Siamese Dream

6/10. Buen disco, un rock ligerito y fácil de digerir. El sonido es un poco monótono, pero aún así es agradable. La letra no la juzgo, pero como las líricas forman gran parte de las canciones baja puntos, aún así se sienten con contenido.

I should like this but I really don't. I don't get The Smashing Pumpkins - never have, never will His voice is awful and this was boring and whiny 2 ⭐️

I'd forgotten how grunge-adjacent (but also stylistically varied!) the Smashing Pumpkins could be

(4/7) I think the singles are strong but the rest of this feels like someone wailing over a soup of distorted guitars

No es tanto de mi gusto. Pero debo decir que tienen buenas canciones.

Buncha chords, slugs crossing the patio. Heaps of fuzz, wail and eyes-closed busker caterwaul, dynamic as porridge. 11th song has a swear in its title to signify it’s the one with a riff. Shorter than Big Melons, small mercy. Still too long.

The well-known tracks are surrounded by interminably overlong prog/grunge noise and whinings; starts well enough though. Corgan's voice and guitar tone don't sit well with me for the long haul.

I had never listened to The Smashing Pumpkins before listening to this, and even then, I had only heard of them within the past year or two. I actually thought a lot of this album was really good. It wasn't really my taste, but I appreciated the music nevertheless. There were obviously some that I wasn't really a fan of, but I think 'Disarm' really stood out to me. I don't really enjoy this heavier genre usually, but I love it when different styles get experimental and incorporate different ideas. The strings in this song were beautiful, and I really enjoyed it. The vocals throughout the whole album aren't really as heavy and 'rough' as you'd expect with this style of music, and I thought that the vocals were actually really nice from start to finish. I think that this is quite a lengthy album, which meant my attention wasn't always on form throughout. I think this was slightly too long for a top-to-bottom album listen, but overall, I thought the album was okay. Also, they spelt Mayonnaise wrong. Not on. Stand-outs: Disarm Hummer Mayonaise Today

One that I used to own. Includes my favourite song Disarm. Really enjoyed this trip down memory lane.

Love this album. First song opener cherub rock is amazing. Heard it so many times but it’s so good

Awesome

Mostly don't get this - although Disarm is pretty good. For me at least it got better towards the end. The first few tracks made me think "this is like whiner Nirvana".

heck yeah man

Actually perfect. really scratched my 90s grunge/alternative itch I've had recently. Today was my fav song and first listen of the album. My other highlights were Soma and Mayonaise

Solid album

Very long. Got fed up with vocal store.

I was surprised at how little the songwriting on this album spoke to me compared to Mellon Collie. I struggled to find a route into the record, whereas with the follow up, several songs immediately peaked my interest. The aesthetic is cool, I love the passion, but this will not be my go to smashing pumpkins record.

Another 4 for Smashing Pumpkins, great record, not quite blowing me away but easy to get lost in with lots of grungy angst and dark beauty

Not my cup of tea but I understand why it’s part of this list

backlog listening on 10/20/26 look. i get that in the story / scene of rock music, all of these '90s bands were like huge and influential and the happening thing. and i get taht if i had been at a formative age at the time and life was great because i was put out to pasture every afternoon by my parents to roam the neighborhood on bikes with my friends and get up to no good and i needed an outlet for angst and rage because life was actually pretty good, then this music would be the bomb dot com. but in the scheme of music why the fuck do i need to listen to so many variations of angst-flavored beige-colored grunge rock? it's hard to care about this being world-rocking when i live in a world ubiquitously rocked by grunge. it's not the grungy underground rage outlet that it was back then, it's just like normal nondescript house party background music. is this more worth listening to before i die than czech disco? absolutely not.

Review - stone cold classic. Elaborate, psychedelic without being boring and wanky, heavy, melodic. No one sings anything like Billy Corgan but his voice just works for their music. This is the only Smashing Pumpkins album I come back to on a regular basis from start to finish, it's a flawless piece of art. A shame Billy Corgan is a bit weird about UFOs and stuff but as far as sudden turns from '90s musicians go it's not so bad. Score - 10/10 Need to listen? YES

punkin

this is objectively a great album. one thing i really love are the somewhat subtle orchestral elements in a lot of the songs. when it's electric the guitar tone is perfect, but specifically in the acoustic tracks i think the orchestra brings so much. billy corgan's vocals are definitely not for everybody, but i think even if you don't like them it's hard not to appreciate all the other stuff there is to offer. favorite tracks: disarm, spaceboy, luna

One of the classics of the 90s. What's interesting to me on a personal level is that while this is less grunge and borrows more from shoegaze and the like (which is right up my alley), I never went gaga over this album. It is great, but it's a 4, not a 5 for me.

I mean it’s an absolute banger, and that’s all I’ve got to say

My favourite album of all time.

4.5

Guess its an okay album. Maybe if i listened to it when it first came out my overall rate wouldve been higher. It has couple songs that i enjoyed like Mayonaise and Today but other not for me.

14 year old me heard Disarm on my click radio and road my bike to Tower Records and I bought this album. I took it to my friend's house where we lay on a floor spliting a beer we stole from her mom listening to this album. This time I listened to it while answering annoying emails and team chats. I wish I was laying on the floor sharing a beer with my best friend, it was a better listening experience. For me, this is a 5, maybe you had to be there to understand, but this album is good.

Cherub Rock is an all-time banger. The guitar riff will make the hair on your neck stand up. But look, I didn’t really like these guys when they were hot in the 90s and Billy Corgan has proven himself to be at least a relative of the guy I always kind of thought he was so…🤷‍♂️

Theyre definitely not for me. Every song feels the same and ım so bored. Maybe haf i given myself fully id think different but anyway its not the time :/

Almost three

Want to address a couple of things: 1. To the people who can’t stand Corgan’s voice I get it, it’s an acquired taste. But consider for a moment other alt rock singers of the 90s. Cornell, Cobain, Rossdale, Vedder, etc. could you imagine any of these guys singing the songs on Siamese Dream? No, because these are Billy’s songs, and his voice is the one they’re supposed to be heard from. 2. The recording process This is a fantastic story and also very Corgan. It is true that he wrote and performed all of the instrumental parts on SD except the drums and cello. It wasn’t because he didn’t like James and Darcy or that he didn’t trust them to get it right, it was that he had such an artistic vision for the album that it’s nearly a solo project between him and Butch Vig. The famous layering (of allegedly up to 100 guitars on soma) and creation of the wall of sound was a Butch creation, and in interviews he describes the vision and cohesiveness that Billy came in with being very strong and fleshed out, with Butch adding in his signature wall of sound and other production magic to create an insanely polished album. This was not the norm of the day. Alternative rock was in its infancy, but your Nirvanas and Pearl Jams who were leading the way eschewed the success and “commercial” polish in favor of rougher, rawer lofi-esque garage rock. That unpolished, unrefined sound was more “credible” in the rock scene at the time, rather than selling out and sounding all glossy and put together. Letting the ends hang out was part of the appeal in the grunge era. Corgan and the Pumpkins chose a different path- following more in the vein of the Pixies with a harder edge and a killer loud/soft dynamic than your Velvet Underground type of alternative the grunge guys were doing. And it worked. The album sold like hotcakes and propelled them to stardom. If you enjoy this album, you should listen to their 1993 album release concert from the Metro in Chicago on YouTube. When the loud notes of soma first hit, you can see Billy’s transition to being a rock star for the first time. It’s an electric moment when everything is clicking, and the Pumpkins have finally arrived. Easiest 5 stars of my life. An important album, and one of my top 3 all time that never sounds old, and I never get tired of. The back end does get a bit soft and mushy, but I haven’t heard those songs in a while- listening to the entire thing as a singular product really affirmed my love for the album all over again. The album that launched a million big muff pedals. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Good music dragged down by the annoying voice of the singer

Not dissimilar to Mellon Collie in that, it's all largely "solid-to-good" and then there's a single track that absolute flies ("Disarm" here, "Tonight, Tonight" there). When they're at their peak, they're very VERY good indeed.

Not listened to much SP before. You can hear how influential a lot of this album is for future genres - especially things like pop/punk and rock. Guitar work is killer, Billy Corgan’s vocals are lacking especially in respect to other alt / grunge bands of the time. Lots to be admired on this. Soma and Luna standout tracks.

3/4 border. Had a bit of a Nirvana knockoff style but liked it well enough

Too 10 album from the 90s.

Pas ma came

Iconic. Pity Corgan is a wanker.

Another one that I own, but haven't played for a long time. It was good to reacquaint myself with it before putting it away for another couple of decades.

