The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady

2.5/5

Lo disfrute, siempre es lindo este estilo. pero no es lo que mass me gusto de este estilo

It's super good music, but Ive always found Charles a bit frantic for my taste.

Not as bass heavy as you’d expect from Mingus. The b side has a walk on the wild side (Jimmy smith not Lou reed) feel.

Labs nosaukums. Pats albums isti ne lidz galam, bet iespaidojoties vakar klausijos tikai klasisko muziku utt. Vienigi atkal gribu dejot baletu…

Jiz🪊🪊

I can hear the brilliance in this, and enjoy it as well. Something that's not always a given for me and Jazz. I probably won't come back to it but I'm going to give it a 5/5. We don't always have to completely understand music to appreciate genius.

I wasn't blown away.

This is like the soundtrack to a wordless film noir, the wild uncontrolled music which lurches from melody to spiralling noise tells a story. Desire, loss and violence all without a word said. It requires you to really listen and it rewards it

Fucking shit

Wonderful craft, a great example of experimental jazz, I guess. I appreciate what they are going for, but I have to be in a very specific mood for this kind of music and today it did not hit. I couldn’t wait for it to be over. I would probably enjoy this live in a jazz club, focusing on the performance, but I don’t think I would ever play this album.

I’m fine to let a lot of jazz albums kinda just fade into the background but the ones I find myself enjoying most are the ones with moments that make you perk up and pay attention. This is full of those moments.

I'm not a fan of jazz but this was inspired - as though the instrument was talking Track C - Group Dancers was the best track

I think I understand Jazz music now.....I think.

Jazz is such an interesting genre to me cause despite the fact I haven’t delved too deeply into it Everytime I hear something it’s so often an incredible experience. This was no exception what a journey.

good background music but not something I would listen to on its own

I do like jazz but not slow jazz, written by the artist where there is no tune to follow. There is no thread to listen to, nothing to hang on to. I prefer to hear a good song and listen to the way they improvise around the melody. This album is not for me.

Snooze fest

Great but songs too long anthoigh very varied.

Track A could not finish.. Was not expecting the mariachi vibes in Track C!!!

Without a doubt one of the greatest jazz records ever.

I liked the variety of intensities on this album though the end of the second track was a little too chaotic. but i dislike the timbre of a soprano sax in the best of scenarios and so this had an uphill battle

This made me feel really distressed but I think it was well done I just can't handle this sort of jazz

Fav: Track c

Кокофония.

Jazz sometimes goes misunderstood to me. This is one of those cases

I fear I'm in the minority with this one. But this one is definitely just for people who LIKE jazz. Not just appreciate. I appreciate it, but I have to say that I didn't enjoy this one. It felt too much like a sharp and jutting cliff.

Ah so you are listening Lord Randomiser. After commenting on the Zorn album yesterday that I need more Jazz education you drop this mysterious number. What a wiki entry! Mingus is metal as f. ---------------------------------------------------------- Heavy, dark, jazz. Holy guacamole. Mingus you blooming well did it! You made me sit and connect fully with a jazz record. This is an absolute aural journey. Big band evolved into a higher plane. I don't have the jazz terminology but this is dynamic as all hell. The piece starting with [Medley] has so many pieces crammed in there that it feels almost like an animated mythology bestiary? That doesn't really make sense but you get the gist I guess. I'm definitely coming back here again. 4*

There's boring jazz and fun jazz. This was fun.

Never listened to this, glad it came up on the list. I do like some abrasive jazz and this was just abrasive enough to be enjoyable. Good, great even, but not my favorite

Just so brilliant - love Mingus and this album in particular

Magnificent and complex Duke Ellington big band reinterpretation by the genius Charles Mingus. Masterpiece.

Fantastic.

Too much info but pleasant nonetheless

Exceptional from start to finish. 4 - a great album even among this list.

1. Evolved nicely over the course of the track but overall couldn’t see me listening too often, didn’t have a wow factor to me 2. Big upgrades from first track, felt ominous and interesting, nothing mind blowing but a good piece of music 3.nice track nothing special 4.nice track but very long, couldn’t finish Overall just don’t think it’s my genre

I'm still not sure exactly what makes a jazz album great, but I enjoyed this one so that counts for something.

Väldigt annorlunda upplägg från de flesta andra album men det var nice att lyssna på när jag gjorde mig i ordning och gick till skolan. Tyckte inte det va lika nice när det blev lite snabbare i slutet men det var ju fortfarande bra, jag var bara inte sugen på att lyssna på det just då.

WOAH. Best Jazz album ever?! You never know where it’s going to go next but everywhere it does makes total sense.

Tag: no lyrics/instrumental It was fine.

Jazz is sooo fun

Phunky Phresh

Big band music, not for me

This is the kind of chaotic jazz I really love, the Spanish guitar sections are a great twist as well. All round great vibes. Changing it to 5/5 cause I'm certainly going back to it over the next few weeks, I think Jazz is becoming my favourite genre out of all this. Love Mingus' blend of aggressive outbursts over smooth melodies on this album

mildly interesting.

This album makes me want to watch Cowboy Bebop. There are parts I really enjoyed. Others I was like that was a lot to hear all together at once. Track C-Group Dancers was my fave.

This sounded like they just recorded a warmup session and no one was playing the same song for more than a few measures...

I had no idea our elementary school band was so good at experimental jazz fusion!

This is a 2, 3, 4, and in some places a 5. This lands at 3.5 which teeters between 3 and 4 but then I picture myself in a smoky blue-lit room swatting smoke away listening while I sip bourbon and so it's a 4.

I don't understand this album, but I like it. It sunk its hooks into me.

