Siamese Dream

Some of my favorite songs are from the Pumpkins, but I never tried to listen to a whole album. So I was looking forward to this, but surprised to find that I REALLY dislike most of their songs. But when they get it right, they really do get it right! Disarm is a standout songs. Soma, Mayonnaise, and Spaceboy are also good.

It's been an age since I listened to this album. Admittedly my older sister was more of a fan of it than I was, but I spent a lot of time riding around in cars driven by her with music selections by her. Disarm, Today and Cherub Rock got a lot of radio play so those were more familiar to me than the rest of the album as I assume is the case with most. I think Disc One of Mellon Collie got more play. Anyhow, enough backstory. This sounded very much like Smashing Pumpkins to me. Their sound to me is as distinct as a fingerprint. I like that sound, generally. I don't go crazy for it, but it is good. The mix of Corrigan's vocals, Iha's guitar sound and Chamberlin's drums is a great mix. I'd put this into rotation again, get familiar with it again and revel in the nostalgia of being a passenger in a 1980s chevelle with a spray paint primer paint job in a cloud of Marlboro Light smoke wondering if I'll ever be as effortlessly cool as my sister. Spoiler, still trying to catch her.

I've heard a number of these songs before, but never really followed the Pumpkins. Perfectly good grunge, if nothing mindblowing; some very cool riffs (I liked "Geek U.S.A." a lot), though the vocals aren't as powerful as my personal grunge favorites. Good production, too, especially on the sinister "Silverfuck".

Some rocking numbers are kinda OK, but mellower ones are really annoying

No denying this album is a cornerstone of US alt rock. I love the guitar tone and wall of noise on the louder tracks (cherub rock, geek USA) but some of the quieter tracks drag a bit for me.

I particularly liked "Rocket", "Soma" and "Silverfuck". 3.5/5

뭐라 쓰지

A dream involving Siamese twins.

3,5

6/10 - just before my time but has some good indie rock songs, Disarm is a highlight

Chill rock

no es mi tipo pero me gusto 3/5

Great production and rocks hard. Nearly a great rock album. Just a pity about the vocals. They come close to ruining it. Overall just about a 3.

Forgot thy were cool

I’d heard the name The Smashing Pumpkins many times before, but this was probably my first time actually listening to their music. It’s a bit too heavy for my taste, although I don’t question that it’s a good album. It has several strong highlights. 6/10

I’m honestly not sure why, but I have never listened to the Smashing Pumpkins. I have heard a few of these songs over the years, and I’ve had a few people recommend them to me, but for some reason, I never found them intriguing enough to seek out. Having finally sat down and listened to Siamese Dream, it didn’t exactly blow me away. It's not bad, I don't dislike it, it’s a solid alternative album, and the guitar playing in particular was phenomenal, but Billy Corgan’s singing did start to get to me by the end. Again, it's not bad, it's just not something I really want to spend an entire album with and I don't foresee myself returning to this in the future.

Sounds like mcr and a summer evening

I confess a soft spot for the swing for the fences high drama of (some of) these songs. The thick deep guitar sound these guys get, coupled with the angsty catharsis they aim for, is pretty great. The album is too long, but calling the Pumpkins out for excess is missing the point.

This was my early 90s—I bought this cd at the Tower Records at 86th St in NY. It holds up okay—the better songs still boast an impressive guitar wall of sound and their hooks are intact. But the album needed an edit—some songs are pretty forgettable; indeed, I had forgotten them.

It's not my type of rock and i didn't like it so much but it has a few interesting songs

I liked this :D

Some generational songs on this record for sure - Cherub Rock, Today, Disarm. I had never heard Mayonaise before but apparently it's massive and those pinch harmonics at the start are sick (and kinda funny? lol). My first guitar teacher was obsessed with the Pumpkins, his fav band (named his son Corgan), and I definitely had a bit of a phase with them but few of their songs really hit me. Sick fuzz guitar tones all over the place which is sort of their signature thing (I think they have a signature Big Muff?). Billy Corgan's voice doesn't annoy me exactly, but after a whole album I felt a bit numbed. I listened to most of it on a run which was a pretty good environment. I just have a harder time connecting with this era of rock music, it's not old enough to feel seperated by time to me - it's just kinda what my sisters GenXer friends loved so my brain lumps it in with Pearl Jam. Not a bad album. Cool band name lol

I know this album gets a lot of hate but I still find it entertaining and is a solid c+

an album only a millennial could move

хороший альбом, но мне не очень нравится вокалист группы. музыка очень крутая, но вокалист для меня как будто поет очень одинаково что ли, голос со временем надоедает. в целом альбом хороший, но не мое. 6/10 для меня

[small change after reslistening] Grunge is back on the menu boys. Heavy dark guitar riffs. "tortured" music has to walk the line between sounding insufferably whiny and cathartic. This record walks that line reasonably well and I can imagine many a teen in the 90's listening to this stuff on their way to school. It also helps that the singers voice, although high and nasaly not too much on the forefront. The mix is very clear in general. The drums and bass really jump out, which is in my experience pretty rare in this genre. It's kind of impressive that they have managed to get such a clear sound while still sounding grunge-y. It's good for a grunge record, but I don't like grunge. 7/10

Oh boy I’m right back in my college dorm.

Siamese Dream de The Smashing Pumpkins, sinceramente, no estuvo mal. No es mi género favorito, pero pude escucharlo sin aburrirme ni sentirme demasiado sobreestimulada. Le doy un 3 porque hubo canciones que no necesariamente me gustaron.

