Siamese Dream

Het eerste nummer begint meteen met het bekende "stofzuiger" geluid, monotone ruis. Nee, dit album gaat hem niet worden. Ik erger me niet echt aan iets, als is de zang niet heel aangenaam, maar in het algemeen is het een soort van langzame punkrock of zo. Heeft af en toe iets van Nirvana, maar toch ook weer niet. Mijn favoriet is "Today". ***

Also wasnt wild about this despite the fact that its such a cult favorite. Maybe next time...

Often overshadowed by Mellon Collie, Pumpkins 2nd album is a great listen.

This is an album I have pretty mixed feelings on. Cherub Rock is a great song, and there are a few others in there as well. It's a bit too long overall, but still nowhere near as bad as Mellon Collie (which is like 2 hours haha). On the flipside, some of it heads into that shoegazey, alt-rock territory that I don't really like. Corgan's alright when he sounds angry, but when he sounds whiny it's pretty grating. The guitar tone has no meat to it, which matches his voice well - but again, small doses. It's also a real good bit of evidence that the term "grunge" made absolutely no fuckin' sense. It sounds almost nothing like Nirvana or Mudhoney or Soundgarden or Pearl Jam (and none of them really sounded alike either). This has more in common with My Bloody Valentine than Alice in Chains. I listen to a couple of songs from this in other playlists anyway, but I don't think I'd do the full album again. As a whole it doesn't have enough oomph. Still, 3/5.

Smashing pumpkins is one of those bands that on paper I should love - alternative grunge with thoughtful lyrics and creative song writing. But honestly I just haven’t gotten into them, other than the flagship songs. Although I prefer Mellon Collie to Siamese Dream probably because the former had more energy

Not heard this album before, enjoyed it but not one I'll go back to 3

Solid production, but not quite for me. Don't think I've ever listened through a full album of theirs, and it just doesn't resonate.

As far as 90s alt rock bands go, I like the sound of Smashing Pumpkins better than many others (ie., Nirvana, STP). Still, I can't help wishing that their albums showed more range. Aside from the couple of hits on this album, much of the rest of the songs sound largely the same, and much the same as the weaker songs on MC&TIS. That said, Billy Corgan is in great voice on these tracks and the band is tight behind him. Taking the best of these songs and playing them with the best of MC&TIS makes for a damn fine "album" of 90s angst rock, and I'd more likely take that approach than to listen to either album in their entirety.

We already listened to Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness and this album is not as good. It’s less polished. More sloppy. For instance, the guitar solos in Quiet and Geek U.S.A. feel overindulgent. I do like the rocking’ guitar on Geek U.S.A. Cherub Rock is good. As is Today. Then again, I could do without Mayonaise and Spaceboy. It’s a mixed bag for me.

3/5 okeyish, but not after all

Strong first half of the album, back half leaves something to be desired.

Great "Sloging" riffs. Found them way more listenable the older I get. Very DIY sounding. Overall an enjoyable, "headbanger" album if you're in the mood.

There's some really good songs on this album (Cherub Rock, Today, Disarm) but overall it's pretty boring. 3.5 stars.

I'm just not a huge fan of Smashing Pumpkins. It's a whiny kind of 90s which, admittedly, does have some good stuff to it (Disarm is a nice song). So, this counts as more of a midrange album.

Decent album, runs a bit too long and slows down a bit in the second half.

Good stuff.

The grunge scene was a little before my time, and I could never really get into it. Having said that, this was listenable, and I can appreciate the craft.

angsty teen rock from the 90s

Better than expected, quite heavy. Little boring

Solid 90s grunge, a professional, less fru-fru, more down to earth Nirvana.

This one didn't stick with me much on the first listen. I'll have to give it another listen later.

Okay, so now I've listened to both albums by The Smashing Pumpkins, and this one is better than the other. There are more songs that I vibe with and I think that I may actually revisit after. My favourite is Spaceboy.

A pretty nice fun album. Not the best, not the worst. Smashing Pumpkins are still lame though

A mixture of metal and melancholy. One aspect I enjoyed, the other just not my cup of tea.

Some excellent songs in there

This was pretty good actually Favorites: Today Mayonaise Silverfuck Sweet Sweet

Quite good and would probably listen to more.

A mixture of metal and melancholy. One aspect I enjoyed, the other just not my cup of tea.

Few good tunes but nothing that memorable.

Not bad but never warmed to this album

Enjoyed it. No bad songs on there but also no amazing ones, rattled along nicely.

Listening conditions - home theatre, a little bit distracted but with Smashing Pumpkin’s further reading. Albums First Rodeo? - i don’t think so. Stand out tracks Cherub Rock - Banger what a great opener. Today - Ionic Smashing Pumpkins, still holds up as an anthem today. An era and genre defining track. Silverfuck - Yeah that’s a great journey. Miss Soma - dull and long, nothing special and following Disarm (which is a very close contender for a stand out track) just really puts this track into bad light. It’s a good album and I try not to listen with hindsight but that can be hard and honestly apart from the singles there’s not much here and I can’t help but think their next album (Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness) is what will always define the band and what they were trying to pull off here. Note this album really picks up again towards the end, looking at you Luna.

fun and upbeat. idk

gitara koja uleti na pocetku- B r u t a l n a

- boring - like from a dream

Prima album, ik was even vergeten dat hun gitaarrifjes soms toch echt moddervet zijn. Dat gepiel en geneuzel daar kan ik slechter tegen..

Never listened to it in full before, but I do like it. Corgans voice is not for everyone but there a couple of really good tracks on here.

Quite melodic

It was fine, but I'm not a huge fan of grunge or the Smashing Pumpkins, so it was not my favorite.

