Siamese Dream

This album it's a combination of alt rock, some grunge, acoustic and acoustic rock. It starts with a lot of energy like an alt rock album should be, then some punk starts to play and as the album goes on, the music is like a roller coaster, a lot of relaxing acoustic comes and then a hit of alt rock abusing in a good sense of the electric instruments.

Perfect

Smashing Pumpkins are hard for me to rate properly. They are a great rock group and they have some fantastic songs…but I just can’t stand Billy Corgan’s voice. If they had someone else sing it, it would be a 4 star album for me, maybe even a 5. But I just can’t stand it because his voice is so grating to me.

Cherub Rock, Today, Disarm, Soma, Mayonaise, Silverfuck, Luna. Yes I just basically named the whole album, it's that good.

Gorgeous, heavy blistering shoegaze-y noise with just a pinch of psychedelia. It's a bit long, and I think the record could've ended after "Spaceboy", but it's still a solid album throughout. Call it 4.5 stars. Favorite tracks: "Hummer", "Disarm", "Soma"

pretty chill 2.75 no top of the line songs but over-all is gud

I love this album. Brings me back to my younger adulthood.

Ok Not as inspiring as expected

I just can’t get over his terrible voice. Things surrounding it sound good though.

Damn, after 20 years there still isn't really anything that sounds like Smashing Pumpkins. Great album front to back and one I need to add to my vinyl collection.

Holds up.

Quintessential Smashing Pumpkins, Cherub Rock, Today, Disarm and Rocket remain some of Pumpkins' best songs both musically and lyrically

Fruit Bats Eric D Johnson covered this in its entirety. One of the great albums of all time I think. Didn't really like anything they did after this.

No sophomore slump for the Smashing Pumpkins. This record is a perfect blend of shoegaze, dreamy psychedelia, and grunge/alternative. What else can be said?

Enjoyed: yes Listens: 2 Didn't really enjoy it on my first listen through a speaker. My second try with earphones really helped the experience. Everything felt very tight and calculated. Will defo go back to this at some point

The best thing the Pumpkins ever did and one of the best coming-of-age/teenage angst-fueled albums. After the soft opening chords of 'Cherub Rock' the next 60+ minutes are just a glorious smash in the face, full of sonic dynamics and depth.

Brilliant album

I already listen to these guys a fair bit, but still made some discoveries here. This is essential listening for rock fans, just a steady and consistent rock record that doesn't feel like it's nearly 30 years old. Also a great album to listen to on a late-night drive out of town with your best friends who, thankfully have the same taste in music as you do. Standard tracks are Cherub Rock, Hummer, Mayonaise, and Spaceboy.

Van heel kalme nummers tot nummers die naar metal neigen, met allen duidelijk de handtekening van SP. Zalig album

great album

Peak 90s

It was very… ok? It honestly felt pretty dull, like a sepia-tone version of emo-punk like Taking Back Sunday. There were a couple stand-outs like Cherub Rock and Disarm, but I found the droning guitar and drowned-out vocals to be offputting.

Best intro to an album ever? From that point, only gets better ...

Mediocre Rock album. Well done Smashing Pumpkins. You smashed it!!!

In the words of Shakin’ Stevens: lovely stuff

Would like a bit more growl in that grunge! Enjoyed Rocket, Geek U.S.A. I'm wondering if this could be an album I enjoy more with further listens....but....there are other grunge albums I'd be going to should I be in that mood.

One of the soundtracks to my school years and must be one of my most-listened to albums ever. And it still sounds phenomenal. Not a single weak track. Highlights: Soma, Mayonaise, Geek USA, and every single thing that Jimmy Chamberlin does.

Grunge isn't usually my thing, but I really liked this. No particular tracks stood out, but it chugs along for an hour with an engaging energy and vibe. Rating: 3.5/5 Playlist track: Cherub Rock Date listened: 06/09/22

Ok

Amazing, duh

a few good (popular) songs

Listened to this a hundred times

Love it!

Kwaliteit

Smashing pumpkins - some songs very good, some just awful

Great revisit of some 90s grungy rock, and a nice trip down memory lane.

Good to finally listen to this all the way through! I’ve been a fan of the Smashing Pumpkins forever, but mainly just their singles. I’ve even seen them live twice without ever having listened to a whole album of theirs. Oops? Anyway, outside of the hits I already knew, I actually wasn’t super interested in the rest of it. Oops?

love this one

I liked Disarm because it's sweeter than the other songs, we hear the voice clearlier than others, which I prefer. Finally, that's when the "Rock" type is too strongly expressed that it's too much for me.

Still good after all these years.

Great album, but a bit flat. Would definitely listen again

Really nice guitar and great pop rock sound

Smashing!

This was blandest of the bland. Looking at some of the reviews here it seems like you had to be there to get this. Now 30 years later, it just sounds like one similar song and nothing very special. Could easy cut out about 20 minutes from this thing and lose absolutely nothing.

Potência do rock direto que possibilita envolver outras camadas de sonoridade.

I knew the popular ones here and generally liked the album. By the end I was a little tired of it though.

Очень средний альбом, сыроват, длинный, слушать тяжело. Всё же пара хороших песен есть, но они преимущественно в начале.

Another band, I hadn't gotten around to listen to thoroughly and I'm happy I finally listened to Siamese Dream, a very fine record. There are elements of arena rock, classic rock, alternative and it's a bit grungy in parts, this album holds up pretty well, released almost 30 years ago. There was lots to like and most of it held my attention. I hear that this is The Smashing Pumpkins best record and it's good, so I should explore more of their discography soon. Hope the rest are at least half as good as this!

I really REALLY liked this album. Wish I would’ve discovered this earlier in life. Can’t describe it, but it’s so good!

Mayonaise, Disarm, I forget how good some of SP was

Good album. Really highlights the indie rock of the early 90s sound. Would skip the second album.

Some good songs, good elements, a lot of songs were too similar for me and the lyrics were hard to hear and the same throughout

I've heard all of Siamese Dream because someone else has put this album on to listen to. I've listened to several songs from this album and from TheSmashing Pumpkins in general. "Today" and "Disarm" are two tracks from this album that jump back into my personal rotation every now and then. Overall, the album feels like a strong 4 stars. No tracks felt like I should skip them, and some of the tracks are marked for replay.