Okay mid 90s fare

Good, very 2000s indie. Nothing to write home about for me but good.

The soma

When you hear the good in this album it's borderline shocking. Starts out with one and Cherub Rock, but just like Melon Collie it drags (thank god not nearly as long). Guitar tone rules. Feels like a 4 but i think Billy Corgans creepy vibe drops a star.

No es mi genero favorito pero debo admitir que surnan muy bien

Very simple disc, the disc is the most commercial

я так и не поняла. ниче не произошло

Meh. I don't worship at the altar of Billy Corgan. There are some decent songs on here, but Gish was their best work.

It didn’t really connect with me overall, I liked a couple of the songs but I wasn’t sold.

Würde 3,5 geben. Werde ich mir irgendwann wieder anhören, aber war beim ersten Mal nicht wirklich hooked.

hadnt rly engaged w the smashing pumpkins prior but enjoyed more than i thought but not a ton

Eh

Not for me but I totally get it. Some amazing guitar playing and even through all the chaos and noise Corgan has an obvious ear for songwriting

Three stars because Billy Corgan is a total wanker

it all kinda sounds the same; some nice Guitar Hero nostalgia though

Muy rockero pero me gustó bastante

Good songs

Ok and at times a good album but for me some of the songs felt too long which holds it back from getting a 4/5.

Me gustó bastante, no me lo esperaba y algunas canciones me hicieron acordar a la onda de los red hot

Too vanilla for me. Not grunge enough, not Deftones enough, ... But a watered-down version of the two.

Music still holds up, love Cherub Rock but am not the biggest fan of the vocals.

This is not a band I have listened to much at all. I checked my last.fm stats - I’ve been scrobbling tracks as faithfully as possible since 2007 and I listened to more Smashing Pumpkins tracks today than I have in the preceding 18 years. Two tracks in 2016 followed by five pumpkinless years. A single pumpkin smashed in 2021, 2 in 2023, 1 in 2024, none last year, and now a whopping 13 tracks. It’s fine. Their heyday was my time in the musical desert - I didn’t like new music older was being released, it seemed like radio was garbage, and the internet wasn’t quite well-established enough to be a good route for discovery. All of this to say it was fine.

a classic but grunge is unf not my thing, may need another listen highlights: geek usa rating: 3/5

Some good guitar solos. Not bad but didn't really grab me as some rock albums do

Was initially not having fun but then the album sort of changed my mind so that’s a plus. Still unsure if the interesting stuff outweighs the uninteresting stuff - maybe worth another listen

Talented, yes. Enjoyable, yes. But why can I only take this band in small doses? Is it the over fuzzed guitars? The nasal whine? The repetitive formula of every song? Yes.

good but not my style

la verdad no es mi estilo pero tiene algunos temas nuevos

good

Ik denk dat ik gewoon niet genoeg van dit album ken om hier een hoge score aan te kunnen geven (nostalgie-gewijs). Niet echt mijn ding.

Not too shabby

Not terrible but also not my style. Grunge has never really vibed with me and this was no exception.

I’ve seen this album everywhere but only knew like one song from it, excited to hear more ! The guitar is SO GOOD. Fav song is ‘Today’.

Riffs yes vocals no

better than i expected!

Suprised that I didn’t like this more

Already have listened to this album

I can't lie, my heart was absolutely in my boots at the prospect of returning to whinging Billy Corgan and his artless dweebs, but actually I think this was basically OK I suppose. Not good, or enjoyable, but not totally without any worth at all. It is really odd to me that it's held up as a totem of alt-rock (whatever that means). It could not be more generic if it tried - overblown guitars, faux-intellectual lyrics and just no sense of fun whatsoever. I'm talking myself into lower marks here, but it can cling onto the lowest possible three.

At first I thought it was for me. Then decided it was not for me. But not for me in a not bad way.

Pleasantly surprised by this. A wall of scuzzy noise guitar but underneath some lovely melodies. Will revisit in the future as I think it is a grower.

Grungy, Alt rock

It was a classic. I’ve heard “today” so many times And I know all the words because of my dad

This is a slower style of Alternative that is less "punk" and not my favorite, but I see how this was pushing rock music forward at the time. Some good songs, but they blend together as there is a similar sound throughout the album.

not bad, dreamy atmospheric rock kinda thing. ytb algo led me to discover Fade into you by mazzy star which i thought was an even better listen in the same sort of genre

this has today which is my favorite smashing pumpkins song which is not a hard choice because I do not like the smashing pumpkins

I wouldn't say I dislike them, but I find it hard to give them a high rating. I've always had the impression they sound like the Pixies, and it seems that intuition was right (meaning it’s hard to accept the vocal)

Fine

1er album de ce périple. Je n’écoute pas tellement de rock-alternatif, j’aime beaucoup ! L’intro de Hummer est super créative, ainsi que son riff. Geek USA, le riff… Mayonaise, très sympa, une jolie mélancholie Quiet, j’ai replay l’intro.

Hat mir sehr gut gefallen. Aber die prduktion ist mir zu doll.

Tämä ei ollut ennestään tuttu levy bändiltä. En ole bändiltä montaakaan levyä kuunnellut ja se ”hitti-levy” on ainoa, mikä löytyy omasta levyhyllystä.

Lead voice is wack

Not bad, quite mid

I like them but it doesnt have any of the songs I enjoy of theirs

Flashback. Listened to this incessantly in my youth. Now I find I vapid and oddly polished.