"Lover, lover let's pretend We're born as innocents Cast into the world With apple eyes" (Geek USA) "I'll sing for you If you want me to I'll give to you And it's a chance I'll have to take And it's a chance I'll have to break" (Luna) yo a los dos minutos: bueno, tampoco es tan deprimente esto. yo a los diez minutos: deja que ponga Montero porque me voy a tirar por la ventana.

Mayonaise is the coolest song this band ever did And it's basically 'Sometimes' by MBV.

Cherub Rock and Today still hold up. Some good, a lot of okay.

Used to listen to this loads as a yute; round my mate Simon's, Virtua Fighter 2 on the PS1 and sound off so we could listen to The Pixies, Mark Lanegan and Smashing Pumpkins. Even with that healthy shot of nostalgia in the plus column for this album, Billy Corgan's voice is such that it's still hard going in places. Not bad, though.

The year my brother was born! I have a feeling Cherub Rock was playing right as he came into this world. This is a great guitar hero song and I haven’t listened to this album before so I’m excited to see what’s in store. Hopefully not too many pumpkins were harmed in the making of this album. There is a certain irony in this second song, I didn’t find it to be Quiet at all. I don’t think I’ve heard Today before today but it sounds an awful lot like a Simple Plan plan. Ok I have heard it before now. Maybe Simple Plan hadn’t I won’t presume. This is another instance where I am not a huge fan of Smashing Pumpkins (I certainly wouldn’t do that to a neighbor) but they have some great songs and a few of them are on this album. This does feel like a seminal 90’s album. Something someone would put on while they stare at the posters in their room of Duran Duran and The Ramones as they struggle to do their homework when they really just want to fight the system aka skip class. Rocket stands out to me as another good song from this album. I’m seeing now that we are commenting on the album covers so I really like this one as well, very alt rock.

Not my cup of tea but well made and i am sure someone will like it!

Mye nostalgi i dette

Overrated

Doesn't hit the same as when you're 13

More my kind of thing than Bjork (yesterday's album). I know SP are regarded very highly, but it must be over my head. I like it just fine, but don't see the greatness. After a while, some of the songs started sounding the same to me. I feel like the drums are often too heavy. I will say, I love Disarm, especially the acoustic version (track 17)

This was a lot better than I expected, I’d go as far to say I enjoyed it

Has that wall of guitar sound that comes across kinda dated to me now. Some catchy bits throughout but it all comes down to the fact that I don't like Billy Corgan's voice.

I would have rated this a lot higher in High School, but it's still not bad. I certainly wouldn't' change the radio if any Smashing Pumpkins came on, but it still feels very "of the decade".

This album gave me a really big headache, then I thought it was class, then I thought it was alright. There should be a list of ones to go back to.

I like Today, but not a big Smashing Pumpkins fan overall. I think maybe because his voice is annoying.

It has some hits but didn't do it for me overall

grunge but not too angry

I can imagine if I was a moody 90s teen living in Seattle (or Chicago) this would really appeal to me. But I’m not, and it doesn’t.

Okay, I dont love the pumpkins, all kinda sounds the same to me.

Love the instrumentals. Not a huge fan of 90s rock but I liked this album. Stand out tracks: Cherub rock, Quiet, Today, Soma

7.7/10

few great moments but way too long

Kinda goes on too long, but pretty good. Has a few fantastic songs.

Noteworthy songs were today, hummer, and soma

Grunge, all the sound the same after an initial different start. Dddit, dddit drumming and lot and lots of distortion. Listened to it but wouldn't listen again.

Tried and fail to get past the whiney vocals.

I kind of hate Billy Corgan's voice lol

I don't like 90's rock. The drums sound nice though.

Just so boring.

This is di-rect-ly in my wheelhouse. Contemporaneously I mean. And it was massively popular on the scene. I hated it then, I’m not too keen now. But it’s not quite as bad as I used to say. I’ll give her a 1.51 so that it can round up

I thought I would like this album - I didn’t. Cringed me out because I felt like it was trying to be cool. I liked ‘soma’ but that was it. Wont be listening to it again but gave it a 2 instead of a 1 because I can appreciate the music in some parts

Its ok

Heavier than I expected. Not in the right listening frame of mind, unfortunately. Will listen again some time.

Very long. Got fed up with vocal store.

Almost three

Pas ma came

Billy's voice, ugh. Billy's personality, double ugh. I will groove to "Cherub Rock" and "Mayonnaise" is the only SP song in my personal music library so I can't deny there are some great moments here.

This is the kind of album they play in thrift shops way too loud and I’ve trained myself to drown it out lest I be overstimulated. Which doesn’t bode well for my ranking of this album but I’ll try to be fair. I kind of liked it !! I like the sound but nothing stood out to me. A part of me wants to listen to it more and a part of me wants to not bother with it again and that internal battle lands this album at a 2 for now I’m afraid.

Enjoyed listening to this.

Grunge is not a genre I can listen to for more than an hour or so and the Smashing Pumpkins make 2+hr long albums. Not bad but hard to listen to for 2+hrs straight.

Nope

I didn’t hate this as much as I expected. Which, given its score, tells you how much I was expecting to hate it.

Musically interesting but that one note whining from billy corgan is intolerable

Entiendo que pueda gustar, y también se que con el tiempo me va a empezar a copar más, pero tampoco la pavada. La expectativa me hace pensar que en forma de chiste es una verga masiva.

I’m not a big smashing pumpkin fan to begin with. It kind of sounds the same throughout the album. Some good stuff but I wouldn’t listen to it with my own free will again. Some good guitar tones tho.

