Reviews (page 5 of 15)
I see the talent, but it’s just not for me. Also this many songs shows a lack of prioritization
An iconic album from the 90’s that has one of the very best songs produced that decade (1979 - IMO the best Pumpkins song by a mile). It’s cover art has always particularly stood out to me, like you can’t have album art like that on a record that isn’t super important. Like many have pointed out, it’s a chore to work through this album, as it is for any 2 hour album or any quality. I’ve long been of the opinion that Corgan and the Pumpkins were at their when they stripped things back, à la 1979, though that’s too few and far between. Tonight, Tonight is brilliant, as is Bullet With Butterfly wings, and there’s a ton of good songs throughout the record. As a cohesive project, I think it would vault quickly into masterpiece territory if it was ~50% shorter. Perfect double albums are hard to pull off, especially with CDs allowing more data and enabling a 2 hour album length. I listen to a lot of records and 2 hours is tough to digest no matter how many listens. Still, it’s a fantastic record, even if it feels like the length feels forced at times.
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I listened to it in depth. While it has some great songs, there is a lot to be desired on a few of the tracks. Overall, very good but not great,
Ambitious as hell. At times, perfect. Other times, it can be frustrating because (for instance) there feel like 3 or 4 album closers that the Pumpkins just couldn't pick between. But it's never poorly produced. For me, it doesn't quite stick its landing across both volumes. But there are enough moments of literal genius (especially for the time in which it was produced) to outweigh the more exhausting experimental songs. The variety is wild, from symphony to grunge to raw to polished. I'm not sure I'll ever have the patience to try to figure out the narrative across all of these songs, but it's an experience I'm grateful for.
Sone great tracks
Only listened to half but I wanna go back and finish it. Liked this one better than the last Pumpkins album we had, and it grew on me song by song.
Unless you were a grunge fan outside of Nirvana in the 90s, this album probably should be bypassed. For me, nostalgia makes me give it 4 *.
[4/5] alt rock grunge. wish it was one disc or a bit less than two hours, as i enjoyed the first disc a lot more. disc two feels like whiplash and promises to wind down before doing so. i luckily got used to the nasal voice. my favourite song was bullet with butterfly wings. 3.5 // rounded up for disc 1. track notes: [1] 1. minimal intro with melody tasting of what is to come 2. scratches my brain a lot, but struggling to think what it reminds me of. disarm, age of innocence, blink 182, ocean avenue. the strings are outstanding 3. driving the monster truck in simpsons hit and run 4. gallagher pronunciation of “she’s” 5. guitar so good i wanna learn 6. so this is where neil cicierega got that song from! biblical test with rats 7. working through it 8. raging voice destroyer 9. when he says “love” it’s like the “hello” in smells like teen spirit 10. harp! 11. nice gentle build-up, slowing things down 12. acquired the forbidden knowledge. his knowledge of meaning is the greatest counter to sartre 13. starts out like i’m waking up on a nice beach 14. suitable for a soppy bedtime [2] 15. tongue punching with bombs 16. grunge 17. a bit of a meander 18. yearning and deceit 19. we are so back, but annoyingly overplayed 20. dutty sound but he is just screaming. really jarring considering the surrounding songs 21. this song is longer than youth 22. slow and tender now 23. nursery rhyme but make it angry and gritty 24. squelchy sound with certified owl moments 25. thought i was listening to halo by beyoncé for a second 26. pov ur snape 27. shared emotional damage 28. wind down into sleepytime
A very long (arguably bloated) experience that was still nonetheless very enjoyable. Favourite track: Tonight, tonight
U can really tell that the Smashing Pumpkins knew what they were doing when creating this album. This album literally embraced everything that happened in music before its release, making it extremely diverse and interesting.
I don't love every song on here and I'd be lying if I said I was fully engaged for the full 2 hours, but man, at its best, this is some of the best rock music of the 90s. 'Tonight, Tonight' and '1979' are generational songs.
un album con un rango muy dinamico, el sonido esta lleno de detalles y es muy definido. un tanto muy largo para mi gusto
Tonight is amazing song
smashing!
If there’s an album that truly captures the spirit of the mid 90s, this one is definitely at the top of the list. So much of the music from that era has worn out its welcome for me I’d happily keep most of it buried. But The Smashing Pumpkins are the exception. Though they’re a quintessential 90s alternative band, they pulled in elements from nearly every facet of the culture back then. They had the grunge edge, hints of shoegaze and dream pop, a dark style that wasn’t quite goth, and even experimented with electronic music that was just beginning to make waves. This album is likely their most diverse, blending all of those elements into a single, cohesive work.
Really enjoyed this. Not a band I've ever listened to before, not sure why.
Nice vibes but did not leave a lasting impression on me.
The singles off this album are incredible. The album is quite a bit longer than necessary. Interesting end to the album where the tone and sound are completely different.
Tremendo álbum. De lo mejor que el rock alternativo logró en los 90s. Quizas la poca variedad de temas y lo largo que es (más de 2 hs.) te hace perder un poco en el medio, pero es un discazo. 9/10
I listened to this a lot as a teenager. I probably realized even back then that there are quite a few filler tracks among the classics, and the album doesn't justify its two-hour runtime. Nowadays, if I listen to anything related to The Smashing Pumpkins, it's James Iha's solo album Let It Come Down.
I was really excited to see this one pop up, its been on my list for a hot minute and I was not disappointed. The start to this album is really nice, slowly building in energy, with both emotional quieter tracks and some angsty punkish rock tracks. As annoying as Billy Corgan's voice is, despite all my rage i am still just a rat in a cage is a great lyric for that chorus. I was really surprised by some of the tracks on side one, notably love, Galapogos and take me down, really beautiful and sensitive instrumentals. I've heard some complaints about the overly dramatised lyrics but tbh I dont really focus on lyrics when I listen, more of an instrumental person so I didn't hate this album. Gonna give this one 7.2/10 and 4 stars, subtracting points for the length, (side 1 was great but 2 was a bit of a drag), and because Billy Corgan is a bit of a stuck up wanker. Update, im halfway through the second disk and im getting sick of it, this is lucky to get away with 4 stars.
Hah. There's probably no album I have more nostalgia for than this one. It made such an impression on my childhood, and for a time, Smashing Pumpkins was my favorite band (despite my access to this album being a ripped version on cassette that didn't have all the songs). With time, I can say that Siamese Dream is their better complete album. But still, this album goes all over the place in the best way. And while it does have a lot of the typical album bloat that I feel most double albums have, there is a TON of their best moments here. But the second disk in particular is not quite as strong, and some of the latter tracks feel more like B-sides that were kept on to make it a double album... which is, again, how I feel about most double albums. But still, I'll always love this album.
i mean it's just the smashing pumpkins
Large and ambitious with some really great songs and not a lot of filler. This is one of the first albums I bought with my own money. I enjoyed it then and I still do now.
Amazing production and musicianship! Proper rock that borders metal while maintaining a nice diverse style balance. One moment it sounds like some progressive balad, other moment Mudvayne-like madness. Voice is sometimes a little annoying
Great album overall, so many great songs that are on my favorites list like 1979, tonight, tonight, and dizzle. I definitely like they're more chill stuff but the harder rock songs are good as well.
Wide range of styles of songs - didn’t know the Smashing Pumpkins could also do soft. Generally enjoyed.
hell a good a bit of me only 4 cuz I don't like all the songs
Thematically pleasing. A few songs stick out as unnecessary and subpar
no estoy acostumbrada a este género, pero me gustó el ritmo, zero fue de mis favoritas
This would be an incredible album if it was roughly a half hour shorter
Never knew I liked alt-rock so much till I listened to this album. All of the instrumentals were great, and the medolies were nice. I just had a great time with this album. But, it did not completely move me for a 5.
This is a lot of album. I was in high school when this was released and I remember it being a big deal with some of these songs being everywhere. But for some reason it just wasn’t for me back then. I am a little jealous of what it must have felt like back then to be a huge fan of Siamese Dream and then a couple years later this album is released with amazing songs. I doubt I’ll ever seek out this album again but I can absolutely see what an achievement it is.
This is where Smashing Pumpkins lost me. There are some great songs on here and there are some kinda fun weird songs that would’ve made good b sides. But it’s so so long! I was getting viscerally angry when there were like 4 songs left. I’ll go four stars because the good is really good.
7/10
4.5/5. It's really great most of the time.
Обожаю эту группу особенно Х.У.U, bullet with butterfly wings, 1979
This is a very good album. Quite long but still enjoyable.