I had hoped we would get something significant for our 333rd record. Thirty-three and a third: the speed of the LP and perhaps the most significant number in recorded music. Billy Corgan would have appreciated the coincidence. His career is littered with numbers. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness would eventually contain Thirty-Three. Later there would be 99 Floors and 999, fragments of a proposed trilogy that never quite materialised. The sessions for Mellon Collie would be archived as The 666 Tapes. And, of course, he himself is Zero. Numerology, Christianity, tarot, astrology: all the things people find irritating about Billy Corgan have always been there. Pisces Iscariot reveals him as an astrology girly almost before anyone asked him about it. The Greatest Hits compilation Judas O folds biblical symbolism into self-mythology. Even the first Smashing Pumpkins song, I Am One, opens with an appeal to trinity and messiah: "I am one as you are three." One has to concede that it is all a bit insufferable. Yet it is remarkable how uniquely insufferable it is deemed to be. Nick Cave's biblical obsessions become mythopoeia. Dylan's become prophetic. Prince's become eccentricity. Corgan's become evidence against him. And, partly, this is his own fault. He talks too much. He is defensive, competitive and thin-skinned. But partly it is because he occupies a peculiar position in rock history. He is not simply uncool. He is a failed cool subject. Alternative culture, despite all its rhetoric about outsiders, possessed an extraordinarily rigid economy of legitimacy. It was never a culture for outsiders in general. It was a culture for approved outsiders. One could be vulnerable, but not needy. One could be ambitious, but only if ambition masqueraded as accident. One could suffer, but only if suffering appeared unbidden rather than communicated. Billy Corgan failed every one of these tests. Indeed, one could argue that he was alternative culture's Jungian shadow. Billy loves Jung too. So I would hope he sees how everything alternative culture disavowed returned in him. Naked ambition. Technical virtuosity. Emotional excess. Spiritual yearning. Grandiosity. An inability to disguise the desire to be loved. Alternative culture claimed to be a refuge for misfits, but Corgan was the misfit who could not be assimilated. And this is the paradox at the centre of Siamese Dream. Although Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness would become the big seller, Siamese Dream remains the great Smashing Pumpkins album because it captures the moment before self-mythology fully crystallised. The numerology recedes. The esotericism retreats. The grandiosity remains latent rather than explicit. What remains is pain. On a recent podcast appearance, Courtney Love retold her advice to Corgan in 1992, that he should abandon the vague spiritualism of Gish and say something meaningful instead. Whether she deserves sole credit for the suggest of the record is irrelevant. The advice feels true because Siamese Dream is astonishingly direct. Or as direct as Corgan can be. Suddenly, Corgan is writing about his childhood abuse, depression, social alienation, his mentally ill mother, his developmentally challenged brother, and his failed relationship with Love herself. The effect is almost embarrassing in its juvenile openness. And embarrassment is, in fact, central to understanding Billy Corgan. Embarrassment is what occurs when effort becomes visible. It is not only the connection with Love that make comparisons with Kurt Cobain unavoidable. Corgan himself made them repeatedly. Upon hearing Nevermind on Butch Vig's boombox, he reportedly realised that someone had solved the problem before he had: how to translate alternative rock into mass culture without sacrificing credibility. But the challenge was not merely commercial, it was ontological. How does one become a rock star while pretending not to want to be one? Cobain answered this perfectly. Corgan never could. Cobain may well have possessed the more acute pop sensibility. He understood hooks instinctively. Yet he also possessed something more valuable to alternative culture than songwriting ability: he could inhabit reluctance. Everything about him communicated effortless legitimacy. The face. The voice. The demeanour. Even his refusal of celebrity generated more celebrity. Detachment itself became charismatic. Nothing equivalent was available to Corgan: whiny voice, gangly frame, lame influences. What he had instead was labour. It is everywhere on Siamese Dream. The dozens of guitar overdubs. The meticulous arrangements. The almost excessive precision. Everything is overdetermined because everything must be. Imagine if Corgan had possessed Cobain's voice. Much of this labour would have been unnecessary. Cobain could allow ambiguity because ambiguity was already emotionally charged by his presence. The grain of his voice communicated suffering before a lyric had even been parsed. Indeed, anything more direct than his avoidant, fragmentary, ironic lyrics would have been gilding the lily. He only gets away with it on Something in the Way, for example, because it is a one note melody. And then again on Where Did You Sleep Last Night because it is someone else's song. The trappings of expression are unnecessary. But Corgan had no such luxury. His is a thin, hysterical, imploring voice. It never stops asking to be understood. And perhaps this is why people recoiled from it. Not because it is weak, but because it is too exposed. There is too little irony protecting it. Rock culture inherited from Romanticism a suspicion of visible effort. The artist is expected to channel rather than construct, reveal rather than manufacture. Yet Corgan manufactures revelation. This is the source of his persistent uncoolness. Rock culture fetishises authenticity but distrusts labour. We mistake ease for truth. We celebrate spontaneity while suppressing the fact that selves are constructed. Corgan makes that construction visible. The irony is almost unbearable. Cobain, whose music frequently embraced irony, collage and fragmentation, becomes the authentic figure; Corgan, who painstakingly explains his pain and perfects every detail around it, is dismissed as too theatrical. When people accused Corgan of being excessive, they were not entirely wrong. He was excessive. He played too much, sang too much, explained too much and cared too much. But that is because excess itself was his method. The album's immense sound is not domination but communication. Every overdub is an attempt to make himself understood. Even his notorious studio dictatorship can be reinterpreted this way. The replacement of bandmates, the obsessive perfectionism and the endless explanations all stem from the same source. The desire is not simply control, but comprehensibility. He wants to remove every obstacle between himself and the listener. The abused child who wants to be hugged by somebody. The tragedy is that many interpreted the effort itself as evidence of inauthenticity. And perhaps that tragedy only became more pronounced with time. There is another, darker asymmetry between Corgan and Cobain: cool, ultimately, is a practice of withholding. It is not merely detachment but strategic unavailability. The cool subject always retains a remainder. Something inaccessible. Something that cannot be entirely possessed. Cobain understood this instinctively (him always instinct; Corgan always study). His songs withheld. His interviews withheld. His celebrity was marked by withdrawal. One hesitates to reduce biography to symbolism, but it is difficult to ignore the terrible finality of his death in these terms. By taking his own life, Cobain performed the ultimate act of withholding: the permanent withdrawal of future meaning, future work and future explanation. This is not why he became mythological. But it is inseparable from the mythology that followed. The absent figure can no longer embarrass himself, he can only be perfect. He's the saint, while Corgan, on the 2018 world tour, builds a saint's icon of himself - irony at last. But, for Cobain, there will be no awkward middle age. No failed experiments. No misjudged interviews. No possibility of becoming uncool. Death freezes charisma. And alternative culture has repeatedly demonstrated its preference for the disappeared artist. Cobain. Layne Staley. Chris Cornell. Scott Weiland. The list begins to look less like a coincidence and more like an unconscious structure. The generation's heroes become ghosts. Corgan alone remains. Or, at least, he remains conspicuously. His great refusal has been the refusal to disappear. This should be unremarkable, but within rock culture it is almost an act of defiance. Survival exposes one to time, and time is profoundly unromantic. It means contradiction, repetition, pettiness and resentment. It means becoming a person rather than remaining a symbol. It means becoming old. Perhaps this is why Corgan eventually learned to withhold too. Albums disappear from streaming services. Zeitgeist remains absent. Zwan remains inaccessible. The Machina reissue was endlessly delayed. Chicago Kid stays locked away in the vault. But this withholding doesn't reads as mystery, it reads as bitterness. Because Corgan was never cool. The gesture remains identical while the social meaning changes entirely. Withholding only works once cool has been secured. Scarcity only acquires value once abundance has been granted. Bowie could disappear because Bowie had already become myth. Corgan cannot become myth because he never stopped insisting upon his own presence. He kept talking. He kept releasing. He kept archiving. He kept explaining. He kept surviving. Stop talking, Billy! This, perhaps, is the final paradox of Billy Corgan. The artist most criticised for excess was simply refusing the prestige of absence. His peers became ghosts. He remained a man. And perhaps that is why Siamese Dream remains so singular. It is the moment before he understood that this was a losing battle. The press and his peers attacked him after the album. And, whether he had run out of pain or decided that sharing wasn't worth it, he changed tone on future records. Mellon Collie is filled with nostalgia, Adore with esotericism, Machina with myth-making fantasy. He had to make his own concept album myths, because he was denied entrance to the myth of alternative culture. He emotional openness became creative openness, releasing double albums and albums of outtakes as good as any official release. That would dry up eventually. And, by the new millennium, he would turn to a different lyrical style, a form of occult channelling - unlike the ironic, cast-off channelling of his contemporaries, it was worthy, impenetrable, humourless. His voice too changed. He took lessons, he dropped consonants, he barely screamed. Because, as clear and honest and authentic as he was on Siamese Dream, understanding could not be won through sheer force of communication. You had to have something else, some unknown, unnamed quality that some people have, but that most of us don't. Billy Corgan is not cool. The tragedy of Billy Corgan is not that he cared too little, but that he cared too much. And in a culture that increasingly canonised disappearance, that may have been the least cool thing he could possibly have done. He had to live with embarrassment and falling off and failure. But I happen to think that's pretty cool. 5 I hardly ever sit down and listen to Siamese Dream. Did I ever? I think I mostly listened to it standing up, really loud with a guitar strapped around me (Soma to tune up). I haven’t even sat down this weekend to listen to it, so far; we’ve been over in England for a few days and it’s been a busy one. We have travelled to see Kenneth Branagh on stage in The Tempest; a production which, as it turns out, features a Wizard’s Curtain which falls to the ground at the end. I won’t tell you how much we paid altogether to see behind that one. I will give Siamese Dream a listen when I get home, of course, but I dare say I know it well enough from back in the day to write a few words in the run up. In my head Siamese Dream has a juvenile quality. This partly emerges from the nostalgia of its central place in my own first foray into rock music outside of my dad’s records when I was very young. Also because its musical identity is embodied in its bluntly heroic rock gestures - quiet bits that give way, in a sudden explosion, to Awesome Fuzzy Bits; Awesome widdley guitar solos; galloping drums and Billy Corgan delivering each ridiculous lyric with committed melodrama; having the greatest day he’s ever known, fulfilling promises made of tin, getting expelled from paradise and what not. It also has happy little kids on the cover. Whatever negativity, despair, or anger lurks in the lyrics it has always felt like a profoundly optimistic record; a duality most powerfully embodied in Disarm. Perhaps I don’t put it on often because it is ‘a bit much’ - consistently making emotional appeal to and demands of the listener where Mellon Collie’s pageantry feels more detached and so Siamese Dream’s hour can feel longer and heavier than Mellon Collie’s two. Adore is more like it in a way. There’s the contrary twin of Siamese Dream - the light giving way to darkness - and another heavy hour for whose power I have so much respect that I almost never bother myself with trying to listen to it in its entirety anymore. The last time I listened to Siamese Dream all the way through was downstairs in Voodoo a few years ago. Someone behind the bar just stuck it on. Cherub Rock hardly registered until Quiet followed it. ‘Daft idea,’ I thought. Well I sat there for the whole thing and fairly lapped it up. Poor whoever I was with that might have meant to have a conversation with me, almost certainly poor Fiona. Anyway it’s Sunday evening now - an unusually sunny one, filling me with optimism for the weekend ahead - and we’re just home from the airport. Let’s get Siamese Dream on here now and confirm that it is, after all, ‘a bit much’, bestowing on it afterwards a mark fitting of an album of juvenile - perhaps naive - musical gestures by a band who would, by my reckoning, do better than this on their next two, (also) fatally excessive, albums. ‘The hour’s now come/ The very minute bids thee ope thine ear;/ Obey, and be attentive. Canst thou remember/ A time before we came unto this cell?’ (The Tempest, I.ii.36-39) Oh dear oh dear oh dear, it’s just tremendous. 5/5