I’m reminded once again that I love jazz and always will. Do I think I’m better than other people because of that? Yes. Yes I do.

Maybe this is the album that finally gets me to appreciate jazz, because this was amazing. Maybe it was my mood or the setting I put myself in but this dark, gritty, hectic jazz sound really connected for me. Time to give Miles Davis another try. Track 3 was really unforgettable.

I really enjoyed it. Not super memorable though.

I'm not very far in to this project yet, but I already know Jazz is not my thing, unfortunately. This was fine to listen to in the background; just doesn't do anything for me...

As far as jazz goes, this is great. I’m not the biggest jazz fan in the world though. It sounds like these guys are having fun, but I’m kinda bored. 6/10

while i wouldn't listen again it was incredible

4/5 cool

Good vibe

Drop the Charles.. it’s cleaner

love it when a guy makes the best album of all time

Yeah whatever

I don't quite get it, but I do feel it.

Vaya discarral de jazz. Animado, frenético, por momentos caótico... Un gustazo descubrir a un artista como Chales Mingus.

TL; DR: Angry man makes beautiful, transcendent, genre-hopping jazz. BEFORE: I know very little about jazz and almost nothing about Charles Mingus other than that he had a very bad temper. Like, punch a dude in the face so he can never play the trombone again properly bad. AFTER: This is a really special album. It's big band jazz but it incorporates so many other genres of music - in that sense, I loved this a lot more than the Count Basie album I listened to a few weeks ago which kind of washed over me. It sounds like taking a journey and it doesn't sound angry at all. I was totally captivated and occasionally confused through the entire album. HIGHLIGHTS / LOWLIGHTS: Doesn't really make sense in this context - it's a single piece, even if it is broken down into separate tracks. The flamenco section was an unexpected joy but it's all just really, really good. VERDICT: 5 stars. Also, if you review says something dumb like "I just don't like jazz" I really don't understand why you would put yourself through this exercise.

Enjoyed this. I found that it helped focus on work.

4 tracks, 39 minutes. A maestro captured on vinyl

nice

I've tried to like this album with a half dozen listens over a few years, it just won't take.

superlative. mingus's writing is tremendously inventive (but just conventional enough to let your brain reset occasionally), the players are absolutely ripping it up, and the production captures the full range of sound from abrasive to plaintive.

4.5/5

Not my favorite kind of jazz. 2/5

Wow. I have never heard anything like this before. The sounds bellow and thunder and roll at you before catching you in their current and lulling you along and under, only to spit you back out into the maelstrom again. As you surrender into the vortex you grasp it's elemental power and beauty. Quite simply extraordinary.

Crazy sounds, atmosphere in this album is perfect. This album took me to another artist Nala Sinephro.

I found this interesting at times but over all I didn't really vibe with it and won't listen again.

Ryan Adams is not a good person.

Ei torvisoittoa eikä varsinkaan jazzia minulle

just fabulous stuff

A fascinating album full of sounds I didn't know you could make with a horn. This is some jazz-ass jazz but never alienating even for someone like me who tends to prefer the easier-listening end of the spectrum. The momentum of the whole album builds from track to track, and the motif of an increasing number of dancers really works with that. I'm really glad this was on the list.

This wasn't bad at all! This was very well done, BUT this just isn't for me. It all starts to sound the same and I get bored. I liked parts of everything, but I will never reach for this. Mingus is super talented tho! Liked Songs: "Track B - Duet Solo Dancers (Hearts' Beat And Shades In Physical Embraces)"

i dont understand jazz...

Einer der meist sexede Alben die ich je gehört habe. Wtf??? Hat ein tollen cabaret-flare über sich. Krass toll.

I like the consistent "bwow-wuh" in the background of the first track. It has great variety in instrumentation and speed, but still feels put together. The second song is more varied, and what I think is the trumpet with a mute sounds totally like a voice. This track definitely has some more traditional African inspirations. The third opens with a beautiful piano and then goes into some really fun movie soundtrack type of stuff. It is long and drawn out, goes back to piano, and then goes to an amazing Spanish guitar and orchestra. The last track kind of puts everything together. Overall, I enjoyed it, and I can appreciate the impact it had. I would revisit it, but idk how much. 3/5 Favorite Tracks: Track C-Group Dancers Least Favorite Tracks:

it sucks that institutionalized racism robbed Mingus likely becoming the preeminent cellist of his generation, but at least we got stuff like this in the bargain. 5/5.

Goddamn, just look at that album art. The title is such a statement, the words pop out to you one by one and your eye drags down to the top of Mingus' head as he lights a smoke, like the smooth motherfucker he is. His name and face frame the title, but the title is front and center. This album helps explain jazz the way I tend to explain it to people. It's about different kinds of communication. People can yell over one another in a loud conversation, and that can sound annoying but they're still saying something significant individually. Here we're given the context of a black saint and a sinner female, so my mind takes these movements, these dances, as potential promiscuous activity. The solo dancer, the couples solo dancers, the trio, and the group dance, something that could easily sound like an orgy of musical instruments. The gradual display of these different kinds of communication is masterful, like having the ABC's sung to the tune of Mozart, it's a simple way to understand something fundamental. I'd own a copy of this in a heartbeat, and I'm happy to know the project so I can keep playing it when I'm hoping for a solid instrumental jazz mood. 4.65/5

I contain multitudes. I can recognize this is a cool album while also praying for it to end every second I'm listening. Two stars.

Oh, man! Mingus firing on all cylinders!

No me encantó, no niego su calidad musical pero no es como mi tipo de jazz

9.5 / 10

This was great! Over too soon! Luckily it just went right into another album by Mingus. Very pleasant. Would like to listen to this again.