Some good tracks. Good album overall.

some things really annoyed me, but i was mostly positively surprised

- fun instrumental - my first time listening to hard rock - favs: quiet, today, disarm, luna - 3 stars

today is nicely melodic. I dont like the sound of his voice Luna and Mayonaise have more shoegaze influence

Top song Today

This album has huge production, wonderful rifs, it's heavy in a really accessible way and has some of rocks most enduring tracks. However, it also have songs that drift and drone, especially after mayonnaise. Perhaps with 5 or 6 fewer tracks this would be one of the greats, instead it drifted into mediocrity. I've always been quite conflicted about this album and band, it seems I still am.

Fav track, “Disarm” The grunge sound really gets me going, but the vocals kind of take me out of it. Sorry, Billy. Imagine it’s 1995, you and your artsy college crew are hanging out at the local record store. They’re hunting down Pumpkins albums while I’m over in the T’s looking for Tori Amos bootlegs. We are similar, but not quite the same.

I like it... as much as I like the Smashing Pumpkins. Billy Corgan is insufferable but at least this one isn't overpackaged ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

There's just something about these guys that leaves me cold. Better than the phenomenal lack of editing that is Mellon Collie but I dunno if comparative brevit can save this.

Siamese Dreams; two good songs, the rest of her listenable. Overall, it’s better than their MelonCollie album. Today and Disarm are the Siamese twins and The lead tracks on the album. I still find Corgan‘s voice a little whiny. (3.3*s) I think there will be one more from The Pumpkins…

In the wake of Billy Corgan's douchiness and the overall falloff of The Smashing Pumpkins I overlooked how good of an album Siamese Dream is. I was too young in 1993 to partake in this album when it was contemporary so I largely missed its overall impact. However I remember how the Pumpkins and Billy Corgan somehow ruled the airwaves in the late 90's in the wake of this and Mellon Collie. The hits are still strong and deeper cuts have the basis for the angsty edgelord cringefest that Smashing Pumpkins is known for. It's truly an accomplishment that the music on this album is somehow strong enough to carry Billy Corgan's grating vocals for 60 minutes without issue. Despite the constant stream of whininess I was surprised how well this album held up. I kept expecting it would devolve into absolute drivel but it managed to hold on for an hour and keep me entertained. Mellon Collie gets a lot of attention but Siamese Dream is the the real gem of The Smashing Pumpkins collection. 3.17 stars

Funky

Very 90s. It's pretty good but a notch below great. Corgan's voice can be grating at times.

Por la razón que sea, siempre he sentido que los Smashing Pumpkins no me ofrecían nada novedoso, o que no tenían un estilo demasiado definido, más allá de la característica voz de su cantante. Que me perdonen sus fans. Este álbum realmente tiene buenas canciones, especialmente, para mi gusto, aquellas que suenan más grunge. Lo dicho, me dejan algo frío pero no les tengo el más mínimo hate. Un bien y a por otro.

Nice

Лучшая песня: Tonight Худшая: Spaceboy Из плюсов - неожиданно тяжелая гитара. А так все очень похоже между собой. 2-3 песни понравились

Ожидания были выше. По итогу монотонно, но сам звук хороший.

-the vibe of this album is exactly what I think of when I think of The Smashing Pumpkins -I enjoyed it, but don’t have specific thoughts right now -would probably listen again

I feel so bad giving an album from one of my favorite genres a mediocre rating, but I just never could get over Corgan's voice. Sounds like he's had foil shoved down his throat and is singing into a fan. No thanks. I'll be skipping until I find an instrumental

This is too creative to be bad, but personally, the Pumpkins borrow too much from other genres and not enough from any one of them.

Overall, the album was okay. I wore a few songs I enjoyed.

loud

This was a much better and listenable album than Mellon collie. Songs still went on for too long but still not quite my thing

I finished it! Listened to it twice, even. Not entirely my cup of tea, but there are couple of bangers and nothing that pissed me off.

Preferred Melon Collie but had a good time with this! Smashing Pumpkins - good!

Good classic rock album. 6.7/10

ok solido

yeah there was some cool grunge and stuff but where's the sauce of people smashing pumpkins like 0/10 let's be real

Honestly, I can see the hype and why people love this album so much. It's got some great grunge and alternative rock sounds, with particularly cool guitar work. His vocals aren't bad, but they don't particularly grab me into the music the same way that other bands do. Honestly, the album might be too long with some of the later songs dragging a little.

“We have grunge at home”

This is one of those albums I can respect more than I can love. The instrumental work is genuinely solid, there’s texture, layering, and some really nice moments buried in the distortion, but the vocals just didn’t click for me, and that ended up holding the whole thing back. It feels sincere, and I can tell it meant everything to Billy Corgan, but I’d be lying if I said it fully engaged me. There’s ambition here and I get why people call it iconic, but it never quite pulled me into its world. For me, it lands more as respectable than essential. For now, in my opinion it’s a tad overrated, however this is one I’m going to give another go in the future

3.5 stars

I enjoyed, not the biggest the smashing pumpkins fan but it was a good album

it's an album as a whole i understand why it's on this list i am gonna come back to it for sure well structured very long ~ didn't listen to whole piece probably wouldn't listen to it on my own. It's a nice discovery but (again) my cup of tea. This challenge is 3 days long and I'm already feeling a bit frustrated with pushing myself to make it through. 3.5 out of 5

All these years of knowing The Smashing Pumpkins existed and I still never really knew they were so heavily leaning into alternative rock. There's not much they do here to make the album stand out among the other alt rock albums on this list, aside from some stellar guitar work, but there's still a few good songs on here, specifically Today. Overall, I think the album is a little too long for me to really push it to the next level though, anything that reaches over an hour better have some great stuff that's keeping me there. I wonder if the same people that complain about Adele or Taylor Swift albums having several songs that all sound the same feel the same way about an album like this. Highlight: Today Lowlight: Sweet Sweet

Meh. This type of early 90s American rock does nothing for me. It just has no depth to the sound or the message. It feels flat and mediocre. The great exception is of course Nirvana whose albums batter you with their intensity and furious genius.. but once you’ve heard that, how could you love this?

