Eliminator

This album is very common and easy to listen to. I know that it should be considered a great rock album for 83, but nowadays, the age came and it just an ok album.

This sounds like rock music

Well, nice listening that guitars and the distorsion, but seeing the videos on MTV make a great difference

Grand for the background. Some good riffs.

The first ‘whole’ ZZ Top album I’ve listened to. The hits are SO good. The non hits are SO forgettable. All balances out.

I occassionally think Gimme All Your Lovin' is Huey Lewis. Whoops.

Not the kind of music I'd listen to on a daily basis, or ever, as a matter of fact. I'm just not a fan of blues-rock in general. However, I still think this album is interesting due to its production history, the fact that it was the first ZZ Top album made using synths and drum machines plus guitars and that it was basically just Billy Gibbons and the producer in the studio, while Dusty Hill and Frank Beard did almost nothing.

Fun record. Love their sound, even if a lot of tracks blend together.

While not ZZ Top's best album (personally that honor goes to "Degüello") this album rocketed them to huge commercial success, and was my first album of theirs. it has arguably their biggest hits, and some stinkers, but overall a very good album.

i liked it but nothing extraordinary

Enjoyed. It made me think of the tv show Bones. Would listen again

Something was lost from their older stuff. This is too polished, too... 80s, but in a bad way.

Ganz ok. Wieder ein Album, zu dem ich nichts weiter sagen kann.

Nothing mind-blowing, but a lot better than expected! "Sharp-Dressed Man" and "Legs" are the standouts!

I toe-tapped all the way through this, it's impossible not to. Although ZZ Top basically play different versions of the same song throughout their entire career, it's a very good song to repeat. Incredibly catchy, full of 80s nostalgia, music that puts a smile on your face.

It was fine.

Not a huge ZZ TOP fan, but see how the album makes the list

It's good , but the relentless pounding drum machine is bit much...

It's OK! I'm not really super-duper into the whole 80's rock scene but I gave it a listen.

I want to like it but it's just not enough for a 4 for me. The songs are just a bit too simple for me, both lyrically aswell as musically but they lack the catchiness of for example CCR

Flashy trip through history

Kivasti soivaa rockia noin kokonaisuutena ja pari kovaa lekaa.

only heard like half of it unfortunately but still, not my thing

ZZ Toppia, toimii tietenkin vaikkei mun lemppari olekaan

80s excess drenched in some classic, southern fried blues. The riffs are great, might be a little fat to trim. Some, dare I say, interesting song topic choices (I'm looking at you "TV Dinners"). "Sharp Dressed Man" plays in everyone's head when they put on a suit. Favorite tracks: "Dirty Dog", "Gimme All Your Lovin'"

it was ok i guess.

Not my type of music...

Crusty riffs and even crustier lyrics

Típico som de ZZ Top (rock básico), contaminado pela sonoridade dos anos 1980. Regular, mediano.

Mmmm ñe

5: I will happily play this album anytime 4: I may occasionally play this album of my own free will 3: I will happily listen to this if someone plays it in the background 2: I will tolerate this if it is playing in the background 1: I will leave the room if someone plays this in the background

"I was there from the very beginning for this project. In fact, I was working on this project with Billy before I even knew we were working on a project. I knew about the approach to ELIMINATOR and songs on ELIMINATOR before two-thirds of the band did (Frank and Dusty). I was deeply involved, then I was shunned, bad-mouthed, shat upon, disavowed and treated like a dog. It really happened like this. What more can I say or do. This is truly a story about greed and betrayal. You're welcome Billy Gibbons (WTF)." - Linden Hudson: cowriter of this album https://www.reddit.com/r/musichistory/comments/891bl7/linden_hudson_cowriter_of_the_zz_top_eliminator/

This wasn't downright bad, the first 3 tracks were actually really enjoyable! However, this album does feel like one long repetitive song! The lyrics don't really mean anything, but some of them are terrible and extremely cringeworthy, but the guitar is the main attraction so I wasn't expecting any insightful or intelligent lyrics. Hard Rock is very hit-or-miss, but I've found that it's often very repetitive and most albums in the genre have a couple hits then a whole lot of filler. This fits that description perfectly.

I love ZZ Top, but this album kinda blows

Nope apart from a few moments

Some songs are fun enough, but the lyrics are one-note and generally the whole thing was noth very interesting.

Guitar solo city! ZZ Top is a band I know nothing about I heard 2 songs in my life,Sharply Dressed man and I think as an introduction to this band I think they are just okay. A lot of it blends together to create this kinda dad soundscape which is essentially easy listening music. Lyrically this thing is raunchy and silly and dated. Tv dinners being a silly highlight just a song about frozen dinner come on! Legs is one of those raunchy moments but it still Sounds like love even with all the leg talk. I think this to me is more of a bit and a pretty accurate representation of boomer/late Gen X rock. Which to me is better than the actually monotonous nature of the songs ending early lyrically and becoming a solo. Is the song the lyrics or the solo behind it. That’s a larger music question that is far more interesting than anything I heard on the Exterminator. Oh it’s called Exterminator because it bugs you haha get it.

Ik vind het eigenlijk best saai. Het imago wat ze neer proberen te zetten is als een bbq’ende hells angels man. Maar de muziek is vrij saai los van de solo’s gebeurt er niet veel. Het is net zo’n anticlimax als een hells angel die uiteindelijk gewoon een lieve man blijkt te zijn. Saai

Somehow I get the feeling that gays are not the target audience for this.

What happens when a very good boogie southern blues band that fuses psychedelic Tex Mex sounds into a stew decides that the secret to success is to add more synths and discover the magic guitar tone? They turn into a popular pile of shit. Sure, 2/3 of a band of bearded ugly guys surrounding themselves with hot women hides the smell but it is just impossible to hide the fact that this record is really the same song cut up into 12 pieces. It bears repeating that it is just a pile of crap cleverly designed to appeal to a specific group of listeners who would never ever be called discerning. It’s a cheesy pop record with embarrassing lyrics that are repeated for effect. Sharp Dressed Man and Legs are truly the same song structure including the solo placement. Again, the so called critics loved this record, the masses ate the shit up, and then like most pop records, ended up in the used record bins alongside Billy Joel, Barry Manilow and 3 of the 4 Kiss solo records. There are no redeeming qualities to this record. The only interesting thing about ZZ Top is that Frank Beard is the only member of the band without a Beard. See you at the county fair. 2/5

Ok

This is the album where ZZ Top jumped the shark. Not the same band they were in the 1970s to be sure. The car on the album cover symbolizes the enshitification of music brought about by videos and MTV.

