Siamese Dream

Waait, I already know and love some of these songs!

Surprisingly good

The album that told the world Smashing Pumpkins were here to stay. Excellent fuzz guitar work.

bom disco

Pretty great album but some of the songs blended together for me. Other than that, this album had some good riffs and lyrics. Fave track(s): Geek U.S.A., Mayonaise

Great US alternative rock music from the first half of the 1990s. Some songs are raw and have grunge influences. Billy Corgan's singing is so distinctive and overall the album has quite a unique sound. However, it is too long, it would have better as a short album.

I knew I liked it, but still it's been a few years since I listened to Siamese Dreams all the way through. Still a great album, and now tinged with sweet nostalgia.

Emotional Mayonaise

Yeah, I liked this a lot, but I'm a whore for some pumpkin bashers so what can I say. Yeah It's a 3.5 turned 4 because I think my ratings should reflect I like this era of rock way way more than previous.

Well this is a beautiful album - around 4/5ths of it is basically perfect - Smashing Pumpkins have truly their own unique sound down to the instrument level - and remarkably songs are at the same time memorable enough to classify as strong pop songwriting layered in the above mentioned unique arrangement and flavour. The last part feels a bit extra - suffering from the CD era’s indulgence in album length… were this released on a vinyl it would have been a 5/5.

Bliss

Rock guitars. Spooky singing. Good combo.

Super bompin album. Listening to it felt nostalgic and the music gave me a great sense of melancholy. The instrumentation was bangin and the vocals hit a sweet spot between gnarly and melodic.

Very well put together album. Flows from harder to more melodic smoothly.

One of my favourites from the early 90s. Thick layered guitar riffs, catchy melodies. My younger self perversely enjoyed the alternative-style awful nasal singing. Also has some tender sweet songs. “Mayonaise” still gives me goosebumps. Not sure what happened to the brighter clearer album cover - don’t much like the washed out monochrome version displayed now. Other than that, it’s a triumph.

Great album. Full of vibes. Loved it.

There were some songs I liked and some I didn’t. It’s a little long

A lot of The Smashing Pumpkins songs can sound very similar, so I do enjoy when there's some standouts, like in the second half of this album. It's a nice listen Saved tracks: Rocket, Disarm, Geek U.S.A., Sweet Sweet

Been ages since I listened to this but was right in the mood for it. Got a good amount of jangle too. Billy Corgan’s still never getting into my house though.

Billy C may have wanted to be the meanest, etc. but it's the sweeter songs that work best. He mainly fulfills his grand ambitions here, though the cleanliness of the production plus the catchiness of the hooks lends a vaguely bubble gum feel (presumably the opposite of the intended effect). It has deeper pleasures than one recalls from real time, and his preening self-importance's move into the rearview of time also makes it easier to enjoy.

90s angsty mood

90s super angsty

I must admit I already am a smashing pumpkins fan. Billy corgan has such an iconic voice its hard not to like. Cherub rock might be my favorite song of theirs. Today is a great song - I forgot about that one. Great tracks up and down this record. Only reason I didn't give a 5 is because I thought the album really slowed down at the song Silverfuck. If it ends before that its probably a 5 for me. 8/10 killer album!!

Enjoyed that, they're a band I've never taken the time to check out even though I should, some good stuff on it. Loved Mayonaise.

I liked this, but not quite as much as the rest of you did. The lead singer's voice probably stops it from being a 5, and it does drag a little, but it's still a great listen. Can tell that it's a good album by pretty much everyone having a different favourite song from it  A really good sound (love the ever so slightly self-indulgent guitar solo in Soma), could probably criticise the lack of variety but it's all pretty good so I don't want to! 4/5.

I've never really given Smashing Pumpkins much of my time, and this was a lot to digest at the first go– my only major critique of the album is that it feels a little long. But from the moment Disarm came on, I was completely onboard with the sound, completely taken by its narrative voice. The tracks on the back half really allow the songs to build from ballads to these full, raw tracks. I was just impressed by the range and the performances, even if I wasn't catching everything lyrically on the first listen. One I'll definitely have to go back to. But very, very impressed on the first go. Side note: prog rock albums don’t sound good in my car! So I nearly got the wrong impression. The guitars felt misleadingly busy on a system that had poor midrange. Glad I got it on a better system eventually.

This brings back fond memories of late night listens in Year 12, of learning bass with an old friend, of discovering alternative music. Mellon Collie has more good songs but this has some special moments.

Good

much better than i expected

Geiler droniger klang. Coole Melodien. Verrückte lyrics.

It was better than I expected. I had heard very little of the Smashing Pumpkins and what I had heard had not impressed me very much. The vocals are not to my taste in general, but getting past them to the music itself revealed an inventiveness and willingness to explore that is uncommon in a rock band. Just please change the vocalist - Billy Corgan's 'little boy' voice lets the band down. Keep him as guitarist, but find someone that has some depth to their voice.

Bish Bash Bosh - worked for me.... I love their vibe

Pretty good, although not usually my style.

Smashing Pumpkins were the first band I got really into as a 6 year old circa '95. Honestly I should probably give this a 3 since there's kind of a lot of filler here, but the handful of really good songs are still in the normal rotation, plus this album gets me feeling nostalgic. We'll call it a 3.5 rounded up.

