Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness

"Emptiness is loneliness, and loneliness is cleanliness / And cleanliness is godliness, and God is empty / Just like me" oh shut the fuck UP!!! honestly the more metal songs were much more listenable to me than the indie whiny ones. emilia recommended putting myself in the mindset of a teenage boy when listening to this which i think is apt as i cannot take this seriously as an adult and/or beautiful woman...

Certainly not wrong about ‘infinite’. There’s so many songs to wade through here. I got bored after about 7. Plus you have the constant, painful Billy Corgan screech and whine to contend with. Some nice symphonic elements and 1979 is on here but overall getting through this double album is completely torturous.

Left it playing in the backround while working. I get Blind Melon and The Smashing Pumpkins confused so at first I was excited about the album, then realized, no, it's not who I thought it was. Then I read the review about Cartman and now I can unhear it LOL. and the "Despite all my rage..." line reminds me more of Weird Al's Alternative Polka than Bullet with Butterfly Wings. I don't hate the album but not something I'll listen to again.

Long. Way too long. The bangers were bangers, but a lot of it just felt like filler. Could have been 2 albums one succesful, and one not.

Way too long of an album. And I can't believe there were so many songs that were already cut! Why not just make multiple albums? Does the saying "throw enough wet paper at a wall and eventually something will stick" apply here? Sure there's some really good songs in here, some of their best singles (1979, for instance). But 2 hours for an album is absurd. Now... for my review. I can imagine if I were a teenager listening to this for the first time, I would probably absolutely love this album. The mixture of angst and sadness pretty much describes a lot of what teenagers are going through and also describes a lot of songs on this album. I loved the intro piano. I wish there were more songs like that, even with singing. In fact, a lot of the slower sections in this album are very well put together. There's a lot to like about this album, but the length of it is such a turn off, I just wanted it to end. 2/5

if you stuck to the hits and a handful of the other songs on here you'd have one of the tightest no skip albums of the 90s instead of a double album full of some of the most forgettable music of the decade

This album was so so so SO long for no reason. The music wasn't nearly good enough to justify the length. It put me in a bad mood, and I ended up listening over the course of a few days. Would not recommend.

please no more double albums. there are 2 songs I enjoyed on here

this was one decent album worth of music followed by 1.5 more albums. one additional star for Tonight Tonight

A slow death by the 5th song.

This album was good just not for me

I like their sound. And with the hit-singles "Tonight, Tonight", "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" and especially "1979"‼ they had the basis for 40 mindblowing minutes. But a double album with almost two hours running time is a task much greater artists have already failed. And so have the Smashing Pumpkins for me too! One star down for not cutting it down to the (great) essence. 2,5

for a first album to have a double album says a lot to me. There are those songs on there that I know from main stream but Im not really into his voice that much. The album is long when you don't care much about the sound.

The good of this album, I really liked it. When it was good it was great for me. There was a lot of mid to bad songs but that’s just my opinion and I don’t think they were unlistenable bad, just not my type bad. Regardless, I went in not knowing any songs or have listened to any previous album of theirs & came out pretty impressed. High 2, could’ve been a 3 but 2 is fair here.

Just not for me.

This album is twice as long as it should have been. There are too many songs that add nothing but noise to it. Some good songs here but overall it is 2 stars or D+ for me.

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First of all, clocking in at over 2h, this is really too long. I'm getting an album to listen to every 24h - this album is over a twelfth of that period! On my first play, I quite like this album. Whether it gets more plays depends on what I'm doing today! As far as I can tell, as a body of work it's pretty mediocre. Might have been better with a bit more quality control.

Just not my jam.

Amazing first two songs then turned into something I did not enjoy

Can see the appeal, but not for me.

Couple bangers - got bored between

Just all round a bit too much of everything going on to enjoy it

"Zero" has great lyrics and "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" is iconic. This album def has a place in 90's grunge, with the unmistakable nasely squeaky voice of Billy. It's a long album, and I don't want to put myself through that again. It was a bit much. As far as enjoyment level, 2 star.

Blooooooooooaaaaatttttteeeeeddddd

was enjoying the first couple of tracks then was hit with some crappy 80s heavy metal boring shit. A couple of really good tracks but too much crap

Disclaimer: I rated Siamese Dream at 5/5 and I really love it. It managed what this record fails to do: deliver good music and shut up. I feel like Billy really believed he's something else and tried to make himself a monument. He failed, this sucks (with a few exceptions such as 1979). I have the comfort of having English as my second language so I can just tune out and not listen to the horrible, horrible lyrics. Otherwise, I'd have probably rated it at 1/5. I feel like the people I respect rating it at 5/5 are only doing it because of nostalgia, there's no way someone actually enjoys it front to back.

Fairly heavy guitars and vocals

2,5

I will be waging a war against all bands from the 90s with whiny lead singers.

Could have been a 3 but it's just too damn long

Why oh why is this so long? Why is it so revered? Why does every good song (of which there are a few) get immediately followed by a horrible stinker? The good songs, such as 1979 and By Starlight are really, really great. But it's 28 songs long and on a lot of them Corgan just ruins everything like a skinny, pompous Mr Blobby.

not for me. the music is fine but billy corgan's voice grates. and also the music is something way too melodramatic too

Puffffffff... Tiene cosas buenas y me ha llegado a gustar el primer CD, pero es MUY largo. Al final del segundo estaba casi exhausto.

Rock, 1995 -> 2

I do not get the appeal of this album at all. A 2 hour 2 disc snore fest and some of the worst singing I've heard. Not a fan of Smashing Pumpkins, even their big hit off this album "Bullet With The Butterfly Wings" is disappointing. I can't give it a one star cause it's not as bad as other albums I've given one star on this list but man does this suck.

🎧This album is 2 hours long. Much of it is whiny crap. Much of it is just plain boring. Here Is No Why and Bullet With Butterfly Wings are terrific songs. Shame Billy Corgan couldn’t trim the fat, there’s probably a halfway decent record in here.

Meh. Light screamo rock

Interesting riffs and musical ideas, clearly acts as a predecessor of deftones orchestrated, calm style of metal, it’s just way too long and corgans whiny vocals suck.

I'm only forty-two albums in this challenge, and I've already gotten two Smashing Pumpkins albums (supposedly it's the last of them on this list—what a relief!). I'm so tempted to give this one the lowest rating, but at the same time, I do understand why people love this kind of sound; it's 90s alt-rock at its best. ...I just really hate 90s alt-rock, I guess. Anyway, I think I made it clear in my review of Siamese Dream just how much I despise this vocalist. He's got to be one of the worst singers who's ever made it big. He's bearable when he's not shouting and/or whining, but that rarely ever happens, which is why it's really hard for me to enjoy anything by this band. The instrumentation is at times really good, even though it mostly falls into the repetetive category, but that guy ruins every single song he opens his mouth on. As for the compositions themselves—they're just okay, not that groundbreaking at all, which is why I don't understand why this band is being listed right next to the likes of Nirvana when they're really just another generic alt-rock 90s band. I will say though that they must have put a lot of effort into this album, but it's just way too bloated. I could see myself enjoying this a bit more if they cut out all the unnecessary filler. Siamese Dream was similarly exhausting, but at least it was a normal-length album, while this seemed to go on forever. There's supposed to be a concept somewhere in there, but I guess I missed it while forcing myself to finish it. 2 stars (only for the couple of songs that didn't make me want to smash the skip button)

A triple LP, GTFOH. I can't say I enjoyed this, the entire middle is total rubbish and many of the front and end songs aren't polished or good enough to revisit. How did Billy Corgan even become a singer? Are there people who actually like this voice? Everything he touches feels contrived. He's trying too hard to be dark, he's trying to write meaningful lyrics and they fall flat, he's not trying to grate off all your skin with his vocals but he does. I don't like this album because I don't even really like their hits. The title also sucks. My chore is complete.