я правда пыталась дать этому шанс, но это ваще не моё. альбом вышел в год рождения моей мамы, еще до ее рождения 🙃 из плюсов крутые гитарные соло, можно включить если захочется попрыгать под что-то около рока Сохранила: 1/11, 9% (и кстати не самые популярные!)

Nothing lile ZZ Top to make you want to kick out the old school jams. This, while containing some of their best singles, doesn’t hold a flame to Tres Hombres as my favorite ZZ Top album.

Peak 1980s dad rock. The synths and guitars go alright.Perfect for driving to, it’s completely fine and inoffensive, just not my thing at all, personal preference. Felt really repetitive.

I am so serious when I say that this sounds like the same song 14 times. Same lyrics, same baseline, same guitar licks. It's not bad it just gets stale after a while. Highlight: TV Dinners

80s rock, dad vibes, just not my kind of thing

Hits are good, but don’t love the 80s hair metal influences drifting in.

Found this weirdly difficult to get through. Like really enjoyed the first three tracks then it just descended into some bullshit. I Got The Six is the craziest shit I ever heard.

one note band

2.5 It’s okay. It’s ZZ Top. There’s no question what you’re getting. The hits are good, everything kind of sounds the same.

nah

why is the "hard rock" band mixed like the beastie boys. why is the "hard rock" band mixed like flock of seagulls. why is it (somewhat) tolerable? why am i unable to rate any of these songs? the vocals. anyways. cathy duran duran. 1.7-2.5.

Another also ran radio-friendly album that earns the most respect being played in DIY supermarkets. Novelty beards are just a weak gimmick that can't hide the vacuousness of this group. I mean for pop rock it's ok but one of the best albums of all time, not even close.

ZZ Top is one of those One Song kinda bands. The synths generally suck. I vastly prefer the 70s stuff, but who can say no to Sharp Dressed Man?

This is straight up boomer rock right into the veins. Not all bad, but not for me exactly!

you can’t make me listen to an entire zz top record. you just can’t

Gimme All Your Lovin' Sharp Dressed Man Legs

Guitars, hard, not really my style

Thought I was going to like the song “Legs” until he sang “she had hair down to her fanny”. Now, Sir!!! Theme with this band though - they start off and I’m like oh I could groove to this.. and then they start shitting out their mouths.

Some cool stuff, some meh stuff. Liked Legs a lot

This is schlock rock, but I love their videos and their image

Rating: 4/10 It sure is a ZZ Top album, but now worse. I should probably bump my La Grange scores up a point because the earlier career dirty blues sound is better than this. The first three tracks are generally the best the album has to offer, with Sharp Dressed Man being the highlight with its solid groove. After that though the monotony and lack of diversity further gets to me. The back half is entirely unremarkable. And thankfully I didn't really even take in the lyrics in my listen.

idk i don't love it. my little brother had a phase where he was obsessed with zz top and would play it on the boombox so much so maybe that soured it. great beards though good for them

There's not much to hate here if you like classic rock music. It just kind of plods along and frankly its just a bit boring and dated now.

ZZ Top is again one of these artists that I never deeply looked into. I know the hits and all but I would have not known their albums etc. It is wild that this is their 8th album and the most successful since normally the success comes way earlier. I have not carefully listened to their earlier albums but I think it is safe to say that they stuck to their own sound and eventually that lead to this success that this album had. ZZ Top is kinda like AC/DC, you know what you get!

Just not my vibe

For music that's sounds like it's supposed to be exciting this is boring to me. Some good guitar but I felt myself phasing in and out a little. From the ZZ Top I've heard in the past this felt sanded down and more commercial, I guess cos it's later in their discography. Cool album art tho

Not bad, don't quite dislike it but it's something I wouldn't listen to in a long time. plus my ears are tired of 80s type songs and will be for a long time 2,5/10

I associate ZZ Top with this Spitting Image song We Got Beards: We got beards Beards like beavers We got hair Coming out of our chins We got beards Flowing like rivers We got beards Except for him We got beards We don't use razors We got growth Of the longer sorts We got beards We sure ain't shavers We got beards And we don't mean short So what else Can we say about us Apart from beards Which you know we've got Erm... hey, what about the beards? Hey yeah! We got beards Down to our trousers We got beards That's what we've got ...except for him

Not as good as “Tres Hombres”. Not sure how many ways there are to write dive bar songs but these guys sure are trying to find out

Standard 80's, happy to listen to once, no need to listen to twice.

Don’t really like this, corny corn dad rock. RYM: N Saved a song: N

How the hell do these guys have 11.4 million Spotify listeners? What a joke. This was 45 wasted minutes of generic and unoriginal rock

ughhhhhhhhh fine i guess. the album cover alone broooo so chud

I'm much more of a La Grange ZZ Top person than a Sharp Dressed Man person. This doesn't do a whole lot for me.

Boomer rock that gets progressively worse as you listen. The worst song was the one where the lyrics are complaining a girl won’t let the lead singer fuck her. The second worst was the tv dinner song. I could’ve gone my entire life without hearing this album and nothing would’ve changed.

This album is just too repetitive.

Was expecting less yacht rock

Serviceable dad rock

"Gimme All Your Lovin'" is a really good song. But I view this album as the beginning of the end for a really great band. This was too polished. I never did like "Legs" or "Sharp Dressed Man".

Yeah s'alright. Writing and performance are both pretty middle of the road. Something you'd hear on FM radio (or super crunchy AM) cruising around on a summer evening, not really going anywhere. Sun starts really setting into dusk as soon as I Need You Tonight starts playing. You imagine that you're in a Miami Vice type 80s crime drama life filled with excitement and intrigue instead of some schmuck living in Omaha on their way home again from a beige office, about to have a soggy, silent TV dinner with your partner and avoid thinking about how you're almost 15 years too late for whatever it is you wanted to do with your life. "Coming to bed, honey?" "Yes, dear." Ahem. Uh, it's probably a lot more fun for that specific scenario, otherwise just alright. Inoffensive, at least.