BIen, la voz de Corgan se mixea bien con la música. NO es un 3, es un 3,5. Arriesgado

reminds me of hot topic in the Mall of America and music videos and James Iha. Peak 90s nostalgia here

Слушать скучно, но есть хиты Вокал надоедает, нет разнообразия Инструментал хороший Может переслушаю, но не полностью

This lot have been on my must investigate later list for years but never yet got around to it. I remember thinking about this when I got their other contribution to this list (Mellon Collie etc) last year. Like that album some great guitar riff led rockers interspersed with some lovely softer melodic slow tunes. Having now listened I will be on the look out for this album to buy cheap if possible. Left knowing that a music collection should have at least one Smashing Pumpkin album and this one covers all bases. 3/5 2/2/26

it was fineee

Huge, fuzzy guitars and some great songwriting, but I still can’t connect with it. The music is solid, yet Billy Corgan’s nasal, whiny delivery just grates on me and pulls me out of the album. Feels like something I should like, but don’t.

Its rock! It seems to be the inventor of that rock sound (according to some stuff) either way, its a lot. Some stuff is great (Disarm) other stuff is just a bit much ey?

A decent mix! Some ups, some downs. Mayonaise is fun vibe. Not the biggest fan though.

Not my exact vibe of music but I really enjoyed! Nice to finally listen to smashing pumpkins

I can see the promise, but I think I just don’t care for the Smashing Pumpkins.

I always thought of smashing pumpkins as mor for the grunge years. that view still stands. not a bad indictment. some times it’s fantastic. but in the mail it’s all a bit middling.

Teenage angst Songs kinda all blended in, maybe it’s cause i was listening to it in the car

It was great listening to this entire album finally after always loving Cherub Rock and Today but the rest of the tracks don’t jump out to me. Feels like I probably would need to give it a few more listens to appreciate.

It’s ok for me. Very 90’s

it was fine

Instrumental and music was great but billy corgan's voice just grates on everyone of my nerves.

Tämmöstä tasapaksua kurpitsaa. Kyllähän täs viihtyi mut en kyllä tätä voi neloseen nostella. Pari kovaa radiolekaa joukossa

Kuulostaa että alunperin pitäny tehä vihanen levy, mutta liika pajari vei vihalta terän ja tuli sit tämmönen

Good, first time listening to The Smashing Pumkins and it was a positive first time

I never really clicked with the band in the 90’s. I like some songs and love a couple… ‘Today’ being one of those I love (1979 being the other). Still doesn’t click with me, but I can see why it’s loved by many.

Good album. Fun use of noise

Fun listen. Not my genre though

Not my favourite, which I was surprised by because I thought I'd like The Smashing Pumpkins. I've liked some of their other songs in the past. I knew Luna already and like that song, but didn't love the other ones.

One of the greatest Fuck/Marry/Kills of all time is this: Smashing Pumkins vs. Pearl Jam vs. Nirvana (F Pumpkins, M Pearl Jam, K Nirvana for me). Pumpkins have a varied song to grunge to some beautiful melodies. It's just too long and repetitive to earn four stars. Top tracks: "Today," "Cherub Rock," "Luna," Disarm"

--Cherub Rock...Billy Corgan can eat my whole ass but this song humps —Quiet…nice heaviness. I like Corgan’s yelp just fine but I don’t dig the whisper thing he does. It works on “1979”, I guess --Today…decent radio alt rock --Hummer…I like the bass. Meh on everything else --Rocket...solid rock anthem --Disarm...Billy's voice is grating but it feels authentic here. strings are very nice --Soma...like the guitar tone. easy breezy. starts "rocking" in the second half but it feels forced --Geek U.S.A....great drums here. this is nice 'n' heavy. some metal noodling at the end --Mayonaise...I like the guitar work in the intro. but the rest of the song, combined with the title, feels like it might be joke I don't fully understand. It's possible that it's totally sincere and I don't get sincerity anymore after decades of 24 hour news cycles --Spaceboy...Billy goes soft again and this time it feels extra. skip --Silverfuck...the first 3 minutes are fun. Then things slow down. Seems a titbit self-indulgent. Song is almost nine minutes long and I think they want to go for something a little more prog here, but the middle four minutes are meandering nonsense --Sweet Sweet...more soft Billy. at least it's short --Luna...see previous comment. this one is not as short

The album was ok. I liked some songs, obviously smashing pumpkins is mainstream asf so Ive heard "Today" before. I think the singing style is cool. Overall, songs were not for me, and one of them at the end was too loud. Just not enjoyable noise.

Some obvious hits, but this one falls into the bin of "just good grunge" which isn't really anything special.

