Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness

Some really good songs - overall kind of long though

The Pumpkins' third record is a massive double album clocking in at around two hours, featuring a blend of both louder, angst-filled, raucous rock and quieter, atmospheric moments. The quality of the songs ranges from mediocre to good (except for Tales of a Scorched Earth - I hate that song), and the musicianship is stellar. While the music is otherwise pretty good, Corgan's nasal vocal style takes some getting used to after a long break. I would enjoy this album more if someone else were singing. The lyrics are at times quite cryptic (or just random whiny nonsense, depending on how you look at it), though not as abstract as in Corgan's later work.

I enjoy it, its my type to music so that helped

Such a dynamic range of sounds and styles on display here, and certainly one of the longest albums I've listened to, but it didn't all blend together nearly as much as I expected. Overall there's a lot to love and I will definitely be listening to more pumpkins going forward.

Inside of the 2 hours of this album lives a great album. I wish someone had found it for them.

Really nice

I do not like long albums. I’m not a fan of the Smashing Pumpkins either, so this was a drag. These should be split in my opinion.

Day995 - one of the few albums that i looked forward to the release. it’s still great and it’s time to put the pumpkins in the rock and roll hall of fame

Hard pass

How is it so consistently good yet varied? I don’t think there can be any 2h+ album better than this

sounded like a compilation album with how varied it is. Very cool

Billy Corgan might just be my least favourite '90s vocalist, which is a shame, because he's obviously a top-tier songwriter. It's almost impressive how much he sucks the life out of the often brilliant music the moment he opens his mouth. Put anyone else on these tracks and I could easily imagine enjoying them, even loving them. I still really enjoy a decent amount, regardless. I usually don't mind when a singer has a more bratty vocal delivery, but Corgan somehow sounds both obnoxious and timid at the same time, without any charisma to back it up, and he's way too prominent in the mix to ignore. Anyhow, well-written tracks, but I just can't get over that particular factor. This is my second listen of the album and my opinion didn't change over the years. Hopefully, I will enjoy Siamese Dream more. Favourite track: 1979

My opinion can't be objective because I really really like them

I am so surprised by Smashing Pumpkin's versatility. It's impressive to hear them go from rock to heavier metal to soft ballads. I enjoyed this one a lot. Unfortunately, I am not one to separate the art from the artist and I am not sure I like their presentation of apolitical-ness.

all nostalgia

Ist natürlich wieder schwierig, an ein Album, welches man schon dutzende Male gehört hat, dieselben Maßstäbe anzulegen wie an irgendwelche first listens. Zur Wahrheit gehört, dass ich bis heute kein Doppelalbum (außer Live-Alben) kenne, das wirklich seine gesamte Laufzeit rechtfertigt. Irgendwo schleichen sich immer Längen oder Skip-Kandidaten ein. So ist es auch bei diesem Album. Während die erste Hälfte hier nahe an der Perfektion agiert ("Cupid De Locke" ist nur ein okayes Interlude und "Take Me Down" als Outro rauscht auch so vorbei), hat die zweite Hälfte gerade gegen Ende mit "Beautiful" und "Lily" schon einige Schnarcher zu verzeichnen. Generell finde ich hier das Pacing mit einigen Balladen oder Midtempo-Songs hintereinander sehr merkwürdig, die den Flow der Platte unnötig ausbremsen, zumal hier auch am deutlichsten wird, dass Billy Corgan wirklich nicht der allerbeste Sänger ist. Zu guter Letzt gefällt mir auch die Produktion dieser Platte nicht. Während "Siamese Dream" einen recht klaren Sound hat, klingt hier einiges etwas muddy, was im Kontrast zur krassen musikalischen Ambition steht, die hier an den Tag gelegt wird. Das ist für mich auch die größte Stärke dieser Platte: Hier werden so viele verschiedene Genres zu einem kohärenten Ganzen vermischt, während der Songwriting durchgehend ein sehr hohes Niveau hält. Hier sind einige Songs für die Ewigkeit vorhanden. Trotzdem werden hier keine Kompromisse gemacht und mit der gewachsenen Ambition die Ecken und Kanten im Sound abgeschliffen. Teilweise klingt es sogar mal ganz schön rough. Alleine für diese Entscheidung muss man wirklich den Hut ziehen. Auch wenn die erste Hälfte weiterhin mein Favorit bleiben wird, sind auf der zweiten Seite mit "Bodies", "Thru the Eyes of Ruby" und "X.Y.U." (den ich irgendwie immer mit "Zero" verwechsle) auch einige bockstarke Songs vorhanden, die sich nicht verstecken müssen. Also kann ich mich irgendwie doch noch zu einer knappen 5 durchringen, auch wenn am Ende wahrscheinlich 20 Songs gereicht hätten.

An sich ziemlich gut, aber auf diese Länge verliert es mich dann doch teilweise.

Wegen solchen Alben mache ich das hier. Witzigerweise habe ich vorgestern erst eine Anzeige zur Remastered Vinyl reingespüot bekommen :D Für mich ein sehr schön abwechslungsreiches Album. Die Gesamtlänge hätte am Ende ruhig 30 min weniger sein können, aber es war nicht zu kurzweilig.

Ich liebe dieses Album wirklich ganz ganz doll, jeder Song hier drauf ist mindestens gut, wenn nicht sogar ein Meisterwerk. Aber auch ich muss zugeben, dass dieses Album vermutlich mit 30 Minuten weniger Material besser flowen würde.

Not my jam. Two stars.

Some great songs, but just too long.

Before listening to this album, my mindset was "The Smashing Pumpkins is a prerty overrated band" After listening to this album tho, I still believe that they are. But at least I know which is overrated in their music. If they strip away the symphonic, dream, chamber, and some parts of their grunge sounds. They'd be a pretty good alternative rock band. That's not the case here so this album was only decent in my opinion. 3.5/5

People complain about Corgan's voice as if rock singers were always trained singers with actual technique. This could have been a great album but to make it double was just relasing some of the greatest songs 90's rock gave with many fillers.

There are some enjoyable songs on this album. The only problem is, I was bored after 15 songs (1 hour through) only to find I was at the half way mark

This may be my favorite Pumpkins. I actually LOVE this… album. But that’s the thing. It’s not. AN Album. Like Prince’s Sign O’ the Times and Stevie’s Songs in the Key. And like those other two, I fully believe it would be better as TWO AWESOME albums. Edited, organized, and put together thoughtfully for a SINGLE listening experience. If it were two albums I would probably give them both 5s. But this 2 hour madness is bloated. I get fatigued. Even if a large percentage of the songs stand out and can standalone. 4 Boolean: True

One of the best 90s album of all time. Has a little bit of everything. Great songwriting

Heard it many times before. It holds up pretty well, though some of the quieter and quirkier songs seem a bit dated.

Hits aside, the album flows sonically and spans different genres while creating memorable moments. I appreciated the dreamier cuts as well as the heavier riffs. 8.9/10

Eu conheço essa banda já há alguns anos, já tinha ouvido algumas músicas e nunca achei grande coisa. Eu dei play no álbum pensando que seria uma tortura, 2 horas de uma banda que não gosto? Torturante. Mas foi surpreendentemente muito bom, provavelmente vou ouvir mais coisas do Smashing Pumpkins. Deveria ter dado uma chance antes.

This is a long album...but there are so many good songs on here. Add to that a hefty dollop of nostalgia and this is a 5 star record for me easy.

I recognize the impact, but this album sprawls too much and makes me sick of listening to them.

I don't mind the length, it's great front to back. But if they had split discs 1 & 2 apart to seperate the grunge tracks from the more melodic tracks it'd be perfect.

I am told Billy Corgan is a big fan of this album

I owned this cassette and album. Bullet with butterfly wings forever altered my musical tastes. I appreciate this album now after listening with my old ears. Still not a huge fan of the ballads

Infinite? Sadness? Better say infinite maniac

Great guitars and some really nice quieter parts. It's a loooong album though.

a solid album despite Billy Corgan's best attempts to ruin it, both prior to and post release

Реально крутий альбом, не то чтобы гранд, особенно первая часть альбома. И первая часть для меня альбом на 8/10 и вытянула

Liked the first one. Didnt really vibe with the rest.

Have I listened to this album before No How familiar am I with this album I know a few songs How do I feel about this artist? I kinda like this Smashing Pumpkins but I only know the hits Pre-Listen Thoughts: This is one of those albums that some people absolutely love and others hate. I’ll probably be in the middle somewhere. Favorite track(s): 1979, Tonight Tonight, Stumbleine Post-Listen Thoughts: Parts of this were too intense for me, others were very pretty. I appreciate that it had so much variation because it’s a double album, it definitely wasn’t boring even if I didn’t love every song.

Whew ... That was about an hour and a half too long! I guess if they didn't have all of these songs, we couldn't have found the good ones. But still, too much.

why did bro say "balegdeh" i caaaannttt!! Ok why we doing metal now Hi. this guys voice is insufferable. To Forgive is actually really good, me likey!

Classic and perfect

The thing about The Smashing Pumpkins is that if you don't love Billy Corgan's singing voice, you're going to have a rough time. There's some good songs here, and I ended up enjoying more of the non-singles than the singles (maybe because I'm burned out on them), but I still can't really fall for Billy's singing style.

An absolute monster of a record that I love so much, even though it can be a bit of a chore to get through all at once. So many fantastic songs though. I find that they are best experienced shuffled within a playlist rather than for two straight hours, but that doesn't at all take away from the quality of what the band created here. It's ridiculously ambitious, it ranges from heavy to heavenly, and has held up tremendously over the last thirty years.

