Metal Box

Another let down - I'm a big fan of avant-garde and music that's a little more out-there, however this record was directionless. It wasn't bad, but even worse than that was it left no real impression on me whatesoever

What a turn of events ole Johnny Rotten here. I really like the avant garde turn here. It isn’t the best album I’ve ever heard but if you look at when it came out it’s such an odd change of pace. Perfectly fine music, even sometimes enjoyable.

John Lydon had abandoned punk when he left The Sex Pistols and had already pioneered post-punk with PiL's debut album 'First Issue'. Here, the band fully embraces the avant-garde. This is particualarly evident in Lydon's bizarre (and slightly off-putting) vocal style. The original packaging, while being novel, actually created (intentionally?) a frustrating experience where listeners struggled to get the records out of the tin case. German band Can is a major influence here though not 'Metal Box' isn't as good as Can's best work. The hero of this album is bassist Jah Wobble. Bassists don't usually get that much praise, but his dub rhythms come out in full force on this album. If anything keeps the listener engaged, it's Wobble. This album also introduces PiL's fantastic drummer, Martin Atkins, though only on one track as he joined in the middle of recording. Overall, this record will annoy a lot of people. It's not something you'd play at a party or a relaxing Sunday afternoon. But it's an interesting one and there is some brilliance among the weirdness of it. A landmark post-punk album.

This isn’t the first album I’ve listened to by Public Image Ltd. It’s also not the first time I’ve gotten them muddled up with Public Enemy. They’re a bit different to each other, yet I can’t seem to separate them. I quite enjoyed the self titled album of their’s, so let’s hope this one is good! Songs I already knew: none Favourites: Albatross, Swan Lane This is the type of album that I can enjoy, but can also completely understand if a different person hates it. It’s really apathetic punk music, where it sounds like the band really don’t care much about what they’re doing. The vocals are about what you’d expect from Johnny Rotten, and the music is something you’d be able to learn to play in about 5 minutes. Sounds nice though.

Some days the app kicks out an album that makes me ask if this is a joke. This is one of those.

equal parts boring and interesting. would have gotten a much higher rating with better vocals and lyrics.

I want to like this more than I do. It’s heavily indebted to music I love, like Can and others in the Krautrock scene. As I listen, though, I’m reminded of conversation I once had with a co-worker regarding my ambivalence towards Radiohead, despite their appreciation of Can. My coworker said to me, “It’s surprising that you’re not a big Radiohead fan, because they’re really influenced by Can”. My response, exaggerated in order to make a humorous point, was, “I appreciate the influence Can had on them, and I don’t think Radiohead is bad, but saying that I should love Radiohead because they’re influenced by Can is a bit like saying I should love Whitesnake because they’re influenced by Led Zeppelin”. We both laughed. That’s more or less how i feel about Public Image Limited, I appreciate where they’re coming from, but it doesn’t really hit the mark for me.

Rhythm section was cool... made it at least listenable despite the guitarist's and vocalist's efforts

Listened to this before and I didn't like/get it. I love it now. The bass lines are catchy, punchy, and the squad loves to go in different sonic directions. Fun n great

Vocal really let this one down. Instrumental was fun, but just too long

I loved the Pistols, this was a dirge.

Didn’t think much of it based on the first song. By half way through the album I could see how a band like this has influenced many of the other bands I listen to that would follow in the years to come. Overall not my fave album but going to give it the credit it deserves.

made me uncomfortable

One of my favorite albums. A haunting display of atonal pieces that evoke feelings of fear and anxiety, completely unpredictable in direction and approach. The tracks are bleak yet somewhat minimalist. The bass and drums are rhythmic and repetitive, with only the chorus-heavy screeching guitar, metallic synths, and Rotten's wailing as being abrasive and off-putting. To many, this can be enough to put them off. But it grows relatively quickly. After several listens, I found his vocals, the synths, and guitar to meddle into a softer harmony that I find entrancing and somewhat beautiful. But everyone plays extraordinarily well. Jah Wobble's dark bass is what primarily sticks out and defines these tracks, with several drummers playing their own styles ranging from sporadic to simple and constant. For innovation and empathogenic qualities, it receives top remarks. The track ordering is perfect too, with "Albatross" setting the mood, slowly and carefully, followed by several anti-pop loud and catchy tracks. The album closes with "No Birds" picking up the insanity, "Chant" reaching the peak that'll drive anyone insane, and suddenly making a 180 into the uncomfortably pleasant and serene "Radio 4" that just keeps going despite the false endings. My only reason for giving it 4 stars is that the second half is a dip in quality. I love them and they leave an impression, but the run from "Socialist" to "No Birds" often has me spacing out with how tamer they are. "The Suit" and "Bad Baby" in particular contribute almost nothing and just pad out time. I wish they stood out to me as much as any of the first 5.

Demasiado repetitivo, canciones largas cuya duración no aporta nada. Las lineas de bajo y algunos riffs de guitarra tiene su merito, pero la voz es terrible. En general la producción suena mal. Quiza su nivel de influencia le juegue a favor pero escucharlo completo es tedioso.

Had some instrumental bits that had a nice pep and sound to them, but the vocals I found to be terrible.

Une expérience pour le moins étonnante... Débute avec Albatross, et si la basse est très bonne, le reste n'est que torture : guitare grinçante comme une craie sur un tableau noir, Johnny Lydon qui chante en boucle des paroles approximatives. Et ça dure plus de 10 minutes. Le reste est un poil plus accueillant. Ca doit être intéressant d'un point du vue historique, une plongée dans les traumas d'un homme torturé, un geste artistique total, mais je vais laisser ça aux mecs de pitchfork. Le clavier de “Bad baby” est une blague. Et s'il y a bien quelque chose de pire que lorsqu'il chante, ce sont les instrumentaux (“Graveyard”, “Socialist”). Je me suis marré, donc 2 quand même.

Not for me

couldn't find this specific album, but I found another one from 1979. It is old school punk stuff. OK, but not exciting

Indispensable del punk

this doesnt work for me. I tried but its not a fit for me! the british accent, the voice and everything else is not a match for me. An Album with no need to revisit. The biggest song of the album according to spotify was for me not in the slightest way likeable. Careering, chant was good somehow (compared to the album). Bro what is happening on No Birds. It sounds like the vocals dont even fit to the song, like it wasnt even recorded with trying to fit. Graveyard, socialist and Radio 4 was also good (no vocals). The Highs are mid and the lows are low 1.5/5.0

Pretty interesting post punk. Long songs. Instrumentals. Pretty good.

pretty good. pretty weird.