Interesting but not something I’m likely to revisit. I like the same approach better when applied to an idiom other than post-1930’s jazz. The band Xiu Xiu, for example.

I feel like jazz and fine art are very similar to me. I don’t know nearly enough about either to speak intelligently about it, I only know a few of the most prominent names, but sometimes it just makes me feel something I can’t explain which is pretty cool.

"do you like jazz" no not really

Random Jazz as If I were in a Chicago club back room in the 60's or 70's. I'm not. And now I don't ever want to be.

Everyone say thank you Charles Mingus !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Straight fire !!!

It was quite good. I loved the classical guitar in the songs. And just all the instruments coming together was just amazing. Pretty good👍

Ah, I see! So this is what influenced the jazz freak out at the end of Radiohead's "The National Anthem"! "Track B" was definitely my favorite here, but when it comes to the closing track, there are parts I liked (especially in the last 5 or 6 minutes), but I didn't love every second of it. Still a very solid jazz album!

Really enjoyed this one. The back half in particular was really solid

Really cool sound! Some of the horns alternate between beautiful and cacophonous depending on how I'm feeling. Would listen again but less likely than some chiller jazz, so mid 3

Good Jazz album, a little overrated for me

Hold da op - fik kæmpe chok ved trompet om 5:36 min af første sang! Super fedt album!!!

Impulse! A-35 (Worldwide 2021 reissue) vinyl rip: The lower-register horns really pierce through the mix. And I like it. "Duet Solo Dancers" is my favorite track. Definitely not your average run-of-the-mill jazz record. Very disorganized, dissonant, and busy. Side 2 was a little too "out there" to really enjoy.

Way back in ye olden days of yore, I was part of the school orchestra, playing the double bass. And in my final year we had a new instructor, who would discuss music with us aside from what we were learning for the seasonal concert. When I told her I was dipping my toe into jazz, she brought me a burned CD of Charles Mingus. I don't know what happened to that CD since then, but boy am I happy that The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady didn't sound familiar. I know jazz has a tendency to wander off the beaten path, but holy hell did this album take it to the extreme. I can say that the tracks do actually sound like they belong on the same album, but in each song it goes so off the rails that trying to pay attention to it just leaves me with a headache. Not the worst I've ever heard, but it's definitely not for me.

A beautiful album. I love the times when the melody takes centre stage.

Very nice, one of the best jazz albums. 4.2/5

Almost one consecutive jazz track. I mean I didn’t love it nor did I hate it. It had snippets of dark undertone and some jazzy breakdowns. I appreciate but I won’t be back. 5/10

Mingus - The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady Cuious as fuck Sleazy as fuck Messed up as fuck Confusing as fuck Intoxicating as fuck Relentless as fuck Exhausting as fuck Like teenage sex with your mums best friend. You know you shouldn't have, but you're probably going to get tricked into doing it all over again. 9/10

3.5

Thanks Mingus

i live for this shit.

Really enjoyed the drive and urgency of this. Chaotic at parts.

Number: 209 Familiarity: None (1) Rating: 5 ======= Wow, what an amazing album and what a great birthday present! Thank you 1001albumsgenerator. I was not expecting this at all. I'm not really a fan of jazz but this is beyond jazz, You know, when people ask me what it's like to be on acid, I often tell them to listen to Jimi by the Butthole Surfers but I'm thinking Track B-Duete Solo Dancers is right up there with depicting the experience. I don't give many 5's as I have pretty strict criteria for that but I have to give this one a 5 even though I doubt it will be something I listen to much after today. Still, the next time I'm the mood for jazz, I'll probably be listening to this.

i'm a sucker for jazz.

It’s good, just found that it bordered on stress inducing jazz instead of just interesting jazz for me.

One of the best jazz records of all time. And this might be in my top 5 favourite jazz albums hands down. The originality of the compositions, the emotions conveyed and the orchestration is phenomenal. You won’t here another Jazz record like this one.

relisten

Un genio con un carácter muy particular. Aquí luce en todo su esplendor. Un disco fabuloso

Still struggling with jazz but there's a melody.

Challenging but enjoyable. Will listen again

I already know and love this one

I should try listen while studying

The more jazz I get on here, the more I learn that I just really don't enjoy it.

It was completely jazz vibes. Part of me did like it but I think it got a little too wonky and I wanted the songs to feel a lot more flowy. Some of thr jazz really hit tho at times. Review - 7.5/10

got kinda tired of it tbh

6/10

Definitely had some redeeming qualities, but I was mostly just waiting for this one to end. There were too many sections that reminded me of my middle school band warming up before recitals. Just a cacophony of brass and woodwinds all doing their own thing to get into tune. I think I just don't like jazz...

listening to jazz is like playing chess - it's a mental workout. It's dynamic. It makes sense to me that this album was written as a ballet - it's film noir, cinematic, unexpected (hello Spanish guitar), and romantic. The kind of music you'd expect to play as a veteran detective, hands stuffed in the pockets of his trench, walks dejectedly in the rain. The piano was resplendent. I definitely picked up on a lot of classical motifs. First album I've listened to so far that I'd characterize as a true work of art.

Would be a 0, but it will have to be a 1. I just cannot get on board with this type of music - not that i think its bad, I just instantly stop listening

Precies een sprookje

Too discordant for my ears.

07/26 Boring

I went into this album expecting another fairly traditional jazz album. Then I saw it described as avant-garde jazz and experimental big band, and suddenly I was a lot more curious. A lot of the music follows a pattern where it settles into a familiar jazz groove and then—boom—something strange happens. The tempo suddenly shifts, the whole band crashes in at once, or some unexpected instrument wanders through the door and changes everything. Then it settles back down, only to repeat the cycle again a few minutes later. It’s unpredictable, a little chaotic, and pretty fun to follow. By the final track, though, the constant twists started wearing a little thin. There are only so many times the music can pull the rug out before I start expecting the rug to move. Still, there are plenty of cool moments throughout, especially the introduction of the classical guitar, which added a completely different texture. A fascinating and very ambitious jazz album, even if its controlled chaos eventually became a bit exhausting.