Modern listening experience on this one. Started with an MP3 at my computer (through external speakers), continued listening to a CD in my bedroom, finished the album streaming Spotify in my car. Without question, it sounded best on the CD, but that patented mid-range buzzsaw guitar came through in every medium. Found I enjoyed the album more than I expected I would. While I own this on CD, I always preferred Mellon Collie back in the day, so now I'm going to go back and listen to that front to back to compare. Nice blend of dynamics on this, though mostly defined by the angst-fueled signature wail of Billy Corgan — vocally and musically. I appreciated Jimmy Chamberlin's drums more than ever on this listen. At the end of the day, I find myself losing the thread of the song with The Smashing Pumpkins — it's more of a vibe than a collection of songs to me on this album. I remember moments, and a couple of standout tunes, but ultimately, three stars because I don't expect to keep going back to listen to the album. Sidenote: I once stood next to Billy Corgan at a concert in NYC, Ric Ocasik's solo band — dude is tall!

The first three songs are still thrilling. “Quiet” sounds like it could have been a Sabbath tune. I also dig “Soma.” The rest kind of bored me now, like so much of 90s alt-rock. Although his guitar tone is killer

I remember when this album came out. Loved "Today" even though it was overplayed on the radio. Listening now I'm finding Billy Corgan's voice monotonous and hard to understand his lyrics. I value this album for its indie influence and hold this band close in my heart but the album doesn't do it for me like it used to.

Check

Another one of those bands I'd heard of but never really listened to. This is great, grungy and shoegazey but still a bit upbeat. A solid 4.5, rounding up

high 3 or low 4 - went with the 4

I was surprised by how many songs I liked.

Such a great album. Contains some of my favorite pumpkins songs. Corgan is a wizard. 5/5

I mean... Its definitely a top 100 album of all time. Idk what to say. I'm dreamed out of my siamese mind rn. 9.9/10

Although I won't be adding any of these tracks to my playlists – not quite my type of listening – I have to admit that I enjoyed this album, even without trying to frame it against its own genre. True, there are better bands in this space, but a band doesn't have to be great to be good. I felt the instrumentation was good in a classic sense, and the themes were constant, if not the "best".

Decent album

For liking nirvana and similar grungey music, actually wasn’t a huge fan. Mostly vocals, I liked the instrumentals a lot

Great album. Great voice. Not their best(personal opinion) but still a great album,

It's a fine listen but it doesn't do much for me. "Cherub Rock", "Mayonnaise" and "Today" are all good, but I have never found The Smashing Pumpkins' sound to be anything better than just good (Besides "1979" which is amazing, but not on this album). Favorite Song: Today

Happy this is the first album I was familiar with brought me back to six flags if you're reading this a long time from now I hope you remember tonight tonight

Awesome album by the smashing pumpkins. Several classic hits on this album. It’s not as long as Mellon Collie but still rocks sufficiently. The album shows the prog rock style that makes them great instrumentally. Billy Corgan has a unique voice and singing style that makes this album different and the smashing pumpkins a solid band. 7.5/10

Not a big grunge fan, but some good stuff on here. “Mayonnaise” absolutely slaps. Enjoy some of the quieter moments. Maybe I’ll grow into this type of music more in future!

J’avais lu que siamese dream etait le meilleur des pumpkins et cela se confirme des les premieres chansons. C,est un super album rock qui me fait comprendre le buzz auour de ce band sans les annees 90. 5

They were far away from the excellence of "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness," but I'll rate it with five stars just because it's still a collection of memorable songs, and I made a mistake of giving just four stars to "Mellon Collie" when I received it on this list.

Outstanding album. Comfortably their best and, although not strictly grunge, one of the best from that era. Possibly second only to Nevermind.

Yummy yummy

good riffs. good songs. good.

One of the best albums to come out in the post-Nevermind era.

Still overwrought and deeply resonant.

All killer, no filler 😁

Superb. Didn't realise how many of the Smashing Pumpkins tracks I knew are from this album

This album is excellent. There is not a dull moment on it. It is meticulously crafted, every song sets up the next one perfectly. Every sound is perfectly realised. Billy Corgan pretty much claims the fuzz pedal for himself with this album. The sound he creates with it is thick, gritty but smooth, dense, and immersive but it is never overwhelming and is frequently punctured by beautiful, glassy clean strat-through-valve-amp tones. I first listened to this Album by renting it out from a library and ripping it onto my PC. I played it a lot in my youth. I bought a fuzz pedal pretty much because of this album. One of my favorite guitar pleasures is to play "Cherub Rock" through a cranked fuzz pedal, the feeling of power is immense and uplifting.

This is the first of what will (hopefully) be great listenings; as this is coming from the guy who thought that 90s alternative was full of butt-rock, cheesy pop-punk, pretentiousness, and Nirvana. Fortunately, this, AIC, Primus, and RATM to an extent have shown me the light. I really enjoyed this album, which was higher than expected. I think that all tracks were strong, although I preferred the heavier tracks as a metalhead. I have noticed a common topic of Corgan (Frontman) singing about depression and dealing with it. Such lyrics include: \"I shall be free from the voices in my head\", and \"I'll betray myself\". Overall, I was really impressed by how all of this was pulled of despite increased conflict within the band, as each track had something unique about it. 9.5/10

Really like "Disarm" the rest is ok but forgettable and sums up what I disliked about the 90s mainstream.

Just some solid 90's alt rock right here. I don't think it has that star factor the Mellon Collie does, but this is damn fine.

Lacking the special massive qualities that I liked in Mellon Collie, and layering on the parts that I don't like as much, which makes sense for a debut. They had growing to do.

Flawless

A 90’s alt rock masterpiece, get the vocals are not everyone’s taste. But personally I’m a fan and believe this is smashing pumpkins best album.

Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness is better.

it's taken me almost 30 years to get around to listening to this. I'm a fool....should have listened sooner - great album, and thats after 1 x listen!