I expected this to be a female artist based on the cover - nonetheless i’m enjoying it!

Greaaat 4/5

Billy's voice, ugh. Billy's personality, double ugh. I will groove to "Cherub Rock" and "Mayonnaise" is the only SP song in my personal music library so I can't deny there are some great moments here.

i kept putting this off because i love the smashing pumpkins but i did have to be honest that only two tracks stood out to me from this album specifically

Grunge is such a good genre!

Huge guitar tones, hugely influential in its day, still not exactly my cup of tea. Still I like it more than a lot of the three stars I’ve given out.

Pretty solid stuff here. Not an enormous fan of the voice, but I do think that it it fits the subject matter and music pretty well. It gets a little distorted for me here and there, but there are also some great riffs and nice melodies. 3.5

Not sure if I buy this being on a shortlist for greatest album ever but it goes hard and actually has a guitar-forward sound and actual guitar solos which appears to be unusual for the era. It's obviously a moody album but it doesn't sink into being a terrible listening experience which is a mistake a lot of American bands from this time seem to be making (see: Nine Inch Nails). Pain for the sake of pain means an auditory nightmare and that its time to take your meds; pain as a means to a greater end for your art means critical acclaim and $$$

Probably my favorite grunge era album, Billy Corgan is one of the few whinier vocalists I actually like. This album has more Crunch than the Cap'n and I'm here for it

Très bon album. Une sonorité riche et des thème abordé touchant. Très maîtriser. 8/10

Amazing Amazing Amazing!!!!! Love this album.

All time great album. Would be any other bands best album, but SP also did Mellon Collie

First Songs I thought it would be an okay album but the long the album went the more I enjoyed it

Better than I expected, to be honest.

Punk/alt rock. Liked the guitar tones.

This album absolutely rocks, start to finish. I was familiar with a few tracks that I really like but I was unaware that the rest of the album is just as good. An insane tracklist with so many bangers. The drums and guitar just sound so fantastic - Billy's voice is undoubtedly a little bit marmite but I am fully on board with it and it conveys so much emotion. Favourites: All of it

This is the kind of album they play in thrift shops way too loud and I’ve trained myself to drown it out lest I be overstimulated. Which doesn’t bode well for my ranking of this album but I’ll try to be fair. I kind of liked it !! I like the sound but nothing stood out to me. A part of me wants to listen to it more and a part of me wants to not bother with it again and that internal battle lands this album at a 2 for now I’m afraid.

Fav song: Tonight

This is a tremendously impactful album in my musical journey. When I started listening to rock radio in the 90s, Mellon Collie hadn't come out yet, and to my Foo Fighters and Chili Peppers were all the rage, but artistically the Pumpkins stood out much higher and I became hooked with their music. I even remember that Rocket was one of the first MP3s I downloaded on Napster (after Weezer's El Scorcho of course), took like 3hrs to do so. Doesn't matter how many times i've listened to Today, Disarm and Mayonaise, they're incredible songs and not really the best of the album... well... maybe Mayonaise is. My favorites were always Cherub Rock and Rocket, but later I gravitated and stayed with Hummer. The youthfull curiosity of the lyrics, the metal influences, the sound of the drums, the fuzz of the guitar and how the bass blends into everything seamlessly. I've named about half of the songs, then there's Quiet, Soma and Luna, an amazing closer. I hadn't revisited the whole album in a long long time and in retrospect, it's as good as Mellon Collie.

Fantastic. One of the best albums of the ‘90’s.

some great freaking tunes on this guy

Cherub Rock is such an awesome opener.

Enjoyed listening to this.

A perfect album, they’ve got such a unique approach to rock. Even down to the way their guitars sound, it’s all satisfyingly melancholy, with some incredible amped up songs too that gave me energy

Okay. Fine

Awesome

Grunge is not a genre I can listen to for more than an hour or so and the Smashing Pumpkins make 2+hr long albums. Not bad but hard to listen to for 2+hrs straight.

listening to this on a rainy night changed my life

Iconic ‘90s album - Billy Corgan’s emotional vocals on topics of trauma and abuse

6/10 Bueno, pero flojo en algunas cosas, una de las ultimas canciones termina de una manera malisima con ruidos horribles. Le doy un 6 porque el resto no estuvo mal

immaculate vibe for college reunion; have never listened to an album before and a real pleasant surprise

Beautifully captures the feeling of early 90s american youth. Much like Rush’s Signals in did in 83. I shall be freeeeeeeeeeeeee

One of those bands that you're supposed to know but I can't say I'd ever actually listen to them that much. Enjoyed making their acquaintance and I certainly understand why it's received the status that it has, emblematic of the period

Que un álbum dure 2 horas y 17 minutos debería ser ilegal

This album is great. Billy Corgan needs more cresit

Smashing Pumpkins is my favorite band....this album is just so good. I listened two it three times while I picked up trash.

Meines Eindruckes nach machen Smashing Pumpkins besseren Grunge als Nirvana, das Albums ar definitiv eine sehr gute Expirience.

excellent

Fav one by smashing pumpkins

Great rock music and Luna was my personal favourite

good stuff

Rlly cool. Gives massive male manipulator vibes tho

I came of age in the 90s, and obviously I know who the Smashing Pumpkins are, but somehow I had never heard this album in full until now. I enjoyed it, but not as much as I was hoping. It started off really strong - first four tracks are all bangers - and then it was more hit and miss after that. "Quiet" and "Geek U.S.A." were the highlights for me, "Quiet" in particular sounded like a band trying to write a Soundgarden song but screwed it up (complimentary). Both tracks that were primarily acoustic and strings were a little over-the-top/weepy for me, and the length and build-up of "Silverfuck" never paid off for me. I did like this overall, but I was more than ready for it to be over by the time it ended.

Topppppp!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats my!!!!

Kind of generic but enjoyable enough.

Yeah man, the 90s!! The guitars and drums are yummy but the voice... grating

Great album.

I never really got The Smashing Pumpkins. There's some decent songs here but I'll probably never listen to this album by choice.

i just about like it as a whole, a lot of it blends together but it's really got some gems stuffed in there. Cherub Rock is a real trip, Disarm sneaks up on you. favorite might be Luna? soft 4

Rating: 10/10 Masterpiece. Maybe the greatest example of pure concentrated 90's Alternative Rock (along with Radiohead). Loved this whole album when I was in high school, still love it in full now, funny how it's mostly just 90's alt rock albums that applies to, probably because it was some of my only decent taste back then. So many fantastic songs, even the weaker run of Spaceboy-Silverfuck-Sweet Sweet I love all of. Has at least three alt rock classics. The best part is the guitar tone and sound that's achieved, the songs are accessible but also densely layered and fuzzzzy like makes you go hell yeah guitar pedals rule. Total sucker for this shoegaze-adjacent sound. I don't understand the Billy Corgan vocal hate I think it's a straight up good element of 90's Smashing Pumpkins. All around love it, it's not my absolute favorite entry of this genre but it's up there.