I knew all the big songs on the album but had never listened to any of the rest of it. I give this album a B....it starts off good and even the end songs are good but 28 songs that sound a lot a like is a lot to listen to in one sitting. The album is good but I do not think I will need to revisit it
DNF Vibes, Bullet w butterfly wings Also 1979 & an ode to no one Gooood Loud in a great way, sometimes gets a bit American (??) whiny??
Listenable 'background-music" rock
Alternative Rock Favorite Songs: Tonight, Tonight, Jellybelly, Zero, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, To Forgive, An Ode to No One, Cupid de Locke, Porcelina of the Vast Oceans, Thirty-Three, 1979, We Only Come Out at Night, Farewell and Goodnight Least Favorite Song: Where Boys Fear to Sleep So, confession time: I didn’t really like The Smashing Pumpkins after listening to a few tracks before this album of theirs. I felt like Billy Corgan’s vocals wasn’t my overall thing when I first heard him. He had that whisper-y voice at certain songs, and it felt like he didn’t had enough energy to pack a meaningful punch. And then I was randomly chosen to listen to this album. And my mind had mostly changed. I actually think the album’s great, from the first legitimate song Tonight, Tonight, to Zero, to 1979. There’s a lot to like about this album, and I definitely felt like I was judging the band way too harshly. Now, the only issue for me is how the album is bloated with songs that I didn’t necessarily cared about, but were just either just okay or decent. I felt like we didn’t really need to have two CDs at once and would’ve been fine if it were two separate projects. I did enjoy the first CD over the second, and part of me thinks that I was feeling a little fatigued of listening to two straight hours of the album. Still, this album is going into my personal collection. 8/10.
Wasn't giving enough respect to their game back in the day. It's obviously long but they broke it up into two for a reason.
Good album. I like more melodic tracks like title track and in the arms of sleep.
Хороший альбом, но почему блять двойной и такой нудный я почти умер
Heard before?:❌️/✔️(not entirely) Will listen again?:✔️
enjoyed the piano intro. track 2 is great, definitely one i'll get some mileage out of. up to track 5 now and enjoying everything so far. plus, track 5 is one of the best so far. ohh, track 6 is where that rat in a cage line comes from lol. tracks 10 & 11 are my kind of thing. porcelina is a banggeerrrr ! oh, take me down is lovely as well. this album is really interesting - the varied sounds all balance each other out really nicely. 1979 is obviously a classic. thru the eyes of ruby is great. nearly teared up at the outro of that song, it was so unexpected and beautiful. we only come out at night is great too. now i think that's enough track-by-track lol. overall i really enjoyed this album. i found it really interesting, engaging, and at times unexpectedly soft and pretty. there were some points where i found the vocals grating, e.g. 'in the arms of sleep'... but the vocal and instrumental performances across the album were overall good to great (instrumentally, mostly great). i feel this was a really good album to start with as well, since i'm not overly familiar with rock music in general and this album is so sprawling and touches on a lot of different sounds. 3.9/5
Major achievement for 1990’s
A great album, conceptually large and musically diverse
The Smashing Pumpkins were a band that never really clicked with me, so I'm surprised that it's the 2-hour album that's really showing me their strengths. They cover just about the whole spectrum of alternative rock from the 1990s on here, and they do it really well on just about every song too! Seems like I need to go back and give Siamese Dream another shot...
This is my second time listening front to back and I am again surprised I never had a Smashing Pumpkins phase in my youth. I can't believe how stacked this album is and it very nearly justifies its marathon length. They try so many things it's amazing how many of them land successfully. A pleasure.
This was a staple of my teen years, fantastic album especially for someone with such a grating voice.
Wow, that was a lot. I actually put it off for a few days after I generated it because the idea of listening to something for 2 hours that day wasn't appealing. I remember a few of these songs from when they came out in the mid-90s. I liked it for the most part. There was a lot of heavy metal/grunge, but also some nice ballads and occasional orchestra sounds. I think Mellon Collie could actually be split into 3 separate albums (that could be released different times, not all at once), especially since there are some 7-9+ minute songs. Once I got through "Muzzle" I felt like I would have been completely satisfied if that concluded the record. Don't get me wrong, I liked the rest after that, but I just felt like this was a lot to take in at one time.
thank you for the tunes Ms. Collie. 4/5
I love this album, but will admit the quality of the second disc drops a bit from the first. Ultimately this means it cant be a five but is still a strong four. The singles off this album are insanely good. ‘Bullet..’ is a masterpiece with tracks like ‘tonight tonight’ and ‘1979’ not far behind. This is such an ambitious grandiose affair it has to be on a list like this ❤️
For some reason, Billy Corgan not having a good voice doesn't bother me like it does with other vocalists....go figure. I'm not a huge fan, but this was a very good listen. Another listener said that this didn't sound "too bloated". I think that's an apt description.
I tend to think that I like the Smashing Pumpkins. And then, at some point, I try to listen to this album and there is simply no way. It's just too long. PS: go listen the AA Williams's versión of Porcelina of the Vast Oceans if you haven't.
Overall pretty good, just super long and doesn’t feel the most cohesive. Like there’s some hard rock some soft rock. But overall the songs that are good are so good. My fav song is where boys fear to tread
Just some classic 90 alt rock tracks here, each of which are still great listens. That said, it is completely unnecessary for this album to be 2 hours, and the bloat brings down the score a bit.
All time favorite
It is obviously melodramatic and the lyrics are as bad as the album title. Also, Corgan's voice is truly horrible. Still, there is enough range here to make the bloated run time worthwhile.
It’s one of those defining records of the nineties. Many songs trigger heavy nostalgia. My biggest objection is that two hours of Billy Corgan is a bit demanding. His voice is not easy on the ear
Another example of artist I knew little of but eagerly studied as this record came into my roster. Did you know "smashing" is meant to be an adjective, not a verb? So it's the "excellent" pumpkins. Wow. Bit long, two hours is a lot of music to listen to. Luckily I enjoyed it.
This has some of the highest highs in any of the projects I've listened to this far, I love Thirty-Three so much. But... it's also two hours long and drags in a lot of places, unfortunately. Still, I get the hype and understand why so many people love this
Was not expecting such a heavy sound. Nor was I expecting two bloody hours of album. All the songs kind of blend together in my mind. But it's a nice blend. Like a cream of pumpkin soup. Tonight 200/10. The rest 6/10.
Nice and grungy, Tonight, Tonight is a classic. Like some of the slower songs a lot.
Long time since I listened to this album. A good album to start this journey. Billy Corgan sounds like a squealing pig.
Smashing!
Легчайшая 4ка, альбом понравился и почти без фатига, но всетаки 2 часа это много, иди он около 70-80 минут была бы 5ка, но это кайфовый альбом
Some generational hits here. For as popular as it was (is?), I don't think I had ever actually listened all the way through though. Some nice discoveries, some that will be easier to skip next time through now that I've heard them, but overall, a lot of great music here - even if it's not something that I'll reach for regularly.
The question is really: How much Billy Corgan can you handle in one sitting? Mellon Collie definitely tests that limit. It's a great record obviously and there's not a single bad moment. But it's length doesn't do it justice. And it's a tiny bit frontloaded for me. But will definitely return
This album is great and has so many good songs. There are a few that they could have skipped to make it a perfect album.
URGHHH AAAHH YES PLEASE
I absolutely love The Smashing Pumpkins! This album is great… A little bit too long but it has so many different sounds and so much creativity. Would definitely listen to this again.
Despite being pretty long, there's a lot of variation and I really enjoy Billy Corgan's unique vocals. It's 90s grunge I know and love.
I really enjoyed it!
Could have been a killer album instead of great double album.
My god when I saw it was 2hrs I was like tf. I did have to listen to it in two different sessions. I really liked it though! The album cover is sooo beautiful :D I appreciated both the rock and ballad songs, but I definitely loved the ballads more. There was something very beautiful and melancholic (haha) about the ballads. "Take Me Down" was absolutely gorgeous. I think it is one of my favorite songs of all time now; it hurt to try not to put it on loop, I kept coming back to it. I don't know, it was just very beautiful. Fave songs: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, Tonight, Tonight, Jelly Belly, Zero, To Forgive, Cupid de Locke, Galapgos, Porcelina Of The Vast Oceans, Take Me Down, Where Bous Fear to Tread, Stumbleine, By Starlight, Farewell and Goodnight
A lot of good stuff here and a lot of nostalgia - a bit too long and forced to be a 5 star, but still great!