I HATE DOUBLE ALBUMS!!!!

Less melodic and less melancholic than I recalled. And more smash the world — which given the right mood might have been better

I would've liked this more if it had been released as two separate albums. As a double album the second half dragged after the first.

I didn’t like this but I’m just so glad it wasn’t as I initially thought from the deluxe version 6 hours long

I enjoyed parts of this. the is a couple of songs on here that i would deffo lissen to again ( Tonight tonight and Bullet with butterfly wings) however it was far too long as a final note the the album title is perfect for this.

I’m sure it’s not what these guys were going for but there was some funny shit on this album. Emptiness is loneliness And loneliness is cleanliness And cleanliness is godliness And God is empty just like me Mary had a little lamb Her face was white as snow And everywhere that Mary went I was sure to go Now Mary's got a problem, and Mary's not a stupid girl Mary's got some deep shit, and Mary does not forget It didn’t save the album but it at least got me smiling politely

Two hours and five minutes is too long to listen to Smashing Pumpkins. This record is bloated and beyond the singles there’s not much to write home about. Two stars but one star is for nostalgia.

2h viistettään.. paskaa... Muutama hyvä biiis lopusssa vaivan väärti... Kiitos.. hyväö musiikkia.m heh..

4/10 - The second song seemed decent enough so I was expecting an ok album. But its been pretty bad after that. The songs are so screamy and not enjoyable imo. Nearing the end of the first disc it chilled out a bit. Straight into disk 2 its equally as bad. For instance tales of a scorched earth is absolutely awful. I went back and relistened to the most popular songs and they were better but still not fantastic.

First of all, this was 2 hours because it had 2 disks. Secondly, it sounded very generic and it was a bit meh. There were some interesting guitar solos here and there, but overall not very exciting.

I appreciate the musicality, the arrangements, the guitar playing. But the lead singer’s voice is like nails and a chalkboard to me and makes me want to punch something.

This took fucking 3 days to finish. Bloated as fuck. There's no good reason this is two hours long. I'm giving it a 2 which is such a shame because there's some absolute ripper tracks in here. But those unfortunately represent .01% of the total ruintime. I misspelt runtime there - but my error absolutely adequately describes listening to this full record. It has a ruintime. It strips a very serious amount of time from your day. My time has been ruined. My algorithm is forever going to think I love Smashing Pumpkins, because I've now got a Lord of The Rings length of listening time with them. Fuck.

The instrumental songs were gorgeous. The slow songs were pretty good. The rest was nails on a chalkboard.

Not good, not bad; guess I’m not a SP fan. Track after track of same nasally, whiney, high pitched delivery. Not really original.

they've got their sound together more than on Siamese Dream, in that most of the guitar solos figure out how to make the shred thing more of a noise collage (like all the other grunge bandwagon jumpers had already figured out how to do). there's still at least one extra tacky solo, on the track called "Fuck You (An Ode to No One)" which is a perfect title for what that song is (terrible). they show off a little more range with varied instruments (sounds like a big recording budget more than musicality) and styles. you can hear more that doesn't sound like a thousand layers of the same guitar smashed into paste, but it's heavy on compression & noise gate that makes it fatiguing to listen to. "Bodies" and "Tales of a Scorched Earth" are very nu-metal titles for very nu-metal songs that sound like they wanted to be a little more groovy & cool like sludgey grunge metal. I feel a little bad accusing these Pumpkins of copying the grunge wave so often, because I don't think that's what they were going for on the whole. it's just the rest of their vision isn't interesting enough to comment on. "The Wall for Generation X" sounds exactly right for how much this sucks. I like 1979 a lot. music: hated. (⌐■_■)

Two starts but only for nostalgia for my high school years.

I feel weird giving this a 2 because the album is obviously so good. And there are more than a few songs I really like. But it’s long. Corgan said he aimed the album at people 14 to 24, and I felt that. The album was so long I almost quit this 1001 albums thing because I finally listened to the whole thing after many months of failed attempts. It’s like 2 hours of music.

this is a really mixed bag, where some tracks are really good and others are really bad. also the intro tracks are just piano on a rock/grunge album??? way too long and the vocalist really hates hitting notes.

Long as hell man. Bullet w butterfly wings will intermittently be in my head going forward, but other than that not too notable

Masterful tour de force. Kinda lost me at the growlcore B-sides. But to be honest with myself, I'm just not that excited about Smashing Pumpkins. Respect this album a lot, but for my personal listening enjoyment, it's two stars.

1979 - one of those songs I can never remember.

Not as bad as the last smashing pumpkins I listened to, but I still wanted it to end. Only listened to the first disc. A couple tracks were alright.

Not my favorite. Sounded like loud indie rock. I’d give it 2.5 stars.

Must be a generation thing. I can see why people love this album just does nothing for me.

Definitely not my deal. Aside from Nirvana who I appreciated for their contribution to the evolution many sub genres of rock, the 90s grunge did not sit well with me…likely generational as I need more than just angst.

Voice is whiny and grated on my nerves. Not a classic in my view

yeah sorry not a fan of this one. it's not bad but lord it should be illegal to have an album this long with not that much going on. everything on it is really middle of the road with the exception of a handful of songs that are sort of interesting. but nothing really grabbed me at all. i just found myself bored for two hours. honestly it felt a little like a waste of two hours for me :( sorry :(

Grundgier than I expected. Seemed to lack direction.

Right off the bat I didn't like the lead singer's voice and that's kind of a problem. I agree with one reviewer's apt description that he sounded like Cartman from South Park trying to sing. Then I got annoyed when I discovered that this album was over 2 hours long! If I enjoyed the music that would have been a good thing but I just couldn't get into this.

Tycker bara det är ett fåtal låtar som håller. På tok för jävla lång är den dessutom.

1979 is all I can listen to and enjoy unfortunately.

I like 1979….

I was never a huge fan of The Smashing Pumpkins. It's not a negative thing. It's just that while other people were listening to them, I was listening to somebody else. I didn't get any feels from their stuff. I didn't connect. I can listen to them, but...they're OK.

While this evokes feelings of nostalgia, I can’t really stand Billy Corgan’s singing and honestly a lot of the songs sound the same. Reminds me of my annoying older sister pretending she was an edgy teenager in the 90s. Also, it’s unnecessarily long. Tonight, Tonight rips though.

משעמם

It's been a good album, lasted too long for my liking but some of the songs were good, others not much, maybe I will listen to sum of it in the future but no all the album.

There are a handful of quite good songs on this album, but mixed in with some other stuff that I'm not terribly fond of. This would definitely be an album that, if I were to buy it, would prefer to buy only the songs that I'm actually interested in and skip the rest.