Sick alb with a super cool sedated type of sound. Maybe a little one-note throughout, but overall it's a great composition of songs, and the hits are obviously awesome to have. Lit opener, Today is sick, the whole album is just dang enjoyable 8.0/10

Quintessential 90s grunge album, really enjoyed it

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Good

The base album is 4/5. It dragged on too long.

Didn't blow me away.

Nope

Like it

awesome

Starts with a fantastic banger and nice riffing, afterwards it sometimes lacks energy for the full album, especially in the voice. Still enjoyable!

Not a massive fan of his voice but like a few of their hits

Music that sounds edgy but isn't, for people who think they're edgy but aren't. This album left an empty impression on me, kind of like Billy Corgan's voice. I'll remark that Primus did not make the list of 1001; there's an edgy 90s band that you must hear. Forget this.

30 years later, still sounds incredible. Not the largest grunge fan – maybe this is the best of what grunge could be. Melodic, haunting and just not a weak second.

Fuzzzzz

I think I found a SP album I really like! It's fuzzy (still a bit whiny but love the big fuzz) (8.1) ★★★★

I haven't liked other Smashing Pumpkind albums, but this is incredible. 4.5 stars

4.5/5

Much like Samson in the bible, Billy Corgan was better when he had hair. Here Billy's excursions into goth metal are kept at bay and you get a dreamy alt-rock classic. The fuzz tones are incredible and the solos soar. But also, Billy's songwriting was at it's peak. "Cherub Rock", "Today", "Disarm", "Mayonaise" are all incredible, and the deeper cuts are really good too. 5 stars.

3.5

Good album. Real cool classic 90s guitars and not too whiny unlike their double opus after this Mellon Badger And The Infinite Badgers. Highlights - Cherub Rock and Hummer. Still a bit too long though. I would cut one of the Siamese twins in half so the album was three quarters of its current length and rename the album Siamese Badger. The episode of Simpsons where the band feature in the Badgerpalooza festival with Homer still remains their best achievement followed by Cherub Rock appearing the 2007 rhythm game Badger Hero and then this.

5.5 - Legendary This is a top contender for best album on the list. Sooooo fucking good.

Probably their best single album, though I still have a softer spot regarding the expansive Mellon Collie. High 4s

Muito bom!!!!

If i was 10 years younger / in a different headspace i might be able to connect more to it - might give this another listen though

When to listen: a hazy almost fall day in the cornfields. Really enjoyed the range of this album. Good listen.

Today was the first Smashing Pumpkins song i remember hearing and remains one of my favourites. It manages to be both very guitar heavy and melodic at the same time. Disarm brings a more orchestral feel that foreshadows the epic Mellon Collie and Infinite Sadness. I like how Soma continues the quiet reflection only for Geek USA to grab you and shake you awake once more.

I didn’t hate this as much as I expected. Which, given its score, tells you how much I was expecting to hate it.

Another separating art from artist album for me. Billy Corgan has some really, really, really weird ideas and has been on Alex Jones' InfoWars program multiple times (all pre-$1.4 billion defamation trial, so I'll give him that at least, but Alex has always been an asshole). But I'm trying to ignore that for this purpose. One of the big issues I have with this album is that it contains Today and Disarm, both of which are, in my opinion, head and shoulders above anything else on the album. They are both genuinely great songs. The rest of the album, I can pretty much take or leave. Billy does objectively have a pretty odd voice, but it sort of suits a lot of this. The distorted guitar tone starts to get a bit much over the full album, as every song ends up sounding quite similar - someone needed to buy James Iha some different pedals. It's mostly a little bit dull with two absolute standouts. 3/5

Génial, incroyable perf vocale de Billy Corgan, très influent, un modèle pour le son de l’époque

i think its nice background noise when you're feeling in a i want to be calm but in a grungy way

I normally hit the mayo space boy and silverfick trio only 😂

One of my all time faves. Hands down.

Quintessential 90s grunge rock. The SP sound is evocative of the time and of the albums that follow this one.

I was surprised how much I love this—the superb guitar licks with driving bass and percussion, and the lyrics and rhythm solid and very grunge—but then Billy Corgan's nasal whine smashes that beautiful pumpkin. I can imagine this being the soundtrack to the old NBC Letterman show's tossing of objects from the top of a skyscraper, graceful and wonderful until it hits the pavement. That's what Corgan's voice does to the music and prevents this from being a 5 for me. Maybe Larry "Bud" Melman would have been better?

Love this album. Might just have multiple of the greatest riffs of all time (Mayonnaise! also Today, Cherub Rock and more). I love how dense the production is. Feels like being suffocated with textures, but everything sounds so rich and amazing that you don't even mind. The guitar tones are awesome and they really use some of the noisier sounds to their benefit, the way they make some room for the melody whenever each chorus hits. Geek USA is a crazy underrated song from here, I love the sharp drums and the transitions between the loud and quiet sections. I would say the album gets weaker after track 9, but picks up right with the last song Luna. What a closer, makes you feel like you're floating away into space.

loved it

Musically interesting but that one note whining from billy corgan is intolerable

A couple five star songs

Banger after banger, wow. I barely know the band and the subject they tackle, but whatever, this was great.

I think this album is overrated. It mashes too many styles, sometimes in the same song. It sounds like walking through suburbia. I think it might take many repeat listens to grow on you. I do get the mood from the music though and it is cohesive. I wonder if you only had this CD, I think you would play it all the time driving around (if you lived in the suburbs) and I think it would come to signify a time in your life, and you would love it. I admire Billy Corgan's ambition. His voice is not that great but layered with these specific guitars, it does make a lovely noise.

Entiendo que pueda gustar, y también se que con el tiempo me va a empezar a copar más, pero tampoco la pavada. La expectativa me hace pensar que en forma de chiste es una verga masiva.

it's good !

Pretty okay, the hit is really a hit but kinda drags

Some of my favorite songs are from the Pumpkins, but I never tried to listen to a whole album. So I was looking forward to this, but surprised to find that I REALLY dislike most of their songs. But when they get it right, they really do get it right! Disarm is a standout songs. Soma, Mayonnaise, and Spaceboy are also good.

I love this album, but I think the score is more “vibe” based and nostalgia…until another truly great song comes on.

Candy-coated buzzsaws. Hyper-melodic shoegaze ice cream. So overstimulating that you know the vision at the center is maniacal. As a teenager I didn’t realize how absolutely bonkers the guitars sound except that I could feel them in my bones. I remember a friend taking the CD out of his backpack in the tennis team locker room. What was this album with the cover that was decidedly un-macho? This was a rock band? I had a VHS tape I used to record the musical performances from SNL, since I didn’t have MTV, and I watched the performance of ‘Today’ over and over again to learn the guitar parts. Then my band played it in our church’s gym. I learned ‘Cherub Rock’ from an issue of Guitar World magazine; watched the ‘Disarm’ video at my best friends house; this album was everywhere, and deservedly so. Billy Corgan is the kind of guy you can never give notes to, because he’s already thought through every possible thing you could say to him and knows the answer already. For better and worse. The highs are supersonic, earth-shattering orange explosions. But the album does eventually wear you down and the lesser songs drag the runtime about 12 minutes longer than it needs to be.

Just try to un-hear the Cheap Trick influence.

Always thought I would enjoy the Smashing Pumpkins and indeed I did, albeit maybe just a tad grungy for me 🙂

I can't think what to say for this. Yep, I really enjoyed it. "Smashing."

J'étais deçu de moi-même d'avoir mis que 4 à Melon Collie mais honnêtement cet album est meilleur dans l'ensemble et plus constant. Je pense que Melon Collie a quand même des higher highs mais forcément le double album peut pas être à 100% parfait. Mayonnaise est DIVIN. J'adore cet album et je suis ravi d'envoyer un 5 1) Mayonnaise 2) Cherub Rock 3) Today Mais tous les sons sont excellent au minimum

Nice! Haven't listened to this album from start to finish in ages. I real treat to be able to go back and revisit this. I used to listen to the Pumpkins a lot in my youth. Time to queue up some more!

There's a few songs on here that I'm familiar with, and I've always liked the sound of them. I think I like the Smashing Pumpkins more than some of the other grunge and grunge-adjacent bands of the 90's. The smoky guitars and sunburned vocals are just a cool sound. Favorite track: probably "Today"

Feels like reminiscing on the past, but having hope for the future.

It's been an age since I listened to this album. Admittedly my older sister was more of a fan of it than I was, but I spent a lot of time riding around in cars driven by her with music selections by her. Disarm, Today and Cherub Rock got a lot of radio play so those were more familiar to me than the rest of the album as I assume is the case with most. I think Disc One of Mellon Collie got more play. Anyhow, enough backstory. This sounded very much like Smashing Pumpkins to me. Their sound to me is as distinct as a fingerprint. I like that sound, generally. I don't go crazy for it, but it is good. The mix of Corrigan's vocals, Iha's guitar sound and Chamberlin's drums is a great mix. I'd put this into rotation again, get familiar with it again and revel in the nostalgia of being a passenger in a 1980s chevelle with a spray paint primer paint job in a cloud of Marlboro Light smoke wondering if I'll ever be as effortlessly cool as my sister. Spoiler, still trying to catch her.

