Reviews (page 13 of 15)
It was fine, but it was very long, and it kept getting more and more "heavy" towards the end.
1979 was OK, but not such a fan tb
Un par de canciones buenas, no es de lo mejor escuchado.
There are some really amazing tracks on this album- I love zero, tonight tonight and 1979 but this album is long and it has a depressing feel to it which means I had to listen to it in 4 sittings. The tracks can go for 6-10 minutes sometimes so that took the score down a little
Great songwriting, although I'm not sure it had to be as long as it was. As with most double albums, it could have been cut down. I also didn't like the guitar sound. The heavier moments didn't have that visceral punch that the best albums of the era had - Superunknown, Nevermind, Badmotorfinger etc. For this reason, the ballads worked better.
It's fine but annoying at points
Interesting, but too hard rock on the border of metal
Not as bad as contemporary reviews made it out to be. It's a little bloated, but there are definitely more than one cd's worth of good tracks here. "1979" and "Tonight, Tonight" are worth the price of admission alone.
Pretty good. Too american/thrashy rock for my taste.
Zero is a filthy banger.
I have this cd.
I quite liked this. A bit long and a little repetitive but I like that kind of music so that was okay.
A great album, but a bit long for me. I'm not the biggest fan of Corgan's voice, but the mix of genres and styles is interesting. In my reading about the album, apparently he Corgan runs some wrestling company. Fun fact I guess.
I do enjoy the Smashing Pumpkins; just don't love this album as much as Gish or Siamese Dream.
Smashing Pumpkins are “cool guy” music in my brain, even if they haven’t really been relevant in a while. The big singles off this album were on the compilation record I had as a kid, and I’ve played them over and over again ever since.
Lekker rocky, aparte lead vocal. Bij het nummer "An Ode to No One" begon het album pas echt lekker los te komen. De eerdere nummers vond ik allemaal een beetje monotoom. "Cupid De Locke" bracht een gelukkig wat afwisseling. Mastering was goed, prettig gebruik van stereo. Na vol 1 begon de vocal te irriteren en ben ik gestopt met luisteren.
A little on the long side
Well, that was sure a journey. First thing's first: I don't hate this album, but I don't love it either. You can tell a ton of work has been put into the creation of the 28 songs bestowed upon us, but it's painfully obvious that the quality of these 28 tracks varies heavily. Side 1 is nothing short of phenomenal. Atmosphere and diversity is superb, not to mention the musical prowess on display is unmatched in all albums of the era. Of the 14 songs there was only one I had a strong distaste for (Love) whereas the other 13 were stellar amalgamations of grunge, symphonic rock and alt rock sown together into an exquisite tapestry. Side 2 on the other hand is an utter disappointment and a horrible journey through all the worst cliches 90s music has to offer. The distortion is there and it's worse than ever. The gentler cuts sound banal and laughably stupid. This isn't to say there aren't highlights but the lowlights outweigh them and that's something I didn't want to happen, even more so after the appraisal I gave Side 1. Highlights are few and far between but are as follows: Thirty-Three, 1979, Thru the Eyes of Ruby, Stumbleine. THAT IS IT. Of the 14 tracks these were the only ones that in any way, shape or form brought me satisfaction. I want to tell myself I'm being too harsh on this, but I really don't think I am. It's almost as if an entirely new band recorded the other 14 tracks. The quality and solidity of the tracks took an ugly nosedive almost right from the get-go and I really can't say I would ever listen to it again. If Side 1 was a gorgeous tapestry, then Side 2 is an ugly snot-entwined piece of off-white pieces of garbled chewed up rope. This album sure is a tale of two halves. I'm torn. On the one hand I seriously admire and adore the first side's masterful blend of genres and artful diversity on display. But on the other hand I outright despise the lack of effort and beauty on Side 2. I thought this would be higher than an average 5, but I just can't bring myself to increase the score. It's sad but ultimately not that hard of a decision. 5/10
This is an album that I wish I had half-stars for. This is almost a 4 star album. And, if I listened on a different day, in a different mood, it would probably be a 4 star.
Very long but a few good songs
Some bops but the Spotify version is six fucking hours long lmao
Not impressed, the first track is iconic but the rest is so so
I tried but fail to like it. Voice is too whiny.
i really enjoyed all the instrumentals, but i simply just cant enjoy the vocals. i dont know why but every song i just get irritated because of the voice. would be a 10/10 if it was just the instrumentals because they really carry every song. also holy FUCK this album is long. if it were good i wouldnt mind it, but it just isnt.
Some really good songs in here but it went on forever
the miracle of Siamese Dream is that the Pumpkins were always both floating and pummeling, a jetstream roaring and ascending at their heaviest, their softest moments their most deliberate. on the followup, they've decided they can only do one or the other, and must do each one a whole bunch of times. did you forget to stick the songs together, guys? is that why there's so many?
I can listen to and enjoy the smashing pumpkins in extremely short bursts. The bloated sounding excess of 90s alt-rock is... It's a lot at the best of times. The "unique" singing style and the melodrama come together to make this an absolutely dismal 2 hour experience, but a lot of the songs on their own aren't that bad. Rating this as an album, its quite low, but as a set of songs to listen to individually? It's a bit better. Especially the first half.
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Couple of good songs like tonight tonight and 1979 but there is way too much melodrama and not enough melody to put up with that voice
Pompous, overwrought, and bloated. Billy Corgan in full ego mode. Not a good listen.
Alternative rock built from towering guitar walls, delicate piano ballads, layered production, and emotionally charged vocals feels like trying to walk through a forest where every branch is covered in thick syrup—everything sticks together into one dense mass that becomes increasingly difficult to move through. While Others might say the album is ambitious, for me its oversized, saturated soundscape which feels exhausting rather than immersive. Despite the stylistic variety, I rarely felt the music had enough space to breathe.
I can't shake the idea that this album is mostly the byproduct of Billy Corgan's long standing belief that he's very smart and very interesting. As true / false / complicated as that opinion may be, you should usually wait for other people to tell it to you first before you make a 2 hour long shoegaze pedal board album about the joys and sorrows of sleeping with Courtney Love. Siamese Dream is great and all, but this album only has (generously) 6 truly great songs. Christ, it may have more than that, but it all becomes wallpaper by disc two. What differentiates the 2nd song about religion and sex and rage from the 5th song about religion and sex and rage? Only the very smart and very interesting know for sure.
not for me but i already have the 1979 song
Its well documented that many successful rock groups get so famous and full of themselves that they lose their filter and self awareness. They fall into a trap of thinking that anything they put out will be amazing and gobbled up by fans. Even Zeppelin did this in their later years. Here is Corgan and the Pumpkins doing the same, putting out a bloated, self aggrandizing double album that could and should have been a great single album. The great songs are great, the bad songs are bad, and there is plenty of blame to go around.
Boy am I happy to have finished that seemingly endless "masterpiece". Sure, it presents a couple good songs that have been played ad nauseum on the radio, but everything else seems overcooked and comes off as conceited filler. Maybe it's the grating of Billy Corgans voice but I find myself irritated and maybe a little angry after having finished the album. I bet I'd enjoy it a little more if it were fully instrumental. Regardless they could have cut half the material from this album and it would be just as good, probably better. Giving it a 2/5 just for the radio hits. Also noting what a cringe album title it is; maybe it was more impactful in the 90s?