I remember this album was a big deal back when music was a big deal to me. I didn't buy it because it was expensive and I didn't think I'd like many of the songs other than 1979 and Bullet with Butterfly Wings. Tonight, Tonight was on MTV in heavy rotation and it's fine but I knew most of the album was post-grunge, reverb, wall of sound that is grating to listen to. Then you add in Corgan's singing which at times I really enjoy and other times I really don't enjoy. I certainly don't want to hear the song where he is straight up screaming. I think I'll only come back for 2 songs, but those two songs are good enough to save this from getting 1 star only

Whiny McWhinerson

Meh

some solid moments, but ultimately not for me

Eyeshadow

Ahhhh damn me, It did not registered the review I wrote so now I have lost it all. To make the tale short: Thought it was another band, but no, first time listening. And it simply is. I got bored by the middle of the second disk. Some people might like it but it is not for me. 2/5

Sorry! Not for me, I'm afraid! I found it overlong, overblown and I really couldn't get on with Corgan's voice. The 'grungey' bits sounded like they were just trying too hard!

Just not my thing tbh. Lead singer's voice is meh

Not for me

I have always LOVED Siamese Dream. So I bought Mellon Collie the week it was released; but I've never liked it. There is WAY too much mediocrity here to truly appreciate the two or three amazing moments. And those amazing moments were played SO much on the radio in 1995, that listening to the album was just about exploring the mediocrity. It also comes across as a bit artsy (c'mon...Mellon Collie?) - too much of it sounds affected, gimmicky and/or half-baked. Corgan's clearly trying to expand his sound; which is laudable. But the less grungy the backing tracks get, the more they're ruined by their exposure of his voice - revealing his jarring and incongruously-timed transitions between whisper, vocalfry, failed attempts at real singing, and mediocre James Hetfield impressions. Ultimately, I'm frustrated by all of it. If he'd focused on making the best one-third of the songs here great (instead of making the Wall for Gen X - give me a break) he could have made a great album. Bullet With the Butterfly Wings is so great, though, that it earns the album two stars all on its own.

To long, ok to listen some songs in a playlist but couldn't finish the record

Just not my usual vibe. Enjoyed Zero and Love.

Lyrics and majestic power chords are fine but I'm just not a fan because of Corigans grating vocals. Also found the mastering to be very lifeless and "made for car radio"

Meh

This was good to start off with but just would not end any he last 1/4 just sucked. I wanted to rate this highly but just can’t.

2 hours? Triple LP? Come on.

I hate Billy’s voice so much.

Somewhere in a parallel reality is a 5/5 album that sounds exactly like Mellon Collie but sung by someone not Billy Corgan.

Not my type of thing. I liked some of the songs but most of it blended together.

so the first song was so so so lovely and i was excited to listen to this, thinking i would love it so much. but sadly, i just didn’t, i hated most of it. there were like two songs i liked, the first i love, and then that one about being 33 or something which just sounds like journey to the past from anastasia so i will have to look into it. the beginning of the second song is so epic, i love that too, i actually like that song a lot. unfortunately i have to be fair and can’t rate it high for one or two songs… sorry.

Inoffensive.

Eerste twee nummers verrassend muzikaal en prettig, daarna neemt de harde gitaar, drum en het geschreeuw over. Hier en daar wel nummers waar nog muziek in zit.

I always thought they were overrated in the 90s, and this certainly didn't change my mind.

This was alright! Again the vocals didnt do it for me! I dont know. There were some interesting songs but for a lack of ability to express myself - the vibes were off. I hate to give something a 2 but aside from a few songs where there was max indie rock nostalgia I wasn't really feeling it. And to be honest, I couldn't finish it. I still have the tail end of the second side left. Will I finish it? We'll find out!

While I never owned any Smashing Pumpkins albums, this band was a major part of the ambient sound backdrop of my college years. It’s familiar, but I don’t think I’ve ever sat down with this album before. For one thing, it’s too long. But also the grunge scene wasn’t really my thing then and it still isn’t. I can appreciate the album but once is more than enough and I really had to stop myself from giving up on it as it dragged on. Galapogos was a bright spot, 1979 lived up to my memory of it, Stumbleine was a surprise winner, and I’ve always loved the cover art. But a lot of the other songs aren’t memorable and a couple, like Tales of a Scorched Earth and X.Y.U., are ear-splittingly bad. After listening to the first several songs I had settled on a 3, but now that I’m blissfully at the end of the whole album I’m dropping it to a 2 for unnecessary length and whininess. I see that Amazon is offering to play me an EXTENDED version of this album that is almost SIX HOURS LONG and no thank you.

Meh, didn’t finish

A couple bangers on this album but this is simply too much music. Maybe if you're a Smashing Pumpkins stan you would rage for this album but like at least 20 of these songs could be removed and it would be a good album. And I really don't mean to be judgmental because I really do like some of these songs but 2 hours is a long time to listen to Billy Corgan's voice. It's the first and hopefully only DNF for me.

Meh, too long

Dude singing sounds like Cartman but like two songs where good sorry this is a shitty review I’m on a time crunch

I liked it, more variety than I knew they had I will be rating with 1 = wouldnt be mad to listen again 3= would actively choose to listen again 5 = have saved it i think this gets a two?

Yllättävän hyvä lenkkialbumi, tosin kahden tunnin kesto oli aika päätähuimaava. Kuuntelin albumin osissa, mutta silti vähän ähky. Tuntui puuttuvan kokonaan ”punainen lanka”

5/10 not wild about it.

48/100

Some good songs, but a lot of average junk, and it felt like it would never end.

Too much filler

SOs -- Tonight, Tonight - 1979 - Bullet With Butterfly Wings

Probably not a bad album in itself, but this was a turning point in the Smashing Pumpkins sound to go from an amazing alternative and independant rock style to a very commercial one that even radio stations would play. Far less original, definitely not as great as they used to sound.

Not that smashing. Best track is the opener before any vocals. A generous 2.

Eh .........

This isn't my favorite, and the album taking about 7 years to finish didn't help. Definitely thought I'd enjoy it more.

2Hrs is a really long album. There are definitely songs I enjoyed but as a whole it felt like it really dragged on.

Album had glimmers of pleasantry amidst fields of cacophony

Much like Puddle of Mudd, the only good songs on this album were the ones that received airplay. Dismal, whiny, and self-absorbed pablum.

Fine, like all albums of this length I think that there is a lack of focus that my personal favourites have

Tonight Tonight might be a good song if someone else was singing, but I really dislike Billy Corgan's voice. 28 songs of this I am supposed to listen to! Does it really need to be over 2 hours long? I'll cut you a deal, Billy; half the songs. First 13 + 1979 seeing as that was a hit. This is a 3 musically. Taking a half point off for the unnecessary length, and half off for Corgan's god-awful voice.

Not a fan

Like drowning in a nasal cloying mist for 2 hours with 3 or 4 gulps of good clean air.

So, yeah. A bit indulgent. Not sure if I'd consider a 28 track record with four hits to be a great accomplishment. Imagine if it had been trimmed down to a dozen tracks... including some of the more interesting transitions and musical parts, plus the four hits. Now that would be a record! I must also admit that I don't like the politics of the front man at all either. Art is difficult to separate from the artist. Some of the tunes blend together, which is to be expected with 28 tracks. My overall impression is indulgent, too many tracks that are filler...

I just can’t take that voice.