Post-Punk with a menacing tone. Super heavy bass, piercing guitars, and Johnny snarling. Delightful.

In 2024 it sounds so bad, like some kind of demo or rehearsal of some garage band. Easily 1/5.

Reading some of the reviews and ratings on this ground breaking album you would wonder why it is inculded here. And I get how difficult a listen it is for someone coming at it new. But in 1980 when I was 18 and thirsting for "new" sounds that broke boundaries, Second Edition as it was called in Canada was food to a starving man. My lasting impression of this album and Public Image Limited in general is watching them perform Poptones on Amesican Bandstand to a stunned, uncomfortable and perhaps even fearful live audience. For me it ranks up there with The Clash on Fridays, Elvis Costell and the Attractions on SNL and Future Islands on Letterman as the best Television perfomances I've ever seen. Yes it's a difficult listen, especially sides 3 and 4, and the music is unconventional and jarring and the singing annoying and off key. Taken on it's face I get a 1 or 2 rating, but taken in the context of its time and place this is important ground-breaking music. 4 stars

not really my taste but appreciate the out of the box experimentation. will check out some of their other tunes.

Punk rock post sex pistols. a bit underwhelming for me.

Some of the songs might be too long. But I loved others

This is the first album I've come across that I do not like. Seriously, at all. Scratchy vocals that are out of tune. Guitar riffs and keys that make no sense. The only possibly redeeming quality is some of the bass line is decent. Other than that, no thanks. Didn't make it past the first few songs.

This is garbage. Zero stars is not available, so I must give it one star.

Rock/Techno sound

PIL was much better in the 80’s/90’s. I think that I could pick up an electric, strum a few chords and sound as good as the guitar on this album. 70’s London post-punk is just not that great.

It sounds like giving a baby a microphone while having a tantrum. I like long songs but these were not good because it was the whole album

Ok there is a reason nobody likes experimental type music except for the "enlightened" music critics. It's because it sucks and is painful on the ears. Music shouldn't be a slog to have to get through or something you must force yourself to endure. That is exactly what this album (I feel like even calling it that is hurtful to other albums out there) was, a painful, slow, agonizing experience. John Lydon's voice is worse than Bob Dylan's (wow I know I can't believe it either). The songwriting was terrible as well. If you could understand the lyrics (which is a big if) they made zero sense for many of the songs. The guitar is screechy and shrill the whole time and entirely too bright and tinny. The drums are completely forgettable. The bass is the only non agonizing piece to this album but it's also quite boring (but at least not bad). This was the musical equivalent of Birdemic (if you know you know).

all I hear are disjointed sounds and instruments. nope, nope, nope

Shit box

Boxed my ears

Punky and fun. 4 stars.

Skipped half of the first track, gave up quickly on the second. Too weird for me today.

Primo first lp from PIL

Challenging, dissonant and overwhelmingly unejoyable which I assume is exactly what he was going for

this was alright!

I am not really into post-punk, and this album did not resonate at all. I gave this 2 stars (not 1 because a couple of the tracks were OK).

Had really cool elements to it didn't love the vocals.

I found this a little too boring and long.

Outstanding post-punk album. Noisy and strident in the best way. Fantastically jarring, jagged guitars and twisted disco rhythms. Somewhat obscure, unsettling lyrics. Fave Songs: Swan Lake, Graveyard, Memories, No Birds

Listened to about half. But I do love Rise from another album

I appreciate how this album was wildly creative and original from its time, but I just can't bring myself to enjoy these repetitive dead synthy drum beats, atonal guitar wails, and off-key musing vocals. feels like one of those krautrock psychedelic albums, except stripped of anything that was deemed 'too interesting'. overall feels like a bunch of ironic teenagers made some intentionally bad music to troll the masses. that being said there's some groovy ideas, and I'm glad this media exists I guess 1.5/5

A little too experimental for my prog rock tastes.

This is really fucking ugly so far but I really like the guitar lines on Albatross. Almost hypnotic. The Suit is standard punk subject matter but it sounds as boring as what it’s describing and it works. Most other songs I checked out of tbh. I I’ve never heard a Sex Pistols or PIL album prior to this so I don’t have a reference point but this was alright.

Of the first fifteen albums I've listened to from this generaor, this is the first one where I've had to spend all day reconciling how I feel about it. It's not like the others, where I give 'em, two, one-and-a-half, or even just one runthrough and I know. This one, though... I ended up interogating a lot of different topics to try and get to how I felt. "Did I listen to it wrong? Should I have listened to it in bursts and out of order, like how it was originally released?" "Was I just in the right head space, in this weird moment between accidentally falling asleep for an hour, waking up feeling off, and knowing I was gonna go to bed in another two hours? Did I not pay enough attention, even then?" "What about all of the praise critics have given it? Why's there such a divide between the 100% approval rating from them and low 2 from the people here on this website?" "Is it just because I'm not into post-punk?" "What's even the point of lists like this or the Rolling Stone 500? Does rating these albums even matter?" "How does my rating system even work?" I went on like this until I reached two conclusions: firstly, in general I'm just bad at quantifying my opinion down to a single number. Like, all of those questions, and more I didn't list, were just to figure out if I was gonna give this thing a 2 or a 3. I had no idea which number better represented how I felt. And even if decimals were allowed and I could split the difference at 2.5, would that even still accurately reflect how I feel about it? Then there's the second point, which is, simply, "What's the point in putting in overthinking your rating so much when by 00:15 the next day you'll be on to the next album?" It doesn't matter, ultimately. Just pick one and move on. So let's just finally move onto my opinion, huh? Enough blabbering. On the one hand, I feel like I get METAL BOX, or SECOND EDITION, whatever you wanna call it. I actually kind of click with what it's going for, musically. I mean, for one, the dub bass is fantastic. Absolutely the best part of the album, and all of the praise in the world to Jah Wobble for it. And, I mean, you combine that with the guitar, and... I'unno. It kind of reminds me a pre-evolved Primus? Switch out the dub bass for virtuosic slap funk and have more conventional song structures, and sure. Hell, I even really enjoyed "Socialist", "Careering", and the turn to relaxing synths for the closer "Radio 4". I can find a lot of good moments scattered throughout. But, note: scattered throughout. There's pieces and songs here and there I like. But on the whole? On the whole, I feel like it's too long. Which, yeah, relates back to the earlier question about if I listened to this wrong: this was supposed to be listened to in bursts, ten minutes at a time. Sitting down with it for the full hour was never how it was intended to be listened to. But even accepting that and disregarding its total length as a criticism, to put it simply, a lot of it just doesn't interest me. Whatever anti-rock experiments they were going for... Just didn't do it for me. I can tell why most folks here checked out after "Albatross". I mean, of course if I sat with it longer and truly let it sink in I'd maybe grow to like it more. But with only one chance to rate this album before I have another one I hafta spend the day considering... I jus' gotta go with my gut. It's a 2. Part of me doesn't like that, since I feel like experimental in particular gets a bad rap from this website's users, but whatever. "Wha'cha gonna do," eh? All I can hope for is that I like the next album better.

