Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness

Bardzo eklektyczna płyta. Od grunge, po cięższe brzmienia. z kilkoma przyjemnymi balladami w roli przerywników. Niestety, jak to przy tak długich albumach - nie jestem w stanie dać więcej niż 6.5/10 równane w dół, bo jest nierówno - momentami wybitnie, często nie w moim guście. Ale doceniam i bardzo szanuję.

fucking love the smashing pumpkins and i love the creative direction of the album art

In glad I took the time to listen to this all the way through. I have played many of thes tracks on frequent rotation over years but it never held up for me as well as their previous Siamese Dream. A number of tracks emerged I really connected with, such as Galapagos and To Forgive but I find some of the fairytale stuff a bit meh. 28 tracks is a lot (apparently nearly as many again were cut) but could have lost a few on disc 2 and not diminished the experience. For me it is a classic but not a masterpiece. I was going it give it 3 but a full end tend listen elevated it to 4. You should listen to this before you die

I’ve loved this one a long time. It used to be the album I listen to to unwind and fall asleep.

2 stars for the 2 hours of this I’m not listening to

This is a very long album and I didn’t enjoy all the songs but I’m giving it a four stars for “Tonight, Tonight,” “Bullets with Butterflies Wings,” “1979,” and for the title and cover. A friend of mine from college was obsessed with this album and the lead singer!

TLDL; really like a few songs on this album

Epic album which is still relevant and could have been released yesterday.

Tiene excelentes temas, pero noto el album desbalanceado. Los temas de Soft o los "no tan pesados" son una maravilla, pero lamentablemente tiene temas muy pesados que no condicen con el resto del album (y son varios). 2.5 estrellas.

On my first listen I was annoyed by how long the album was, but on the second listen I liked how varied it was. They used the length of the album to include a variety of styles. Some of those styles I preferred to others, but that’s the nature of having a lot of variety. The lyrics can get a bit cheesy, but as a former angsty teen there was a certain nostalgia to the album, and not just because some of the songs were already known to me. I don’t think I’d listen to the full album again, maybe if I was still an angsty teenager, but it was nice to have listened and been reminded that I made it through those years. Fav song: 1979 - an honourable mention to Bullet With Butterfly Wings which I'll always sing along to when it plays. Least fav: Tales Of A Scorched Earth

The pitchfork review calls it an album "only teenagers could love" and maybe I would have loved it if I'd first heard it years ago but I'm now neither a teenager nor a Smashing Pumpkins fan. I enjoy the songs where they do something different but I can't tell if I actually like them or just want a break from the rest of album... It felt like an achievement to have made it to the end- I don't think that's how listening to an album should feel. Favourite song: Cupid De Locke Least: Tales Of A Scorched Earth

It's a beast. A behemoth, really. Could it be trimmed down to regular album length and be a completely perfect album? Yes. But then it wouldn't be the greatest double album ever released, and that's not a trade-off I'm willing to make. Billy Corgan was at his creative peak during the writing of this album, and it shows. While it is in no way concise, it takes the listener on an incredible journey showcasing a nice variety, from the beautiful to the downright ugly. And the songs are FANTASTIC. This has spent 30+ years being one of my favourite albums for a reason. Absolute greatness on display here.

It's better than I thought. I had never really liked the band, but they grew on me a bit here. My complaint would be that the album is too long. But there are enough good tunes to make at least one full albums worth. We didn't really need two.

This is a big fat impressively executed album. I don't care for most of it, mostly because of Billy's vocals, but, whatever. There are a few great tracks here, but Billy is best enjoyed in very small doses. This double album is too much. I was astonished to learn that they cut a lot of material to get it down to the size. I think they should have kept going.

"The Smashing Pumpkins are one of the most iconic, and influential bands of all time, shaping alternative music and culture" - is what they say about themselves on Spotify, where they get 14 million listens a month, okay that's a thing. For my part, I didn't/don't get it. They're okay as some type of rock band - maybe 'alt' enough to be cool, while also mainstream enough to sell big. (Noting that "popular with Americans" =/= good.) Some songs on this album are pretty uninteresting. But I do give it credit for range of styles and moods, I like some of the grungier bits. Interested that Robert Christgau said '1979' is a good song, on an album not worth buying :-) (Also why is the singing so often so extraordinarily nasal? Do some ppl like that? Sits poorly with "grumpy teen" theme of the lyrics.) Anyway I'll say the album is Mix of Good and Bad, 5/10.

I cannot stand the Smashing Pumpkins.

These guys go pretty hard. I didn't know that. Got a little screechy sometimes though.

2 hours was kinda a lot, that said, I liked pretty much every dang song, so still 4 stars!

Ja leuke lyrics en style, maar het raakt me niet helemaal

2 uur is wel te lang

Toneieieieieieight. 2 uur lang die zeikstem

Thought I loved this album until I sat through two hours of it

Alright

Amazing. I was really surprised by this album. Lately I've been skipping songs from this band. But now I won't.

6/10 The Smashing Pumpkins are a band that should fit right into the sweet spot for me. 90s grunge adjacent alt rockers with an artsy edge and an eclectic range of influences, willing to dip into a variety of different genres within their sound. But they've just never really clicked. Could a 28 track, two hour long record hook me in? Things didn't get off to the greatest start, with the first couple of tracks feeling a little repetitive and self important. I was also not convinced by Billy Corgan's singing voice. When they're doing cleaner, more melodically focused stuff, he sounds like Eric Cartman doing an indie whisper singing pastiche, which is not the most appealing of sounds. With the heavier stuff, it does start to work though, so that was a definite relief. The album does start to get going after the first couple of tracks, and there's some really good stuff here. They blend ideas well and offer some interesting uses of rhythm and intensity to create some really engaging music. There were times during this first half of the record where I was impressed and was leaning towards a higher score, but as it progressed, it started to feel far too flabby and rambling. Sonically, it feels a little inconsistent too. There are gritty, dirty little numbers like Love that embody an effectively filthy aesthetic to stuff like Tonight, Tonight that are super clean, over written and over produced, and as a result, it doesn't feel completely coherent. I do like the ebb and flow of it, but I feel like they overwork things in places and it feels a bit too try hard, while also not managing to make those sonic transitions in a particularly smooth or nuanced way. It's a massive shame, to be honest, because I really feel like there's an excellent album in here, but it's obscured by self indulgence and an unwillingness to trim the fat. Although the fact that they subsequently released a box set with a further 28 tracks suggests that self editing is perhaps not one of the most practiced skills in Billy Corgan's toolbox. Sadly, despite the fact that I'd class myself as more of a Smashing Pumpkins fan after listening to this record, this album just started to get a bit boring after a while and there was way to much guff to weed through to pick out the gems. Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness - This is a bit of a rambling opening that's quite repetitive in the rhythm and cadences of the playing. Sounds a bit like someone who's not that good at the piano who thinks that they are. With some mellotron for a bit. Tonight, Tonight - This is quite dramatic, but also quite repetitive. It's got good and varied pace, but it feels a bit heavy on the drum rolls and pomposity. It just kind of feels quite overworked for what is fundamentally quite a simple song. And Billy Corgan sounds a bit like Eric Cartman whisper singing. Jellybelly - This is more like it. Heavy, grungy, grubby and rhythmically interesting too. His voice works much better with this type of sound to my ears. It's got a fury to the delivery and the muddiness of the recording gives it an effective aesthetic. Quite a jarring production change from the previous track though. Zero - Great riff, and this continues the feeling from the last track well. The lyrics are a bit tortured, but otherwise this is a solid track. It drives, it's sonically interesting and it's pretty weighty too. The chorus is excellent, making good use of that riff. Here Is No Why - This is quite chunky and again, there's some decent rhythmic interest in the composition. There are some elements of it that I really like, but it feels a little bit ponderous in places too. I can't quite put my finger on this one really, it feels like it's almost really good, but just doesn't completely connect. Bullet With Butterfly Wings - There's a bit of subtlety to this one that's good. It's a slower burn that builds tension well and then has a frantic fury to the heavier sections. Solid performances across the board, even if there are the odd bits that get a tad repetitive. Pretty good though. To Forgive - The vibe to this is good. It's got a nice soft groove underpinning it and it has some really cool tonal changes that take it in unexpected directions now and then. It gets a tiny bit meandering, but still decent. An Ode To No One - Now this is more like it. Tonally fierce, throbbing and packed with drive. They do throw in interesting rhythmic breaks here and there that I like. The breakdown felt a little overworked, but when it comes back in, it's great. So much going on but it still feels coherent and has a lot of forward direction. Good stuff. Love - The falling to pieces tone of the saturation here is lovely. It's sonically gritty and lush. The song rumbles along brilliantly with some tasty bits of ear candy popping out from beneath the wash of dirt. It's got a great chorus too. What an interesting combination of composition and production. Really good. Cupid De Locke - I actually quite like the orchestration here and there's still a bit of muddiness that underlies the clean top end that connects it to the previous track better than I initially thought. The interwoven lines from the different instruments give this great momentum and feel, and the little sprinklings of reversed audio are gorgeous. Galapogos - A pretty little song here that has some really, really nice guitar work. It threatens to build to something a few times and pulls away before delivering, but it works effectively, with a bubbling tension that always gets whipped away at the last moment. There's some really nice subtle use of mellotron in here too. Nice. Muzzle - It's got a restrained pace to it, but the groove to this is pretty good. It ebbs and flows as it goes and the different sections feed into each other pretty well. It's another that I think is pretty good, but perhaps doesn't completely connect with me and feels a little lacking in something that I can't quite put my finger on. Maybe it's a tad rambly and also vocally repetitive. Porcelina Of The Vast Oceans - A nice, slow build here. It's subtle and restrained and the production is lovely. It's quite a jarring jump into the distorted guitar riff though. The crispy grit that layers when it drops back to the quieter section is lovely. The heavier sections are pretty good too, actually and I like the different elements of production they use in each of the quieter sections, giving it sonic depth and an evolving quality that allows a long song like this to feel justified and fresh to the end. Take Me Down - A weaker song to finish side one, but I guess they've got to give James Iha one. It's just a bit dull and despite the fact that Billy Corgan's voice is a bit weird, at least he has a distinctive style. Ihas' voice is just weak and he struggles to hit the higher notes. Meh. Where Boys Fear To Tread - It's a bit of an aimless start, but the riff is solid when it gets going. That being said, it feels a bit rhythmically and dynamically flat and monotonous. There's something in there, but everything feels like it lacks the urgency and intensity that the better songs display. Bodies - There's a bit more to this than the previous track, but it still feels a bit dynamically limited. At least Corgan's vocal attempts to give things a bit more intensity and the breakdown in the middle adds a bit of extra variety. I'm not entirely sold on the vocal melodies here though and he does get a bit repetitive. Thirty-Three - This is quite pretty and has some interesting sound design elements to it. It is quite repetitive, particularly on the percussion side of things, but it's got enough going on in the tonal elements to keep it from getting too bogged down. In The Arms Of Sleep - There are some really nice bits and pieces in here, but it's a bit bland from a songwriting point of view. It's pleasant enough, but it doesn't really go anywhere and despite the production efforts to give it a bit of depth, which add a bit of life to it, things do feel just a little musically thin. 1979 - Things are picking up again now. The mix is excellent and the production gives depth, while the musical foundation is really strong. That combination is a winner. There's dynamic range, some solid vocal melodies and interesting development of the musical themes. The building intensity in places is really nice too, although it feels like a higher peak would have been nice. Tales Of A Scorched Earth - Quite the tonal shift, not just musically, but from a production point of view too. This is cool, but it's very muddy and sludgy, especially after 1979. I like it and it has good intensity and tone, but it's such a sonic shift that it feels jarring. Thru The Eyes Of Ruby - Another sharp direction change. It's pretty and swells and pulses beautifully and then develops into something nice and weighty. It's another where there are some really strong bits, but I'm not sure it justifies a seven and a half minute runtime. The stripped back section at the end is really nice, but it just took too long to get there, and then the acoustic guitar bit feels more like a move into another track than part of this one. Stumbleine - Another pleasant enough song that is melodically quite pretty but doesn't particularly do much other than dance around its core theme. Its just a tad rambly and aimless, but it's not bad. X.Y.U. - This is a bit more like it again. Good riffs, driving grooves and plenty of dynamic range. It has the right level of intensity from the vocal to match up with the simmering and then pulsating sections from the rest of the band. The breakdown is cool too and builds back up nicely with the increasing pace and Fury working really well. I'm not sure this needed to be 7 minutes long, but it would have made for a great album closer. We Only Come Out At Night - This has got some interesting sounds in it, but it's quite plodding. I feel like I'm saying this a lot, but there are some great elements about it and some weaker ones. I quite like the slight weirdness of it, but it's not that musically interesting. Sonically, it's cool though. Might work ok if it wasn't more than an hour and a half into the record. Beautiful - Again, this is quite plodding. There's some nice bits of sound design, but it's less sonically interesting and it's very basic musically and doesn't have particularly satisfying flow. It's quite maudlin, but not in a very interesting way. I don't really rate the drumming here either. Feels like this is really petering out now. Lily (My One And Only) - Yep, definitely petering out. Again, this is plodding, the drumming is quite annoying (why is that repetitive hi-hat so prominent) and it feels very musically basic and quite unoriginal. It kind of feels like an early demo rather than a finalised track. By Starlight - This is a bit better. It feels more well rounded and tonally consistent. It's a shame that this has come after a couple of quite plodding tracks, because it really feels like the album is running out of steam, but this is actually really nice. It's well written, has good melodies and has a good emotional core. A really nice track. Farewell And Goodnight - A fairly generic and uninteresting ballad. It's ok, I guess, but I don't really see what it offers as the 28th track on the album apart from giving Iha another vocal and writing credit. Big old meh.