I have heard of the Pumpkins, but never really heard their music. A couple of great tracks to start this album, but then it deteriorated into i a bit of a mess. The nasly vocals didnt help, bur i found it a hard listen

mid

Wanted to like this but not for me

Loved this band before they did this - miserable droney shite

to stjerner

Too long

Nope. Don't like the music, too hardrock with unoriginal guitar noise . Mostly i Hate the singers voice

Would have been 3 stars but this was absolutely unacceptably long

Lost interest about halfway through; how is a two hour runtime justified when there's no clear throughline?

Never really got this band

Not as great as a whole. Some real bangers here though.

This thing was 2hrs but it felt like way longer, just a completely bloated album. Some interesting instrumentals throughout. Didn't enjoy this at all.

Personal Enjoyability (out of 40): 13 Consistency of Quality (out of 25): 11 Keeps Interest (out of 25): 6 Album Flow (out of 10): 8 Overall 38/100 ★★ Quick Review: Disappointed with this album. Loved Siamese Dream growing up but never gave this album a chance up until now. Unfortunately this album majorly suffers from the double album curse of the quality being spread too thinly. Far too much filler and is only saved by the singles.

If there ever was an album hindered by its length, this is possibilty it. My feelings would not be near as scathing if it was half the length, even if that half contained only my least favourite songs. What I got was okay, but oh it was so much mediocrity. So prevalent. So droning. The songs became a mesh that just collided into a slurry and the only thing that my brain can process is that one "meme lyric" about being a rat in a cage. I sat on this finished album for a good hour, digesting it, wondering if the mere behemoth of its length alone would warrant such a low rating. I do not know if I'm being too kind or too grumpy with my appraisal.

Muy lento para mi estilo

A couple of songs I liked

Not my sound for leaning too heavily into Metal, but of the 28 tracks, Standouts are Tonight, Tonight, Zero, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, 1979, Thru The Eyes of Ruby, and Stumbleine.

Didn't like too much of it. There are some good songs, but I mean some shit is gonna stick from 28 fucking songs. Fuck off with this 2 hours bullshit

I don't even know how to rate this. That Tonight, Tonight's voice is totally unlistenable, heavier tracks are pretty average, and then calmer songs are somewhat pleasant, but it may be because I've heard them hundreds of times in toks. I was not keeping track of how many songs are in each category, so I'll just assume most of them weren't good

DESPITE ALL HIS RAGE I STILL KEEP MY GIMP IN A CAGE

Hvað á maður að gera hér? Margt óþolandi við rödd Corgans og pólitík; þetta var ekki minn tebolli í gamla daga; mikið af lögunum renna saman í eitt; og þetta er alltof langt. En, inn á milli eru fín lög og dæmigerð fyrir sinn tíma. - Kannski ef ég hlustaði oftar...

I never liked this. This listen did not change my mind. My current standard for ratings is that if it is better than Bongo Rock it gets three stars. I concede here in the notes that this album is, but I’m rating it two stars anyway. They’re lucky they aren’t getting one star for not really being better than my only one star rating, Afghan Wigs.

First and last impressions: whiny. Really, really whiny. The vocals are tough to get through, and though the instrumentals are good, it's not enough to save the droning that goes on.

Bo-ring

No matter how many times I’ve tried, I just can’t get through this album. I said this when we listened to Siamese Dream, but I don’t care for this record. I think all the success of that previous record—which is so much more immediate, raw, and urgent than anything here—went straight to Mr. Corgan’s noggin. Sure, there are some great pop songs. But I find the string arrangements cheesy, Billy’s sneering croon far too sharp and bare, and the thematic content annoyingly twee. Maybe I’ve just heard these songs on KROQ too much in my 30 years. But still, having liked what the Pumpkins turned in with Siamese Dream, I find the mainstream, grunge-pop, alt-important sound of Mellon Collie to be a major misdirection. And I also find no reason why this should be a triple album. It’s far too long. Many songs here that should have been B-sides. The 6-hour reissue is just ridiculous. It makes me like the album even less. As does the fact that the vinyl version of the album has an entirely different track order. I really only like the straight up pop numbers. The rest is just not good. I’m borderline 1/5 but will bump one point basically just for “1979,” which I think this an important cut in the history of indie/alt rock and is not only listenable, but enjoyable too, no matter how many times I’ve heard it.

Impossible album. Really difficult to get my head around. It's long, so -1 star for its absurdity. It's monotonous. It feels like one long dream sequence, almost trancelike. I LOVED some of the songs, they were so precious, and for a few minutes there I felt like I really got what they were going for. But it's just way too gratuitous for me to want to return that much, 2/5

17th April 2023 Listened during the day while working from home after Sav’s stag. Seb staying an extra night after the weekend. Sequence and the Wheel. Not a great listen when you’re riddled with post stag and work anxiety. 2.5 if I could.

Tea Deus and the Finite Patience

their style is pretty neat but this mans voice is super annoying and the album has no reason to last for two whole hours

Föööör långt, massa filler sånger kändes de som , som int sku ha behövt vara med, flera vangers ändå

Det här albumet skulle ha sina sidor om man inte behövde höra på BC:s genuint vidriga sångröst och mediokra lyrics två timmar i sträck, men även utan honom skulle det vara för långt och Sakna Funktion... 1979 är en helt bra pop låt dokk

It’s just as bloated as I remember the record.

TWO chuffing hours? No thanks Billy, mate. I only knew the tracks 1979 and Tonight before listening to the album in full. Both are pleasant and plod along in a nice sensitive pop kinda way. The rest of the album was a racket. I bailed after track 9. What US alt artists lack in humour they certainly make up for in stodge.

I haven’t been super into these guys but I feel a little more positive to em after this it’s just not my style tho

Yikes, 2 full hours. It contains a few good tunes, but there are a lot that seem more like the lead singer needs to stop smoking before he loses his voice.

This would have been a solid middle of the road album, if a bit CW teen drama background music-y, but there was no reason this should have been a 28 song album and over two hours long. Instead it became extremely boring and one-note and I resented it's length. Cool album title though!

Ugh, I just cant stand Billy Corgan for more than 1 song in a row. 2 hours of him singing was an extremely painful experience. I do like the instrumental but his voice just ruins it.

не мои ребята - ни жанр, ни вокал. не могу вспомнить какие-то треки которые в принципе из творчества нравились

2 часа... вы там что, совсем ебанулись? Жанр определён как гранж. Но на контрасте с Ten я вообще не понимаю, как это можно слушать... Меня кажется в этом альбоме бесит почти всё: начиная от его, как мне кажется, неоправданной длины, заканчивая странным использованием тремоло в нескольких песнях. Причём, я понимаю, если бы альбом был целиком таким "тяжёлым" по звуку, но нет. Каким-то образом там затесались и акустические композиции (Take me Down, Stumblein или Farewell and Goodnight, например), как ни странно - неплохие. А ещё как-то голос вокалиста - ну прям совсем меее... Когда он срывается в хрип, это становится слушать просто невозможно, абсолютно. Я не могу сказать, что я как-то с отвращением отношусь к тяжёлой музыке; мне, допустим, Black Sabbath нравятся. Но The Smashing Pumpkin вообще не произвели на меня впечатление группы, которую я хоть раз ещё послушаю. Этот альбом - точно. 2/5 за неплохие акустические треки. Забавно кстати, что самый прослушиваемый трек (1979) звучит вообще не так, как бОльшая масса песен с альбома, наоборот, он вообще больше на поп-рок шлягер похож. За него тоже можно поставить плюсик и не опускать оценку до 1. P.S. Посмотрел другие отзывы об альбоме, там оказывается, ещё и с текстами есть большие проблемы...)