A little average, some fun standouts like sharp dressed man and tv dinner but… basslines on this album made me want to kill myself

Time and a place i guess

ZZ Top will always have my wry heart for "Tres Hombres," the other album on this list. But even with my gratitude goggles on, this album remains mediocre. Yes, it was popular; I wouldn't doubt that it was their highest grossing recording at the time. But lots of shit was popular in 1983, and most of it we can release into the ether. Buh bye, Eliminator.

This was a grave disappointment. Like everyone of my generation I was overly familiar with the hits from this record and thought the whole album would have that fun feeling of stupid 80s trash music. But no. The rest of this record was lazy filler with a nasty misogynist edge. I perused the 1001 reviews and all the 1- and 2-star write-ups were so spot on. The one that stuck with me the most was the person who noted that the author of these songs has the emotional range of a toddler eating sherbert. I'm not totally sure what that means, but it feels right. This album made me feel icky, and like all of us needed a nap.

Too many guitar solos. Too much aggressive. Some good song drowned into a chaotic record I didn't really like.

Lyrics are ass

2 ZZ Top albums in 10 days ... this one's not as good as the other one. The algorithm or vagaries of fate (or whatever) did this album no favors - this would likely be a 3 but for the irritation at seeing this so close to the other one.

More boring than I expected? Disappointed

The gutar work is great, but the lyrics are kinda cringe and definitely Boomer teir. Overall not something I'd choose to listen to again. Extra star for the gutar work as mentioned before.

ме. не люблю рок. но если бы я была билли из техаса, продавцом подержанных мустангов с золотой цепью, или майком из индианы, который красит грузовик в матовый чёрный, пьёт mountain dew вместо воды, называет жену старухой (ей двадцать три) и величает себя «ночным волком», то влепила бы этому альбому пятёрку.

Jammin bluesy guitar tones but yeeesh the sleaziness of this thing. I get that it’s supposed to be tongue in cheek and all but idk man, you just know the people who are giving this a 5 are beer slingin’ misogynists. As another review said “these dudes are diabolically horny”

lol I don’t think you even need to hear a ZZ top single before you die. some hits here tho of course

I think it does what it wants to do well, but this brand of 80s rock is not for me at all.

Mostly the same thing over and over again -- 4/4 beats, driving synths, slightly bluesy guitar. I'd rather hear the guitar work without the other stuff.

I've always had some cognitive dissonance when it comes to ZZ Top. I hear about how they're one of the greatest rock bands ever, and when I listen to them they sound soulless and generic. This is the first time I've listened to them outside of their radio hits, and it has only solidified my opinion of them. I did not enjoy this.

2 solid hits on it that are enjoyable. The rest of it however, forgettable

very basic rock which isnt bad but it isnt ground breaking either.

Two fun singles and a lot of "teenage boy bedroom" nonsense. Still more enjoyable that that White Stripes album, but I won't be revisiting.

I really don't get the appeal of this kind of rock Fav track: Thug

I don’t love the lead singer’s voice, it’s kind of thin to me, and the songs all started to sound the same. The guitar parts were great tho.

american driving music

There are some classics on here, it's just not my jam for a full albums worth of listening IMO

The singles are okay - but its pretty repetitive lowest common denominator stuff. Very 80's very packaged and very dumb. The low point being TV dinners ... "This one's kinda tough I like the enchiladas And the teriyaki too I even like the chicken If the sauce is not too blue" A low 2.

Poor man's Dire Straits. Without the variety. Or decent lyrics. But with plenty of overhyped '80s 'Merca.

Que ondaa😂😊 emos volvido a las reseñas musicales,.en el dia de hoy: "Eliminator" de lo tops zz!! Hora d escuchar: Dice asi: "Gime All Your Lovin" q puedo decir los 80s nno kejejejejej, ese reverb n el snar y procesamiento d la voz nos gritan el tiempo d la cancion, y el ritmo tmb no jje. Dale dale, la segunda mitad del tema m la subio con esos arreglitos q siento q le quitaron pila monotia. Capaz m sobreestimulo un poco la guitarra electrica siempre sonando al palo. "Got me under pressure" this too much for my brain.. no estoy en el estado mental para tanto mambo.. bajale a la guitarra porfa, aunq esta buena la parte del medio en el q la guitarra s empieza a pajear y se corre, como puente esta buena la idea. Dios mio q acabo de escribir, "Sharp Dressed Man" bueno m gusta eso que tipo, al final de "got me under pressure" se empieza a toquetear tmb la guitarra y gemir es una asquerosa. "I Need You Tonight" aburridisimo el riff de guitarra electrica, muteenla Canciones como "I Got the Six" solo me suenan a mediocridad e inmadurez, como grita "soy adolescente y pijudo" solo con el tono de voz q usa, y toda la atmosfera q crea la cancion es una gran falsedad muy llana. Lo mejor hasta ahora y capaz d las pocas cosas q rescato, es una notable creatividad y ganas d explotar la guitarra eletrica lo mas posible, pero todo lo demas bastante meeh. No entiendo como esto, entre otros, esten en una lista de albumes que tenes q escuchar antes d morir. "Thug" sorpresas, la bateria muy bien paneada, sentis como monos alrededor tuyo n medio d la selva, para despues ese bajo slap intentando potar con los monos golpeando como siempre hacen, mientras estos hacen ruidos raros con la boca, un completo caos q extrañamente m hace sentir en casa. Un aporte q le puedo dar a la banda es que quiten al vocalista. Muy largo el tema, la ultima seccion de 1:30 sobro parecia un loop choto. Canciones muy desaprovechadas, con algunos momentos unicos, capaces de crear un sentimiento mas complejo, pero q se quedan ahi, en momentos, simplemente un parte minuscula de un tema entero, un tema de personalidad nula, suena a canciones hechaa en joda, con una chispa q esconde muy timidamente, cuando la muestra le aplaudan pero la tan terrible no la quiere usar para el fogon, y se queda en eso su cancion, una chispa que nunca se dio a comer, y que al final del dia se apago. Sera cosa mia tmb, pero tanto mambo con la guitarra electrica al palo todo el album. Ni 1 tema sin usarla, parecen hermanos todos los temas, no en un buen sentido. Todos son en esencia la misma cancion, mediocre. Album que sacaria una discografica, no un conjunto de artistas. Cocainomanos. 2. No le doy un 1.5 porq soy el poli bueno.

We all know the singles. Just big dumb fun. The rest is like that but worse

didn’t really like it. very basic.