Billy Corgan is undeniably talented but I’ve never been the biggest fan of his voice. With this album, I actually liked the middle more than either end with the exception of cherub rock. Today is overrated

There are some tunes on this but if I was to be critical, its sort the poster child for rock albums seeming about samey

What an amazing record. I wish I had this on vinyl but I’m not that rich lol

i put this on expecting to give it a three because i've always liked the singles but not the whole album but today this hit HARD. something about corgan's voice takes me back to being a little kid listening to the radio and thinking about how big the world was.

A este llegué después de MC&IS, pero también fue un disco de compañía allá en 1999. Recuerdo haber visto circular el vídeo de Rocket en MTV mucho antes de cuando finalmente caí en el disco, pero no me gustaba. Las visuales eran extrañas para mi y no recuerdo habermd dedicado a escuchar la música.

Good, not great.

I know this band when they make a concert in Barcelona with Bon Jovi, Van Halen and The Pretenders. I speak when the begining of the 90s. I went to see The Pretenders and I with a pack I saw the others. I liked these concerts but now it has changed much all.

Al final de su carrera les cogí tirria y hoy en día me parece que su líder está más por dar la nota que por hacer algo decente. En cualquier caso, este disco es una obra maestra de su tiempo. Grunge fuera de Seattle con rock potente y canciones lentas más cerca del folk o los cantautores en una combinación que antes era más del heavy y sus baladas con punteos. Canciones buenas tiene casi todas: "Cherub Rock", "Quiet", "Today", "Rocket", "Disarm", "Soma", "Geek U.S.A.", "Mayonaise", "Spaceboy", "Silverfuck", "Sweet Sweet" y "Luna". Espectacular disco.

Enjoyable but I had to be in the right frame of mind!

Their best album!

I like a lot of The Smashing Pumpkins' music and I'm always impressed by Billy Corgan's songwriting, composition, and performance skills. Incredible musicianship and a severely underrated guitarist in my view (I think that's for two main reasons: (1) he's a singer, the frontman, and he's a multi-instrumentalist; and (2) his personality, or at least how it's shown to us via media). This was only their second studio album as a band, yet it shows complexity and a signature style. I don't love all the tracks on this album but it does contain some real gems. Really good stuff overall.

I hate Smashing Pumpkins. I can't stand Billy's voice. It ruins otherwise pretty decent music. Good melodies, good driving rock guitar/drums/bass. I'm def a fan of Iha's tone. But damn if that voice doesn't sound like a 6 year old that needs his juice box NOW!

The one album that's in my personal library, and a pretty great album too. Cherub Rock kicks things of nicely, Today is so lovely, Disarm is well, disarming, and Mayonaise has always been a favourite.

As much as I want to complain about these songs being "played out" on the radio or complain about my perceptions of Billy Corgan steadily degrading over time ... I just don't care, because this album is way too good. I also openly acknowledge my fondness for this album is likely unduly swayed by nostalgia. What really drew me into this album, and still endears me to it today, is that it is founded in the grunge/alt musical sensibility, but it goes way beyond the simplistic structures of that genre. The songs are full of contours. They have intros, transitions, swings in guitar effects, phrases that build and climb, pauses of calm punctuated with eruptions of fuzz blaring guitars. I think the tracks 'Soma', 'Mayonaise', and 'Silverfuck' demonstrates what I'm talking about perfectly. Some of the greatest tracks/moments on this album, that come to my mind are, the first 57 seconds of 'Cherub Rock', 'Hummer', 'Rocket', 'Soma', 'Silverf*ck', and 'Rhinoceros' - oops, wrong album.

3.5/5. Pretty decent grunge alt-rock.

Approached with some trepidation given my ambivalence for Melon Collie… I was surprisingly bowled over by Siamese Dreams. Tight, controlled, impactful and bold, this is as perfect an alt rock 90s album as you could wish for. Corgan brings his A game, the production is excellent and the album is an emotional experience without seeming histrionic and all the more powerful for that. 4.5 stars? But I’m in a generous mood so 5 it is.

Smashing Pumpkins were one of the first bands that I listened to and one of the first cds I ever bought. I enjoyed this album and it brought back a ton of nostalgia.

5.0 + My musical ground zero - the band and the record that ushered me full-force into rock music as a teen. I listened to this album more than any other, and can sing it all the way through. So many amazing moments here - from the guitar solo in "Cherub Rock", to the contemplative end of "Hummer", to the drumming on "Geek USA", to the trippy middle of "Silverfuck", to the gorgeous homage to shoegazer rock with "Mayonaise"...Confronting past demons head-on, believing in a better tomorrow and swirling with psychedelic color.

There were a couple of absolute bangers (disarm, cherub rock) but the rest of the album didn't really capture me all that much. Some songs are definitely in the rotation already/going into the rotation after this, but some are very forgettable.

are the pumpkins smashing as in the verb “to smash” or smashing as in the british adjective

Perfect, their best album

Seriously? Is this the 1001 worst albums?

Enjoyed very much always been a fan of Smashing Pumpkins

It's a classic!

Lovely stuff

Smashing Pumpkins always slightly annoyed me. I mean, it was fine then, it is fine now. I guess. "Today" is certainly an all time classic. Takes the album from 2.5 to 3.5 stars.

Never listened to a Smashing Pumpkins album in full before, actually enjoyed it. Some great tracks. 9/10

good one

Woh! Smashing Pumkins are legendary. Billy Corgan is an absolute MONSTER singer. You can pick his voice out from anywhere. Not the best album they have but still has some huge songs on this album and they never forget their true rock feel with heavy guitar and drums.

Siamese Dream was part of my 90s/00s playlists. Some of these songs are perfect and have grown in me through the years: Quiet, Disarm, Rocket, Mayonnaise… It’s a great Alternative Rock piece that has influenced several artists for the last 30 years

Love it

There were a couple of absolute bangers (disarm, cherub rock) but the rest of the album didn't really capture me all that much. Some songs are definitely in the rotation already/going into the rotation after this, but some are very forgettable.