А я даже хз что написать. Середина альбома хорошая, в начале вообще 1 хотел ставить. Не мое

There are some bangers on here but you know the rules…way too much Smashing Pumpkins here for this reviewer

Was on my list to relisten for a while. I'm giving it two stars because it is very front loaded and then just seems to drag on for an extra hour. 1 hour is very solid though.

I liked two songs on the this. The rest meh.

I said for the other Smashing Pumpkins album that it was the blandest of the bland. This was a little more interesting but fucking christ did this need to be 2 hours long? If you're going to release a 2 hour every song better be a fucking banger and worth it. Absolutely not here. It's 80 minutes too long and someone needed to tell Corgan to cut shit out. If you made it a 40-50 minute album I'd be happier but given how long it is I dislike it a lot. I hate long albums, especially albums with tons of filler, which this album has in spades. Seriously it feels like every other song was a B-side or something. Because of that I have to rate it lower.

too long

:(

I really enjoyed the first couple of tracks...then it just turned into an unrewarding task to listen to the end. An isolated bright spot here or there, but otherwise mostly uninteresting to me. I recall being intrigued by the sounds of the singles released from this album, but I would not have enjoyed the entire album then and still don't

Not my jam, I think the vocals are just too annoying and the songwriting is quite cringe.

Innostuin tästä albumista vähän ekan kappaleen perusteella, kun se sai odottamaan jotain muuta, mitä oon aiemmin kuullut The Smashing Pumpkinsilta. Kuitenkin tosi monen kappaleen kohdalla oli taas vahvasti sellanen tunne, että mielummin vaan skippaisin seuraavaan. Varmaan tähän pätee vähän sama kuin Pearl Jamiin, että teoriassa tykätä näistä kappaleista enemmänkin, mutta lauluääni häiritsee jostain syystä liikaa. Kun arvostelin aiemmin toisen The Smashing Pumpkinsin levyn (Siamese Dream), annoin sille kolmosen. En tiedä, tykkäänkö tästä periaatteessa yhtään sen enemmän tai vähemmän, mutta jo liialliselta tuntuvan pituuden takia päädyin vaan kahteen tähteen. Kuuntelin muutenkin vaan ne kappaleet, jotka oli julkaistu alkuperäisellä levyllä, enkä kokonaista noin kuuden tunnin versiota, joka oli Spotifyssa. Kappaleita, joista tykkäsin edes vähän enemmän: Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness, Jellybelly, Cupid De Locke, Galapagos, 1979

I think I could really get into this band...if they had a different singer. As it is, I gave up half way through the 2 hour ordeal.

Oof, this one was hard work, and let me tell you a round-about story as to why this is the album where the Pumpkins lost me... In 1991, I was working at Scratches Records, and I did the import ordering. One day, I was on the phone to Dogmeat Dave at Shock Distribution, and he said “Mate, I’ve a got a record that I think you would really dig”. I agreed to take a copy, and the Pumpkins first album “Gish” turned up. And I put it out for sale, and never listened to it. And it sat there for (at least) three months without anyone even looking at it. So I thought “well, I should at least listen to this thing”, and chucked it on the turntable. By the end of the first song I was hooked. It was heavy and fuzzy and trippy and I really dug it. So I bought that copy and took it home. And for the next six months I played it to everyone I could, and evangelised for the album. I played it a lot. But nobody could get a copy, because it wasn’t locally released yet, and the record company cracked down on imports because they were going to get around to releasing it locally, one day, perhaps. So, for a while, it was like a hidden treasure that I could share. Eventually in June 1992, over a year after its initial international release, it was finally released locally and it took off like a rocket. Siamese Dream was even bigger. I liked the Siamese Dream album too, although the rawness of Gish was always my fave. (Thanks to Andy Winter, who bought me the coloured vinyl LP of Siamese Dream for my birthday). The Pumpkins were huge. I eventually saw them at the Big Day Out and Selina’s in January 1994, by which time they were mostly playing the Siamese Dream album, but they rocked pretty hard live. So, then in 1996 they released this record. Now, I loved this band. I was all primed to love this record. I had some misgivings when I read this article in Rolling Stone prior to release (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/smashing-pumpkins-disillusionment-obsession-confusion-satisfaction-88432/). It starts with Billy Corgan comping vocal tracks out of multiple takes and spending days mixing tracks. And, after all that effort, the vocals _still_ came out as insufferable whining. He always had a tendency towards nasal whining, but when I read that this was _deliberately_ edited best of from multiple takes, I was a bit stunned. And it is such melodramatic self-indulgence. I mean, this thing runs two hours (except in the deluxe CD set, which runs six hours! Six. Whole. Hours.). It was too much. I couldn’t take it. Corgan’s voice wears, particularly on the more ‘sensitive’ numbers where a better singer could have really made a difference. It’s not as psychedelic as previous records. I know lots of people say it is their masterpiece, and not as uniform as previous records, but it is sooooo looooong. And I get really bored. Does the processing and editing reduce the energy of the band (especially Chamberlain’s drumming)? I don’t feel like the guitar solos have the same fire that they did on earlier records (an artefact of Corgan sharing the duties with James Iha?) Is there a really great 40 minute album in there? Undoubtedly. Personally, I would probably pull out the heaviest songs (Bullet with Butterfly Wings, Jelly Belly, Zero, Where Boys Fear to Tread, Scorched Earth, etc) for a full-on metal record. But, if you liked the ballads, there is probably a pretty good album there (although they are not so much to my taste). But I cannot get over the pompous humourlessness of this record, which was confirmed by the interview in that Rolling Stone article. I bought this when it came out, and listened to it all the way through maybe twice. I never wanted to listen to any new music by the Pumpkins ever again after that. And I listened to it again today. And my feeling hasn’t changed; this record is a massive slog to get through, leavened with occasional highlights like “1979”.

The cliche is always that double albums would make better single albums. Well this would make a reasonable EP. It doesn't help that I find Billy Corgan's voice truly grating but many of the songs are awful grunge dirges. Some of the gentler songs are better but overall this is a long long long mess. Best song: Tonight Tonight.

Couple of good tracks but why is this so bloody long

Boring

I despise his vocals. The rest of the band is great and pushes this rating from a 1 to a 2.

I brought three albums when I was trying to get into "real" music. Rage against the machine self titled, blink 182 take off your pants and jacket and this. I really struggled to listen to it back then and nothing has changed. His voice whines on, its far too long, some occasional tolerable stuff but over all just not for me

No fair judgement as his way of singing prevents me from listening objectively to the music

It started good… until he starting singing

The worst of Smashing Pumpkins. Overreaching, overdramatic, overproduced. Gish and Siamese Dream maybe set expectations too high for me, but this double album was just twice the let down. Yes, there are a couple redeeming songs, but not enough to save the collection.

nah

Dobbeltalbum, en blanding af rock og metal, til tider udmærket, men for langt

Coming in pretty blind. Heard a few songs at bars and the like but never got round to listening to them despite it being the seminal album of many of my university friends. Album starts well enough with an instrumental but I have always found the vocals a little off putting. The album is long. Very very long. It's filled with lighter numbers but it's generally pretty heavy. The riffs very in quality. There is a good song or bit here and there but I found it largely a total drag.

there's some good tracks on here, but whoever thought making it 2 hours long was a good idea...

see i absolutely love 1979 but all the others were incomparable in a bad way the scorched earth song made me want to stick needles in my ears and never be able to hear again the first two songs gave me some hope but it immediately dropped for the next two hours.