Interestingly, it is only three days since the generator had me listening to Mellon Collie and the Infinite Pretension, which I kinda hated (or, at least, found very difficult to listen to all the way through). I loved Gish, so I will repeat the story… In 1991, I was working at Scratches Records, and I did the import ordering. One day, I was on the phone to Dogmeat Dave at Shock Distribution, and he said “Mate, I’ve a got a record that I think you would really dig”. I agreed to take a copy, and the Pumpkins first album “Gish” turned up. And I put it out for sale, and never listened to it. And it sat there for (at least) three months without anyone even looking at it. So I thought “well, I should at least listen to this thing”, and chucked it on the turntable. By the end of the first song I was hooked. It was heavy and fuzzy and trippy and I really dug it. So I bought that copy and took it home. And for the next six months I played it to everyone I could, and evangelised for the album. I played it a lot. My then flatmate and friend, Andy Winter, managed to track down a first U.S. issue coloured vinyl copy of Siamese Dream when it was first released for my birthday. Thanks Andy! I remember at the time I wasn’t _quite_ as enamoured of this record as I was with Gish. It felt a little more bloated, with a tendency towards ballads (Today, Disarm), and it certainly revelled in its misanthropy and angst (even more than Gish, which was a little bit trippier). These were forewarnings of what was yet to come in the interminable bloat-fest that is Mellon Collie. But it was still a pretty rockin’ album. I saw them play this live at the Big Day Out and Selina’s in 1994. They mostly played this album, and they really tore it up. Corgan’s ability to rip out a screaming lead line was a sight to behold. Listening to this record now, I probably like it better than I did then. The sound is HUGE, with massively overdubbed guitars, but with that fuzzy, all-tube tone. Corgan’s voice is still pretty whiny, but I feel like the harder rock material (Cherub Rock, Silverfuck, Geek USA, Quiet, etc) is a bit more suitable for a nasal vocal cutting through than his later penchant for ballads. Some reviews at the time criticised it for being too angsty and over-produced compared to Nirvana, who were “more authentic”. Corgan’s ambitions to produce a monumental album were seen as too careerist. But, frankly, Nirvana sold a ton of records, and also are largely driven by angst. I’m not too sure what the qualitative difference is. And, of course, this record and Nevermind were both produced by Butch Vig. (Note that the Pumpkins used him first, for Gish, which was recorded and released before Nevermind) Special note: this album was mixed by Alan Moulder. Part of what I have noticed as part of this project is how often his name pops up as an important contributor (engineering, producing, mixing) of many of the most important (and great sounding) records of the 1990s and beyond. Great work, Alan! Anyway, I really enjoyed listening to this heavy, fuzzy, angsty piece of hard rock again. This goes back on the rotation list.

10/13/22 Some great songs. Now I’m going to explore 90s rock

Original notes deleted. But immediately what I think of when somebody says “90s hard rock” but not in a bad way. Enjoy how lots of songs build with long instrumentals but wish there was more of a pay off like on Soma which is the best song. Overall can see the influence on lots of modern bands I love.

Insane guitar tones, great vocals. Some songs a bit long though imo.

This is good for what it is

Gorgeous, heavy blistering shoegaze-y noise with just a pinch of psychedelia. It's a bit long, and I think the record could've ended after "Spaceboy", but it's still a solid album throughout. Call it 4.5 stars. Favorite tracks: "Hummer", "Disarm", "Soma"

Ok Not as inspiring as expected

No sophomore slump for the Smashing Pumpkins. This record is a perfect blend of shoegaze, dreamy psychedelia, and grunge/alternative. What else can be said?

In the words of Shakin’ Stevens: lovely stuff

Grunge isn't usually my thing, but I really liked this. No particular tracks stood out, but it chugs along for an hour with an engaging energy and vibe. Rating: 3.5/5 Playlist track: Cherub Rock Date listened: 06/09/22

Listened to this a hundred times

Good to finally listen to this all the way through! I’ve been a fan of the Smashing Pumpkins forever, but mainly just their singles. I’ve even seen them live twice without ever having listened to a whole album of theirs. Oops? Anyway, outside of the hits I already knew, I actually wasn’t super interested in the rest of it. Oops?

Still good after all these years.

Great album, but a bit flat. Would definitely listen again

Really nice guitar and great pop rock sound

Potência do rock direto que possibilita envolver outras camadas de sonoridade.

Another band, I hadn't gotten around to listen to thoroughly and I'm happy I finally listened to Siamese Dream, a very fine record. There are elements of arena rock, classic rock, alternative and it's a bit grungy in parts, this album holds up pretty well, released almost 30 years ago. There was lots to like and most of it held my attention. I hear that this is The Smashing Pumpkins best record and it's good, so I should explore more of their discography soon. Hope the rest are at least half as good as this!

Mayonaise, Disarm, I forget how good some of SP was

I've heard all of Siamese Dream because someone else has put this album on to listen to. I've listened to several songs from this album and from TheSmashing Pumpkins in general. "Today" and "Disarm" are two tracks from this album that jump back into my personal rotation every now and then. Overall, the album feels like a strong 4 stars. No tracks felt like I should skip them, and some of the tracks are marked for replay.

Check

high 3 or low 4 - went with the 4

I was surprised by how many songs I liked.

Great album. Great voice. Not their best(personal opinion) but still a great album,

Not a big grunge fan, but some good stuff on here. “Mayonnaise” absolutely slaps. Enjoy some of the quieter moments. Maybe I’ll grow into this type of music more in future!

Outstanding album. Comfortably their best and, although not strictly grunge, one of the best from that era. Possibly second only to Nevermind.

Yummy yummy

good riffs. good songs. good.

One of the best albums to come out in the post-Nevermind era.

Just some solid 90's alt rock right here. I don't think it has that star factor the Mellon Collie does, but this is damn fine.

it's taken me almost 30 years to get around to listening to this. I'm a fool....should have listened sooner - great album, and thats after 1 x listen!

Billy Corgan is undeniably talented but I’ve never been the biggest fan of his voice. With this album, I actually liked the middle more than either end with the exception of cherub rock. Today is overrated

i put this on expecting to give it a three because i've always liked the singles but not the whole album but today this hit HARD. something about corgan's voice takes me back to being a little kid listening to the radio and thinking about how big the world was.

A este llegué después de MC&IS, pero también fue un disco de compañía allá en 1999. Recuerdo haber visto circular el vídeo de Rocket en MTV mucho antes de cuando finalmente caí en el disco, pero no me gustaba. Las visuales eran extrañas para mi y no recuerdo habermd dedicado a escuchar la música.

Enjoyable but I had to be in the right frame of mind!

I like a lot of The Smashing Pumpkins' music and I'm always impressed by Billy Corgan's songwriting, composition, and performance skills. Incredible musicianship and a severely underrated guitarist in my view (I think that's for two main reasons: (1) he's a singer, the frontman, and he's a multi-instrumentalist; and (2) his personality, or at least how it's shown to us via media). This was only their second studio album as a band, yet it shows complexity and a signature style. I don't love all the tracks on this album but it does contain some real gems. Really good stuff overall.