Meloncholie and the infinite sadness - 4 Tonight, tonight - 5 Jellybelly - 4 Zero - 5 Here is no why - 4 Bullet with butterfly wings - 5 To forgive - 4 An ode to no one - 4 Love - 4 Cupid de locke - 3 Galapogos - 3 Muzzle - 5 Porcelina of the vast oceans - 3 Take me down - 3 Where boys fear to tread - 5 Bodies - 4 Thirty-three - 4 In the arms of sleep - 3 1979 - 5 Tales of a scorched earth - 4 Thru the eyes of ruby - 4 Stumbleine - 3 X.y.u. - 4 We only come out at night - 3 Beautiful - 3 Lily (my one and only) - 3 By starlight - 3 Farewell and goodnight - 3

There’s an amazing album in here somewhere… but two hours of Billy Corgan is just too much

not a bit of me

Interesting and varied for the whole two hours. I added “Beautiful” to my playlist. 4.5/5

Dense. Difficult. Beautiful. Overstuffed. Too much. Undeniable. Tiring. Hard to take in as a single album, but consistently amazing

TT better than I remembered, lovely outro into JellyBelly, Billy's voice still kinda annoying me but I love those chords out of chorus. Very lovely strings, very epic opening. Jelly Belly is the kind of pumpkins I hate, mindlessly thrashy, Billy's whiney twang just doesn't suit heavier material for me. Some great little progressions in between large swathes of messy 4 chord guitar sections. Good solo. Also could be my speakers, but this sounds MUDDDDYYYY. Likely intentional but still. Zero is a classic, fucking love those harmonics and will forever. However jesus I didn't realise how much of the problem I had with the pumpkins was Billy's dumb fucking voice. Here is no why, forgettable instantly. BWBF is a ripper, no surprises there, Billy ends up with a bit of edge in this one. To forgive and Ode to No One, to be honest, spaced out on these ones, I was too busy googling fucked up stories of Billy during the late 2000s when it seemed to be his mission to ruin every tour he went on. Funny stuff. Came back for Love, a pseudo-electronic nu-punk thing, kinda slams in the verses, well mixed, surprised by this one. Billy needs more processing on other tracks, I think half the time the problem is his voice is just floating over the top of a lot of low and low-middle end in these tracks and it's just all you can hear. Cupid de Locke immediately a breath of fresh air with some pretty strings. Galapogos is a nice song, softer, slower, art rock stuff just suits Billy better, the guitar gets to shine, can hear more rhythm in the bass. Muzzle, another song that sounds exactly like every other song, soft, loud, soft. Porcelina, cool guitar sound in the chorus, I literally cannot stop thinking about Billy's voice once again, how little it fits. take me down my fav song I didn't already know, obviously beach boys or generally 60s pop inspired, it's pleasant, especially after approximately 50 minutes of 90s guitar driven art rock, I would expect more variety from a self proclaimed concept album, let alone one inspired by the White Album. 1979 is a song for me that is incredibly overplayed, but came as a breath of fresh aire after an hour and 20 of stuff I was just not interested in. Tales of a Scorched Earth not bad. Thru the Eyes of Ruby genuinely I think one of my fav songs on the album, clean, classic rock, great riff with some cool very 70s psychedelia stuff going on, Billy is reasonably mixed with some backup singing to help him out, i also actually don't mind it's length. It's a shame this is such a negative review, I don't like not liking things, I just expected such an acclaimed record to offer me more than the 4 singles I already knew. A couple of very pretty transitional and interlude songs in there I liked a lot, but for the most part I think this album is, for one, PAINFULLY long, Billy and the producers should be shot after including 2 hours of music on this record. There's a very good reason not many bands do, if this record had ended on 1979 I would have walked away going "Not bad!" but instead I'm subjected to another 45 minutes of torturous nothings narrated by one of my least favourite voices in 90's alternative rock. I think a huge part of this listen was expectations, for such critical success, I just really don't see the big deal. I have read a lot about the commercialisation of the music industry and music journalism reaching it's height around this time being a reason, hipsters casting into the ever receding tides of 90s popular music trying to reel in something meaningful, large, poetic, and reeling in something, indeed large, gargantuan, but inedbile. There is just no helping feeling that 2 thirds of the album could be cut and the album would be much better.

Me gusto, pero algunas canciones muy metálicas. Disco doble eteeeeerno estoy entre 2 y 3 pero le pongo 3 porque esta piola igual

Im not listening to all of this. Stupidly long. The music isnt too bad but the infinite length detracts

As much as I can stand Billy Corrigan as person his music is amazing.

Was ein Brett

I can see objectively that this is a great album but I don't know that it's for me. I need to listen to it a few more times.

The highs, the lows. They hit the spectrum of emotion. This is still a solid listen.