I was a big fan of Gish and Siamese Daydream but when this came out I never liked it...time for a revisit to figure out why or how wrong I was... Eh. Bloated. I do love the beginning... gentle piano medley into "Tonight, Tonight" but there's something that was lost for me in this album and never quite sure what. Billy Corgan's vocals were never smooth, obviously, but immediately I find them more abrasive than ever. I'll have to compare but I wonder if more effort was made to fix him dry and clear on these songs. Don't like. It's just too much. What I loved about the band's first 2 albums was the dreamy and mysterious sonic landscape they created...even in their heavier songs. Many of these - while rarely bad - just don't hit that same way. It ends up as a long aural assault that I still can't connect with. There are definitely moments and it never doesn't sound like the Pumpkins. And of course there was density on the first two albums but I always felt was countered with more dynamics and *space* - (e.g Hummer from S.D.) Also 2 hours come on. Should have at least Use Your Illusion'd it. Halfway between 2 and 3 and the answer to "will I voluntarily listen to this again?" gives it the tiebreaker. 5/10 2 stars

A generic representative of the kind of generic rock music that flows out of the USA, a kind that is so generic I fail to be able to latch myself to it.

Sone definite bangers but the length lost the album some points. Many songs spunded kinda samey

Best Song: Jellybelly. Tipped over into heavier territory, which I wished they would do more often. Worst Song: Bullet with Butterfly Wings. Despite all its plays, the nasal voice will still just annoy me for days. Overall: Something about this album, and Billy Corgan specifically, just annoys me. The egotism and lack of self-awareness it must have taken for Corgan to write such a wandering double album, forcing us to listen to him whine out "Love is Suicide" over and over and over.

Yeah it's just really not my type of music. Saying that, there are some really nice backing instrumentals through out, and I did like a few songs, but when there's 28 songs that's not enough. It's really the vocal style that I have the biggest problem with but that comes with the territory. Not a bad album but really not for me.

Got through disc one. Real range of styles but wasn't enjoying enough to continue. The vocals were grating. Didn't add.

What a slog. The Smashing Pumpkins barely have enough material for one song, let alone a 2-hour plus album.

This is the Smashing Pumpkins album I'm most familiar with. Not that I've ever owned it, but it was on the radio, MTV, etc. To be honest my friends and I used to mock this one a bit because of lines like "despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage" and Billy Corgan's melodramatic and whiny vocals. Only ever heard the singles before, but listening to it as an album it feels bloated and oddly paced. The first song on the album seems to be entirely ornamental and placed there in an effort to dress up this collection of songs with something that seems more serious and higher minded, posing as a concept album - which I absolutely do not think this is. The comparisons to "The Wall" are completely daft. It's not the size that counts. Not that I would enjoy it that much more but I wish they would have shown a little more discretion in their track selections. I couldn't make it all the way through. Honestly I'm sort of baffled that this was as big as it was.

2/5

It goes on a bit…

not my vibe and i'm not mad about it

I'm familiar with this album. All it reminds me of is horribly cringey moments in my teenage years. I think by today's standard's it's way too cliche but I have a weird appreciation for it where I can see past that because there was a time where this album had a much stronger effect on me. But I was never really a Pumpkins fan anyway. It's a genuine classic I don't deny the brilliance of it, but Billy Corgan is a chode that takes himself way too seriously and that's all hear in his music anymore

It was heavier than I thought it was going to be. Really wasn't in the mood for it.

I just get annoyed by his voice

One of those albums I just couldn't get in to.

So depending on which version of this "album" you choose to listen to, it will either be 2 discs or 5. This is completely unnecessary even at 2 discs. The music is not good enough to warrant such a tactic. There are some very good and memorable songs, but they are hidden amongst bad songs on the "album" that is over two hours long. I am not smiling politely....that's a Simpson's reference.

I have never understood the lore of this album. There's several great and even iconic songs, outnumbered only by a lot of unnecessary songs. It's a chore to get through the whole album in one listen.

Didn’t listen

🎤🎸🥁

Billy Corgan's voice is unpleasant to my ears. I probably would have enjoyed this album a lot more with a different singer.

Not a huge fan but I appreciate it

When the song composition is at its sparsest, both in sound and time, this album is engaging and lives up to its admittedly alluring title. However, the album is often too full and too long for its own good (and the good of its listener). This is probably best explained by the transition from “Tonight, Tonight” (a full, well-balanced power ballad) to “Jellybelly” (a confusing, thrashing, grating, nasally (oh so very, very nasally) song whose lyrics are drowned by the fuzzily mixed guitars and frantic drumming). This transition encapsulates my mixed feelings about this album; I love the “Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness” and “Tonight, Tonight”, I hate “Jellybelly” and “Zero”. If “Jellybelly” is too loud and grating, “Zero” is just quiet enough for me to hear Corgan’s truly awful lyrics (“Emptiness is loneliness/And loneliness is cleanliness/And cleanliness is godliness/And God is empty just like me” sounds like the scribblings of some teenager whose angst has driven him away from his childhood religion; it is genuinely painful to listen to). And that seems to be the story of this two hour long album. For the most part, the music is fuzzy, grating, and far too long (the songs average more than 5 minutes). When I can actually make out Corgan’s lyrics through the screaming guitars and the nasal inflection, I feel like I am listening to poetry he wrote when he was a teenager. However, the album is punctuated by truly beautiful compositions (“Tonight, Tonight”; “To Forgive”; “Cupid de Locke”; “Porcelina of the Vast Oceans”; “Take Me Down”; “1979”; “Thru the Eyes of Ruby”; “Beautiful”; “Lily (My One and Only)”). Unfortunately, for the most part these beautiful songs are exhausting to listen to because they are sandwiched between other exorbitantly long songs. “Porcelina of the Vast Oceans” sums this up perfectly. It is the longest song on the album, but when I listen to it without all the build up of the previous 12 tracks, I don’t feel its length in the least. However, put it back in the context of the album and it becomes laborious to get through. Further, not all of the softer ballads are winners. “By Starlight” stands out as a song of soft instrumentation punctuated by the infantile lyricism. This is an album that needed to be cut in half. It feels like Smashing Pumpkins included every song they finished in the recording studio because they couldn’t decide which they should cut. The connecting theme seems to be Corgan’s lyrics, which are often corny, superficial, and painful to anyone who has grown up beyond their teenage years. Frankly, it is a chore to listen to the whole thing. This is an album whose rare, far-reaching heights are overshadowed by the far more consistent lows of Corgan’s lyricism and voice, the grating instrumentals, and the exhausting length. 3/10.

Sorry, not my thing and not listening to 4 albums of it!

Too much flannel. Was a chore.

Completely over indulgent. Few good tracks. Got bored as fuck.