As much as I want to complain about these songs being "played out" on the radio or complain about my perceptions of Billy Corgan steadily degrading over time ... I just don't care, because this album is way too good. I also openly acknowledge my fondness for this album is likely unduly swayed by nostalgia. What really drew me into this album, and still endears me to it today, is that it is founded in the grunge/alt musical sensibility, but it goes way beyond the simplistic structures of that genre. The songs are full of contours. They have intros, transitions, swings in guitar effects, phrases that build and climb, pauses of calm punctuated with eruptions of fuzz blaring guitars. I think the tracks 'Soma', 'Mayonaise', and 'Silverfuck' demonstrates what I'm talking about perfectly. Some of the greatest tracks/moments on this album, that come to my mind are, the first 57 seconds of 'Cherub Rock', 'Hummer', 'Rocket', 'Soma', 'Silverf*ck', and 'Rhinoceros' - oops, wrong album.

3.5/5. Pretty decent grunge alt-rock.

Smashing Pumpkins were one of the first bands that I listened to and one of the first cds I ever bought. I enjoyed this album and it brought back a ton of nostalgia.

There were a couple of absolute bangers (disarm, cherub rock) but the rest of the album didn't really capture me all that much. Some songs are definitely in the rotation already/going into the rotation after this, but some are very forgettable.

Enjoyed very much always been a fan of Smashing Pumpkins

Never listened to a Smashing Pumpkins album in full before, actually enjoyed it. Some great tracks. 9/10

good one

Siamese Dream was part of my 90s/00s playlists. Some of these songs are perfect and have grown in me through the years: Quiet, Disarm, Rocket, Mayonnaise… It’s a great Alternative Rock piece that has influenced several artists for the last 30 years

Love it

There were a couple of absolute bangers (disarm, cherub rock) but the rest of the album didn't really capture me all that much. Some songs are definitely in the rotation already/going into the rotation after this, but some are very forgettable.

The guitars we so sick

I don't usually love this genre, but this has a pretty distinctive sound and I found myself surprised at how much l liked it.

This is so quintessential 90s. Time machines are real

Good stuff

I will always praise Corgan’s songwriting, but the production really makes it hard to listen to some of the heavier songs. The album shines when the songs are softer without his really bothersome distortion. Nevertheless, there are classic songs like Disarm and Today on this album. Worthy of a 4.

Great Album with a high quality of songs. Feels somewhat like a textbook alternative rock album

Muy Smashing Pumpkins.

It's a great album, although it is a bit more heavy metal than I might like, I gotta admit it's not bad. If you're looking for a powerful album that combines really strong instrumentals and powerful guitar with some not very clear lyrics, then this is your album. 'Today' is actually a brilliant song

Overall good album. Talented musicians and the sound is very 90s nostalgic.

I suspect I'd need to listen to this a few times to really get it.

4 stars

gott stuff

A doozy

Nevermind but not as good. Great textures for the first few songs.

War früher kein Mega Smashing Pumpkins Fan aber habs jetzt echt sehr genossen - Laut/leise, große Gesten und Gefühle, 90er as fuck, unique Gesang, Sound und tolles Songwriting

Great album. Alt Rock champions.

Excellent album, would recommend

i played cherub rock on guitar hero 3 back in like 2008. that game formed my music taste as a teen and unfortunately i didn't take to cherub rock that much. listening to it now i still don't but this album is nice. really regret not giving it a chance back then as i think it would have a had a healthy impact on me. the highlights for me on this album are the more quieter moments. they really shine.

Simply smashing

'I don't understand what they mean and I could really give a fuck' All jokes aside, this is a solid album - probably their best as it's more confident than Gish and more consistent than the fantastic-but-sprawling Melon Collie. Cherub Rock kicks things off with volcanic energy, Today is remarkably beautiful, and Disarm disarms me with a smile

It's an excellent album . Though it veers towards the metal side of things, not my favorite genre, from time to time, it dies so with a lack of bombast. The song remains the raison d'etre and the songs are generally catchy and melodic. I generally don't lo e the guitar sound but certainly not intolerable in context. 4.5 🌟

Such a good album

So, so much more enjoyable & listenable then Mellon Collie. Solid, propulsive rock.

Já conhecia e revisitei! Algumas músicas não me chamam muito a atenção, mas outras são simplesmente umas das melhores músicas do rock dos anos 90, e da história do gênero, de forma geral. Destaque para Cherub Rock, Hummer e Soma.

This is a rock masterpiece. Both 1) of a particular time, and 2) timeless. Mayonnaise is the underdog here and, for this listener, the beating heart of the album (along with Disarm). Corgan may be a bit of a douchebag, but he's also a fuckin' genius.

Un merescut clàssic dels 90. Els pasatges instrumentals, la ràbia postadolescent, el so convulsiu i algunes cançons especialment inspirades fan d'ell un dels discos més definitoris del so del rock alternatiu de la década

Good album! Felt like a classic.

No one else really sounds like Corgan at his best

Maybe I listened to this record too late. But you can tell which bands were influenced by this record and all of the subsequent pop-culture that came out immediately around its release. I'd listen to it again but probably wouldn't buy the record.

Listening this album makes me feel 15 again, but only in the good ways.

Great to listen to!

Surprisingly good

today was a huge deal when it came out, and it's a pretty good song, as is disarm; mayonnaise is the winner off this one for me, though. as a personal disclaimer, i am now and have always been a huge sucker for dreamy vocals and crunchy-washy guitars...which is, of course, their whole sound. that said...i've always kinda thought billy was just a bit of a tool, which makes it harder to really love their music. ...but this is still pretty durn good.

Decent

Excellent album.

This album meanders in places which is why I dropped a star, but damn me if it isn't worth 4 stars for Cherub Rock, Today and Disarm. I'm not the most ardent of Smashing Pumpkins fans due to Billy and the gang disappearing up their own bottoms for the next few albums. This album however is a testament to blend of sounds the band embraced, from Grunge to metal to Dream pop, Sonic Youth style noise and R.E.M.-like sensitivity.

4.34 Quintessential early '90s alt-rock album. Shoutout to the first minute of the track Soma— it made me stop working just to repeat and listen to it again. Trancelike in the best sense possible.

This is the album i think of when asked what the US Alternative music scene sounded like in the 90's. Its a bigger rock sound than most of their contemporaries attempted. They led the transition of Alt rock bans moving from the bars to the stadiums maintaining an underachiever vibe but borrowing hooks from classic stadium rock bands, all underpinned by powerful songwriting. All that is missing is a decent rock singers voice. He's like a pound shop Kurt Cobain. 4/5

Maybe not the greatest day I’ve ever known, but up there

middle school days, great album

majonäs var bra. Gillar överlag

atmospheric alt rock

Pumpkin fuckers. Just in time for Halloween.