Best Song: Cherub Rock. This is the band at their most Smashing. A grungy, gritty groove that does a great job of kicking off the album. Worst Song: This is the band at their most Pumpkins. Corgan just absolutely squeezing out how he "used to be a little boy," sounding like he's trying to sing while someone fits him for a corset that's two sizes too small. Add that to the layered vocals when he sings against/with himself and it's all just too much. Overall: This album, like the other Smashing Pumpkins albums I've listened to, is bloated, self-indulgent, and rooted around a central sound whose appeal I just don't understand. There are better, realer, rawer grunge records out there. Your time is much better spent listening to any of them.

Just played the 'weaker' second half of the album and it's fantastic, every track a potential hit. Nirvana have the cool, the zeitgeist, the amazing live events, and the aura of tragic glamour - and the songs that defined a generation. But they never made an album as strong as this.

Muy shoegazey

I was instantly transported back to the 90s when the intro to Cherub Rock kicked in. This is a classic and still sounds amazing.

Instrumentals are great throughout, the guitar is present in a good way. The vocals weird me out a bit at times but not too badly. I think it's among the better 90s music I've heard so far

The odd nice song is not enough to lift the rest of this album enough for me.

Chuckie is back

If it weren’t for Mellon Collie and The Infinite Sadness, I’d say this is the best Smashing Pumpkins album. Still, it’s one of the best guitar and drum albums of all time.

The guitars we so sick

Oh, pero qué decir de este disco. Llegué a los esmáchin con el Mellon Collie y me costó varios años entender este disco. Era menos sofisticado, menos ecléctico como el posterior disco doble, pero por allá en 1999 finalmente caí y se me abrieron esas joyas como Rocket, Soma, Mayonaise. Es un clásico de los 90 que alcancé a descubrir al final de esa década, cuando el desgano de los grunge ya se había disuelto.

Drumming is next level. Screams 90's, but screams it so well. That baroque style terraced dynamics marks this as an early-ish grunge winner. Disarm is such a great tune and Today with that cool riff makes this album a classic.

the well known tracks are surrounded by interminably overlong prog/grunge noise. starts well

I don't usually love this genre, but this has a pretty distinctive sound and I found myself surprised at how much l liked it.

This is so quintessential 90s. Time machines are real

Good stuff

Rock for (by?) angry teens? Not particularly the good kind imho. Didn't finish listening because I got a bit bored/annoyed with it. Definitely not Smashing.

I knew Today and, surprisingly, Disarm. I think I liked those? Overall not bad but wouldn't put it on again soon.

I don't care for the smashing pumpkins. Billy Corgan sounds like a moped that's struggling up a hill. The album is pretty classic early 90s rock. I like this album even though the vocals are distracting.

svona lala

Surprisingly dull.

I will always praise Corgan’s songwriting, but the production really makes it hard to listen to some of the heavier songs. The album shines when the songs are softer without his really bothersome distortion. Nevertheless, there are classic songs like Disarm and Today on this album. Worthy of a 4.

Great Album with a high quality of songs. Feels somewhat like a textbook alternative rock album

Muy Smashing Pumpkins.

I liked that there is a song called Silverfuck.

The guitar sounds on this record are incredible. The way Corgan uses fuzz is so well done and adds so much to their sound that it makes everything he did sound thinner by comparison. Beyond that, the songwriting is perfect. 10/10

A few excellent tracks but a bit long. It would be a 4 if I thought I would go back to it more. Cover art: 3/5

It's a great album, although it is a bit more heavy metal than I might like, I gotta admit it's not bad. If you're looking for a powerful album that combines really strong instrumentals and powerful guitar with some not very clear lyrics, then this is your album. 'Today' is actually a brilliant song

Ok, I'll squeeze this up to five. This is probably a nostalgia thing because I discovered them after this record, but for as much as I am a fan of the Pumpkins, especially Mellon Collie, followed behind by Adore, this album never latched on with me. It should have though. Every time I listen, I like it more, and wonder why I don't play it more frequently. There is some truly great rock here. Amazing guitars, dynamics, songwriting. Many things that stand out in later Pumpkins songs feel like they really started here.

somewhere between Yo La Tengo and Nirvana - ok but think this ship has sailed

Identifying Smashing Pumpkins : It’s Smashing Pumpkins

Grew on my as I went. I didn't realize I knew so many Smashing Pumpkins songs. Not really for me, but the quality and lasting cultural impact of these tracks is enough to bump it from a 2 to a 3.

Overall good album. Talented musicians and the sound is very 90s nostalgic.

Awesome rock album

I suspect I'd need to listen to this a few times to really get it.

4 stars

Loads better than I remember.

Disarm is nice, but I hate the voice

One song one hour long.

Not bad. Started strong but the last few songs dragged a bit. Hadn't listened to this album before but am definitely a fan of other SP releases.

gott stuff

A doozy

I think I’ll need to give this album another listen at some point. The songs are quite nice, and the lyrics are very positive and optimistic. My complaint is that so many of the songs sound very similar, but I’m hoping with more listens that I can hear the differences. 6/10

Nevermind but not as good. Great textures for the first few songs.

War früher kein Mega Smashing Pumpkins Fan aber habs jetzt echt sehr genossen - Laut/leise, große Gesten und Gefühle, 90er as fuck, unique Gesang, Sound und tolles Songwriting

I love this album. So many good songs & sounds. Smashing Pumpkins sound like no one else. Rocket has always been my favorite pumpkins song, beginning of Hummer is amazing.

Great album. Alt Rock champions.

Excellent album, would recommend

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i played cherub rock on guitar hero 3 back in like 2008. that game formed my music taste as a teen and unfortunately i didn't take to cherub rock that much. listening to it now i still don't but this album is nice. really regret not giving it a chance back then as i think it would have a had a healthy impact on me. the highlights for me on this album are the more quieter moments. they really shine.