It's 3.5

Classic

Some great songs on this album, definitely their best work

uhh yeah we’re back with a banger. Absolutely floored that 1979 wasn’t my favorite of the album Highlights: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness Tonight, Tonight Bullet with Butterfly Wings To Forgive Cupid De Locke Thirty Three (favorite) 1979

oh i liked it! a little thrown off by the voice at first but then i got over myself and found it complemented the music very well. and the music! the music is my favorite part. that intro track is just gorgeous, and getting to hear the instrumentals peak through the whole album was pretty cool. and i really liked how much diversity in the songs there were, not everything sounded the same FIVE plus probs my favorite album art

I wanted to like this album a lot more than I did… it was really long which would have been fine if a lot of it didn’t feel that same? The stuff that was good was really good it just got lost in a lot of mid

It’s an album full of bangers (Zero, bullets with butterfly wings, 1979, etc) and is overall a very thematically consistent album. I just have to acknowledge—oh hello, elephant—that it’s a tad long with some songs that easily could’ve been cut to make a more concise listening experience. Could be a 5 on a couple relistens though

Me, listening politely I've said it once, I'll say it 1001 times, there's good material on here, but need to cut out the rubbish and get themselves down to a normal album length. Once again, cost themselves a point in doing so

This would be 5 if they made some cuts. No need for it to be 2h long. But hey, at least their gloomy music stops me dreaming of a future I can't possibly provide for myself

I smashed a pumpkin

There are a wide variety of sounds here and some strong moments, but unfortunately I can't take Billy Corgan's voice for two hours straight.

classic, but doesnt need to be 2 hours.

Nothing about this justifies the length.

Poslusala teke, bio oke

I don't recall any bigger news in all the world the day this album was released. I think me and everyone else I know had a passionate 3-year marriage to the Pumpkins, followed by a bitter divorce (in other words: it wasn't mutual, and Corgan blamed us). The breakup drama was followed by several decades of general indifferent forgetfulness. Revisiting this certainly reminds me of that love affair. Hilariously overlong and overblown and overwrought, but still full of some truly wonderful moments. In the end, this is an album made by people who did not believe there could ever be consequences for their actions. But they were wrong.

This reminded me of a few things: This was the first album I ever bought. It was purchased at the same time as Everclear’s So Much for the Afterglow, which I suspect and hope is not on this list. Fast forward 30 years, a period of minimal Smashing Pumpkins listening, and even less Everclear listening, to 2026 where we have a little family tradition of watching music videos after dinner. The five-year-old and the two-year-old were both delighted and a little scared of Tonight, Tonight. It really is a triumph of a video - a beautiful homage to Méliès. I saw the Smashing Pumpkins and QOTSA in Wellington a long time ago. Billy Corgan was wearing this sequined dress thing. He came back out, alone for an encore. This consisted of him announcing it was his birthday, getting the crowd to sing him happy birthday, then walking off stage and never coming back. So what do I think of the album? Well, much like my darling daughter: when it was good, it was very, very good, but when it was bad, it was horrid. And perhaps there is no finer example of the golden rule: bloated it be, one must give it a three.

Featuring the song “Zero” from the season 7 Simpsons episode “Homerpalooza”.

I'll never forget the first time I listened to this in high school. I bought it on a whim after seeing the video for 1979 on MTV2, and was utterly blown away. Incredibly diverse album with banger after banger. Love it!

Album : 17/1089 songs known going in : 4/28 favourite song : X.Y.U Cover art : stunning remind me of a christmas tree ornament I had as a kid Rating : 4/5 notes : really enjoyed the album just thought there was some filler all are good but some dont stand out too much I'd definitely listen to the whole album again when cleaning cooking etc. I really want to say this is a 5 star album because there are songs that I love but there are a few too many I wouldnt actively put on.

Muy bueno

la verdad es que no disfruto el heavy metal. Si hay un par de temas mas tranquilones que son un poco más piolas, pero después no lo disfruto tanto. 5/10

Decent album tbf, not convinced it all goes together in places and obviously very long. 1979 can see why it's a big track but doesn't make sense in it's location, would fit better in disc 1. Think as a 12 track disc 1 album with 1979 in it would be rated higher imo. Other than that a few really enjoyable tracks especially the butterfly one and enjoyed "here is no why" probably due to it's punk influences. 3/5

muito grande.

Ah, I played this album all the time! And saw them live @Roskilde from the front row (it was heavy, and amazing). A superb album, varied too.

this is where i jumped off the train. Gish meant so much to me. this is a different band. and it only got worse from here.

9.28.26 Really long but good Favorite Song: Jellybelly Rating: 4/5

Unas buenas otras no tantos, unas increíbles y unas para el olvido.

I mean it's the smashing pumpkins, what can you have against them?

Good

Gemoedelijk begin album, rustige piano. Verder heel wisselend. Soms wel wat te veel geschreeuw.

Non il mio genere

4.5

I’ve kind of avoided listening to this for years. I thought this was actually quite good. I think my issue is I just get tired of Corgan’s vocals. They work on some songs but 2 hours worth just gets on my nerves. Still enjoyed this though.

Crazy good songs and some duds

Favorite Track: Bullet With Butterfly Wings

I used to say that I couldn't listen to more than 4-5 pumpkins songs in a row before I got tired of Billy Corgan but here I am, two discs later, unapologetically rating it a five. Perhaps a little nostalgia is at play but that's ok.

Some of my favorite songs, but overall album 4/5

Good stuff is so good. But a lot of it is kind of mid for me.

Favourite tracks: Where Boys Fear to Tread, Love, Cupid de Locke

There are some great songs in here, which on their own would be a 4/5, but when I got tired of the album I went to look and I wasn't halfway through, maybe the second part has some bangers that I didn't appreciate because I was already bored of the mediocre songs in between and the shitty vocals.

Good album. Could be a 4.

Beautiful atmosphere established in the intro Tonight tonight is one of the greatest songs ever made Wow abrupt switch into the next track, fw the energetic drums and guitar Zero is so damn grimy i love it, that hook(?) is so infectious and always feels so cool to sing I like billys whinyness in this song, not much else to say lol. Ooo solo rips DESPITE ALL MY RAGE I AM STILL JUST A RAT IN A CAGEEEE. Had to turn my headphones up. The beating march of the drums leading up to the chorus is an underrated part of this song Slowing it back down again. He really can do the soft and heavy vocals both so naturally. Not as much of a fan of this one tho, feels a bit filler Ok right back to it. Fastest song so far i think. Another energetic banger. Nasty ass solo Interesting use of distortion on the vocals on this song, unsure how i feel abt it. Does help change up the sound a little This is a better example of a softer song imo. The harp is so peaceful Love this sm. Even better feeling than the last one. The guitar tone and synths combined with the beat on the ride create such a soothing atmosphere. Great climax too Again, whiny corgan is hard to beat. Great mix of energy and softness. I get lost in tge guitar 9+ minute song this should be good. Slow buildup doing its job rn. Wow i was not expecting that drop but i am pleased. Ok potential to be one of my favorites. Already 5 minutes in and I’m far from exhausted. I love how layered this sounds. Man the switch between this more somber ballad sound and heavy rock sections keep this song such an interesting listen. Not once in this almost 10 minute song did I feel bored or like i needed to go to the next song Ok this is definitely the most subdued song I’ve heard from them. Not that I don’t like it, i do, but this feels more like a transition from disk 1 to 2 Alright onto disk 2. The guitars at the start of this song feel like they’re talking from my left ear to my right and my brain is in the middle just absorbing their conversation Felt like i just changed the channel onto an old show that I forgot about but loved. Love is suicide. What is this caressing my ears rn🥹. Might be the best singing I’ve heard on this album. The piano compliments his voice really well. What a beautiful and motivational song Cool little acoustic song. I like it, but probably the weakest on this side so far Classic. Youll be hard pressed to find someone who doesn’t like this song. Can’t even a Say too much, just that it never gets old no matter how many times I’ve heard it Wow another big vibe switch. Back to the distorted vocals, although this time a lot more grating. The first song on the album id really say i didn’t like Another longer song. Liking this a lot more than the last track. Nothing too specific on this, just that it sounds great. Didn’t take me on the same journey as the other long song but it didn’t have to The fillerest of filler Ok great energy pick up. Banger but I am starting to get a little worn on this sound. Hope they’re able to find a way to keep it fresh in the final stretch of the album. Damn i didn’t even realize how long this song was. Right when I thought it was about to end there was another 2 minutes left, so it does kinda overstay its welcome a little bit Went from wtf is this to huh ok ill give it a chance. Ok back to wtf. I feel like there was a little bit of potential but they just did nothing with the song. At least it’s a different sound Oh fuck another weird one. Already not feeling it. It feels like their rendition of a children’s love song. Ok it’s kinda pulling me in a little halfway through but it may be too little too late Nope this one isn’t for me either. Feels like they heard my complaint about the sameyness and pivoted way too hard away from the sound that made the rest of the album so great. Im hoping these last 2 tracks end the album stronger than this stretch has been Ok another slower love song but this one feels a lot more natural in their style. I really like the bass on this song. Really sweet song and helps get this album back on track right at the end Decent closer. I mean i get the vibe they were going for with the emotional ballad to wrap up the album but i think the last song would’ve been a much better outro while still holding onto that same emotion they were going for Overall even though it kinda fell off towards the end, the majority of the album was able to keep me engaged to the point where the extended runtime was almost warranted. If they had cut it down to like 1hr 15min to 1hr 30min i think it would’ve been perfect. Solid 8.5 tho still

Very good, maybe a bit too many soft tracks

Gostei das músicas mais cantantes mas das outras n

The problem with most double albums is that there simply isn’t enough amazing music to allow for a fully enjoyable listening experience. Those that are consistently good all the way through (White Album, Keys of Life, Sign o’ the Times etc) are incredible feats of musicianship as well as great albums to listen to on their own for this reason. Most double albums begin to drag without a compelling concept or simply brilliant music for an hour plus. Now w this album, I understand why the Pumpkins wanted to get grander and more expansive after their brilliant album Siamese Dream. But two hours is simply unnecessary; that’s 3 entire sides of an LP - almost no album could be great all the way through. And indeed, this isn’t. Had this album been condensed into a Siamese Dream-length album it could be a brilliant effort, but a lot of the heavier tracks just do not hit for me and they drag this album down.