Great Instrumentation, dramatic and energetic rock music for me
me gustó demasiado pero es excesivamente largo de verdad
If I found this album when I was 16, it would probably be one of my favorites. This album is for the sadboi's sadboi. They lyrics are so fucking good. They're so fire sometimes I forget that I think the lead singer's voice is annoying. And they sprinkled in a little rage too. Can't complain. Only reason this doesn't get a 5 is that it should've been 2 separate albums. Idc. No reason for it to be this damn long. Highlights: Here Is No Why, Thru The Eyes Of Ruby
Really good album. Cant complain when you get two hours of music that isnt filled with crap. Once you get over his voice, the rest works.
Lo tiene todo. 6h de pura magia. Insane que este álbum es del 95. Amé.
Impressive that they managed an album this long while keeping the quality fairly consistent throughout. Big fan of the songs when the strings come in. Favourite tracks: Tonight, Tonight, Zero, Galapagos, 1979
good
Listened to this during a 9 hour road trip, so I didn’t have as many complaints about the length as I may have otherwise. It did get a little bit too repetitive for me by the end, but overall this one was a surprise. Anyone who was at music trivia may know that I am not very familiar with this band as I was unable to identify them by appearance or sound, but this will hopefully be my inspiration to learn more.
The length is always intimidating, but this is a rewarding album to sit down and listen to. So many different textures across each song that it always keeps me entertained. “Tonight, Tonight” is a perfect song.
I had never listened to this entire album, so I’m glad I finally listened to the whole thing. I’ve obviously heard the singles, and I generally enjoy The Smashing Pumpkins, but some of their songs are slower and not my favorites. A double album is daunting, which is probably why I never listened to the whole thing, but this album kept me on my toes. It was a little all over the place, going from a grunge song, to a slower ballad, to a heavy metal song, but I really enjoyed it. The last handful of songs were somewhat forgettable, but it could be that I was worn down from listening to an hour and a half. With that said, this was a very good album.
fuck you. Fuck you. i'm listening to this shit tomorrow i can't be fucking arsed. update: as it turns out i underestimated the distance from NYC to RVA (as wont to do). to quote mr incredible: yeah. i got time. see prior siamese dream review. 10-15 songs: tonight tonight, zero, bullet, to forgive, love (thank god for james iha), cupid de locke (near all timer), porcelina, take me down, in the arms of sleep, 1979, stumbline, we only come out at night, by starlight, farewell and goodnight jellybean + tales of a scorched earth show why keeping the involuntary manslaughter drummer was worth it. galapagos needs a better final chorus. muzzle needs cleanup. where boys + bodies (more oomph) have a really good riff. that's about it. thirty three is dece but i've unfortunately listened to 4 songs like it. eyes of ruby is two minutes too long. xyu is like if you had to cheat writing zero but changed it up so it wasn't too obvious. beautiful + lily just sounds like b sides (the whole second half gets lyrically weaker tbh). 3.7-4.4. this album would be sensational if i'd hadn't listened to 80s u2 before 13.
Lot to unpack here, huge amount of variation and never got boring for a double album. Seems to owe a lot to grunge but has a very unique sound, will listen again
I’ve listened to this album before and liked most of the songs but this time it clicked. The contrast between the more gothic/aggressive and the quieter songs is very unique and well done. Some songs in the album have lead me to discover other genres I would have not otherwise listened to. The vocals are impressive in both diversity and quality. This albums has some very interesting and addictive guitar riffs.
Really liked this album. Not a huge gym music playlist but some good chilling somgs
Surprisingly not all doom and gloom
I love a big, fat double album. Take me on a journey, musicians! This was particularly ambitious and mostly fun. As with a lot of doubles, it's not all great. There's some brilliant songs on here though. All of the singles were 90s classics. It definitely adds up to more than its parts by having so much variety. Great Cover Art.
A heavy experience
In the nineties, I found the rock music of the time a bit alienating. None of the new bands really appealed to me, and none of the new sounds really won me over. But there were, of course, some bright spots, including *Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness* by The Smashing Pumpkins. (t. b. c.)
Great start, drags abit until 1979. No Siamese dream
- I was excited for this and I liked the start but it started getting a little aggressive and giving me anxiety, had to skip a few songs. - i like 'to forgive'. - i like 'cupid de locke' but i have heard it a million times - overall i actually didn't really like the songs i didn't already know at all
Great album
It's too long and there's some content that could've been left behind. The highs are high but the lows are pretty bland. It's 3.5 stars rounded up
Rounding up to a 4. The singles are great and I do like the vibe, however, a double album in the cd era is simply too much. I didn't engage with this record as a teenager and I don't really have the bandwidth to do it as an adult but I can see how a teen with no responsibilities could immerse themselves.
6.3/10
I would give this 5 stars if not for the fact that it’s WAY TOO FUCKING LONG! I had to listen to this one in 4 sessions of 7 songs each to not get bored. I know that there are a lot of great songs here, SO WHY DO I HAVE TO LISTEN TO 5 FILLER TRACKS JUST TO GET TO THEM???!!!
Enjoyable album but there’s some duds on there
Mellon Collie is like a sonic Rorschach test: it'll confirm your ink-blot impressions of Corgan as a whiner, a wanker, a wizard, or late-stage wunderkind. He is, of course, all of those things. But if this record is one thing and one thing only, it's an expression of peak Billy Corgan confidence — and he always had an abundance of confidence. Millions of teenagers can be wrong, but they can also be right. I imagine that a pared-down version of this album would be more my style but I know it would no longer be the infinite sadness that it is. It's also wild to know what we know now, that this *is* the pared-down version as this was also peak productivity for the Pumpkins. This is a record you can leave for stretches and come back to find it's still doing its thing. And while it's not the Smashing Pumpkins record I choose to put on to listen to (I prefer more succinct and raucous indulgences), I'm glad it exists in the way that it does. It got plenty of people I know through some dark times.
Hyggelig og nostalgisk gjenhør, men to timer med Corgans stemme er heftig.
This album came so close to winning me over. I was very skeptical going into it, given the massive runtime, the child-like aesthetic of the cover, and my general dislike of Billy Corgan as a public figure. I ended up enjoying most of it, but there were some definite stumbling points. In particular, the parts where the band strays away from their grunge roots were very hit or miss, and it felt like Corgan's nasally vocals didn't match with the softer moments. Plus, while there weren't any songs that I felt were particularly bad, the two-hour runtime didn't feel justified. That being said, it was hard to deny the sheer ambition of the album and Corgan's complete sincerity with how he handles every aspect of the album. His lyrics can come across as overly melodramatic or pretentious at times, but he delivers it with such conviction and without any irony that it didn't bother me. The heavier moments on this album were when the band really shined, especially the guitar parts and how Corgan's vocals meshed with the instrumentals. This is an album I can certainly see growing on me in the future with repeated listens, especially since my primary issues are fairly surface level, but right now those issues still bother me.
I forgot how great this album was. Memories of grade 11.
I give this album a strong four stars.
A testament to the songs here that this double album never really feels bloated. Corgan's voice is certainly not for everyone, but I think he's always used it effectively - leaning towards something softer in the slower tracks for example.
too much stuff inside
apparently i can't be normal about this band. i got this album and then two days later i got Siamese Dream, and i gave them both 3 stars and now here i am several days later having activated the edit feature just so i can go back and change both to 4s because, as i said, apparently i can't be normal about this band. the thing about the Smashing Pumpkins... is that their entire discography for me seems to be divided into two categories: 1. grunge i don't care about and couldn't hum to you even though i've heard it a million times 2. some of the most gut-wrenching music i've ever heard in my life that makes me stop dead in the street and want to bawl my eyes out. that's it. there is literally no in-between. and so i gave this (and Siamese Dream) 3 stars because at first because they're just NOT albums i can listen to all the way through and large parts of them are not my thing and yet. AND YET. Tonight, Tonight - one of the defining songs of my life (i'm not exagerrating). Cupid De Locke, Galapogos, Thirty-Three, 1979. i got to Today in Siamese Dream and just lost it. i don't know what it is. i don't know what they've laced their songs with. they make me FEEL SO MUCH. it feels weird to give 4s to these two albums but i have to do it.
Certains morceaux bénéficieraient d'un album plus court
So many bangers but its too long.
The favourite album of ex of mine that cruelly dumped me when I was convinced that we'd be together forever. Can howl "Tonight, Tonight" with a passion and fire unlike any other as a result. Also, other songs are available on this album
haha i already listened to this album, actually their entire discog 🤭
I need to listen to this again, even though it’s 2 hours long. At first I was super excited to listen to this because I knew about the band and I love the song “1979". The first side had me feeling disappointed even though I was saving some songs. It was a little too harsh for me. As the album continued I started liking it more and more, with side 2 being vastly superior to side 1 for me. Their sound is really beautiful and the variety of styles on this bumps it from a 3.5 to 4.