Sounds fine but not one I would return to.
Not a massive fan of 2010s alternative music
Much too long and I simply can't stand Billy Corgan's voice. Two stars, one each for Tonight Tonight and 1979.
I just cannot get into this enough to listen to the whole thing. I'm sorry, maybe in the future I will relisten.
Блин, я не послушала этот альбом полностью, но стиль их мне вообще не зашел. 5/10 Мб вернусь когда-то
Huh. I must have misclicked the 3.
Sympa mais faut que je réécoute parce que ça m’a un peu saoulé mdr
I listened to this once in the 1990s and again today. That’s 4 hours of listening I could have spent on something that elicits more than a perplexed shrug. Interestingly, an album produced and cowritten by Billy Corgan — Hole’s CELEBRITY SKIN — is one of my favorite albums.
There are very rare cases where albums justify being over two hours. This is not one of them. It’s not even like a lot of it was trying different things. Just a bunch of muddled, grungy 90s rock with a singer that grated on my soul after 2 hours. There are some decent tracks in here surrounded by a whole lot of bleh. Even the more well-known tracks are not that good.
This album is way too long and convoluted for there to be just a few songs that I like on it. I can see the vision, but it isn't my kind of music.
i liked playing these guys on rock band, i can respect the musicianship here, but 28 songs is way too much for an album and they don't earn that length at all. white noise muzak
1995. p756. 2 stars. Tedious 90s alt rock. It's a double album of limited ideas and filler tunes, so points immediately deducted. And the vocalist sounds like a constipated weasel. 2+ hours of my life I will never get back. Pass.
Other than Bullet with Butterfly Wings not my thing.
Overall: 2.285 (rounded to 2) Consistency: 2.64 Originality: 2.5 Enjoyment: 2 Virtuosity: 2 Vol. 1 1. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness - 3 2. Tonight, Tonight - 5 3. Jellybelly - 3 4. Zero - 4 5. Here Is No Why - 3 6. Bullet with Butterfly Wings - 2 7. To Forgive - 2 8. An Ode to No One - 2 9. Love - 2 10. Cupid de Locke - 3 11. Galapagos - 2 12. Muzzle - 3 13. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans - 3 14. Take Me Down - 3 Vol. 2 1. Where Boys Fear to Tread - 2 2. Bodies - 2 3. Thirty-Three - 3 4. In the Arms of Sleep - 3 5. 1979 - 4 6. Tales of A Scorched Earth - 2 7. Thru the Eyes of Ruby - 3 8. Stumbleine - 1 9. X.Y.U. - 2 10. We Only Come Out At Night - 2 11. Beautiful - 2 12. Lily (My One and Only) - 3 13. By Starlight - 3 14. Farewell and Goodnight - 2
It’s too long! Also someone in another review said the singer sounded like Cartman from South Park and I couldn’t unhear it.
A bit lawwwwng and I thought the mixing was a bit dirty.
Seems like everyone had a copy of this album lying around in their car back in the 90’s. And like the smell of hot upholstery, it’s almost nostalgia-inducing, but not quite. This may be the most middling band in history. I can’t bring myself to hate them, but I don’t like them either. They’re just kinda there, sitting between an almost empty lighter and a dog-eared road map.
Didn’t judge their music by the album cover but the rating would have been the same
it was fine, after Tonight, Tonight, I thought I’d love the album and then every song after that was either grossly grunge or just forgettable (except for That One Song) so IDK! Maybe I need to relisten sometime (but also, some of the worst people I know have that one Target shirt w this album cover on it. maybe that’s a part of it)
one truly great song on here and it takes over an hour to get to it. fuck this shit
Didn’t love it, but I didn’t hate it as much as Siamese Dream, which was two stars for me. Does it rate three? Hmm. I’m not sure it quite gets there. Two hours was a bit much.
Liked the SP, liked angsty heavy rock then 1 day was a day older and just didn't and haven't since. Can kind of intellectually see this, album though if it had been a snappier run time would have been easier, 2 hrs ( too long for anyone would i like my favourite albums if they were 2 hrs long, not sure), it's just an emotional turn-off, it's almost endless, don'tmind him as a vocalist but 2 hrs of his raging about whatever, for me is well beyond too much. Nothing else to really add, there are bits, songs I like but it all became a total non engaged chore, 2 Stars
Good lord this was painful. +1 stars for Billy Corgan keeping the NWA alive.
interesting but not my kind of music
Damn, there are some good moments here! But then the wrestler opens his mouth, and it all goes to shit.
... Another Pumpkins record and my review for the last still stands. Tonight tonight may be one of the best rock songs ever written, but a few hits a good album does not make. I like this band, I don't love them. Their albums are self indulgent and bloated. They are in the same bracket as Queen, good songs, annoying albums.
Kinda emo so far... im sure it really speaks to teenagers. too long, i don't get the hype
- thoughts so far are that I really like the instrumentation but that the vocals aren’t my favorite
Album 193. Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness — The Smashing Pumpkins (1995) Oh nooooooo, 2 hours of this. I can't stand it. It's a nightmare. Still disturbing background noise, but cohesive with some good songs. 2/5 Liked: — Tonight, Tonight — Bullet With Butterfly Wings — 1979
This was a huge album in the late '90s. I recall it being eagerly awaited by their fans. I like the singles, but I don't think I ever heard the whole thing through before. It's good, and it very much evokes a particular time for me. "Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage!"
Overly long and very boring. Once you get past the hits it's unbearable.
not my personal cup of tea but i can def tell this is iconic
me gustó al principio, después se fue todo al carajo. No lo terminé de escuchar. le doy dos estrellas solo por tonight, tonight.
я не знаю как это оценивать два часа, я не ебнутый слушать что-то столько я значю что там будет там будет не особо интересный, атмосферный инструментал и безумно однообразный вокал этот альбом можно усреднить и собрать всего несколько треков пошел он нафиг
Long with lots of skips - sorry mellon. guitar tones are pretty boss though
It's cool if he wants to do this kind of thing behind closed doors, but this is really none of my business.