Billy Corgan - tactically inept cabbage head.

Wow, wasn’t prepared to like this as much as I did. They got SO HYPED UP later in their career that I just refused to pay attention to them. I’ve never listened to the whole album before, even though individual tracks are basically my youth’s soundtrack. Very Seattle grunge. It really holds up as a sound of an era.

Well it's got to be one of the best album openings ever! Cherub Rock is an all time classic. Quiet is then good, as a technical show of hands, with some weird time signature stuff going on. Then you get Today, which is one of the best songs ever! Obviously drops off from here, but Hummer is a rare good long song. Rocket is less exciting, but then Disarms big epic beautiful sad balladry wins you back! Soma opens feeling like a Mogwai track. It's like the comedown from the previous tracks big bold production. It goes small and internal, very nicely. After this, it never hits such great heights again... But I'd say it had probably done enough already.

Siamese Dreams by Smashing Pumpkins (1993) Smashing Pumpkins (probably better titled “The Billy Corgan Project”) deliver a signature sound on this album. The Corgan sound is characterized by a near-symphonic texture of guitar overdubbing and the idiosyncratic lead vocals of Mr. Corgan, driving a message of cathartic honesty that borders on the uncomfortable, if not narcissistic. The lyrics are nearly embarrassing (for the listener, not Corgan) for their transparency and reckless lack of reserve, but that feature does little harm because Corgan’s abandonment of diction makes the words (sans lyrics sheet) all but indecipherable anyway. His voice alternates between two timbres, which are both substandard and extraordinarily interesting at the same time. One timbre is airy and elvish; the other is whiny and harsh. Supply your own synonyms. It is a voice that is well suited the very limited melodies Corgan has composed, which are all-too-heavily reliant on favorite intervals and loopy slurs. Blah. Having said that, this is still a very good album, if for no other reason than the technical excellence of the sound. It is galvanizing and pleasing. Hard driving rock riffs are layered over and over with multiple electric rhythm guitar tones. This record reveals the beauty of rock guitar. And while the technique could have been monotonous, this foundational Corgan sound is flavored with striking and innovative variety, including well performed if understated solos. The solo section at 3:04 on “Mayonaise” (sic) is great. And I don’t even like mayonnaise. One extraordinary highlight on this album is the integration of elements of symphony orchestra on “Disarm” and “Luna”. On these two tracks, strings are not simply added as background—they are woven into the composition itself. They actually become more magnetic than the melody and lyrics. Drummer Jimmy Chamberlain is flat-out excellent (listen to track #11!). Guitarist James Iha and bassist D’arcy Wretsky, however, are not even utilized on almost half of these tracks, on which those parts are performed by (you guessed it) Corgan himself. I suppose Iha and Wretsky were needed for live performances of these songs, however. It’s worth celebrating their humility in accepting such an arrangement. 4/5

4/5

I don't like alternative Rock and grunge, but this album - is exeption. Really great thing. The Best Composition - "Soma"

I was a Melon Collie guy in high school but this is probably closer to my favourite Pumpkins album. It has most of my favourites (Disarm, Today, Cherub) and really enjoyed Silverfuck too

Billy Corgan is a true guitar hero. He rips through this album with ferocity coming out of his fingertips. Even the more tender acoustic tracks feel at times like the guitar is under attack during the most emotional moments. And he sings with power and emotion. The whole band sounds great here, and the album rocks extremely hard.

I've forgotten how great this album is. Billy Corgan, mad genius that he is has pretty much spoiled all good will the Pumpkins earned. The 90s grunge sound is credited with being born in the PacNW. Chicago's Smashing Pumpkins expand that area with this album. 4.5/5

One of those bands that would be legends if they had a different singer. The album is still great though, closer. High 3, closer to 4 so that's why I'm rounding up.

Knew this album already – lovely emo softness

Si lo escucho otra vez le pongo 5*

Sick, first 2 tracks are proper 90s grunge, big fan. Always wanted to give these guys more of a listen/try so lookin forward to the rest of this one. Feels like a high3 so round up to a 4 so far. Yeh 4/5, enjoyed it.

I was sort of dreading this one because I absolute hate the vocalist's way of singing on the songs I've heard. Sure enough, the singing was pretty bad, but actually not nearly as bad as I had feared. To my even bigger surprise, the song writing, song structuring and instrumentation were fantastic. With a good singer, this could easily have been a 5. As is, it's a 3.5 for me. Rounded up because it surprised me so much.

Starts off with what I think to be their best song and maintains a level of good throughout.

Great

A very fine album muscular with memorable melodies. I like it a lot.

I had heard most of these before but it’s still a great album

Mayonaise wow

I enjoyed this album. Loved smashing pumpkins as a teen, but first time I listened to this full album. I liked “Soma” and “Geek USA” especially.

Great album that deserves a 5 but Billy is a douche canoe and his vocals can gnaw on you after a while. He has no range.

Very nice album, has some of the better songs from the Smashing Pumpkins

good energy, nice drums, interesting

Es bastante bueno, no ha envejecido mal, pero algunos sonidos no me atraen los suficiente en una o dos canciones, sin embargo fuera de eso las líricas son muy buenas. :3

I'm grumpy. Why is this cover art not the original cover art? Why do I care? I don't know. But I do. This is such a sentimental favorite that I'm blind to how long it goes and how drone-y and generic it gets in places. There are three to four great songs on this album, so maybe that's enough for me. I don't know. I'm hungry.

Luna and Soma are gorgeous pieces of music. This album is brilliant. 4.5.

Classic, almost metally sound at some points. Pretty good.

4.5 if I could. Obviously the couple big hits but the rest is just as good.

Reminded me how good this is. Not a duff track on it and they’re not afraid of a tune.

solid 4 stars. I enjoyed it and might listen to it again

Really good shit

I like this type of rock and I think that I just turned away from The Smashing Pumpkins in the past because I just did not know what to expect. But this album somehow makes me think that if I had been a teenager in 94, I would definitely have been feeling this while wearing flannel and doc martens and a cigarette in my mouth.

Today. Cherub rock. Brilliant album!

If only we had some kind of human 1001 album app that could have recommended this earlier.

Good album. Have listened to this many times.

actually liked this! the beginning of the album felt a lot more slow and repetitive, but as it went on i started liking it a lot more

The sound is very similar to Nirvana's.  My initial thought was that the sound is  a more user friendly mix of  In Utero.  (Both released the same year)  To be sure, it's heavy and nobody would accuse it of being happy, but it was able to appeal to those not clinically depressed   as well as those who own shirts that aren't plaid.  One of the top LPs of the Alt Rock era. 

