation, it is very vibrant, wonderful and very well produced (yeah, I don't really have much to say, as I was focused on the lyrics..) In conclusion, a very sad and great experience.

Strong song writing produces a very distinct; polished and modern sound. Really admire the resulting new wave record that flows very well. Great song quality throughout. Not one track i would skip. It misses the one lp defining hit single tho for me.

The Smiths sound is so tight,Johnny Marr's guitar and the rest of the crew but Morrisey's vocals could be better but then again this was their second studio album and in 85 ',punkish vocals gave you a sort of freedom to express more,sometimes in purpose (production shoutout) and i wish this was the case here. So, listening carefully I loved the following songs more: The Headmaster Ritual has a lot of ooh lalalalalala iey in it but it's FIRE, Nowhere Fast has an aligory,i mean the song is full of energy but the lyrics are sad almost suicidal and at the end that worked for me weirdly enough, (i had to listen to this twice to appreciate it but i think it worth it), Well I Wonder has a more dreamy feel with beautiful guitar,bass and drums,very melodic and even Morrissey's vocals really works here adding to the atmosphere,bliss,my favourite,ON REPEAT, That Joke isn't Funny Anymore is a dark,pessimistic song and i liked it for that,maybe too much,definately one of my favourites.ON REPEAT too, Barbarism Starts at Home has that fantastic funky disco rhythm and bass/guitar but it could have been half it's time(6:50!) but on second thought it probably was an attempt to those long extended disco funk numbers so it could maybe be played by djs in clubs but definately not in the radio stations. *I want the one I can't have could be a favourite but the vocals ruined this one for me, *RusholmeRuffians was my least favourite,it bored me to death, *Meat is Murder is a heavy requiem that adds to the concept and is the inspiration on this album and i find creative the cow sampling, i get it,i'm an animal lover myself but i won't go there,to the Vegetarian talk, this was too much for me. So with that said it's a 4/5 to me.

I think this time period is obviously the peak of the band, but I've never heard this one in full. I'm not sure I really need to explain why the Smiths are good, but you notice more and more how great the bass is as well as the guitars. Johnny Marr often imitates a synth on here with his guitar by giving it some attack, which is genius. The reverbs on here are also quite good, maybe a bit too much, but its the 80s what can you do? I love the somewhat disco inspiration on Barbarism begins at home, but it feels incredibly melodic with all the guitar layers. I've also always liked the subtle inclusion of pianos and keyboards on the earlier stuff, whereas later they got bit less subtle, which I guess is good too. This is probably better than the last album but a little worse than all the others. Meat IS murder. Favourite songs: all but Rusholme Ruffians. Overall around 8/10

Great in the 80s. Original. A bit dated for me now, though

Jeff Buckley once said, the 80s were bullshit apart from The Smiths. This isn’t their best album but it’s still better than most of what was around at the time and the most relatable band for a working class Brit until Pulp arrived years later. That Joke isn’t funny any more is the strongest track here. Bass line on Barbarism is outstanding. Animal noises on Meat is Murder less so.

Definitely not my favorite Smiths album, but it’s still got some bangers.

My least favorite Smiths LP. They can’t all be 5’s… right? (4.5)

Not my favorite Smiths album, but still a solid album.

very exotic, relaxing

Se utiliza mucho el término "influyente" para definir discos, lo cual es estúpido porque los discos son buenos o malos, pero nadie compone "influyentemente". Sin embargo, a la larga, un disco puede terminar siendo influyente y este lo es. Y además de eso es un excelente disco con un sonido muy propio y unas canciones ejecutadas con gran talento.

Skiffle, but make it jangly

I unfortunately listened to this while eating a burger. Sorry heifer I do believe you were a beautiful creature.

Like the music! The little jam sessions at the end of some things is nice. The last song is so preachy and corny though lol. The cows mooing is really something lol. Not going to lie, didnt read too much of the other lyrics but hopefully not as preachy as that. Good thing its the last song so i can skip it. Other than that, the rest of the music is pretty good! Oddly not as political as i thought it would be, just very angsty lol. But honestly the music just really carries, pretty pulsating and good guitar work. 4/5 stars. 25/9/2025

Dont have much to say I liked it enough I guess. Keeping it the same rating as last time.