Mellon Collie is a wonderful album, and my entry point for this band. I used to be more turned off for what I considered filler on this double-album, and while I still have a playlist to condense this into a solid hour of rock, I enjoy the fill listen more over time.
Honestly could be half the length
Why did they have to release two hoies of music at once? Disc 1 is one of the best collections of alternative rock ever, but after 1979 tones out, there’s not much more to get excited about. X.Y.U. being an extremely honorable exception. Too bad, because the songwriting merit for the first hour is great.
A marathon!
It’s definitely too long, but there are so many beautiful tracks here. A really great mixture of heavy grunge and delicate ballads.
Really long 3.5/5
Monday, Monday: 8/10. this whole album already sounds awesome and it's only the opener! which is why I'm also not giving it a huge grade. Straight Shooter: 7/10. underwhelming compared to the previous one tbh... great potential but not so awesome execution, could've been more explosive Got a Feeling: 7/10. not very relevant I call your name: 8/10. quite a vibe Do you wanna dance: 7/10. not bad, slow but not bad Go where you wanna go: 8/10. catchy again ayeee California dreaming: 9/10. FOR THE MEME VALUE. I HAD NO IDEA IT HAD THIS SONG Spanish Harlem: 7/10. a vibe but it reminds me of church choirs Somebody groovy: Hey girl: 9/10. very nice I also liked the lyrics You baby: 8/10. not bad but not extraordinary to me The in crowd: 7/10. I don't know what I'm listening to anymore all these songs sound a little too similar. It's not bad completely tho
Damn good music. When they get rolling, they ROLL Best Song: Tonight, Tonight Rating: 8/10 Stars: 4
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness - 4/5 Tonight, Tonight - 5/5 Jellybelly - 4/5 Zero - 4.5/5 Here is No Why - 4/5 Bullet With Butterfly Wings - 5/5 To Forgive - 4/5 An Ode to No One - 4/5 Love - 4/5 Cupid de Locke - 4/5 Galapogos - 4.5/5 Muzzle - 4.5/5 Porcelina of the Vast Oceans - 4/5 Take Me Down - 4/5 Where Boys Fear to Tread - 4/5 Bodies - 4.5/5 Thirty-Three - 4.5/5 In the Arms of Sleep - 4/5 1979 - 5/5 Tales of a Scorched Earth - 3/5 Thru the Eyes of Ruby - 3.5/5 Stumbleine - 3.5/5 X.Y.U. - 4/5 We Only Come Out at Night - 3.5/5 Beautiful - 3.5/5 Lily (My One and Only) - 3.5/5 By Starlight - 3.5/5 Farewell and Goodnight - 4/5 I understand this they wanted to do a double album with the amount of leftover material they had on their prior album, but they left a lot of filler on the second disk that really should not be on here. A 2 hour double album is a lot and drags on when the first disk is pretty good and then most of the songs after 1979 were middling at best. The jumps between alternative/grunge to metal-inspired to dream pop songs were a bit jarring at first, but the songs are mostly all good enough to not be immediately put off. OK maybe the jump between 1979 and Tales of a Scorched Earth was extremely jarring but that's besides the point. Maybe a bit too long of an album but the highs are high enough to prop up the filler that should have been left on the cutting room floor. Overall: 4/5 Favorites: Tonight, Tonight, Bullet with Butterfly Wings, 1979
Cuando alguien dice Esmashin, este álbum es el que me viene a la mente. VOy a decir lo mismo que los demas pero porque es cierto: se hace largo y la voz de Bilardo se vuelve tediosa. El resto está bien.
Good album. 2 hours is quite a while for an album though had to listen to it in 2 sittings.
Achei a primeira parte muito boa, não imaginei q esse álbum ia me prender tanto, vou continuar no segundo disco mais tarde.
This album is doubtlessly their high water mark. I was really surprised by the breadth of musical styles that I found while listening. I’m familiar with the singles but hadn’t gone front to back on the album before. The length is a big hurdle to get over and I can see that putting people off from it. Even if I don’t revisit it entirely I don’t want to otherwise discolor a very good 90s rock album. It has at least inspired me to see what else I’ve missed from The Smashing Pumpkins.
I liked this a lot more than I expected. Certainly there’s a few hits here that I knew I’d enjoy, but the album as a whole was pretty well put together. I can only really knock it for the length. I’m not completely against double albums but it’s really gotta be good to bring me back. If 4.5 rounds up to 5, then this was a 4.49. Solid.
I knew all of the singles, of course, but I had never listened to this full album before. I liked it a lot more than I was expecting to, but i'll admit i had to break it up over 2 days.
Surprisingly consistent for a two hour double album. From crunching guitars to hypnotic grooves, Mellon Collie mixes textures and dynamics expertly. Knocking a star off for the crap name
Sure, as many have pointed out, Billy Corgan's voice is not particularly pleasant, nor his lyrics particularly smart. And the guy used to take himself way too seriously. Howver, I have always liked this album and I am not even a big fan of anything grunge-y: the sound is just powerful and some tunes are memorable.
There are some fantastic songs on these albums, but there are also A LOT of mid album filler. The good songs still pull this out of mediocrity to a solid 4.
A departure from their earlier stuff but there’s some good songs. Definitely could’ve been made a really great of single album instead of the double album that it was
Ich rank das jetzt.. irgendwann komm ich zurück denke ich aber ist eigentlich sehr taff nur manchmal verliert mich das ehrlich gesagt. Ich fand Siamese Dream etwas besser aber gut
Well, this certainly was era-defining.
Penetrates the roots of emotion, ethereal, rocking double album that holds together with strong lyrics, music, and stories.
Thoroughly enjoyed. Gave me great teenage nostalgia. Track wise there were some skips, but all in all a solid effort.
This album is all over the place but the big hits all have a certain sound. Funny how I forgot about all of the deep cuts. Some really doomy, trashy stuff on here. Pleasant surprises for a album I have owned for 30 years and never really listened to.
Good, maybe even 5 stars, but I need to listen to it more to confirm.
It seems redundant to comment on how melodramatic this album is throughout given its name. For the most part Corgan manages to successfully walk the line between earnestness and over the top self-pity. The result is an album with some absolutely brilliant highs with the occasional cringe-inducing line mixed in. The album sounds incredible. Siamese Dream is one of my favourite albums of all time and this one carries on right where SD left off. The contrast between soft and heavy, light and dark, beautiful arpeggios and brutal riffs feels like a tide shifting back and forth. However listening to this again only reinforces my view that no matter how many great songs you have, a double album is never, ever a good idea (unless you’re the Beatles). This is a solid four that would easily be a five if the track list was trimmed down. I tried coming up with what that might look like: Tonight Tonight Jelly Belly Zero Bullet With Butterfly Wings To Forgive Galapagos Porcelina of the Vast Oceans Take Me Down Where Boys Fear to Tread Bodies Thirty-three In the Arms of Sleep 1979 Tales of a Scorched Earth Stumbeline
alternative squared actually bcs it is alternative rock alternately! and i love it but i realise i love the more alternative ones lesser the very rocky type even though it did allow me to do work
fucking love the smashing pumpkins and i love the creative direction of the album art
In glad I took the time to listen to this all the way through. I have played many of thes tracks on frequent rotation over years but it never held up for me as well as their previous Siamese Dream. A number of tracks emerged I really connected with, such as Galapagos and To Forgive but I find some of the fairytale stuff a bit meh. 28 tracks is a lot (apparently nearly as many again were cut) but could have lost a few on disc 2 and not diminished the experience. For me it is a classic but not a masterpiece. I was going it give it 3 but a full end tend listen elevated it to 4. You should listen to this before you die
I’ve loved this one a long time. It used to be the album I listen to to unwind and fall asleep.
This is a very long album and I didn’t enjoy all the songs but I’m giving it a four stars for “Tonight, Tonight,” “Bullets with Butterflies Wings,” “1979,” and for the title and cover. A friend of mine from college was obsessed with this album and the lead singer!
TLDL; really like a few songs on this album
It's better than I thought. I had never really liked the band, but they grew on me a bit here. My complaint would be that the album is too long. But there are enough good tunes to make at least one full albums worth. We didn't really need two.
These guys go pretty hard. I didn't know that. Got a little screechy sometimes though.