Classic 90's grunge.

yes lad

Smashing pumpkins are cool

Ich mag es, war es doch mein Einstieg zum Reich der Pumpkins - selbstredend sind „Today“ & „Disarm“ die einladend weit geöffnete Doppeltür dorthin gewesen. Für viele wohl das wahre Meisterwerk. Mir wirkt es jedoch manchmal zu bieder-brav, was vielleicht etwas mit der Zeit zu tun hat, die ich mit dem Album verbracht hab. Sound proper fett und super gealtert. Es fehlt noch die Schippe Raffinesse, obwohl das Konzept auf muskulösen Beinen steht. Songwriting bereits toll, selbstsicher aber ein wenig „von der Stange“-haft. Dann aber gibt es so herrliche wow-Effekte beim erneuten Hören („Hummer“); wie so oft, wenn vertraute Speisen dieses eine, bisher verborgen gebliebene Aroma offenbaren. Hier wäre die Zehnerskala hilfreich. Slightly overrated 3.5

Bevor ich's vergesse: kurz realisiert welch starkes Faible ich für Bassistinnen habe. Tina Weymouth, Debbie Googe, D'Arcy Wretzky (und die Liste könnte noch deutlich länger sein): steh ich total drauf. Jedenfalls: für mich im Vergleich besser als die Mellon Collie. Top Hits drauf (Today; Disarm), verspukte Alternative-Rock-Mini-Opern (Soma, Sweet Sweet) und auch noch der von der Gish gelernte "klassische" Ansatz, 80er-Hardrock mit Mitteln des 90er-Sounds aufzuführen (Bratzgitarren, Streicher), außerdem mit Corgans schon ziemlich speziellen Gesang und Schwelge-Arrangements. Klingt heute bisschen verstaubter als ich gedacht hätte, aber für die Jugend natürlich: 4.0 (enthält einen Zehntelpunkt extra für den starken Zug, einen Song "Mayonaise" zu nennen. Muss man sich in Amerika erstmal trauen!)

Me ha gustado mucho, he descubierto dos temazos, tristes en ocasiones, pero muy buenos cuando dan caña

It was nice Monday driving music. I hadn’t heard all of the songs but I liked almost all of them.

Muy Smashing Pumpkins.

Absolutely great CD... I've seen them twice. Once at Lupo's in Providence and once at St Andrews theater in Detroit. At the end of the Detroit show, Billy Corgan went on at least a 20 minute guitar experimental solo. I say "at least" because most people left at some point because it was more noise than art at that point.

Classic Pumpkins. Great tracks are great. Others? Eh

the Wiki for this album is very interesting, I didn't realize that it was spawned from so much conflict, chaos, drug addition and talk of suicide. I also like Rolling Stone's description that its closer to progressive rock than punk or grunge

Can an album simultaneously be the best and worst thing to ever happen to a band? Maybe it was inevitable that Billy Corgan would turn into a bit of a douche commode or maybe he already was, but this record is where I’ve always drawn the line as a fan. It’s so good and I liked it soooo much. Still do. (Those guitar sounds! The first three tracks!) But man, I didn’t touch a thing they did after this. Still have never listened to that double album, which I know is supposed to be good but… I was just tired of all things Pumpkins by that point. They flew too close to the sun, man. It’s too bad.

This was on point with my Friday feelings. I particualrly enjoyed disarm. Belter.

Great album - I was a lot more familiar with it than I thought. Picking a fave track is hard. "Today" was popular at karaoke while I lived in Japan, so I've probably heard it more than all the other tracks and have a lot of affection for it. "Cherub Rock" is a fantastic album opener. Might opt for the wildly OTT melodrama of "Disarm" though!

Formative album for me. Listened to it many times in my teenage years. I think the Melon Collie and the Infinite sadness album is better overall, but this one has a raw angst that can’t be denied. Billy Corgan’s high screeching voice sounds like his guitar riffs at times (Bee Gees-esque)

I actually really enjoyed this one. Hummer is a cool song.

It definitely holds up... some exceptional songs and a surprisingly heavy sound. I think about Today as representative for Siamese Dream, but there are so many more aggressive songs.

Been a long time since I listened to this. This was so big at the time, really set the bar of what “alternative” could be. Harder rock or softer elegant pieces. The guitar pedals effects and drums mix/level just scream early mid 90s 4.5 stars, rounded to 5

Listened a couple weeks ago.

Love smashing pumpkins. Love 90s rock too.

Super goed album met redelijk wat bekende nummers erop

dope sound

One of the best albums of the 90s! I enjoy the smashing pumpkins.

Solid album, very 90's rock and easy to listen to. 2-discs so long but never hated any songs or wanted any to go quicker. Apparently I know a lot of Smashing Pumpkins songs?

An absolute rock classic. This is the band's rawest LP by far, but the production makes every Muff-slathered guitar lead shine through. Tight riffs and tonal shifts make for a thrilling and varied album that remains fresh to this day.

A real blast from the past. Instantly transported to the summer of 1994 as a 15 year old hanging out with my mates, not a worry in the world and no idea what the future would hold. No need, it's so far away right‽

Possibly my favourite SP album, and considering some of the songs on Mellon Collie, that's pretty decent praise. Today and Cherub Rock are classics, Rocket still sounds great, and possibly the one song of the four singles I don't tire of, and Silverfuck is incredible. 4 stars as it does lose a little bit of momentum somewhere in the middle, but even that's a harsh critical comment.

Its that smash pumpkins rock

Enjoyable, but a handful of songs sound like other songs.

Old school hard rock

Good stuff

This album is a classic. Pretty much any latter-day GenX kid had it, or had a friend with it. Listening back, I can find seven or eight songs that have been on mixtapes of mine, and at least three that have been on recent playlists (within the past few years). Definitely a whole album worth listening to.

Really don’t enjoy Billy’s vocals, but that’s just me, I know. Still, great album.

3.5/5. Great, classic rock track! Haven't heard this in a long time

Sensational. Sleepy, dreamy and psychedelic. Almost a 5

Muitas faixas boas.

i like it altough mellon collie is to me a more interesting album because of its different facets while this one is good but more of the same

Cool guitar sound. producción tipo grunge. Ya había escuchado Today. Fluye bien. Mucho menos pulido que 1979

Cool album with some great songs

Honestly, I loved this. It wasn't a perfect 5 stars, but the sound and Billy Corgan's vocals are still excellent and I'd definitely listen again. Solid 4.