2 stars for the 2 hours of this I’m not listening to
The pitchfork review calls it an album "only teenagers could love" and maybe I would have loved it if I'd first heard it years ago but I'm now neither a teenager nor a Smashing Pumpkins fan. I enjoy the songs where they do something different but I can't tell if I actually like them or just want a break from the rest of album... It felt like an achievement to have made it to the end- I don't think that's how listening to an album should feel. Favourite song: Cupid De Locke Least: Tales Of A Scorched Earth
Toneieieieieieight. 2 uur lang die zeikstem
not a bit of me
TT better than I remembered, lovely outro into JellyBelly, Billy's voice still kinda annoying me but I love those chords out of chorus. Very lovely strings, very epic opening. Jelly Belly is the kind of pumpkins I hate, mindlessly thrashy, Billy's whiney twang just doesn't suit heavier material for me. Some great little progressions in between large swathes of messy 4 chord guitar sections. Good solo. Also could be my speakers, but this sounds MUDDDDYYYY. Likely intentional but still. Zero is a classic, fucking love those harmonics and will forever. However jesus I didn't realise how much of the problem I had with the pumpkins was Billy's dumb fucking voice. Here is no why, forgettable instantly. BWBF is a ripper, no surprises there, Billy ends up with a bit of edge in this one. To forgive and Ode to No One, to be honest, spaced out on these ones, I was too busy googling fucked up stories of Billy during the late 2000s when it seemed to be his mission to ruin every tour he went on. Funny stuff. Came back for Love, a pseudo-electronic nu-punk thing, kinda slams in the verses, well mixed, surprised by this one. Billy needs more processing on other tracks, I think half the time the problem is his voice is just floating over the top of a lot of low and low-middle end in these tracks and it's just all you can hear. Cupid de Locke immediately a breath of fresh air with some pretty strings. Galapogos is a nice song, softer, slower, art rock stuff just suits Billy better, the guitar gets to shine, can hear more rhythm in the bass. Muzzle, another song that sounds exactly like every other song, soft, loud, soft. Porcelina, cool guitar sound in the chorus, I literally cannot stop thinking about Billy's voice once again, how little it fits. take me down my fav song I didn't already know, obviously beach boys or generally 60s pop inspired, it's pleasant, especially after approximately 50 minutes of 90s guitar driven art rock, I would expect more variety from a self proclaimed concept album, let alone one inspired by the White Album. 1979 is a song for me that is incredibly overplayed, but came as a breath of fresh aire after an hour and 20 of stuff I was just not interested in. Tales of a Scorched Earth not bad. Thru the Eyes of Ruby genuinely I think one of my fav songs on the album, clean, classic rock, great riff with some cool very 70s psychedelia stuff going on, Billy is reasonably mixed with some backup singing to help him out, i also actually don't mind it's length. It's a shame this is such a negative review, I don't like not liking things, I just expected such an acclaimed record to offer me more than the 4 singles I already knew. A couple of very pretty transitional and interlude songs in there I liked a lot, but for the most part I think this album is, for one, PAINFULLY long, Billy and the producers should be shot after including 2 hours of music on this record. There's a very good reason not many bands do, if this record had ended on 1979 I would have walked away going "Not bad!" but instead I'm subjected to another 45 minutes of torturous nothings narrated by one of my least favourite voices in 90's alternative rock. I think a huge part of this listen was expectations, for such critical success, I just really don't see the big deal. I have read a lot about the commercialisation of the music industry and music journalism reaching it's height around this time being a reason, hipsters casting into the ever receding tides of 90s popular music trying to reel in something meaningful, large, poetic, and reeling in something, indeed large, gargantuan, but inedbile. There is just no helping feeling that 2 thirds of the album could be cut and the album would be much better.
Saw the Artist. Expected the worse, Got a little below average. So I guess it was a positive overall experience
I'm not a fan of rock or any metal genre i used to like them but now it's a thing of the past so I would like it if you would pick other albums from other genre
This is the prototypical double-album that would have been a lot better if they just boiled it down to one disc. Neither the sound or the songwriting are varied enough to support two hours of music, so a lot of these songs just mush together in a wall of guitars and Billy Corgan's caterwauling. There's good music scattered throughout but it's a chore to listen to the whole thing to enjoy all of it.
Too long album to stay interesting.
Nope. Wobei ich "Siamese Dream" besser finde.
First two songs I enjoy, after that I really can’t remember it.
No me gustó mucho el estilo..
6/10. Need to feel more vibes
this album was long as fuck and changed genres 20 times and took me all day to finally finish it and idek what i think about it bc it was so all over the place
You know, there are some great songs here. Billy Corgan is a good guitar player and a decent songwriter. He’s got a whiny voice, but that’s what we liked in the 90s. However, this album is too damn long. There simply isn’t enough variety or novelty or good humour to justify this length.
I owned this double CD when it came out. I listened to it quite a bit, even if Billy Corgan’s vocals were and still awful. This album holds up for what it is, but I wouldn’t revisit it. It doesn’t make me cringe as much as some other albums of my youf, but it’s not great.
Why the fuck is this 2 hours long?
Et par fine numre på, men det er sgu for langt.
Selvom det er en af de helt store og grundlæggende alt-rock-udgivelser, så kan anden halvdel ikke hamle op med første, og det trækker ned på den lange bane. Derudover havde jeg lige glemt, at man faktisk skal indstille sig på Billy Corgans vokal. En såkaldt acquired taste
i cant believe in this 2 hour huge album they were like "yeah let's put the hit 2/5 of the way down the 2nd half of the album that's what were gonna do". which sure, prob for the best as this album does drag (obv the length ain't helping) so yeah. if it was 20mins shorter i might of rated it higher.
What a boring double album, I was tired of his bland voice by the third track (I had 25 more songs to conquer). There's only so much of this particular kind of guitar work that I can handle before I start dreading everything. Honestly, it really made 1979 look like a 5/5 hit song, when it is like a 3 at best.
Overall not a fan. I was almost able to come up to a 3* because of some of the songs I recognized and liked, but so many of the songs were too slow for my taste, and the album had a lot higher concentration of ones I didn't enjoy because of the density of those
Considering I tend to change the radio station when popular Smashing Pumpkin songs come on; I was already not prepared for a 2 hour album session with Billy Corgan and friends. After the first song, I thought I might have a change of heart on these guys but Billy's voice is too much for me. When will this end? Help.
This was the first one I’ve gotten where it felt like a slog to get through. 2+ hours of song after song with a nasally/whiny voice is too much. Only a few saving graces in this. Likes: Bullet with Butterfly Wings, Galapagos, 1979
It was okay
al right too calm for me,a dn a litlle old
I don't know why so many people say this is their best work or their greatest album. I found it to be lackluster.. it did have a good emo rock type of vibe I for sure liked Siamese Dream better. I'm still not sure if I'm totally into this band or not lol. 2.5/5 for me
This started well. First couple of instrumental tracks were accomplished and made for good listening. However, most of the album is pretty dire - noisy and unremarkable.
you really can have too much of a good thing
I dislike the vocals, but musically there are a lot of good things here. Sadly it is yet another bloated double album and my religion forbids those from receiving a good scores.