Vond deze erg heftig soms haha

Fun to hear the hits but overall not for me

It was at a Smashing Pumpkins concert that I became aware of the studio wizardry that goes into making the band I was hearing live sound like they do on an album. That was during the Melon Collie and the Infinite Sadness tour, who's namesake I like less than this album. However I don't like Billy Corgan's voice at any time, pre or post-studio wizardry..

They’re calling it the most Okay rock album of all time. What if we took everything great about my bloody valentine and stepped on it? Literally stepped on it? These songs are so fucking flat. Why do so many of them 5+ minutes?? They overstay their welcome!! Cherub Rock is great. Mayonaisse is great I can’t lie.

Luna’s not bad. If the album were instrumental I’d rate it a 3. Idk what it is about his voice but I instantly tune out. Like for a good chunk of this record I forgot I was listening to music.

The songs that have made it into the zeitgeist stand out for sure. I think mostly I just glaze over with this. Part of it is the vocals for sure. His voice just doesn’t do it for me. It’s not offensive to listen to, just doesn’t resonate. The guitar tones are dope, but I feel like it’s missing a weight that I need from it, production wise and emotionally.

No es de mi agrado la verdad, la puedo escuchar, pero no me guardaria ningun tema.

Very whiny and long-winded, after three songs I was already checking if I was close to done. Not my thing.

Un poco aburrido el disco, de la mitad a la última canción se pone mejor, pero me parece que no es el mejor disco del grupo

Second Smashing Pumpkins album on this list, and the same reaction as the first. I just don't like this band. It's not even that all their songs are terrible - it's just that the whole presentation from the nasally, whispery vocals to the irritating guitar tone perpetually grates. There's enough decent material on here to bump it above hopeless, but I really don't want to hear anything more from this band.

Harrdorck, Metall was ist das, es hört sich ambivalent an, Man meint immer das nächste stück wird besser...

Too noisy in general. Disarm is great.

no me gustó, guardé un par de temas (los más livianos) pero los demás son demasiado pesados, es un rock que te agota rápido y no son muy distintos los temas entre sí, me aburrió en su mayoría, la voz del cantante no me gustó

I liked a few songs, but this is mostly not for me.

Every time I listen to "Belong" by the Pains of Being Pure at Heart, it makes me really want to give Siamese Dream another chance. And every time I listen to Siamese Dream, I think the guitars sound incredibly cool for a few minutes before I get tired of Billy Corgan after "Today" is over. Except for that one time I made it to "Disarm" before I got tired of him, of course. It's still way too long for me to want to listen to it all that much, but those guitars really do sound cool.

Ich mag den Gitarrensound und die Drums. Der Gesang ist für mich wie eine Gabel auf einer Tafel.

"the cia cancelled rock"

Good album Song I like: Today, Disarm, Luna

Meh

I’ve listened to this album a fair few times now and at this point I’m happy to say it just doesn’t click with me the same way it seems to for most people, judging by its average rating (at the time of writing, only 10% of reviewers have given fewer than 3 stars). There is clearly some quality here, but it’s buried underneath an overbearing, abrasive and pretty unmelodic ‘wall of guitar overdubs’. More significantly, however, I just can’t get on with Billy Corgan’s voice, which by the end of the (in my opinion, too long) album is rather grating.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again but I just don’t vibe with 90s music in general. This just does nothing for me. Some of the songs are fine, have some cool moments, but overall it just annoys me somehow.

Ugh. Boring.

Better than Melan Collie purely for shorter run time with less filler. Not as many banger tracks but much more digestible. Again, this one could be trimmed down, especially the longer running songs. I like "Silverfuck" but at over 8 mins...it dragged. "Disarm" is the best one with the other known hit "Today" doing the heavy lifting. "Cherub Rock" and "Luna" not bad either. The gritty guitar and whiny Corgan work better on Siamese Dream. Not as annoying. Still not a huge fan of Smashing...2.37 stars.

Naja neh

Reading the other reviews on here, this album not very surprisingly holds a lot of weight for a lot of people who have been listening to it more or less since the 90s. I’m coming at it from a slightly different perspective. I liked this album a lot at the time, and I was excited to catch them when they stopped in my town for Lollapalooza 94, but they were absolutely horrendous live. If you think I’m exaggerating, here’s an account of it by Tom Zillich in the Peace Arch News: “Chicago’s Smashing Pumpkins, on the other hand, headlined the festival, and that day in Cloverdale is universally remembered as a horrible one for singer/guitar player Billy Corgan and his crew. My pal Cory Raven remembers the Pumpkins as “the worst live performance I’ve ever seen, to this day.” “Corgan wasn’t great live at the best of times, but I think he was intentionally singing horribly that night,” Raven recalls. “It sounded like a wounded bird with a bad cold. It was shockingly bad to the point where when you saw people in the days and weeks after and Lollapalooza came up in conversation, someone would often mention how bad the Pumpkins were.” Source: https://peacearchnews.com/2020/04/03/photos-the-day-28000-lollapalooza-goers-rocked-cloverdale-in-1994/ I don’t know how many live bands I’ve seen since. Hundreds, certainly, possibly in the low thousands, and they rank among the worst. For a band of that stature and size, absolutely the worst and it’s not even close. As a teenager who deeply felt their music at the time, it felt crushing, and turned me against the band. With the distance of a little over thirty years, and very few feelings of generosity towards the band, this an okay, if not great listen. Billy Corgan’s much-lauded guitar sound is massively overrated. It’s compressed and saturated and while it sounds huge, it totally lacks dynamics. The lyrics are mostly angsty cliches, which was the style of the time, and they haven’t improved with time and perspective, but it does feel less bloated and self-indulgent than it did on Mellon Collie. Sometimes it comes together and works though, particularly on the moments where the band allows for some relative quiet, like on “Disarm”, “Soma”, and what is the highlight of this album for me, “Mayonnaise”. Though it’s largely external to the music itself, some moments of this album did make me think back to being a teenager listening to this. I’m certain that I didn’t feel as light and as free as I’m remembering it, but the problems of being a teenager feel small in retrospect.

for how much hype the smashing pumpkins get, i found this boring and uninspired.