4/8 Have heard of this album a lot. Now that I've listened to it, I find it just okay. Similar to OK Computer by Radiohead in that they are both extremely critically acclaimed but nothing really stands out to me. I'll have to give it a few more listens

it was okay...

yeah pretty. good. i get why its so famous. reminds me of a 2004 house party.

two hours of Billy Corgan's voice is hard to digest. while there are some good songs on the album like, "bullet with butterfly wings" and "Zero", the double album is just waaaaaay toooooo looooong. this is one of those where if they narrowed it down to one album, you would have a winner. full disclosure, i do own this album and probably the last time i listened to it was probably 1995. True Story: when i was at Kutztown, i was working at The Morning Call in the mail room. usually from 10:30 pm to about 5:00 am, or whenever the papers finished printing. So i would then go home, shower, eat breakfast, park at the store, grab a quick mug of coffee out of my snap-on mug, and go to classes. Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, i usually had a break from about 10ish to about 2. i would make my way up to the NAPA store, have lunch with Mike and Bruce, hang for a while, and about 1pm, go to the library, make my way up to the second floor, into the Russian section (which was huge, i believe one of the largest collections in the country). no one would ever go in there (it was a separate room). i would go in there, and take a nap with headphones on, listening to this album (first record) until i had to go to class.

The production of the Smashing Pumpkins always baffled me and made it hard for me to figure them out. Their heavy songs never sounded heavy because of the weird boxiness of their guitars and all the weird static. His singing is rough for me to get through. I think they r a hard rock band that just has some slower songs, and I guess that's why metal fans like them. As for this album, my freaking goodness it is WAY TOO LONG. It's not that there is much filler (kudos to them), it just starts to get a bit repetitive. The songs are well crafted.

Saw the Artist. Expected the worse, Got a little below average. So I guess it was a positive overall experience

Some really good tunes but a little too harsh for me at times

Double albums are obviously controversial because if you don’t like it then you’ve got a lot to sit through, but Mellon Collie hits for me the whole way through.

In theory I like The Smashing Pumpkins. In practice they're very hit and miss. Something about Corgan rubs me the wrong way. I'm not usually overly picky about vocals but sometimes I wish he would just shut up and let me listen to the music. I've had this album in my mp3 collection for 20+ years (thanks Jenny) and this is the first time I'm listening to it in its entirety (sorry Jenny). It's fine. The hard rock bangers are good. The drummer is sick with it. The ballads are completely forgettable. The stuff in-between is somewhat in-between. The lyrics kinda' suck. This won't be getting any full replays after today.

My first DNF. There were a few songs that were alright, but honestly, I think I wanted to like them more than I actually did. The style of vocals is really not my thing, either.

fuckin bad! 1!!!

Multiple Smashing Pumpkins albums means there are too many Smashing Pumpkins albums on the list. Frankly, one is too many. Maybe I like this album? Billy Corgan's whiny voice still irritates the hell out of me. There they are! Back to being a band I hate. Zero is terrible. Bullet With Butterfly Wings is one of the most overrated songs ever. His voice is inescapable. I bet Creed loves these guys. The less "rock" songs are generally better. I think I just don't like 90s rock. And maybe that's a hangover from living through it and being more into hip hop then. This album is better than Siamese Dream and not as bad as I thought going into it.

great album, unfortunely, after XYU, it has some boring fillers, but still a true classic.

Enjoyed this one much more than expected.

nice album, never listen to a full Smashing pumpkins album before but i like it, very 90's grunge vibe

wildly angsty and SO of its era.

I think that they were overly ambitious and just missed the Mark completely

I used to own this CD. One good song after another, mixing dreamy beautiful melodies with explosive energy. To me, it captures the mid 90s. Listening 30 years later, I'm impressed by the drumming (Jelly Belly, Thru The Eyes of Ruby). And yes Billy Corgan's voice is grating, but if you imagine a misunderstood Big Bird rockin' out it improves the experience. "I fear that I'm ordinary just like everyone"

His flat, nasal voice is sometimes a little too much, but overall good. Bullet with Butterfly Wings is one of those tragically overplayed songs that begins to lose a bit of appeal due to that overplaying.

This album is very long, but it manages to keep you enthralled for it's whole duration by providing a surprisingly diverse and versatile array of tunes that range from Heavy Alt Metal to Dreamy Alt Pop. It's a vast record with tons of great songs. Sadly, CD 2 loses me just a bit cause I never was a fan of Smashing Pumpkins ballads, at least not ones like these. It does get a bit too dreamy at the end for my tastes, still this album is absolutely worth a listen even if I do prefer Siamese Dream over this.

Emo daddies

Very much teenage radio music for me. It's fine, but I have never interacted with it on any real level. It's fine, if somewhat generic that late 90s-early 00s rock way? But considering when this album is from, I guess in this case they are the originators. Bullet with butterfly wings is iconic, the rest of the album is enjoyble enough.

Scweam

This has to be a nostalgia album for those in the 90's. I can see the ideas and what the Pumpkins are tryna do but honestly, much better bands have executed them better. Also sounds like the band is trying, but ultimately failing, to save songs from Bill Corgan himself. Consider this Pumpkin, smashed.

I'm not a fan of rock or any metal genre i used to like them but now it's a thing of the past so I would like it if you would pick other albums from other genre

this album was too damn long but it slapped lowkey

Favorite songs To Forgive By Starlight Really like the lyrics in By Starlight the melody it’s catchy and simple OBSESSED with To Forgive for sure a favorite smashing pumpkins songs. I love the guitar part Not many other songs stood out to me on a first listen but definitely could get into a couple more on a few more relistens but his voice just so damn silly

- once again, the gerard way of it all - cool instrumental title track - tbh i think it drags a little but the good tracks are really good - favorites: cupid de locke, mellon collie and the infinite sadness, 1979, - rating: 3/5

thank u smashing pumpkins for giving me my favorite pre-split panic! cover 😂 anyways i'm ngl a 2 hour long album is a bit egregious and i was checked out by the end of disc one notable: tonight tonight, zero, thirty-three 3.5/5

no es mi tipo de música, pero se lo recomendé a una amiga y le encantó, es una mezcla diversa de un rock no metalero, música relajante e instrumentales.

ok

The Smashing Pumpkins took a huge risk when they decided to release a double album, and I'm sure they didn't expect how much it would pay off. This is the band's magnum opus, and the crown jewel of '90s alternative rock, a multi-genre masterpiece that ranges from tender piano and orchestral ballads to screeching grunge riffs, from Floyd-esque art rock to new wave drum machines. It's a tome filled with stories of love, life, death, self-discovery, growing up, and infinite sadness. On first listen, you'll never guess what awaits you on the album, and that's its strength, making these epochal two hours fly by. I could go on and on about how magnificent this album is, but I recommend you don't waste your time reading it and just listen to it — it's the perfect introduction to the band.

I quite like this album. I had not yet listened to it due to its runtime but it remains a good listen. I think that it has better highs than Siamese Dream but it is too long for its purposes. 8/10 [KEEP]

This is the prototypical double-album that would have been a lot better if they just boiled it down to one disc. Neither the sound or the songwriting are varied enough to support two hours of music, so a lot of these songs just mush together in a wall of guitars and Billy Corgan's caterwauling. There's good music scattered throughout but it's a chore to listen to the whole thing to enjoy all of it.

Pretty alright. Not sure if I loved how long it was

Every double album is a failure in editing I'm glad I listened through this once but I think Smashing Pumpkins are going to stay a singles band for me. There are a lot of good singles, both from this album and their others, but they're sort of an abrasive flavor of rock. Needs to be spaced out a bit more. This would be a really solid 4 if it were the 5 singles + 5 other tracks. Instead, consider this a low 4.

I have a soft spot for bands with strings and singers with grating acquired taste vocals and a kind of operatic vision they probably aren't talented enough to meet but they're doing it anyway? (to an extent. like when you reach the point where you get My Chemical Romance or Panic! At the Disco then something has gone very wrong and I am off the train) the biggest problem with Mellon Collie, aside from the title and wrestling with the weight of how much you dislike Billy Corgan vs the understanding Smashing Pumpkins is Smashing Pumpkins in large part because Billy Corgan is involved, is that it's a double album. More isn't always better, especially when you're judging something as an album rather than just a disparate collection of music, and the score for this would be meaningfully higher if it were trimmed down to the good parts. Unfortunately I like this album quite a bit. unfortunately it is a million hours long and needed to be cut down considerably. either a high three or a low four depending on my mood when I press the rate button

Too long album to stay interesting.

My fave by the Pumpkins. Billy Corgan is a piece of work though, eh?

its good and i like it

I have already heard this album, brilliant

all the songs sound pretty similar but its still good fav song: Tales Of A Scorched Earth

did not finish. billy corgans voice.

I love them

Very good album, honestly it's timeless I think 🙌🏻 I used to listen to it when I was a teenager, definitely I will keep listening to it.

Raro pero está bueno

A really tough one to grade. So much here is exceptional. Also, by the back end of disc 2 I’m just exhausted. This is the Corgan experience in a nutshell, incredible, urgent, unique, touching rock; but also can’t self-edit. There’s a 13-track 5-star album somewhere within these 28 tracks. Disc one would probably be a 5 on its own. Disc 2 a 3.75, with “1979” and “Thirty-Three” as perfect tracks. It’s an experience for sure, and I’m deciding to be impressed with Corgan’s ambition, rather than worn down by it. A true classic.

не оч приятно 2 часа слушать это голос , сори..

Masse bangers men litt for mye weird shit

I was fortunate to be able to see The Smashing Pumpkins live with some friends Dan and Claire in Vancouver. Dan claimed they had an extra ticket to convince me to join them. Turns out once I confirmed I could make it. They just bought an additional ticket at the pub while we had supper. So the extra ticket was a lie but I was happy to join them either way. The extra ticket they bought me was in a seat near by and thankfully the seat neighbour was fine swapping with me. So I could sit with my friends. Turns out Claire is a die hard fan. So it’s always cool to get more details about an artist from a fan like Claire. I don’t think I would have ever called myself a large smashing pumpkins fan. But I did enjoy the show and this album.