NOT MY TYPE

It’s a unique blend, not my normal listen but I still enjoyed some tracks

Not biggest fan of shoegaze elements, but overall good

Favorite track: Rocket

Actually, it's much more hard rock thank I remembered.

Grunge, pretty good for a workout. Not something I’d reach for.

2.85

I like 1979 and Cupid de locke so maybe I’ll like this?? Not for me. Do not enjoy.

Smashing Pumpkins make their second entry into my 1001 albums list, and I'm not liking this one as much as I enjoyed Mellon Collie... It's not bad, there's just very little that grabs my attention or interest beyond Disarm, Soma and Silverfuck. It's well produced and put together and some of the out-tros are diverting to the point of being over the top and more in keeping with a live performance. Just over 50 albums in - maybe I'm getting rock fatigue - this gets a low 3 stars.

I didn’t like it very much, I just don’t think I’m a big Smashing Pumpkins fan

6/10

Really good

It’s like I am being smacked by guitars (not complaining)

Good music but his voice just doesn’t fit.

Not nearly as good as Gish

Overall enjoyed the vibes but Billy's voice is hard for me.

Is fine.

nice, good alternative album but didn't like all the effects

This is apparently my partners favorite group. I’m not sure it’s her favorite album j hesitate to ask. A number of songs I knew from rockband. Decent album though

This album has some ok songs; it sounds pretty much all the same to me, though. Not bad, but I find myself having a harder and harder time returning to this band.

There are a few standout timeless tracks and a few that sort of fade into memory

Billy Corgan pmo me off but this one is pretty chill Favorite track: Soma

i liked the song today

Not the typical thing I'd listen to but it was pretty decent, to be honest not many of the songs stood out to me as much better than the others, I liked Spaceboy and Luna a decent amount and thought disarm was a little crap. There was some cool guitar, especially in silverfuck, but I don't really love the "cool guitar" sound, I tend to focus more on singing, which here was alright but nothing incredible for me. Having a hard time placing this between 3 and 4. 67/100 Score edited 11/01/26

Hm, klang schon irgendwie alles gleich. So langsamer Kuschelrock, das ich schlafen wollte. Das ich Nachts einen im Tee hatte, hat diesem Album nicht geholfen

It’s fine

Not my vibe, but still a good one.

Nice to recognize Cherub Rock and Today. Overall, it was just ok.

I liked the guitar and music, not so much his voice. But... thats every Smashing Pumpkins listen. A couple great songs on there!

i like this but not enough to relisten

Good album, solid 3.5/5

Not bad

That brings me back..

its ok

Love the voice. Dislike the guitar and drums.

Good album. Not necessarily something I would routinely seek out, but in the right circumstances it works. 3/5 Might listen again

It's a solid album which turns out to have a much better range than the initial metal ripoffs without the melodies. There's a couple of standout tracks, but it just doesn't excite me much, it's a very sludgey sound, lacking much in the way of hooks or riffs and the vocals set so far down in the mix as to be incomprehensible.

Started off quite a strong, but I did tire of Billy by the second half

Yeah this is pretty high quality

That one song is ok

Leaning towards a 3 here as even though I love the opening and closing run of tracks I don't think it paces as well as I would hope. It is a very strong 3 as over half of it is excellent and I think it's just a lil less than the sum of its parts

Always found Billy corgans voice annoying but Cherub Rock is still a banger of a tune

3.4/.5

A bit too up and down for it to be one of my favourites but enjoyable overall

LOVE the songs I do, sick guitar tone, weird voice, as an album, just eh

Points for original sound and voice, and throw back to the 90s. I could never get beyond the vocals though - always struggled to get into their music because of that.

I liked some of it, maybe after listening to it several times, I may decide I like the whole album?

Love Today but the rest meh

3.5 stars

3.5

I was so worried that Billy Corrgan was born as an adult but thank god he let us know he used to be a little boy.

I was just a bit too old for intense Smashing Pumpkins fandom, but I can appreciate their place in the late/post-grunge era canon.

All of these songs are new to me, as I’m a mostly non-alternative rock listener. Some of the tracks are pretty good, but there is too much overdubbing, fuzzy guitar and squeaky guitar on some songs.

Yay. I don't have this album but I DO have other Smumpkins albums, and 20-years-ago me considered them one of my favorite bands. The original cover is not this weird orange/purple monstrosity, by the way. One thing that kept me from maintaining them as one of my favorite bands is that I don't find the lyrics that interesting, and all the songs feel pretty similar. Corgan has a unique voice, which of course I like, and I always liked James Iha and D'arcy Wretzky (who isn't really on this album). There's a lot of guitar, which I suppose bothers me more than it used to. But it feels like wistful guitar! (Not just nostalgia talking; I always thought so even in the 90s.) It's also not secondary to the vocals; they seem roughly symmetric, which is nice. A lot of happy lyrics with sad music or sad lyrics with happy music, which is something else I generally like. You can see the Iha throughline to A Perfect Circle, imo. Also, if I never read on Wiki about the "wall of sound" again it'll be too soon. Like "prog" I still have no idea what it means. Isn't every song a wall of sound?? (I imagine someone reading this and shaking their first at the screen. But I'm just speaking my truth here, man.) The violin & cello on 'Disarm' are great, but that song (and 'Today') are kind of overplayed for me now. Gosh, is this a 3? A 4? I don't know! For the record: My favorite album of theirs is 'Adore', which I'm sure isn't on here, being both more recent and less acclaimed. Highlights: 'Disarm', 'Sweet Sweet' Lowlight: 'Silverfuck' (loud noises at the end there)

Loved it, not as much as I like Violator, but it's another good showing from Depeche Mode.