On *MC&TIS* Billy Corgan's pinched, sensitive boi singing sits squarely in middle of piles of guitar bombast and orchestral glop laid on thick enough to give The Moody Blues a run for their money. Some of this excess could be excused if there some actual *songs* underneath all of the aural muck, but even if you look past the surface there's nothing there except go-nowhere riffing and randomly strung-together chords.

Very nice Standout tracks: tonight, tonight and 1979

First thoughts no album needs to be this long. If you have this material you think is so good release two separate albums. I can see why live albums would be doubles but this takes the mick. Now can I listen to it all in a day. It's soooo long. I liked a good number of songs but the length is a killer

The SP album with the highest highs but Jesus christ is this the textbook definition of bloated or what. Even its lows are pretty decent but in no universe can this be a 5 with a 2 hour run time without a tight core narrative. The intro track going into tonight tonight is a magical start to an album. Standouts are Tonight Tonight (fave), Bullet with Butterfly Wings, Cupid De Locke, Galapogos, In The Arms Of Sleep, 1979, Beautiful, Lily and By Starlight.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long

I've loved this album since it came out. 10/10. No notes.

I know the Smashing Pumpkins for one song, "1979", which I like, but I'm also not a big grunge fan, including Nirvana. To me, it all sounds very "teenagery", immature, garage-rock-sounding, like a lot of 90s music. Probably the point, but still. However, the music here doesn't annoy me like other bands do. There's a weird bland of hard-hitting distorted grunge erupting with energy, and softer ballads that are at times beautiful, and other times schmaltzy. This would all be fine if the album had the decency to shut the fuck up after an hour. Instead, it's this bloated, over-long double (triple??) LP. And look, there are incredibly good double albums out there. London Calling and Songs in the Key of Life come to mind. But this is not it. There are some great songs, but they're drowning in an ocean of fine songs. Overall, this was boring, not gonna lie.

5: I will happily play this album anytime 4: I may occasionally play this album of my own free will 3: I will happily listen to this if someone plays it in the background 2: I will tolerate this if it is playing in the background 1: I will leave the room if someone plays this in the background I was about to rate this a 4 w/o listening as this album was on constant repeat in my house back when it was released. If I'm going to play a Smashing Pumpkins album it will almost always be Siamese Dream. However, I did listen to it on the way to work this morning and was reminded that despite the sprawling and harsher (production relative to Butch Vig) tone of this album there are a lot of great songs here. Porcelina and Ruby have always been favorites of mine.

Some great songs, but a bit long

another 90s classic. pure grunge. every album has been a pure banger

I mean it’s in my top 100 for sure ! Siamese dream is in my top 10

Individual songs are great, but in full it's a glorious, hot mess. Plus it drags on forever.

Such a good listen really good range and fkow,

Yuck

I like some of the punky elements, but the length is gratuitous and the voice grating after a while.

Drags on after a while but this does have some of their best songs

I fucking love this album. What a throwback to my childhood this listen was. Can’t wait to enjoy it again. I added a few tracks to my playlist

idk

Would rock out again

Genuinely one of my favorite albums of all time. The immense scope of this is everything that I love about "alternative" music, there is something for every mood and emotion. But wait, theres more! In an era where most groups were trying to sound polishedly unpolished here is a guy that actually wanted to make something that sounds great. Sure you could make the argument that because of the big swings that there are a couple of misses (for me the misses most people reference aren't misses at all) and we could go on and on about his voice though it suits his compositions here. The real gems in this album aren't the singles. This is record that rewards actually sitting down and actively listening. The more you really listen the more you seem to find as time goes on. 5 stars all day every day and twice on Sundays.

An album in need of an editor. Billy Corgan says they were making the "White Album" of 90s alt which, ok sure- but whereas the White Album already was arguably a bit too long at 90 minutes, this one is a ridiculous 2 hours. A frustrating 2 hours too, as it pinballs from some absolute bangers to useless filler.

A lot of ups and downs. Some songs were really good, some I didn't like at all. But all in all a good album

If you boil this down to the top ten songs on the album then you have probably the best album from the 90s. However, everytime I listen to it I pick another song I like. 8.25/10 Top song... 1979

So much going on here. A grunge White Album. Some great tracks but far to long.

Never ends.

I found this to be overindulgent and a slog to get through. If you only know the singles, you're not missing much.

Uu, najprej sm bla vesela, ker s kle mi je en kup komadov všeč & nikol se nism lotila albuma, potem pa vidim, da je album dolg dve uri... DVE URI. Ugh. Ok. Mam dve uri. Gremo. "Jellybelly" slišim prvič - ful fajn! Ok, mogoč bom tokrat (dve uri!) bl izpostavila meni nove komade (obviously the famous ones poznam & so mi bli zmer kul) & všečne at first listen: "An Ode To No One" (bobni! Energija na splošno!), "Cupid De Locke" (whimsical! Ful mi evoka naslovnico albuma.),"Galapogos" "Muzzle" (mislim, da vidim v kero smer gre moje poslušanje...). Na disc 2 je prvi neznani komad, ki mi je izstopajoč šele "Tales of a Scorched Earth". I guess preferiram prvi disc. Sledeči mi je isto fajn ("Thru the Eyes of Ruby"). (Mogoč pa rabim sam mal pavze & frišna ušesa? I'll do that.) Ok, druga polovica dics 2 mi je bolj pri srcu ("X.Y.U."). Ampak, predolgo je tole. Ha, "We Only Come Out at Night", kok random. Mja, prvi disc je ful boljš. Uu, najprej sm bla vesela, ker s kle mi je en kup komadov všeč & nikol se nism lotila albuma, potem pa vidim, da je album dolg dve uri... DVE URI. Ugh. Ok. Mam dve uri. Gremo. "Jellybelly" slišim prvič - ful fajn! Ok, mogoč bom tokrat (dve uri!) bl izpostavila meni nove komade (obviously the famous ones poznam & so mi bli zmer kul) & všečne at first listen: "An Ode To No One" (bobni! Energija na splošno!), "Cupid De Locke" (whimsical! Ful mi evoka naslovnico albuma.),"Galapogos" "Muzzle" (mislim, da vidim v kero smer gre moje poslušanje...). Na disc 2 je prvi neznani komad, ki mi je izstopajoč šele "Tales of a Scorched Earth". I guess preferiram prvi disc. Sledeči mi je isto fajn ("Thru the Eyes of Ruby"). (Mogoč pa rabim sam mal pavze & frišna ušesa? I'll do that.) Ok, druga polovica disc 2 mi je bolj pri srcu ("X.Y.U."). Ampak, predolgo je tole. Ha, "We Only Come Out at Night", kok random. Mja, prvi disc je ful boljš. Brez drugega bi blo 5 zvezdic.

not really my type of genre but not bad music

What a classic rock album! Favorite songs are Galapagos, Tonight Tonight, 1979 and Cupid de Locke.

The hits are hits, the rest...Billy Corgan's voice can grate on my ears.

Sounds good I’m just not listening to over two hours of anything not gonna lie.

It was really ok, too long though. Some good drumming and some flashes of brilliant guitar. Vocals irritating. Not as bad as I was expecting for such a long album.

Well, damn. Never bothered with Smashing Pumpkins before. My mistake. This was really, really good. I didn't even find it too long when some albums feel long at an hour. Impressive.

There is some excellent stuff on here and it's as good as I remember it being when I last heard it years ago. There's a good mix of songs as well. That being said, it could do with cutting a few tracks. Although maybe not quite enough to make it a single album. 1979, bullet with butterfly wings, tonight tonight, today we all know but throw in Galapagos and to forgive plus a load of others and you've got a great double album.

Surprising range of styles. Instrumental opening, then alternative classic in Tonight Tonight followed by metal drums and baseline...drums on this album stand out. Tonight Tonight, Bullet with Butterfly Wings, 1979 all bring heavy mid 90's MTV nostalgia, great songs. Not a huge fan of Bill Corgan's vocals, though his voice in these songs is iconic. Besides the old hits nothing really stood out as amazing.

Beautiful

An epic, a magnum opus, a legend. This stands alone due to its incredible breadth and consistency. To execute the spectrum of the opening track's delicacy to Bullet with Butterfly wing's agression, to write pop tunes like 1979 and Tonight, Tonight, to generate the wall of guitar for Zero and to keep it all together is a work of genius. Too many albums here do not merit their run time, but this does and is a spectacular album from start to finish.

There most ambitious. Some of if not most of their best songs. Say what you want about the dude (reminds me of the Elon of 90 grunge/alt rock) but this is a definite classic.