One of The Albums of all time.

i liked it better when he wasn't singing

Evaluating this for influence and enjoyability, leads to a low rating.

Absolute rubbish! John Lydon’s vocals are excruciatingly bad. The backing music might actually be good for all I know, but John’s incessant caterwauling drowns it all out. Never heard a worse album in my life, and I’ve listened to Duck Stab.

I feel like punk is a ‘you had to be there’ genre.

Horrific

Utter dross. Would have got more pleasure bangging my head against a wall for a hour. I probably would have lost less brain cells that way as well. If you are reading this before listening please dont. Save your self a hour and do something constructive Also who starts a album with a 10 minute song!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dull dull dull dull dull. Nothing for me here of any interest.

The bass work on this album is the only positive I got out of it but that really doesn’t save it when everything else is so fucking terrible. Might be good background music at the most sleazy biker bar ever but that’s it.

This has two different titles

Very very strange. Part of me wants to give it one star but then again I didn’t want to stop it.

Some PiL albums are good. This is not one of them.

If you’re not a PIL fan but want to try to give it an honest listen, I might recommend starting with the last track and working backward. It might make this a little more accessible for you. If you’re me? The cranky, rough, aggressive guitar with the impressive-if-outsider bass coming at you from the mash up of part Sex Pistols and part Clash (rip Keith Levene) scratches an itch for some stretched out post punk. It’s interesting to listen to this with an ear for how this predates Rise but you can definitely feel the “anger is an energy” vibe here. Not gonna lie, this one may try the patience of some. But if you need some cranky but cool and ironic music to accompany a certain feeling of snark with a surprising groove and scratchy vocals? This is a good pick.

So. FUCKING. Bad.

Noisy and weird, but not as good as their first or, obviously, John's previous band. An interesting choice, but probably not one I'll come back to

Underwhelming

Meh too experimental

Definitely not for me. Exhausting.

Some of these songs were good while others had vocals and/or sounded like “that”

If you combine the "I don't give a flying fuck" attitude of punk rock with the worst self-indulgent excesses of progressive rock (minus the musical ability), this is what you get. Repetitive, meandering and pointless. BTW this is my second PiL album in 4 days, what's up with that? At least this one doesn't have John Lydon's stupid face staring at me. 2 stars.

Fuck me. The first song on this album 'Albatros' is 10.54 minutes, which is 10.54 minutes too long. From now on, I'll never be able to see an albatros without projectile vomiting.

could i write poetry to this? n

This album is fine...I like it...But it doesn't belong on this list. The first PiL record pretty much covered it. Two and one-half stars. This spot should have gone to Pere Ubu's "The Modern Dance." It's an equal or better early Punk/Post-Punk/New Wave/No Wave album. You might not like it, but you'd have to acknowledge that it's a more "important" recording.

I’m done listening to PIL. I can’t take anymore of Johnny Rotten.

I actually quite like this garbage. No need for any of the songs to be longer than 3 minutes though. And definitely no reason for this to be an hour long album. Scaled WAY down this would be a fun post-punk party. If the whole thing was 30 minutes long, it'd be a 5.

Never listened to them, he's not a good front man or singer - or songwriter it seems. And it seems I was right, this is proper shite

schwieriges Terrain ! Dazu hab ich keine Meinung oder einfach gesagt, das ist halt John Lyndon !

Schon ein paar Jährchen her, dass mir solche Musik richtig gefallen hätte; die Jammerstimme tat es noch nie

Avant garde postpunk, for irreterende vokal, og få svingende i kvalitetet

Music, quite by definition, decorates time (much how art decorates space). This album is the music equivalent of sprawling mass of mud and rocks heaving slowly down a long mountainside. Even though it technically decorates the landscape, most people could only watch it with boredom or discomfort, and it would be a stretch to call it art. The instruments, individually, are played well, but when put together as a band, they feel incongruent and without passion. The vocal is consistently, uncomfortably out of tune, which might be a staple of the genre but isn't working for this album. Albatross is a slog to get through, with even the bass (which seems to be touted as the crowning sonic achievement of the album) hardly deviating from repeated tonics in an eighth-note rhythm. There's very little material to hook the listener's interest after around three minutes. The unhinged falsetto at the end is probably the best part of the song. The tracks following Albatross are slightly better on account of simply being shorter (and having some good interplay between drums, guitar, and bass, e.g. in Poptones). The songs Poptones and Socialist are highlights because of the guitar/basswork, but the former is much too long. The Suit is very strange, almost like a Syd Barrett or Chats track with a dark bass undertone. Bad Baby is as bad as the baby. Chant is also bad, because it takes repetition to the extreme in an album already overloaded with it. The final track, Radio 4, is far and away the best track on the album, and yet it's merely a semi-good synthy instrumental. Another reviewer stated it best: "Fair play for abandoning the Sex Pistols' sound and exploring new and interesting sonic textures, but this seems like a case of PiL crawling in a slow, ungainly manner so other post-punks could run."

moany but good

The metal box has more value as scrap.

Experimental rock. PUFF. Nada.

Sounds like they started curating random albums here

Interesting that this came out the same year as Unknown Pleasures. This reminds me of my least favorite parts of that album though. Fine post punk but a lot of it sounds like he’s singing from the other room.

I found this boring and repetitive.

This actually makes the Sex Pistols sound good. Johnny Rotten’s voice is just annoying.

drone

Post punk. Extraño.

"Metal Box" by Public Image Ltd. is lauded as being a hallmark classic of the post-punk genre. Formed with lead vocalist John Lydon (previously known as the lead vocalist of Sex Pistols) and guitarist Keith Levene (of The Clash), Public Image Ltd pushed their sound into the avant-garde. This is not a good sound.