Some of the songs were bangers. Some I found myself wanting to be over. But overall the vibe was really cool

Really enjoyed this, however, it is really long... but most of the songs are really good, I wouldn't say there was no filler... but still some top notch stuff. Big fan of the album art as well. 8.5/10

Good music, but some songs are a little too hectic for my ears

Really like this. I have to push past the synthesized orchestral sounds of track 1 - never a fan, but some great tracks on this double album. My tendency (as often is the case) is for the heavier tracks than the ballads. And maybe the second side of disk 1 is a bit wallowy for me. But peppered with great pick-me-ups. Could this be a shorter album? Maybe, but maybe would be too intense. 4 Number tracks 28 Fave track: Not really picked one yet. First to get a spotify tick was 4: Zero. But would need to listen a few times round to fix on this. Others: Lots, but on my feet and can't make a note of them.

Wonderful mix of punchy rock songs and soft songs. The distortion is a bit much on Tales Of A Scorched Earth. X.Y.U. is the only other song I didn't really like. Very solid album!

Why'd it take me so long to listen to this album in full?

Wären easy 4 Sterne, wenn der Knilch nicht singen würde. Wie ein ungeöltes Scharnier, ganz furchtbar.

Musikalisch ganz nett, aber Gesangstechnisch sehr unschön.

Nope. Wobei ich "Siamese Dream" besser finde.

Absolutely hated that rebellious rock for goody-two-shoes

Wasn't a big fan of the Smashing Pumpkins, but this record is great, awesome!

Fav songs - tonight, tonight, zero, bullet with butterfly wings, love

great just too long

Genial

Almost didn't make the 2* but could have been at least a 3* if it was at max 50% of the length. I usually don't mind longer albums, but the more songs you listen the more seem to be left...

First two songs I enjoy, after that I really can’t remember it.

Quite nice

It's a really well made album. I remember at the time feeling like, by comparison, it was so much "bigger" feeling than previous releases by them? I didn't care for it. While other albums were disparate and intimate moments this was some grand attempt at an experience and that wasn't what I was looking for. On its own merit it's just a really solid album.

Homer Simpson, smiling politely

No me gustó mucho el estilo..

6/10. Need to feel more vibes

this album was long as fuck and changed genres 20 times and took me all day to finally finish it and idek what i think about it bc it was so all over the place

The magnitude of this work alone is crazy. It's not the most cohesive album but it certainly has some stunning tracks.

An album that caused quite a stir in its time, I imagine, has a couple of standout tracks, but I think overall it's a bit flat. Lots of guitar distortion, and the drums sometimes seem overpowering for each track. Even so, it's not bad for an iconic 90s album. Maybe it's not entirely my cup of tea.

A very interesting album, as of halfway through. Half the songs seem ballad-y, with piano and orchestral elements, and the other half are very guitar focused. The distortion on a lot of the songs i’d very interesting and crunchy, and production is pretty unique too! Nothing to say that hasn't already been said about Billy Corgan’s voice, but I’m surprisingly impressed with the drummer. Great album, love the concept, but a little long for my taste.

By the end of the first album the rage felt forced, loved the disparity between the first song and the last, so many of these are my teenager “voice” songs.

Grote diversiteit aan nummers, origineel, vet geluid. Daarnaast als geheel sterk, maar wel wat aan de lange kant.

Billy Corgan is forgiven for all of his crimes because in the 90s he made like 200 songs and probably 100 of them are fully great and 60 more of them are good. I don't understand how nearly every single song on this is fantastic. He just had THE TOUCH. I also think this album is paced really well despite being very whiplash-y ('1979' into 'Tales of a Scorched Earth,' lol). My favorite album by one of my favorite bands (up through Machina, at least).

This one isn't fair because when it came out I was already a huge fan. I had spun Siamese Dream into the ground. So I was pumped and it didn't disappoint. So it's a bit nostalgic for me. I love how most of this double album is ballads but with many great heavy bangers. So much good stuff. I've always loved the wack-yness of "We Only Come Out At Night". And I love the concept of the entire thing. It has a beginning, middle, and end.

A solid classic from the 90's...Billy Corgan is an amazing and creative musical force....

I think i prefer latent Smashing Pumpkins in more bite- sized pieces

Would be awkward if I didn’t rate this a 5 right?

> the Beatles I have listened to a fair amount of Smashing Pumpkins over the year and always liked them, especially Corgan's vocals and the guitars, but never counted myself a fan, necessarily, in that I never owned an album of theirs. Also, I always get nervous about albums over 45 min and this is one of the longest on the list at just over 2 hours. That said, great album. Doesn't totally justify the length but I have no real complaints. Now for one of my favorite Simpsons jokes ever: Billy Corgan: "Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins" Homer: "Homer Simpson, smiling politely"

The album was good, with great vocals, and I enjoyed the guitar. Some lyrics felt a little too experimental for me, but I understand why other people like it.

Whiplash from the sudden change in mood, cathartic. Favourite tracks: Cupide de Locke and Bullet With Butterfly Wings

I didn't hope this album will be so soon. First thing first I LOVE this album. Cover perfect, instrumentals as well. Vocals are discussable, indeed, but I personaly love them. So many songs that are to this day masterpieces. Zero, Bullet with the butterfly wings, 1979, Tonight tonight,... Ofcours these are incredible but now my absolute favorites: Love, Cupid de locke, Porcelina of the vast oceans, Here is no why, Lily,... Everytime I listen to this album I find new thing I love albout it. I grew up with this album and its still holding on me.

You know, there are some great songs here. Billy Corgan is a good guitar player and a decent songwriter. He’s got a whiny voice, but that’s what we liked in the 90s. However, this album is too damn long. There simply isn’t enough variety or novelty or good humour to justify this length.

I was in high school when this came out and it just wasn't on my radar. I mean, the singles were...you couldn't escape them. I never bought the album though. It's really good...even great in parts. Somewhere between a 3 and a 4 for me. Double albums are always tricky...if you like the artist, chances are you'll love more of their work. If you're not a fan or indifferent to them, well, a double album can feel a bit bloated, self indulgent...and this trends towards that. I like the Smashing Pumpkins a little bit, but this was just a bit much for me. It's not bad, but having now listened to it all the way through 30 years later I don't think I missed a whole lot.

First time listening to The Smashing Pumpkins. Knew them only from name. Trying to expand my music taste :) Forma de cantar bastante inusual para lo que escucho generalmente, nuevo pero divertido.

2 damn hours

When I was younger I just decided one day that I did not like The Smashing Pumpkins without even listening to them seriously. It's a shame, cause an album like this would've hit me really hard if I gave it a chance.

Halfway through Disc 1 and I'm already tired of Corgan's voice. I like the bands moody, heavy rock style but they might be better in small doses.

Yep!

Fine, I guess. 2 hours runtime was a bit unnecessary. The sound was a bit all over the place, sometimes in a good way while other times just felt out of place. As with any 2 hour album there was a bit of filler in here.

Surprisingly enjoyable but too long

Excited to give this a relisten. When it came out I was somewhat receptive, but still thought Gish was the greatest album the gods had ever delivered to us, and that the newer stuff was getting a little too radio friendly. On "relisten", I realize I don't think I've ever heard the whole album lol. I like a lot of songs and it feels like you could curate a 4 star single album from the tracks, but at this length is an "almost 4" for me.

Arguably the magnum opus from an innovative band with exceptional talent. I guess the most telling think is that I remained enthralled from start to finish, which is rare for a double album.

Some good stuff on this double album - not just the hit singles but a number of deeper cuts

Low 4? Musically I enjoy most of it, Billy is kind of a dweeb and his vocals are grating more often than not. It doesn't feel like as long of a record as it is until the last couple tracks

I owned this double CD when it came out. I listened to it quite a bit, even if Billy Corgan’s vocals were and still awful. This album holds up for what it is, but I wouldn’t revisit it. It doesn’t make me cringe as much as some other albums of my youf, but it’s not great.

The best Smashing Pumpkins album. I know the ones before this are great but this is the peak.

this shits too long and the dude cant sing but somehow i find myself keep coming back to it

Great album, just runs a bit long

Sprødeste intro til et album med "Tonight, tonight" ngl Kæft jeg synes der er smæk for skillingen! Riff på "Zero" er så magisk! "An Ode To No One" rammer noget magisk! Ren horn på "Tales Of A Scorched Earth" og "X.Y.Y" >:-I Første gang jeg sådan rigtigt stifter bekendtskab med dette vidunderlige band og jeg må bare sige, at jeg er tæt på de 5 stjerner, men for nu må det blive til 4 gigantiske stjerner!