This one is a bit strange as far as Smiths albums go. There isn't any standout songs when compared to the rest of their catalogue, but the album just works start to finish. More a vibe album perhaps. 4/5

Basically every Smiths song sounds the same to me. No one song is bad but nothing is exciting. This is put on in the background of a mundane task and zone out music. You typically will not be surprised while listening to a Smiths song. Barbarism begins at home's bassline is solid and makes the song enjoyable. 7.78/10 I'd give it a 3.5/5

I suppose anytime a group has internal friction it's hard not to take sides, wch is what a lot of the reviews seem to do. But however you may feel about each individually, you can't really separate them musically -- and that can energize the music with a fruitful tension, or in the case of The Smiths, emotional contrast. Marr's energetic, often bright or effervescent guitar wants to be pop punk, but Morrissey wants to be a subculture troubadour, and together they stretch the canvas of each song across a broader range of emotion than they could if they were more in sync. For me, it's compelling and interesting even when a song doesn't quite take form, making them unavoidable regardless of how you feel about them.

I didn’t know it was possible to really like a band and their music while finding the lead singer “meh,” but not being so utterly distracting to take away from the music. This is the first Smiths album I’ve really engaged with fully and I found Johnny Marr’s guitar playing is what kept me engaged for the whole album. I can hear early REM even.

The Smiths have an unmistakable recognizability. I had never listened to a whole album. The intensity is high and the lyrics deserve listening to. So: not for all occasions. But upbeat, with lots of variation and smart. Definitely worth listening to, now and then.

4/7

Eh.

Pretty good.

Fucking good shit. He’s got a great voice and a lovely way with words. Just a good sound all round. Simpsons: Yes

What she said is my favorite song by the Smiths! Finally an album I actually like a lot!

An album with really high points, arguably The Smiths' highest (The Headmaster Ritual, That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore, Well I Wonder, Barbarism Begins at Home) held back slightly by a couple of duds (Rusholme Ruffians, the ending title track which is especially bad etc.) Marr's guitar work shines here - alternate tunings, jangly riffs, interesting use of the delay pedal on How Soon Is Now (unfortunately not featured on all releases, only US release IIRC), the acoustic guitar on That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore. It's not quite as good as The Queen is Dead, but it's pretty damn close!

The Smiths are so weird because Johnny Marr's music is incredible and it feels so intentional while it feels like Morrissey is making up the words as he goes along.

Starts and ends strong ('Barbarism begins at home' is an awesome jam). But the rest is a bit samey, struggled to pay attention during or remember afterwards. Sometimes these type of songs grow on me, like Dear Science, which I gave a 3 and would now consider a 5. So this might be a 5 ("good enough to download for my library"), but for now I can only give it a 4 ("played again at least once for pleasure").

Not my favourite album by the smiths but def solid

I really don't want to like The Smiths, 'cause Morrissey... you know, but I keep enjoying their music, sadly. This was a decent listen.

This one was pretty high energy. I feel like it got better near the end. Solid listen!

Though not up to the level of "The Queen is Dead," this is a very good album. It starts out great with "The Headmaster Ritual" and Johnny Marr and company are in great form throughout. I will say that Morrissey is pretty insufferable on this one and the song "Meat is Murder" is not a convincing argument for vegetarianism and, in the words of the critic Robert Christgau, "begs for a belt in the chops." But, otherwise, a very good Smiths album.

Solid album, doesn’t quite reach the heights of The Queen Is Dead, but still very good