2 hours was kinda a lot, that said, I liked pretty much every dang song, so still 4 stars!
2 uur is wel te lang
Amazing. I was really surprised by this album. Lately I've been skipping songs from this band. But now I won't.
Meloncholie and the infinite sadness - 4 Tonight, tonight - 5 Jellybelly - 4 Zero - 5 Here is no why - 4 Bullet with butterfly wings - 5 To forgive - 4 An ode to no one - 4 Love - 4 Cupid de locke - 3 Galapogos - 3 Muzzle - 5 Porcelina of the vast oceans - 3 Take me down - 3 Where boys fear to tread - 5 Bodies - 4 Thirty-three - 4 In the arms of sleep - 3 1979 - 5 Tales of a scorched earth - 4 Thru the eyes of ruby - 4 Stumbleine - 3 X.y.u. - 4 We only come out at night - 3 Beautiful - 3 Lily (my one and only) - 3 By starlight - 3 Farewell and goodnight - 3
Interesting and varied for the whole two hours. I added “Beautiful” to my playlist. 4.5/5
Dense. Difficult. Beautiful. Overstuffed. Too much. Undeniable. Tiring. Hard to take in as a single album, but consistently amazing
4/8 Have heard of this album a lot. Now that I've listened to it, I find it just okay. Similar to OK Computer by Radiohead in that they are both extremely critically acclaimed but nothing really stands out to me. I'll have to give it a few more listens
it was okay...
Double albums are obviously controversial because if you don’t like it then you’ve got a lot to sit through, but Mellon Collie hits for me the whole way through.
great album, unfortunely, after XYU, it has some boring fillers, but still a true classic.
Enjoyed this one much more than expected.
nice album, never listen to a full Smashing pumpkins album before but i like it, very 90's grunge vibe
His flat, nasal voice is sometimes a little too much, but overall good. Bullet with Butterfly Wings is one of those tragically overplayed songs that begins to lose a bit of appeal due to that overplaying.
This album is very long, but it manages to keep you enthralled for it's whole duration by providing a surprisingly diverse and versatile array of tunes that range from Heavy Alt Metal to Dreamy Alt Pop. It's a vast record with tons of great songs. Sadly, CD 2 loses me just a bit cause I never was a fan of Smashing Pumpkins ballads, at least not ones like these. It does get a bit too dreamy at the end for my tastes, still this album is absolutely worth a listen even if I do prefer Siamese Dream over this.
Emo daddies
Very much teenage radio music for me. It's fine, but I have never interacted with it on any real level. It's fine, if somewhat generic that late 90s-early 00s rock way? But considering when this album is from, I guess in this case they are the originators. Bullet with butterfly wings is iconic, the rest of the album is enjoyble enough.
this album was too damn long but it slapped lowkey
Every double album is a failure in editing I'm glad I listened through this once but I think Smashing Pumpkins are going to stay a singles band for me. There are a lot of good singles, both from this album and their others, but they're sort of an abrasive flavor of rock. Needs to be spaced out a bit more. This would be a really solid 4 if it were the 5 singles + 5 other tracks. Instead, consider this a low 4.
its good and i like it
all the songs sound pretty similar but its still good fav song: Tales Of A Scorched Earth
A really tough one to grade. So much here is exceptional. Also, by the back end of disc 2 I’m just exhausted. This is the Corgan experience in a nutshell, incredible, urgent, unique, touching rock; but also can’t self-edit. There’s a 13-track 5-star album somewhere within these 28 tracks. Disc one would probably be a 5 on its own. Disc 2 a 3.75, with “1979” and “Thirty-Three” as perfect tracks. It’s an experience for sure, and I’m deciding to be impressed with Corgan’s ambition, rather than worn down by it. A true classic.
Masse bangers men litt for mye weird shit
I was fortunate to be able to see The Smashing Pumpkins live with some friends Dan and Claire in Vancouver. Dan claimed they had an extra ticket to convince me to join them. Turns out once I confirmed I could make it. They just bought an additional ticket at the pub while we had supper. So the extra ticket was a lie but I was happy to join them either way. The extra ticket they bought me was in a seat near by and thankfully the seat neighbour was fine swapping with me. So I could sit with my friends. Turns out Claire is a die hard fan. So it’s always cool to get more details about an artist from a fan like Claire. I don’t think I would have ever called myself a large smashing pumpkins fan. But I did enjoy the show and this album.
Some of the songs were bangers. Some I found myself wanting to be over. But overall the vibe was really cool
Really enjoyed this, however, it is really long... but most of the songs are really good, I wouldn't say there was no filler... but still some top notch stuff. Big fan of the album art as well. 8.5/10
Good music, but some songs are a little too hectic for my ears
Really like this. I have to push past the synthesized orchestral sounds of track 1 - never a fan, but some great tracks on this double album. My tendency (as often is the case) is for the heavier tracks than the ballads. And maybe the second side of disk 1 is a bit wallowy for me. But peppered with great pick-me-ups. Could this be a shorter album? Maybe, but maybe would be too intense. 4 Number tracks 28 Fave track: Not really picked one yet. First to get a spotify tick was 4: Zero. But would need to listen a few times round to fix on this. Others: Lots, but on my feet and can't make a note of them.
Wonderful mix of punchy rock songs and soft songs. The distortion is a bit much on Tales Of A Scorched Earth. X.Y.U. is the only other song I didn't really like. Very solid album!
Why'd it take me so long to listen to this album in full?
great just too long
Quite nice
It's a really well made album. I remember at the time feeling like, by comparison, it was so much "bigger" feeling than previous releases by them? I didn't care for it. While other albums were disparate and intimate moments this was some grand attempt at an experience and that wasn't what I was looking for. On its own merit it's just a really solid album.
The magnitude of this work alone is crazy. It's not the most cohesive album but it certainly has some stunning tracks.
By the end of the first album the rage felt forced, loved the disparity between the first song and the last, so many of these are my teenager “voice” songs.
A solid classic from the 90's...Billy Corgan is an amazing and creative musical force....
> the Beatles I have listened to a fair amount of Smashing Pumpkins over the year and always liked them, especially Corgan's vocals and the guitars, but never counted myself a fan, necessarily, in that I never owned an album of theirs. Also, I always get nervous about albums over 45 min and this is one of the longest on the list at just over 2 hours. That said, great album. Doesn't totally justify the length but I have no real complaints. Now for one of my favorite Simpsons jokes ever: Billy Corgan: "Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins" Homer: "Homer Simpson, smiling politely"
Yep!
Surprisingly enjoyable but too long
Low 4? Musically I enjoy most of it, Billy is kind of a dweeb and his vocals are grating more often than not. It doesn't feel like as long of a record as it is until the last couple tracks
this shits too long and the dude cant sing but somehow i find myself keep coming back to it
Great album, just runs a bit long
Sprødeste intro til et album med "Tonight, tonight" ngl Kæft jeg synes der er smæk for skillingen! Riff på "Zero" er så magisk! "An Ode To No One" rammer noget magisk! Ren horn på "Tales Of A Scorched Earth" og "X.Y.Y" >:-I Første gang jeg sådan rigtigt stifter bekendtskab med dette vidunderlige band og jeg må bare sige, at jeg er tæt på de 5 stjerner, men for nu må det blive til 4 gigantiske stjerner!
Always much more diverse and compelling than I remember it being. 4/5
A study in contradictions - submit for your approval, a very talented and ambitious yet conflicted and controversial young man. Skilled at concocting pop/rock riffs and music, yet relying on others to help bring his increasingly complex compositions to life while striving for his idea of perfection. For the first couple albums the Pumpkins made psychedelic-tinged arena rock, stuff that wouldn't be unheard of on AOR radio in the late 70s, updated for stoners and alternative kids in the 90s. The success of those albums emboldened young Corgan and he dreamed of a pseudo-concept album with two discs worth of songs. 28 songs! And just as many b-sides that were released on a whole other separate box set. A very prolific period for Mr. Corgan to be sure, but with quantity tends to come the possibility of loss of quality. A few of those lower quality tunes, highly polished or not, make it into this collection, like An Ode to No One, XYU, and Love - heavy, yes; angsty, you betcha; boring and cringy, oh yeah. But there are some pretty songs here if you can get past Corgan's deliberately punkish, nasally singing voice - Tonight Tonight, Thirty-Three, Cupid de Locke, 1979, Galapogos, and some of the second disc. Alongside the pretty songs are the belters - Here Is No Why, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, Jellybelly, Zero, Bodies. Musically, the drums, guitars, instrumentation, and performances are all dazzling. Chamberlin's drum skill and style is unique and is important to the Pumpkins sound along with Corgan's guitar work. An album with emo-ish rock songs balanced with prettier pop songs. An arrogant yet talented band-leader with a dubious singing voice, balanced with seasoned and skilled producers. An epic that mostly works with a few clunkers that don't.