Got some good ones

It would’ve been a three had it not been 2 hours of music I didn’t really enjoy that much

I don't even really know, just too god damn long. A 6 CD album shouldn't be on here. In the past I've liked 1-2 smashing pumps songs, but just found all of it a bit whiney american rock shiz

boah, wie lang kann ein album sein

well, that was a bit of a slog. nothing on this entire album really grabbed my attention, which is a bit of a surprise, considering i generally liked their earlier work.

It is nit a bad album but it is not to my likings.

Seemed a little slow for my tastes.

Liian pitkä albumi

Too tocky

It started okay, but I wasn't really grabbed by it to be honest.

mediocre SP album. There's a lot of filler on here and it would've benefited from being a single disc release. the good songs are fucking GOOD though.

muy largo

Admittedly, this album had some really good moments, especially in the first half. Unfortunately I can't get past the grating vocals, the mix that makes me feel like I'm not hearing it right due to some non-existent hearing loss (especially with the vocals), and most of all, I can't get past being made to listen to two hours of this, even if the songs are not bad by themselves.

My first DNF. I liked the first few songs but there’s just not much here. Megalomaniacal to make a record this long when you have so little to say. Lost me at “Bodies.”

Better then other ones but not my fav

i was first introduced to the pumpkins through my chemical romance, and the only two songs i've ever liked were "bullet with butterfly wings" and "daphne's descent". currently, i do not enjoy neither my chemical romance nor the pumpkins. also, corgan is a pretentious weirdo and i can't stand him.

Not a fan at all of Billie Corgan's voice or massive ego.

Fuck off

May Billy Corgan be stricken with weeping facial and anal boils. I bet he already is. Such a piece of shit this guy. Narcissist and overrated.

A very pretty cover & clever title but, unfortunately, just can’t stand Billy Corgan’s voice.

At 2hrs long, this double album was its own particular kind of hell. There were some brief moments where I didn’t actively find myself hating every moment, but these weren’t enough to make me score this any higher.

This album could have been a great maxi single or EP at best. A double album was totally unnecessary. Everyone knows the best Pumpkins album is Gish and even that has too many songs

Grunge is one of the worst genres of all time, even if it is enjoying a mystifying resurgence at present. Smashing Pumpkins were among the worst chancers thrown up during it. This album is another one for the 1001 albums to avoid before you die list.

There are a few songs that are okayish, such as Love, Zero, but overall the album is way too long. Moreover, almost every time a good part comes up, it gets absolutely ruined by the vocals. I don't think I'll be coming back to this album.

not great for me

always heard of this band but never listened. when i saw the comments about the lead singer's voice being grating i thought it was an exaggeration but they were immediately proven right. the production isn't bad. it's quite my taste at times. but the vocals are SO awful that i couldn't even focus on it. he sings like when you're at karaoke and you're not very good at singing, so you do silly voices to hide your embarrassment and make all of your friends laugh instead. at least it kept the album from being completely boring because i spent half of it with my face twisted in a grimace (total lie) (i was unbearably bored) (it sapped my energy like a parasite) fave track: 1979

I cannot stand the Smashing Pumpkins.

My first DNF. There were a few songs that were alright, but honestly, I think I wanted to like them more than I actually did. The style of vocals is really not my thing, either.

fuckin bad! 1!!!

This has to be a nostalgia album for those in the 90's. I can see the ideas and what the Pumpkins are tryna do but honestly, much better bands have executed them better. Also sounds like the band is trying, but ultimately failing, to save songs from Bill Corgan himself. Consider this Pumpkin, smashed.

did not finish. billy corgans voice.

Absolutely hated that rebellious rock for goody-two-shoes

1.5

Mid

favs: tonight, tonight bullet with butterfly wings galapogos 1979 thru the eyes of ruby we only come out at night beautiful farewell and goodnight rating 1.5/5

Bad almbum

Just not me thing.

I think this wins the award for the most cringey album title on the list so far. In fact, the whole vibe of the cover just stinks of insufferable wankery. The first two tracks are also a terrible opening to an album. If I had been a fan of Siamese Dream and then rushed out to buy this, I'd be severely disappointed. I can't help but think that this whole album is an example of a band being destroyed by their previous success. It seems self indulgent and pretentious, where 'Siamese Dream' felt carefree and expressive. There were a couple of moments of solid grunge/rock music to remind you of their former excellence. I thought 'Love' was good track and there are a couple of decent singles hiding amongst the chaff. The rest of it was bland music with an awful squeaker massaging his ego over the top. For two hours... Give me a break.

Final Smashing Pumpkins already, huh? Barely any time has passed since my last album of theirs. I listened to Siamese Dream 18 albums ago, which I didn't like all that much. Perhaps a one-star rating was a little harsh, but I really wasn't feeling the grungy vocals and hour runtime. I'm keen to listen to this final release from them. The name and artwork for this album are both pretty fantastic, especially when paired together. I've always had a passing respect for this album because of that, even if I've never felt compelled to check it out on my own. Feels surreal to know that my lack of familiarity with this album ends today. Here goes. Two hours. Twenty-eight tracks. Two hours. Twenty-eight tracks. Two hours. Twenty-eight fffffffuuuuuucking tracks. It seems The Smashing Pumpkins are an act that I'm fated to dislike despite my best efforts. I value conciseness for obvious reasons and I don't like albums with a ton of songs jammed onto them since I find that to be mentally exhausting. My opinion of this album is, sadly, predictable. However, the listening experience was a bit of a roller coaster. The nice, piano-centric, string-heavy intro immediately raised my expectations and got me excited for what was to come, only to be immediately plunged into the same grungy hell I remembered from their previous album. That being said, "Tonight, Tonight" was a serviceable track. I could dig the 90s, Midwest emo sound along with some of the nicer musical embellishments. Most of what followed sucked complete dick, however. While I appreciate the fact that you can be a rock star without necessarily being a stand-out vocalist, there is a limit to how far such a consideration can extended. Corgan actively and aggressively shits the bed on nearly every song where he features. I criticised Siamese Dream for having bad vocals, but these are on a completely different level. They're a lot nasally-ier than I remember them being which, when paired with the fact that Corgan is constantly screaming, that his performance lacks any charisma and that his vocals are occasionally butchered by some shitty, abrasive lo-fi filter makes for a uniquely hostile listening experience. He sounds like Eminem does on "Fack". The actual music isn't much better. While there are a handful of moments which feature decent instrumentation and interesting effects, these are exceedingly rare. The guitars have a slightly blown-out sound which undermines whatever depth they could otherwise have. I have a pretty strong dislike of this garage rock sound and I'm generally ambivalent to grunge, though I can admit that their grunge styling is more evolved when compared to their previous album. Everything sucking complete dick comes to a brief halt near the end of the first disc. The music slows down. The grunge and butt rock influence lifts, and Corgan stops blowing his lungs out for a second. The result is some nice, delicate, intricate music from "Cupid De Locke" to the end of disc one. "Porcelina of the Vast Oceans" is one of my favourite songs on the album despite the long runtime. The muted, atmospheric guitars were quite good. The leading riffs weren't half bad, either and Corgan is actually singing and harmonising for a change. "Take Me Down" is a good closer. The echoey ambience, restful guitar and meditative effects are quite nice. Just copy and paste my diatribe from two paragraphs ago here for disc two, as the album returns to being bad, overblown, grungy butt rock music. The album also winds down in a similar way to that of the first disc, but by that point I had more or less checked out from this album. Cut your shit down. Good Lord. I've heard "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" before. Not the actual song, mind you. I've just seen the chorus being posted around on the Internet before. I had always thought it was a Rage Against the Machine lyric, so it came as a surprise to encounter it here. It's an okay song, but not my speed. Those vocals are weak as usual, though the songwriting is admittedly decent. I could somewhat dig the rough, raw guitars, too. Heard "1979" before, too. Those guitars are pretty golden. I like the little bits of guitar reverb which disturb the flow for a second, and the deep, bassy guitar that occasionally kicks in is pretty sweet too. The vocals are, once again, nice now that Corgan isn't screaming his fucking throat out. Wow. A nice little reprieve from the latter half of this album. I feel like a changed man. Thank you, music. I can take the night off from book-skimming, thankfully. I know this album is an important and enduring classic, so I don't need to review the book entry in my usual Poindexter ways. I cosign this inclusion.