Good songs, vocals like nails on a chalkboard
This was too long, should’ve cut half the songs
26/02/2026 *1. mellon collie and the infinite sadness - not looking forward to this album.... said i wouldn't dnf any album, but reallly contemplating it lol. two hours!!!!! like the strings... really nice as it's going on actually. a lot gentler than the other album on here. 2. tonight, tonight - really liking the strings again! still don't like the vocals again. too whiny..... *3. jellybelly - sounds more metal.... like the guitar though! emo lyrics.... drumming is great!! really love the sounds at the end! 4. zero - already know this one. remember loving the sound, but the lyrics put me off so much that i stopped listening to it... vocals aren't bothering me so much on this one, don't know why! just got to the last verse and take it back. *5. here is no why - bit slower... his voice reminds me of a grungier brian molko.... tooo whiny and american :( not grating me as much as the other album... need to compare afterwards? liking this one a lot more so far. *6. bullet with butterfly wings - already know the chorus of this? vaguely know the rest of this. immediately less whiny. imagine it'll start soon. lyrics are a bit cringey. don't like when he screams.... love how crunchy the guitar gets!!!! feel like i am frying my ears <3 7. to forgive - love the organ. backing vocals make it sound less whiny. nice :) 8. an ode to no one - not massive on this one. kindof started liking it and the tempo has changed..... not massive again. making me work on sending off my portfolio (again!!!!), silver linings...... 9. love - more electronic... not a fan *10. cupid de locke - harp!!! liking this one so far... reminds me of alice in wonderland for some reason??? spoken word? reaaaaallll nice!!! 11. galapagos - love the shoegazey instrumentals.... like a song from a gregg araki movie...... really lovely. 12. muzzle - nothing to say lol, not my thing again. 13. porcelina of the vast oceans - more subdued... really loving it about a minute in, but still got eight more to go lol. just got loud.... don't dislike it, but was enjoying the peace. not as big a fan of the louder bits and zoned out towards the end, but really enjoying the dreamier songs on here. *14. take me down - different vocalist?? realllllly loving it without the really whiny voice <3 really sweet lyrics as well. gorgeous :) 15. where boys fear to tread - onto the second album! had a quick break in between.... liked the riff during the chorus, especially towards the end 16. bodies - getting very sleepy now.... still 12 songs to go!!! don't like the screaming vocals in the chorus. reminds me of metal vocals..... 17. thirty-three - immediately more dreamy.... still not a fan of the vocals. reaaaalllly loved the one song that wasn't whiny :( 18. in the arms of sleep - not big on this one, but wouldn't complain if it was in the background :/ over this album now.... so long.... *19. 1979 - didn't realise i'd heard this one before! liking it so far... less whiny than most of the other songs. 20. tales of a scorched earth - louder. not a fan. reaallly not a fan oh my god. very emo. waaaayyy too screamy for me :( 21. tru the eyes of ruby - begging this man to shut up oh my actual god. why is this song and album so long. losing the will right now. liked the dreamy ending. 22. stumbleine - aarrhg. really thought this album would change my mind on the smashing pumpkins after the first few songs, but it's gone downhill again. 23. xyu - please stop screaming..... mary had a little lamb bit is very im14andthisisdeep. do not like metal music and this takes far too much influence from metal for me....... like the screeching at the end. 24. we only come out at night - electronic again... not big on the more electronic songs so far. this is reminding me of that godawful quirky white stripes album....... 25. beautiful - not liking the start of this. if you got rid of the second half, i don't think it would affect the album much! really not enjoying this anymore. not a fan of the beat or the tinkling sound. 26. lily (my one and only) - reminding me of the shit white stripes album again. too twee. 27. by starlight - like the fade in. guitar is nice.... still realllllly don't like the vocals 28. farewell and goodbye - so glad this is over!!!!! my thoughts on this are up there i am not spending anymore time on this am going straight to bed...........................
I usually like rock but there’s something about this album- not sure what, that does not make me want to listen to it again. Songs i liked: Love, Take Me Down,
Goede muziek, zingt iets te nasaal voor mijn smaak.
Mijn ding niet, behalve een paar trage liedjes vond ik het maar meh
Not for me
Good alternative group from the 90’s. Good sound, and music.
What a slog of an album. 2 hours of Billy Corgan is about 110 minutes more than I can stand.
When to listen: October moody. My college boyfriend had a few songs from this album in a mix he made me and I liked those songs, which made me think I’d like this album. But it was truly meh to moi.
TL;DLA :D 5/10
Wow, a come down and a half from reviewing some of their other work. It starts really badly with poor quality production and whiny, jeery vocals - like the Gallaghers stumbled into a rock band. They return to this kind of sound a number of times in the album. It has brighter spots and some songs were reasonable, I guess that shouldn’t be a surprise when it’s 2 HOURS long and 28 tracks to choose from. The slower songs are ok and a few more typical rock tracks that are fine. But that’s clutching at straws. Clearly to the true fans it’s brilliant and there must be some poor blighters who have listened to the 5 hours 51 epically long extended super runtime edition. I was just left thinking why they bothered. If they picked out the 6 or 7 best songs and left it at that, this still wouldn’t be that good of an album, but it would have taken up less of my life.
"By Starlight" is possibly the most dreadful song I have ever heard. Something about dead eyes and a painful droning on. Like a drunk at a karaoke. There was no real expression of despair it was that same person that cant see their own drunken demise. The final song was so flat and dire it nearly washed away anything of note down the giant musical drain for me. Rolling back I loved Siamese Dream, so this was utter confusion. Just in case I was hallucinating I re-played that album as a way to center myself. Not sure what I learnt but it's like the vocals took a major dip. "Zero" for example sounded like a child americana making "meeeaahhhhhh" sounds and chatting with a terrible accent (not all Americans have a bad accent) but about midway through I heard the old rawness I previously liked. It wasn't all a miss, there were plenty of OK songs, but it was so long and bedraggled that I think my connection with the music started to wane. I only just accepted the vocals on SD and this was just too much for me. Why couldn't they condense this into a decent album I have no idea. Ironically, I was confused why I liked SD as previously didn't engage with Smashing Pumpkins and here I am now confused why I now don't like this. And what the hell is "Cupid De Locke" all about.
58. tonight tonight
too damn long
pas trop mon style et la cover m'a trick
Ну пока похоже что-то на Моцарта хазз, особенно обложка. Начало интересное но скучноватое. Интро тунайт, шикарное прям дух захватило. Дальше очень нравится соединение многих музыкальных инструментов. Не смотря на мою неприязнь к скрипучему вокалу, тут он мне даже нравится, пока что 3,5. 2 Часа, ВЫ СЕРЬЕЗНО?! 6 песня вообще не понравилась, очень хотелось выключить, но следующая to forgive прям запала. Следующая опять слишком активная, на люблю резкие перепады, было б плавно, тогда 10/10. В общем на момент 9 песни я делаю перерыв. Понравилась только to forgive, дальше слушать и не хочется. В общем да. Я даже не стала слушать дальше, не было ни желания ни времени, быть может потом дослушаю
Didn't really dig that
Not as bad as I remember it but still not a huge fan of smashing pumpkins.
Would have given this 3 stars but fuck this album for being over 2 hours long, no one needs that much Smashing Pumpkins.
Well for what’s it’s worth this album was long, too long to be exact, and a lot of the songs were just straight up awful. Sometimes his voice actually sounded pretty good (mainly on the softer songs) but majority of the time he sounds like a mosquito buzzing in my ear. Overall I definitely did not need to listen to this album.
les amo osea pero este album aunque sea famoso no me ha gustado mucho
This is a good album to revisit. I haven't heard it in a while.