As someone who's enjoyed Siamese Dream since he was a teenager, it's high time that I check out the other big Smashing Pumpkins record. After touring for Siamese Dream, Billy Corgan immediately began writing songs for the next record. There was an intent to go for broke, writing a double album's worth of material, employing a wider variety of styles, working with different producers, and changing their recording process to simultaneously challenge themselves and eliminate the tensions of the last album cycle's sessions. The resulting record, Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, is certainly bold and a lot to take in. This is an emotionally volatile record, as Billy sought to explore what he called "the human condition of mortal sorrow". Apathy, fear, rage, spite, nihilism, isolation, temptation, anguish, disillusion, obsession - there is no sparing in the darker broodings. Between the heavier lyrics and tuned-down guitars, there is very little respite to be found outside of the fleeting hope on the title track and "Tonight, Tonight", the distancing from one's past transgressions on "To Forgive", the longing nostalgia of "1979", and the two tracks penned by James Iha, "Take Me Down" and "Farewell and Goodnight", that close out each disc with calm reflection. I don't think there's a bad or weak track across both halves, certainly with how good the singles are, plus other highlights to be found like the synthetic harp arpeggios of "Cupid de Locke" and the unbridled stomp of "X.Y.U.". Yet it can make for an overwhelming two hours, as themes and sonic palettes run together, particularly with how many songs on the second disc ruminate on love and Billy's past relationships. I'm sure it must have been cathartic for him to lay it all bare, and the rest of the band were able to compensate for what could be considered an ambitious work. Even if I prefer the tighter package of Siamese Dream, I can recognize how important Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness is in shaping the larger pantheon of alternative rock.
Disc 2 might be really selling me. I like the wistful even tempered songs like 1979. I hate when they go loud screamo. Need to re listen but 2 hours of songs god
Pre listening: love me some Smashing Pumpkins so Im excited to see what this album is like 1: consider me gagged at how gentle this first song is. Staying with the Piano so long is giving me melancholy which really sets the stage 2: soft still but more familiar rock 3: the ramp up expected of smashing pumpkins
This is a classic from the 90s. There's a lot of filler if you take the songs individually, but in the context of the album they somehow work.
really glad i finally listened to this all the way through! of course, the singles and the songs i'd heard before went CRAZY hard (bullet w/butterfly wings and tonight, tonight), but i also found new songs i really liked (muzzle, porcelina, we conly come out at night). overall, 4!
Amazing!!
Good Album
*77 Hvis man kan klare det nasale, så er smashing pumpkins jo herre drenge. Man får lyst til at blive republikaner, drikke dårlige lager-øl i garagen og dødløfte ritti tungt.
Intet album er så godt, at det skal være over 2 timer langt. Jeg synes faktisk at det var ret fedt og nød store dele af det (med mest begejstring for del 2). Dog blev det lidt en orker at det skulle tage SÅ lang tid. det bliver 3 STORE stjerner
Det er fed! Der havde været plus-points hvis der kun var en disc 1
Got through most of the double album. I hadn’t listened to their range. Not bad
Billy Corgan you bald headed asshole, its so hard to convince people to listen to this music if you make the album two hours long
Would be perfect if it was an hour and 5 minutes max
The music is spectacular. I absolutely love when they rock out hard, which they do a lot, like on Zero. A minus is Billy Corgan’s voice with its distinct whine. I imagine the lyrics are pretty good—if this challenge has proven me anything, it’s that I really can’t decipher a lyric without having them in front of me, which I don’t do, which I’m sure diminishes a good 1/3 of the intended experience for me (well, depending on the artist.) Still, Smashing Pumpkins just brings an incredible ‘90s collage of sound. It’s ace. Took two days to get through the double album, but I’m going to give that a pass.
I've always thought this album was a bit too long, but it's overall really quite good. The last four/five tracks are like a fall of a cliff though, absolutely should've been cut.
bangeris pec bangera
still not a huge fan of Corgan's voice (or some of the lyrics) but goddamn, the guitar? too good.
What to make of this? Fair to say I came to it prepared to hate. I don’t like this genre of grungy whining 90s American alt rock at all. And when I found it on iTunes my first reaction to a 2:02 album was that I had to find the original rather than the bloated “anniversary deluxe” expanded edition released for super fans. But no. This was, in fact the original. I confess I wasn’t happy. What did Corgan need 2 hours to say when Lennon/McCartney/Harrison and Starr had had to contend with a 40 minute limit? But…. It’s good. It’s not all for me but overall it’s good. I don’t like corgan’s voice much but it works for these songs and he knows how to use it. Even the length- the quality doesn’t really drop for all of the two hours and you have to respect that. I also respect the vision even if I’m not totally on board with it. He’s taken a mighty swing at something special and even if he doesn’t quite nail it, there is honour in the attempt. It’s certainly true that he could have made an all time great album if he’d edited it down to 50 minutes and been more conventional but that feels like nitpicking; he was after something more than conventional brilliance. 4*
Better than Coldplay
A lot of grandiose strings and swelling pieces.
Off to a good start met het eerste nummer. (Voelt aan als) classic: bullet with butterfly wings Ik zag er in het begin een beetje tegenop om als eerste album direct een album van 2u te luisteren. Maar het heeft zeker niet teleurgesteld. Al ben ik heel wat fases doorgegaan, maar dat lag niet echt aan het album maar eerder aan de setting waarin ik het album geluisterd heb. --------- (Heb op het werk geluisterd - Ik denk dat mensen mij nog nooit zoveel nodig hebben gehad als vandaag (: ) --------- Dat gezegd zijnde zaten er wel heel wat goede nummers tussen. Ik ben persoonlijk meer fan van de eerste cd dan van de tweede. Voelde als heel classic en goede diepe rock aan. Allee, anno 2026 voelt dit toch als classic aan ;) Dat gezegd zijnde kan ik wel inzien waarom dit als een klassieker/ een belangrijk werk beschouwd wordt. Verder dacht ik de naam van de artiest wel te herkennen. Maar daar bleef het dan voor de rest ook bij. Wil wel nog even vermelden dat ik de titel + artwork wel geniaal vind. Off to a good start, again ;)
Imperial Age excess and indulgence - with the tunes to back it up. It's easy to talk about the high points, as this has more belters than an average band's whole discography. The record also has obvious flaws - it's bloated, incoherent, poorly organised; another band with another producer would have concluded they had material for 2 solid albums, and a handful of b-sides to boot. But if you sit with it, it quietly turns those flaws into part of its strength: this is not one record, it's an overly ambitious, maximalist expression of a creative voice. Billy Corgan wants to show the world all he can do, and he'll leave no stone unturned in the process. Turns out, he can do a fair bit. Lush, emotional strings, fire breathing guitars, hazy layers of melancholy and urgency, beatle-esque winks and adolescent sneering rage. The sprawling incoherence of all this mashed together over two, long CDs could just be careless and boring, but it turns into an extended stay inside a pretty singular mind, in all its pretty and ugly facets; like reading through a year's of a messy, intense teenger's diary. But damn, this messy teenager can write a song.
Toll, schöne Mischung aus fetzig und etwas entspannter. Interessante Stimme
When I think 90s album, this album art is one of those albums that pops up. Which is why I think it's a must listen but is it that good of an album? The album is actually pretty good but after 1979 the album becomes a real pain to go through. really don't like Spotify having allot of extra stuff in. I heard the hits and this album has the most of them in it but some tracks were really cool that i hadn't heard before.
Could've done without some of the screaming songs like Tales Of A Scorched Earth, but Jellybelly was a surprise hit for me. I do think these double albums are a bit much to sit through but the music was good.
I love this album. It’s very rare I listen to the whole thing. It’s funny how well I know the first disc and how little I know the second. All around great album.
Good.
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I had steered clear of this one for a while because of a number of bad reviews, especially about the length of the album and about the tone. So I was surprised to find that I quite enjoyed it. Perhaps my expectations were dulled. I knew several of the tracks already, which helps, and I found a few others that were new to me and have entered my permanent collection. That said: the album is still way too long. I'm not sure I've ever truly loved a double album - I don't get why bands don't just save up the spare material, and if they still believe in it six months later then bang, another album is ready to go.