Nostalgia isn't the only thing carrying this record through, disarm, mayonaise and other great tracks, excellent

3/5 enjoyable listen, one great banger

Billy Corgan's voice is more of a whine at times, the times it isn't are some 90s goodness that I think everyone into rock has heard at least half a dozen times, overall this album gets lost in the shuffle of grunge/alt albums I'm into

I can't tell if this album is better than it seems or worse. I used to like it a lot, but whenever I've gone back to it over the years, I usually stop paying attention before it's done. I like the guitars, the songs can be interesting, and Corgan's voice, while not itself a plus for me, doesn't get under my skin like it does for a lot of people. I think his ability to go from a soft, ethereal tone to a more strained tone is integral to their sound he's able to do it in a way that makes his songs more powerful and gives the band a recognizable without becoming formulaic or gimmicky. Still, the whole thing does start to sound samey as the album goes on, unless one of the very recognizable songs comes on, like "Disarm" which opens with church bells and strings. I guess when you dig below the surface, there's often something interesting going on, but when you pick it up and look at it more closely, it's not the treasure you hoped it would be. Essential listen: even if it's not a great album, it's certainly an important album in defining the time period, so yes Desert island disc: no

acho que gostaria mais se fosse o tipo de gênero musical que eu aprecio, como estou sempre aberta a novas descobertas, me pegou de surpresa, mas nem tanto.

This album is a Grunge alt-rock standard. Pitchfork: 10 Rolling Stone: Top 500 Albums #341 Best Songs Cherub Rock Today Disarm

Not as good as I thought it would be.

favorite was Quiet…liked the sound but not so much the singing 😔

Maudlin and one paced. Not the masterpiece I'd heard about. Sounds like spoilt teenagers

2,5

It’s good! I get how people rate this so high, but not exactly my flavor!

3/5

Second album proposé après un ‘Melon coolie …’ beaucoup trop long, donc ennuyeux. Cet album est plus concis, même si il reste long (plus d’une heure). J’ai apprécié les morceaux plus dynamiques, dont certains avec une signature rythmique non standard. Par contre les morceaux plus lents ou orchestraux m’ont moins intéressé. Bilan cependant positif, je le réécouterais probablement. =>3/5

Rocket

A lot of this blended together for me. It might be shorter than Melancholy… but there weren’t any standout songs for me. I think Melancholy… benefits aesthetically as well with having the two portions that separates the songs. I don’t own this physically though so that may affect my experience with the two albums. I didn’t feel this offered me anything the other one didn’t. I also think this album cover is really ugly.

This is a phenomenal album that is a milestone in alternative music of its time, but I don't know if people will be listening to it years from now.

I didn't feel anything. why siameses? why pumpkins. bro hates october and halloweeen

I liked this a LOT more than Mellon Collie - it was a bit too long, but not painfully long, the walls of sound were satisfying (the energies were working for me), the lyrics didn’t put me off too much. I didn’t mind the vocal style (which many other people apparently can’t stand). And, while I was listening to it, my mind wasn’t full of what a pathetic wanker Billy Corgan is (ie stuff that I was reminded of by reading about him afterwards), so that didn’t get in the way of my enjoyment. So today, because my moral judgement of the artist didn’t get in the way of my enjoyment of the music, I’ll give it a more positive rating than I might next time round: it was Good, 7/10.

Really a touch of 2010's millennial on this album.

I enjoyed it.

мы возвращаемся от крунеров в пение от души)) со всем уважением, нет спасибо

Made me feel nostalgic. Was already familiar with Smashing Pumpkins but had never listened to a full album. I really liked the angst and longing and bittersweet feeling.

- Love the calmer parts with less distorted guitar sound - Distorted guitar parts sound kinda same across songs - Lead singer sounds like an acquired taste, maybe not for me - Disarm was my favorite from the album

Never been a fan but it's less irritating than I remembered. Some of it actually rocks.

Ordinary.

Wasn’t too bad tbh

Good

I could never really get into the Pumpkins beyond the hits and I still feel that way. Not sure if it’s because I can’t get into Billy’s voice or what. Cherub Rock and Today are great tracks to be fair and Disarm has a killer riff.

They have three or four solid songs on the album, but then have songs where vocals are sad and/or you have minutes of empty noise on the song.

It’s ok

As a geriatric millennial this record brings up the hot button question who had a better day? Smashing Pumpkins or Ice Cube?

Oh hey smashing pumpkins I was unaware of your game

A version of me from over a decade ago would've been happy to find this gem, a little more angst in me and I could see myself repeating this. There's a lot of it I appreciate, Corgan's hazy half-falsetto vocal work pairs really well with the delicate strings and with the harsher "metal" moments. The musicianship overall is pretty great. It feels like a significantly more matured MCR, which is a mood I haven't been in... in probably over a decade. It's not dated, it actually sounds fresh, except maybe for the lengthy shoegazey power chords. I can't hate on anybody for loving this, it's just finding me at a time where I've outgrown the emotional necessity. 3.4/5

The boredom with this one is strong, and with added whiny Billy vocals. I'm not entirely sure how I got through it. Heard before ❌️ Listened this time ✅️ Revisit ❌️ ★★★☆☆(5/10) Total reviewed : 402 Already owned : 90 Purchased : 21 To buy : 3 Nope : 288

Shoegazy, sometimes bombastic. Good album. Not sure why folks bag on this band. They're not bad.

Siamese Dream is a really solid album overall. I didn't love the opening track, "Cherub Rock"—it never really clicked with me, even after hearing the rest of the album. But once I got past that, there were a lot of songs I genuinely enjoyed. The album has a huge, layered guitar sound that's heavy without losing its melodic side. Songs like "Today," "Disarm," "Mayonaise," and "Rocket" stood out the most for me, each bringing something a little different while still fitting the album's dreamy, emotional atmosphere. Billy Corgan's vocals can take some getting used to, but they fit the music well. One thing I appreciated is how the album balances loud, distorted rock with quieter, more vulnerable moments. It feels ambitious without becoming exhausting, even though it's over an hour long. Some tracks blend together a bit, but the highs are strong enough to keep the album engaging. Overall, I liked Siamese Dream more than I expected. It has a distinctive sound that influenced a lot of alternative rock in the '90s, and it's easy to hear why it's considered one of the genre's classics. Even if the first song wasn't for me, there was plenty here that made the listen worthwhile.