The first album I've already heard!!! And I already know it's a 5/5 for me!!! Excited to relisten though!!! I adore the changes in pace and energy, the floaty instrumentals in the quieter bits are so dreamy and gorgeous, and the guitars in the louder bits are SO BLOODY GOOD!! Heck I forgot Silverfuck is almost 9min long, it just flies by (for me anyway) because it is so COOL I may be biased because this is an album I've been coming back to regularly since I was...15? There's a reason for that though

Simply smashing

'I don't understand what they mean and I could really give a fuck' All jokes aside, this is a solid album - probably their best as it's more confident than Gish and more consistent than the fantastic-but-sprawling Melon Collie. Cherub Rock kicks things off with volcanic energy, Today is remarkably beautiful, and Disarm disarms me with a smile

It's an excellent album . Though it veers towards the metal side of things, not my favorite genre, from time to time, it dies so with a lack of bombast. The song remains the raison d'etre and the songs are generally catchy and melodic. I generally don't lo e the guitar sound but certainly not intolerable in context. 4.5 🌟

Such a good album

So, so much more enjoyable & listenable then Mellon Collie. Solid, propulsive rock.

Já conhecia e revisitei! Algumas músicas não me chamam muito a atenção, mas outras são simplesmente umas das melhores músicas do rock dos anos 90, e da história do gênero, de forma geral. Destaque para Cherub Rock, Hummer e Soma.

My favorite Pumpkins albums. This thing is truly legendary.

This is a rock masterpiece. Both 1) of a particular time, and 2) timeless. Mayonnaise is the underdog here and, for this listener, the beating heart of the album (along with Disarm). Corgan may be a bit of a douchebag, but he's also a fuckin' genius.

Un merescut clàssic dels 90. Els pasatges instrumentals, la ràbia postadolescent, el so convulsiu i algunes cançons especialment inspirades fan d'ell un dels discos més definitoris del so del rock alternatiu de la década

F it, love me some pumpkins

The best album of the 1990s.

Done good tracks. Rest patchy.

Good album! Felt like a classic.

Had this on tape as a 15 year old - never hugely grabbed me then. I think I prefer it now, but not likely to listen to it again. Great, thick, heavy guitar sound.

Nowosc na liscie w postacie pumpkinsow, czyli jednego z filarow hamerykanskiego grunda/alternatywy/indyjskosci.lamanej przez popowy sukces, samemu bande kojarze jedynie z hitowych kawalkow i epickiego dwugodzinnego albumu mellon collie i nieskonczona smutnosc, ale dzisiaj na tapecie siamese dream z roku 93, ktory jest drugim krazkiem w dyskografii bandy, 62 minuty na 13 trakach, ktore sa tak przepakowane gitarowo, ze nie da sie po jednym odsluchaniu uslyszec calego traka, niekotre kawalki maja ponad 30 overdubow gitarowych, a gitary pumpkinowe to efekty na efektach, zarowno Corgana jak i Jamesa Iha, bo obaj slyna z wyszukiwania jak najbardziej oryginalnych brzmien, o ile na melankoli byly miejsca ciezkie gitarowo, tak tutaj latwiej ciezko o brak takich miejsc, wyjatkami sa kawalki spaceboy czy koncowka plyty luna i sweet sweet, czuje ze odbilem sie lirycznie od tej plyty, bo nie mam pojecia o czym moze byc, jak wiekszosc tworczosci Corgana jest to muzyka smutna, bo nieudane zwiazki, dziecinstwo abusowane, twarde narkotyki, samobojowe nastroje, ale nie ma tu tego czegos co oczarowalo mnie gdy sluchalem melakoli, mozna sie spuszczac nad tym jak ta plyta nie brzmi ile napracowanka w tak wylejerowane brzmienie, ale jak prosty chlopak z debicy bardziej ciesza mnie mniej skomplikowane kompozycje jak spaceboy, ktory ma byc o autystycznym mlodszym bracie billa, wiec tez wholesone motyw w porownaniu z chocby majonezowym giberiszem, ktory znowu prezentuje to warstwowane brzmienie, tak czy inaczej ciekawy odsluch, na plejke leci today jako reprezentant nie az tak corganowego mooda, soma lejerowanie definujace brzmienie plyty i spaceboy za bycie akustyczna odmiana krazka

No one else really sounds like Corgan at his best

5 This album brings me a tone of dream to memories that became raw by the way sometimes our actions decay in something less ideal and more true, but it still invites me to try and rediscover the dream, the emotions, the simple actions, what lasts and that's always a glimpse of what it is. The album reminds me people I like, and how "Soma" felt lovely and surprised me when I first listened to the song on the radio long years ago, driving home in a silent tired sleepy peaceful night.

A masterpiece. Beautiful, heartfelt music.

It's pretty decent I guess. 6/10

Maybe I listened to this record too late. But you can tell which bands were influenced by this record and all of the subsequent pop-culture that came out immediately around its release. I'd listen to it again but probably wouldn't buy the record.

It was ok, I found it a bit bland with nothing much to recommend it apart from the ones that I remember from back in the day, that were bangers when they came out (Today and Disarm).

Cool j'aime bien certaines instrus et ça me fait penser à d'autres trucs des 90s mais bof fan du chanteur chansons prefs : hummer, soma et luna

The first album I ever bought myself was not this one, but it was Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness. This is a great flashback.

It's OK - an album and artist that was in the ecosystem but which I never felt the need to engage with

3/5

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A classic, great melodies, 4.5 /5

not really my type of music but def see the appeal

Listening this album makes me feel 15 again, but only in the good ways.

This is just a great album through and through. The big hits (Today, Disarm) are great and the non-singles are just as good if not better. Mayonnaise is just amazing, but even better if you're in a brooding state of mind. Some of the songs might not quite be 5 star level, but the ones that are more than make up for it.

Amazing start to finish.

I had not heard the whole thing before, but I recognize a lot of the songs. I enjoyed it

It's ok

Far more listenable than I had initially envisioned. Some of the tracks are quite mellow and enjoyable, others not so much. Wouldn’t necessarily listen to it again but I did enjoy it

Great to listen to!

This album is a solid grunge album I want to listen to it again

Just the kind of 90's I like to run into

Surprisingly good

Decent

Very stylistically diverse album. You'll find everything here, from more ethereal dream pop to effect dense shoegaze and heavier grunge. Which might be the reason this album has garnered quite a bit of mainstream success as opposed to more pure shoegaze records.