Maybe I'm just a snob with my jazz and I'll only take the best

First jazz album since Brilliant Corners, and honestly, it wasn’t my favorite, but I liked it. I don’t feel like I have too much to say about it, I enjoyed the use of an almost flamenco style guitar on some songs, and I thought the songs were well put together. I also liked that the album was relatively short, that way it didn’t end up feeling dragged out, it was a nice blip of jazz. I don’t know if I’d listen to it regularly, but overall, not bad.

I hated this. The first song was the worst type of jazz. It was so discordant. Terrible. The other songs weren't quite as bad, but I hate jazz and long songs.

This is a relisten. I love the abrasiveness and aggression that comes through in the horns. It sounds like it’s personified emotion. One is forced to think about where the next step of this song/album will be, which allows them open-mindedly listen to the creativity. Damn this album’s good

Ik moet 1 ster geven want ik houd niet instrumentaal. En jazz. Werd heel zenuwachtig van dit album.

Well this one sounds interesting. It's a jazz concept album showcasing the composition of one of jazz's great band leaders... And one of its most violent. He had a notorious temper that resulted in him punching a trombonist in the face once(according to Wikipedia). As for the actual album, it's amazingly dynamic free jazz. While most jazz just settles for being pleasant background music, this album is an absolute rollercoaster of a listen. It has intricate parts followed by loud blasts of sax noise and even a part that sounded like distorted speech coming from the saxophone. This is properly great jazz, forgoing cocktail-bar pleasantry for legitimate artistic passion and playing with so much fire it makes some metal bands look like wimpy indie folk bands. Here, the Angry Man of Jazz records a stunningly uncompromising free jazz record that is one of the best things I've heard in a while. This album is ranked #6 of 8 albums for 1963. Other 1963 albums rated by me: Live at the Harlem Square Club(1/8)-5 The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan(3/8)-4 James Brown Live at the Apollo(4/8)-4 A Christmas Gift for You from Phil Spector(7/8)-2

I’m a jazzhead and Mingus was always challenging for me. This is top tier orchestration and composition tho and I understand its significance here and in the jazz world, but it’s not a jazz album that I personally crave

This reminds me of the first album I listened to here: Back at the chicken shack, to which I gave 2stars. So why am I giving this 4 stars? Because if nothing else this project made me enjoy jazz music

un monument de la musique j'ai détesté

Starts out as perfectly respectable piano/bass/trumpet instrumental jazz. Then you hear interesting sounding human voices and think, "oh there is singing." And then you realize the voices are trumpets and there is no one singing at all. By the middle of the album, it is full-on orchestral jazz. Definitely belongs on this list, but not sure if I would listen to it again. Will search out some other Mingus stuff though...

I liked it, but was welcoming the end during the last track. Jazz is great, until it isn't.

Great

5,50/10 No es malo, pero muy raro en bastantes momentos. No me termino de cerrar

I’ve heard this before but not since college, and only a few times at that. Mingus is one of the jazz greats that I’m not real familiar with, so this was a fun listen. Most of these songs have a Duke Ellington type composition but breaks out into an early hard bop that lets the horn players stretch out and improvise. I like the wide range of horns used here, especially what i think was a bass sax or tuba hitting low notes throughout the album. The composition is great throughout the whole album and it works as a continuous project and a concept album before the concept of concept albums was conceived. I’ll need to listen to this more to get the full effect of it but on a renewed first impression it’s amazing.

Wow. This one had me from the first five seconds. One of the things I’m most grateful for in this project is the light that is being shone of some little jazz blind spots. I’m very into this.

My friend, the same guy who hates Tom Waits and loves KFC (skin), calls soul patch facial hair a ‘Mingus’. I have never found out where this came from nor heard anyone else use this term, but it has been burned into my vocabulary for about 20 years now. We call the real good ones a Power Mingus - reserved for the ones that radiate steeze and repulse women.

I really have to get more into jazz, some crazy saxophone stuff going on in here. need to make a playlist of easy listening and jazz because I felt like i was in a whole movie

Jazz man... Not really my thing

Fun fact: The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars is also 39 minutes long.

Looked it up on Wikipedia first, which says “it is widely regarded as one of the greatest jazz records of all time.” It also says “the album comprises a single continuous composition—partially written as a ballet—divided into four tracks and six movements.” Figured it would be a slog on that basis. Which it was. If you imagine yourself at a Miami hotel, mid 1960s brat-pack era, perhaps on the set of Goldfinger, the first track works. But too much of the rest sounded like a band being dragged blindfolded through treacle to nowhere in particular.

Thank you 1001 Albums, having listened to one of the greatest Jazz albums of all time I now know what I always suspected: Jazz is Not My Thing. Just because it's hard to play doesn't mean it's good. Making me wait through 4 minutes of sound for every 1 minute of music to create an enhancing contrast is a dick move.

Jazz

Please do not be alarmed. This is the jazz alert. Stay calm. It will all be over soon. Once the sounds have ended you may go back to listening to music again.

Not for me

I really like this actually, very dark and forboding saxophone.

I’m not enough of an intellectual for this.

Buy vinyl of this: No Jazz album, but not really my thing, however if I was going to go to a smokey or seedy jazz bar, the kind where smoke hangs in the air and there are characters of a questionable sort that frequent the establishment, this is exactly the kind of jazz I would want to hear being played there.