**A mix of good and bad. Some good greasy listening tracks and some with just loud noise.
Has some bops, but also had no business being that long
Był całkiem ciekawy, nie do końca moge powiedzieć, że mi siadł. Było parę kawałków, które mi się spodobały - takie jak bullet with butterfly wings, jednak nadal brakowało mi tam czegoś. glos wokalisty mi sie nie podobal
#244/1001. To be honest, I'm only half way through, so giving a rating now feels like cheating. On another hand, I have 1 hour of experience already, which is about 30 minutes more than a good album should last. The album just turned 30, which makes me about 22 when this came out, still in potential target group. And yes, I think Siamese Twins was on the turntable every now and then and some friends had this one on their shelves - parts besides the hits are familiar. This also includes the too heavy metal sounding guitar, and the horrible voice of Corgan (did he want to sound like he had a flu or something?), but also the beautiful acoustic pieces. Some musical experimentation audible here and there, nothing specially inventive. The buzz guitars sound the same every track. For me the best songs are the ones where the distortion or guitars are turned off. Perhaps instead of the 28 songs one could get a rather nice Mercury Rev fanboy acoustic album somewhere around 30 minutes. Rather that than a 6CD 30th anniversary, thanks.
The high points are obvious and undeniable, but it's sprawling, two hours long, and has some real emotional insights like "love is suicide." Didn't finish.
I loved this album when it first came out and I was much younger. Listening to it now was much different. There were some really great tracks and then multiple songs in a row that just felt like filler. There was no need to make this a double album since a lot of the songs could have been left in Billy's head instead of making it to the studio.
4/10
really enjoyed the first half of this album quite a bit but my interest died off into the latter maybe it deserves another listen so that it might grow on me
Heel veel luid kabaal. Muziek is op zich niet zo slecht, de zanger is afgrijselijk. hun openingsnummer (Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness) is het beste & ook gwn oprecht goed, het is dan ook volledig instrumentaal. Ik heb het juist niet kunnen afluisteren want het was te overweldigend tijdens het studeren.
When they weren’t screaming, I didn’t hate it. But they scream a lot.
I started skipping after a while, this album may have gotten away with a single cd, but two whole hours? Get over yourselves you self-important wankers. Half these songs were filler. Only reason I'm not giving it 1 star is 1979.
Not bad confussing not my style
Some real art, but just too long to appreciate as a single album for me. I struggle with getting a feel for double albums sometimes. There are some absolutely solid pieces of rock songwriting here - all the singles are really great. Love some of the riff and hook writing. There's too much of it for me though and personally I find it feels like song after song after song - I couldn't find an overall arc that helped me stick with it.
I do not like grunge and its loud and harsh
#44 I appreciate the heavy guitar but that's it
Chato
Pre listening thought: this album is 2 hours long so it better be really fucking good to justify the length Post listening thought: it was not good enough to justify the length I never listened to smashing pumpkins in their heyday, they just kind of passed me by. On the whole I like what the instruments are doing. I do not like billy corgan's voice. It is definitely an acquired taste that I have not acquired. I feel like I would have given this an extra star if they had a different vocalist (it's so completely distracting how much he sounds like a muppet) and maybe another star if it had been 40 minutes long. So much of what I like about this period in music is here, so it's weird this is getting a 2. But right now it's a 2. Not so unlistenable that it's a 1 but I probably won't be listening again.
Uh
Litt for langt album for meg
Mediocre music does not deserve a double album
At one hand, it's not as bad as I expected it to be. Some moments were pretty fun (especially Jellybelly). But annoying moments are really annoying. 3 and I am excluding one point because I do it with all albums that shouldn't be double
Not as bad as other albums I’ve had to listen to for this album. Some songs were almost good but were brought down by other songs in the album. Also, 2 hours is too long for an album imo.
this gets points deducted for just being wayyy too freaking long. screw that. some decent ballads and guitar riffs but lots of nothingness and an awful singer's voice? really? Would I listen again? No Deserves to be on this list? No 2.2
Struggled more than I thought I would.
Fine
Bit of a slog at over 2 hours. Can't believe there are longer versions of this album. Fav tracks: 1979 Saved a song: N RYM: Y (#338)
Bon début mais l’album est trop long.
There are some interesting pieces here. But not enough to warrant a double album, much less one I needed to listen to (as a complete album). Lots of drama — although I give them credit for showing range on a few tracks. Some tracks are unlistenable. A 2.
N.1
Not my cup of tea . Some songs were good though . Also I don’t think the two hour length is justified… love the art cover btw
I think I coulda died without this one.
Not my cup of tea
Okayish - would have been my thing when I was a teenager but a bit whiny now.
Not really a fan of their music. I’ve heard their singles before of course but I’ve never heard the entire album and honestly, it’s just not for me.
Self-indulgent and bloated, nothing here justifies the two hour running time. It would be too long at half the length. There are moments of promise here, and songs like the album opener “Tonight, Tonight” hint at something more dramatic and theatrical than the post-grunge slog that makes up the brunt of this album. I’m not a fan of this band, obviously, but there are songs on Siamese Dream that still stand out after all the years; not so here. There are few memorable riffs, the quiet-loud thing doesn’t work because the guitar tones when it gets loud are so distorted that they don’t have any dynamics; the only thing that really stands out to me is how cringey Billy Corgan’s lyrics are. And that’s putting aside his whiny tone. It’s less angsty and more a parody of angst. Fucking awful honestly. If there’s an identifiable concept or theme running through this album to tie it together, I must have missed it. You’d think that because Billy Corgan is such an egotistical gasbag that he’d at least be able to back it up with something musically worthwhile, but you’re not going to find it here.
3 classic tunes among a lot of bloat.
I simply don’t think this album was for me, I can musically see the appeal and it’s a very well done album but it’s just not my personal cup of tea in terms of vocals, genre, and the 2 hour runtime. If I really sat down and gave it another listen I think I could rate it higher but i honestly don’t have the push to even listen to the second half. I do really love the song from them I’ve grown up listening to like ‘Tonight, Tonight’, ‘Bullet With Butterfly Wings’, and ‘1979’ Strong 2/5, leaning towards 3
bloated
A promising name. Unfortunately, the album falls short of my expectations.
Grunge really isn’t my thing but I was curious about this since 1979 is a great track. Then I found coming from the back of the previous 1.5 hour album that this was even longer. No album should be 2 hours. Specially when you listen to one per day, it’s just too much to take in and do justice. Tops you can listen to each track once. Honestly, this was quite boring. 1979 is good as ever, the rest was meh. The vocals that work so well on 1979 just feel whiny on other tracks (Body). Probably a weak 3 star but due to the length a 2 star. I couldn’t wait for it to end.
If you randomly select any 10 of these songs, we're looking at 3 stars. Handpick the best 10, we're looking at 4/5. But I absolutely cannot get through this entire thing again, I promised myself I wouldn't after my listen 2 years ago. Unabridged, this is 2 stars at best
I think this record has the same issue with it now as when I originally heard it back in the day, it’s just too long. There’s some real highlights but it gets bogged down
I hate the Smashing Pumpkins and Billie Corgen's irritating ass voice.
I was never a massive fan of Smashing Pumpkins. Listened to Siamese Dream when it came out and went back and checked out their first few record because of that. They def have some jams. But I remember feeling fatigued by them when Mellon Collie came and out and never bothered to listen it. The singles were played constantly and didn’t really appeal to me and Billy Corgan kinda annoyed me so I figured why bother. I think it’s too late for me to hear this album for the first time. There’s way worse music out there but it’s another case of my built-in impressions coming in colouring my reaction.