I have rewritten this about 12 times. I love The Smiths, they're THE band of my childhood (explains a lot), and they'll always make me think of my dad (and the fact he still has This Charming Man as his ringtone, and has for over 10 years). Morrissey himself is making this album difficult to review, he's a big prick and unlikeable to his core, but alas we will continue. In Meat is Murder, The Smiths continue their important work of making existential despair and dread sound like a picnic on a sunny day (If that picnic featured an hour long guilt trip by a man who sounds like a sad Victorian ghost). Johnny Marr’s guitar playing is still the sonic equivalent of a perfectly cold pint, bright, smooth, and just enough bite to keep you awake. He layers arpeggios and harmonics so effortlessly that you start wondering if he even knows what a power chord is. (Spoiler, he does. He’s just morally opposed to them). The rhythm section—Mike Joyce and Andy Rourke—are the real unsung heroes here. Joyce’s drumming is tight but unshowy, like he’s trying not to interrupt Morrissey’s monologue about the horrors of a Sunday roast. Rourke’s bass playing is a masterclass in melodic counterpoint; he could probably play Bach if you handed him a Fender Precision and a pint. I love this album with my whole heart, regardless of the underlying guilt I feel for enjoying a medium rare steak. 4.8/5 (0.2 points because Moz is a wanker) - HF xo People have been separating music from the artist for years. James Brown's live album is one of my all time faves and he was not a good person (he don't make love good - he hit that lady). Bowie's racism inspired to the Clash-championed 'Rock Against Racism' in the late 70s. Gary Glitter had that one good instrumental tune. The Smiths are fine. What I've always loved about The Smiths is that in an era where you had to crawl through absolute simple-minded synth fuelled dirt to get to a decent tune, they never swayed from their formula. They stuck to it and used it to pump out consistently good music. Meat is Murder opens in a reassuring fashion for fans of the eponymous debut - sweet flowing guitar riff and Morrissey making weird Morrissey noises. They continue into something that at the time was probably very image-evoking for the teens - a trip to the fair. It was the 80s equivalent of the Streets writing about a fucking minging house party you come out of stinking of tabs and horror. A proper nice painting of nice lil' England (which was actually mostly a shithole at the time as there weren't any jobs for anyone). Morrissey's diary entries then take over the next few songs where he gets a bit sad - something which he never quite gets over and starts to blame everyone but him for (class man am I right Francey). The record peaks with 'Well I Wonder' which is a simple and beautiful piece of music. There aren't really any duds on this record, but to most modern Smiths fans they'd probably look at the track listing of Meat is Murder wondering where all the big hitters are. This is just an all-round good record. And I'm more of an LP guy than a singles guy. So, er... 4/5 JF Booted this album on this morning as I was making my breakfast (bacon sandwich, didn’t feel bad about it) and fair to say the opening track really sets up the rest of this album for a really good time. Morrisey generally likes to be sad about stupid things and blame it on normal people and if you don’t fuck with that then you’re probably not gonna fuck with the smiths, let alone this album. I will continue to calve the calf and eat the fuck out of it, and not out is spite of this album, but because it’s fucking lush with peppercorn sauce tomatoes and potatoes. Oh yeah and the music is good 👍 3.8/5

Has a groove to it. Something I would describe like "nerd rock." Rusholme has a catchy jangle. Barbarism begins at Home is a solid track. I've heard other Morrissey stuff and didn't love it, but this album is pretty good. The whole vibe kind of comes together here. Also, I dig the base player. 4/5

Quanto mais velha sou, mais gosto e mais de identifico com as músicas dos The Smiths. Não conhecia bem as músicas deste álbum, mas existindo o The Queen is Dead, é impossível dar mais do que isto!

A divisive album for me with some of their best ever songs in Barbarism, Headmaster ritual, what she said and that joke isn’t funny. The final song is horrendous in every way. Couldn’t be the five that the Queen is Dead gets, but the highlights are exceptional

meat is murder thanks the smiths

Это хорошо!

Not my favorite Smiths album, but it’s still a smiths album so I don’t dislike it. The title track is my favorite

I mean yeah this is right up my alley. 4.2

Never actually listened to a smiths album before. It was good but that last song was straight to the point, wasn’t it? I’d listen to more of The Smiths.

Must admit that I am of the yay Johnny Marr boo Morrissey persuasion. Except that the whole thing just works, doesn't it? In 1980-whatever, I made fun of this record, but old me is somewhat less dumb, thank goodness.

The combination of the smooth sound and the critical, harsh lyrics is sublime.

Me encantannnnnnn! El final de la canción Barberism… genial

Other than The Queen is Dead, I generally think of the Smiths as a singles band. I’ve come around to this album though, despite the OTT title track. At least four excellent tracks here.