Like. But not in my top 50 for sure

Un peu trop énervé mais certains morceaux très sympa

Dreamy indeed. I can’t really connect to the Smashing Pumpkins the way I feel like I should given how much I love similar bands. But I did think this album sounded l great, I appreciate it, and I believe that one day the conditions will be right for the Pumpkins to fully click with me. Right person, wrong time. 3.5 stars.

This is a decent album. While listening I felt it had some really strong moments, especially the heavy riffs and the powerful, layered instrumentals. Billy Corgan’s guitar work and the overall sound can be impressive and full of energy. That said, the album starts off a bit weak for me. The beginning doesn’t grab you right away, and some parts feel a little too long or repetitive. It has that big, alternative rock sound of the 90s, but it doesn’t always hit as hard as it tries to. Overall, Siamese Dream has its highlights and good production, but it’s not as consistent or exciting as I expected from all the praise it gets. It’s decent, but far from a must-listen for me.

Maybe maybe, but the grungy fuck: I am talented but don't want to show it

Other than a couple of tracks, this might as well be Coldplay. Just dull. Not horrible but average.

If you are they type that someone that looks like someone from Soundgarden might have stuffed into a locker, or if someone actually in Stone Temple Pilots stiffed you on the purchase of narcotics, Smashing Pumpkins offers recourse. Hard rock for delicates that won't trigger your metal allergies. "Today" is kind of a perfect indie rock song, if the genre allowed for superlatives, and "Disarm" is a legit moving power ballad. The rest feels like it is/was a soundtrack for a coming of age movie set in the 90s rather than about the times itself, which sums up the early 90s pretty well.

Even knowing that Billy Corgan is a complete walker, this record had some nice moments.

One of the albums of all time.

Pretty nice

It's...fine. Nothing is terrible, little is great.

Nirvana-nautiskelijana kyllä tästäkin nautiskelee. Grunge rätisee kivasti. Ehkä kuunteluolosuhteet eivät olleet Toyotan takapenkillä kaikista ihanteellisimmat, osa biiseistä jäi vähän hämärän peittoon. Varsinkin ne, joissa oli hiljaisempia osuuksia. Täytyy kuunnella uudestaan, kun eteen sattuu!

Tosi herkullisia sinemaattisia sävellyksiä! Ois ehkä enemmän mun tyylinen jos laulu ois kirkkaampaa ja miksattu vähemmän mössöseksi. Mutta se on kai se pointti. Tykkäsin, kuuntelisin uusiksi. Semmosta katselen bussin ikkunasta ja olen leffassa -musaa. Tää on leffaa bro.

Parhaimmillaan tosi hyvä, huonoimmillaan aivan jees. Disarm on musta yks ysärin hienoimpia biisejä, vaikka kuulostaakin aika paljon Antti Tuiskun Hyökyaallolta (tai just siksi?)

Matkamusana autoradiosta ei saanut ihan ansaitsemaansa huomiota, mutta olen vakuuttunut että keskittyneemmin kuunneltuna kallistuis tähän 😌

Taustamusaksi jäi tää tällä kertaa. Ei kesämusaa.

ehkä yksi parhaimmista levyn lopetusbiiseistä ikinä tällä levyllä nam

Primeira vez ouvindo o album. Conhecia o Mellon alguma coisa.

maybe i'm missing something but this goes on for too long and has some good moments but is largely kind of dull. maybe one to revisit.

07/12 Was okay. Prefer Melon Collie & The Infinite Sadness more

The singles (Disarm, Today, Cherub Rock) have stood the test of time and are fantastic. My only gripe is that the album is a little too long and gets repetitive, which I’ve noticed with all of Billy’s releases that I’ve listened to.

It's 3.5

It pains me not giving this a higher score, but this was quite underwhelming compared to "Mellon Collie". I listened to this album six times. Why so many times? Because I love their following release, and taking into account that they are both as highly regarded, I though I should also love this, and that's why I decided to be so persistent. Turns out, I can't. Every single time, I left with not much value out of it. The reason why I love "Mellon Collie" is because it is really ambitious, grandiose and full of super interesting and unique ideas that make almost every song distinct. All these things I like so much about it are not present in this one album. In "Siamese Dream", the songs are more similar to each other, not identical, but they do follow a very similar line and sound, so overall it doesn't come as bold or experimental as the next project. Okay, now it might seems that I dislike the album, but not at all. I do dig the very alternative rock sound that its also close to dream pop and shoegaze, combining some really nice and punchy guitars riffs with mellow and slow moments and also a big wall of sound brought by the very distorted guitars. I admit that I do like way more the frenetic side of the album. Songs like "Cherub Rock", "Quiet", "Geek U.S.A" and "Silverfuck" have some really amazing and hard hitting riffs which keep my feet and head moving. The other and slower side is great, but it never succees to capture me as much. There are a lot of beautiful, delicate and melancholic moments, thanks to the melodic guitars and use of orchestrated strings, and yet, I can not connect with them. Not even with songs like "Today" and "Mayonaise", which are both considered some of the bests songs they ever released. I do not think they are bad as I do appreciate their soft sound, is just that they do not spark any big emotion in me. In conclusion, maybe I'm a bit disappointed, but I still like their very unique alternative rock sound, despite not being their most ambitious.

- Crea buenas atmosferas con altibajos musicales que pasan de arpegios tranquilos a un wallsound puro y duro típico de smashing pumpkins. - Todas las canciones siguen un hilo conductor en sonido y estilo, seguramente con acordes similares. Hay una fluidez entre canciones que es agradable. - El sonido es enérgico y poderoso, suena mucho a la escena under de los 90 y es el estilo clásico del rock alternativo y grunge. En general le doy un 6.5/10. Está bueno pero no lo volvería a escuchar. Tiene alguna que otra canción que destaca más que las otras, pero en general se me hace que suena todo igual. Aún así la calidad de sonido es impecable

Some absolute bangers and some over the top pish. Too long.

Pretty solid- nice mix of chill vibes + higher energy. I like the other-wordly feel.

I didn't really pay attention to Smashing Pumpkins, even when they were unavoidable for a while there, but this sounds great today. I miss guitars.