I didn't really enjoy this. I can see this being inspirational in a world that is pre post punk, but on its own it was very clunky and boring.

Didn't care too much for this. It was just ok. 2.5/5

That was cool. Merry Christmas! C+

Ich weiß nich… abgefahren aber ich weiß nicht ob gut oder schlecht… okay es wird besser! 3 sterne

Credit to the bass player, but John Lydon's agonizing, out-of-tune vocals and the overall monotonous, cacophonous mess make it an album I certainly would have preferred living without hearing. "But that's the point, don't you get it?!?", a pretentious music snob scoffs at me before disappearing up their own asshole. Sometimes you have to call a spade a spade.

I thought I could give this a 2, but I just can’t. It felt like ages before this finished.

Very meh. Didn't even really notice it.

This is the sound of a British dystopia - but also, while listening to it - I kept on thinking - who is this record for? It sounds like a jam band, and one of the punk's most seminal frontmen warbling above the meandering tracks. But, at the same time, I'm glad it exists? Critic wank and 'had to be there' claimers aside, it's not a great album - maybe groundbreaking at the time, but it's novelty did wear off.

I see how this was an influential album but it was not as enjoyable as their previous album.

To quote my co-judge, "I can't believe that PIL would warrant two albums on 1001!" I agree. Some of the music is interesting but Johnny's abrasive sneering over top is a downer.

Since this is Johnny F'ing Lydon I'm certain that he purposely made these songs as unpleasant and abrasive as possible just to prove a point, and point taken as this was an ice-pick to the ears. Jah Wobble injects his typical infectious dub rhythms but that fails to save this. I guess I could describe this band's sound as Joy Division, but with much less joy and even more gloom.

Yuck. I couldn’t get past the first track.

Public Image Ltd.'s "Metal Box," released in 1979, is a challenging avant-garde experiment.... that made me literally fall asleep. The album's unconventional structure, marked by Jah Wobble's dub-influenced bass lines and John Lydon's abstract vocals, creates a disorienting experience. While innovative, the repetitiveness of the tracks and the overall lack of accessibility may alienate listeners seeking more traditional post-punk. The three 12-inch records packaged in a metal can add to the album's mystique but also contribute to its impracticality. While admired by some for its boundary-pushing nature, "Metal Box" is an acquired taste, earning a modest 2/5 for its limited appeal and experimental extremity.

I like some avant garde in my post punk

I really like the experimental aspect of PIL's music, but I feel that a few songs toward the end could have been left out and it would have made a stronger album. Still, I really enjoyed it.

Man moaning in a microphone on top of untuned guitars.

This album have a some great moments in it, but it's sadly too long winded. It's good to hear post-punk meeting krautrock, tho. The general dark ambiance of Metal Box is also well rendered.

Experimental but still enjoyable. The emotions are palpable in several songs. The drums are plain but driving. The guitars are searching for the tune, and kind of oscillating around it.

Yeah nah. Johnny is just a bit crap I'm afraid.

So tedious I gave up after skipping through a handful of tracks.

I'm disappointed at how awful this is. I like PIL, but not this album.

I guess the people who hate this are just away to listen to their pop tones. Yes, the songs are long. Long songs are cool. I ask you, how else can you get swept up into the intense groove of it all if the song's finished after 3 minutes??! I also don't understand people complaining about the vocals, like you wouldn't expect that dry sheet going in? However, any humour present in the Rotten-era persona has been extracted, made colder, like the cold metal exterior. 1979 was so mental. Punk luminaries such as The Damned and The Clash made great albums this year, but they were still recognisably punk, together with other influences. This, this is...what? Utterly unrecognisable from the sound they were making a year earlier, and utterly unlike pretty much anything else. Speaking of Poptones, that's just incredible. The bass, the rhythm. The insistent dread. Intentionally unsettling, and genius.

"post-punk", sparse drum/guitar instrumentals with whispery and wailey vocals. Last song was kid of orchestral, though

Drugs are a heck of a thing. I'm not sure what went in to this "creative" process, but what a miserable pile of garbage. Literally the only redeeming thing was the bass player. He was killing it. Fav tracks: N/A

Great bass. Mediocre singer.

Can't

Brilliant and grating, Metal Box doesn't smash new glass, opting to tread and retread in glittering patterns. The mix is deranged, the vocals likewise, the rest of the instruments less so. Fitting the album uncomfortably into an ambient mode, still incapable of being background.

His later experiments are listenable, but not this one - i'd prefer to listen to Bollocks 17 times in a row, than ever hear this again

Guitar just attacks your ears. Singing is rotten. Noise everywhere. Was that a synth? What a bewildering experience. 8/10

I have always loved this. Would it be better without Johnny? Probably. But it’s still such an excellent case of groove

Not understanding this one. Just ongoing wailing and general noise.

How many more 70's era proto/post-punk band recommendations must we suffer through?

This is a no from me dog

This list is tough sometimes

Meh

No wonder I've never heard of these lads. Truly awful stuff

do i buy country life butteeeer? actually enjoyed the backing music but lydons vocals made me imagine what it would be like to insert a knitting needle through one ear and out the other.

Shit box

Not every artist who released an album needs to be represented on the list. Not every genre needs a new name assigned to it. Sometimes "shit" is descriptive enough.

I can understand why this is an influential album, it seems to take punk and split it wide open into a sprawling landscape. Some of the songs are a little too long for me but all in all I quite enjoyed this.

One nasty jam session.

Like some tracks more than others, singing can get a bit annoying after a while since it's so "one-note", but I do dig the style. 3.5 to 4.

Decent, but PIL have better stuff than this

About 10 seconds into this album my feeling was "I'm going to like this!" Mostly because I liked the guitar and the groove. It reminded me of pixies and similar bands. But the rest of the album was a letdown. I don't like the vocals. The sound was too monotonous.

A lot of things about this felt like something I should enjoy more than I did.

Other people were doing this better at the time - Joy Division, Bauhaus. And God, John Lydon can't sing.

In the right whiskey fueled stupor, I could see this being the greatest thing ever. In all other situations, it's still quite decent. 🥃🥃🥃

Will never be a favourite but enjoyed it.

It was like Joy Division, but replace everything good about Joy Division with something much, much worse.

Interesting and I can imagine ahead of their time.

Kind of reminds me of something the B-52s would put out as an experimental album.