Always much more diverse and compelling than I remember it being. 4/5

A study in contradictions - submit for your approval, a very talented and ambitious yet conflicted and controversial young man. Skilled at concocting pop/rock riffs and music, yet relying on others to help bring his increasingly complex compositions to life while striving for his idea of perfection. For the first couple albums the Pumpkins made psychedelic-tinged arena rock, stuff that wouldn't be unheard of on AOR radio in the late 70s, updated for stoners and alternative kids in the 90s. The success of those albums emboldened young Corgan and he dreamed of a pseudo-concept album with two discs worth of songs. 28 songs! And just as many b-sides that were released on a whole other separate box set. A very prolific period for Mr. Corgan to be sure, but with quantity tends to come the possibility of loss of quality. A few of those lower quality tunes, highly polished or not, make it into this collection, like An Ode to No One, XYU, and Love - heavy, yes; angsty, you betcha; boring and cringy, oh yeah. But there are some pretty songs here if you can get past Corgan's deliberately punkish, nasally singing voice - Tonight Tonight, Thirty-Three, Cupid de Locke, 1979, Galapogos, and some of the second disc. Alongside the pretty songs are the belters - Here Is No Why, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, Jellybelly, Zero, Bodies. Musically, the drums, guitars, instrumentation, and performances are all dazzling. Chamberlin's drum skill and style is unique and is important to the Pumpkins sound along with Corgan's guitar work. An album with emo-ish rock songs balanced with prettier pop songs. An arrogant yet talented band-leader with a dubious singing voice, balanced with seasoned and skilled producers. An epic that mostly works with a few clunkers that don't.

The album when I realized I was no longer a teenager/the target market for a kind of rock music. Up until this point I was a gigantic Pumpkins fan. I had all the cd singles before Pisces came around, watched the Vieuphoria VHS tape almost daily, based some of my first song riffs around Corgan progressions, yet I was also a huge Pavement and Fugazi guy. Ultimately Fugazi won out simply because Ian and co weren’t assholes. But as much as I had grown suspicious of both Corgan and Malkmus by 1995, I still trusted their musical aptitude. And would continue to do so, as I continued on with Adore, BtC, etc. But I had peaked and there was simply no chance of regaining my youthful passion and obsession with the Pumpkins, I just didn’t know it until Mellon Collie came out. I still stand by some of the b-sides from 1979 and Zero, and there are a few songs scattered throughout MCAIS that scratch the itch, but the production, Corgan’s changing voice, and unfortunately, the broader palette - which I respect, go to it y’all! - all felt and still feels ill-fitting. Yet it was a huge success for folks just a little younger than me, a pattern I saw repeat with Daft Punk’s Discovery. This might define their 16 year-old sense of music just as much as Siamese did for me.

As someone who's enjoyed Siamese Dream since he was a teenager, it's high time that I check out the other big Smashing Pumpkins record. After touring for Siamese Dream, Billy Corgan immediately began writing songs for the next record. There was an intent to go for broke, writing a double album's worth of material, employing a wider variety of styles, working with different producers, and changing their recording process to simultaneously challenge themselves and eliminate the tensions of the last album cycle's sessions. The resulting record, Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, is certainly bold and a lot to take in. This is an emotionally volatile record, as Billy sought to explore what he called "the human condition of mortal sorrow". Apathy, fear, rage, spite, nihilism, isolation, temptation, anguish, disillusion, obsession - there is no sparing in the darker broodings. Between the heavier lyrics and tuned-down guitars, there is very little respite to be found outside of the fleeting hope on the title track and "Tonight, Tonight", the distancing from one's past transgressions on "To Forgive", the longing nostalgia of "1979", and the two tracks penned by James Iha, "Take Me Down" and "Farewell and Goodnight", that close out each disc with calm reflection. I don't think there's a bad or weak track across both halves, certainly with how good the singles are, plus other highlights to be found like the synthetic harp arpeggios of "Cupid de Locke" and the unbridled stomp of "X.Y.U.". Yet it can make for an overwhelming two hours, as themes and sonic palettes run together, particularly with how many songs on the second disc ruminate on love and Billy's past relationships. I'm sure it must have been cathartic for him to lay it all bare, and the rest of the band were able to compensate for what could be considered an ambitious work. Even if I prefer the tighter package of Siamese Dream, I can recognize how important Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness is in shaping the larger pantheon of alternative rock.

Had its great moments. Had other moments that were kind of “eh”. Billy Corgan’s vocals are always tough to stomach, even at his best. Solid album with some great highlights overall.

Disc 2 might be really selling me. I like the wistful even tempered songs like 1979. I hate when they go loud screamo. Need to re listen but 2 hours of songs god

Pre listening: love me some Smashing Pumpkins so Im excited to see what this album is like. Gorgeous album art 1995 1: consider me gagged at how gentle this first song is. Staying with the Piano so long is giving me melancholy which really sets the stage 2: soft still but more familiar rock 3: the ramp up expected of smashing pumpkins 4: meh dont like jellybelly 5: I like here is no why 6" AMAZING-we love bullet with butterfly wings and again 3.7 for me

This is a classic from the 90s. There's a lot of filler if you take the songs individually, but in the context of the album they somehow work.

Good but way too long, could only get through half

Really love the singles. Wasn't crazy about the rest honestly. X.Y.U. stood out. A lot more grungy than their other songs. 3/5

The last great Pumpkins album. I recall this being controversial at the time for its size. With double albums being reserved mostly for live recordings, Corgan's hubris had the lable sweating. It turns out he was able to churn out an incredibly solid effort. There is little to no filler on this one. The songwriting is cohesive and the self indulgence (so much self indulgence) often serves both the song and the ego. The scales tip to pure ego on the next few records. Side note, SP are in my top five worst concert experiences. See above notes regarding ego.

really glad i finally listened to this all the way through! of course, the singles and the songs i'd heard before went CRAZY hard (bullet w/butterfly wings and tonight, tonight), but i also found new songs i really liked (muzzle, porcelina, we conly come out at night). overall, 4!

Amazing!!

Why the fuck is this 2 hours long?

Good Album

Har altid haft svært ved at holde rigtigt af dette album, selvom der bestemt er en årsag til at det er blevet en klassiker. Favorite tracks: Tonight, Galapogos, Muzzle, Thirty-Three, In the Arms Of Sleep, Beautiful og selvfølgelig 1979.

Et par fine numre på, men det er sgu for langt.

*77 Hvis man kan klare det nasale, så er smashing pumpkins jo herre drenge. Man får lyst til at blive republikaner, drikke dårlige lager-øl i garagen og dødløfte ritti tungt.

Intet album er så godt, at det skal være over 2 timer langt. Jeg synes faktisk at det var ret fedt og nød store dele af det (med mest begejstring for del 2). Dog blev det lidt en orker at det skulle tage SÅ lang tid. det bliver 3 STORE stjerner

Selvom det er en af de helt store og grundlæggende alt-rock-udgivelser, så kan anden halvdel ikke hamle op med første, og det trækker ned på den lange bane. Derudover havde jeg lige glemt, at man faktisk skal indstille sig på Billy Corgans vokal. En såkaldt acquired taste

Det er fed! Der havde været plus-points hvis der kun var en disc 1

Thought I stepped on my cats tail when he started singing

3 A few great psychedelic tunes. You can hear the blues coming through.

Got through most of the double album. I hadn’t listened to their range. Not bad

Billy Corgan you bald headed asshole, its so hard to convince people to listen to this music if you make the album two hours long

Would be perfect if it was an hour and 5 minutes max

It was good but not good enough to be over 2 hours

The music is spectacular. I absolutely love when they rock out hard, which they do a lot, like on Zero. A minus is Billy Corgan’s voice with its distinct whine. I imagine the lyrics are pretty good—if this challenge has proven me anything, it’s that I really can’t decipher a lyric without having them in front of me, which I don’t do, which I’m sure diminishes a good 1/3 of the intended experience for me (well, depending on the artist.) Still, Smashing Pumpkins just brings an incredible ‘90s collage of sound. It’s ace. Took two days to get through the double album, but I’m going to give that a pass.

I've always thought this album was a bit too long, but it's overall really quite good. The last four/five tracks are like a fall of a cliff though, absolutely should've been cut.

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lead vocals are as bright and garish as a carbon arc lamp. when he shuts his mouth, there's some fun and interesting guitar work. the heavier songs are compelling despite the vocals, the lighter fare just falls flat.

still not a huge fan of Corgan's voice (or some of the lyrics) but goddamn, the guitar? too good.

What to make of this? Fair to say I came to it prepared to hate. I don’t like this genre of grungy whining 90s American alt rock at all. And when I found it on iTunes my first reaction to a 2:02 album was that I had to find the original rather than the bloated “anniversary deluxe” expanded edition released for super fans. But no. This was, in fact the original. I confess I wasn’t happy. What did Corgan need 2 hours to say when Lennon/McCartney/Harrison and Starr had had to contend with a 40 minute limit? But…. It’s good. It’s not all for me but overall it’s good. I don’t like corgan’s voice much but it works for these songs and he knows how to use it. Even the length- the quality doesn’t really drop for all of the two hours and you have to respect that. I also respect the vision even if I’m not totally on board with it. He’s taken a mighty swing at something special and even if he doesn’t quite nail it, there is honour in the attempt. It’s certainly true that he could have made an all time great album if he’d edited it down to 50 minutes and been more conventional but that feels like nitpicking; he was after something more than conventional brilliance. 4*

Better than Coldplay

i cant believe in this 2 hour huge album they were like "yeah let's put the hit 2/5 of the way down the 2nd half of the album that's what were gonna do". which sure, prob for the best as this album does drag (obv the length ain't helping) so yeah. if it was 20mins shorter i might of rated it higher.

What a boring double album, I was tired of his bland voice by the third track (I had 25 more songs to conquer). There's only so much of this particular kind of guitar work that I can handle before I start dreading everything. Honestly, it really made 1979 look like a 5/5 hit song, when it is like a 3 at best.

A lot of grandiose strings and swelling pieces.