A very horny and monotonous album. The fillers feel like lazy alternate reality versions of the hits. Each track bleeds into the next and I struggled to keep paying attention. Even the singles feel like self-parody at this point. The cars/legs/girls thing hasn't aged well and feels like divorced dad rock you'd hear on touch tunes at Applebees. Genuinely surprised by how little I enjoyed this. The one upside is it sent me back to Tres Hombres, which imo does the greasy blues rock schtick much better without tipping into cartoonishness.

Second half of this album is a complete snoozefest. Big meh all around. Just too corny for me, but I can understand how people enjoy it.

Not great

They sound like they were on autopilot for this one. No more fire in their bellies by this point in their career. I just couldn't get excited about this album.

Zone out a lot....

Nah.

Zzzzzz Top

Is TV Diners a parody of Weird Al Yankovich doing a parody of ZZ Top? I was looking forward to this album until I got to legs and then there was a sharp drop in IQ and the rest is laughable. I’d give it a 1 if the singles weren’t so good.

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Its OK they are talented but not for me

I generally don't like ZZ Top. This isn't really much of an exception. It was a little better than expected, but my expectations were low. I wouldn't choose to listen to this, but I wouldn't tell my friend to turn it off if he played it. 2.49/5

I’ve always hated this band’s aesthetic. For me, ZZ Top’s music has always occupied a very boring place in rock history. ⭐️ ⭐️

this music makes me want to do coke and beat my wife who I HATE!!!! 10/10!!!!!! I love AMERICA!!!

Rock for the sake of rock idk. Not super unique or atleast brigs nothing new to the genre as I see it. If you want rock then this is what you want, but it doesnt bring much more than that.

Outside of the fantastic singles, this album is straight up forgettable. The synthetic drums and bass don’t do this album any favors, the tunes sound robotic as hell, and the songwriting is corny AND horny to the point of being a bit unbearable. “TV Dinners” and “I got the six” are prime examples of this. The singles are great, they have a punch and memorable hooks, and the album sounds nice with the windows down speeding on a freeway, but all in all this is only about as good as background music can be.

Meh, this was kinda disappointing. Couple of tracks that are still fun listens, but absolutely no variety. The rest of the album just sounded like fillers.

This album felt looong. I was checking to see how much was left and I was barely halfway through the record. Not a good sign. It’s just pretty generic and for the first half I didn’t really mind it, but after that it became a bit annoying.

It's ZZ Top, but not how I like them

This is an album that I feel has not aged super well. There are some undeniable great tracks here. Sharp Dressed Man is a great single. But I feel this childish, cheesy nature when hearing some of these lyrics. In the heavy blues rock genre I have heard much better.

Fun, no sticking power

Altså, det er ikke dårligt, det er bare meget røvballet øltelt.

"She's got legs/She knows how to use them/She never begs/She knows how to choose them" is pure sublime poetry. How have these lyrics never been collected in book form? All kidding aside, it's decent straight ahead, competent blues rock with insipid lyrics. Nothing groundbreaking, except for the beards.

09/03/26 porque tem tanto álbum perfeito pra música de fundo de restaurante numa lista de álbuns que eu deveria ouvir antes de morrer chato, repetitivo (esse drum beat parece que não muda), e com solos de guitarra esquecíveis e sem importância, parecendo que só existem para deixar a música maior letras da boa e velha e chata temática sexual do rock, cantadas por uma voz ordinária demais uma música única, eterna e esquecível, mas ainda não é a pior coisa que eu já ouvi não consigo acreditar que eu ouvi a merda desse vocalista latindo. 4/10 (só porque não dá para ser 3, mas também não chega no 2, justamente porque serve de fundo ou nas músicas mais famosas sem ser um projeto como um todo)

Most of the tracks blur together into the same groove, and after a while it feels repetitive rather than hypnotic. The lyrics sit somewhere in that low-to-mid range where they don’t really add much depth either. For me, the only track that truly stands out is Gimme All Your Lovin’ — that one actually has the spark the rest of the album seems to chase but never quite catch.

Lost me on the TV dinners song

"Sharp Dressed Man" and "Legs" are bangers, for sure, but the rest of the album really starts to feel the same.

lo escucharia tom cruise en topgun.

Not the worst of the rockers I feel like im in the racing car drifting round

nothing to write home about

Well, Tres Hombres it ain't. Too compressed, polished and predictable, but there's some fun to be had with it. In a cherry red Corvette speeding through El Paso, perhaps. Not so much on a bus in grey Birmingham UK.

This reminds me of driving to work in 2014 listening to 103.5 THE SOUND. My go to classic rock station that was replaced by a Christian rock station. Long live The Sound…that said, not my vibe but I’ll always go to bat for “Gimme All Your Loving”

1001 is a big number but I don’t think that the team behind this list would be able to justify 2 ZZ Top albums. Between the 2, this is the better one if only because of the lyrics “she’s got legs, she knows how to use them.”

Music for pickup truck commercials and montages in cheesy sports movies. We’re supposed to pretend this is good because they have long beards or something

Not satisfied

Except for a couple of fun songs, I didn't really like it.

Yea fine.

Rätt tråkigt

Its good bit I prefer earlier stuff by the top

Greasy blues-rock that reeks of leather, cheap beer and seedy dive bars. I'd probably enjoy this a lot more if I was in a biker gang, but since I'm not, it fell flat for me. There are a couple of really fun songs, but also a lot of tracks that sound just too 80s for me. I saw ZZ Top live in a festival in 1994, and even back then it already felt like outdated music from another era. Maybe it's just not my culture. I get that they're good at what they do, but what they do doesn't really interest me, so I'll pass. 4/10

Another mid record ripping off Blues by american white men? Yes, please, by all means. Seriously. In 2026, who needs to listen to this?

Good

La Grange kniver om å være den kuleste låta noensinne laget. Denne skiva har dessverre ikke La Grange. De to låtene her som jeg hadde hørt fra før -- Gimme All Your Lovin' og Sharp Dressed Man -- følger den samme formelen, men er mye mer poppa og polerte. Det er 80s rock, på godt & vondt. Mer vondt enn godt...? Noe godt er det, da. Kan nikke litt til Got Me Under Pressure liksom. B-siden er utrolig dårlig. Der skrur de opp volumet på de verste 80s-ismene samtidig som de har færre riff.