Not my cup of tea. Reminds me of bad Joy Division.

Hurts my ears

"Metal Box" is the second studio album by English post-punk band Public Imaged Ltd. The music is considered experimental rock, dub, avant-garde and a landmark of post-punk. The album was a departure from their first album being more avant-garde with vocalist John Lydon's cryptic, free-form lyrics, bassist Jah Wobble's dub-inspired rhythms and guitarist Keith Levine's abrasive guitar sound. It was recordered at various locations throughout the UK with multiple drummers. The album title was from the initial packaging which was a metallic canister containing three 12" 45-rpm records. Commercially, it reached #18 on the UK charts. A drum beat begins "Albatross." Here's your abrasive guitar- very high pitched, prancing along and at times off-key sounding. The song was recorded live with Lydon admitting he just free-formed the lyrics. Somehow, this works. A slow bass, an echoing guitar and a hypnotic dance beat introduce us to "Swan Lake (Death Disco)." Lydon screaming/singing as he tells about the death of his Mother from cancer. Levine said he was trying to play the Tchaikovsky ballet score "Swan Lake" and created an extremely unique melody. It's chaotic. A fantastic song and for me, the first song I think of when I hear post-punk. "Poptones" has an odd drum beat. The abrasive metallic guitar and prodding bass in the background. Lydon talking the real story of a girl kidnapped, put in a van and led the police to the van after describing the music which the van still had the cassette of in it. Levine's guitar melody was created as he was inadvertently playing Yes' "Starship Trooper." The band goes totally electronic in "Careering." A propet synth was used and we get laser sounds, sounds from outer space and other sounds. The song is about a Nothern Irish gunman "careering" as a professional business man in London. Lydon wrote this specifically about a person he did not like. That's probably quite a lot of people. This is a great album. The guitar gives a haunting, eerie, angular and abrasive vibe. The drums, beats and bass are odd and unique. Lydon seems to be improvising throughtout and he admitted as such. I like the one comment I saw describing it as subterranean. There's a lot of experimental songs and parts of songs especially with the synths. I honestly don't know if I heard anything before or after it quite like it. I'm sure there's something. Definitely not for everyone but if you like experimental, this is probably for you.

The type of lame shoegaze I can’t get into, because it never goes anywhere

I try to trust music dorks when they like an album, but this really didn’t do it for me. The vocals are whiny, and the production makes it sound like you’re listening to an ill-fated college punk band through three layers of concrete dorm walls.

Suuuuucked

A pretty cool concept with the literal metal box as the cover on the original release. Their sound is more of an experimental concept album that is alt rock/punk avant-garde yet just works as a whole. I can see if you were to listen to them in isolation, then it would be mildly confusing. You really need to listen to the whole album in it's entirety. Best: Albatross Worst: Radio 4

some interesting bits here and there but on the whole just didn’t enjoy most of this

Pretty good, but I liked their other one better, and they didn't need two albums on the list

That was awful. Jonny Rotten should get beaten by the cops and see if that rejuvenates his musical spirit.

Not my style of music

Not for me

Post punk in all its glory.

Pretty challenging and diverse set of songs. I certainly liked it more than I expected, but I can’t see this being something I revisit often. At its best, there are some really cool grooves.

Well this was truly a difficult one to review. An incredibly eclectic mix of sometimes impenetrable music with a distinctive bass guitar running over every track. Some people hate Lydon's vocal style, but that wasn't a problem for me, partly because I knew what to expect. He drones where he needs to and is off-key in the "right way" throughout, so fine so far. My main problem here is that I knew I had dipped into PIL before many times and always come away bitten. I love their hits, with "This is Not a Love Song" being one of the first songs I ever heard that made me realise music didn't just have to be people singing in harmony about elves and shit. This was similar, with the opener, "Albatross", being almost an endurance test. However, I also found a lot to enjoy here, difficult to listen to at times, but also fascinating to see where so many bands got their ideas from. Did later bands do it better? Probably, but then this is some of the rawest, most experimental, and ground-breaking music from the late 1970s. I think I would naturally give this a 2-3 star rating, but it's definitely on my list to listen to again and I'm going to give it a tactical 4 stars, just to nudge the average up a tiny bit from all the 1s given by people who can't appreciate anything out of their comfort zone.

Not on Spotify

Ik had er precies meer van verwacht

I thought I was a post punk fan, I suppose I still am, but I'm not a fan of this record. Some of the bass lines are interesting, but get monotonous very quickly. I could not get into this record and it goes on for a really long time.

Liked the sound and vibes, but got frustrated with the long unstructured songs. This was hugely influential to a lot of music I love, but I didn't enjoy listening to this album.

Not my thing. I'm giving it an extra star because it absolutely succeeds at the band's goal of creating an "anti rock" sound.

Do I have amnesia? Definitely listened to this album, definitely don't remember it at all. My brain is mush.

It was fine…. The music was kind of a vibe, especially the bass on that first song, but the singer was not great. I also didn’t like that one song where there was a ton of beeping in the left channel.

I actually have some of the songs on this album liked on spotify but was simply not in the mood that day. DNF

I just don't like this

I'm going to guess that I liked this more than most of the rest of the group, but even I have to admit it's not particularly...listenable. I'd give it a 3.5 but not in good conscience a 4 so rounding down. A lot of it sounds familiar in difficult-to-pin-down ways which makes me think this is one of those "musicians liked it and no one else listened to it" albums?

A few memorable lyrics, decent album The line ‘I know you very well // You are unbearable’ is so funny to me Also ‘Everyone loves you // Until they know you’ ouch Socialist sounds like I’m a mad scientist working in a lab

Muy post-punk. No está mal pero no lo veo imprescindible. Para mi gusto son 2 estrellas y me guardo Graveyard.

This was definitely not my thing.

The epitome of post punk. All of the talent and charm of punk with non of the energy or excitement.

Not an easy listen by any means, but treat it as one long soundscape inhabited by Wobble's dub bass, Levene's sparse guitar and Lyndon's vocals and it accumulates over time. Normally I'd split a double album for two listens, this one is best done right through.

3.5/5. Post punk and alternative shit is awesome but even I have limits.

The music was good but a bit too droning and aimless for my taste.