Their instrumentals are so good but Corgan’s vocals have always been atrocious. If he weren’t singing, I would have given it like a 4/5. Really, even a 3 is pushing it with both his terrible vocals in addition to the TWO HOUR length.

another one of my faves of all time… got me through highschool and i’m planning on getting a tattoo inspired by the linear notes!

The Smashing Pumpkins were one of the most memorable bands of the 1990's for me as I had limited exposure to 90's alt rock and they were on heavy rotation at the radio station I listened to when I was visiting my sister. They are quite distinctive, with Corgan's vocals and distorted guitars. I only owned their debut album, and probably should have had this one in my collection as well. But a double disc of the Pumpkins is a LOT of Pumpkins in one sitting. I like them better in small doses.

This would be a five-star single album. Maybe even two five-star single albums. As a whole package, it's just too much. When this album first came out, I called it "bloated". It still applies. Billy Corgan is not Brian Wilson. "Siamese Dream" is the must-listen. This spot could have gone to Hum, The Pursuit of Happiness, Sloan, Material Issue, or any other Mid-90's Alt band that deserved a bigger audience. Not for nuthin', but....Pearl Jam got only one album on this list.

Obviously a lot of filler here, but the good songs are too good to give this anything less than a 5.

Honestly better than I remembered

Nice

Classic SP album, love it

Opening number is quite lovely piano playing. I like the album more than I remember liking it. Possibly it was overplayed at the time. Title of “Bullet with Butterfly Wings” really should be retitled - I think of it as “Rat in a Cage.” Quite a long album - you need to be a fan to listen to this much Smashing Pumpkins in one go.

- A bit too loud and screechy for my taste

Not impressed, the first track is iconic but the rest is so so

Spoko, do uwaznego przesłuchania

I’m not sure you can write the story of music in the 90’s and not include the Smashing Pumpkins, they were that great of a force. This album is really the crux of that statement. It’s a true testament to have an album this long and with a great amount of genre-mashing and still have it be coherent and not feel like a drag.

5 sterren omwille van de "pareltjes" en heb het niet over de hits.

Hitjes zijn top. Duurt gewoon te lang. En voor eens heb ik het lastig met zijn stem

Blown away. de hitjes heb ik ondertussen wel gehoord, maar zoveel op dit album is enorm goed. wel weer een zeer lang album

Favorite songs: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, Tonight, Tonight, Here Is No Why, Bullet with Butterfly Wings, Muzzle, Porcelina of the Vast Oceans, Thirty-Three, 1979, Stumbleine, We Only Come Out at Night, Lily (My One and Only), By Starlight, Farewell and Goodnight

Another album I came into with super high expectations (for some reason), but this time I'd say they were basically met. This is a mammoth. Somehow, it really does work though. I won't sit here and say that Billy Corgan's voice is actually decent - it's not, although I suppose it does do the job - however I think it'd be ridiculous not to recognize his prowess as a songwriter. How the fuck do you write all of this. Just how. So eclectic, so strong, so deeply emotional. Definitely want to listen to and think about this one a whole lot more. Shoutout Chicago. Oh hey, I guess this is my 420th album. Shoutout marijuana.

Känns väldigt lång. Ett flertal riktigt bra låtar. Samtidigt en del som man kan vara utan. Väldigt varierande. 3,5 av 5. Bullet with Butterfly Wings, Thirty- Three och 1979 bäst.

What a classic album. I loved listening to the whole album after so many years.

Perfection. Maintenant je sais que le rock alternatif est mon genre de musique préféré

I tried but fail to like it. Voice is too whiny.

Some timeless but weird bangers. A lot of fluff. Still this album deserves its flowers

3,5

Iconic and 2 hours long

The first track lowkey is misleading to what the rest of the album sounds like. This one was a banger for sure tho.

Bought this CD on the day it came out. Classic.

10/10

Siamese Dream is my favorite Pumpkins album, but this one is pretty great as well. Suffers a bit from double album syndrome, but not too many lulls in the tracklist. 3.75/5.

5/10 Best songs: Tonight Tonight, Jellybelly, Thru the Eyes of Ruby I tried for years to get into Smashing Pumpkins but they never quite clicked for me, despite being a huge fan of musicians and bands said in the same breath. Upon this listen, I think I've figured out why their music never worked for me: Billy Corgan's voice is godawful. The music is terrific, but the man just can't sing. On occasion I can overlook his singing when a song particularly stands out (Jellybelly is outstanding, for example). In addition, this double album is unnecessarily bloated. Either it should have been released as two separate projects or there should have been judicious editing to cut it down to a single disc, because man, this album is a drag.

A very involved effort on this triple LP. The longest so gs are the worst. Billy covering several genres of music. Several really good songs. Probably should of been condensed into 2 separate albums.

A bloated, self-indulgent corpse of an album convinced of its own profundity. I bought this when it came out because I had loved Siamese Dream and Gish, yet this one never struck a chord with me. It always felt too long with lyrics inspired by magnetic poetry kits.

I want to give this a 5 so bad, but I always felt the back half of this double album dragged. The 2 most known double albums of famous 90s artists might be this and NIN's The Fragile. The latter is all gas no breaks, this hits it hard. Nothing wrong with that, cause the quality is there, I just can't give it a 5. 4.

Good memories but still prefer the softer songs. Don’t listen all the way through.

good 90s rock album. it has a lot of new influences and I could hear it at a teen party in 2005

Another from back in the day 1979, Bullet For Butterfly wings, Tonight Tonight all smashing songs. Really nice work here from Billy's vocals to the riffs and switch from ballad to rock anthems. I just think it was too long I get one day album one night but I struggle to listen to this in on ego it's just a top much. It's quite heavy and in bits brilliant in other areas hard. However it's a classic album that more than deserving to be here.

i really enjoyed all the instrumentals, but i simply just cant enjoy the vocals. i dont know why but every song i just get irritated because of the voice. would be a 10/10 if it was just the instrumentals because they really carry every song. also holy FUCK this album is long. if it were good i wouldnt mind it, but it just isnt.

nice

Some really good songs in here but it went on forever

the miracle of Siamese Dream is that the Pumpkins were always both floating and pummeling, a jetstream roaring and ascending at their heaviest, their softest moments their most deliberate. on the followup, they've decided they can only do one or the other, and must do each one a whole bunch of times. did you forget to stick the songs together, guys? is that why there's so many?

It’s good but not 2 hours good

Este ya lo había oído anteriormente La voz de Billy Corgan me parece horrenda, en especial sus screams, fuera de eso la música está bien aunque con la duración es fácil olvidarse de tantas canciones

muy largo

could be a 5 but really gotta trim this down Will I listen to again: 96%

It was ok liked it still Album cover was so good

To the user who's 1-star review is currently at the top of the pile, I see you and I hear you. You're not wrong in your assessment, though, I don't know if you were alive or old enough to be aware of this album when it came out. It was a massive record in it's heyday. Anyway, yeah, this album suffers same as a lot of double albums in the sense that had they left maybe half on the cutting room floor, it would have been better for it. Billy Corgan was honestly a great song writer (I say "was" since none of the stuff he released this century was all that good), but a great frontman he is not. His voice is nails on a chalkboard at best. Despite that shortcoming, there's some all time bangers on this record, but there's also a lot of fluff they could have scrapped and this would have been all the better for it.

Reminds me of childhood

I see the talent, but it’s just not for me. Also this many songs shows a lack of prioritization

I've listened to some of Smashing Pumpkins' bangers, yet I hadn't listened to the entire album song by song. Yesterday, I was extremely lucky that I finally did. It was a spiritual session. The album is a very rare example of versatility, musical wholesomeness, and uniqueness. Right after the very first song, my jaw dropped and never got back up. The masterpiece itself is hardly described by words. Everybody can find something of their own while listening to this album.

An iconic album from the 90’s that has one of the very best songs produced that decade (1979 - IMO the best Pumpkins song by a mile). It’s cover art has always particularly stood out to me, like you can’t have album art like that on a record that isn’t super important. Like many have pointed out, it’s a chore to work through this album, as it is for any 2 hour album or any quality. I’ve long been of the opinion that Corgan and the Pumpkins were at their when they stripped things back, à la 1979, though that’s too few and far between. Tonight, Tonight is brilliant, as is Bullet With Butterfly wings, and there’s a ton of good songs throughout the record. As a cohesive project, I think it would vault quickly into masterpiece territory if it was ~50% shorter. Perfect double albums are hard to pull off, especially with CDs allowing more data and enabling a 2 hour album length. I listen to a lot of records and 2 hours is tough to digest no matter how many listens. Still, it’s a fantastic record, even if it feels like the length feels forced at times.

Wonder if I still have this on tape in a box at my parents house.

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I like these guys but this album was too long to take in properly - and maybe a bit too long for its own good too, from what I was able to take in.

We have had smashing pumpkins before and I remember being really pleasantly surprised and in fact I think I did deem it "smashing" pumpkins. This one was more like squashing potatoes. Har Har har

I actually really like The Smashing Pumpkins. And I like a lot of these songs… I just feel like this album was all over the place as a whole.

2,5

Ok

I listened to it in depth. While it has some great songs, there is a lot to be desired on a few of the tracks. Overall, very good but not great,

Ambitious as hell. At times, perfect. Other times, it can be frustrating because (for instance) there feel like 3 or 4 album closers that the Pumpkins just couldn't pick between. But it's never poorly produced. For me, it doesn't quite stick its landing across both volumes. But there are enough moments of literal genius (especially for the time in which it was produced) to outweigh the more exhausting experimental songs. The variety is wild, from symphony to grunge to raw to polished. I'm not sure I'll ever have the patience to try to figure out the narrative across all of these songs, but it's an experience I'm grateful for.