I know a lot of people really like the Smashing Pumkins. They were never my thing, I tried, and I treid again today. But alas, for me it's a no, for me it i a 2.

over an hour of sound

Milquetoast rock. Meh.

Boring?

Could use a remaster. So muddy

Was alright but not a super big fan since I generally don't like this era of grungy rock. 2/5

Sometimes chaotic, sometimes annoying, sometimes melodic. Always surprising.

Prima

Zu laut.

Noisy teenage angst. I didn't need this.

Ärsyttävän kuuloista tuo Corganin määintä. Eikä nuo biisitkään erikoisia ole, kaks pinnaa.

I just really don't like rock music that much, some of the songs were fine especially when they had more of an acoustic sound to them. Disarm, Sweet Sweet, and Luna were by far the best examples of that.

Ugh I like smashing pumpkins and maybe I was just in a mood but this album sucked lmao (besides the songs I already had on my liked)

I love alternative rock but it was Too heavy rock for me, ik the vibe wasnt just for me but i enjoyed trying to listen it for some minutes.

Neviem to dopocuvat Raz sa este pokusim 😶

This is not good.

12/01/2026 1. cherub rock - like the drums at the start! very 90s alternative rock, was def expecting that though. guitars are great, especially in the chorus. very angsty... bit emo for me... 2. quiet - love the sound at the start... guitar solo is reallllllly great!! same as the other song... too teenage-angsty 3. today - wasn't mad about it at the start, but just got to the chorus and loving it! beatles lyrics! just not enjoying it.... generally not a big fan of american 90s indie rock, sometimes, the vocals and lyrics get a bit grating. *4. hummer - had a break to go to college and have come back with a full blown cold. not looking forward to the next hour of my life :( the intro to this sounds like one of the songs by lightning bolt i had to listen to a few days ago.... bass is really nice in this one. like the slower, mellower instruments. not looking forward to the vocals though.... just not my thing :/ the lyrics are nicer (at least at the start) in this one though... less whiny/emo. liking the quieter part almost five minutes in... very lovely soft guitar, i know the whole point is the grungey, aggressive guitars, but this is more my jam. love how dreaaammmmyyy it is <3 5. rocket - sounds like a rockier slowdive song. was looking forward to this album going into it as they seemed like a band i would like, but am rethinking this now.... 6. disarm - i can feel my stress rashes getting worse as i get deeper into this song.... liking the more orchestral sound, but his voice is so grating to me and i hate the emo lyrics with that bloody whiny voice. sounds so 90s and i have no nostalgia for it, so i literally do not care!! just boring to me.... not even fun to listen to. 7. soma - please stay quiet..... liking the softer sound... liking the softer vocals more as well. still leaning a bit emo. loving the bass and guitar..... like hummer, but dreamy throughout rather than just at the end. just got loud. killing myself. i like the distortion, but it's too much for me. 8. geek usa - just fuzzy guitars layered on top of each other.... barrage of noise and not in a good way - especially with the bloody vocals on top. love when the songs get dreamy and quieter though!!!! 9. mayonaise - quieter, more psychadelic guitar at the start.... the louder guitar objectively sounds really great, but is just not for me. it seems to be the entire draw of this album though, which is making this a miserable listen. 10. spaceboy - bob dylan reference?? again, loving the more dreamier songs... reallly love the keyboard? (doesn't entirely sound like a keyboard but i cannot think properly right now) in the back.. 11. silverfuck - back to noise :( might try some of these songs on a day where i can actually breathe properly and don't have a headache. really loving the distorted guitar, but cannot connect to the music in any way. about halfway through the song and a gorgeous, soft, wavey guitar has just started.... very echoey, shoegazey.... thinking of different ways to say dreamy..... 12. sweet sweet - thank god this one is shorter. my headache has significantly worsened since starting listening to this.... liked this one though.... *13. luna - liking the start of this. very sweet :) can hear it building up.... not just distorted guitars piled up on each other until it becomes noise!! love the strings in the back. even though i loved this one, cannot say i'm not overjoyed that this is over now... probably not the best album to listen to when all congested with a banging headache. why is this album so long. can't say i would ever listen to any of these songs again.... i really liked the quieter songs, but a lot of this album is constant loud hard/grunge rock, which isn't always my thing. whiny 90s american singers are also a hate of mine (cannot listen to rem, they might be giants or most pavement songs as a result), so did not enjoy the vocals... the softer vocals (like in luna) didn't grate me as much. some of the lyrics were a bit emo and annoying.... but some were also really great! feels like something i'd like on paper, but don't feel anything except sheer boredom when listening to most of the songs :/

Not really my thing

C'est pas la première fois que j'essaie ce groupe mais vraiment j'arrive pas à accrocher je crois. Je les vois bien dans un film mais pas à écouter seul comme ça pour moi

realmente no es mi tipo

Ya guardé la mejor canción de este álbum

not for me, generally just not a rock fan at all

Wegweisendes Album, aber ich hasse einfach die Stimme von Billy Corgan

Made it halfway thru. Idk it sounds like something I would like but I wasn't meshing with any songs 2/10

Nothing

Energetic, with a couple of big hits. The lead singer has detestable politics and beliefs.

Sok

good example of grunge

Disarm Mayonnaise Luna

Its fine..pretty good 5/10

This one is a challenge. I would probably like Smashing Pumpkins a lot except for one big thing: Billy Corgan’s vocals (also Billy Corgan himself but that’s not really relevant here). He sounds like a strangulated cat and that’s being kind. The songs alone? Pretty good. But I just can’t get past his voice so it’s all ruined for me. It’s pretty hard to ignore a lead singer, you know?