Ikke akkurat ZZ tipp topp. Det er en veldig uheldig blanding av disco og bluesrock. Som om de har hørt Kiss sitt forsøk og prøvd å gjenskape det, men det låter mer som en parodi til tider. Med unntak av "Gimme All Your Lovin'", "Sharp Dressed Man" (Guitar Hero-nostalgi) og til dels "Legs" så er dette classic rock gone wrong.

Sterilt, enkelt og altfor kjedelig rock.

I have aged out of this album and don't enjoy the sound anymore. I would give it 1.5 stars, so I will round up to two stars.

Fun for a song or two but pretty repetitive

As a child I really enjoyed this and maybe 12 year old me still would, but it has not aged well - worse than the earlier stuff before they added all these layers of synthetic sheen to the chortling misogyny. Great beards though

First, I have to say that I’m impressed. Coming on the heels of reviewing their Tres Hombres album, I wouldn’t have expected them to suddenly have a commercial breakthrough ten years later. But there’s a high ratio of hits on this record. Having said that, I previously praised their trend-bucking, barebones production, and this album seems to be the antithesis of that. I feel like I just walked off the set of a sleazy, spray-tanned, coked-out music video. And not completely in a bad way, but definitely in a nauseating way. I teetered between ratings on this one, but I’ll round down to 2 based on my criteria that I probably won’t seek this out again.

Look how they've massacred my boy!

Couple hits to add to a road trippin playlist. Overall the lyrics were all similar stories about chasing women and love, and the overly done guitar solos were repetitive. ⭐⭐

Hard rock legal mas falta charme

It’s not a bad album, I just don’t really listen to this type of music. From my point of view all the songs sound kind of similar and follow a similar pattern.

Two or three songs in it started to be a thick listening for me. Starting to wonder how ZZ Tops early material sounded like, as I doubted that this MTV-mainstream-Hard Rock Cafe background music can't be all. Im glad I did. Perhaps im a blues purist, and can't take it when the sound is too compressed too manufactured. I need the rawness. That's something you'll find in the early material. With that said, and if someone comes across this review, don't go only for this sell out material before doing a full comprehension of ZZ Top.

Orion liked Bad Girls

might've enjoyed this more on a different day but alas it was not one of those days. felt pretty bored and almost all of the songs sound the same.

I didn’t mind this for something different but not something I’m going to be reaching for in the future

If you are my age, you know how the videos from this were mercilessly and endlessly flogged by MTV in the 80s. Re-listening to it again after 40 years was entertaining for a couple of songs, then I just got tired of it all over again before the end of the album.

This is music for dean winchester and I am not him. Give me a couple beers and I’ll review again.

One of those albums that I can see why it's so beloved, but I don't think ZZ Top are to my personal taste. A couple of great tracks on here and the guitars sound great, but it's just not for me! Favourites: Gimme All Your Lovin' Sharp Dressed Man I Need You Tonight

Best way to describe these songs are long. Every song has about a minute of just the beat after the last line. They aren’t bad

feels like my dad has sat me down for an hour to show me “music was better in the 80s”, which is what a lot of this list is feeling like sometimes. nothing wrong with it massively just very samey and by the end i was waiting for it to be over.

Lovely beards

not for me

Some classy sounding stuff (although the lyrics are far from classy), not incredibly bad. "Sharp Dressed Man" is obviously the standout track here, and I enjoy it. That being said, this album is severely lacking in the emotion/meaningfulness department (surprise, surprise.) Like many albums of the time, Eliminator is plagued with a bunch of junky filler aside from the singles. "Best of" albums of bands like these tend to be their most popular for a reason. Favorite Song: "Sharp Dressed Man"

Two tracks are, at most, decent. The rest is the audible equivalent of a snoring, soggy 55-year-old watching TV at midnight who can't let go of his past

Gimme all your loving is probably the first track that comes to mind when i think of ZZ Top. It’s a fun groove laden rocker which ticks all the boxes. I got the six sounds like a combination of ZZ Top and AC/DC cover bands to create one god awful noise. Legs is back to that classic sound, but its abundantly clear why the singles were the singles off this album. Unfortunately when you have such a distinctive sound songs can stray into sounding like parodies and that is my lasting view of this album. Better off sticking to a best of compilation

A surprising number of "classic" albums start with arguably a band's biggest track. This was very much an album of the singles plus the other stuff. I've never been a massive ZZ Top fan anyway, so I wasn't even that excited to hear the singles, but it turns out they were the most interesting part. My mind kept wandering throughout and it was a real struggle to force myself to pay attention. Not terrible, but (for me) not good. 2/5

It's alright. It sounds like cool kid music

Eh, not my thing, I can appreciate the longer breaks up letting the band jam, but the bluesy style is something that never really caught my attention. Facts: 1) Billy Gibbons is a car enthusiast and the cover features one of his cars. 2) Introduction to the drum machine for this band, you can tell. 3) Also, introduction to synths for this band, caught the attention of a younger audience at the time.

It's well recorded but it's missing the charm of their previous album on this list, Tres Hombres, that feels like more my speed.

not my type of album but i get her.. i like the voice in some songs but overall it’s not an album i’d go back to tbh

Eh didn't feel it. Then again, I'm not a fan of their biggest hits from the album either.

Not my style, reminds me of my childhood. I tried really listening but every play through became background noise.

Music that has become cliched with time and subject matter that is wholly uninteresting

You get exactly what you expect to get here. Kind of like AC/DC, I guess. I've never been huge into these guys as I found them kind of gimmicky and formulaic. And apparentely they didn't even have the creativity to write most of this album. I guess that's mostly on par for a group consisting of two guys who once faked like they were another band to make some quick money as imposters before becoming ZZ Top. Here you have three big hits plus a bunch of other tracks that sound like those hits, so if you love ZZ Top this is your jam. 2/5

It’s giving 80s “macho” dad with an impractical car who stares too intently at the neighbour’s teenage daughter

Every song sounds the same. There is a ZZ Top sound for sure but not for me.

ok

Både meget catchy og lidt kedeligt, på en eller anden måde!

ZZ Slop.

A friend of mine went to see Aerosmith a few years ago. At some point, he realized that most of the people were there for the "new" stuff - ie, early 80s on. He was deeply disappointed. This is ZZ Top's "new" stuff - vastly inferior to their initial iteration but wildly popular. I was inclined to give this a 3 but then I heard (and then read) the lyrics to I've got my 6. While I recognize that performative male sexual desire and rock lyrics are deeply intertwined, those lyrics stand out as extraordinarily stupid.