I’ve owned "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness" for years, yet rarely pull it off the shelf - and I’ve often wondered why. It isn’t a bad album by any stretch; I can appreciate the quality and craft behind it. But, to me, none of the tracks trigger that visceral reaction that facilitates repeated listens, a deep affection for the material or a five-star rating. It’s a solid collection of good-to-very-good songs, but nothing here truly grabs hold of me. Three stars. Disc one – Dawn to Dusk 1 "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness" (Instrumental) (3/5) 2 "Tonight, Tonight" (3/5) 3 "Jellybelly" (3/5) 4 "Zero" (4/5) 5 "Here Is No Why" (3/5) 6 "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" (3/5) 7 "To Forgive" (3/5) 8 "Fuck You (An Ode to No One)" (4/5) 9 "Love" (4/5) 10 "Cupid de Locke" (4/5) 11 "Galapogos" (4/5) 12 "Muzzle" (3/5) 13 "Porcelina of the Vast Oceans" (4/5) 14 "Take Me Down" (3/5) Disc one total - 48 Disc one average - 3.4 Disc two – Twilight to Starlight 1 "Where Boys Fear to Tread" (4/5) 2 "Bodies" (3/5) 3 "Thirty-Three" (3/5) 4 "In the Arms of Sleep" (3/5) 5 "1979" (4/5) 6 "Tales of a Scorched Earth" (3/5) 7 "Thru the Eyes of Ruby" (3/5) 8 "Stumbleine" (3/5) 9 "X.Y.U." (4/5) 10 "We Only Come Out at Night" (3/5) 11 "Beautiful" (3/5) 12 "Lily (My One and Only)" (3/5) 13 "By Starlight" (3/5) 14 "Farewell and Goodnight" (3/5) Disc two total - 45 Disc two average - 3.2 Total - 93 Average - 3.3 395/1001 206/395 albums reviewed were new to me.

Sone great tracks

Massive respect for the ambition and the era it defined, but the theatricality and sonic whiplash make it a tough listen for me.

Only listened to half but I wanna go back and finish it. Liked this one better than the last Pumpkins album we had, and it grew on me song by song.

Unless you were a grunge fan outside of Nirvana in the 90s, this album probably should be bypassed. For me, nostalgia makes me give it 4 *.

Side One is an easy 4 close to a 5, great driving riffs and crunching songs. I'm already a bit fatigued by side 2 which is nice but a bit sleepy in comparison. A shame because taking maybe 5/6 of the best songs from each and you could have a 5 star album TBH

The problem with most double albums is that there simply isn’t enough amazing music to allow for a fully enjoyable listening experience. Those that are consistently good all the way through (White Album, Keys of Life, Sign o’ the Times etc) are incredible feats of musicianship as well as great albums to listen to on their own for this reason. Most double albums begin to drag without a compelling concept or simply brilliant music for an hour plus. Now w this album, I understand why the Pumpkins wanted to get grander and more expansive after their brilliant album Siamese Dream. But two hours is simply unnecessary; that’s 3 entire sides of an LP - almost no album could be great all the way through. And indeed, this isn’t. Had this album been condensed into a Siamese Dream-length album it could be a brilliant effort, but a lot of the heavier tracks just do not hit for me and they drag this album down.

I can listen to and enjoy the smashing pumpkins in extremely short bursts. The bloated sounding excess of 90s alt-rock is... It's a lot at the best of times. The "unique" singing style and the melodrama come together to make this an absolutely dismal 2 hour experience, but a lot of the songs on their own aren't that bad. Rating this as an album, its quite low, but as a set of songs to listen to individually? It's a bit better. Especially the first half.

Just ok

[4/5] alt rock grunge. wish it was one disc or a bit less than two hours, as i enjoyed the first disc a lot more. disc two feels like whiplash and promises to wind down before doing so. i luckily got used to the nasal voice. my favourite song was bullet with butterfly wings. 3.5 // rounded up for disc 1. track notes: [1] 1. minimal intro with melody tasting of what is to come 2. scratches my brain a lot, but struggling to think what it reminds me of. disarm, age of innocence, blink 182, ocean avenue. the strings are outstanding 3. driving the monster truck in simpsons hit and run 4. gallagher pronunciation of “she’s” 5. guitar so good i wanna learn 6. so this is where neil cicierega got that song from! biblical test with rats 7. working through it 8. raging voice destroyer 9. when he says “love” it’s like the “hello” in smells like teen spirit 10. harp! 11. nice gentle build-up, slowing things down 12. acquired the forbidden knowledge. his knowledge of meaning is the greatest counter to sartre 13. starts out like i’m waking up on a nice beach 14. suitable for a soppy bedtime [2] 15. tongue punching with bombs 16. grunge 17. a bit of a meander 18. yearning and deceit 19. we are so back, but annoyingly overplayed 20. dutty sound but he is just screaming. really jarring considering the surrounding songs 21. this song is longer than youth 22. slow and tender now 23. nursery rhyme but make it angry and gritty 24. squelchy sound with certified owl moments 25. thought i was listening to halo by beyoncé for a second 26. pov ur snape 27. shared emotional damage 28. wind down into sleepytime

A very long (arguably bloated) experience that was still nonetheless very enjoyable. Favourite track: Tonight, tonight

Ugh this one is so close to being higher on this list, potentially even a 5, but there are so many things holding this album back. First off, when I discovered this band in highschool, a big reason I fell in love was because I was the perfect age for this dramatic amount of angst. But also because a lot of their song so liked the most from them came from this album. This is definitely Smashing Pumpkins magnum opus. The biggest problem though, is it’s WAY too fucking long. 2 hours is just too much time with this limited amount of variety. There is variety but that’s just going back and forth between loud angsty music and soft angsty music. And it’s not as simple as, too much soft or too much heavy music. It’s just a lot of what they are trying to say and do is accomplished on the first half of the album which is more than long enough to be its own album. And while I do love 1979, a lot of their song second half feels like they were starting to run out of original ideas and started just adding more of the same. The other massive problem with this band is Billy Corrigan. I used to really like him and I though the fact why he was a big professional wrestling guy made him more endearing and grounded. But then he completely undermines that by being impossible to work with, firing a lot of the musicians that made his music memorable and special, as well as being a massive douche bag now. Like he has become everything he hated, and he’s completely oblivious to that because his head is lodged so securely up his own ass. It’s sad to see talented artist lose everything that made them special. For what it’s worth, “zero” is easily one of the greatest alt rock songs of all time! Thanks The Simpsons hulabalooza episode for turning me onto them as well as Peter frampton, sonic youth, and cypress hill.

U can really tell that the Smashing Pumpkins knew what they were doing when creating this album. This album literally embraced everything that happened in music before its release, making it extremely diverse and interesting.

Punky Sound. Like the drive. Diverse Songs, I like Galapogos. Surround Sound. Like the second half of the Album even better. My type of music.

Admittedly, this album had some really good moments, especially in the first half. Unfortunately I can't get past the grating vocals, the mix that makes me feel like I'm not hearing it right due to some non-existent hearing loss (especially with the vocals), and most of all, I can't get past being made to listen to two hours of this, even if the songs are not bad by themselves.

I don't love every song on here and I'd be lying if I said I was fully engaged for the full 2 hours, but man, at its best, this is some of the best rock music of the 90s. 'Tonight, Tonight' and '1979' are generational songs.

It's ok

6/10

un album con un rango muy dinamico, el sonido esta lleno de detalles y es muy definido. un tanto muy largo para mi gusto

Tonight is amazing song

smashing!

nice beats

Paar mooie nummers, teveel gekrijs en te vaak irritante gitaaruithalen

hai

If there’s an album that truly captures the spirit of the mid 90s, this one is definitely at the top of the list. So much of the music from that era has worn out its welcome for me I’d happily keep most of it buried. But The Smashing Pumpkins are the exception. Though they’re a quintessential 90s alternative band, they pulled in elements from nearly every facet of the culture back then. They had the grunge edge, hints of shoegaze and dream pop, a dark style that wasn’t quite goth, and even experimented with electronic music that was just beginning to make waves. This album is likely their most diverse, blending all of those elements into a single, cohesive work.

Couple of good songs like tonight tonight and 1979 but there is way too much melodrama and not enough melody to put up with that voice

My first DNF. I liked the first few songs but there’s just not much here. Megalomaniacal to make a record this long when you have so little to say. Lost me at “Bodies.”

Interesante.

despite being a pretty big Siamese dream fan, I don’t know this album super well. I think it’s always daunted me a bit with its length and reputation. I’m very happy to have really given it the time here though, because it’s pretty spectacular. Both halves are chock full of bangers and there are really no low points but some very high points.

Really enjoyed this. Not a band I've ever listened to before, not sure why.

Quite hard rocking but didn’t leave much of an impression

Nice vibes but did not leave a lasting impression on me.

The singles off this album are incredible. The album is quite a bit longer than necessary. Interesting end to the album where the tone and sound are completely different.

It was pretty good. It wasn't my usual style of music but it definitely wasn't bad!

Tremendo álbum. De lo mejor que el rock alternativo logró en los 90s. Quizas la poca variedad de temas y lo largo que es (más de 2 hs.) te hace perder un poco en el medio, pero es un discazo. 9/10

Pompous, overwrought, and bloated. Billy Corgan in full ego mode. Not a good listen.