I don't really understand jazz, at least not the way many people claim to. This was fine. I didn't love it or hate it. I'm going with neutrality.

I can honestly see why this is a five-star album for a lot of people. But it's really not my kind of jazz it has some awesome moments in it but it's also a bit too chaotic for me at the same time. *Solo Dancer* is definitely my favorite from the album. (7.77) ★★★½

Amazing avant-garde jazz. 5 stars

Brilliant possibly, but also a bit too swamped with brilliance that it becomes cacophonously unbrilliant. I would definitely swop this with Dave Digs Disney by Dave Brubeck, another important work from six years earlier.

Super Dope

Good background jazz. Nothing to write home again about, but would be nice while enjoying an outdoor breakfast or the like.

Muy lindo jazz pero corto álbum

A strange, powerful and disturbing record. It reminded me of parts of the Lost Highway OST, which I can only assume was strongly influenced by this artist/record. It's not the kind of jazz music I typically want to circle on, but very interesting nonetheless.

Fantastic. What a thrill ride of a record, and a repost to all those who assume jazz is a chin stroking, laid back cerebral music. This is sweaty, messy, chaotic and utterly brilliant. Plus the acoustic sounds vinyl reissue sounds incredible. Mingus is a legend. Easy 5/5.

I like this one more than typical jazz offerings and while my mother-in-law listening in said it "sounds like they are warming up" this one pleased my ear. So 4 stars it is.

As mentioned before, my rule of thumb for jazz is to let it wash over me and see if I feel gross afterwards. I left feeling refreshed, so it's a good album. Highlight: Group Dancers

My favorite discovery so far!

alright this is awesome Will I listen to again: 100%

Trevlig jazz för en gångs skull

Typa stuff K-TON would listen to after a hard days work.

Kenton ahh album

Relaxing and interesting, definitely a breath of fresh air from my current interests

Solid jazz album.

You can feel deep love for the craft with a pinch of disturbance on this record. I’d like to see the story come to life in a dance form.

Didn’t know about this album, but it is incredible. Superb from a technical, narrative, and even experimental point of view

My man

God dang Mingus. Dit is zo'n vette plaat. Avontuurlijk en gelaagd. Er kan zomaar een klassiek Spaans gitaartje ingezet worden, of een plotse, onverwachte tempowisseling. Track C is schitterend vooral, het eind van Mode D in unhinged.

first jazz album, not really my type of jam, will def revisit the genre though, saved 0/4

Again, I don’t really like jazz, or instrumental music, again I have been blown away by an absolutely incredible piece of art, incorporating big band themes and Spanish notes This felt very classical based with the instruments taking a life of their own. Its transcendent.

Great album for some smooth jazz fusion.

I only like some jazz….

i liked it

Well balanced, sounds good

Some decent jazz. Some of it was very good some a bit long winded.

Opening track “Solo Dancer” has an interesting sound that sucked me in. Despite note being a jazz aficionado, I can tell it’s excellent work. Ends in energetic happiness.

слишком прогрессивно для меня хотя если б весь этот альбом был проигрышем в песне King Crimson, я бы сказал что это гениально ахаха

И снова жяяяяяз

Весьма и весьма вайбово. Даже слушая фоном зацепило

объявляется неделя джаза, это уже поинтереснее, но все еще 3

considere um 3.7, um jazz bem animadinho mas n me deixou mt na vibe

Pretty solid jazz

The algorithm for this really knows that if it wants a 5 star review from me it can just give me a great jazz album.

Eh

4.5/5

There was a little too much going on in this for me.

This is good stuff

Too much, man.

Sometimes this type of jazz hits for me...and sometimes it doesn't. Maybe it's the heavy use of brass and the various dissonance, but I just wasn't feeling this one. Not bad, but not for me.

Not my thing, but I respect it

Interesting album. Was a nice change to the other music I've had. I really liked the type of music, just not specifically the songs on this album, nothing grabbed me. As such I've decided to go for 3/5, but it has spurred me on to look more into this world of Jazz.

Definitely a typical jazz record. It's a good album and it incorporates all of those things that makes jazz great. Great album overall.

Surprisingly good for a jazz album.

Another jazz album today that I really rather liked. Went surprisingly quickly (because I'm concerned when there's only a few tracks that it'll feel like it's dragging) and it had a real sense of pacing and drama. Loved the drama in this.

I listened to this album back in around 2024 and I wrote this; "I love jazz music. However, this album felt like different noises being played into my ears at an annoyingly loud level for a really long period of time it was absolute garbage with some highlights. ( which was when those noises weren’t screaming into my ear )" and honestly, I wasn't that wrong. This album really is a bunch of noises in your ears that are semi relaxing and strange all at the same time. I am not sure if its my cup of tea, especially since I had dreaded returning to this one.

Niin siis tuota siis. Tosi paljon tööt-ääniä. En oo klassinen jatsin kuuntelija, mut pidin tästä silti. Mut onhan pelkkää tällasta aika raskas kokemus. Also on hauska huomata, miten media värittää maailmaa. Tietyistä riitasointuisista äänistä tuli fiilis, että tanssijat (jotka tosi vahvasti kuvittelin pyörivän musiikin tahtiin noiden biisien nimien perusteella) olivat vähän humalassa. Kiitos animaatioelokuvat, jotka ovat tämän opettaneet.

Knowing little about jazz and not being the biggest fan. I like Herbie, Bitches Brew, sime Cannonball, and a bit of jazz/rock fusion, amd in my opinion THIS is one of the very best jazz albums on earth.

slept to this on a train

Perhaps I want to be hip jazz guy? I love this. It's so interesting, the Dynamics are amazing, the instrumentation is so fun, new things come in and out repeating motifs. I loved it

This album is something special. It's full of unique jazz music, with some very impressive performance technique. There's a surprising amount of storytelling for an album that is entirely instrumental. Great stuff. Favorite track: hard to choose due to the nature of this album. It's almost one continuous musical piece, but I think "Track C – Group Dancers" contains my favorite bits. I especially like the last minute or so of that track.