An unfortunately short review today as I was an idiot and didn’t start listening to this two hour album before 10pm. Overall was quite a good listen aside from the usual Pumpkins whinyness. Will give it a 4/5 ⭐️ and may come back to it later and give it the listen it deserves. 60/1089
I wouldn’t really call myself a fan of The Smashing Pumpkins. I’ve heard some of their stuff before, thought it was alright, then moved on. Still, I went into this with an open mind, listening to each disc over two sessions (which definitely helped me at least somewhat forgive the long runtime). There’s a lot I like here. The intimate, stripped-back moments contrast nicely with the heavier alt-rock tracks, and at its best, it really delivers. That said, even after spitting it into two listening sessions, I still thought it overstayed its welcome a fair bit. Overall, I think 4 stars is pretty generous.
Pretty pretty pretty good
Truly a classic of the era. I didn't realize this had all my favorite Smashing Pumpkins songs. I didn't really listen to this a ton when it came out (my loss!) - just the hits - so I don't quite have the nostalgia factor that would push it to 5 stars.
Pac smashing pumpkins
Lovely but it does go on. Occasionally repeats
Amazing. Took me back to my salad days - the 90s
very nice! liked most of the songs. 4.
I hadn’t listened to this since high school but all of the reasons I liked it then apply to why I like it now lol
Some of my favorite songs ever came from this album.
A really solid album, but it could stand to be cut down a bit. If they cut down some of the filler felling tracks, it could be a five star, lcloser to the length of Siamese dream.
This is a classic!
Great album
The 90s really were a great time to be a bald frontman (Stipe, Maynard James Keenan, Moby, the guy from Live) and Billy Corgan certainly sits in that pantheon. It could do with a bit of trimming given the two hour runtime but most of the music here is great.
Too long, but also a lot of good riffs and heavy songs. A little too dark for me though for repeat listening.
The album is long but there’s so many good songs
The 2nd half kinda tapers out but it’s still a great experience
Lowk pretty wiggagagahaha
8/10
Billy Corgan is talented
This album is undoubtedly one of the most insane things I’ve ever heard. It’s a fair bit bloated, but a good majority of these songs are really solid. There’s still over an hour of this album that’s 9/10 or 10/10, even if there are some stinkers in there (Stumbleine, Cupid De Locke, Take Me Down, pretty much every song after XYU). The Pumpkins explore a vast array of different styles and sounds: everything from fast and furious metal to soft and luscious psych rock. The highlights for me are mostly the aggressive shredders like Jellybelly, Zero, Ode to No One, Bodies, Scorched Earth, and XYU. Other highlights include Here Is No Why, Eyes of Ruby, Where Boys Fear to Tread, and To Forgive, which all bring something unique to the table that’s pretty awesome. There are also some kind of like baroque pop songs that really don’t land very well, but thankfully there aren’t too many. At these points, the album feels a bit disjointed, but honestly I feel that this is minimized as much as possible over the rest of the tracklist. If you’re not a big Pumpkins fan, then this album is almost certainly torture for you. But if you are, there’s a lot of gold hiding this incredibly impressive tracklist.
下载中的碎碎念： 这专辑也太长了，两个小时！ 不知道文件要多大，24-96的。 2.6G！！！ ------------------ 现在是第四首，zero 感觉渐入佳境，合成器/失真效果用的不错。吉他等乐器给人的感觉是平铺开的，比较营造背景氛围。 上半张听完，印象是，这张专辑比较精致，雅，不像我印象中的摇滚一样粗糙。 ------- 下半张听睡着了，感觉没有上半张精致 ------ 第二天早上听过之后：下半张确实没有上半张精致！
Great angsty fun
The frontman is a from a suburb near me and the drummer is from my hometown Joliet ! Which I found out last fall but I love this album it’s just a autumn/fall album
Great fucking album, loved every second of it, but, i think it was way too long, otherwise it would be a 10/10 but nevertheless i'd say this is a solid project
Wouldn’t been a 5 if it wasn’t 2 hours
One of the best of the 90s no doubt
some great songs but man way too long for me
RYM 3.5
Needs a bit of editing but some bangers on this
Amazing record; would be a 5 if it were trimmed down.
Has some great hits
Grew up with this special edition set in the car!
This one is a really goed alternative album. It is a long sit, the album being 2 hours and 1 minute long. But it never felt like 2 hours. It's not a perfect album by all means, but it has a lot of good songs on it. The instrumental opening of the album is beautiful. And while I enjoy some of the louder songs, the strenght of this album lies within the softer, more emotional songs.
- yes billy we GET IT ur a music genius - i cant even hate this album is just really good - i really like "jellybelly" - jellybelly was supposed to be released as the single instead of bullet with butterfly wings but didnt bc bwbw was more radio friendly - maybe the self glaze is accurate - definitely think there are better smashing pumpkins albums tho
There's so much diversity in this record. It can be melancholic in a couple of tracks, and then go upbeat, with breakdowns in the next. Favourite Track(s): An Ode To No One, Cupid De Locke, Thirty-Three, By Starlight, X.Y.U Least Favourite Track(s): Porcelina Of The Vast Ocean
I was a big fan of this back in the day. Haven't really listened to it in 20 years so it's nice revisiting an old friend. It's pretty good, but why is this a double album? I feel like it could have either been a a great album with a tighter selection or two seperate albums? Maybe I'm too dumb to pick up on the underlying concept unifying the album, but the verbosity made it a chore to get through the whole thing.
Great album. Shit ton of songs but stays interesting with no dips. Every song on here is good. Even songs I don't care about as singles show up here really well. I haven't gone through all of Smashing Pumpkins catalogue to say this difinitively, but really seems like this is the band at their peak. Big album from the 90s and deservedly so. Excellent choice for a long car trip.
I own this album. It's the only Smashing Pumpkins album I ever bought. I may have listened to this album all the way through one time. It is just too long. It's about 2 hours long and while there are some great songs on this album.. there aren't enough for 2 hours worth of music. If it was one album with all of the singles and a few other tracks it would have been in high rotation. Instead it's a chore and you have to be dedicated to want to listen to a 2 hour album. "Porcelina of the Vast Oceans" caught my attention this time... and it's over 9 minutes long. This album you have to listen to before you die but there might not be enough time in your life to make it all the way through enough times to appreciate it.
Pretty good
For a two hour album this flies by. There's absolutely some fat to trim, but so much of the album is pure quality
Riffs and feelings - the album! Everything about this album is huge, from the riffs to the choruses to the production to the track list. Could be too long for its own good, but just about manages to stay a gorgeous experience, really feels like you've been through something by the time the last few songs wash over you! Favourite tracks: Tonight Tonight, Cherub Rock, Bullet With The Butterfly Wings, Porcelina, Bodies, 1979 (amazing), By Starlight
Undoubtedly this is a genre defining album. It uses so many different themes and musical approaches all in the same style. With big instrumental arrangements in Tonight, Tonight. Grungy guitars in Bullet with Butterfly Wings. Light harp in Cupid de Locke. Heavy over driven guitars and screaming in Bodies. It is clearly a magnum opus for the Smashing Pumpkins. But it is a long musical journey to go on from start to end. And the slightly buzzing quality of Billy Corgan with guitar accompaniment can get a little much towards the end of Disc 1 (Dusk till Dawn) and the start of Disc 2 (Twilight to Starlight). But overall I enjoyed this album. Even if it was a mission to finish in 24 hours. (3.650)
Actually much better than I remember it.
I feel like Smashing Pumpkins was bringing something more original to the early-to-mid 90s to grunge/alternative scene. They were the favorite band of the artsy kid at my high school. Meanwhile, Linkin Park was the favorite band of the kid that didn't read. That's kinda the difference. I never loved them myself, but I respected them. And some of these songs are pretty great. (FYI, I had a small high school. That's why it's kid-singular... Coincidentally, the artsy kid also loved Tori Amos and Little Earthquakes is the next album up for me. Neat!)
Zero y 1979 buenasss, las otras también me gustaron y fue muy interesante ver las letras
Artists wanting to make an interesting longer album, take notes. This album is on the longer side, but keeps the listener interested by varying lots throughout the entire album. However I am just not a fan of the singer’s voice, costing this album the perfect rating. 4/5
This is a generally solid album with a lot of great songs on it, however it ultimately overstays its welcome and could have really used some trimming down. The highs are on par with Siamese Dream, but I feel that album is much more cohesive and complete. Still an enjoyable listen overall though.