À despeito do início fraco, com duas faixas ordinariamente convencionais de guitarras potentes, o disco começa a se revelar nas duas seguintes "Today" e "Hummer", culminando em temas como "Soma" e "Mayoneses". As guitarras potentes ainda estão ali, mas trabalhando em prol da construção de um painel sonoro rico e instigante, a ponto de que quando chega a "Silverfuck", até o barulho passa a fazer sentido, na composição da trilha do disco.

Went unexpectedly hard.

A bit long, could have been 15 mins shorter, and there wasn't a single 2 or 4 not smashed with both sticks on the snare, but I enjoyed it more than most 90s grunge, which is one of my least favourite genres. I liked Billy Corgan, his voice was a bit more energetic and theatrical than his contemporaries. I think the best moments was when it slowed down and got a little sparse, I'm all for the loud stuff but I could go an entire acoustic album with sweeping orchestral backing of tracks like Disarm and Spaceboy. I don't think it's a 4, just because of the vibe and time period, but it's a decent 3

Ja, typische sound. Disarm heb ik wel veel geluisterd.

Smashing pumpkins, ja bekend maar ik kan er geen nummer van noemen. Zal vast een Ohja Erlebnis zijn. Na het luisteren: ok. Vind het niet verkeerd maar hoef het niet perse zelf op te zetten.

A couple of songs I recognize on this album! But overall, while the sound is okay, Billy Corgan's voice just bothers me a little too much, a bit like Bob Dylan's voice bothers me. This really affects my enjoyment of the album.

Being honest, I’ve never liked Billy Corgan’s voice. Only in the early 90s could someone with a voice like that ever find mainstream success in the music industry. ¨Siamese Dream’s¨ opening track, ¨Cherub Rock,¨ sounds like it’s got a grunge hangover. This muddy, distorted sound was waiting for ¨Dookie¨ to come out and change everything, and bands that changed and survived like Smashing Pumpkins definitely benefitted from it. ¨Cherub Rock¨ isn’t bad, it sounds like something Nirvana might have done had Kurt listened to a bit more stadium rock and less of the Raincoats. As I make my way through the album nothing stands out, but the uniformity is pleasant. Billy’s strange wail, the droning fuzz of the music, the ennui of a gray Monday morning- all come together to make a pleasant background listening. The album is much too long but pleasant enough. People constantly rank it as one of the best albums of the 90s- I guess you had to be there. Best songs: ¨Cherub Rock,¨ ¨Hummer,¨ ¨Rocket¨

Got some catchy, crunchy tunes, but lacks the sentimentality that drew me into mellon collie.

big 3

the only band that has done a version of this that is good is creed. also realizing how much of all 2014 indie sounds like this. i like the guitar songs most, loses me a bit with the big orchestrations and bells and stuff.

me gustaría que todo el album sonara como los primeros 10 segundos de Quiet wow muy bueno a veces, el cantante le resta un punto. ponele entre 2.5 y 3

Growing up a grunge and rock and metal boy, I was fully aware of The Smashing Pumpkins, but until today I had never listened to a single one of their albums. Was it Corgan's voice, was it the shitty video of that Tonight song? Was it some bias I felt due to them being so successful in the US while my beloved, clearly and vastly superior Manic Street Preachers, were not? Don't know, something kept me at bay. This is an album which I imagine I would have liked if I'd heard it at the time. I'd probably like it now with more listens. But I only have time for a single listen and so - first half, they sound like shit Nirvana, second half much more unique and interesting.

мне нравятся smashing pumpkins, в этом альбоме несколько их любимых песен. но некоторые для меня тяжеловаты, а под конец стало немного скучно, появилось ощущение однотипности

Fint det

Oppleves rimelig punka og rockete, samme sound hele veien, liker jo vokalen til Smashing Pumpkins. Litt ensformig i dag, men kan forstå at det var stort for sin tid. Hørte ikke på det i en sitting, så mangler nok litt den røde tråden. Sist gav jeg det 3/5 som betyr at jeg likte det, men ikke elsket det så høyt at jeg hører det flere ganger på rad. Det står seg

Ehhh. The smashing pumpkins were never really my thing, mostly too repetitive. Not a bad album but not my favorite by any means either.

It was fine.

Not as into Pumpkins as my peers at the time, but this is certainly their best.

I feel like you have to be in the right mood to really appreciate a record like this. There were definitely some great tracks on here but the rest dragged on a bit. I'm sure I would enjoy it after a couple listens

estoy como en una dicotomía ya que en parte me gustó y en parte me canso un poco, lo sentí repetitivo

controversial. really couldn’t get into this as much as I’d like. still a few really good songs

Steady with no standouts

Var det slik at man kunne dj-e bort vokalen i Tidal?

Fuzz pedals and tabloid press. The crown jewel of alt rock. Gen X’s Smile: a groundbreaking gorgeous collection of songs from a mentally ill auteur.

Moody, expansive album. Interesting songs and arrangements. Good listening

They’re grunge-ish. And I like it. 3.5 stars in my book.

3.4

I bet I will like it the more I listen to it. For now, I just need to stop listening to the first 30 mins of it before quitting.