Alternative rock built from towering guitar walls, delicate piano ballads, layered production, and emotionally charged vocals feels like trying to walk through a forest where every branch is covered in thick syrup—everything sticks together into one dense mass that becomes increasingly difficult to move through. While Others might say the album is ambitious, for me its oversized, saturated soundscape which feels exhausting rather than immersive. Despite the stylistic variety, I rarely felt the music had enough space to breathe.

peak

THIS ALBUM SAVED MY MOTHERFUCKING LIFE AT ONE POINT WHEN I WAS A LOST TEEN STUCK ON FAMILY VACATION HAVING A HELL OF A TIME (BAD) Seth - 5/5 Logan - 5/5

I can't shake the idea that this album is mostly the byproduct of Billy Corgan's long standing belief that he's very smart and very interesting. As true / false / complicated as that opinion may be, you should usually wait for other people to tell it to you first before you make a 2 hour long shoegaze pedal board album about the joys and sorrows of sleeping with Courtney Love. Siamese Dream is great and all, but this album only has (generously) 6 truly great songs. Christ, it may have more than that, but it all becomes wallpaper by disc two. What differentiates the 2nd song about religion and sex and rage from the 5th song about religion and sex and rage? Only the very smart and very interesting know for sure.

I listened to this a lot as a teenager. I probably realized even back then that there are quite a few filler tracks among the classics, and the album doesn't justify its two-hour runtime. Nowadays, if I listen to anything related to The Smashing Pumpkins, it's James Iha's solo album Let It Come Down.

Excellent album. 5 stars. It's my favourite album by The Smashing Pumpkins. It is excessive, but really good. Of course, it is very long but, in this case, that is ok. I like each and every track in this album. To name a few favourites: "Tonight, Tonight", "Zero", "Bullet With Butterfly Wings", "To Forgive", "Cupid de Locke", "Galapogos" (probably my favourite), "Porcelina Of The Vast Oceans", "Bodies", "Thirty-Three", "1979" (a classic), "Tales of a Scorched Earth" (nice aggressive contrast with the previous "1979"), "X.Y.U.", or "By Starlight". And probably a couple of songs I don't like that much: "An Ode To No One", "We Only Come Out At Night",

So much better than I originally thought

I prefer the songs that weren't hits. And improved outlook on the band noow that I've listened to the full album.

Nice melodies

I was really excited to see this one pop up, its been on my list for a hot minute and I was not disappointed. The start to this album is really nice, slowly building in energy, with both emotional quieter tracks and some angsty punkish rock tracks. As annoying as Billy Corgan's voice is, despite all my rage i am still just a rat in a cage is a great lyric for that chorus. I was really surprised by some of the tracks on side one, notably love, Galapogos and take me down, really beautiful and sensitive instrumentals. I've heard some complaints about the overly dramatised lyrics but tbh I dont really focus on lyrics when I listen, more of an instrumental person so I didn't hate this album. Gonna give this one 7.2/10 and 4 stars, subtracting points for the length, (side 1 was great but 2 was a bit of a drag), and because Billy Corgan is a bit of a stuck up wanker. Update, im halfway through the second disk and im getting sick of it, this is lucky to get away with 4 stars.

Hah. There's probably no album I have more nostalgia for than this one. It made such an impression on my childhood, and for a time, Smashing Pumpkins was my favorite band (despite my access to this album being a ripped version on cassette that didn't have all the songs). With time, I can say that Siamese Dream is their better complete album. But still, this album goes all over the place in the best way. And while it does have a lot of the typical album bloat that I feel most double albums have, there is a TON of their best moments here. But the second disk in particular is not quite as strong, and some of the latter tracks feel more like B-sides that were kept on to make it a double album... which is, again, how I feel about most double albums. But still, I'll always love this album.

i mean it's just the smashing pumpkins

Large and ambitious with some really great songs and not a lot of filler. This is one of the first albums I bought with my own money. I enjoyed it then and I still do now.

Went to read the 1 star reviews of this for a laugh

Amazing production and musicianship! Proper rock that borders metal while maintaining a nice diverse style balance. One moment it sounds like some progressive balad, other moment Mudvayne-like madness. Voice is sometimes a little annoying

Great album overall, so many great songs that are on my favorites list like 1979, tonight, tonight, and dizzle. I definitely like they're more chill stuff but the harder rock songs are good as well.

Possibly my favorite album cover art. I thought this album would be a just fine way to spend two hours and enjoy the handful of songs I knew. I was wrong. This was a beautifully executed work with a surprising variety of moods and melodies. I found myself moved at times, head banging in others. From start to finish I loved it, and even after two whole hours, I wondered when I could listen to it again.

A masterpiece of songwriting and musicianship featuring two of the greatest songs ever in "Tonight, Tonight" and "Bullet with Butterfly Wings", as well as several more excellent tracks that would be the crown jewel of any other album including "Zero" "Galapogos" and "1979". Furthermore, these standout moments are woven together by songs like the title track and "Jellybelly", that may not be earworm singles themselves, but are still well crafted songs that perfectly match the tenor of the album giving it the feel of a cohesive work. The guitarwork in this album is masterful and manages to stand out while still serving the song. The other instrumentals consistent enough in style to stay on theme, but creative enough to keep the listener engaged. I know that the biggest criticism of this album is that it is bloated, and while I think it could have been cut down a little, I rarely felt like I was listening to filler. With the exception of a one or two of the songs near the end of the album, each track is unique, but still feels like it belongs. Yes, Corgan is a pretentious weirdo now, but if I wrote the riff from "Zero" I would be the most insufferable asshole on planet earth. Yes, the lyrics are super corny, but they earn the corniness with the instrumentals. Nitpick all you want, it is still a 5/5.

Wide range of styles of songs - didn’t know the Smashing Pumpkins could also do soft. Generally enjoyed.

hell a good a bit of me only 4 cuz I don't like all the songs

Better then other ones but not my fav

not for me but i already have the 1979 song

Musically the songs are quite good but damn it's basically impossible for a 2hr album to be engaging the whole way through. So yea 3 stars but on the higher end of 3 stars cause the songs are for the most part pretty good

Thematically pleasing. A few songs stick out as unnecessary and subpar

Corgan's Folly and the Infinite Badness. I'm just kidding I liked it. But jesus christ 2 hours. And it's basically all the same shit. Can you imagine if you didn't like Billy Corgan's dumb voice and you had to sit through 2 hours and 1 minute of basically the same song 28 times. They could remove an hour and I probably wouldn't notice. They managed to get like 5 all-time great songs but with that many shots on goal anyone would have. It's the monkeys typing on typewriters principle. The last few songs finally justify the double album by being a little weird and outside their standard style, but mostly it's just bloated Siamese Dream.

Its well documented that many successful rock groups get so famous and full of themselves that they lose their filter and self awareness. They fall into a trap of thinking that anything they put out will be amazing and gobbled up by fans. Even Zeppelin did this in their later years. Here is Corgan and the Pumpkins doing the same, putting out a bloated, self aggrandizing double album that could and should have been a great single album. The great songs are great, the bad songs are bad, and there is plenty of blame to go around.

no estoy acostumbrada a este género, pero me gustó el ritmo, zero fue de mis favoritas

This would be an incredible album if it was roughly a half hour shorter

Never knew I liked alt-rock so much till I listened to this album. All of the instrumentals were great, and the medolies were nice. I just had a great time with this album. But, it did not completely move me for a 5.

Más que la tristeza el álbum es infinito, dos horacas. Un disco con tonight, tonight y beautiful no puede bajar del 4, además pateás una piedra y sale un hitazo encima los otros temas están buenos también. Sape sape

Boy am I happy to have finished that seemingly endless "masterpiece". Sure, it presents a couple good songs that have been played ad nauseum on the radio, but everything else seems overcooked and comes off as conceited filler. Maybe it's the grating of Billy Corgans voice but I find myself irritated and maybe a little angry after having finished the album. I bet I'd enjoy it a little more if it were fully instrumental. Regardless they could have cut half the material from this album and it would be just as good, probably better. Giving it a 2/5 just for the radio hits. Also noting what a cringe album title it is; maybe it was more impactful in the 90s?

This is a lot of album. I was in high school when this was released and I remember it being a big deal with some of these songs being everywhere. But for some reason it just wasn’t for me back then. I am a little jealous of what it must have felt like back then to be a huge fan of Siamese Dream and then a couple years later this album is released with amazing songs. I doubt I’ll ever seek out this album again but I can absolutely see what an achievement it is.

This is where Smashing Pumpkins lost me. There are some great songs on here and there are some kinda fun weird songs that would’ve made good b sides. But it’s so so long! I was getting viscerally angry when there were like 4 songs left. I’ll go four stars because the good is really good.

A straight up masterpiece. I don’t even care it’s two hours. Well, I sort of cared. But I just couldn’t let that drag it down. It’s 2 or 3 five star albums in one.

3.41

Absolutely amazing album that should be a rock music lovers paradise. The album has many distinct noises and amazing sounds and includes a wide arrangement of instruments l. Throughout the album, I never found myself to be bored. 5/5

i was first introduced to the pumpkins through my chemical romance, and the only two songs i've ever liked were "bullet with butterfly wings" and "daphne's descent". currently, i do not enjoy neither my chemical romance nor the pumpkins. also, corgan is a pretentious weirdo and i can't stand him.