Jazz really isn't for me. A bunch of annoying noises mashed together for nearly 40 minutes doesn't make for an enjoyable listen. 1.5/5.

Good to listen to if you want to get some work done. I appreciate it for what it is, but I'm unlikely to listen again.

Uskomaton bängeri. Vähän paksua jazzia mulle koska oon poppimakuinen ihminen mutta ihan supersvengaavaa ja miellyttävää.

Listening to this with context of a "ballet" definitely makes it logical in the style. Does it mean that I like it? No. Can I appreciate it for what it is? Sure.

🪢a🪭 ★★

I really liked the first track. Definitely a keeper

Ahh, this is really good. I'm almost taken aback. Like, I don't really know jazz at all, but this album feels really ahead of its time. I'm listening to it and being reminded of all the modern experimental and post-rock bands I adore. There has to be some sort of influence here, damn. Really fresh and exciting to listen to. Maybe it turns out I like jazz?

This album is really really good and one of the first jazz albums I’ve ever listened to, and it’s still so fresh and unique and different from the other ones I’ve listened to since. Amazing.

Oh, what a day! Just love the way this slips, slides and glides from swing to free to swing…. Beautiful melodies and tempo shifts keep the music driving forward. A Mingus masterpiece! 5

Idek what to say about this, too intense for anything I do in my daily life but too good to ignore

재즈는 언제나 좋은 것 같다. 특별히 좋은 곡은 없었지만 재즈의 분위기가 좋았다. I think jazz is always good. There were no particularly good songs, but the jazz atmosphere was good.

This is a 🔥 amazing album 9.8/10 it feels like a mix of great jazz songs all in one great album has funk some intensity every thing is smooth but chaotic love

Listened to this album 3 times over the course of a week. I can't decide whether i love it or just find it easily forgettable as background noise. i think that my reaction to a lot of the jazz on this list is that (the good albums at least) i enjoy the atmosphere created as it plays in the background. this album has a cool darkness to it, i would probably listen to more Charles Mingus as a result.

Maybe a hot take, but there are a couple of Mingus albums I prefer to this one. Nevertheless, this is a fantastic piece of music and a must-listen. It's 40 minutes of fascinatingly organized chaos. It's insanely memorable for something so complex. To anyone who wishes to explore further, I would recomend Mingus Ah Um and Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus.

First song sounds like a downtown intersection at rush hour and someone is gridlocking and everyone is laying on their horns. Definitely unpleasant. Track B is better at the beginning at least- it’s more melodic but then reverts back to rando noodling. Track C is fairly chill…..there’s a nice Spanish turnaround- then a big blurpy intersection again- I mean- it’s what is this? And track D is just like the rest only longer. Ok. I just hate this kind of wanky jazz. More normal jazz is fine. Wanky jazz, of which this is a prime example, is shite. It doesn’t swing, it doesn’t groove, it just makes you think “man, I’d really hate to be a traffic cop!” TWO STARS

I expected to hate this, because I don't like brass music, but I actually didn't, it was pretty cool, actually.

I'm sure it's great and influential. I am not a native jazz speaker

I can appreciate this is good but I found it boring

Man, Mingus was ahead of the curve as a creator of music in the Jazz Realm. His interweaving of improvisation in the jazz tradition with avant garde ideas is a combination that shows the future. Even today at 64 years old there is still much to learn from this creative genius’s output.

Awesome. The last track is an especially wild ride.

Respect

(4/7) unclear at which point they finished tuning and the music began

Відразу хочеться відзначити атмосферу кабаре. Не такого як в м’юзиклі «Чикаго» звичайно, а більш нетривіального та артистичного. Також додає, що досить великий склад музикантів, такий собі «біг бенд» для задротів. Ще дуже сподобались шматки «фламенко-джазу» чи як правильно ці españa-infused частини назвати.  Альбом тримає увагу, він досить динамічний, не зациклюється на якомусь патерні. Композиції розвиваються постійно і музикантів цікаво слухати. Кожна композиція має якісь експериментальні чи просто більш нетипові елементи, але потім все одно вони повертаються до основної, більш зрозумілої частини, та цей рух по спіралі мені дуже до вподоби.  