Grunge / early 90s vibes First 2 songs I like Grungyness wears thin after a few songs Disarm I recognise from the intro Rest of album a bit bland for me

I always think of that Simpsons moment, when Billy Corgan is introducing himself, “Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins,” and Homer replying, “Homer Simpson, smiling politely.” It’s the perfect encapsulation of Corgan’s self-seriousness bumping into the absurdity of the world around him. Reading about this album just reinforces what’s already known: Corgan’s a notorious control freak. Stories from people who’ve worked with him paint the picture of a guy who’s both obsessive and petulant, and you can hear that tension all over Siamese Dream. It’s not my favorite Pumpkins record (that honor goes to Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness), but Siamese Dream feels like the blueprint for it. You can hear the band evolving, the layering, the production ambition, the emotional sprawl starting to take shape. It’s the sound of a band learning how big they could really get.

Some really good songs, some mediocre songs, and some real dumb frontman. 3-4

thats good, 3.5/5

An instructive process in teaching me I may not like alt rock very much.

Some of my music friends clown this record, but I think it’s pretty cool. It’s almost like a more accessible shoegaze. Corgan can sing, Chamberlain can play, too. After this record, SP starts to go off the rails, but this will remain as the document of their peak.

I tried, but just not digging it.

I didnt hear It but i guess It IS good

A solid album with that instantly recognizable sound and some great songs.

The sound is iconic, but then I remember Billy Corgan is a wanker.

This feels grungy and remeniscinent of the time. The vocals were kind of growly. I enjoyed the moodiness.

Some of my favorite Smashing Pumpkins songs. The album starts strong, fades, and then finishes strong.

It's ok

I think it started strong but at some point I got bored

I thought it was good in spells

Solid band

I was never a fan back in the 90s when they were all over the radio, and I would never have played this on my own if not for this site. But I gotta admit, this isn't bad at all.

Three complete classic songs (Cherub Rock, Today, Disarm), but the rest of it just doesn't grab me. I agree that it's an essential album, and is a much better representative than their contemporaries in the "rock, alt rock, whatever you want to call it" scene of the early 90s. On the strength of those 3 songs alone, 3/5.

hee na geil. bar mal tätsch und klöpf, glaub ha nüd könnt aber maybe scho na banger potentiall, wenni z.b. das i minere chindheit via eltere mitbecho hät. aber ja mini eltere sind musik banause und ich bin darum nöd so gschuelt wurde mit Bands und spezifische musik. Siamesischi 3 südostasiatische Freudehüpfer für das guete Stuck

I can understand why it's popular, but it wasn't for me. I guess I don't feel angry right now : ) Disarm and Today rules though.

This is the kind of music that would be on at a dive bar where it fits the vibe but I’d complain that I want to go to a different bar with better music. This wasn’t as bad as Mellon collie.

Os anos 90 vem sendo uma grata surpresa nessa jornada, falar sobre sentimentos, expectativas e frustrações estava em alta nessa época e me pego refletindo o quão competente o Smashing Pumpkins foi nesse álbum, produção impecável, com camadas instrumentais gostas de ouvir e músicas profundas. Realmente colocar sentimentos em uma música é arte e aqui a banda foi Picasso.

Good stuff.

Cherub Rock 4 Quiet 3.8 Today 4 Hummer 3.7 Rocket 3.2 Disarm 3.8 Soma 3.6 Geek U.S.A. 3.4 Mayonaise 3.5 Spaceboy 3.3 Silverfuck 2.8 Sweet Sweet 2.9 Luna 3 Score: 3.413869492

Again, one of those 90’s bands I never quite got into, outside of 1979, which is always fun to hear on the radio. Some decent stuff here, though.

The vocals are much less whiny than Mellon Collie. But the music is much less dramatic and powerful. I wish there could be some combo. 3.5/5

A lot of nostalgia for this band. I like the first half. That's where most of the songs I knew were. Really lost interest in the second half. Songs started to drag.

My favourite Pumpkins album 6/10 Only a recent convert to their music also

Some very songs, some boring grunge songs. The sound is very good, because of the perfect production.

I can’t fault the songwriting or musicianship and yet I still find this tedious.

A couple of pretty good songs, bit 7 gets a bit long in parts

I'm not the biggest grunge fan, but I thought this album was decent. Nothing really stood out though like from other Smahsing Pumpkins albums.

Pretty samey sounding. Very aughts. 'Disarm' was the standout tracks.

Good, vibey, would’ve rather listened to something else on my bday though

Arena Rock

Once again it's funny to hear the older roots of band who have had one huge radio hit later on. It's somewhat relaxing at least.

Enjoyed the instrumentation and performance, but Billy Corgan's voice is so annoying. This band was good, but could have been great if Billy Corgan had surrendered the vocals to a dedicated front person. Hard to ignore how much of a grade A asshole he is.

Some

Haven't listen this album since it's release. Then it didn't raise any of my attention basically and now listening it I just wonder why. Maybe I was too focused on STP...

I can now appreciate Today, it’s a good song and I’m glad my guitar hero trauma has been healed

not bad

Very 90's grunge sound. Something I enjoyed a lot when I was younger.

I’ve got it, but not really listened to much of it yet.

The great songs are great but I dont love the ones that aren't the hits as much. 3/5 Favorites: Cherub Rock, Today, Disarm, Luna

This one is infinitely times better than Melan Collie. That album is alll over the place, but they sound more focused here. Like, they figured out a clear lane. They experimented outside of it of course, but the path never changed.

I was kind of surprised at how many of the songs I recognized/ liked, but honestly it was a little much for one sitting

Always too much bloat in almost all of The Smashing Pumpkins catalog (I’d exempt Gish from that). Corgan’s voice is what it is - it works for me sometimes.