Did I have this album in highschool? Sadly, yes. Did I listen to anything on it but Sharp Dressed Man? No. All their songs pretty much sound the same.

A few great songs

It's fine. I've never been a fan although I can see why they were/are popular. The more I listen, the more I dislike. 2/5

Guitar is decent. Lyrics are adolescent.

“She’s got legs, she knows how to use them” She can walk?

I’ve never really spent time listening to ZZ Top, always writing them off as “dad rock” and the kind of heavy rock that should probably have stayed in the 1980s. With that preconception firmly in place, I went into Eliminator curious to see whether I’d been unfair. The big hits are undeniably strong. Sharp Dressed Man, Legs, and Gimme All Your Lovin’ are excellent pop-rock singles: slick, hooky, and perfectly engineered for MTV-era success. They’re fun, instantly recognisable, and still work well in isolation. Beyond those highlights, though, the album quickly loses momentum. The slower tracks feel flat and uninspired, and much of the remaining material blends into a fairly forgettable stretch of generic 80s rock. There’s little here that compels a full-album revisit. Lyrically, too, parts of Eliminator feel dated, with some moments tipping into tired and mildly misogynistic clichés that haven’t aged especially well. Overall, Eliminator is a record defined by its singles: a handful of brilliant tracks surrounded by a lot of filler. Favourite track: Gimme All Your Lovin is a great tune Least favourite track: TV dinners is an example of how boring this album can be Album artwork: Cool album cover

It was catchy, but I always find ZZ Top unbearably boring

This album’s pitch was “Let’s take the best rock songs of the 70s and make them boring for the 80s.” Why does Ringo get the bad rep when this drummer exists?

I’ve always thought of ZZ Top as Diet AC/DC. They represent a type of rock that I just don’t get anything out of.

The synths and drum machines really give this album a phony sheen that is not at all enjoyable.

There is an entire song about TV Dinners I cannot ever listen to this again!!!!

I do not enjoy ZZ Top's brand of rock. Also, there's a song about tv dinners on here???

This feels like a slower back in black.

Nostalgic sound I remember as a kid but this kind of Americana rock doesn’t quite do much for me. Blues rock revival of the 60s I like better or the garage rock/blues infused of the 00s. Those synths really wanted more attention on Side 2 of the album. Everyone sounded great. Won’t lie that most of these songs sound the same to me. Caught myself zoning out a lot. The sexism though….

Felt like I was in a movie from 1990.

Holy generic 80s rock batman! My non-formed opinion on ZZ TOP dropped with this one.

I appreciated the ode to TV dinners.

Another 80s rock album. No doubt the music itself is well produced, but to be honest this thing starts to get boring...

Does this one really rank?

very generic sounding. i’d say it sounds like any other rock music released in the 80s, but that would be an insult to other bands. i see what they’re trying to do, combining elements synthesizers and drum machines with traditional rock but somehow it still doesn’t work for me, it doesn’t even sound insteresting or innovative. not seeing myself reaching for this album anytime soon.

First song on the album is a banger. Then I got bored and tuned out.

Not a whole lot of substance beyond the gimmick in this one. A few well known bangers that raise a smile, but the joy kinda ends there. 7 out of 11 songs having a fade out probably tells us how much focus there was on actual songwriting... but oh boy, they sure had time for pentatonic scale jamming..

Mmmm.....

TV Dinners took this down a star.

Dad’s a rockin’ but I’m going to have to pass. Divorced grandpa music.3/10

I really didn’t need to listen to a whole album of ZZ Top - that much is certain. 1.5/5

Prefer earlier ZZ Top

I respect the style, I can barely stand the substance

fine

All the lyrical depth of a 14 year old who just found their dad's Playboy stash. They guitar parts have a strong command of the blues, but that's about the only thing propping this album up. The production succumbs to all the worst trends of the early-to-mid '80s.

Some high class dad rock - quite fun I guess? Would have preferred Huey Lewis

Music is fine, but doesn't go beyond that (and lyrics are poor)

ZZ Tripe

Rocks along nicely but many weak songs.

I thought I'd never heard a ZZ Top album before, then I saw on my RYM that I listed to Tres Hombres three months ago and it failed to leave any kind of impression on me. Considering that I had more fun than I expected with this. The move away from blues to a campy form of hard rock made things more enjoyable. Though by the time I got to TV Dinners I did start to lose the will to live, in no small part because of the absolutely dreadful lyrics.

Put simply, this ZZ Top album is not for me. I find it plodding and uninspiring. I feel like in order to vibe with this you have to think it’s very COOL, and I don’t think it’s cool whatsoever. Sorry ZZ Top, great beards tho

Interessante, mas não estava muito no clima deste album no momento que ouvi.

Pop-sounding, unoriginal, tired, whack.

Same riffs for an hour

Before I started listening to this I thought - this will be fun. Gimme All Your Lovin was a lot, well, worse then I remembered. The beards are probably the most exciting thing about ZZ Top. They're exciting beards, as beards go, but that isn't enough for a good album, never mind a great one.

Not really my jam. I couldn’t ever tell you where the emotional center of a ZZ Top song is. Maybe they hid it in their beards

I can get into some ZZ Top . . . for about three minutes. The remaining 41 minutes, which are essentially the same as the first three, are quite tedious. Still, I'm glad this exists. It's good for movie soundtracks and funny videos on the internets.

ZZ is one of those bands you always hear about and they seem to have a loyal following but I really don't get it. Overall the album is non-offensive and definitely something you can listen to, but none of it grabbed me or moved me in anyway.

There’s the 3 KCal Roq classics of Legs,Sharp Dressed Man, and Gimme all your lovin’. The rest is really whatever tbh.