6/10. Buen disco, un rock ligerito y fácil de digerir. El sonido es un poco monótono, pero aún así es agradable. La letra no la juzgo, pero como las líricas forman gran parte de las canciones baja puntos, aún así se sienten con contenido.

I'd forgotten how grunge-adjacent (but also stylistically varied!) the Smashing Pumpkins could be

(4/7) I think the singles are strong but the rest of this feels like someone wailing over a soup of distorted guitars

No es tanto de mi gusto. Pero debo decir que tienen buenas canciones.

I had never listened to The Smashing Pumpkins before listening to this, and even then, I had only heard of them within the past year or two. I actually thought a lot of this album was really good. It wasn't really my taste, but I appreciated the music nevertheless. There were obviously some that I wasn't really a fan of, but I think 'Disarm' really stood out to me. I don't really enjoy this heavier genre usually, but I love it when different styles get experimental and incorporate different ideas. The strings in this song were beautiful, and I really enjoyed it. The vocals throughout the whole album aren't really as heavy and 'rough' as you'd expect with this style of music, and I thought that the vocals were actually really nice from start to finish. I think that this is quite a lengthy album, which meant my attention wasn't always on form throughout. I think this was slightly too long for a top-to-bottom album listen, but overall, I thought the album was okay. Also, they spelt Mayonnaise wrong. Not on. Stand-outs: Disarm Hummer Mayonaise Today

Mostly don't get this - although Disarm is pretty good. For me at least it got better towards the end. The first few tracks made me think "this is like whiner Nirvana".

heck yeah man

I was surprised at how little the songwriting on this album spoke to me compared to Mellon Collie. I struggled to find a route into the record, whereas with the follow up, several songs immediately peaked my interest. The aesthetic is cool, I love the passion, but this will not be my go to smashing pumpkins record.

Not my cup of tea but I understand why it’s part of this list

Guess its an okay album. Maybe if i listened to it when it first came out my overall rate wouldve been higher. It has couple songs that i enjoyed like Mayonaise and Today but other not for me.

Cherub Rock is an all-time banger. The guitar riff will make the hair on your neck stand up. But look, I didn’t really like these guys when they were hot in the 90s and Billy Corgan has proven himself to be at least a relative of the guy I always kind of thought he was so…🤷‍♂️

Theyre definitely not for me. Every song feels the same and ım so bored. Maybe haf i given myself fully id think different but anyway its not the time :/

Not listened to much SP before. You can hear how influential a lot of this album is for future genres - especially things like pop/punk and rock. Guitar work is killer, Billy Corgan’s vocals are lacking especially in respect to other alt / grunge bands of the time. Lots to be admired on this. Soma and Luna standout tracks.

3/4 border. Had a bit of a Nirvana knockoff style but liked it well enough

Another one that I own, but haven't played for a long time. It was good to reacquaint myself with it before putting it away for another couple of decades.

i kept putting this off because i love the smashing pumpkins but i did have to be honest that only two tracks stood out to me from this album specifically

Pretty solid stuff here. Not an enormous fan of the voice, but I do think that it it fits the subject matter and music pretty well. It gets a little distorted for me here and there, but there are also some great riffs and nice melodies. 3.5

Not sure if I buy this being on a shortlist for greatest album ever but it goes hard and actually has a guitar-forward sound and actual guitar solos which appears to be unusual for the era. It's obviously a moody album but it doesn't sink into being a terrible listening experience which is a mistake a lot of American bands from this time seem to be making (see: Nine Inch Nails). Pain for the sake of pain means an auditory nightmare and that its time to take your meds; pain as a means to a greater end for your art means critical acclaim and $$$

Okay. Fine

6/10 Bueno, pero flojo en algunas cosas, una de las ultimas canciones termina de una manera malisima con ruidos horribles. Le doy un 6 porque el resto no estuvo mal

Rlly cool. Gives massive male manipulator vibes tho

I came of age in the 90s, and obviously I know who the Smashing Pumpkins are, but somehow I had never heard this album in full until now. I enjoyed it, but not as much as I was hoping. It started off really strong - first four tracks are all bangers - and then it was more hit and miss after that. "Quiet" and "Geek U.S.A." were the highlights for me, "Quiet" in particular sounded like a band trying to write a Soundgarden song but screwed it up (complimentary). Both tracks that were primarily acoustic and strings were a little over-the-top/weepy for me, and the length and build-up of "Silverfuck" never paid off for me. I did like this overall, but I was more than ready for it to be over by the time it ended.

Kind of generic but enjoyable enough.

Yeah man, the 90s!! The guitars and drums are yummy but the voice... grating

I never really got The Smashing Pumpkins. There's some decent songs here but I'll probably never listen to this album by choice.

The base album is 4/5. It dragged on too long.

Didn't blow me away.

Like it

Starts with a fantastic banger and nice riffing, afterwards it sometimes lacks energy for the full album, especially in the voice. Still enjoyable!

Not a massive fan of his voice but like a few of their hits

3.5

If i was 10 years younger / in a different headspace i might be able to connect more to it - might give this another listen though

Another separating art from artist album for me. Billy Corgan has some really, really, really weird ideas and has been on Alex Jones' InfoWars program multiple times (all pre-$1.4 billion defamation trial, so I'll give him that at least, but Alex has always been an asshole). But I'm trying to ignore that for this purpose. One of the big issues I have with this album is that it contains Today and Disarm, both of which are, in my opinion, head and shoulders above anything else on the album. They are both genuinely great songs. The rest of the album, I can pretty much take or leave. Billy does objectively have a pretty odd voice, but it sort of suits a lot of this. The distorted guitar tone starts to get a bit much over the full album, as every song ends up sounding quite similar - someone needed to buy James Iha some different pedals. It's mostly a little bit dull with two absolute standouts. 3/5

i think its nice background noise when you're feeling in a i want to be calm but in a grungy way

Quintessential 90s grunge rock. The SP sound is evocative of the time and of the albums that follow this one.

A couple five star songs

I think this album is overrated. It mashes too many styles, sometimes in the same song. It sounds like walking through suburbia. I think it might take many repeat listens to grow on you. I do get the mood from the music though and it is cohesive. I wonder if you only had this CD, I think you would play it all the time driving around (if you lived in the suburbs) and I think it would come to signify a time in your life, and you would love it. I admire Billy Corgan's ambition. His voice is not that great but layered with these specific guitars, it does make a lovely noise.

it's good !