Off to a good start met het eerste nummer. (Voelt aan als) classic: bullet with butterfly wings Ik zag er in het begin een beetje tegenop om als eerste album direct een album van 2u te luisteren. Maar het heeft zeker niet teleurgesteld. Al ben ik heel wat fases doorgegaan, maar dat lag niet echt aan het album maar eerder aan de setting waarin ik het album geluisterd heb. --------- (Heb op het werk geluisterd - Ik denk dat mensen mij nog nooit zoveel nodig hebben gehad als vandaag (: ) --------- Dat gezegd zijnde zaten er wel heel wat goede nummers tussen. Ik ben persoonlijk meer fan van de eerste cd dan van de tweede. Voelde als heel classic en goede diepe rock aan. Allee, anno 2026 voelt dit toch als classic aan ;) Dat gezegd zijnde kan ik wel inzien waarom dit als een klassieker/ een belangrijk werk beschouwd wordt. Verder dacht ik de naam van de artiest wel te herkennen. Maar daar bleef het dan voor de rest ook bij. Wil wel nog even vermelden dat ik de titel + artwork wel geniaal vind. Off to a good start, again ;)

Look now, this album was everything to 15 year old me almost 30 years ago. I thought relistening to it would have been cringe but boy was I wrong, it's fucking perfect and everything I said I'd give 5 stars to albums that I'd knife fight people over. Don't think I'd knife fight someone else over it, but I'd definitely knife fight myself so

Imperial Age excess and indulgence - with the tunes to back it up. It's easy to talk about the high points, as this has more belters than an average band's whole discography. The record also has obvious flaws - it's bloated, incoherent, poorly organised; another band with another producer would have concluded they had material for 2 solid albums, and a handful of b-sides to boot. But if you sit with it, it quietly turns those flaws into part of its strength: this is not one record, it's an overly ambitious, maximalist expression of a creative voice. Billy Corgan wants to show the world all he can do, and he'll leave no stone unturned in the process. Turns out, he can do a fair bit. Lush, emotional strings, fire breathing guitars, hazy layers of melancholy and urgency, beatle-esque winks and adolescent sneering rage. The sprawling incoherence of all this mashed together over two, long CDs could just be careless and boring, but it turns into an extended stay inside a pretty singular mind, in all its pretty and ugly facets; like reading through a year's of a messy, intense teenger's diary. But damn, this messy teenager can write a song.

Some of my favorite 90’s songs but overall not the greatest album. Some instrumental was so brash it hurt to listen to.

Overall not a fan. I was almost able to come up to a 3* because of some of the songs I recognized and liked, but so many of the songs were too slow for my taste, and the album had a lot higher concentration of ones I didn't enjoy because of the density of those

Toll, schöne Mischung aus fetzig und etwas entspannter. Interessante Stimme

When I think 90s album, this album art is one of those albums that pops up. Which is why I think it's a must listen but is it that good of an album? The album is actually pretty good but after 1979 the album becomes a real pain to go through. really don't like Spotify having allot of extra stuff in. I heard the hits and this album has the most of them in it but some tracks were really cool that i hadn't heard before.

Эти парни мои любимые, я их знаю хорошо и часто слушаю

I heard this album for the first time my freshman year of college, when I met my first friend there, Jerod. He loved the Smashing Pumpkins unabashedly, and it rubbed off pretty easily on me. I truly adore their biggest singles, especially 1979, Tonight, Tonight and Zero from this album. They certainly have an incredible debut here....and yet, I've never been a fan of double albums. It's to note that this was what I'd first heard from them, so it didn't feel as oppressive as other double albums often feel. It was just a lot of music all at once, to me. Now, 22 years later from first listen, I can say that I would listen to this plenty more if it was shorter. I'm more likely to cut off after the first album and never hear the back half. It's a shame, but sometimes you should just have albums split between the beginning and end of the year. That's not to say the Pumpkins did anything wrong here, I think that's more of a statement on the industry loving to pump big albums out if they have it. I can't speak to their timing, or Pumpkins' urgency to get all of this out at once, but like most double albums, it feels bloated nonetheless. As for the sound, it's always going to remind me of those nascent days at college learning my way around campus. It's so moody yet uplifting, melodic but uninterpretable. Beautiful, and a perfect title.

Could've done without some of the screaming songs like Tales Of A Scorched Earth, but Jellybelly was a surprise hit for me. I do think these double albums are a bit much to sit through but the music was good.

Considering I tend to change the radio station when popular Smashing Pumpkin songs come on; I was already not prepared for a 2 hour album session with Billy Corgan and friends. After the first song, I thought I might have a change of heart on these guys but Billy's voice is too much for me. When will this end? Help.

1.5

This was the first one I’ve gotten where it felt like a slog to get through. 2+ hours of song after song with a nasally/whiny voice is too much. Only a few saving graces in this. Likes: Bullet with Butterfly Wings, Galapagos, 1979

Let's first address the elephant in the room: yes, the album is too long. 2 hours of, at best, okay songs would be gard for anyone to sit through. Surprisingly I only felt the length towards the end, when the songs become more repetitive and boring. The singer's voice doesn't lend itself well to a whisper but a scream comes out just fine. All in all, it is up its own ass a bit too much but it's not the worst thing on here either. Best songs are Bullet With Butterfly Wings and We Only Come Out At Night. 5/10, mediocre.

When Kurt Cobain sang "teenage angst has paid off well, now I'm bored and old," I think Billy Corgan heard the first part and thought "what a great marketing strategy!" and zoned out during second part. Some of these lyrics are downright juvenile: "the world is a vampire," "love is suicide," "the king of gloom," "God is empty just like me" etc etc etc. Cobain had a rich sense of irony and was taking the piss out of the music industry, Corgan is dead serious in a really embarrassing way. There's a lot of good rock songs on this album, but it still feels bloated. Not because there's any serious amount of filler, but because the songs themselves are just packed with content. Almost every song has a hundred guitar overdubs plus synthesizers, keyboards, harp, orchestra, drum machines, etc etc etc. The epic grandeur of this album can be nauseating. This was clearly Billy Corgan's attempt to reach "rock god" status -- just look at the title and the artwork. He's obviously going for something baroque and "artsy," but it actually just sounds like an expensive album made by a guy going through a manic episode. Overall, I have mixed feelings. SP were my "favorite band" from ages 10-13 and this album was a big reason why. Their media blitz worked on me because modern rock radio was blanketed with at least 4 songs (Zero, BWBW, 1979, Tonight Tonight) around this time, so I knew my dollar would stretch far if I bought this (double) CD. And on relisten, I still enjoyed much of it. But I was also reminded that, by high school, I grew aware there was something very cringe about SP. Kim Gordon put it best: "Smashing Pumpkins took themselves way too seriously and were in no way punk rock."

I’m of the opinion that it is vanishingly rare for a double album to have enough good songs to justify stretching to a second disc. This is no exception. The highs here are absolutely great, but imagine if all the chaff was left for b-sides and there was one really solid album here instead.

Repeat listen

I love this album. It’s very rare I listen to the whole thing. It’s funny how well I know the first disc and how little I know the second. All around great album.

Good.

What an album! Definitely their best, so many hits!

Billy Corgan singing like his nose got pinched for two hours (word is, Billy still has his nose pinched to this day).

Mid

I love this album so much!!!

Amazing album. Not really my sort of thing but I can appreciate the complexity and depth of this album. Great lyricism.

ja

It was okay

Lots of big hits but a lot of a style I wouldn’t typically associate with the smashing Pumpkins. Nice to be exposed to the variety but like many double albums it did drag a little (although less than I would have expected). Nostalgia bump for this one

There's an absolutely stellar 5-star 12-track album in the midst of this 2 hour monstrosity. I recall spending probably a day's wages of student work money on this the day it came out in the Fall of 95 and not sure I ever listened to all it the way through since then. There's some stinkers but the highs - 1979, Tonight Tonight. and Bullet With Butterfly Wings - are so g-damn high that I'm giving this five stars in spite of the very excessive filler.

I had steered clear of this one for a while because of a number of bad reviews, especially about the length of the album and about the tone. So I was surprised to find that I quite enjoyed it. Perhaps my expectations were dulled. I knew several of the tracks already, which helps, and I found a few others that were new to me and have entered my permanent collection. That said: the album is still way too long. I'm not sure I've ever truly loved a double album - I don't get why bands don't just save up the spare material, and if they still believe in it six months later then bang, another album is ready to go.

al right too calm for me,a dn a litlle old

Too much of a good thing

This is a masterpiece.

First things first, I really had no choice than to play this as background music while gaming, due to its lengthy runtime. I don't have the patience to sit and thoroughly listen to its entirety. If it was possibly condensed to fewer tracks, I'd have more thoughts to share. Nothing really piqued my interest except the band's guitars and drums. I've heard "1979" before. An okay track that gives off a nostalgic feel. One thing I can conclude is that I'm not much of a fan of Billy Corgan's vocals. Very whiny and weird. Anyways, I don't have a deep opinion on this album, don't hate it or like it.

I don't know why so many people say this is their best work or their greatest album. I found it to be lackluster.. it did have a good emo rock type of vibe I for sure liked Siamese Dream better. I'm still not sure if I'm totally into this band or not lol. 2.5/5 for me

Holy balls this album is so good. At first I was caught off guard with the fact this album was 2 hours long, but I enjoyed every bit of it. The transition from the rebellious loud tracks at the beginning to the dream-like melancholy (lol) songs at the end was beautiful. My favorites were probably Here Is Why and An Ode To No One, but all the songs were solid. 1979 is a hit for a reason and Farewell and Goodnight was a beautiful ending. 9/10.