I've heard a number of these songs before, but never really followed the Pumpkins. Perfectly good grunge, if nothing mindblowing; some very cool riffs (I liked "Geek U.S.A." a lot), though the vocals aren't as powerful as my personal grunge favorites. Good production, too, especially on the sinister "Silverfuck".

1979 is a great song, never got further into Smashing Pumpkins. WOW! Wish I did! Songs perfectly fit a 21 year olds day to day. loving Luna - cherub rock - today

Unbelievable. The guitar sound so crisp, Billy's voice and lyrics so raw, Jimmy's drums as thundering as anything you'll hear on a record. And the balance between softer songs and heavy ones is perfect. I love it

I'm a bit behind on reviews and feel like I don't have the words for this masterpiece. I'm of the right age and background that for me 90s alt-rock was centered on the Pumpkins, not Nirvana. And for all my love of other genres, I was born in 1984 and 90s music is home. I'll never not love this, never get sick of it. Maybe I'll have something more profound to say when Mellon Collie comes around.

What a great noise. You've got to like his whiny voice to enjoy it...

I’m not a big smashing pumpkin fan to begin with. It kind of sounds the same throughout the album. Some good stuff but I wouldn’t listen to it with my own free will again. Some good guitar tones tho.

Loud, varied, unique voice. A great album for its time and it stands up pretty well.

Buenardo me re gusto, solo conocia un tema q era 1975 y este album me gusto es mas movidito

Keep Melancholy, this is the Pumpkins best album, and I honestly don't even think it's that close. Tons of hits, an interesting twist on grunge - if the Pumpkins were a Venn diagram, they'd be in the grunge, shoegaze, and emo circles. Great stuff.

Some rocking numbers are kinda OK, but mellower ones are really annoying

My son warned me he wrote a book on this album. I had to make sure his mother saw it and in the process violated my self imposed rule of not reading his reviews until I was complete with mine. Well, I'm happy I did because it made my love and appreciation of this band even greater. I am happy Mindy and I were able to give our kids a very wide range of listening options and how we get to hear our favorite music being played by our kids through the years. And absolutely tickled some of "our" music has bevome some of their favorite music. Just makes this album, all music really, that much more an enjoyable experience. Back to this album. This was getting a 5 regardless of my son's review. This was peak Pumpkins, imo and definitely my personal favorite by these guys. One the things that make Pumpkins special is the combination of lyric writing with some really kick ass music. While your enjoying the tunes, you need to hear the message to the songs. Which brings me to my favorite Pumpkins song Mayonaise. Every time I listen, pretty sure I get goosebumps as I close my eyes and the let the song take me over. Cherub Rock always make me think of sitting in a Chicago bar at 3am watching, well I'll call him "Paul", bounce his head off the bar as he briefly passed out mid drink. Bartender takes his drink, looks at me and says, Your buddies done. You can have 1 more. I passed and got him home safely. This is another album that greats start to finish, but I have also always had special affection for the last song Luna. Just find it a beautiful, soul touching song. And now, after seeing my son's review and listening to the lyrics, even more special. There's lines in there along the lines of "what moon songs do your sing your babies." We played music and sang for our kids their entire lives while at home. Now when they return, they return the favor and play and sing their favorite songs for their mom and dad. Now, it just can't get any better than that, right? One last story, my wife and I took our son and a friend to see the Pumpkins in Detroit several years ago. I kept insisting it's been 30 years and he won't sound like the disc or play all of the music that made this band great. Well, they played a significant number of their best tunes and Billy sounded great. Most this review went sentimental, but hell, I was never that good at the words anyways. I'll leave that to Luke. This is a great album and the just more meaningful to this listener. 5

This album has cemented itself as an important part of my music taste development. It firmly stamps itself in my memory as tentpoles of my life. It stands there on the mount rushmore of my teen years. I have memories on memories involving this album that I couldn't possibly lament any one them here. This is as close to a perfect album any band can get without biffing it. That said, I do have some thoughts... While there are songs that will forever be a part of any playlist I could ever make, I think the back half is a little weaker than the front. The first few songs are hit after hit after hit and then Rocket and it stumbles a little. Gets back on track for a bit and then again at Spaceboy. Picks up a little with the all-timer Silverheck and then promptly falls over at the end. More 10/10 songs on one album than most bands get in their whole careers but in good Billy Corgan fashion, there's just a touch of bullshit. 4.7 (rounding to 5)

5 There was a time when The Smashing Pumpkins were my favorite band and this my favorite album (high school). And now - well, very little has changed. It’s hard for me to pick favorites these days, but Siamese Dream is an album that has never left my musical rotation since I first discovered it 15 or so years ago. I mean, my first (and as of this writing, only) tattoo I’ve ever gotten was of a pumpkin. Granted, I was pretty sloshed, and I think it had just as much to do with both my October birthday and love of Halloween, but regardless, seeing that jack-o-lantern grin at me from my right bicep whenever I look in the mirror reminds me of my appreciation for this band every time I see it - and that is absolutely worth whatever the hell I paid for it. As much as it pains me to stroke Billy Corgan’s ego, the madlad was absolutely cooking in the ‘90s. (Sometimes I wonder if Y2K did, in fact, happen, but instead of catastrophic software failure, it was musical genius being stripped from Billy’s fingers.) Gish through Adore are a legendary run of albums, but the group’s true magnum opus is right here, in Siamese Dream. In an era where grunge dominated the rock charts, the group offered this, which wasn’t exactly like all the other songs you were hearing on the radio nor was it quite like anything else you had heard before. Yes, there’s an anger and bitterness to it, but it’s also just as complex, layered, and borderline ethereal when it wants to be. I’m not sure how many albums I could name that provide the feeling of being in a mosh pit one moment and then transcending to the heavens the next, but I feel confident in saying that this one probably does it the best. There are no skips here, nor does any song feel out of place - this is about as close to a masterpiece as an album can get. For the purposes of this review, it’s probably not necessary that I go through each and every song… but F it, we ball. Real talk - has there been a better album opener to date than Cherub Rock? From Jimmy Chamberlin’s opening drumroll, to Corgan’s absolutely transfixing guitar solo, this is the exact kind of song you want on your album as if to say, “Welcome, you’re in for a treat”. I honestly don’t think I could ever get sick of the song if I tried, and it segues incredibly well into Quiet. I’m not going to pretend it’s my favorite on the album, but there’s something about a song called “Quiet” having this level of grittiness to it that I appreciate, and it keeps up the energy of Cherub incredibly well, though not before setting us up for one of the most iconic songs of the band’s career, Today. Today was once my favorite song by the Pumpkins, and it’s not hard to see why with its iconic guitar hook and perfect soft/loud balance (no doubt somewhat owed to Pixies). The music video to the song is also one of my all-time favorites, to the point where I actually paid tribute to it just last Halloween by dressing up as Billy in his paint-covered ice cream man outfit. Everyone thought I was an undead In-N-Out employee, but it was still worth it. I digress, jumping over to Hummer, things start to mellow out a bit. I absolutely love the fuzzy, psychedelic guitar on the track and the extended musical breakdown that concludes it, but I think what I enjoy most about the track is the message, or at least the one that I apply to it - why walk around humming somebody else’s tune when you could be singing your own? Or to put it more frankly, “Life’s a bummer, when you’re a hummer”. It probably feels superfluous to say any one song here is underrated, but Rocket is one I’ve always considered massively overlooked by Pumpkins fans. Once again, the guitar tone carries it heavily, and the genuine sense of liftoff that it provides is incredible. It’s a fun track that transitions into the heaviest (at least topically), Disarm. Despite its dark subject matter regarding abuse, it’s an amazing song that’s lifted to a thing of beauty with its inclusion of strings and bells. Things don’t get much lighter with Soma, but holy cow, does it have one of the greatest drops in all of music - it’s one of those moments that has me on the edge of my seat in anticipation every time I listen, goosebumps on my arms. It’s also a song that hits you deeply on a spiritual level if you’ve recently gone through a breakup and that encapsulates the angry/transcendent dynamic of this album perfectly - though Geek USA comes damn close. I absolutely love the outsider spirit of the track, and it sort of serves as a sort of inverse to a lot of the other songs here, in that it starts heavy before building to a mellow breakdown. The lyrics also provide the title of the album, though that’s easy to miss if you’re not paying attention. I stated earlier that Today was once my favorite song by the group, and while still beloved, it’s become clear to me in my time as a fan that Mayonaise is their true masterpiece - I have to give a shoutout to my dad for pointing that out to me first. The distorted guitar work on the song is absolutely mesmerizing, and paired with the themes of self-reflection in the lyrics, this becomes one of those songs that just manages to strike you in certain ways at various stages in life. I have a lot of memories with the song, not all ones that I want to share, but driving around Burbank at night time after a cross-country move to California is definitely one that always comes to mind. Before I move on, I have to give a special mention to my favorite set of lyrics on the entire album: “Mother, weep the years I'm missing All our time can't be given back Shut my mouth and strike the demons That cursed you and your reasons Out of hand and out of season Out of love and out of feeling” Over the years, their meaning and impact on me have changed in ways, but without fail, they always strike a chord. Things stay soft with Spaceboy, a touching song about Billy’s brother, before ramping up to a sort of climax in Sliverfuck. On paper, it doesn’t feel like a song that needs to be 9 minutes long, but in practice, it has me head-banging most of the way, wanting to scream out the chorus with Billy. The “bang bang, you’re dead” part is a little goofy, but it has charm. With that, it feels like the peak of our so-called dream or trip or what have you is over, and we come down alongside the cutesy little tune that is Sweet Sweet, which ultimately sets us up for a return to Earth in the form of a ballad, Luna. I used to find the song a little cheesy, but it's grown on me largely over the years - I think the sitar accompaniment does wonders to elevate the track as a strong closer. Phew! So there goes my longest review to date. If you’re still here, thanks for reading. I hope this album means something as special to you as it does to me. Thank you to the Pumpkins for providing us with this masterpiece, thank you to my parents for owning this album and getting me into the group, and thank you to that Mexican tattoo shop employee for sticking ink into a drunk tourist - I know this album will follow me for life. Now, let’s just hope the Pumpkins actually play songs from it when I see them at the Forum this fall.