✸ Okay! Another banger album from an annoying man. ✸ Tonight, Tonight is so good. ✸ Zero!!! So angsty (complimentary). ✸ Bullet With Butterfly Wings!! ✸ With only a half work day today, there's no way I'm going to get through this two(!!) hour long album.

Sounds fine but not one I would return to.

7/10

4.5/5. It's really great most of the time.

In an effort to get some of the longer entries from the 1001 albums to hear before you die challenge out of the way before I get exceptionally busy on Monday for the next 6 months, I wanted to listen to what is arguably the band's biggest album (commercially) in their discography, Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness. This 2 hour double album was a cultural statement when it released, and should have never succeeded with the length, genre, and experimentation this album had all over it and yet it became a cultural zeitgeist. This album isn't just a Grunge album like Siamese Dream or Gish, it is a much more lively collection of all sorts of different genres mixed together under one big 2 hour long umbrella. Personally I have never been big on this album and never really got the hype behind it all, and even still to this very day I do not. This album is extremely bloated and only really has a few highlights worth mentioning out of the 28 songs here. The complaint of Billy Corgan sounding "nasally" when singing really shows itself to be true all over this album and can definitely get under your skin if you let it do so. I was definitely feeling the rage boiling up inside me at By Starlight even though that is a highlight of the album for myself. The music is so all over the place that it is both admirable and sloppy in the same breath. I get Billy wanted to reach for the stars here but I really think he overshot his abilities when Siamese Dream does exactly what he wants with a much better sound/style/runtime. This album is good but should not even be close to considered a classic in my eyes as it truly lacks a much deeper focus and style I think that would make it something close to one.

An album of immense ambition and surprisingly good execution, 'Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness' presents so much variety and passion that it never loses your attention, and its technical flaws are often charming rather than disappointing.

Обожаю эту группу особенно Х.У.U, bullet with butterfly wings, 1979

This is a very good album. Quite long but still enjoyable.

One of the dumbest album + opening track titles of this entire list. Not as bad as Chocolate Starfish, but it's up there. 121 minutes is also definitely going to test my patience. The Smashing Pumpkins aren't looking too smashing, at least not off the bat. But there's a ton of excellent material here. Of course, it's balanced out by an equal amount of passable-to-mediocre music, but when you insist on releasing two hours of content, what else could you really expect? Still, I'd like to see some sort of concept tying this together. Other than the concept of melancholy. That ain't cutting it for me. But man, you have to give it to them. They can record a stunningly pretty instrumental. That combination of strings, Mellotron, and piano, with an uncertain yet gorgeous melody... wow. With Tonight, Tonight, you begin to understand why they launched us off with an instrumental. The singer resembles a really off-brand Mick Jagger. Fortunately, all the big orchestral stuff in the background more than makes up for it. It helps that Corgan doesn't try to belt anything. My ears might just waddle away if that were to happen. Props to the drummer – there are some solid fast fills, recorded cleanly and complimenting the strings nicely to create an almost cinematic, musical-esque feel. Then with Jellybelly we hear a complete stylistic left turn: metal. Who knew? A great jolt of energy that suggests these guys know what they're doing with album sequencing. Which is an extremely important factor in judging album-based listening. Zero takes a similar approach but with less focus on dark, distorted riffs and more sort of Ozzy-like "weird" vocalising. Here Is No Why and Bullet WIth Butterfly Wings continue the general hard-ish rock sound, with the latter once again boasting some excellent drumming (especially at around 2:30!) but not much otherwise. To Forgive breaks the streak, though, reminding us that the Pumpkins can pull off a strong, powerful slow-tempo bluesy number. Disc 1 drags on a lot in the middle, but I'll mention points of interest. Cupid De Locke is exactly what I'm looking for in the midst of a bunch of goofy anonymous rock. Great riff on a string instrument that I can't quite place, along with some violins, (electronic?) harps, and an airy, refreshing atmosphere that contrasts hugely with preceding songs. Galapogos acts nicely as a sort of extended coda to Cupid De Locke. Porcelina Of The Vast Oceans worried me from its 9-plus-minute runtime, but it (in fact) kind of slaps. Especially that 2-minute ambient intro. A cool dark riff-rock intro to disc 2 with Where Boys Fear To Tread. But the quality completely flops as soon as the vocals come in. Overall, the second disc kind of drops the ball in terms of quality. Plenty of forgettably heavy, melody-less songs to go around, including Tales Of A Scorched Earth, Thru The Eyes Of Ruby, Bodies, and Beautiful. The song 1979 is good enough, but disappointingly tame and un-experimental considering it's the band's biggest song. Maybe I'm being a little unfair since I had this disc on in the background with a group of friends complaining about how bad it was. 3/5 Key tracks: Tonight, Tonight, To Forgive, Cupid De Locke

I knew all the big songs on the album but had never listened to any of the rest of it. I give this album a B....it starts off good and even the end songs are good but 28 songs that sound a lot a like is a lot to listen to in one sitting. The album is good but I do not think I will need to revisit it

Absolutely love this double album

DNF Vibes, Bullet w butterfly wings Also 1979 & an ode to no one Gooood Loud in a great way, sometimes gets a bit American (??) whiny??

Listenable 'background-music" rock

I bought this album when it came out back in the day as I was in the thick of grunge love. At first I was a little put off by it for sure, it seemed a lot softer, more artsy than Siamese Dream. Not sure why I thought that at the time as there are still a lot of heavy tracks here. Probably I just didn't like that there were softer moments on the album at the time. Now, some of those softer tracks sound pretty solid for me. I still don't think it's as good as Siamese Dream--the song writing isn't quite as good overall and the album is bloated. They could have easily dropped a few tracks from this to make it more killer single album. Zero is among the group's best tracks ever, and Bullet with Butterfly Wings is solid. I've even come to like 1979 more. Still not sure about Tonight, Tonight. Other tracks like Bodies are great. Thirty-Three is an example of a softer track I enjoyed more now. Underlying all this is probably my hate for Billy Corgan and his singing. He's a good song writer when he wants to be, I'll give him that. But man, as much as I listened to Siamese Dream back in the day, his personality and voice always still kind of annoyed me. High 3, could be a 4 but let's be real, I owned this album and barely listened to it when I was a teenager with all the time in the world.

Not a fan at all of Billie Corgan's voice or massive ego.

Not a massive fan of 2010s alternative music

Justifies its length with quality music, lyrics are great, production is great. The albums order is very important because the mood shifts like a tide

Overlong and pretentious but with some great moments.

I wanted to give this album another listen for a while. Now im kinda forced to do it lol. Its great, I love it, I love it, I love it, its great. Its both soft and heavy. The album explore multiple genres of rock from alternative metal to dream pop and it suceeds in all of them. I think I could like it even more in the future. Even the album cover is amazing. This is how you do a good double LP.

Much too long and I simply can't stand Billy Corgan's voice. Two stars, one each for Tonight Tonight and 1979.

Alternative Rock Favorite Songs: Tonight, Tonight, Jellybelly, Zero, Bullet With Butterfly Wings, To Forgive, An Ode to No One, Cupid de Locke, Porcelina of the Vast Oceans, Thirty-Three, 1979, We Only Come Out at Night, Farewell and Goodnight Least Favorite Song: Where Boys Fear to Sleep So, confession time: I didn’t really like The Smashing Pumpkins after listening to a few tracks before this album of theirs. I felt like Billy Corgan’s vocals wasn’t my overall thing when I first heard him. He had that whisper-y voice at certain songs, and it felt like he didn’t had enough energy to pack a meaningful punch. And then I was randomly chosen to listen to this album. And my mind had mostly changed. I actually think the album’s great, from the first legitimate song Tonight, Tonight, to Zero, to 1979. There’s a lot to like about this album, and I definitely felt like I was judging the band way too harshly. Now, the only issue for me is how the album is bloated with songs that I didn’t necessarily cared about, but were just either just okay or decent. I felt like we didn’t really need to have two CDs at once and would’ve been fine if it were two separate projects. I did enjoy the first CD over the second, and part of me thinks that I was feeling a little fatigued of listening to two straight hours of the album. Still, this album is going into my personal collection. 8/10.

I just cannot get into this enough to listen to the whole thing. I'm sorry, maybe in the future I will relisten.

Wasn't giving enough respect to their game back in the day. It's obviously long but they broke it up into two for a reason.

Fuck off

May Billy Corgan be stricken with weeping facial and anal boils. I bet he already is. Such a piece of shit this guy. Narcissist and overrated.

Блин, я не послушала этот альбом полностью, но стиль их мне вообще не зашел. 5/10 Мб вернусь когда-то

Good album. I like more melodic tracks like title track and in the arms of sleep.

Хороший альбом, но почему блять двойной и такой нудный я почти умер

Huh. I must have misclicked the 3.

I don't even need to relisten to this with how I've memorized this album. Killer. 4.5 rounded up to 5.