Snelle inhaal review #9: Not as bad als sommige fans van the Smiths het soms laten lijken, ietwat corny van tijd tot tijd, maar dat is een beetje de charme van The Smiths ook. Echter; 'I Cannot Fucking Wait Until Morrissey Dies'

I like it, very classical the Smiths sounding. Some songs has manager to make their way into my heart

own

"I said I love the smiths!" But, I have not listened to this album until now. I gotta say, I love this album!

One of the best bands ever, even this album which I guess is my least favorite of theirs is still a 4

7 / 10 - Not the best smiths album, however there are some great tracks on there

Should be 5 stars but taking off at least a star for the title track. Yes Morrissey is a helmet but they're still one of the great bands.

Would've been a five if I didn't genuinely hate the title track

3,5/5

My favourite Smiths album. So many varied styles and the heart wrenching title track

Not my favorite Smiths record, but still very solid.

The sounds of my youth. Great album.

Pretty good.

Some is amazing. A couple of duds.

Barbarism begins at home - That bassline tho

I think I’m starting to like the Smiths.

Morrissey is problematic but I love the sound.

we get it morrissey noone likes you

I hate the vocals, but the songs and the messages are good. Specifically the guitar was fenominal, not somethingi would expect from the smiths Hard 4

Love the smiths

It was a choice between this and a Morrissey solo album. I believe I made a wise choice.

It's been a while since I last listened to this, but what struck me most are the baselines in this. When you combine them with the general arrangements and Morrissey's vocals and lyrics, it's a truly great experience. Highlights for me are Barbarism Begins at Home, That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore and The Headmaster Ritual.

Yessir I’m vegetarian

я думал альбом про войну а оказался про веганство

Not my favorite Smiths album but definitely close. Barbarism Begins at Home and Well I Wonder are my faves. Album cover is also burned into my brain.

6/20/25. Great album! Really enjoyed that each song feels different from each other, but you know it's the same band. Also feel like this album inspired many later bands that I grew up on. Will have to listen a few more times.

Good!

What’s vegetable then?

Kinda like the smiths turns out, solid album

4/5

Heard 10+ times. not as sexy as ST, not as depressed as queen is dead - just whiny. but god is headmaster’s ritual good. 8/10.

good shit

Good smiths album Barbarism Begins at Home, That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore and Headmaster Ritual are some of their best songs.

Cute, 7/10

Better than Coldplay

Solid smiths album.

Typical smiths sound, which I enjoy

oh morrissey the old complainer that you are

Good, about what I expected

how do I explain that I love this album despite hating morriessy despite being a vegetarian

1001 ALBUMS YOU MUST HEAR BEFORE YOU DIE #3 The Smiths are another one of those bands that I've heard great things about, though I never listened to them, because of the 1001 Albums list I finally have a good reason to listen to them. I came in completely blind, I didn't even know the genre, but it held up. "Meat Is Murder" is in short, amazing. I thought Morrissey's voice was beautiful throughout the record, and the rest of the band's performance was great. Take the opener for example, "The Headmaster Ritual". It sets the tone for the record perfectly, and I loved the acoustic guitars on "Rusholme Ruffians". I thought the slower nature of "Well I Wonder" was outstanding, and the bass work on "Barbarism Begins at Home" is amazing, it's so catchy and funky. Overall, I only thing I disliked is that it was too short, but other than that, "Meat Is Murder" is a true gem from the 1980s, and I definitely will be coming back for more. Overall Score: 95 / 100 Favorite Tracks: The Headmaster Ritual, I Want the One I Can't Have, Well I Wonder, Barbarism Begins at Home, Meat Is Murder

Good. Classic smiths

I forgot how pretty and emotionally devastating the Smiths/Morrissey could be. But it can get a bit too much - especially with the "Meat is Murder" track - I suppose it's effective. I also didn't realize how amazing the guitar/bass work is here. 3.5 rounded up.

The smiths are always really good. Morissey's approach to vocals is dope. The instrumentation is totally distinctively them. Unfortunately, this album sounds a lot like less memorable versions of their other (better) stuff imo. So it's a 4.

this was a whole lot of fun, although to be honest I was a bit confused by the last song on the album (albeit the titular song)

I know Morrissey sucks but I love the Smiths. While I could do without the sanctimonious title track, I still loved this album.