TL,DR. But congrats on 40 years. Once, I called Billy Corgan on Thanksgiving.
never really liked this one.
this Put me in Bad Humour
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Can't really get behind the singer, and this overstays its welcome by roughly a whole album.
Never been a great fan of The Smashing Pumpkins, in particular due to Billy Corgan's voice, that does it for some songs, but certainly not for two hours long. I quite liked some songs on Siamese Dream, but when this album came out, and I obtained a copy, I could not bear to listen to it all at once. 30 years later, it's all the same and actually, I found it even more tedious. What a pretentious BS. Yes, there are some classics on this album, ('"Tonight, Tonight", "Bullet With Butterfly Wings", and "1979") but what of the other 25 songs? In the end I can't tell the difference between one song or the other, with a few exceptions ("Galapogos" or "Stumbleine") but my ears hurt because of Billy Corgan's whining, teenage angst and self importance, meh. 2/5
On the upside, this has ambition and mood. It also made me significantly less insecure about singing because I can't do Billy Corgan's voice. On the downside, the mixing feels off (voice way down mby because it sucks). Doesn’t hit like genres it draws on, punk, mid-west, grunge- no thanks. Feels derivative
This settles Smashing Pumpkins as a singles only band for me.
Chiaaaaant
Ok 2/5
I dodnt get through all of disk 1. Not a big SP fan. Dont hate them, just dont listen to them. And so with this, not a terrible album but not a great one for me. There are aspects i like - thw drummer is great, and aspect i think meh - the sound they have seems quite formulaic in some way. I probably ahould finiah this at some point though. Two stars for a good album, not a terrible album but not a great album.
Did remind me of Nirvana but much less screaming. I also think 2 hours is too much.
The Smashing Pumpkins sound like Nirvana if Nirvana made interesting, good music. Bonus points for unique song names. 2 hours was way to long, I really struggled to make it through. 2.4 outta 5
Overblown and pretentious as hell. Yeah, a couple of quite stunning moments, amid a couple of hours of dross.
The gang is rockin’ hard, can’t say I actually liked it but I do appreciate the effort.
Мне больше нравится Ava adore. Здесь либо слишком меланхолично, либо трешово, хотя есть оркестр, и звук очень хорош, но не мое
It's not a bad album but I just can't cause the mix quality is painful, it sounds muddy and dull with lack of depth. feels like my ears are blocked. listened to remastered 2012 but it didn't help. it was probably done deliberately but i can't agree with this decision
I can hear that it is a great album but I think I don’t like grunge music that much. I only enjoyed the 1979 song, thats a banger. The rest I could not really get in to. 4/10
Way too angsty. The lyrics are pure aimed at teenage boys. Which is a bit gay.
Some good stuff but a lot that was unenjoyable to listen to
Corgan’s voice has always been a huge hindrance for me as I’ve attempted to enjoy this band. Despite this, 1979 has always been one of my favorite 90’s songs so I at least wanted to listen that far. It was rough. I give this one 2 out of 5 stars, and that’s solely because of 1979.
Joskus julkaisun aikaan "Jyrkistä" tms tuli Bullet with butterfly wings-kipale ja silloin se kolahti ala-asteikäiseen Zaiffaan. Onneksi ei kuitenkaan tullut ostettua levyä, sillä suurin osa biiseistähän on aivan standardi-rokkia. Tuli levy kuunneltua läpi useassa osassa joten selkeää tarinan kulkua ei jäänyt mieleen, mutta vähän sekava rakenne, vuoroin todella pliisua maalailua ja välillä vähän jotain yritystä ja särönappikin löytynyt kitarasta. Loppua kohden Billy "Dorkan" Corganin äänikin alkoi ärsyttää liikaa. 8-10 biisin levynä olisi ollut ehkä ihan kelpo paketti. Tuplalevynä Irakin sodan kuulustelutyökalu. Ehkä jos kuuntelisi ajatuksella koko läjän niin pisteet voisi kääntyä kolmeen.. tai yhteen. Tuu points
Pari hyvää biisiä 28:sta niin ei sillä kuuhun vielä mennä.
Such an overrated band. The voice is like nails on a chalkboard. Not a fan, despite them having a few OK songs. Those will raise it to a 2.
Not as bad as I expected but still not great
Bit of a bloated mess (2 hours?!). Signifies the beginning of the end for the Pumpkins, as Billy’s creative endeavours only miss the mark further from here. A few highs starkly outshone by absolute mediocrity.
5/10 - typical mid 90s american indie rock, ok but 15 tracks too long, issue with bands realising CDs can be rammed with music
Way. Too. Long. Would've been worth it if Corgan could actually sing.
Ugh, so long. SO LONG. like 2 good songs.
This might have been a 3 but for the length. Definitely some good bits of pumpkin goodness but this was smashed by stretches of unpleasant noise during 8 minute songs.
I find his voice annoying I'm sorry lol
You know, I hated the Pumpkins as a teen, but I didn't mind revisiting this. I mean, I still petered out after hour 1, but I was more mildly bored than horribly annoyed.
*to the tune of No More Parties In LA* "No more 90s alt rock, please god no more 90s alt rock"
2.5 Terrible vocals. Otherwise ok sounding
one had moments but generally too long for me to get into
Yet another case of mediocre music ruined by an annoying male singer, Only song worth listening to is 1979, in an otherwise unbearably long album.
I wanted to enjoy this so much more than I actually did! I owned this double CD as a teenager, and was hoping it was stand the test of time...but nope. Truly a bloated, 'we-need-an-editor' album. Just look at the listens for each track on streaming platforms. The singles on this one have over 25, 50, and 70 (!) times as many listens as the most of the deep cuts. Yikes. Long live Siamese Dream...
Too long
This is like a grunge buffet that just keeps going. Seriously, it’s way too long!
Et velprodusert og langt album. Sikkert en viktig introduksjon til SM. Men, dette er ikke noe for meg. Jeg likte noen av låtene på slutten av andreplata. Litt for hardt, syntes mye var ganske likt.
Eh. Wouldn’t listen again
Would have made an okay single album, not as good as what came before.
I tried but it's just not for me
This album is beautifully produced. The drums, guitars, keys, strings...all incredibly done. It would be a 5/5 if it was an instrumental. Unfortunately it's not. One of the worst singers I've ever heard sings over the gorgeous music and ruins almost every song. There is a track called "Muzzle" which got me excited as I thought maybe the lead singers band mates realize they would sound better if they put a muzzle on the lead singer...but no...he is singing on that song too. To make matters worse, this album is 2 hours long!!!
Somewhat familiar band. I might have heard some of their songs back then but wasn't impressed. I am not a fan of the vocal. An OK album.