An unfortunately short review today as I was an idiot and didn’t start listening to this two hour album before 10pm. Overall was quite a good listen aside from the usual Pumpkins whinyness. Will give it a 4/5 ⭐️ and may come back to it later and give it the listen it deserves. 60/1089

Good but too loomg

I liked Cherub Rock and this album has elements of it but no one song stood out and whoa double album distress as too long and lost concentration.

One of the best albums ever.

This started well. First couple of instrumental tracks were accomplished and made for good listening. However, most of the album is pretty dire - noisy and unremarkable.

I wouldn’t really call myself a fan of The Smashing Pumpkins. I’ve heard some of their stuff before, thought it was alright, then moved on. Still, I went into this with an open mind, listening to each disc over two sessions (which definitely helped me at least somewhat forgive the long runtime). There’s a lot I like here. The intimate, stripped-back moments contrast nicely with the heavier alt-rock tracks, and at its best, it really delivers. That said, even after spitting it into two listening sessions, I still thought it overstayed its welcome a fair bit. Overall, I think 4 stars is pretty generous.

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Pretty pretty pretty good

Difficult to rate, as it's a very long album and I rarely listen all the way through in one sitting. However, I really love the five singles from this album, and their respective music videos, and the EPs that accompanied each single. There are also some other tracks (Love, We Only Come Out At Night) that I really like from each CD. My parents had this CD, I think it was one of the last pieces of then-new music they purchased. There is an enormous amount of nostalgia tied up in this one.

Truly a classic of the era. I didn't realize this had all my favorite Smashing Pumpkins songs. I didn't really listen to this a ton when it came out (my loss!) - just the hits - so I don't quite have the nostalgia factor that would push it to 5 stars.

I had a friend in college whose favorite band was The Smashing Pumpkins. My awareness of them was limited to their goofy band name and the fact that they misspelled “melancholy.” I heard about 15 seconds of Billy Corgan singing and decided I couldn’t get past his harsh, pinched voice. Up until now, that was the only intentional interaction I’ve had with The Smashing Pumpkins. But I got this album today, and was excited to give them another chance. In college, I was a needlessly judgmental music major (undergrad insecurity mixed with narrow pop exposure). My tastes have developed significantly, my opinions have developed much greater nuance, and my ears appreciate different sounds now. My god, I loved this. A tour de force of songwriting, an exceptional mishmash of genres, an expertly curated collection of sounds, tones, and production. Billy Corgan’s voice is certainly not pretty, but it works. It suits the songs, and as the album wears on, I’d find myself appreciating his vocal performances more than I’d ever imagined. A new favorite, and one that enters the pantheon of great discoveries from this project.

From '93 ish and for a good few years, the Pumpkins were my favourite band. By the time this was released, I knew _Siamese Dream_, _Pisces Iscariot_ and _Gish_ inside out. and I remember being so excited for this coming out. When it finally did, I took my copy up to my room and sat on the bed listening to it in its entirety whilst doing nothing else but reading the lyrics and the inlay. I was mesmerised... in another world... for two hours! And soon after I knew this inside out too.... and despite not listening to it really for a good while... I still do. Rather than being turned off by its sprawling nature, it's volatility and it's obvious pomposity, it only made me love it more. It's excessive, uneven and indulgent and that's why I love it.. .the messiness feels human. Perhaps this hit me at the perfect time, a 16 year old full of adolescent self-importance, confusion, rage, romanticism and despair. It felt like a diary written at maximum intensity. If it were tighter and more curated, it might lose that sense of sincerity. In short, it's a brilliant album because of it's imperfections and not despite them. I've had many favourite tracks from it but after a long absence, it was perhaps one of the most obvious that hit me and it goes to show exactly why it helps to have a really fucking good dummer!

Spooky

Just an incredible album start to finish it feels very of its time but a perfectly preserved time capsule of emotion and feeling through the 90's. Once of my favorite albums.

you really can have too much of a good thing

Ya ya Billy Corgan kinda went off the deep end in the last few years but the Smashing Pumpkins older albums are still pretty great

I dislike the vocals, but musically there are a lot of good things here. Sadly it is yet another bloated double album and my religion forbids those from receiving a good scores.

The album is not too long, it came out in another time when acquiring new music was not yet completely trivial. You got the album because you wanted to have it, and you were interested in spending some time with it, to be present with the music. And when you went to see the show you weren't there to record it for likes on social media, you were there for the experience which took place in that moment, and not later when you got some external validation. And you never lost the ability to do that, you just got distracted by shiny gadgets. You can reconnect with your true lived experience right now and be present in this moment. Why not give it a try?

Good songs, vocals like nails on a chalkboard

This one is tricky to rate. The album sounded awsome and it had loads of good songs in it. Corgans singing is an oddball. On some songs it fits perfectly and on some it is really hard to listen to. Also I get they wanted to make a huge album but... 2+ hours? For me this was too much especially as some of the songs felt a little like fillers. As it is the album is still a good album with awsome songs so solid 3/5. I have to try and give this another chance at some point (when I can spare 2 hours to go through the album) and see if the album climbs up to 4/5. Hard to pick best song as there were few candudates but I am going to say Jellybelly.

really like some of the songs on here. A bit long, and doesn't hold as much nostalgia for me. Some of the tunes are top tier!

Too fucking long.

This was too long, should’ve cut half the songs

26/02/2026 *1. mellon collie and the infinite sadness - not looking forward to this album.... said i wouldn't dnf any album, but reallly contemplating it lol. two hours!!!!! like the strings... really nice as it's going on actually. a lot gentler than the other album on here. 2. tonight, tonight - really liking the strings again! still don't like the vocals again. too whiny..... *3. jellybelly - sounds more metal.... like the guitar though! emo lyrics.... drumming is great!! really love the sounds at the end! 4. zero - already know this one. remember loving the sound, but the lyrics put me off so much that i stopped listening to it... vocals aren't bothering me so much on this one, don't know why! just got to the last verse and take it back. *5. here is no why - bit slower... his voice reminds me of a grungier brian molko.... tooo whiny and american :( not grating me as much as the other album... need to compare afterwards? liking this one a lot more so far. *6. bullet with butterfly wings - already know the chorus of this? vaguely know the rest of this. immediately less whiny. imagine it'll start soon. lyrics are a bit cringey. don't like when he screams.... love how crunchy the guitar gets!!!! feel like i am frying my ears <3 7. to forgive - love the organ. backing vocals make it sound less whiny. nice :) 8. an ode to no one - not massive on this one. kindof started liking it and the tempo has changed..... not massive again. making me work on sending off my portfolio (again!!!!), silver linings...... 9. love - more electronic... not a fan *10. cupid de locke - harp!!! liking this one so far... reminds me of alice in wonderland for some reason??? spoken word? reaaaaallll nice!!! 11. galapagos - love the shoegazey instrumentals.... like a song from a gregg araki movie...... really lovely. 12. muzzle - nothing to say lol, not my thing again. 13. porcelina of the vast oceans - more subdued... really loving it about a minute in, but still got eight more to go lol. just got loud.... don't dislike it, but was enjoying the peace. not as big a fan of the louder bits and zoned out towards the end, but really enjoying the dreamier songs on here. *14. take me down - different vocalist?? realllllly loving it without the really whiny voice <3 really sweet lyrics as well. gorgeous :) 15. where boys fear to tread - onto the second album! had a quick break in between.... liked the riff during the chorus, especially towards the end 16. bodies - getting very sleepy now.... still 12 songs to go!!! don't like the screaming vocals in the chorus. reminds me of metal vocals..... 17. thirty-three - immediately more dreamy.... still not a fan of the vocals. reaaaalllly loved the one song that wasn't whiny :( 18. in the arms of sleep - not big on this one, but wouldn't complain if it was in the background :/ over this album now.... so long.... *19. 1979 - didn't realise i'd heard this one before! liking it so far... less whiny than most of the other songs. 20. tales of a scorched earth - louder. not a fan. reaallly not a fan oh my god. very emo. waaaayyy too screamy for me :( 21. tru the eyes of ruby - begging this man to shut up oh my actual god. why is this song and album so long. losing the will right now. liked the dreamy ending. 22. stumbleine - aarrhg. really thought this album would change my mind on the smashing pumpkins after the first few songs, but it's gone downhill again. 23. xyu - please stop screaming..... mary had a little lamb bit is very im14andthisisdeep. do not like metal music and this takes far too much influence from metal for me....... like the screeching at the end. 24. we only come out at night - electronic again... not big on the more electronic songs so far. this is reminding me of that godawful quirky white stripes album....... 25. beautiful - not liking the start of this. if you got rid of the second half, i don't think it would affect the album much! really not enjoying this anymore. not a fan of the beat or the tinkling sound. 26. lily (my one and only) - reminding me of the shit white stripes album again. too twee. 27. by starlight - like the fade in. guitar is nice.... still realllllly don't like the vocals 28. farewell and goodbye - so glad this is over!!!!! my thoughts on this are up there i am not spending anymore time on this am going straight to bed...........................

Pac smashing pumpkins

I was big into Gish, Siamese Dream, and Pisces Iscariot, but I had moved on by the time this one came out. I was wondering whether I might find a new appreciation, but this was really a lot of listening to confirm that 1979 is still an all time great tune. Sure, there's a some other fine songs, fun guitar tones, strong playing, but like most double albums, what this needed was to be an LP.