This took me back to high school. I was never a big SP fan, tbh the guys voice annoys me. Probably wouldn't listen again.

Maybe I don’t like the smashing pumpkins

I don't like Smashing Pumpkins, mostly because of Billy Corgan's awful singing. There are a few songs on here that I like, and where I can kind of overlook Billy's voice. So, I guess this likely ranks as my favorite Smashing Pumpkins album, but that belies the general sense of loathing I feel for Smashing Pumpkins.

No album should be more than about 40 minutes. This album is no exception and would have been a better one with 25 minutes cut. I liked some of it, better it was too long and the lack of curation really hampered my enjoyment.

Bändi on kova ja varmaan runollista sanoitusta mutta laulaja kuulostaa välillä koiran vinkulelulta

The best way I can describe this album is that it makes me feel carsick without being in a car.

Too much smashing and not enough pumpkins! I don't have the level of angst needed to relate to this album. Too many songs that sounded the same and not a sound I particularly enjoyed. They kept tricking me with varied nicer/gentler starts to songs just to return to exactly the same noise as all the other songs. Liked (most of) the second half a lot more than the first, but was already somewhat done with the whole album. Favourite song: Sweet Sweet Least: Silverfuck (could have been a lot of them but this one was longest)

Band is good Corgan is not

I've always managed to resist Smashing Pumpkins. Too much anger, not enough soul. Each to their own. Siamese Dream did little to cause a rethink. It's not a bad album. It even has its moments with Today. But it sounds like an album that makes you want to hibernate in the bedroom, rather than get out there and get shit done. I choose getting shit done.

Too slow

Inte riktigt min kopp. Inte dåligt men kommer antagligen aldrig lyssna igen.

Slaps roof of cd. You can fit so many of the same distorted guitar sound and bad vocals in this bad boy

Didn’t really enjoy this. It had its moments, but overall it is dull and uninspiring. Very overrated band. Good for what it is, but no plans on revisiting.

dosadno, predugo. ima fora momenata, al većinom je zaboravljivo. u2 malo ngl

Kände mig mer öppen än jag förväntade mig när jag lyssnade, men tycker tyvärr att utförandet känns märkligt och jag vibear inte alls med låtuppbyggnad o flowet dom har i flera låtar. Och då bortser jag ifrån hur lite jag tycker om sångarens röst..

Never really dug them. Mayonnaise and Zero are good, Today is fine. The rest is just there. I know my opinion is unpopular

Was okey, nothing special tbh.

Nirvana-lite delivers yet another boring album, sounding like all other alt rock from the 90s. I love a good dirty guitar tone, but when it’s on every song, they all start to mush together. On top of that, I’ve always had a disdain for Billy Corgan’s vocal style. I can’t understand a word he says and all his melodies sound the same to me. I don’t hate this album, but i definitely won’t listen to it again. It’s too repetitive for my taste, and the sonic palate on display doesn’t jive with me

Good start of the grunge genre. Will always be a nirvana fan though

Instrumentally it's great, but Billy Corgan's voice has always been really grating to me.

Some songs needed to be shorter. Some unmusical stuff and too much distortion. Some good songs in there.

Always found the pumpkins overrated. Liked gish and theres a few good songs on this and melon collie. But overall not a fan.

I don’t get the appeal. They have a few good songs, but everything except “Sweet Sweet” sounds the same on this album: droning, crunchy guitars, few hooks, and Billy Corgan, who ‘sings’ like he’s pushing out a painful shit on each track. I really can’t stand Corgan’s voice nor his whole personality.

The plague of good music aligned with a terrible vocal and worse lyrics continues.

Another familiar album, which I've not listened through that many times, atleast with thought and focus. It feels like a lot of filler songs with the classic hits and few other great songs. The music feels quite dated, especially the grander songs, not something I can honestly say about some other albums of the era that I still like. Smashing Pumpkins never was on my top list for anything, but I've listened to my share of Mellon Collie. In the streaming era tho only few songs have even entered my playlists and only very specific reasons. The band is quirky, grandiose and a bit long winded.

The whole album is not it, but there are a few songs that stood out to me and that I've added to my favorites.

A little too long, and some songs become very whiny. Misses out on the cinematic nature of Mellon collie and that hurts it.

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(A3/V5)

tried to get into this before and did again but i just can't

Gotta love a million compressed guitars blowing up on every chorus. Add that to any song ever and you have a better song. The birthday song, the 1-800-kars-4-kids jingle, the soundtrack to Avatar... all would be immensely improved with dense exploding layers of guitars. Unfortunately, that's the only thing good on this album, and it only happens on a few songs. The "ballads" are bad, Corgan's voice has no real range, and the drums are recorded weird. A handful of songs are worth listening to every so often but they are repetitive and boring. Oh well, worth a listen every decade or so.

I can see the appeal but it’s just really not my type of music tbh. 37/100

Never liked these guys. I guess I don't understand the appeal.