It's quintessential The Smiths: upbeat, quirky pop instrumentals behind poetic ornery storytelling. It's an unbeatable combo. The bass on this really shines, especially in deeper cuts like Rusholme Ruffians but really all across the record. And it's got one of my favorites - This Joke Isn't Funny Anymore, which is the band firing on all cylinders and the archetypical Smiths track for me.

“Belligerent ghouls run Manchester schools. Spineless slimes; cemented minds.” It really is unfair that such talent for lyricism falls to Stephen Morrissey. This album, Meat is Murder, is just as interesting, bold, obnoxious, and tightly arranged as anything the Smiths have ever done. It’s not my personal favourite, but aside from the asinine title track the band don’t really put a foot wrong here. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Omg 4.5

Kings of English mope produce another stellar trudge through black ash and wet sand. Holidays on the beach! There is no misery like English misery: cultivated, harvested and shared in bounty with the world. Fuck Morissey, but the man knows his milieu.

Love The Smiths but Morrissey himself.

The Smiths worst album they went a solid 6/9 Also I’m a carnivore so I don’t agree with his takes 1) Nowhere Fast 2) I Want the One I Can’t Have 3) What She Said

This is a difficult one to rate. Musically great, Lyrically excellent. Vocally...meh, but Morrissey is such a complete arse. The title track is a low effort polemic, and should be skipped. Overall 3.5-to-4.

I didn’t get to dive into the lyrics as much as I’d like. But great album. I did listen to all of it.

Fav: Barbarism Begins at Home Notes: Probably my least favorite Smiths album but still pretty, pretty good.

Pretty nice tunes

-Need to listen to more by The Smiths -Solid vocals and guitar riffs -Good mix of electric and acoustic -Best Songs: Headmaster's Ritual, What She Said, Well I Wonder -Worst Songs: Rusholme Ruffians, That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore -Overall Rating: 8.2/10

I have to admit this is pretty solid. I still don’t love his voice, but this holds together well.

I've never been a fan, but I love the sounds of the Smiths album. There's something subtle, crystal-clear that engages me so much. And the vocals are great too, with some kind of storyteller feeling to it. I really like the band and will try to get deeper into them.

The Smiths are the perfect amount of British. Good band. 4 stars.

Much, much better album than Queen is Dead. I have never seen such a discrepancy between records of one band in my short career on this website. I really liked the style here, melodies and riffs were really catchy, even vocalist did a good and fitting job for this album. I'll come back to this record, for sure.

Favorite track: headmasters ritual. Overall score: 7.6/10

An opinion everyone has but is afraid to tell - Morrissey's repetitive and monotonous singing pattern is what has always stopped the Smiths from being in the same league as The Cure. As with other Smiths' records, Johnny Marr, Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce are the driving, hit-making forces behind this record, with their catchy riffs, playful basslines, and funky rhythms.

the smiths goated

This is #day264 of my #1001albumsyoumusthearbeforeyoudie challenge, and… this is my third and final The Smiths album. I thought I'd go the same route and give this a perfect score. But something about this record doesn't flow as well as The Queen Is Dead and Strangeways, Here We Come. I appreciate the instrumentation (extended intro/outros and funk influences) and the lyricism (especially the themes), but as an album, Meat Is Murder is somewhat uneven. I don't get the decision to leave "How Soon Is Now?" off the tracklist. This is one of the band's most defining moments, and it's just not there. Still, my highlights are "The Headmaster Ritual," "Well I Wonder" (probably a top-10 Smiths song for me), "Barbarism Begins At Home," and, of course, the title track. This is a 4 out of 5. Here's to Morrissey's solo albums. Looking forward to #day265.

Not as good as the Queen is dead. Hard to listen to since morrissey became a huge racist

Morissey et al. were simply unstoppable in their few years of existence. The fact that this album, arguably far less 'essential' than Hatful of Hollow and The Queen is Dead due to its far lower concentration of hits/undeniable classics, is still as unique and enjoyable as it is, stands testament to that claim.

It’s just good Johnny Marr balances out Morrissey

Really enjoyed listening to it better than I thought it would be.

Better than I remembered.

One star off for trying to nag at me about eating delicious meat.

meat is murder by the smiths was a great album 8/10 due to not all the songs not being consistent it talks about about life

Solid album. Enjoyed and will probably re-listen again

Great album, but morrisey is a wanker!