Heard before?:❌️/✔️(not entirely) Will listen again?:✔️

Mega copado un disco de dos horas que se siente de 40 minutos, definicion de curaduria, si no hubiera tanto grunge seria un 10

3.5/5

Well, that was epic. I never believed I could endure two hours worth of Billy Corgan's shrill whining, and as I've noted on Siamese Dreams, his voice drags down some pretty good musicianship. The lyrics are often mysterious, but they seem to point toward isolation and a vain attempt to find one's way in the world. And, while Corgan's vocals are grating and hard on the ears, I feel like they're perfectly suited for Bullet With Butterfly Wings.

enjoyed the piano intro. track 2 is great, definitely one i'll get some mileage out of. up to track 5 now and enjoying everything so far. plus, track 5 is one of the best so far. ohh, track 6 is where that rat in a cage line comes from lol. tracks 10 & 11 are my kind of thing. porcelina is a banggeerrrr ! oh, take me down is lovely as well. this album is really interesting - the varied sounds all balance each other out really nicely. 1979 is obviously a classic. thru the eyes of ruby is great. nearly teared up at the outro of that song, it was so unexpected and beautiful. we only come out at night is great too. now i think that's enough track-by-track lol. overall i really enjoyed this album. i found it really interesting, engaging, and at times unexpectedly soft and pretty. there were some points where i found the vocals grating, e.g. 'in the arms of sleep'... but the vocal and instrumental performances across the album were overall good to great (instrumentally, mostly great). i feel this was a really good album to start with as well, since i'm not overly familiar with rock music in general and this album is so sprawling and touches on a lot of different sounds. 3.9/5

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Sympa mais faut que je réécoute parce que ça m’a un peu saoulé mdr

The generator is bombarding me with double and triple albums lately. First disc is honestly pretty fire. Some of the Pumpkins biggest hits mixed with some nice deep cuts. This is much more metal than I expected. Corgan's voice and lyrics can be grating but it's also part of the band's charm. Porcelina has no business being as good as it is for a 9 minute track and Take Me Down is a nice come down closer. 4/5. Break for a few hours. Second disc starts hot. Less hits on this side besides 1979, but it's a good mix of hard and soft. Their drummer is a beast. X.Y.U. is a sludgy highlight followed by a softer closing stretch that didn't do much for me. 3/5. I will always be a stickler for excessive album lengths so despite some high highs, this rounds out to a strong 3. I want a rap album next.

If Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness isn't on your 90s alternative Mount Rushmore, reexamine yourself.

[This review was written back on October 20th, 2025. It is being published as is.] The double album, if improperly handled, can seem like the biggest act of hubris an artist can commit. It's the declaration that all of their ideas are **so good**, not a single one can afford to be cut. You **could** trim it down to the best — but fuck you, here's two discs of shit. The artist might consider it bang for your buck; a lot of others would probably consider it bloat. It's a tricky balancing act, where you **need** to consistently keep the quality up. If it dips, for even a moment, people are gonna start to wonder if it was worth it and the whole thing can fall apart. And if this was an issue back in the vinyl era, you can imagine how much worse it got once CDs became a thing. Consider: if an artist were to release a double album on vinyl, they'd have, maximum, 92 minutes to work with. Each disc can contain up to 23 minutes per side — maybe more if they finagle it, but generally they were max 23 minutes. While you **could** include a lot, it would still mean some stuff would have to be dropped in order to make sure everything fits. Plus, with the extra production cost of manufacturing a second vinyl, it's no wonder they weren't altogether **that** common. They were mostly flex moves by artists who knew (or at least thought) they could justify it — The Beatles, Prince, Led Zeppelin . . . those kinda guys. But then the CD came along, and already things were screwey. A vinyl record, by itself, could only hold 46 minutes of music without sacrificing quality — a CD could hold anywhere from 74 to 80, though most people kept below 74. That's already 28 extra minutes of runtime to play around with, and that's before you realize that they don't even have the constraints of physical space to worry about anymore. They could just include whatever they wanted! **Every album** could be as long as a vinyl double album if they wanted! Thus came CD bloat in the 90's — every artist including every song idea they thought of because, fukkit, they have the freedom to, so why not? Give the people some more bang for their buck! Surely they won't mind all of these albums being ass-long! And then comes the **double CD** album. Albums on CD can already be long enough as it is. They can already be an hour and ten minutes long! What kind of egotistical madman would you hafta be to include **another** disc of material?! Thus: Billy Corrigan and his Smashing Pumpkins. Y'know, there aren't many albums on this list I find too daunting to talk about. I mean, honestly, what's the worry? It's just music — I know talking about it is like "dancing about architecture," but it's not **that** hard. But there are a few I knew I'd have some issues with. Some of them have to do with being respectful about the artist; some of them, it's about being respectful about the subject matter . . . though for most of them, it's about the length and, particularly, the scope. '69 Love Songs' was one of them. 'Songs In The Key Of Life' was another. 'Ella Fitzgerald Sings The Gershwin Songbook' turned out to also be one. But all of them, for one reason or another, kind of paled in comparison to this album. Like . . . by this sentence, I am nearly 600 words into this review. And I have yet to really figure out how exactly I wanna try and capture the scope and magnitude of Billy Corrigan's epic masterwork. I mean, goodness, it's a 120-minute behemoth. It's far from the longest album my group's covered, but **for sure** it's the one with the grandest scope. How do you tackle something like this? Something so immense? How do you capture it all in one review — and can I even keep this from being under 2k words? I guess it just comes down to the question I indirectly posed above: is this an act of hubris? Is this album Billy Corrigan waving his dick in our face, telling us how good all of his ideas are, or does the album actually manage to hold itself up despite its weight? For my money . . . I'd say it does. It manages to live up its own lofty scope, and then some. And it's all for one simple reason, I think: variety. "Tonight, Tonight" doesn't sound anything like "Fuck You (An Ode To No One)". Similar goes for "Bodies" and "1979". Or "Lily (My One And Only)" and "Jelly Belly". Or "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" sounds nothing like "Stumbleine". They're all very recognizably Smashing Pumpkins, but they switch it up from track to track and keep things fresh. There's grunge and orchestral work and heavy metal and soft rock and alternative rock and progressive rock . . . it's a veritable smorgasbord of styles. What I'm getting at is that on the average long album from a band or artist, there would probably be just . . . more. Even with fast songs and slow songs and loud ones and quiet ones, it'd still just be the band doing their thing, however good or bad they do it. That's what leads to filler — when they just don't cut the chaff that doesn't stand out and it ends up causing everything else to mush together. I'm not saying you couldn't find 'Mellon Collie' to have filler — no album this long and with this many songs couldn't — but I think each song is unique enough from each other that there's nothing I'd personally point to. In that way, it succeeds in a manner similar to The White Album or 'Sign 'O' The Times'. I will say, I might've benefited from the way I listened to this album: I did **not** take it on all at once. Instead, I listened to it in chunks, following how it's split up on the 2022 vinyl issue (which splits the record into — yes — *four discs**). That allowed me to digest the songs a lot easier. I imagine if I'd put it on from front to back, all in one go and without stopping, I might've gotten sick of it. Heck, I **know** I would have gotten sick of it. With my attention span? You'd better believe that long before the end of side one I'd be dyin' out here! And seriously, if you don't tire yourself out, this thing is loaded with good songs. I've loved the grandeur of "Tonight, Tonight", for instance, with its orchestral backing. The title track is such a pretty intro. "1979" is a wonderfully wistful piece of alt. synth-pop. "Beautiful" is as lovely as the name implies. I've long appreciated the sound of "LIly (My One And Only)". "Cupid De Locke" is amazingly maximalist baroque pop. "Stumbelina" is a wonderful little acoustic number . . . and it's not just the quieter songs I like! "Jellybelly", "Fuck You (An Ode To No One)" (what a solo!), "Zero", "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" and "Bodies" all rip like hell. And then you have "Porcelina Of The Vast Ocean", which is nine minutes of progressive psychedelia and worth every damn second — goodness! (And to address this here quickly: Billy Corgan's voice. Me, I don't mind it all too much, but even I can **completely** see where other people would get **real** sick of it **real** fast and still have, like, what, 80 minutes left to go? Goodness.) It really does surprise me how well this album plays, despite its length. There's never a moment I think it's bloated, and it's all just so . . . wonderfully constructed. Even taking into account how I listened to it, no album should really be able to keep as consistent as this one does, and for as long as it does. I know albums both longer **and** shorter than haven't accomplished what this one's managed to. I just can't imagine cutting a single thing. It really is a testament not only to Billy Corgan as a songwriter (musically, anyway; I've heard his lyrics are maybe a bit **too** wangsty), but to the rest of the band for being able to play it as well as they do, and to the producer for pulling it all together. I understand completely that not everybody's gonna be able to put up with this record — again, it is a **lot** to ask **anyone** to swallow — but I think if you give it a chance there has to be **something** you like. I heard that Billy Corgan, in the face of the decline of grunge, wrote this album as if it was their last, and if it had been their last one . . . it would have been an amazing one to go out on. In the years since 'Mellon Collie', long albums haven't stopped. I can't name too many notable ones going into the 2000's, besides maybe 'Speakerboxxx/The Love Below', but if you wanna look at where they're **really** bad now, check out your local streaming service. There's a lot of artists putting up bloated projects for no other reason than to optimize streaming numbers — and for some artists, it's clearly worked all too well, unfortunately. I mean, do you see how many albums Drake crams onto an album? And how damn **long** the last Weeknd album was? Goodness me — now **that** is an album where he tossed in every last idea he could think of just because he could. And don't even get me started on that one three-hour Chris Brown album. It kind of makes you wish they'd take more inspiration from 'Mellon Collie' — if not on a musical level, then at least as an example of how to make a good double album. One that's unique, eclectic, and filled to the brim with the strongest songs they could muster. **This** is an album that gives you bang for your buck. And whatever you wanna say about Billy Corgan and company these days, they at least provided us with a masterwork like this. It's not one I ever come back to in full all too often, but when I do . . . damn. Y'know? So lemme just close with as simply as I can, with a thank you, farewell and good night.