Where do i even begin? Billy Corgan is an awful singer who sounds like he plugs his nose while singing. Sometimes he also screams the songs, which is just awful. Furthermore, this album is 2 hours long, which takes something from bad to awful. Smashing Pumpkins are nowhere near good enough to warrant a 2 hour long, 28 song album. Just an atrocious and painful listen.

A little known fact was the us government was planning to use this album as part of the Waco siege until they discovered David Koresh was a fan.

A month in to this project, and I've reached the first album I couldn't finish. A couple of good songs, but they weren't kidding when they called it infinite.

DNL

90's rock? No thanks. Might be almost listenable if it were sung by a different voice, but it's not so....

UGH. I just can't stand Billy Corgan. I was planning on giving this a 2, but found myself so annoyed with this album and its length, that it's getting a 1.

Not really what I was hoping for. I fell in love with the cover but I am not familiar with the band since before and I think that I had higher expectations because of that. I enjoyed some of the slower songs and the intro but the other song are not really my thing. But Cupid the Locke and some songs like that one was good.

Não gosto desse tipo de Grunge, e todas as músicas parecem a mesma coisa.

3/10

Álbum duplo é sacanagem. E ainda mais de uma banda de pop-punk-rock, como eu gosto de dizer. Dito isto, não ouvi o álbum todo, mas ouvi o que eu julgo ser suficiente pra avaliar. Assim como qualquer banda desse estilo, é medíocre. Difícil eleger a melhor e a pior, então fica nessas mesmo. Melhor do álbum: "Zero". Pior do álbum: "Tonight, Tonight".

3/10

I haven’t finished the full thing but my god I do not care for this. They are clearly good at what they do but The Smashing Pumpkins are not for me.

Too long

One big sad blagh.... Truly, not my cup of tea. Some of the melodies were interesting, but overall it kinda sounded like some grunge reject album. I was never a fan, but after listening carefully to the album I can definitely say why this band isn't for me. And it's a double album?! Seriously, probably a blessing to fans, but a torture to others...

I just never liked them ot thought they were good. Time hasn’t been an improvement on my opinion.

Second time this band has come up in short succession. Where has variety gone. Load of American nonsense, as usual from America. 2 hours of this shit, you must be joking.

And I’m mad about it.

I promise I’ve been through the whole thing before and I swear I tried again. I just couldn’t make it. This is where Corgan and I parted ways. Tbh we’d only previously crossed paths vaguely anyway; I’d put up with Siamese Dream despite a lot of stuff I struggled with because at least there were a fair few proper tunes that kept me engaged. On this however the tunes seemed to have evaporated and everything that bothered me before became the driving force…Relentlessly…For 2 hours! The voice, the production, the tunelessness, the pretentiousness, the seemingly endless supply of self-importance. I refuse to listen to it all again. This review is my last word on the subject forever. And my last words of this review are “the dictionary definition of unchecked ego”

No.

I'm surprised music this bad exists

Sounds like a concept album, but boring.

1 star is harsh but this has zero redeeming qualities. Annoying singers are the worst - Two hours... oh boy - Instrumentals are nice but one of the singers is annoying. - Random metal song. Eclectic I guess - Next song is weird whiny rock - Paused on "Here is No Why" - just couldn't listen anymore - Resumed: It's only worse than I thought! Please take me out of my misery. 1 star is harsh but this has zero redeeming qualities

I really like the album art. However, I think there’s a reason why most albums aren’t two hours long. It would’ve been grating anyways, but I dropped a star due to the runtime

Not for me

No muy interesado

Admittedly jumped around through this because sorry but I wasn’t going to spend over 2 hours on one album that all kind of sounds the same to me and that sound being the 90s alt thing I never enjoy. And his voice is whiny to me. There is some nice melodic stuff at points though. (1.5 stars)

Bald fuck Billy Corgan

So you're telling me that you take 2+ hours out of your days to listen to this regularly, and call it great? I dunno man.

If you're going to make a two-hour album, consider making some of the music good.

My father has always hated the smashing pumpkins, but before now I had never listened to them. One positive thing I can say about this album is that it has made me understand my father more. 1/10 because why would you ever do this to yourself 26/08/25

Not for me

cupid de locke the only song i like. idgi this is too boy for me

No. Too long.

Nothing about The Smashing Pumpkins has ever been for me. The garishness, the whiny nonsense and self importance of it all leaves me feeling nauseous at the best of times. Minus the vocals, I can get with a few tracks here in an instrumental sense, but two hours of this was an experience that never bears repeating.

I really dislike the voice of Billy Corgan

This album and band suck ass. Absolutely -10/10 for album 1.

Achei uma bosta a voz dele Mas a open track é mto boa

I do not like this album and especially the “hit” songs

I didn't realize this was a double CD before popping it on, and then after listening to it felt it carried on for twice as long as it needed to. The concept was lost on me. The songs didn't seem to tell any story, and as others have said, Billy Corgan rhythmically shouts and moans into the mic rather than singing. The hits are hits because they're catchy, but they're far too seldom for a release of this length. I'm glad I didn't buy this one when it was released, because I had disposable income back then. Nope, sorry. 1/5

Main vocals are too torchuring to comprehend anything else about this.

Trim off about 75% of this and I might have been able to get through it in less than ten sittings. Absolute pants.

Listened only halfway.

hmm kiinnostava... uskomattoman paska mutta jollain tasolla myös hyvä ja kuunneltavaa... aivan liian vitun pitkä ehdottomasti. It is quite a feat to have an album this long that somehow doesn't feel bloated. Excellent kickass songs, and even better ballads. BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHA.. alkuun baha että huomioidaan kuinka kova ääninen porvari hulvaton hahatus.. tuplasin vuokrat.. triplasin sähköt ja nelinkertaiset vedet päälle BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! tosiaan antakaa armoa jos viimeiset kymmenen prosenttia jokaisesta laulusta leikataan täälläpäin studiossa heh, joojoo seuraavaa eteen.. seuraavaa jesterin sketsiä kiitos.. hyvähyvä tuhannes lablumi pikkusen alakanttiin here is no why

Two hours of my life stolen to continual fury - for two solid hours all I could do was long for the opening instrumental as it would stop the horrendous vocals and hilarious lyrics. Never have I wavered so hard in my intention to listen to all 1001. Two. Fucking. Hours.

I don't like the voice. I don't like the rhythms - always meant to disrupt rather than groove. I don't like the guitar - squealy or grungy. Just dull. Satisfied people's idea of what dissatisfied people want.