Alto disco aguante smashing pumpkins, corta la bocha. Sape sape

All time classic

Vond deze erg heftig soms haha

Moeilijk te kiezen tussen 4 en 5 sterren maar imma be very picky welke ik 5 sterren geef Fave: Cherub rock

FIYAA

One of my top favs

easily five stars, a true masterpiece

This has been one of my favourite albums since about 2019.

😃

Это было охуенно!

From the first song, deeply satisfying music. Grunge at its best.

Same as the last Smashing Pumpkins album I listened to. I always come in jaded but walk away having enjoyed it.

Not a huge fan, but these first 2 records are undeniably good. I know the 3rd record is everyone’s favorite, but I feel like it’s bloated and overproduced. Their first record will always be my favorite. This one is a 4.4

I like The Smashing Pumpkins, but I came later to their work so the first album I was really familiar with was Melancholy… This is great. I could happily listen to this again and again.

Friday, 15 May, 2026 Pistons win game 6! This album, which has been the soundtrack to many of my drives up north, is in the pantheon of great rock albums. The opener, “Cherub Rock”, will knock your socks off, and Billy Corgan doesn’t let up.

*1993. *As one of the few people who loves Billy nearly as much as Billy loves Billy, I've been eagerly awaiting this album. *I just love it so much. Masterclass on playing with volume in almost every track. Mayonaise is a fave, Cherub Rock, Disarm, Today, and Rocket are classics. But all the tracks in between are an adventure as well. *So much delightful early 90s alternative goodness. RATING - 9.5/10

Very 1990s alternative rock, with a bit of grunge, of shoegaze and of pop. Best listened on tape inside an old car on a cloudy day. 3.75 / 5

Muito interessante, rockzão brabo

Fun to hear the hits but overall not for me

24/1001 Siamese Dream - The Smashing Pumpkins (1993) For a reason that has completely escaped me, I thought I didn't like The Smashing Pumpkins. I knew I liked 'Cherub Rock', because, well who doesn't? Other than that I was sort of dreading going into this. What the hell was I thinking? The wide suffocating guitars surrounding you at all times, the distinctive jazz-like drumming from Jimmy, the creativity and individuality oozing out of each track. The opener into 'Mayonaise' is more or less a perfect track run, with 'Quiet' being somewhat overlooked. The theme of the album, Billy's nostalgia and depression, is not lost on 'Today' despite its cheery instrumental. The serene beauty of 'Hummer' crashing head-first into the impenetrable wall of harsh guitar on the first leg of 'Rocket' was definitely no accident. Once you've recovered from that whiplash, 'Disarm' is there to take you into its acoustic and cinematic arms. You're lulled into a soft and blissful sleep with the lullaby of 'Soma', before it smashes you over the head with a frying pan with its second half's rude and crunchy awakening. The width and size of the guitars on 'Geek U.S.A.' would be overwhelming if they didn't tickle my brain in an indescribable way. 'Mayonaise' is a perfect track, and is in a sense the entire sound of "Siamese Dream" condensed down; it's almost the 'Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away)' of this record. 'Spaceboy' is a great track, especially when you know the meaning behind it, but the fake orchestra here is a little out of place when you focus on it too much. 'Silverfuck' is such an incredible cacophony of sound and organised chaos, I absolutely love it. 'Sweet Sweet' is just about the only forgettable track here, but gifting us 'Luna' as an outro makes that instantly forgiven. Overall, this project's laser focus on the sound of its guitars reminds me somewhat of "Loveless", one of my favourite albums of all time, except with intelligible vocals (love you mbv). A 90s classic. ★★★★★

Grungy, emotional, and very in depth album, you can really feel the band through the written lyrics but also through the instruments. Every song felt unique in a way that had a different feeling but still fit the overall emotion the album exerts. 9/10, Favorite Song: Disarm

No denying this album is a cornerstone of US alt rock. I love the guitar tone and wall of noise on the louder tracks (cherub rock, geek USA) but some of the quieter tracks drag a bit for me.

I particularly liked "Rocket", "Soma" and "Silverfuck". 3.5/5

뭐라 쓰지

3,5

A beautiful blend of grunge with shoegaze. I adore this album. 4.25/5.

A dream involving Siamese twins.

Se siente ligerito, pero está cargado de bastante fuerza y potencia, Today y Cherub Rock son estandartes de este álbum, pero otras un poco más escondidas como Soma o Spaceboy no se quedan atrás SILVERFUCK mi favorita, altamente recomendada e infravalorada Fusionan muchos estilos de rock, lo cual no se hace aburrido de escuchar, excelente álbum

One of my favourite albums back in high school, although I wasn't even born in the 90s. Love the melody, distorted guitar, Billy Corgan's vocal, the drums, lyrics, everything. The emotions are raw, sometimes in an intense way, and others more melancholic and vulnerable. No more needs to be said. It's just superb. p.s. didn't get the smashing pumpkins 2026 uk tour tickets... :/

Love it!

I love the band. I love the songs. I don’t love the ALBUM. This is a case where the sum of the parts is better than the whole thing. I love water, but that doesn’t mean I wanna drink from a firehose. Peel individual tracks off into digestible pieces and I really dig it. Keep bashing me with em repeatedly and I start to hate it. Overblown distortion and chorus effect, incessant nasal whining… only cool in small chunks. Fantastic fatigue is my summary of this album.

3,5

What a great album. Sure Billy Corgan is an asshole and might be difficult to deal with but, in my humble opinion, is one of the greatest song writers of this generation. This was such a great album and listening to it again and again and again does not change it. 5 fully deserved stars.

6/10 - just before my time but has some good indie rock songs, Disarm is a highlight

강하고, 말도 안되게 감성적이다. 놀랍다.

It's good. It's a guitar tone that I dream about. Billy Corgan is a dick, but that almost doesn't matter.

Truly one of the best 90s albums. Beautiful guitar riffs, variety in sounds, memorable lyrics. Incredible album. Unless I can’t be objective because I listened to it on repeat in the 9th grade.

I just can't take Corgan's voice ...

Chill rock

Damn near saved every song. Yes, I’ve heard before. But switched to a new music service and am rebuilding my “likes” library. This might be the most songs I’ve saved off any album. It’s just so good in every aspect. Even the songs I was iffy about offered a section where I was like “oh hell yeah.” Phenomenal.

no es mi tipo pero me gusto 3/5

That's actually a pretty good album. I listened to it here for the first time, and it probably won't be the last. 4/5

If you watch any YouTube video on a Big Muff pedal you have a 100% chance of hearing the Cherub Rock riff. I can't tell you how many times I've listened to this playing Madden '93, Road Rash or Toejam and Earl on Sega. Easily in the top 10 alt rock albums from the 90's. Everything about this album is fantastic, but the drumming is absolutely next level. Jimmy Chamberlin really elevates these songs.

Overall I liked it, definitely brought me back to my brief time with nirvana and foo fighters in college. With most alt rock albums I am picky about song length, and some tracks on here were excess of 6-9 minutes which is. Too long for me unless it does go places a la Won't Get Fooled Again. So if I could skip past the longer ones and stick to the 5 mins and under songs I think I'd enjoy it a lot more... Highlights: Today, Cherub Rock (a hell of an opener!), Spaceboy, Soma. Shoutout to Silverfuck for being just the most 90s song title I've seen in some time

Imagina que tu madre está conduciendo un jeep azul marino. Tú vas de copiloto, con la ventanilla bajada y la cabeza apoyada en tus brazos. En vez de ir contemplando la vida pasar, vas contemplando cómo el paisaje pasa de ser montañoso y verde, a ser campos y campos de trigo. Entonces, te sientes un poco encerrada porque te encantaría correr cuesta arriba por esos campos de trigo con TU caballo. Correr como un cohete (rocket, perfecta canción para ello), pero no puedes porque lo único que eres capaz de sentir es el viento en tu cara.