Maybe stunning 30 years ago. Felt a bit overblown and indulgent. Made me want to listen to Nirvana. BC is now a wrestling promoter.

meh didn’t listen to the full thing, was not inspired

Standard sludge rock. Kind of a one trick pony but listenable

I really just couldn't get into it. hated his voice and just lacked cohesion/good melodies good moments but overall not a fan

Somehow this feels like it drags on longer than Mellon Collie.

nothing special to be honest

Billy corgans voice is an acquired taste that I can't seem to acquire

Never been a huge Smashing Pumpkins fan. After listening to this album, I still am not

This album didn't really do it for me, perhaps it is my lack of nostalgia for my formative years but Smashing Pumpkins was never on my radar except for the mega hits that you even hear on your generic local radio. I was surprised how many shoegaze elements and how prominent thick guitar driven walls of sounds were. I think the production is great and despite liking these atmospheric guitar drenched riffs that are layered, it was not that engaging. Songs meander on way to long for my taste and I know that the vocals are often a hot debate but I thought it was fine. It all works but it wasn't for me. I feel that songs require a bit more dynamic range or other elements to make them stand out more. It all kind of sounds the same to be frank. However, there were some really good songs here that I like Soma which had a bit more going for it. Disarm is also a nice departure from other songs. I don't think I'll revisit this any time soon.

Fine. Feels like a soundtrack you'd hear at a Bushwick thrift store. A few standouts, but suffers from the double LP length problem

There’s a fine line between an album that represents a cohesive sound and one where the artist shows too much of their range & produces an incoherent set of (possibly very good) songs. This album demonstrates the other end of the spectrum: when the focus on the band’s sound results in a bunch of songs that all seem the same. The sound here is recognizable (probably because it was pouring out of every radio & speaker in the late 1990’s), but it’s hard to tell one song from the next. Testosterone-driven lyrics over a wall of guitar power-chords — got it, don’t need to keep listening.

Not my favorite Punkins, but still pretty formative for me. Some songs stand out as absolute classics of the genre. Others are tiring. I just realized on this listen why I have such a hard time listening to SD straight through, and I think it’s the wall of noise attack with no dynamic range. It just tires me out after a while. Melon Collie is still the best for showcasing some different styles and sounds. Also, looking back, how did we give Billy a pass for that voice?! It’s so bad. I’m ok with not-great singers (see 5-star Dylan rating) but he is just terrible.

Sounded okay to me, the more I listened the more I hated the lead singer's voice. Felt similar to listening to Nickelback and eventually I tried to tune out the lead singer's voice. Its unique and all, but after a while its so tiring to listen to.

Kid's menu Deftones

5/10

I don't understand what they mean, and I could really give a f*ck.

I love Today and Disarm, but other than that the songs all sound the same. Good live band, bad listening band.

Boring. Too many songs, each one is too long, and they all sound the same. The 90s were a musical sinkhole.

extremely 90s

I can tell this is good and was fun to listen through once, but 'cause I'm not a rock fan not many stood out particularly EXCEPT: Today which is sweet. Gorgeous guitar on Hummer. Luna is lovely too.

Ok sound.

Billy Corgan can make some songs very good, some highlights like Spaceboy, but to me a bit too slow.

A little noisy for me.

I was underwhelmed by this album.

Not catching fire for me!

Decent voice and talented musicians but unmusical tunes. Can’t dance, can’t repeat them. Just why. 2.5/5

Full disclosure: I’m not a huge Pumkins guy. Hitsene er def hits, men syntes ikke albumet var så engaging som en helhetlig greie.

1. Disarm 2. Cherub rock 3. Mayonnaise Er en 2.5 for meg. Only so much Billy Corgan I can take.

urban beat, rock, 1993 -> 2

Intense, with some interesting dynamics and good guitar sounds, but essentially this is a band venting at length, loud and long, and repetitively. Wearing. Tiresome. Unrewarding. 2 stars

Definitely liked some of the songs, but probably wouldn’t re-listen or gravitate towards it.

Not my cuppa tea. Mayonnaise is good.

Realizing that there are very few AltRock bands that I'd sit and listen to for over an hour

p706. 1993. 2 stars. Noisy, shouty Nirvana wannabees without the talent, plus they have a whiny lead vocalist. There's a couple of decent tunes, but it's still a slog to listen all the way through. And no-one needs multiple +5 minute tracks. Pass.

Competent but never held my attention for more than a minute

I’m surprisingly not a fan of this album. I just don’t like his voice I guess. And I found all the songs to be quite similar and I wasn’t vibing. But I know it’s a popular album and like so many people have these songs in their playlists. It would be an album I have to listen to multiple times to actually get.

Lekkere rock, maar niet mijn soort rock

Good for passive listening but didn't really hook me as other albums did.

Good band from the 90’s. Some good songs.

Cherub Rock has a nice fuzzy guitar. Vocals are laid back and poppy. Distinctly 90s. Drums are punchy. The band members sound like they're having fun. Good opener. Quiet has crunchy doom laden guitars. Even the solo has effects on it that make sound more like Nirvana than Judas Priest. So far this album is a fuzzy dreamy wall of noise. I find it pleasant. Today has a nostalgic riff that sounds like summer break. The fuzz makes its return. Billy's vocals are soft and vulnerable. This is the type of song you'd listen to with your crush on a first date. Hummer is making me wish the production wasn't so washed out with guitar noise. The album cover reflects the samey tone of it all. Rocket isn't worthy of note. Disarm has some nice strings. I like this one. Soma has a psychedelic vibe. Nice guitar solo on this one. It's like they were getting better towards the end of recording this album. Geek USA has an interesting break in the middle that sounds mystical. Guitar is more varied at this point. This is the best track so far. Mayonaise is a sweet song. Sweet Sweet is a interlude. Luna is a sappy love song. Overall this albums is pretty homogeneous and kind of sits in the background. It didn't grab my attention particularly. I won't return to it.

I have to agree with one reviewer who said there is just too much ego in this album. Mixed bag: definitive overall sounds but discordance over-used and yes, lead is bit whiny.

There's this guitar tone that drones on under every song - except Disarm. As least I think it's there. If I am imaging it - then it's a pretty vivid mirage. Cause I imagine it's on every song - except Disarm. Maybe there's a hum that is created when 26 tracks of guitars converge. Whatever it is - it's something. Cause there's a hum. It's there. All the songs have it - except Disarm. Maybe thats just the sound of the album - and the sound of the 90s - all the songs blend into a single tone - a hum - except Disarm. That is the only triumph over the hum.