Great album, flows really well, numerous great songs, "Today" probably my favourite. I would definitely add to my physical music collection.

today was a huge deal when it came out, and it's a pretty good song, as is disarm; mayonnaise is the winner off this one for me, though. as a personal disclaimer, i am now and have always been a huge sucker for dreamy vocals and crunchy-washy guitars...which is, of course, their whole sound. that said...i've always kinda thought billy was just a bit of a tool, which makes it harder to really love their music. ...but this is still pretty durn good.

Classic

Yup. It’s a great rock album.

This is an absolute monster of an album. “Today” is such a beautiful, tragic song. Peak Corgan sad boi brilliance. The whole thing is a solid listen all the way through, love it!

Great album.

I don't rank Smashing Pumpkins as low as Foo Fighters or RHCP when it comes to arbitrarily beloved but overplayed and overrated 90s bands that have made this list, but they're in that category. This album holds up a bit better than the overlong, overblown Mellon Collie and its headache-inducing compression, but it's still just kind of... meh. A sacred cow of 90s alt rock that really should be skewered and laid to rest. Just because something's popular doesn't mean it's great - the Pumpkins sit in this weird spot in between the grunge scene, shoegaze, and the slightly gothy industrial rock of NIN and Manson, making them a bit of a lowest common denominator of 90s alternative rock. Maybe the should have committed more to a distinctive sound that didn't rely on Billy Corgan's signature nasal delivery?

Too hard and monotone

Decent

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Excellent album.

Absolute classic 90s alt album. Lyrically deep and musically dense. I love how layered it is. You can really hear the MBV influence.

Awesome album I have listened to it before but would listen to it over and over. This is my kind of music so it was a good start to this journey!

This album meanders in places which is why I dropped a star, but damn me if it isn't worth 4 stars for Cherub Rock, Today and Disarm. I'm not the most ardent of Smashing Pumpkins fans due to Billy and the gang disappearing up their own bottoms for the next few albums. This album however is a testament to blend of sounds the band embraced, from Grunge to metal to Dream pop, Sonic Youth style noise and R.E.M.-like sensitivity.

4.34 Quintessential early '90s alt-rock album. Shoutout to the first minute of the track Soma— it made me stop working just to repeat and listen to it again. Trancelike in the best sense possible.

Some good ones. Good nostalgia.

I don't know. Although it's definitely my type of music, I was never too fond of the smashing pumpkins. Don't hate it, but don't love it either. 3/5

The combination of drums, lyrics and guitar was just perfect.

5+, great sound, great memories, great album. Still play it from time to time

I always choose for Gish and had not listened to this album fo many years. Never expected at the time that the Pumpkins would become so big. I thought they would reach a status like The Pixies or Sonic Youth but they went stadium-style starting with this album, without making any concessions to their music. OK, the production is more radio-friendly than Gish. But that's a big plus: this is one of the best-produced albums ever, the guitars on this album sounded great and they still do! And the songs are great too - unlike the OK Computer album from a few days ago, there is no single weak song on it. The lyrics are mwah but at least they are not annoying like on The Downward Spiral, so fine.

That feeling of nineties nostalgia. Brilliant album from start to finish.

I owned this tape and I listened to it too much. I saw the Smashing Pumpkins live and had a t-shirt. It inspired an older man who wanted to talk to me about Sartre. But here's the thing - the first half (side A) of Siamese Dream is decent, but everything after the tape flip is not as good. Also, while "Soma" is the best song, the best version of it is when the band played it live and Darcy sang the "close ur eyes and sleep" part, rather than Corgan doing his own backing on the album version. nearly 30 years on, I can't relate to the lyrical topics anymore, the teen drama seems best left in the 90s. It's a good album but I don't need it anymore.

This is the album i think of when asked what the US Alternative music scene sounded like in the 90's. Its a bigger rock sound than most of their contemporaries attempted. They led the transition of Alt rock bans moving from the bars to the stadiums maintaining an underachiever vibe but borrowing hooks from classic stadium rock bands, all underpinned by powerful songwriting. All that is missing is a decent rock singers voice. He's like a pound shop Kurt Cobain. 4/5

Maybe not the greatest day I’ve ever known, but up there

3.25

middle school days, great album

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atmospheric alt rock

Good music from billy

I had a Siamese dream once. 2 vaginas quite the treat. Not to forget there was 4 tits. Like total recall but with an extra tit. Basically I masturbated while watching total recall and it got a bit weird.

never gave the smashing pumpkins the time of day, probably because the singles that were big are fucking wet and i'm pretty sure the singer is some sort of weird nonce. there's a healthy amount of fuzz going on which is nice, but the over arching feeling is that this is fanny music and the more i listen to it the more i think he's a creepy nonce. weird cos its got all the elements to be great but i got bored of it and i can't stress how much i don't like his noncy wailing. fucking atrocious name too.

Pumpkin fuckers. Just in time for Halloween.

Billy Corgan - tactically inept cabbage head.

Meh

Wow, wasn’t prepared to like this as much as I did. They got SO HYPED UP later in their career that I just refused to pay attention to them. I’ve never listened to the whole album before, even though individual tracks are basically my youth’s soundtrack. Very Seattle grunge. It really holds up as a sound of an era.

OMG, this album used to mean so much to me. I've already played it to death, but here we go.

The Pumpkins have largely passed me by over the years. I'm not even that familiar with the hits; It took me two tracks before I hooked onto the tune of Today. And now in quantity the appeal of the music is more obvious: There's a balance of styles, noisy and poppy not by turns but together. I have too much of a bias against the hint of grunge to fully love the record, but as it explodes into Silverfuck I appreciate the musicality. If I can trick myself into hearing the vocal affect as the legacy of hard rock I may be able to fully enjoy the band.

Well it's got to be one of the best album openings ever! Cherub Rock is an all time classic. Quiet is then good, as a technical show of hands, with some weird time signature stuff going on. Then you get Today, which is one of the best songs ever! Obviously drops off from here, but Hummer is a rare good long song. Rocket is less exciting, but then Disarms big epic beautiful sad balladry wins you back! Soma opens feeling like a Mogwai track. It's like the comedown from the previous tracks big bold production. It goes small and internal, very nicely. After this, it never hits such great heights again... But I'd say it had probably done enough already.