Great production and rocks hard. Nearly a great rock album. Just a pity about the vocals. They come close to ruining it. Overall just about a 3.

GENERATOR THINKS I DONT KNOW SIAMESE DREAM BY THE SMASHING PUMPKINS 🤣🤣 In all seriousness, genuinely one of my favourite albums ever. I first listened to this in high school. I remember I saw a clip of the music video for "Today." I was hooked. I still remember the walk I took when I listened to it for the first time. It's a true staple of 90s music, a good middle ground for what alternative rock was and how grunge would die.

Their second LP. Some really good stuff on this one.

No fui muy fan :( me pareció monótono

Really good. Very happy to find out about this band through this. So far everything I’ve heard has been amazing.

(2.75)

Great Old skool rap.

Forgot thy were cool

I’d heard the name The Smashing Pumpkins many times before, but this was probably my first time actually listening to their music. It’s a bit too heavy for my taste, although I don’t question that it’s a good album. It has several strong highlights. 6/10

This rocks and barrett and nick are stupid. Pure gold angsty 90s rock with a dash of the new fangled shoegaze for sublime emotional catharsis.

As guitarras são, com toda certeza, a maior qualidade do álbum e somando isso às letras o disco se torna uma verdadeira obra de arte.

Great album. I honestly forgot about how great Disarm is. oof. Five stars isn't enough.

Disarm is a masterpiece. Great angsty and raw record. Could have been ~15-20 minutes shorter and kept me wanting more. Sometimes Corgan's vocals can get grating, but I liked it so much I went back for a second listen.

A true classic alt rock album that managed to blend soft spacey atmosphere with harder sounds in many of the tracks, a very unique album experience Cherub rock, Disarm, mayonaise, Luna, geek USA, take your pick. Fantastic tracks throughout. One or two songs I could go without which is stopping me from giving this a 5

This album is heavier than I expected.. funny that most of the smashing pumpkins you hear played on the radio leans away from the heavier stuff. I feel like their sound is pretty unique to them. Enjoyed listening to this today.

I’m honestly not sure why, but I have never listened to the Smashing Pumpkins. I have heard a few of these songs over the years, and I’ve had a few people recommend them to me, but for some reason, I never found them intriguing enough to seek out. Having finally sat down and listened to Siamese Dream, it didn’t exactly blow me away. It's not bad, I don't dislike it, it’s a solid alternative album, and the guitar playing in particular was phenomenal, but Billy Corgan’s singing did start to get to me by the end. Again, it's not bad, it's just not something I really want to spend an entire album with and I don't foresee myself returning to this in the future.

My favorite Smashing Pumpkins album. I love playing Today, Disarm on my guitar. Also, it was a truly magical moment singing Mayonnaise together with Billy during the concert 🫶 Luna and Soma are kinda spellbinding songs. Cherub Rock, Hummer, Rocket, Silverfuck - also super good

Sounds like mcr and a summer evening

objectively gas.

What an incredible album. I am really into alt rock and this was the first full album I ever heard from The Smashing Pumpkins

Pretty great album imo. Subtracting a star because it hit me in the nostalgia and unbottled some old memories that I had kept stuffed deep down.

I had to think about this one for a while. To me this is some of the greatest guitar tone ever recorded. The highs on this album are so unbelievably high. Mayonnaise, Cherub Rock, Today, and Hummer would all be found somewhere on the list of Joe Begley’s list of 1001 greatest songs ever. With all that said, how does this album not get a 5? This is not a case of the high are high, and the lows are low. This is a case of the highs are high, and the lows are meh. It’s an album that’s been in the rotation for me for well over a decade, and it will be in the rotation for me for the rest of my life. With that said, they just trimmed this thing to 40 minutes it would perfect.

I once told a colleague I was going to see My Bloody Valentine live. he wanted to know what they sounded like and started playing “Sometimes” — a minute in he said “they sound like Smashing Pumpkins.” he didn’t seem to believe me when I said it’s the other way around. brilliantly executed vision on this album. without Jimmy Chamberlin’s contribution, it wouldn’t have as much impact. also thx u big muff and Corgan + Vig for the sound. so many highs here. one of the best intros to a rock album in the 90s. the mix of sweetness and explosiveness. the guitars all over the damn thing. unpopular opinion but I could do without “Disarm” — would have fit better on Mellon Collie.

Joe once asked me what I thought the best guitar tone on an album was. I'd never thought about it, but answered with 'Perfect From Now On.' He told me it was this album, and I can't really argue with it. "Cherub Rock" is a truly iconic moment. "Today" and "Hummer" keep the momentum going, but there are some songs in the back half that go on and on but I don't really need all that.

“Alright, this take, don’t give a fuck” studio banter has a 1% chance of not being cringe. This is cringe. This album is great. I think my idea of Billy corgan is almost in the way of enjoying smashing pumpkins. Too much time wondering what he is like as a person. It’d be better just not ever considering that. Such an interesting mix of hard and soft sounds. I did get stuck on his delivery of this - soft line, hard line, angel baby voice, yelling, etc etc

Interesting to get this album back-to-back with Metallica’s Black Album. Rick Rubin had impeccable and perfect sound with Metallica, though seemed to use tempo to suggest any kind of emotional element. Butch Vig creates soundscapes and emotional depth in otherwise whiny melancholy crybaby rock tunes with heavy riffs. It’s an interesting record to be sure and maybe one of the better albums of the early 90s.

Classic album. Smashing Pumpkins absolutely nailed the slightly spacey sound and manage to combine heaviness and melody as well as anyone. 'Soma' is my favourite track but they're all good

love, love , love

a classic alternative album, and as a fan of this genre the album was recommended to me before. Though, im more of a alternative metal fan, so it wasnt really my tempo. I liked today, disarm as it was more theatrical, mayonaise and luna

It's amazingly solid but the Smashing Pumpkins can never escape how irritating Corgan is in a lot of ways. Most of the tracks hit so hard instrumentally that it's easy enough to ignore with this record, but he's ever present nonetheless.

It was at a Smashing Pumpkins concert that I became aware of the studio wizardry that goes into making the band I was hearing live sound like they do on an album. That was during the Melon Collie and the Infinite Sadness tour, who's namesake I like less than this album. However I don't like Billy Corgan's voice at any time, pre or post-studio wizardry..

This album is one of my favourites from the 90s -there is something about the guitar mixed with Corgan’s voice that just strikes the perfect balance.

Fajnie niszczę dynie

After hearing the first couple of singles I knew this was a pretty damn good band. The video for 'Rocket' came on MTV (way back when they played music videos and it wasn't all the same genre and at the 2:11 mark there was this chord progression that screamed metal, shoegaze, pop you name it. I was hooked. As soon as the video was over I drove down to my local record store and bought the CD. What I found out after the first listen is that FOR ME there isn't a single skipper, in fact the non singles are in my opinion superior. If I was only allowed to pick 10 albums to listen to for the rest of my life this makes that list.

Good album to start this project as I've been wanting to get more into alt rock. I'm sure I've heard them on the radio before, or many bands influenced by them, and though I never liked this type of music as a kid, it makes me nostalgic now. I enjoy the density of sounds punctuated by moments of gentler guitars. Favorite tracks: Today, Disarm

This is one my favorites & probably one the greatest album of the 90s. Absolutely love this one.

I confess a soft spot for the swing for the fences high drama of (some of) these songs. The thick deep guitar sound these guys get, coupled with the angsty catharsis they aim for, is pretty great. The album is too long, but calling the Pumpkins out for excess is missing the point.

This was my early 90s—I bought this cd at the Tower Records at 86th St in NY. It holds up okay—the better songs still boast an impressive guitar wall of sound and their hooks are intact. But the album needed an edit—some songs are pretty forgettable; indeed, I had forgotten them.

its good! the songs are quite long which isnt necessarily a bad thing. i listened to it at night and the second part of silverfuck scared me i’ll definitely need to re listen to everything tho

It's not my type of rock and i didn't like it so much but it has a few interesting songs

It good. Mainly the guitar tones and the energy. Some kickass songs (and a few unmemorable ones). #337.

I liked this :D

I'm not finishing this album it sucks

They’re calling it the most Okay rock album of all time. What if we took everything great about my bloody valentine and stepped on it? Literally stepped on it? These songs are so fucking flat. Why do so many of them 5+ minutes?? They overstay their welcome!! Cherub Rock is great. Mayonaisse is great I can’t lie.

okay i get it now. love billy corgan's voice despite myself, mayonaise and today are both all time incredible songs, ending of silverfuck is awesome

billy corgan (like kurt) failed to realize there was a third option beyond burning out/fading away: transitioning. anyway let's boogie. it's a classic for a reason. despite all my misgivings (i will say butch vig Knows how to get massive guitar sounds; ur always good in my book gng) about the recording process and the man behind the name. and the instruments. it's basically all just him. everyone else seems like a chiller at the time (despite the struggles). d'arcy i love you. please (can someone take a flash photo of james so he gets out the infinite sadness place) enjoy life and money away from this plonker. speaking of: (related but unrelated) the thing about the fact that we have to listen to the feature length entirety of mellon collie is that like many a 90s double album (or oasis not saving the good b sides) you could've just kept the 10-15 great songs. (actually related) 4-4.5. incredible track runs. geek usa is a stonker. luna Might be an all timer. i'm not gonna argue james' guitar ability is overrated but. clearly you guys aren't listening to those vernon reid solos.