Some good songs but unfortunately very samey and very much dated. some decent riffs tho fav track: TV dinners

Groupe connu par ses tubes à l'époque de la sortie de cet album, mais pas vraiment apprécié. C'est donc la première fois que j'écoute un album entier. Je ne l'apprécie pas plus qu'à l'époque : la section rythmique est trop simpliste, et la guitare très standard. Le résultat est très mou, pas désagréable (+1) mais pas inspirant. Et la même année Metallica sortait 'Kill Em All', un album qui a vraiment révolutionné le metal ... Il y avait donc bien mieux à écouter en 83/84 !!! Donc pas de seconde écoute pour moi. =>2/5

Pretty generic, I’m sure it’s great

The same song

This was such a huge hit when it came out, and the hit songs on here are pretty fun - not worth thinking about too hard, definitely not worth paying attention to the lyrics too closely, but fun pop rock hits. But for me time was not kind to this album. The vapidity of the hits is made tolerable by their catchiness and fun factor. The vapidity of the rest of the album...not so tolerable. A lot of the songs felt like filler - some of them sounded like rough drafts of the hits. And I don't really know what happened to them musically. Boring guitar solos. Uninspired melodies. And Frank Beard sounds like a beginning drummer. I know he is capable of much more...but apparently he was just their drum machine on this album. I didn't come into this expected to be so disappointed - I thought it would be a fun and nostalgic ride. And I suppose it was for 3 songs. But as an album experience, this is a dud.

ZZ Top? More like ZZZ Top (es broma lol tenía que hacerlo) La verdad que este álbum es una fórmula mecánica repetida de forma incansable durante 45 min. Y me encantan las guitarritas eh, el blues rock me suele calar bastante, pero no cuando todas las canciones suenan exactamente iguales entre sí. Salieron ya muchos álbumes con tracklists muy homogéneos pero creo que este se lleva la palma. Aún así el sonido es muy representativo de la época así que supongo que no es un mal álbum. Just not my jam. Favs: la primera, Gimme All Your Lovin', porque el resto son todas réplicas pero con otro nombre (?)

The whole time I was listening I had the image in my head of two bearded men chasing after a woman in the style of Benny Hill. Couple of the singles are catchy but the rest of the album is far less interesting hard rock/blues slop. Some of these songs go on too long. Whilst there is fun (of a kind) to be had, I struggle to understand how this made its way on to a list of the 'best' albums. 2/5

Immediately started with "Who are these guys? Oh, I know this song." And it was the best song on the album. I feel like this music was designed for people who would still drive the car on the album cover in the modern day. I drive very comfortably in my Kia, so I didn't really get much out of this one. Most of it feels pretty uncomfortable. The lyrics paired with the instrumentals feel like the kind of music you'd vaguely listen to for the feel of it and then tune into the lyrics and awkwardly turn down your radio. Sadly, I can't really uncomfortably turn down the music because the 1001 Album Gods gave me this and I must listen.

interesting proof of concept but pretty dull outside sharp dressed man and a couple others

Eliminator? I hardly know 'er. I could have sworn we had this already, but no, that was a different ZZ Top. I think this one is actually better than "Tres Hombres", but even though it's 80sified, it's still not my style. 'Sharp Dressed Man' always reminded me of 'Money for Nothing' (mashup potential), and the fact that there's a song about TV Dinners* on this album is only reinforcing that link for me. I feel kind of bad giving this a 2, but it's just so much guitar, you know? A high 2, let's say. Syntactically unnerving lowlight: the lyric "i'm needing someone like you / that i just wanna do love to" (D:) *About it, Wiki says "these servings of industrially processed foods are standard cuisine for lonely and culinarily challenged unpartnered gentlemen", which is a nice complex NP but also feels unnecessarily gendered. Let the lonely and culinarily challenged unpartnered humans of all genders enjoy their TV dinner song >:(

I found this repetitive. Even within songs, once you’d heard the first 20 seconds of the song, you’d effectively heard the whole thing.

nope. two stars for beard effort only.

lower mid

Ja ist ein gutes Album, ausser gimme all your loving hat sich alles irgendwie gleich angehört.

Never been a 80's MTV era ZZ Top fan. I know their popular hits of that time and can remember some of the videos but not for me. I had never listened to earlier ZZ Top before because I never liked them in 80's, but Tres Hombres is great. I had listened to that as part of the album challenge a few months ago and really enjoyed earlier ZZ Top; just not 1980's MTV ZZ Top.

This album is such a disappointment. The only reason this isn't 1 star is because of nostalgia for the 3 hits (Gimme All Your Lovin', Sharp Dressed Man, and Legs). And those only because they were the first ZZ Top songs I'd ever heard back when I was all of 10 years old.

Soundtrack from an 80s teen comedy drama starring Molly Ringwald.

Meh. I wanted to like this more. I can recognize what it did historically and I liked these songs as a kid but... meh.

Memorable only for the flagrant use of chorus.

Bluesy country rock with some pretty terrible sexist lyrics. But the synths were dope at the time! Not for me.

haha funny beard. TV dinners sounds like a Tim & Eric song.

Boring. Sorry

A guilty pleasure at best, misogyny at its worst. Bonus points for it being 45 minutes exactly. I also like that ZZ Top essentially came out of the Fake Zombies USA resurrection.

painfully mediocre compared to all the amazing rock music that came out during this time.

Your average blues/southern rock album talking about blues/southern rock topics with a car on the cover. The first 5 songs are cool, the last 6 are garbage. Still, it can be enjoyed while cracking a lager beer in the garage.

Before: my only access point to ZZ Top is that there’s a few times Stephen King references them in his books. I think it’s actually kind of a major plot point in one of them haha. I assume they’re just classic rock? Idk much what to expect. After: Immediately this album made me laugh. “ Give me all your lovin, all your hugs and kisses too” cracked me up every time they said it. And there were just like flourishes all over the album, like the ad libs on the song sharp dressed man that made me actually laugh out loud. I feel like growing up, this is what I imagined most classic rock was like, and that made me steer away from it. Lately I’ve gotten more into groups like Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin and wondered what had made me hesitant. I think stuff like this album is what made me hesitant haha. The vocal performance and lyrics are cheesy to me, and there’s something about the rhythm with which they’re sung that make it even worse. Legs was the first time I really started to enjoy the instrumentation. The guitar really broke loose there and started doing some interesting stuff. I didn’t catch anything else on the record I enjoyed quite as much as that. La grange auto played afterwards and that was so much better than anything found on this album

Generic rock, unfortunately, despite the lovely Texan accent.

The generator gave me this album on a very glum and rainy Monday morning in the UK. Put this on at 7am. By 9am I was on a Teams call wearing a denim jacket and bandana, drinking a Budweiser and preaching to colleagues about the 2nd amendment.