Really only enjoyed the two recognizable songs. The whiney vocals are difficult to get past. The grungy guitars only worked sometimes for me.

indie rock

No bueno

Not my sound.

Not a sound that works for me. I wasn’t listening to current music when this came out - just Baby Beluga and other kid’s songs. This made me anxious

Too hard core for me, but I hear the talent and artistry

I liked mayonnaise but I don’t really like anything else this album is hard to listen to

Half way through and can't help being reminded of Solstice. Not because they sound like them, far from it. They could hardly be more different. But more because I feel I ought to like it, but there is just some indefinable quality that means I don't. It is most peculiar. Very reminiscent of a band called JJ72 but with this lot I just get bored half way through each track. Can't give any more than a 2, and it's better than a 1.

I really thought I would like this album more than I ended up. Towards the first half of the album I was very excited- the first strong started off really strong and the next few that followed had an amazing rock sound to them. However, after about the fifth or sixth track I started getting really just annoyed by the voice and the sound.

apart from today, I found this to be sooo samey. total znoozefest too.

Some incredible hits here but smashing punkin sound wears out it's welcome over the course of an album

When I was young, I had a Guitar-Hero Knock off on my iPhone and Cherub Rock was one of the hardest songs. SInce I had no friends I played it so much, that I was able to sing along. Anyways, thanks for the flashback, no need to repeat.

90s grunge music was never my thing. I feel the album starts well but gets boring as it progresses. there are songs at the start where you can see they are trying to do something different and something that is a bit more than 90s grunge. The album has moments and great melodies. I would explore more smashing pumpkins. Favourite song: Disarm Least favourite: the latter half ot the album Album artwork: A bit creepy.

Not for me. I might have enjoyed this when it first came oout but it does nothing for me now.

not for me.

Well we missed Cherub Rock in trivia so it shows how memorable I thought that album was after listening. Pretty unremarkable

I was surprised to see how highly regarded this album is because I found it fairly dull. Even the songs I recognized from Guitar Hero weren't doing it for me. A great example of grunge, but an indication that I don't like the genre so much as I like Nirvana. Makes sense since at its core, grunge is a fusion of punk rock and heavy metal, both genres I don't particularly enjoy as much. EDIT: shamefully missed “Cherub Rock” in the music trivia “songs from rock band” category the day I listened to this song twice. Kind of proves my disinterest.

Billy and the Boys were the darlings of the FM radio station of my youth. I never appreciated his whiny voice or their obnoxiously fuzzy guitar sound. Disarm and Today are ok but only out of familiarity. Aside from that: not for me.

I've never been a huge fan of the vocals of the singer. This album was pretty uninspiring for me, and not memorable. A few things here and there were interesting to me but nothing worth coming back to for me. Maybe 3 but probably more like 2.5

4/10 - It is about the same as the other smashing pumpkins album. I felt the same feelings of he cannot sing and the album is screamy. I sort of liked the beginning of mayonnaise but once he started singing it went downhill greatly,

Not my cup of tea

I see why people enjoy the Smashing Pumpkins. It personally just isn't for me

Never got into Smashing Pumpkins too much. When they were a big deal, I was exploring other things.

Nowhere near as good as the other one, shame

meh. It was cool when I was 14

Long dose of nothingness.

Honestly, nothing special. It has decent songs, but nothing really grabbed me

Two good songs.

Alt rock sounds like construction noise to me. I have come to really dislike heavily distorted guitar and drums too high in the mix. Honestly, I find typical alt rock drum grooves to be boring as they're so repetitive, even when they are done well, as they are here. In one song, the guitar tone made me laugh. "Disarm", an acoustic song, was listenable. This album just isn't interesting to me. In fact, I started to ge angry at it and didn't get through the whole thing.

Better than Mellon Collie, but that may be largely because it's shorter. I quite like the music but I can't get past Corgan's voice.

Meh. It was fine; I liked some of the quieter/more instrumental stuff but overall would give this one a pass

I cannot abide by Billy Corgan's constant solipsistic, combative and narcissistic attitude. I also, like many, subjectively do not like his voice. That said, his voice objectively works with his compositions, which are very good and the musical performances on this album are clearly great. Never having listened to an entire Pumpkins album before straight through, this was daunting, but I was carried through by the caliber of the executions, thankfully. Straight til the last track, Luna, where a repeated "I'm in love with you", every emotion falls flat except anger. Corgan simply doesn't convey anything other than rage in a believable fashion. It's as if he's doing his best to capture what others feel. Fortunately there's plenty of rage to go around, and the quality of the music is so on point, that for many it does not matter.

I wish I liked this. Musically it's great but not a fan of Billy Corgans voice. Can absolutely see why people like them and I can hear other artists have been influenced since this album but I think I missed the boat with the pumpkins. 2/5

Eäh eipä vieläkään kovin paljon kiinnosta tämä bändi. liian poppista. 2/5

OK, not one of my favorite bands. A couple of good songs.

Listening to this album made me remember why I disliked The Smashing Pumpkins back in the day. The devil's in the details, like how some tracks drag on to the point where they get repetitive, or how the vocalist's voice sometime isn't mixed well and is too quiet compared to the instrumentation. Some of the slower tracks have the potential to be epic, but are dragged down by the vocalist who's got an unpleasant, 'whiny' quality to his voice. I will say though that a couple of songs like Mayonnaise, Soma, Cherub Rock, Disarm and Hummer are worth a re-listen, even if I really dislike the vocals on this album.