Enjoyed listening to this album for the first time! Will have to check out their music more!

came into this project as a smiths hater - coming out of it as a smiths yeahtheyreprettydanggood-er that is progress

The atmospheric sound on some of these songs mixes well with the rockabilly quality on others. The Smiths are a band that no other band can quite sound like.

I love The Smiths.

Classic Smiths.

Was Morrissey the first Emo? He certainly wasn’t a Goth…

Ate a chicken sandwich while listening and felt bad

Meat Is Murder finds The Smiths at a crossroads, caught between their scrappy debut and the polished brilliance that would define their later work. Johnny Marr’s guitar work is as inventive as ever, with intricate riffs that could make you rethink your entire relationship with the instrument. Morrissey, meanwhile, delivers his signature, often polarising vocals with a mix of vulnerability and biting wit, but his political diatribes sometimes feel a little too preachy for their own good. It’s clear the album is striving for something bigger, but the production, with its thin drums and heavy reverb, occasionally drags it down, making it feel stuck in a bygone era. Still, Meat Is Murder stands as a vital, if imperfect, step in The Smiths' evolution. While it doesn’t quite reach the emotional depth or polish of their later work, tracks like "The Headmaster Ritual" and “Barbarism Begins at Home” prove the band’s ability to innovate within their confines. The album’s thematic ambition is commendable, but its sonic limitations leave it feeling less timeless than the rest of the band’s catalogue. it’s still a must-listen for anyone wanting to understand where The Smiths were headed and a reminder that even legends have their rough drafts.

Sounds like The Smiths, but just not quite as many bangers as the previous album I had of theirs.

Really good, was great to listen to at work.

I first heard a Smiths' song when Radiohead covered the Headmaster's Ritual- and so this is the first album I looked for, and it remains my favorite of the four Smiths albums (though some of the singles might eclipse any of the material here). It's a great record- Barbarism begins at home is a bit overlong, and from the first 8 tracks that's the only bad thing I can muster. Most of the album is so great in fact that the lumbering, preachy, joyless, maudlin album closing vegan dirge that somehow became the stupid title of the record- not even that colossal piece of shit can stain the rest of the record. it does take a star off though. I mean, fuck industrial capitilist farming for it's cruelty to animals and it's degridation of all our food quality as well. but vegans can bite it too; nature is cruel, I don't care for it myself, but all of natural slection is red in tooth and claw. Have as many cries about it as you like, the universe is stubbornly indifferent.

Great smiths record. The bass playing is at its best and headmasters ritual remains goated

So glad I gave this a chance. I really enjoyed this album. Great guitar tones

No hi ha hits pero hi ha una idea i els hi suma més i tot!

Oh moaning Morrissey. Love this album.

Mid 1980's Brit-rock. Kind of whiny but fun nonetheless

Is Morrissey an insufferable cunt? Absolutely. He is also one of the great lyricists of all time? Absolutely. I don’t even agree with the title track but it’s still beautiful. I Don’t This Joke Funny anymore is a classic. 8.5/19

Johnny Marr is just so amazing

I fuck with the Smiths heavy. Meat is murder is one of the classics and really good.

Bell

I always enjoy the smiths but I don't think this is their best album. Not their worst either

This is a great lyrical record with Morrissey penning some of his best lyrics across this release.

83% Best: The Headmaster Ritual; I Want the One I Can’t Have; Nowhere Fast; Barbarism Begins at Home Must-Hear? Sure

liked songs: The Headmaster Ritual, That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore, Well I Wonder Very good. Not my favorite Smiths album, but still good. 3.75