Siamese Dreams by Smashing Pumpkins (1993) Smashing Pumpkins (probably better titled “The Billy Corgan Project”) deliver a signature sound on this album. The Corgan sound is characterized by a near-symphonic texture of guitar overdubbing and the idiosyncratic lead vocals of Mr. Corgan, driving a message of cathartic honesty that borders on the uncomfortable, if not narcissistic. The lyrics are nearly embarrassing (for the listener, not Corgan) for their transparency and reckless lack of reserve, but that feature does little harm because Corgan’s abandonment of diction makes the words (sans lyrics sheet) all but indecipherable anyway. His voice alternates between two timbres, which are both substandard and extraordinarily interesting at the same time. One timbre is airy and elvish; the other is whiny and harsh. Supply your own synonyms. It is a voice that is well suited the very limited melodies Corgan has composed, which are all-too-heavily reliant on favorite intervals and loopy slurs. Blah. Having said that, this is still a very good album, if for no other reason than the technical excellence of the sound. It is galvanizing and pleasing. Hard driving rock riffs are layered over and over with multiple electric rhythm guitar tones. This record reveals the beauty of rock guitar. And while the technique could have been monotonous, this foundational Corgan sound is flavored with striking and innovative variety, including well performed if understated solos. The solo section at 3:04 on “Mayonaise” (sic) is great. And I don’t even like mayonnaise. One extraordinary highlight on this album is the integration of elements of symphony orchestra on “Disarm” and “Luna”. On these two tracks, strings are not simply added as background—they are woven into the composition itself. They actually become more magnetic than the melody and lyrics. Drummer Jimmy Chamberlain is flat-out excellent (listen to track #11!). Guitarist James Iha and bassist D’arcy Wretsky, however, are not even utilized on almost half of these tracks, on which those parts are performed by (you guessed it) Corgan himself. I suppose Iha and Wretsky were needed for live performances of these songs, however. It’s worth celebrating their humility in accepting such an arrangement. 4/5

4/5

Solid album with some good hits. But the sound of it gets pretty repetitive after a while. I enjoy the vibe that it has, but it relies on that vibe a bit too heavily.

Oh my god, I hate Fuzz and this album is full of it. Very bad production as well. Vocals are pretty boring, but recognisible.

Het eerste nummer begint meteen met het bekende "stofzuiger" geluid, monotone ruis. Nee, dit album gaat hem niet worden. Ik erger me niet echt aan iets, als is de zang niet heel aangenaam, maar in het algemeen is het een soort van langzame punkrock of zo. Heeft af en toe iets van Nirvana, maar toch ook weer niet. Mijn favoriet is "Today". ***

A bit too rock for me

Also wasnt wild about this despite the fact that its such a cult favorite. Maybe next time...

I don't like alternative Rock and grunge, but this album - is exeption. Really great thing. The Best Composition - "Soma"

Great album - I knew the big hits, the ones with music videos, but the stuff deeper into the album is great as well. Geek USA got my 10 year old headbanging.

First Listen. I knew a couple of songs. Some good stuff here. I like it. 2/5 for now.

Big fan! Especially love Cherub Rock

I was a Melon Collie guy in high school but this is probably closer to my favourite Pumpkins album. It has most of my favourites (Disarm, Today, Cherub) and really enjoyed Silverfuck too

The alt rock album of the 90s. The musicianship on this album is incredible. I’m particularly a big fan of the lead guitar lines and Jimmy Chamberlin’s drumming. Furthermore, Billy Corgan has a gift for melody that cuts through the albums heaviest moments

Often overshadowed by Mellon Collie, Pumpkins 2nd album is a great listen.

Billy Corgan is a true guitar hero. He rips through this album with ferocity coming out of his fingertips. Even the more tender acoustic tracks feel at times like the guitar is under attack during the most emotional moments. And he sings with power and emotion. The whole band sounds great here, and the album rocks extremely hard.

I've forgotten how great this album is. Billy Corgan, mad genius that he is has pretty much spoiled all good will the Pumpkins earned. The 90s grunge sound is credited with being born in the PacNW. Chicago's Smashing Pumpkins expand that area with this album. 4.5/5

One of those bands that would be legends if they had a different singer. The album is still great though, closer. High 3, closer to 4 so that's why I'm rounding up.

Not my type of music 2/5

Knew this album already – lovely emo softness

This is an album I have pretty mixed feelings on. Cherub Rock is a great song, and there are a few others in there as well. It's a bit too long overall, but still nowhere near as bad as Mellon Collie (which is like 2 hours haha). On the flipside, some of it heads into that shoegazey, alt-rock territory that I don't really like. Corgan's alright when he sounds angry, but when he sounds whiny it's pretty grating. The guitar tone has no meat to it, which matches his voice well - but again, small doses. It's also a real good bit of evidence that the term "grunge" made absolutely no fuckin' sense. It sounds almost nothing like Nirvana or Mudhoney or Soundgarden or Pearl Jam (and none of them really sounded alike either). This has more in common with My Bloody Valentine than Alice in Chains. I listen to a couple of songs from this in other playlists anyway, but I don't think I'd do the full album again. As a whole it doesn't have enough oomph. Still, 3/5.

Guitars are so sexy. But Billy is a little annoying.

Smashing pumpkins is one of those bands that on paper I should love - alternative grunge with thoughtful lyrics and creative song writing. But honestly I just haven’t gotten into them, other than the flagship songs. Although I prefer Mellon Collie to Siamese Dream probably because the former had more energy

Disarm is the song that made me discover Smashing Pumpkins. Love the fuzzy guitars

Not heard this album before, enjoyed it but not one I'll go back to 3

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Great

A lot of TSP's songs sound very similar, so I typically don't realize just how many of them I really enjoy.

Sick, first 2 tracks are proper 90s grunge, big fan. Always wanted to give these guys more of a listen/try so lookin forward to the rest of this one. Feels like a high3 so round up to a 4 so far. Yeh 4/5, enjoyed it.