There are no doubt some great tracks on this album … but it is way too long and by the time I got to the end I’d forgotten them 🤷♀️
Long album. Best Songs Tonight, Tonight Bullet With Butterfly Wings Take Me Down 1979
Billy Corgan can’t sing… plus I hear he’s a free market libertarian
I hate the smashing pumpkins
Unpopular opinion, but the heavier songs are much, much, much better than the mellow songs on this record. They allow the drummer to really display his talent, and the crunchy guitars kind of drown out Billy's whine (most of the time). In contrast, everything (lyrics, music, enjoyment) is drowned out by Billy's whine on the mellow/emotional songs, all of which are supremely skippable. In fact, it seems at this point in the band's career, Billy Corgan has decided that the focal point of every song should be his quite frankly subpar vocals. Overall, while the record is ambitious and has a lot of great moments, the enormous run-time and the vocal slop don't just prevent this record from achieving greatness - they make it a genuine disappointment. 2.0/5.0: Disappointing
Just fine
More like Mellon Collie and the Infinite Screeching Started off alright. The guys voice soon pissed me off so bad - was like nails on a chalkboard. I knew 2 of these songs beforehand, can't say I particulary liked them There was no need at all for this album to be 2 hours long. Absolutely no need 2 ⭐️
some good songs but two hours was too long, definitely could have been cut down. billy’s voice can be really hard to listen to
It turns out that one Smashing Pumpkins song in a row is a good time, three in a row is a less good time, and twenty-eight in a row is a war crime.
What an aptly titled album because melancholy is how this album made me feel. The album switches between Alternative/Art-Rock, Grunge, and Heavy-Metal - I just wish they could make up their mind. Ultimately, I found the album boring.
High school drama club over here.
I don't really get the hype
Good until the guy started singing
Never understood the hype. And now that I’ve listened to the whole album I can honestly say that it is not my kind of music
No. Too much noise
I am not a Smashing Pumpkins lover or a hater. For the most part, I found the quality of the album to be really good but I'm sorry - nothing justifies that run time. It is nowhere near engaging enough to be the length of a movie. If you have more songs you want to put out, then make a deluxe like everyone else? Bullet With Butterfly Wings is crazy good though.
i had something to say about the album but that was 1h40 of music ago. i really hate his voice. 1979 is a good song though
Not for me
Honestly pretty juvenile. I feel like the lyrics are super woe is me and Billy corrigan’s voice annoys me. Not a fan and I don’t really get the hype. Not unlistenable, just not good.
Just cos you can write them doesn't mean they need to be on the album. There's some ok mid 90s 'alt rock' tunes swimming alongside the mediocre ones. It's just all a bit too much Billy Corgan in one sitting for my ears. once I laughed at those lyrics for Zero it was quite hard to take the rest of it seriously.
I am very conflicted about this artist. Instrumentals can be very catchy, but the vocals are so grating to my ears. One song was worth repeating, the rest I can't. 2
Alternative rockia joka iskee kyllä johonkin, mutta ajanmyötä nasaali määkyminen ottaa kyllä pajatsoon
The fact that Billy Corgan is now a wrestling promoter tells you everything you need to know about his “artistic” philosophy: Make entertainment of the lowest common denominator to appeal to as many dumb people as possible. Given that this album is made up of fairly inoffensive grunge rockers and ballads, I could see having given it three stars if it had been a single album. But nah son, two hours? Two stars. At least the album cover is pretty.
Eipä tässä kuin ehkä kaksi rallia itselle ollut.
This album appears to be suffered from a bad case of billycorganitus.
Gish, Siamese Dream, and Pisces Iscariot are all far superior albums. Listening again reminded of why I sold this one long ago even though I love Smashing Pumpkins. 1979 and Tonight, Tonight are the only tracks worth saving off this album.
Yet another double album that does not earn its runtime. A lot of the songs are overly long as well, further dragging on what is a rather boring collection of songs. The saving grace is that a small handful of songs are actually worth listening to, else this would've been an easy 1 star rating.
Alotta sounds on this one. I've never been a huge pumpkin guy, this has not changed that. I've once heard this album called one of the greatest double albums of all time. That guy was an idiot.
makes me wonder if I can name “rock” or “alternative” when asked about my favourite music because they are declared to be both and they are both but I didn’t like it and it’s too rocky for me but I thought I liked rock but this sometimes just appears to be noise to me and now I have to be strict again but I don’t wanna be strict I wanna find true love here but it’s hard and also I have to admit that I didn’t even make it through I just listened to half because it’s so long and now Giorgia’s gonna be mad at me for being strict again and I so wanted to like it because i liked the artwork and now i wonder if I actually like rock or just nice artworks please forgive me dear pumpkins but not for me 2,5/5 🎃
Some decent guitar but the frontman really really cant sing
Had some absolute bangers and some absolute ear violators, but I appreciated the genre blending nonetheless.
It is not quite a two star but il never listen to it gain. Pretty tight, some good melodies and song writing here and there, but the songs got me zoning out and focusing on all other stuff than the music
Infinitely too long. Needed so many edits.
This is the sound of Billy Corgan being handed the keys to the studio, the universe, and probably a mirror he never stopped gazing into. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness is not so much an album as it is a sprawling monument to self-indulgence. Across two discs and 28 tracks, Corgan tries to be everything at once—angry teen prophet, fragile poet, guitar god, misunderstood genius—and ends up being mostly exhausting. There are a few good songs scattered in the mess (1979, Tonight, Tonight), but you have to wade through a lot of overblown, melodramatic sludge to find them. Corgan’s voice, never the band’s strongest asset, is everywhere—whining, whispering, shouting, often in the same song—and it wears thin fast. There’s no editor in sight, and no one seemed willing to tell him that maybe not every idea needed to be a track. The album jumps from orchestral ballads to punishing riff-fests like a teenager flipping through outfits before a prom they didn’t want to go to in the first place. It’s ambitious, sure, but ambition without focus turns into bloat. For all the grandeur, the emotion feels more performative than profound. It wants desperately to be important, to be the statement of a generation, but the result is something closer to an endless diary entry—loud, overwrought, and full of feelings, but ultimately lacking clarity. A shorter, sharper album might’ve been great. This, instead, is Billy Corgan’s endless guitar solo of a personality on double vinyl.
I don't know if I have the ability to get into this kind of music right now. I need something more chill and tender.
Judged The Smashing Pumpkins unfairly before this. By no means will I be searching this out to listen again, but whereas before I thought I actively disliked pretty much every TSP song, this has a couple of bangers.
This was way too long. I never heard much of The Smashing Pumpkins, and after this album, I don't regret it—nothing there for me.
Not my kind of stuff
Not my cup of tea
OK, a few things to cover off on this one To start with, I really dislike the lead singer's voice. It's so whiny and off-putting. The instruments are quite good though Next, this album does have a fairly consistent mood/tone, but it jumps all over the place genre-wise. One song is a piano backed pop song, the next is heavy metal, then we hit grunge, and on and on. It's impressive that they can write songs that are good and so different sounding, but it makes the experience worse for me as a listener I think if this 2 hour (!) album had been split into 3 albums, each grouped by genre, I would have enjoyed it a lot more. As it is, it's far too long and self-indulgent
Overblown and predictable. The moment when the crunchy guitar will enter was always too obviously signposted. Some nice moments but ponderously paced, much prefer Siamese dream.
Ничего хорошего
Yep, nothing that great on this album. It gets 2 stars for at least being a somewhat decent album. Wouldn't listen to it again though.
Fitting title for my first day back at work after parental leave. A few properly great songs (1979, Tonight Tonight). A lot that is not for me though. Just too pompous, earnest and overlong, all while lacking wit or humour. An Ode To No One? Hmmm.
mid
The favourite album of that one guy you always bump into parties but don't really want to be friends with.