Was decent enough.

I find many of the songs too repetitive music wise, but I find it improves in the second half of the album. 3 stars or C.

Ikke så bra som jeg later sommjeg tror den er

Love the 3 big hits, especially Cherub Rock and Disarm. First time listening to the full album. The album tracks blended together for me but it all sounded very good. I figured Billy must have had a troubled upbringing based on his lyrics - Wikipedia says yup. It’s unfortunate he kinda went off the deep end. Is this the Pumpkins’ best album? It must be.

I vividly recall getting into the pumpkins as a teenager. It wasn't through their classic 90s material that played constantly on the radio. It was actually through their comeback record in 2007, Zeitgeist. The lead single Tarantula got a ton of airplay on much music at the time and I loved it. I even bought the album. I went to revisit it because of this review and it turns out the album is not on streaming. I think there's a rights issue and Billy doesn't own it. It's on youtube though... and it's still a fun song (no idea if the rest of the album holds up). Anyways, because of that album I dug into the rest of their material. My girlfriend at the time owned the greatest hits and burnt me a copy of it... and holy shit that greatest hits is incredible. Their run of singles from Cherub Rock to Tonight Tonight is insane. Because the greatest hits was so good, I tried to to get into their albums... but they never stuck with me. I listened to them all as a teenager but i just kept going back to the greatest hits. At the time I thought... "maybe they're just a singles band" and then moved on. Fast forward to today and I sort of feel the same way about this album... but it's not so black and white. The 3 singles on it are these massive omnipresent 90s alt rock classics. Disarm specifically is gorgeous. Even though I've heard it a hundred times, it still gets me. It's hard for the rest of the album to compete with these 3 songs. The first two-thirds of the album is especially mid in comparison. It's full of these fuzzy gish-era pumpkin songs that don't have memorable tunes. They all sorta blend together and underwhelm when wedged between the 3 big boys. The back third though was quite nice. There's a lot of variety there. I really enjoyed Mayonaise. Yes, it's pretty standard hazy pumpkins, but the tune is catchy as hell. Silverfuck is a big multiphase grunge rock epic. Sweet Sweet is a light, chorus-y vignette. Spaceboy and Luna are nice, vibe-y little ballads. I especially enjoyed the strings on the former. The ending of this album really saved it for me. At first I was quite annoyed that my 16 year old analysis held up. But then hit those last 5 tracks and really enjoyed it. Perhaps in time the rest of the album will grow on me. For now... it's a 3. But It has inspired me to revisit all the other Pumpkins albums and see if there's more than just the singles. Correction: all of them except for Melancholy and the infinite Sadness... that one is still a bloated, messy double album and no matter how many times I go back to it, i'm still bored even though Tonight Tonight is probably my favourite pumpkins song. God damn double albums. Anyways, ya, I enjoyed Siamese Dream. It's a good album.

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Beaucoup de bruit pour ... je sais pas.

So many hits on this album, but I’ve just never been a big fan. His voice sounds whiny to me. I probably enjoyed the less popular songs more since they haven’t been overplayed.

Pretty good, no complaints

First few Songs Not my Kind, but beginning with disarm i was beginning to get the vibe

To me, this is a 90s version of The Cure. I just don’t like them that much. I thought about giving it a 2 but gave it a 3 on nostalgia alone.

This wasn’t bad but I didn’t find it especially memorable in any way.

Another Album standard of its decade, this time 90's Alt Rock. There are a couple of really good tracks such as Today and Disarm, and it wasn't' an unpleasant listen by any stretch but 90's rock isn't really my cup of tea. Happy to give this a 3.

Not sure why, but I was expecting more. 6/10

Not as good as Gish

I gave up listening to it after Disarm just like I did when I brought this back in 1993. The circle is complete.

Fun-enough 90’s rock. Not a song I didn’t mildly enjoy. 3.5

Fine, can see the appeal but not for me

While I feel that "Melon Collie" is too bloated and should be a single album, this one feels about right. Love the guitar/bass/drums interplay and it makes up for Corgan's voice and lyrics.

It is an 'OK' album.

A few Bangers, but not doing too much for me

I have been wanting to explore more SP, so I was happy to see this one come up. Unfortunately, I was left feeling a tad disappointed with it by the end. You can tell all the parts are there- crashing, loud guitars; vocals that range from screaming-in-your-face to lullaby-esque softness; various topics and concepts to keep things interesting. Even so, the overall product felt underwhelming for the most part. It was a solid album as a whole. It had songs that worked both by themselves and together with the rest. It started strong with Cherub Rock. I think the rest didn't live up to that high, however. It also felt long in a way that's difficult to nail down, as the runtime wasn't really the problem. It just got a little tedious or something. Maybe I would've liked it more if it were a song or two shorter? I feel like that was a lot of negative analysis, but that probably comes from having somewhat high expectations. I can say the album was a solid "good" even with the critiques above. I should probably come back to it again later and give it another try. Overall: 3/5

I rated this 4 stars a while ago but I cannot remember a single thing about this album so I'm changing it to a 3 star. Probably wasn't bad tho bc if it was I'd remember it for being so.

Fand die ruhigen Stellen eher gut davon Liebling: Hummer Schlechtester: habs nur einmal gehört, da ist nix in die richtung rausgestochen nur die Streicher von Disarm waren bissch sehr kitschig

Solid, but probably not their best