What a terrible album. Didn’t have high expectations, and it still didn’t manage to live up to those. I have no interest in ever revisiting this artist, especially if this is supposed to be their most revolutionary album. So many songs are too long, and many of them are just not fun to listen to. Some were less terrible but they didn’t make up for the rest of it. 1/10 Top 1: 1. Memories

Good instrumentals but In some of the songs I really didn't like his voice

A classic punk album. Droning and talentless. Made me feel like I was way too harsh to Paul Simon

Terrible 1* Vocals and music are all terrible, I don’t get why they do punk songs that are genuinely just whack

I genuinely believe I could write this. Moaning voice, repetitive music, pretty minimal creativity. Didn't enjoy the album

I just cannot get behind this drivel from John Lydon. What a blowhard. I know this stuff is supposed to be ground breaking or whatever, but it just seems so trite and overly self-indulgent.

I'm conflicted on John Lydon aka Johnny Rotten. But there is no doubt his post Sex Pistols project Public Image Limited has put out amazing quality music and this debut settles in as a post-punk classic. 3.5/5

Found it boring

The best album this week so far and almost because of that it gets a default 2*

The Super Deluxe edition was almost four hours... maybe I could have dealt with it for 20 minutes...

1. Albatross - I do not like the way this one is sung at all and the lyrics, the instrumental is interesting. Also ten minutes and it doesn't really change or evolve that much to me. 2. Memories - this one was a bit better since it was more exciting, but didn't love it. 3. Swan Lake - interesting lyrics. 4. Poptones - this one is creeping me out, the music is like eerie and the lyrics not feeling it. 5. Careering - interesting sound, but not loving it. 6. No Birds - not loving it. 7. Graveyard - i like the music in this one a bit more than others. 8. The Suit - I hate the way the vocals are sung in this one, not pleasant to me, instant skip for me. 9. Bad Baby - same as the others, not my style. 10. Socialist - again I actually really like the sound of this one and since its an instrumental don't have to deal with the vocals haha 11. Chant - not my style. 12. Radio 4 - ending it with an instrumental, it's actually quite nice sounding for me. I didn't really like this very much although I recognise its impact...I knew when it said post-punk on wikipedia I was probably not going to since punk is one of my least favourite genres. I appreciate the music and production but it's not my style and I don't connect with the lyrics or the singing style. PS I find the actual vocals so difficult to hear with the guitars on some songs which is something I hate in music (could be my settings on my earphones/spotify)

Unsettling, unhinged and repetitive. I feel that some records can do any of those three things, or even all at once, in a way that works. However this just didn't do it for me. Maybe not in the mood for this today, but this is the second PiL album so far on my list, and neither have been up my alley. It's a long and repetitive sonic recreation of crippling anxiety. Musically there wasn't that much going for it and lyrically none of it made sense. Its claim to fame is just how weird and nonconformist it was for 1979, and John Lyndon being the frontman certainly helped PiL get famous. Jah Wobble redeems this to an extent, but a bassist can only carry the rest of the band so far. It just seems to be weird and unnerving for no reason. There's no direction to any of it, and as a result it's an hour of (terminal) boredom. Not interested in coming back to this any time soon. One positive thing I will say - Swan Lake is quite cool, and I feel like it has the most substance out of anything on the record. It has a disco groove to it, and the leitmotifs to the eponymous ballet score are neat. The story behind it (or its original form, "Death Disco") is devastating though. Fuck cancer. Favourite - Swan Lake

I feel this is specifically trying to be challenging, however that doesn't make a good listen. Actually bored me rather than challenged me, first song is 10 mins of dirge. Each song starts out ok but then the same dreary vocals come in. by the third time this exact pattern with the exact same vocals came in had to ditch it so can only give it a 1

Not quite sure what this was. It had a nice bass line and had a play time of 65 minutes. Otherwise, I don't know if it was one long song or a bunch of shorter ones. Totally forgettable.

Some of this resembles music

I think I finally understand how to listen to post punk. its going to be grating and atonal, don't expect it to come out and entrance you. You have to let it go on its own way and sometimes its nice and other times its not. I still think thats a pretty pretentious way to approach music but whatever. The Suit is where I sort of hit a wall. God the lyrics and the singing are just so bad. Fuck this sucks.

songs are too long not enough substance but was a good album

Awful

Songs are too long. Very creepy vibes

I’m sorry but I’m not listening to a full hour of this shit

Was well up for this but didn’t like it

Too Avant Garde for me

Jah Wobble brilliant again, and the music less arousing but equally interesting as the Sex Pistols classic album.

On the cusp of punk and psychedelic.

Fuck me that was not fun

Er no.

I don't get it. Why? I don't understand the thought process, I don't understand the appeal. Is this novel? Is this pretty? Is this cool? I just don't think so.

Awful, could not listen to this

Horrible

I mean its influential etc etc but it can be a bit of a drag to actually sit down and listen to

Brani Preferiti: - Nessuna preferenza Note: Genericamente parlando potrei sopportare questo album se fosse solo strumentale... ma ogni volta che il cantante apre bocca e inizio a sentire quella voce ovattata, mi inizia ad infastidire.

Decent, rough. Post-punk 2.5

Did I hate this? Oh yeah, you bet. But was I also fascinated by it? Indeed. And isn't that was avant-garde post-punk is all about?

This one did not hit any of my musical pleasure zones. There were moments where it started to feel potentially trance-inducing which can be nice, but it just wouldn’t stick. So that meant that it just went on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and off.

Interesting and not nearly as annoying as I feared. I quite liked it.

Here’s one that I’m happy to leave far behind in the rear view mirror. Not my thing. Tedious. It went on far too long.

A tough listen

Kinda weird British prof, I get the appeal as something that could be listened to on a crowded party blitzed, but I can’t imagine I’d put this on any other time.

Never heard of it, actually loved it

I like their first album more. This one isn't bad, but it's just not something I'd really choose to listen to.

Experimental rock. PUFF. Nada.

Had my fill by track 8 (The Suit). Bass lines were fun to listen to, but I had to turn up the volume to hear them which unfortunately made the vocals much less bearable. Credit to the album for being an influential step in post-punk, but the songs are not to my taste. Will not be revisiting this album.

Was okay in parts. Give me sex pistols any day

Not sure how this is labelled as "ground breaking post punk". Sounds like Johnny Rotten to do a Yoko Ono cover band.

If anxiety was an album this would be it. I found this album stressful and under threat. Nope for me!

WTF? Why is this on the list... ? I don't mind the music but the vocals are asinine. This is what happens when you're so bloated and full of yourself. You think you're some kind of brilliant artist due to some previous success. The original reviewers of this album should have their pens taken away. On the whole, this is completely devoid of anything real or personal and I found it completely uninspired.