Мені завжди здавалось що елітарність джаза та "складність" цієї музики дуже переоцінена. Тим більше якщо мова йде про класичний джаз - він ніколи не був чимось елітарним і не задумувався таким, це просто музика певної форми й певних сенсів, зовсім не обов'язково бути музичним критиком чи ще кимось, щоб її любити. Але це я до чого - я дуже давно почав цікавитись джазом, напевно десь з 2007го року, коли я почав більш-менш досліджувати цей стиль. Але по-справжньому я полюбив жанр після того, як послухав Sketches Of Spain Майлза Девіса та Гіла Еванса, було в цій музиці щось несхоже на стандартний хардбоп. Але це я до чого [2] - загаданий альбом Мінгуса мені видається дуже нестандартним, навіть якщо брати усю безліч варіацій джазової музики, яка існувала у 50-60 роках. Це один з моїх улюблених альбомів у жанрі і на мою думку він може сподобатись тим, хто не любить джазєц або не цікавиться їм зовсім. Чого я власне згадав скетчес оф спейн - тут теж присутня оця південна атмосфера, яку важко якось сформулювати словами, але вона дуже органічно вплітається в основну канву, яку вигадав Мінгус (нагадаю - він переважно басист, але й композитор всього альбому). Вважається що це типу балет, але навіть якби ми того не знали, "візуальність" Black Saint дуже сильна, це музика яка буквально створює образи. Дуже фактурна і характерна. Можна тут ще додати цілий абзац про те якою цікавою особистістю був сам Мінгус, що нотатки до альбому писав його психотерапевт і так далі, але це не так важливо. Головне тут, це власне сама музика - суміш джазу, блюзу, якогось кабаре, "співучих" духових і навіть іспанської гітари. Треба ще сказати що структура композицій сильно відрізняється від класичного бібопу чи хардбопу. Так, у ті часи коли вже був фріджаз, когось здивувати складними структурами було неважко, втім саме таких альбомів дуже мало. Тим більше умовно "концептуальних". Мені на пам'ять приходить, наприклад Out Of The Cool того таки Гіла Еванса, але хоча там теж оркестр і теж музика досить кінематографічна, такого ефекту як Black Saint вона не викликає. І навіть якщо просто відкинути все це, тут купа топових мелодій, якщо взяти хоча б основні, навколо яких розвиваються всі 4 композиції - це прям топ і запам'ятовуються вони легко. Резюмуючи - я фанбой Мінгуса, а цього альбому тим більше.

Too frantic for me.

Stress

Really great composition

I finally really gave this the attention it deserves. Put the headphones in and just went in. I’ve always played it on the stereo before. There are real characters created! Horns and strings, themes and recurring motifs actually indicate a plot line! I had no idea. Mind blown 🤯 Mingus IS a GENIUS. Glad I put in the work.

Nice jazz

Hard to explain why I love it so much. This album, Charlie Haden’s Liberation Music Orchestra, Eddie Gale’s Ghetto Music, Archie Shepp’s albums. I love that mix of chaos and beauty. It’s like pure emotion expressed musically. More please.

Highlights: 2.6

So many things with a saxophone that I didn’t know you could do! I think I heard the trumpet talk at one point. The challenge for me with jazz is that it’s often improvised, which should make it exciting listening to what could come. Maybe it’s because certain sections repeat themselves so it doesn’t come off as fresh. Or that there are no lyrics so you have to really focus on multiple melodies instead of concentrating on one. However, it’s really cool hearing Charles Mingus and his band play with such skill that they can freely bounce off each other’s instruments. This album is ultimately refreshing when I need to hear form than structure in my music listening (3-3.5).

The best albums of jazz improvisaaaaa

Enjoyed it, good stuff

Reed introduced me to this album in second year, at a time when I was allergic to the influence of others. A tendency I still have, that I cover up by saying that my lateness is simply slowness of memory. A gorgeous ballet. That Spanish guitar solo on Mode D is PERFECTION. Feels like New York.

Eh

A short one, big fan of the genre so easy listening

Well the day has finally come that a jazz album isn't rated 3* for me. Maybe I'm finally "getting" jazz. Maybe by the end of this list I'll be a real jazz fanatic. I seemed to enjoy this album by Charles Mingus slightly more than the other jazz records in this list. I loved the structure that almost felt destined for a stage show. The tracks really take you on a journey that I really love. The build up in the final track is fantastic.

Well that was unexpected. I don't think I've ever listened to a whole Jazz album before so I didn't know what to expect. It was dark, moody, a little bit sexy, but full of atmosphere. One minute I wanted be be sat at a smokey bar drinking even smokier whisky, the next I wanted to be up and dancing. I think if I knew more about Jazz this would be a masterpiece. 4*

This album sounds like 4-5 guys were each in separate studios and told to play along to the music in their headphones, and none of the music in the headphones was the same. There's jazz I like and then there's this freeform stuff, which is what music would sound like if you taught housecats to play instruments.

Very dissonant especially if you are not a jazz lover, but amazing improv throughout over tough changes, which is typical for Mingus. Definitely worth a listen.

‘The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady’ is widely regarded as the masterpiece of Charles Mingus. It was released in 1963, which was perhaps Mingus's most creative year. During this period, he also recorded and released ‘Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus’ and ‘Mingus Plays Piano’. Musically, it is classified as 'Third Stream', a fusion of jazz and classical music. Even more than 60 years after its release, the album still feels avant-garde. There are hardly any successors to the album, not even from Mingus himself. Whilst he continued to work on a fusion of jazz and classical music, he never returned to this particular musical language. Free improvisations (or is it composed improvisations?) alternate with chamber music-style moments and big band sequences. With this album, Mingus set himself apart from his mentors, Dizzy Gillespie and Duke Ellington, whilst also creating a sound that was entirely different to that of John Coltrane or Miles Davis, for example. As unique as Mingus is, and as unique as this album is, I find it difficult to fully appreciate it. I like individual sequences, but the free-jazz passages leave me somewhat at a loss. There's simply too much happening at once for me to take it all in. Ultimately, it's perhaps another one of those great classics that everyone raves about but very few can truly understand or appreciate. It's a milestone, but like The Brothers Karamazov, it's a classic that I don't get much out of.

I don't like jazz

I'm not a modern jazz fan. I know this as one of the greats and my personal failing is that I don't like it. I'm not sure where to go from there. High repetition means I like it even less. I'm going to give it a 2 because I can hear the skill of the artists. Some of the early 3 songs are great a portion of the way through, and then fall off the rails for me.