Aww yeah. It's not Mellon Collie but it's so good!

Some generational songs on this record for sure - Cherub Rock, Today, Disarm. I had never heard Mayonaise before but apparently it's massive and those pinch harmonics at the start are sick (and kinda funny? lol). My first guitar teacher was obsessed with the Pumpkins, his fav band (named his son Corgan), and I definitely had a bit of a phase with them but few of their songs really hit me. Sick fuzz guitar tones all over the place which is sort of their signature thing (I think they have a signature Big Muff?). Billy Corgan's voice doesn't annoy me exactly, but after a whole album I felt a bit numbed. I listened to most of it on a run which was a pretty good environment. I just have a harder time connecting with this era of rock music, it's not old enough to feel seperated by time to me - it's just kinda what my sisters GenXer friends loved so my brain lumps it in with Pearl Jam. Not a bad album. Cool band name lol

Luna’s not bad. If the album were instrumental I’d rate it a 3. Idk what it is about his voice but I instantly tune out. Like for a good chunk of this record I forgot I was listening to music.

The songs that have made it into the zeitgeist stand out for sure. I think mostly I just glaze over with this. Part of it is the vocals for sure. His voice just doesn’t do it for me. It’s not offensive to listen to, just doesn’t resonate. The guitar tones are dope, but I feel like it’s missing a weight that I need from it, production wise and emotionally.

good guitar tones, vocals are annoying

I don't care if Billy Corgan sounds like a young seagull getting run over by a smart car; He makes my heart skip a beat

Realistically like an 8/10 but I gotta inflate my scores because of how ass the rest of this list is

Silverfuck is awesome

I know this album gets a lot of hate but I still find it entertaining and is a solid c+

I cannot enjoy the songs with that voice. I think I like one Smashing Pumpkins song, and it isn't even on this album.

Enjoyable trip down memory lane

No es de mi agrado la verdad, la puedo escuchar, pero no me guardaria ningun tema.

an album only a millennial could move

Solid. Just heard a couple of those songs too many times

Billy can be a self-serving Dick, but Man he could turn out some tunes in the 90s

Mammoth alternative rock album. Dream pop sensibilities and that guitar sound......

Nice Music - rockig

Sehr gutes Album eigentlich, bei manchen songs verliert es mich ein bisschen aber ich glaube das nicht unbedingt am Album selber. Ich muss nochmal zu nem anderen Zeitpunkt reinhören aber nen Paar Songs haben mich absolut abgeholt: Hummer, Geek USA und Silberfuck zb. Bis jetzt ne 4/5 kann aber ne 5/5 werden

In a vacuum this record is expertly crafted, well sequenced, and near-perfectly performed. Just drop the needle or press play and it's ready to take off. You don't need any background to enjoy it if your music preferences come from any one of the rock traditions. With a little more context, this is one of the best examples of 90s alternative radio and MTV 120 Minutes broadcasts. The Smashing Pumpkins were culturally close enough to the so-called grunge scene to discern its workings and Billy Corgan was smart enough to incorporate and re-work elements of it into the band's broad sonic palette alongside spacier influences from the UK. It's heavy, but not too heavy, it has dreamy moments but not too many, it has an emotional core, but never goes too deep as to get lost in itself entirely. The album is a step up from Gish and the work they put in is evident. If the first three tracks don't grab you then you might as well walk away from the record because not much will change your mind, but you're going to miss out on some brilliant moments (Disarm, Geek USA, Mayonaise, Spaceboy, etc) as well. But maybe you are like me and you have too much context and baggage to be so easy on this record. I didn't buy this record at the time. I was actively opposed to this band and felt I couldn't escape "Today" at the time. I was too strident a post-hardcore punk into his noise rock fantasies to put money down for something so radio-friendly. It was obvious that The Smashing Pumpkins had sold out to break big. They shed some qualities of Gish that had helped them slot into a record collection that was expanding but still not welcoming of mainstream music. And you couldn't escape knowing how much of an ass Corgan was at the time so...you know, if you really cared about all the wrong things in your scene it was hard to accept this record. With time and some nostalgia creeping in I picked it up maybe 3 years ago and have put it on repeat a number of times. Its status as one of the iconic albums of its era is well-deserved. It doesn't represent me and owning it says something about who I am but nothing important about who I am. We need to separate things from the self. So, yeah, I give it 5 stars today — it's the greatest day I've ever known after all.

Still great.

Billy C's just mostly annoying now, but goddamn he and the crew went hard in the early years. Some monster tracks, and Jimmy Chamberlain just drums real clean. Some of the later ones just sound like today redux's - which I guess is cool - classical? operatic?

Didn't finish the whole album but it's great so far is the 4 Star album for me

good. feels very grundgey.

The big hits from this album remain good and the other stuff I hadn't heard before is solid too. Corgan's vocals do grate at times when they veer into ultra whiny but generally I find them, and the album as a whole, to be very agreeable.

fun album

Best album ever!!

Good

хороший альбом, но мне не очень нравится вокалист группы. музыка очень крутая, но вокалист для меня как будто поет очень одинаково что ли, голос со временем надоедает. в целом альбом хороший, но не мое. 6/10 для меня

This is the rock i want. The guitar in this album alone, amazing. I love the heavy sound they have.

[small change after reslistening] Grunge is back on the menu boys. Heavy dark guitar riffs. "tortured" music has to walk the line between sounding insufferably whiny and cathartic. This record walks that line reasonably well and I can imagine many a teen in the 90's listening to this stuff on their way to school. It also helps that the singers voice, although high and nasaly not too much on the forefront. The mix is very clear in general. The drums and bass really jump out, which is in my experience pretty rare in this genre. It's kind of impressive that they have managed to get such a clear sound while still sounding grunge-y. It's good for a grunge record, but I don't like grunge. 7/10

Very whiny and long-winded, after three songs I was already checking if I was close to done. Not my thing.

really nice , , loved the rumbly guitar

Oh boy I’m right back in my college dorm.

Siamese Dream de The Smashing Pumpkins, sinceramente, no estuvo mal. No es mi género favorito, pero pude escucharlo sin aburrirme ni sentirme demasiado sobreestimulada. Le doy un 3 porque hubo canciones que no necesariamente me gustaron.

i hate the fucking eagles man

Un poco aburrido el disco, de la mitad a la última canción se pone mejor, pero me parece que no es el mejor disco del grupo

liebs!!

This was a solid album overall. Never really explored Smashing Pumpkins outside their hits; they're other songs are quality, but the hits are still the highlight. Favorite Track - Cherub Rock Least Favorite Track - Disarm ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

A landmark in 90s alternative but there is something about Billy that holds me back from loving this like Nevermind or Ten. Some great tracks and Jimmy Chamberlain is an awesome drummer.

Okay mid 90s fare

L'album est incroyable, c'est une folie

Hard to be unbiased because I’ve loved this band for a long time. Great album, no filler just heaps of nostalgia and hard rocking fun.

Good, very 2000s indie. Nothing to write home about for me but good.

The soma

You hear the guitar and know you’re in for a treat. It’s my favourite part about the Smashing Pumpkins. That guitar tone is sooo yummy and their sound is incredible. Get out the big muff!!! This is a really good album.

Great fun, they're a band I've just never gotten round to. I like the big driving sound and the heavy fuzz bass on stuff like "Quiet". The bells in "Disarm" are so cool, maybe my favourite song here and I genuinely think it's just that and the strings I love weird instrumentation. I like "Mayonaise": real big fuzzy thing. I think this album is the first I've never heard before that I'd consider listening to again. 4.5, but we'll be nice and round up.

Really liked this one. Love the vibes and the tone. Very melancholic but in a good way. Some music doesn't make me feel anything but this does. My favourites were Today, Soma, Geek U.S.A., and Mayonnaise. If I could I'd give this a 4.5. I didnt blown me away or affect me enough to be a 5 however. Out of the albums I haven't already listened to this has been my favourite so far. This gets a high 4.

Very nice Sorry i forgot to write a proper review but i like it a lot

Really big fan of this album's sound. I like the melancholic vibe I fw melancholic rock. I think I would listen to this again it feels like something I would've loved as a teenager so its a shame I've only discovered it now. I think Mayonnaise is my favourite but given a re-listen it might change

When you hear the good in this album it's borderline shocking. Starts out with one and Cherub Rock, but just like Melon Collie it drags (thank god not nearly as long). Guitar tone rules. Feels like a 4 but i think Billy Corgans creepy vibe drops a star.