Lovely but it does go on. Occasionally repeats

Amazing. Took me back to my salad days - the 90s

very nice! liked most of the songs. 4.

side b surprisingly good. good finale. long run time grungey

I thought this was okay when it came out, but I really enjoy it now. Excellent song writing, Jimmy Chamberlin shines. 2+ hours is a lot of Smashing Pumpkins, but it works.

I usually like rock but there’s something about this album- not sure what, that does not make me want to listen to it again. Songs i liked: Love, Take Me Down,

I hadn’t listened to this since high school but all of the reasons I liked it then apply to why I like it now lol

The album as a whole is heavier than the main singles you hear on the radio. That doesn't make it better, just an observation. Billy Corgan's voice is not something I enjoy listening to and this is a LONG album. That being said, I found myself nodding my head at times to the heavy grunge feel.

Some of my favorite songs ever came from this album.

Reading the notes on this album I was really interested to listen to it, and I thought the music was good. But the screechy lead singer’s voice is a no.

My favorite band from my 20's even though I only really love their first album (Gish) and half-like their second (Siamese Dream). I've probably heard 30% of this one before now ... really liked it. I sort of have to give it 5 stars but get why people would not.

There’s just so many great songs on here, even though not all 2 hours is excellent, I can’t not give it 5/5. Others will say it’s too long of course, but I can’t overlook the quality of it.

A really solid album, but it could stand to be cut down a bit. If they cut down some of the filler felling tracks, it could be a five star, lcloser to the length of Siamese dream.

Album is okay. Could have done with half the songs. Only gave it a three for the album art. Otherwise I would rate the album a two.

This one just didnt do it for me

I think most double albums ( butnot all) would work better as a trimmed down, focused single album. So a triple album is just too much. Definitely a case quantity of over quality for me. Some amazing songs with a lot filler in between

First time listen but I've listened to disc 1 a few times Surprisingly doesn't feel too bloated for a double album. The classics are mostly front loaded but there's a lot of stuff on the second disc that I really enjoyed Was definitely ready for it to be over by the last couple songs, but the ratio of hits to misses is pretty great for a two hour album Fav tracks: Zero, An Ode to No One, 1979, X.Y.U. Least favourite: Cupid De Locke, Galapogos 4.5, leaning 5/5

The great wall of sound. A for effort, love the artwork and the structure of the album. Vauge concept and focus on quantity over quality, along with the extended runtime, drags it down a quite a bit.

Listened many times – great album.

This is a classic!

The hits are the hits. No diamonds in the rough on this one. Bullet with Butterfly wings rips and 1979 is beautiful. Zero is pretty good. Nothing else really sticks out. I saw these guys in 2022 and Jane’s opened for them. Jane’s was way better.

Really fun to explore this one all the way through. However, I think it over stayed it's welcome after a little while. That said, there's such a range here. What a treasure

Great album

On of my all time favourites.

Goede muziek, zingt iets te nasaal voor mijn smaak.

favs: tonight, tonight bullet with butterfly wings galapogos 1979 thru the eyes of ruby we only come out at night beautiful farewell and goodnight rating 1.5/5

The 90s really were a great time to be a bald frontman (Stipe, Maynard James Keenan, Moby, the guy from Live) and Billy Corgan certainly sits in that pantheon. It could do with a bit of trimming given the two hour runtime but most of the music here is great.

Has a bunch of bangers, but not sure i’d listen start to finish again

It's not perfect, and it's probably a bit long, but it's an excellent album that I can't rate as a 4. The first six song stretch is legendary and there's lots of deep cuts

Eins meiner allerliebsten Alben aller Zeiten. Von vorne bis hinten grandios, stilistisch extrem bunt und ständig wechselnd zwischen den schönsten zartesten Balladen und brutalsten Brettern mit Höllenproduktion. Das angejazzte Drumming Chamberlins ist extrem stark ("Jellybelly"!) und die Gitarren haben diesen typischen Hummelsound. Das Trio ab "We Only Come Out.." ist vielleicht ein wenig albern, aber auch eine schöne Erholungspause nach dem bitterbösen "X.Y.U.". Mit Abstand mein liebstes Album der Band, dagegen ist das tolle "Siamese Dream" fast schon generisch.

Too long, but also a lot of good riffs and heavy songs. A little too dark for me though for repeat listening.

God, this was a tough one. Over two fucking hours. I had another SP album previously, which I thought was poor but this really takes the cake. This one is pretentious on every level. I’m conscious they were popular, and in terms of musicality they were good at what they did, but this is absolutely none of my business. With that in mind it gets a two. I feel I’d be being petty if I gave it a one. Not for everyone. Overrated and flaccid.

The album is long but there’s so many good songs

I didn't realize how long this album was. This could've been two.

One of those “this meant a lot to me” albums that might be the worst type of music journalism/criticism. Equivalent to hearing someone talk about their dreams. It’s a five star for me, no need to say why other than “it just is”

The 2nd half kinda tapers out but it’s still a great experience

6.8

Has some good songs, but waaaaaay to long for what it brings.

Lowk pretty wiggagagahaha

Going into this album, I didn’t really like the Smashing Pumpkins. And seeing that the album was 2 hours long, I was overwhelmed. I listened to it on the bus ride to class, while waiting for class, walking out of class, eating lunch, waiting for my next class, then i listened to them walking home. The album justifies its length, and I’m glad I got to listen to it

Mijn ding niet, behalve een paar trage liedjes vond ik het maar meh

8/10

Not for me

I forgot how long this album was. It would have been better served as 1 disc as opposed to 2. Some great songs but bloated and overdone much like Billy Corrgan.

Billy Corgan is talented

A bit long for my taste but still packed with some epic 90s tunes some over played, some not played enough

Despite all my rage I'm still not that into the Smashing Pumpkins

Love this album! "Despite all my rage, I'm still just a rat in a cage!" Who hasn't felt that angst in their own life?

It was very good

This album is undoubtedly one of the most insane things I’ve ever heard. It’s a fair bit bloated, but a good majority of these songs are really solid. There’s still over an hour of this album that’s 9/10 or 10/10, even if there are some stinkers in there (Stumbleine, Cupid De Locke, Take Me Down, pretty much every song after XYU). The Pumpkins explore a vast array of different styles and sounds: everything from fast and furious metal to soft and luscious psych rock. The highlights for me are mostly the aggressive shredders like Jellybelly, Zero, Ode to No One, Bodies, Scorched Earth, and XYU. Other highlights include Here Is No Why, Eyes of Ruby, Where Boys Fear to Tread, and To Forgive, which all bring something unique to the table that’s pretty awesome. There are also some kind of like baroque pop songs that really don’t land very well, but thankfully there aren’t too many. At these points, the album feels a bit disjointed, but honestly I feel that this is minimized as much as possible over the rest of the tracklist. If you’re not a big Pumpkins fan, then this album is almost certainly torture for you. But if you are, there’s a lot of gold hiding this incredibly impressive tracklist.

下载中的碎碎念： 这专辑也太长了，两个小时！ 不知道文件要多大，24-96的。 2.6G！！！ ------------------ 现在是第四首，zero 感觉渐入佳境，合成器/失真效果用的不错。吉他等乐器给人的感觉是平铺开的，比较营造背景氛围。 上半张听完，印象是，这张专辑比较精致，雅，不像我印象中的摇滚一样粗糙。 ------- 下半张听睡着了，感觉没有上半张精致 ------ 第二天早上听过之后：下半张确实没有上半张精致！

Okay

Has some good songs, but I could have done with half of it

Bad almbum

Somehow could not bear to use my finite, fleeting time away from my actual life responsibilities to face this two-hour behemoth from 1995 on the day it was assigned to me. Now sick at home and feel obligated (I mean, I did sign myself up for this), so here I am. What I found is that this album is kind of like, I don't know, that movie Drive My Car or something: you don't feel the minutes as much as you think you will, and by the time it's over, you're convinced you would've sat for even more. I remember this being a classic among the older kids when I was growing up that never quite filtered down to me, or so I thought until I got to "1979," a song that had evidently been perfectly preserved deep, deep in the recesses of my brain for the better part of the past three decades and which hearing now felt every bit to me like a reunion with a childhood friend whose face I had forgotten. The radio used to be powerful! But what a funny memory that I realize now was quite formative to what moods and sounds I would come to like in music, even if I never connected it to the source in all that time. My unoriginal observation is that the lead singer's voice is nigh unlistenable in that way you just have to learn to accept where love isn't possible, because the band is operating at such a high level across the board that it all more than comes together. Sometimes it's nice to listen to something that you can hear in every note would've absolutely rocked someone's world to experience in a time before yours. I liked it in spite of myself, and I can see it worming its way into my heart and my head like it might have back then, some twenty or thirty years late.

Amazing!!!!!

Good alternative group from the 90’s. Good sound, and music.

I loved Siamese Dream when I was growing up. But I never got into this album when it came out. I like it but it's long. Feels like it could have been heavily edited to make an amazing album.

So long but so good

I'm totally failing to understand why we need three Arcade Fire albums on this list if we have the more string/piano-focused songs on this album. These guys even have the crappy singing, but Billy Corgan's voice is at least interestingly crappy, unlike Mr. "my wife left me after I sexually assaulted four people that were half my age on tour." Arcade Fire hate aside, this is an amazing record. It's always impressive when 2 hours of music manages to stay good for its entire runtime. It has some really amazing songs and the album as a whole feels like it gets better as it goes on. I like all the random directions the album follows. There are some acoustic songs, followed by some metal, even an industrial rock song thrown in there somewhere, and it all sounds great.

Great angsty fun