Ei tullu ihan helppo jaskalevy ekaksi täältä, mut meikälle ainakin uppos kovasti! En ollu kuunnellu tätä Mingusia koskaan kokonaan ja tässä kuulu ihanasti tuulahduksia 60-luvun freesekoiluista, lattereiden noususta ja sitten ihan vanhanliiton swingeistä. Jää kuunteluun! 😍

Oli jazzia. Oli fuusiota (wikipedia kyl kerto et ei ollu 😌). Oli. Hienoja juttuja ja otti yllättäviä suuntia et kaikkea muuta kuin ennalta-arvatta, mut vähän liian kaaottinen ja työläs nyt äkkiseltään.

Miten löytäisin priit-prööt-musiikkia? MINÄKIN TAHTOISIN PRIITTISTÄ ja PRÖÖTTISTÄ! ;___; TAHTOISIN VAIN KUUNNELLA IHANUA PRUUTS JA PRÄÄTS -MUSSIIKKIA :33 VOITAIS ISTUA SOHVALLA JA KUUNNELLA LEVYKÄISIÄ JOISSA PIRISEE JA PÖRISEE KANSSA :3 SIT KUUNTELISIN PRUITS PRÄITS -LEVYJÄ JA IHAILISIN MUUSIKOIDEN PRÄYSH JA PRIUSH -TAITOJA :333 MIKS KAIKILLA MUILLA ON TORVIA JA TILUA MUT MULLA EI OO VAIK OON IHAN KIVA KAVERI ;___; VOI KUNPA MULLA OLIS KUNNON PRIISH PRÄÄSH. olispa tilirimpsis hilirömpsis <3 jammailisin kyllä sen pörö mörön tahtiin ja tekisin samalla pitsua ja sit kuuntelisin lisempää prööts krönks -mussiikkia netistä ja katselisin hauskoja jatsimuusikoitten tiluvideoita <3333 olispa plimps plomps -jatsia <3 vituttaa kun ei ole priittistä ja prööttistä ;___;

hyvvää jamssia

Well this is quite a lovely and soothing way to enter the week.

top 1001 albums and half of them are jazz apparently. this was fun but why are the songs sooooooo long (3.5)

Late-night sloppy drunk, stumbling somewhere between a sultry dream and a nervous breakdown.

fun listen even though i know nothing about jazz

I’m sure this is amazing … if you love jazz.

Quite enjoyable and fantastic musicianship but too 'classic jazz' for me

never has an album name and artist name been so mismatched in coolness

A work of genius. A masterpiece of 20th century composition. Not an easy listen per se. I appreciate the many on here who gave it a chance.

Liked it, but didn't love it. Kind of swaggy and old school, didn't love the spanish guitar sound but overall good!

Messy and noisy

i down't like him. I down't like him b/c i like when people sing not instrument and not his tipe

pretty sad and slow to me so i dont really like it i wouldnt recommend to others.

I like how smooth the song is. It's a pretty good album, maybe not my favorite, but still quite good. 3.5/5 stars.

I think it was pretty good, I like the instruments used in the songs. They showed different emotions.

I liked it, Nice music

Это неплохо

Nice, instrumental, fun. I’m not a big fan of instrumental music though :)

God DAMN, bro was cooking with this one. Unbelievable compositions here that combine ornate instrumentation with wild improvisation. Listened to this loud as fuck on the kitchen speaker while making muffins this morning, golly what a life.

4 tracks, exceptional quality

Uma bagunça incrivelmente organizará e orquestrada. Lembro de ouvir no começo da minha aventura no jazz, e achei caótico demais. Hoje, depois de ouvir um pouco mais de jazz, ouvi e gostei bastante. Não me pareceu “louco” como no início, fez mas sentido, deu pra sentir cada instrumento tinha um propósito em conjunto, e soou absolutamente harmônico aos meus ouvidos. Já estou ouvindo outros discos do Mingus, e creio que ele tenha sido um dos maiores do Jazz. Bom demais!

Too abstract for me and I enjoy the occasional jazz. The ear balance was off-putting. Highlight: mode D, cool unexpected classical guitar

Cool rhythmic jazz with a slightly unsettling vibe

I dig it.

Enjoyed on repeat.

malo too much za mene. objektivni dost dobro al nemrem jazz

Man this was great

This is a wonderful album. I didn't expect anything from it, but I ended up with one of the best jazz albums I've ever heard. The harmonies are amazing, and every song is captivating.

Overall Rating - 4.33/5 (8.75/10). Super album. Incredible jazz.

Very cool record, I'm gonna have to check out some more Mingus.

Que mundo maravilhoso é o jazz

Holy shit this rocks. Jazz so good I caught myself making a stank face IRL 4.5/5

This album is really interesting in the way it mixes experimental jazz (so delightful and played by such virtuous artists) with some elements of flamenco. I've been truly amazed by the whole of it. I must admit I wasn't quite in at the beginning, but it has been a great experience in the end, so enjoyable and stimulating. It's a great album, so full of details and beautiful moments.

Did not listen

Very nice🔥🧊

This is a jazz album originally intended to be the soundtrack to a ballet, and is widely regarded as one of the best jazz recordings ever. This album is completely out of my wheelhouse, I don’t listen to jazz and don’t know enough of the nuances of the genre to give it the respect it most likely deserves. There was a lot of cool stuff on here, including a lot of Flamenco guitar, which you don’t hear much of in jazz. Most of the time this album was just a wall of sound to my untrained ears; it’s very noisy. I’ll give it a 3/5

Incredible album. The music flows beautifully from one section to the next. Just when you think it's calming down, it's starts up again. At no point is this dull or uninteresting or uneventful. There's always something bubbling away or in your face. Astonishing, really.

Wow, that was great. I'm not always feeling jazzy but as a straight up cacophony, this was wonderful. Sustained and perpetual chaos!

Really enjoyable album. Weird but still grounded. The music actually stood out, which doesn't always happen for me with jazz.

yeah loved it

Damit kann ich nichts anfangen.