This was turgid. Feels like they know one thing and they repeat it until it forms a hit, as much to their surprise as anyone's. Sharp dressed man is a banger, without it, this would be a 1 star. Hard going in general.

Cookie cutter songs that were manufactured to satisfy a specific clientelle. They are well made and well performed, but the album is musically bland. It's the kind of music you'd expect in a rock/biker bar, makes for a nice background and that's about it. To me it sounds like they're easily capable of better and therefore it was probably a conscious decision to maximize the commercial aspect of the album.

The sound is kinda iconic. The problem is every song sounds the same. Very homogeneous, which gets stale after a while. The singles shine, but the deep cuts are bland and dated. So much toothless filler on this album really drags it down. I want albums to give me a reason to keep listening or come back. But as it kept playing, I found myself thinking, “Has this looped? Did the album restart?” Everything sounded so similar. I don’t see a reason to revisit. 4/10 Standout: Sharp Dressed Man

The three big hits on this record are the hits for a reason. The three at the end (Dirty Dogs through Bad Girl) are legitimately good songs. Outside the 6 I mentioned, the remaining 5 could’ve been scrapped and this could’ve been an incredible EP. Sharp Dressed, Legs, and Gimme All Your Lovin’ are a solid example of the 80s aesthetic. 10/10 would listen to the hits while working out. This album created some tension within the band and you can’t hear it at all. However, that’s because the band isn’t playing on most of it. It’s drum machines and synths and Billy F Gibbons. Now I’m going to eat a microwaveable Salisbury steak in front of the tube and watch Johnny! Note to self: acquire fuzzy spinning guitar

Non si esce vivi dagli anni 80

Here’s my review for Duran Duran’s Rio which I listened to and reviewed the day before ZZ Top’s Eliminator. The same review applies and any changes are in brackets: Not sure if I ever listened to this album all the way through before, but I feel like I’ve heard every song here 1000 times. I guess [ZZ Top] has dug itself deep into the collective unconscious. Album cover looks like something I would’ve seen in a salon in 1992.

I know there are some classic songs on this album from a lifetime of hearing them on the radio. Maybe that adds to my general disinterest in the album. It seemed a bit monotonous. Not to discount ZZ top, there were some pretty ripping guitar riffs throughout the album. It definitely fits the beer drinking, 80s, hard rock vibe.

Heard some songs from it. Their hit songs are ok and it's a well produced album. But the problem is that the rest of the songs sound like one long song. No variety 2/5

When listening to this all I could think of was The Black Keys. It's not a bad thing...not a great thing.

Przyjemny, ale chyba nie mój vibe, znowu nie ogarnęłam kiedy się zapętlił

Kind of underwhelming. Some classic singles though

Trochę zbyt agresywne, nie lubimy z Olą takich gitar

Ehh

This was my first ever ZZ Top album! I guess I thought ZZ Top was more heavy metal. This wasn’t bad to listen to.

Meh. It was some zz top.

the okayest dad rock

It was like listening to 45 minutes straight of Sharp Dressed Man but not as good.

Commercialized and watered down but the solos save this from 1 star. The songs that aren't hits are a drag. Tres Hombres was a much better blues record.

1.5 stars Growing up in the 90s I thought ZZ Top was always a joke and never considered cool. I had no idea they were so big in the 80s. Hearing Tres Hombres for the first time I thought “ok there’s some good bluesy rock here.” So I had some hope that another record on this list might be a hidden gem. I was familiar with most of the singles from this album, and did not particularly care for them. They all just sounded generic and boring. Reading that they intentionally wrote songs at a higher BPM because those were more popular seems obvious now. Having listened to Rio last week which came out around the same time, these songs all sound like “Hungry Like the Wolf” with bluesy riffs added in and less interesting vocals. And I mean all of the songs: they essentially used the same formula for all of them and kept it going. The only saving grace is that the bluesy riffs and competent vocal pieces make it not entirely dreadful to listen to, even if zoning out is inevitable. Pass.

dnf, if you just listen to the sound it feels very standard rock, nothing special but not bad, but ugh the lyricssss I am not a fan. I don’t think I’d get on well with these people, at least at the time it was written. Ik women and sex is a huge theme in music but this just feels icky

Nothing notable

Sharp Dressed Man is the highlight on an otherwise standard 80s rock album.

Couple big hits, not my favorite classic rock feel.

Not sure if I like it. That's my first ZZ top album and I don't think that's my type of music - I don't want to listen to any more of that. It's fine, the riffs are cool, but get very repetitive very quickly. Not sure if I like the lyrics - they are a bit off-putting to me but that's alright. It's not bad just not for me. Favourite track - "Sharp Dressed Man". I'm mixed between 2 and 3 so picking the lower grade.

Another mid white man rock album….

Meh

tv dinners is actually crazy. want to give 1 star because of that

the pre-packed, oven-ready, homogenised, airbrushed, bland version of rock and roll for which the 80's must answer for

meh

Holy shit, this shit sucks. Perhaps on the list because it represents a point on time where we almost lost the thread? Representative of a generation of "artists" who were charged by the music industry to remove the soul from music? I'm just glad that rock survived this music that belongs in my forgotten ashtray. WTF? I 100% did not need to hear this album before I died. Never again. This is even worse than I remembered when it was part of the soundscape of my youth. Kudos to me for actually making it through the torture to get to the end of this excrement. Kudos to you of you actually find this music interesting, but why?

Some recognizable songs that are decent, but boy this is really one note. Nothing ever progresses in each song. Also the drums man. The drums are AWFUL. The hats sound like shit. If the point of Ford commercial music like this is to be hell yea brother epic, then it should actually try to be a little more epic

Boring, the same song over and over

Sounds like every other album ever

not the best ZZ Top album by any stretch. This is when ZZ Top started to sell out for commercial appeal

Otro dia que lo que me toca se sale de mi zona de confort totalmente, podria ser la musica que suena de fondo en el Paso o en el Coyote, no soy yo muy rockera. Alguna que conocia de antes no ha sido del todo infumable, como "Sharp Dressed Man" pero tampoco disfrutona, solo soportable. No he podido terminar de escuchar la mayoria la verdad.

Fun enough in its own way I suppose, but also very dated and cheesy, without particularly strong songwriting to underpin it; not for me

Not as heavy metal or tough to listen to as I expected!

Didn’t have the same groove and energy as their other album on the list, which resulted in uninteresting hard rock that I am not a fan of