Just a bit dull, innit. Favourite track: Soma.

songs were good but I can't stand the vocalists voice

I just can't enjoy the monotonous sludge of distorted guitars and Corgan's petulant whine.

Alternativ rock, 90’er, grunge

Instantly recognizable as a band. They found their space in the scene and I understand their popularity. The songwriting is alright, and the band also sounds tight. But I just can't tune into their music, stylistically the production sounds too crisp. Corrigan's voice is grating and the songs don't stick with me. I appreciate the fact that the lyrical themes are dark, in a way that seems genuine. But it's easier to relate to that if you dig the music (which I experience when I listen to Alice in Chains)

Too much screaming and minor chords

Nope.

Ja, dit is gewoon een rock album. Niet te verwarren met een ruk album. Ik vind er niet heel veel aan, vind de rustigere nummers wat mooier dan de schreeuwende gitaren nummers. Maar altogether vind ik dit niet een heel erg bijzonder album. Het voelt voor mij echt als een 13 in een dozijn rockalbum. Ik vind zijn stem ook niet zo prettig, das beetje jammer want ik denkd at als dit je ding is dat het een sterk album is. FAVO: Disarm, Soma, Spaceboy

I'm still fresh from not really liking another Smashing Pumpkins album just three or four days ago so hopefully after two I'm done with them. I still don't like the singer's voice and I'm just not a grunge fan.

Some good songs but didn't really enjoy the album as a whole

Sorry, Smashing Pumpkins is not for me. This one is better than Mellon Collie, but only just.

I got through 2 songs, they kinda overplayed and whiny… if I want that vibe I’ll listen to the deftones as they make me head bang 🤘🏼 more … pumpkins are just melancholy without the metal

Meh

Honestly, boring.

De que me suena a mí esto??

Que tostón, tío. Suenan a lo mismo que weezer, pero con un rollo de adolescente castigadito insufrible. No es mal disco. Pero tío, que castigo.

I liked Rocket, but I found the album kind of boring. I have never been a huge fan of Billy Corgan’s voice outside of select tracks, so I won’t hold it against them. I liked the use of strings and varied percussive elements, I just wanted something with more hook, admittedly more like Bullet With Butterfly Wings.

For strong of a full album listening music fan that I am I'm really surprised that I've never listened to this album in it's completion before because this was really popular when I was a returning student at UCSC and there must have been somebody I knew that had a copy of it but I never made an effort to listen to it. I have mixed feelings about this album, so far it's kind of been a little disappointing because it just sounds like a swamp of like sounding songs but then KILLER IN ME KILLER IN YOU comes on and I have memories of thinking oh this must be a really good band but yeah, after listening to the other songs on the album it's just they're just kind of okay. the lead singers voice wears on me after awhile.

not as Whininy ans nasal as I remember it. but it is still very whiny and very nasal. i am not at all a fan. but people around me are. and I have never understood why I really tried. I went in trying to fight my bias and be objective. but I failed. I just dont like his voice. but many others do. and that is fine. Personally if I never need to hear Billy Corgon again i will be very happy. the music was great but

Didn’t hate but didn’t love. It was alright but not my type of genre

I always get the Smashing Pumpkins and Scouting for Girls mixed up even though they sound nothing alike. After listening to this album, it’s no longer a mystery; they’re utterly forgettable!

Really slow and they all sounded very similar. Maybe that's just the signer voice over the music doing that but it did nothing for me. Petty sure I have heard some of these songs in the background of films/ TV shows. Probably won't go back and listen again This is not what I needed on a Saturday. I wanted something to get me moving

I wanted to like it more, don’t know if I had a better sound set up I’d enjoy it but I struggled to hear the music cutting through the noise. No songs stood out to me but I liked how it finished

Nicht meins

Never really listened to The Smashing Pumpkins and this album won't change that. A couple of songs are ok, the rest I found quite boring. Not the right band for me.

If yacht rock was angry, this is what it would sound like.

Meh…Billy Corgan has to be one of the most overrated hacks of the last thirty plus years…decent guitarist but that cat whining voice is beyond annoying and the samey songs bore me to tears, Jimmy Chamberlain is a solid drummer though

Adolescent.

Meh

5/10

Not my favorite time for music. And this represents that sound very well.

Talk about a band thats gotten overshadowed by their lead singer being a jag. I can barely listen to this stuff now since it all seems so navel gazey and ridiculous. The only saving grace for them is the new guitarist that's playing for them now.

Not huge Pumpkins fan. Not a lot more to say

так, ну это не прошлые смэшинг пампкинс, тут в целом все норм, но есть некое ощущение отдаленности от движа, как будто весь объем куда-то далеко закинули и от этого драйвовости плотно так не хватило

meh

Generic grunge droning. A few memorable songs but mostly filler. Terrible lyrics when you can actually understand them. Very of its time. Not a great album.

2.5 honestly I just couldn’t get that into it. After a while the guitars started to all sound the same. I did like the song “Today”.

Worthy but unoriginal.

Wasn't a fan.

Consistent overall album, never the biggest fan

Meh, not really for me. I liked some of the slower or more orchestral songs (I think I'll like their next album more...), but the heavier stuff all kinda sounds the same and I'm not crazy about the vocals.

Cherub Rock, Soma, Geek USA

Not my thing, but there's a couple of decent tunes. That corgan tho.

It's no Homer Simpson, smiling politely

I was so excited to listen to smashing pumpkins, when I realized how little of their music I know. Really nothing special to me. All their songs sound too similar to me

I didn't like this album as much as I thought I would, all the components there it just didn't hit. The albums I rated three stars were way better but the one I rated two stars was way way worse so I think I should've rated that one a one star but oh well.

Boring drone

Not bad but not one I will rush back to