This was more annoying than my review of Public Image Ltd’s “First Image” suggests I found that. Considering it saw “the band moving into a more avant-garde sound characterised by John Lydon's cryptic lyrics, propulsive dub-inspired rhythms led by bassist Jah Wobble, and an abrasive, "metallic" guitar sound developed by guitarist Keith Levene.” I didn’t mind the metallic guitar, but the rest of it didn’t head in a direction I enjoyed.

They leaned into the sound from the wrong parts of the debut album. Not an upward trajectory.

Shout out to bassist Jah Wobble, the only need the radar star of this album. I like the album quite a bit, especially the aforementioned bass as well as the drums. I feel the proto punk sound in my bones. The most unfortunate part is that I’ll likely not listen to this album again because I could only find it on YouTube.

This was weirder than I was expecting.

Best lekker weer eens

'Not a lovesong' vind ik nog wel een goed te pruimen hitje, maar met deze bagger weet ik me geen raad!

Dit trok ik welgeteld twee halve nummers

Ik heb betere platen van PIL gehoord.

Dit is horror.

All you hear are poorly produced drums and everything else is squeezed into like one channel and sounds horrible.

On paper the combination sounds odd but in the end it's decent music

+1 for that humpin’ bass riff on The Suit.

Interesting, didn't really click with me but there was something there

shitty guitar sound

It was interesting, but even though they may have broken ground with the sound they explore, the ones building off of them have usually done it better.

Wow, what a wretched album.

A creepy album with fleeting glimpses of cool riffs and moments. I'm not even sure I listened to the right album because the names were different, but it said so in the description. Those are my favorite albums...the ones that are so incredible that not only do they make it on a list like this, but that they are impossibly hard to find...because they are so popular. SOOOOO POPULAR.

Never heard of these guys, who are they? Why is this album not available on Apple Music, except for the retitled "Second Edition" vinyl rerelease? Lots of unanswered questions here, in the music as well. Some freaky-deaky genre exploration around punk rock, which I think is pretty nice. Love when synths get involved, who said punk has to be completely DIY garage stuff? I liked this much more than I thought I would, at least the handful of tracks I'll be keeping. Nothing that blew me away necessarily, though "Socialist" is really cool. Not a bad way to end this weird week, which took me from a 4.5 to a 1.5 and then pinballed in the middle. Favorite tracks: Socialist, The Suit, Albatross, Radio 4. Album art: It's a metal canister of music I guess. The "Second Edition" release that I have access to has a different cover, a warping distorted face that I guess is a guy in the band. It's warping with what seems to be a really creepy alien head. I like that cover more than the can. 3.5/5

Not good lol

john lydon consistently surprises me with how many great tracks I've never heard of from him, not that I knew that many to begin with. But shit this was great, dragged here and there but I had lots of fun so 5 stars

Hostile to the listener. Hefty no thank you. Best track: No Birds

Sorrýmemmig en þetta er alveg drepleiðinlegt.

I've always liked the singles particularly Careering and Memories. It's really the bass and drums that I enjoy mixed in with icy synths and with guitar reminiscent of Martin Hamnett producing Joy Division. Way too long songs and Levine's guitar work is hit and miss. All the drummers seem to get it right along with Jah Wobble's delicious groovy basslines. John Lydon's singing is mostly dreadful, of course. I realise he's trying to irritate and push our buttons and show just how non-rock and "clever" he is. He hits it right with the astonishingly awful Chant. A nadir. However, unlike most reviews, I kind of enjoyed much of the album, although it was so very long. I'll give it a 3 because there are at least four songs I'll choose again.

I don't want to live in a post-punk world. The music is pretty cool, not a fan of the vocals. Track highlight - Graveyard (insturmental of course).

Great packaging, and one of those where, though it appears old hat today, I imagine it's impact at the time would have been considerable.

Not entirely Rotten.

this isn't what you want, but this is what you get

Pop-rock un tanto experimental. Canciones en ocasiones, sin ningún tipo de orden. No me ha aportado mucho. Totalmente desconocidos. A veces, desconozco el criterio para incluir ciertos grupos/discos en esta serie

4/10. Blah, wish I had listened to the version on Spotify that was missing a couple songs

I got a bit of a reality check this weekend when showing some of my less album-inclined friends a couple tracks from the most experimental artists on the list. Their reactions sum up to, "Why would anyone want to listen to something that sounds like shit?" Today I ask myself that very same question. 3/10

The only reason I continued to listen to this album is because I needed to know if it was a 1 or a 2. This is just weird music for the sake of being weird, and that doesn’t make it good. I would love to hear out why others think this is groundbreaking, or revolutionary. I’d rather listen to them than this crap.

Really don’t think this many punk albums are worth listening to. This one included. Not too sure the major appeal to this one other than it led the post-punk genre. Whoopee. This was some tough stuff to listen to. The only good thing about it was the instrumentals on a few tracks. Other than that it was pretty boring to me. 2.7/10

Yep, liked it right from the start. That first song is hauntingly familiar…..cant place it. 3/5

Not bad but not for me.

I just can't with this smack. The initial 10+ minutes of just low effort BS filled my heart with hate which did not diminish. It failed the saving grace of so many punk albums by not even being short.

bullshits

Jotain avant garde rockia. Oli muutama miellyttävä hetki mutta muuten aika kuraa

Discordant, not for listening for pleasure, fantastically packaged, not for everyone but the combination of Wobble, Levene and Lydon is quite special.

songs go nowhere. upside, the bass is great.

this specific kind of post-punk, similar to joy division and such, doesn't so anything for me. it's something that i don't know if i'll ever get, even if i can understand that there's a lot of skill and and great things within the music. i just don't enjoy it.

Innovative, but hard to listen to at times.

I should like this, but I don’t. The overly ambitious concept and bloated track lengths make it quite a chore to get through. I appreciate the genre and the band’s contribution to the scene at the time, but I think there are much better albums in this vein that I prefer listening to instead.