Great album, musically superb, Billy Corgan’s vocals get on my nerves though
First side is 5 stars but the second half brings it down to 4 for me. Maybe it’s just fatigue and I should split it up. It’s no doubt an album that reaches the peak of their abilities as a band but it’s not an album I reach for very often, and if I want a dose of Smashing Pumpkins, I usually reach for Siamese Dream. Nonetheless, this is a great listen full of great songs and some absolute bangers.
Usually don’t like double albums as much because there is often a lot of filler. I didn’t feel this with this one, brilliant
Me mola mas el Siamese Dream
I'm gonna be so real, I didn't pay attention to the lyrics at all. That is very unlike me to do, but this being a 2 hour album by a band I was hearing for the first time there would be no other way for me to get through it without just kinda going by vibes. The vibes were nice, I have to say. I liked most of how this sounded, not the biggest fan of the singers voice but it was fine enough. Really like the instrumentation. I maybe probably shouldn't give this a 4, since I didn't exactly fully pay attention, but I will. I've known *of* this album for a while, always been intrigued by the name and cover. I knew It would never live up to what I wanted it to be, but for what it is, it is pretty good
back to back sp was a lot.. still good tho
Kind of bloated in spots but the overall product is solid.
Good songs on there, though I think they could’ve focused a bit more on quality > quantity. It’s quite heavy on songs.
I've never been a big fan of the Pumpkins, but this album is undeniably great. My last album was a Cure album which, at over 1:10, I was calling bloated. And here I am praising an effort which is over 2:00. The big difference is that while the Cure set a mood and stayed in it the entire time, that made the album feel more like a slog than it should have. Meanwhile, the Pumpkins come right out and give you energy and manage to carry it in many songs throughout the record, while at the same time providing more than enough diversity in the songs to keep your interest. The beginning of this record is tight with the first 5 songs after the title track (which is just an intro anyway). Tonight Tonight, Zero, and Bullet With Butterfly Wings are an especially tremendous way to kick things off. After that, it's not as great, though there's still a lot to like about this record. Giving this 4-stars. I get that it's an epic effort, but it's not unbelievable from beginning to end.
First time ever listening to this classic Smashing Pumpkins album all the way through.
OH. Perfection. This album really was a journey. A tour de force that really made the world pay attention to The Smashing Pumpkins, and regrettably: the album that Billy Corgan couldn’t really beat. It goes down in history as one of the greatest works of the 2000’s.
Sadly too long, but some great tracks in here. Epic scope and lots of variety, and they know how to blend catchy riffs with melody without becoming cheesy.
There’s a lot of good songs on here. There’s also a lot of songs.
Essa álbum duplo é realmente épico (pode ser chamado de "pretensioso" também, mas no bom sentido). Consegue transitar muito bem entre tristeza, contemplação, fúria e revolta existencial. O fuzz continua lá dando o mesmo peso que já era característico da banda nos álbuns anteriores. Billy está cantando muito bem, alternando as nuances da performance entre calmo e raivoso, dependendo do que a canção pede. Em termos de repertório acho que o albúm não tem gordura. Tudo está onde deveria estar. A capa é linda e merece mesmo virar tatuagem nos braços de muitos fãs. Destaques: os hits absolutos: "Tonight, Tonight", "Zero", "Bullet with Butterfly Wings", "1979" (talvez minha preferida do albúm). Outros destaques: "Jellybelly", "Porcelina Of The Vast Oceans", "Bodies" (ótima!), "Thirty-Three", e no trecho final, as delicadas: "Beautiful", "By Starlight" e "Farewell And Goodnight".
la copertina di questo album mi piace TROPPO, l’album anche molto e penso che la dicotomia tra ballate romantiche / lente e pezzi più metal sia molto poetica. anche i testi sono belli. chiaramente tutti i pezzi più metal sono lontani da me e non apprezzo troppo però l’album resta un fatto
more like mellon collie and the infinite playlist
Not a big fan of TSP, but I can appreciate this. Some top tracks. Disc 2 seems a bit pointless though.
I really liked the symphonic opening and it was good to branch out a little and listen to some metal (which I don't usually do). On a relisten, I'm liking it even more and bumped it from a 3 to a 4 star record. I should learn to play the guitar/bass
This is a bit too hard for my personal taste but I actually think it’s a really great album so I’m giving it 4 stars. If 14 year old me was given this she would have loved it. Metal, grunge and hard rock into one. It’s super cool. Anyway, these are the faves: Bullet with Butterfly Wings, Love, Muzzle, Porcelina Of The Vast Oceans, Thru The Eyes of Ruby, Stumbleine
Tempting to give it a five for nostalgia reasons, but I was struck by how good the non-single tracks are. Just bangers top to bottom. Galapagos and Thirty Three were fun finds
I listened to the first part of this album as I ran out of time over a busy weekend, but wow it was great. Will put this on my list of things to listen too again and get on their back catalogue.
There's no reason this needs to be two full hours, but there less filler on this than I expected. Unsurprisingly disc one is better, and disc two gets pretty sleepy toward the end. Billy Corgan may be an insufferable jagoff, but the dude knows how to write a riff. I still think Siamese Dream is the Pumpkins' best, though I get why people love this album so much.
I love The Smashing Pumpkins but I do not think I have listened to this album in full yet, so I am excited. It is 2 hours long, which I did not finish the last album that was this long, but since I am familiar and I took a 3 hour nap earlier, I might finish it. Here we go. Track 1 is honestly so beautiful. I think it is interesting because you wouldn't expect such a beautiful composition to be track 1 on an album made by an alternative band. Also, considering I have heard a lot of this band's songs, it is very different from their usual sound. Track 2 is one of my favorite TSP songs The Smashing Pumpkins really know how to write the most heavenly guitar riffs that fit the contrasting sounds of twangy pop and metal. Track 3 has such a different sound from track 2 that it is nothing short of just impressive. I have heard this song before and it is another one of my favorites. Track 4 is yet another favorite. Honestly, I don't think I have ever heard a song of theirs that I did not like. If anything, their songs are usually the kind that I play over and over again until I get sick of it, and the time away from these songs reminds me once again how good they are. Track 5 is a song I have not heard before, but I like it a lot. Track 6 is a classic song, has always been and will always be good. Track 7 is another one I have not heard before, but I do like it. I have never heard track 8 before and honestly it is not my favorite, but it is still good. Track 8 is good, I like it. Track 9 is amazing. This seems so far like it might be a 5 star album. There have been no skips yet. Track 10 is another classic. Track 11 is another one I have not heard before, but it is very good. The same goes for track 12. Track 13 was absolutely transcendental. I have just a couple songs left on the album now. Overall, this album is really, really good. I think in the middle it gets a little less interesting so I think I will give this one 4 stars. I think if it was shorter, it would definitely be 5 stars.
Nok et gammelt bekjentskap. Alt-rock, tidvis med grunge/metal-preg. Jeg er fullstendig forelsket i dette albumcoveret. Det er noe magisk og drømmeaktig ved det som virkelig taler til meg. Musikken holder nesten stand, men det er nok litt for langt for sitt eget beste. Albumet kicker off med en fantastisk streak med en håndfull vilt gode rockesanger, så er det litt berg-og-dalbane deretter. Plate 1 (Dawn to Dusk) er derfor en soleklar femmer. Jeg sliter litt mer med plate 2 (Twilight to Starlight), som i sin helhet er mer downtempo og drømmeaktig. Dette er midt på treet bra. Top 3 Dawn to Dusk: Here Is No Why, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, Galapogos Twilight to Starlight: Bodies, 1979, By Starlight
Heard some before; 3.5; There's so many different elements and styles tucked into this album. Some parts have me thinking of indie/emo, others sound are a little bit Nu Metal. Lots of more straightforward rock songs, as well as ones that lean more towards ballads. The album manages to blend these together without being too jarring. The alternative tunings and thick guitar give a certain smoothness to the songs while still coming through like a buzzsaw. The singles are also still very catchy. Especially because of the length of the album, I think multiple listens will be good to really appreciate it. With that said, I think that they really pull off this ambitious project Favorite Track: Bullet With Butterfly Wings
I was a Britpop obsessed teenager in 1995. Then I heard “Tonight, Tonight” and it blew my mind. I searched everywhere for this cd (I grew up in a town that had no record shops!) and ended up paying more than I ever had before for a cd just for that 1 track. It was a bonus, then, that the rest of the album was so good. That said, I haven’t listened to the full 2 hours in one sitting too many times. A bit pretentious but there are some of 90s alternative musics best tracks on this album. Scorched earth and XYU can get in the bin though. Oh and Billy Corgan is just wrong about Pearl Jam.