I didn’t really like it. I couldn’t understand any of what the singer was saying and I can’t really relate to any of the songs.
I like the songs where he sings, but the screechy metal stuff is just not for me. Respect the craft of it but find it unpleasant.
Mediocre album and the infinite runtime. I've never had a major issue with Smashing Pumpkins, and as a teenager, I actually liked the hits quite a bit. But then I grew up. 1979 is a legit good song. Unfortunately it's surrounded by 2 hours of fluffy whining that doesn't really make a statement.
Corg and crew deliver exactly what they promise: 121 minutes of aptly-named joylessness.
I thought I'd be giving this a solid three, but an album with 28 songs should have more than 4 bangers. Most of it is pleasant but not memorable. I saw this tour and they only played 16 songs for the show including the encores. That should have been the max number for the album as well.
Starts pretty nicely with that intro and strings, but soon we enter well known territory. Bands like these are make or break with the singer and I can't stand his voice.
I've concurred that life is too short to listen to a 2-hour album that sounds like this. I get that the theme is sadness (that's the pun of the title, right?) but it was just too much, and too long. Did I only listen to the first half? Yes. Is that cheating where this list is concerned? Possibly.
Jonkinlainen saavutus mutta levynä melkein mahdottomuus. Bullet With Butterfly Wings: kova. Kokonaisuus: loputon. 2,5
I listened to one side and that was enough,.I am sure they have many people who love the smashing pumpkins, but it was too long and inconsistent for me, a lot like use your illusion 1&2 it could have made a great single album
Not for me!
The Smashing Pumpkins, устав от обвинений критиков в монотонности, решили показать публике, что такое настоящий музыкальный калейдоскоп. И показали. Но, как это часто бывает, в стремлении угодить всем, можно потерять суть. Медленные, меланхоличные баллады на альбоме — вот то, что цепляет тут за живое. Они, как поздняя осень, тянут за собой тоску, но такую, которая согревает, а не которая заставляет разбежавшись прыгнуть. Каждая нота как капля холодного дождя на стекле. Голос Коргана здесь звучит как шёпот в пустом доме, где каждый звук отдаётся эхом внутренней боли. Эти песни берут тебя за руку и ведут туда, где все чувства обнажены. Но стоит только ребятам сменить тон на агрессивный, как всё сразу рушится. Гитары, которые они специально в этом альбоме настраивали на полтона ниже, в результате дают не тяжесть, а грязь. Бас гудит, накрывая собой всё, как индустриальный смог. Вокал тонет в этом хаосе, будто пытается пробиться сквозь бетонную стену. Вместо силы и напора — неразборчивая масса шума.
Is this some kind of antique MCR? Not for me 🫨
I've long been ambivalent about The Smashing Pumpkins. The hits have nostalgia value, and the line "despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage" is still a great line. But I'm just not very emo when it comes down to it. Probably does deserve a spot on this list.
This album is almost operatic in a certain way. I like the vibe and the story tellling where it exists, but Billy Corgan’s voice literally ruins the entire thing for me though. It’s metallic and whiny. Standout tracks are “1979” and “Zero”.
Did I just get yelled at for 2 hours? As someone who grew up in the 90's I recognize at least 4 of the 28 songs! I would probably need to give the album more time to fully appreciate it, but due to the "mellon collie and infinite sadness" of adult life, I cannot. Keep those 4 songs coming though, wicked cool!
A fair bit of variation between tracks on this album, but I think the reason that I really only thought I liked We Only Come Out At Night, for example, was because so many of the other tracks were such a slog. Also a double album is never the easiest thing to listen to, at more than 2 hours this is definitely at least twice as much Smashing Pumpkins than I needed to hear. A few very 90s-sounding tracks in here. I'm sure a lot of this was on the Daria soundtrack, if I could be bothered to look it up.
There are a few listenable songs scattered throughout the two mostly unbearable hours of this double album. Do not recommend.
i was excited to listen to this one but the further i got into it the more i just wanted it to end. ugh. maybe i just dont like the smashing pumpkins that much.
Too long. My ears hurt.
Groupe connu, en particulier par le morceau "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" (++), mais je n'avais jamais écouté un album entier. Manque de chance c'est un triple album avec plus de 2:00 de musique. Alors fatalement des morceaux moyens côtoient ceux plus réussis. Et malheureusement les plus réussis sont minoritaires ... =>2/5
I don't know if it's a work of art or a bloating piece of crap. There are a bench of interesting things from a musical point of view (but hey, if you deliver two hours of music that might be expected?), but it's way too long, way too pompous, the production is not really good and doesn't really do justice to the instruments (but it probably helps to hide Corgan's voice), and Corgan's voice is... well, Corgan's. Keep the good songs, make it a regular album, and it might be good. But this? Ugh.
I think my review is bias, because I don't like Billy Corgan. But the hits are good, and the output is crazy. If you like this kind of sound, this album is PACKED full of song. But overall this isn't for me
Glad to try it again but about the same as last time: nice to listen to, but all sounds the same and goes on forever
The album is too long, some songs I clearly liked, but it is very long, the truth is, a little difficult to listen to and concentrate on. 2.5
too long, didn't like the vocals, some OK music dotted around
Love the name and album art. I can appreciate the album, but I probably won’t be going back to it
This seems the point when the band went from kinda interesting to a bit boring. Egg headed ghost like annoyance, too much production.
Terrible, just drones on and on and on. Smashing Pumpkins never really managed to replicate their peak which was Siamese Dream.
Der Mittelteil geht, Rest zu lang zu einfallslos 4/10
Only listened to the first 5-6 songs but I just don’t like it. It’s also way too long with both discs (2 hours). Anyway it’s just not my kind of music.
If anyone else in the world with a different voice than this lead singer, was the lead singer I think I could enjoy these songs but since that's not the case only two stars first songwriting and interesting Melody
The instrumental backing is lovely The singing is unbearable
I really don’t think there is anything unique at interesting about this album. The music is generic and the songs are too long.
2/5 Some nice intrumentals in there but I didn’t like the vocals.
it’s a 2 hour smashing pumpkins album. a few songs are admittedly cool - especially when they don’t sound like themselves. unfortunately it’s still a 2 hour smashing pumpkins album and it’s tough for that to be good
Billie corgan's voice could grate cheese. 2 stars cuz I kinda like the roller coaster song
Tried this album too many times. Only a few good songs so not worth it and nowhere close to Siamese dream
It’s sooooo long and my favorite track is Tonight, Tonight so there’s a lot to get through after that
Nostalgic album that reminds me of the 90s but not super my vibe
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1bz7v49/billy_corgan_rides_a_rollercoaster/
billy corgan sucks for a million different reason but one of the main reasons is that his delivery surely inspired the likes of gerard way and other similarly SHIT emo music. so that alone is a crime against humanity as far as i’m aware. the music is good!!!! his voice and terrible vibes really ruin it which is really too bad. i actually liked the slower songs better because that’s more my vibe re: annoying man voice…the faster/more metal songs are too emo-adjacent! fav tracks: beautiful; lily (my one and only)