This is up there (down there?) with the worst things I've ever heard. The only redeeming features are the bass, and the useful tin that the original release was packaged in. It would make a useful place to store any flat and circular objects that might be lying around (i.e. discs for an angle grinder or a set of lace table mats). Rating: 1/5 Playlist track: Suit Date listened: 24/08/23

I genuinely couldn't do this one. I'm even a huge post rock guy and I couldn't even listen to this. It was just mind numbing

Pretty wild. Keith Levines guitar work carries this so hard you can just hear it trickling down to every single experimental rock guitarist of the generations to come in some way or another

Vocals make you wish you were Helen Keller. Quite horrid, and the repetitive, yet decent instrumentals don't help here either

You can call it experimental and influential and groundbreaking all you want but for me this was a pretty boring hour of my Saturday. 3/10

Segon treball de Lydon, Levene i Jah Wobble, una de les obres principals del post punk. Disc complicat, abrassiu, serpentejant, opressiu, amb temes llargs que donen camp de feina a Lydon i sequaços per il.lustrar el baix moment pel qual passaven, depressió continua a base de drogues i incertesa vital que es trasllada a la música de forma magistral

Strange ambient post punk where the band are almost onto something but Lydon’s lack of humour and warmth distances the listener from really engaging with the experience - tripped out bass and drums with spiky Johnny Rotten’s lyrics. Jah Wobble’s bass elevates the project and The Suit was a highlight but otherwise a lot of hard work.

Le 1 évité sur le gong grâce à cette dernière track

on s'ennuie de fou

I often forget the timing of this band and their albums, so I'm glad this project reminds me when their albums were released. Their style gets a bit redundant to my ears, but I can appreciate what they were doing here in response to other music in the late 70s.

C'est vraiment spécial, je m'attendais pas à aimer, mais overall je suis très satisfait. Certaines pièces étaient un peu trop étirées (Albatros), mais généralement le son post punk expérimental était tellement bien exécuté que l'album se laissait écouter tout seul. Vraiment surpris d'avoir autant aimé un projet de Johnny Rotten. 8/10

Could this be the worst vocal performance of all time? Shit vocals are part of the punk aesthetic... but this is not punk, so what's the excuse? Saved by the last few instrumentals.... and the bass all the way through.

3.5/5. I have to say this was not terrible. But it's not something that I would ever choose to listen to. I can see how people would like this, though.

Great sound. Love the punk and dub mix.

A groovier, timelier Joy Division-esque LP. Definitely suffers due to some editorial oversight (most tracks could stand to lose some fat) and not every sonic experiment hits, but there are some great pulsing moments of rhythm and emotional intensity that caught my attention. Can see how someone would absolutely hate this, but it mostly vibed for me.

Back to back post punk…hurtful

I try to approach every post-punk album on this list (today marks number 75!!!) with a fresh mind. I consciously try to drop off all my baggage from the last 74 albums at the door and start a new relationship with a new album. For the first, like, 45 seconds I was really into this! Good bass lines and interesting synth compositions. And then the singing starts and it is a FUCKING NIGHTMARE... I enjoyed the last track or two because they were entirely instrumental. Shut up this man.

Imagine shelling out the ducats for a 3-disc set of 45s in a special, metal, collector's-edition case and then finding out that the whole first disc is completely unlistenable. John Lydon is possibly a genius, probably a nutjob, and definitely a jerk for making people who buy his albums suffer through at least three tracks of utter garbage before he gives them something that resembles a song. That was true of Public Image's first release and it holds true here as well. It's not until track 4, "Poptones", which is the first track of disc 2 in the original pressing, that we start to get legit songs from Lydon and his boys. This one started as a 1-star and slowly clawed its way up to a 3-star album for me.

Wish I still had this one on vinyl

Straight up fuck this album. Public Image was my first 1 star and this was worse.

I wanted to like it. I didn't.

Great instrumentals combined with some of the worst vocals you can imagine. I know post punk isn't know for great vocalists but come on

Really disturbing. Yoko Ono on steroids.

3.0 - Touted as some post-punk masterpiece akin to "Closer" by Joy Division, I had high hopes for this. For me there's too much atmosphere and not enough structured songcraft. I enjoy the subtle background sonics: snaking guitar lines, buoyant dub bass and staccato bleeps. Unfortunately, the vocals sound like a combination of my neighbor's dog wailing to be let in, and troll living under the bridge.

Un naufrage d'une heure qui aura commencé par ce qui restera sans doute considéré comme le pire morceau d'introduction du générateur.

Si vous connaissez quelqu'un qui connait quelqu'un qui apprecierait écouter cet album, à savoir que cet album lui procurerait du plaisir, qu'il le trouverait agréable ou lui trouve tout autre adjectif mélioratif, transmettez moi ses coordonées car mon camarade d'écoute robpissotière et moi même souhaiterions le rencontrer (pour le passer à tabac).

Fair play for abandoning the Sex Pistols' sound and exploring new and interesting sonic textures, but this seems like a case of PiL crawling in a slow, ungainly manner so other post-punks could run. There's music that’s discordant in an edgy, strangely hypnotic way (which this is some of the time), and then there are downright tuneless, repetitive dirges (which this album veers into a bit too often).

No Johnny, No. The last song made this escape a 1 star.

eh... almost wonderful.

Yeah, that was a tough listen.

When I read "dub", I got excuted. King Tubby this isn't :(

Best Song: Socialist. At least it grooves. Worst Song: Bad Baby. Just an absolutely fucking dreadful vocal performance. Overall: Mostly junk. Marginally more listenable than the other Public Image Ltd. album on this list, but only because of a few nice (but not extraordinary) riffs. It is a mess of barely conceived ideas haphazardly slapped together. The musicians seem uninterested in playing well or together, and everything just kind of dithers about until it ends. I hate the hubris of these dorks who dispassionately fuck around on their instruments for an hour and call it a day. Aimless. I just don't get it. Which drugs are necessary to enjoy this junk?

Pas si mal, mais pas si bon. C'est intense, 1 hr en plus.. 2.80

Suffered from the opposite of most punk albums, this one just went on and on.

I don’t see who would find this good regardless of the decade it released in, oof.

Day 100 Once again I had to pause the challenge as this is really a difficult record. Strangely enough, it is the kind of album that could blow my mind, the sort of thing that sounds as damaged that it would be easy for me to relate to it, but apparently I am not at that stage of my life anymore. I get the experimental approach and everything, but I also feel that I have heard it all, probably in later and less influential albums that in turn might have been influenced by this band. Having said that, there is a lot of musicianship, ideas, and variety here to keep the open-minded listener engaged. Rating: All the points have distortion and feedback. 

these guys are so fucking weird. Actually liked "Memories" wth otherwise; really fucking bad 2 1