Although "The Headmaster Ritual" was my introduction to The Smiths, I had been wary towards the Meat Is Murder album for the longest time. For me, it was The Smiths's weakest work. It lacked the warmth and poppiness of their debut, the prominence of "The Queen Is Dead," and the melancholy beauty of "Strangeways, Here We Come." In addition, the album ends on a dreadful note with Morrissey guilt-tripping the listener into veganism while sad animal noises backed his wooing (I still hate that song.) Recently, I have decided to give Meat Is Murder a second chance, mainly because I have exhausted The Smiths's discography. I will admit that I was wrongfully judgmental to the album: The album begins with "The Headmaster Ritual," a satirical song deprecating the British education system. It is cleverly witty and relatable to all those who are victims of oppression. The beginning segment of "Rusholme Ruffians" eerily reminds me of My Chemical Romance's "Mama.." Perhaps they drew inspiration from The Smiths for their album The Black Parade? The whole album has great narration but "..Ruffians" is particularly remarkable. "I Want The One I Can't Have" is my favourite Smiths song because I do indeed want the one I can't have. It is perhaps the most distressing Smiths song. In addition to being melodious and poppy, I can 𝘧𝘦𝘦𝘭 Morrissey's desperation on a spiritual level as he cries "If you ever need self-validation, just meet me in the alley by the railway station!" His sexual frustration is astronomical: The theme of sexuality is explored later on in his solo work. For most of my time as a Smiths fan, I discarded the following songs. However, "The Joke Isn't Funny Anymore" and "Well I Wonder" are too devastatingly beautiful songs. The latter poses a question most people will ask in their lifetime: Do you hear me when you sleep? The inquiry is followed by the silent plea: "Please keep me in mind." By now, I have gone through all five stages of grief. Then of course, there's the song "Barbarianism Begins At Home," which is about abuse. It is upbeat but furious: A fantastic song, albeit Morrissey's "barking," which is unapologetically cringe. I cannot see myself listening to "Barbarianism.." on a regular basis though. Most—if not all—the album is too dark for my liking, especially "Meat Is Murder," which is almost sickening to listen to. Nonetheless, Meat Is Murder is still a great album: Definitely darker than its predecessor, as it is filled to the brim will raw anguish and quiet desperation. The album is a true work of art.

Gud

The Smiths - Meat Is Murder First album that I hear from them and not gonna lie, it's really catchy to listen to. Considering with the political themes and messages that The Smiths were portraying with this album really makes it all the more impactful. Overall, this is really good! 1.- The Headmaster Ritual = 10/10 2.- Rusholme Ruffians = 8/10 3.- I Want the One I Can't Have = 9/10 4.- What She Said = 8/10 5.- The Joke Isn't Funny Anymore = 8/10 6.- Nowhere Fast = 7/10 7.- Well I Wonder = 8/10 8.- Barbarism Begins at Home = 8/10 9.- Meat Is Murder = 9/10 FINAL SCORE: 8.3/10

It’s The Smiths! Not my favorite record from them but this is a 9/10 either way. Beautiful, and never overstays its welcome.

++: The Headmaster Ritual, Rusholme Ruffians, What She Said, That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore, Barbarism Begins at Home +: I Want the One I Can't Have +-: Nowhere Fast, Well I Wonder -: Meat Is Murder 7,9/10

Nice album. I like Morrissey and The Smiths, they’re interesting and their music more so. The songs are deep and creative, they have intent. Although, listening to this album, one must wonder: Are they vegetarian?

Nice one.

I had a really funny roadtrip with a friend where he pretended to be the singer of the Smiths, it was hilarious, now I can't unhear him anymore 😄

The first half was so good and then the second half just didn’t have the same quality

fun

17/1001 While some would have it The Smiths' debut is the bee's knees, I think this is a more mature, more refined effort. It may not be as radio-friendly as its predecessor, but every track here sees Marr in particular expanding his arsenal. Ok, it's been said numerous times, but the title track is an absolute dirge (does a traumatic subject necessarily require a traumatic experience for the listener?) so let's get that out of the way. The remaining eight tracks, however, are all top drawer with only Rusholme Ruffians perhaps becoming a tad tiresome on repeated listens. That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore may be the band's most subtly brilliant recording up to this point, while the jigsaw puzzle of open-tuning shimmer that is The Headmaster Ritual and the straight funk of Barbarism Begins At Home represent a conscious effort to avoid being pigeonholed. Would be a five, if not for the title track, but still a truly great album.

Mjög góð plata. Ekki þeirra besta. Morrissey er samt weirdo.

Slakasta Smiths platan finnst mér, en hinar eru auðvitað bara svo góðar. Nokkur góð lög, en í heild finnst mér þetta bara la la. Titillinn líka alltaf farið í taugarnar á mér, tilgerðarlegur. 3,5

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