Solid production, but not quite for me. Don't think I've ever listened through a full album of theirs, and it just doesn't resonate.

Gish was about to takeoff and was eclipsed by Nevermind and then Siamese Dream was released. The Pumpkins really took off with Infinite Sadness which was their most polished and seemed to give everything to everyone. The relevance of the Pumpkins lies in Gish and Siamese Dream, even Pisces Iscariot to an extent (Landslide cover rivals the original). Soft and suspenseful song opens turn to raucous distortion and loose chaos. Similar to Infinite Sadness, there is range and it's not all gnarled mayhem and anarchy on SD. While Billy Corgan seems like a monster, Sweet Sweet is beautiful; the intro to Mayonaise; beautiful, Soma; lovely even Rocket's song open calms with a wonderful distorted repeater riff. Musically, every song is evocative despite the lyrics. From the first track... the slow peppy build to furious excitement is incredible. However, if there's one thing that I dislike about this album it's the song Disarm. What a blugh downer song. It sounds like Eeyore wrote it. And then there's the lyric... I always thought the lyric was "cut that little child, SODOMY is such a part of you" uhhhh BUZZKILL - you can't put that word and 'child' in a song!! WTF? (... though today the lyrics read "...cut that little child, INSIDE OF ME and such a part of you"). I dunno, Billy Corgan has always seemed to be a tortured artist with a bullhorn that's never big enough. Regardless, I've got a lot of great memories tied to this album. It was on repeat for months when I moved out and was living downtown Richmond. I may have evolved some (not much) but to me, this album will always be relevant.

"Siamese Dream" is pretty tortured. I'm not tortured now, and don't think I was in the 90s (although most teens feel tortured to some extent?), certainly not like Corgan (with abuse during his childhood and recent relationship issues framing much of early Pumpkins), but damned if this album doesn't just do it for me anyway. I really like this album, maybe even more than I did in the 90s. It is intense and filled with agonized passion - it's raw and exposed and vulnerable and electric - both in subject matter and musical vibe. Like a lot of 90s alt-rock and grunge, the lyrics are poetic and often indecipherable, but it doesn't matter (to me). Breathy when it needs to be breathy, screaming earnestly at just the right peaks. James Iha's guitar (though apparently Corgan was super controlling in the studio and recorded everyone's parts himself) is alternatingly crunchy, soaring, soft - for some tracks they apparently layered and overdubbed the guitar parts dozens of times. Whatever that means, they get an amazing rich sound out of it. Pretty sure back in the day I put on my headphones and zoned out to this album like Mitch at the end of "Dazed and Confused." (This is not the album on this list that I would have expected to be the first to make me think of that top 5 of all-time movie, but I am sure it won't be the last.) The first half of the album is filled with gems, hitting a crescendo with "Disarm," brilliant and haunting with its orchestral build hinting at the softer direction for parts of "Mellon Collie." But they interweave hard-edged rage with soft emotional rawness seamlessly in numerous places, even better on "Siamese Dream" than on "Mellon Collie." Smashing Pumpkins stands out sonically from other early 90s alt-rock - it doesn't really fit with the Northwest grunge sound, doesn't fit with punk rock, doesn't fit with lo-fi shoegaze, Smashing Pumpkins really carved their own unique space.

As far as 90s alt rock bands go, I like the sound of Smashing Pumpkins better than many others (ie., Nirvana, STP). Still, I can't help wishing that their albums showed more range. Aside from the couple of hits on this album, much of the rest of the songs sound largely the same, and much the same as the weaker songs on MC&TIS. That said, Billy Corgan is in great voice on these tracks and the band is tight behind him. Taking the best of these songs and playing them with the best of MC&TIS makes for a damn fine "album" of 90s angst rock, and I'd more likely take that approach than to listen to either album in their entirety.

While, as others have pointed out, this album is less polished than melancholy, I find that to be a point in its favor. I like that’s it’s a little more raw, a little more rough around the edges. I love this album. I find Disarm to be hauntingly beautiful. All in all, this album is so quintessentially 90s and yet has so many levels it keeps me coming back.

We already listened to Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness and this album is not as good. It’s less polished. More sloppy. For instance, the guitar solos in Quiet and Geek U.S.A. feel overindulgent. I do like the rocking’ guitar on Geek U.S.A. Cherub Rock is good. As is Today. Then again, I could do without Mayonaise and Spaceboy. It’s a mixed bag for me.

Such a great album. Cherub rock is an incredible opener that sets the rest up perfectly

3/5 okeyish, but not after all

I was sort of dreading this one because I absolute hate the vocalist's way of singing on the songs I've heard. Sure enough, the singing was pretty bad, but actually not nearly as bad as I had feared. To my even bigger surprise, the song writing, song structuring and instrumentation were fantastic. With a good singer, this could easily have been a 5. As is, it's a 3.5 for me. Rounded up because it surprised me so much.

Bangin album

Strong first half of the album, back half leaves something to be desired.

Starts off with what I think to be their best song and maintains a level of good throughout.

Great "Sloging" riffs. Found them way more listenable the older I get. Very DIY sounding. Overall an enjoyable, "headbanger" album if you're in the mood.

There's some really good songs on this album (Cherub Rock, Today, Disarm) but overall it's pretty boring. 3.5 stars.

"Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins." "Homer Simpson, nodding politely." This is the best album that Smashing Pumpkins made and one of the most iconic albums in alternative rock history and a relic of the 90s.

Great

I'm just not a huge fan of Smashing Pumpkins. It's a whiny kind of 90s which, admittedly, does have some good stuff to it (Disarm is a nice song). So, this counts as more of a midrange album.

Today - First riff I ever played on guitar. The fuzzy harmonies of Cherub Rock's guitar.

A very fine album muscular with memorable melodies. I like it a lot.

I had heard most of these before but it’s still a great album

Decent album, runs a bit too long and slows down a bit in the second half.

Couldn't make it through. I found his voice unbearable. the instrumentation wasn't horrible, and I see how People would enjoy it. But not for me in the slightest.

Mayonaise wow

Good stuff.