Reviews (page 12 of 14)
sophomoric but you can see/hear the talent. This guy's going places
Not my taste
This album gives me a great big problem. Up to now I’ve rated every hip hop or rap type album very low. Main reason is that this music was not made for the likes of me and probably made with the intention of deliberately insulting people like me. So I’ve taken the position that instead of saying I hate it and writing a full diatribe to justify this I’ve let rap music float over me without too much comment because I’m so unqualified to say anything other. This should be the position I adopt now but there is something in the music which Eminem produces that I like. Not the lyrics (God no) or the images he describes which are horrific but sometimes he produces very melodic music which gives an instantaneous hit. I’m a sucker for a memorable tune and Eminem does produce some good ones. There are some good tunes on this album but more so on his later albums. This album then is full of what I don’t like in that I don’t want in my home. I’ve seen enough of real life cretins in my career and witnessed the hurt they bring to innocent people and justify it because of their poor life starts. So anyone exhorting the false virtues of such things I avoid. I doubt that nowerdays in these woke times an album like this would gain the same traction like it did 24 years ago. I’m not a woke’ist but a lot of the subject matter in this album should not be held high in popular culture. The counter to this argument is the inclusion of Dido whose sample must have been sanctioned by her. I get the impression the she is an unassuming typical English Rose so just why she appears on an album full of misogynistic language and imagery is beyond me. So do I like the context of this album? - resounding no. If I could leave this to one side do I like the music? - some of it but not enough to alter my overall view of rap gangster type music. 1.5/5 9/7/24
The singles are great but did anyone else find the rest of the album exhausting?
After listening to this entire album, I am still perplexed why this album and this artist interests or moves anyone. I'd give it a 1 but Dr. Dre did give it some production props that deserves at least a 2.
Eh. S'ok
Revisiting the old Eminem, having mostly blanked out on the work for the past decade or so, and after him descending into crude dad jokes and struggles to maintain some edginess, I cannot quite filter this album through all that knowledge. All of this is just a few notches under the hard-hitting banger factory it once was revered as. Now it all sounds like an angsty rebellious youth but with a better budget. Such is my dumbass lukewarm 2024 take on Eminem.
Even the most ostensibly self-reflective song on this album (Stan) manages to be mad homophobic. Swap this out with the Tenacious D album and you'll equally appease cis white millenial boys (such as myself) with a similar strain of sophomoric humor *and* deliver the message that it's good to tell a man you love him.
I found this a tough listen. On the one hand, I respect Eminem's talent. But on the other, his immaturity makes him very difficult to like. This felt like listening to the class clown completely spin out in front of everyone. Sometimes he strikes gold, sometimes it's just cringe/edgelord stuff trying to offend as many people as possible. Then you have what sounds like a very serious and alarming song, Kim. Too much for me.
Eminem was writing songs about beating his wife for an audience of twelve year old boys.
Damn, I remember liking this back in the day. Stan is still a good song.
Some of the songs are pretty good but the lyrics are just too vulgar and mean to really be enjoyable. I didn’t really like the last few songs at all
Eminem is legitimately talented, but this was a tough listen. It’s just so dark (and gets even darker than you’d expect).
I don't like Eminem. This was better than the last album I got, but still very hard to listen to with the misogyny and homophobia. I gave it 2* only because of the real slim shady which has the benefit of millennial nostalgia
Not for me
Some good tunes but overall just not my vibe
I barely have words to express how glad I am that after 70 long minutes I am done listening to this album. While music at its best is a celebration of life or at least constructive commentary on society and human nature, this album is dark, so very dark. Homophonia, misogyny, violence, anger, hatred...it is all here. No reprieve. No mercy. No way.
I genuinely don’t know if I’m being too generous or too harsh at two stars. There were SOME parts of this album I enjoyed, such as the production, but the subject matter and lyricism made it a rather unenjoyable listen for me. I’m all for exploring dark/heavy themes in art - it’s expression, after all - but there is a difference between that and just being blatantly upsetting and offensive on an immature level, which is what this felt like to me. While there were some high points, I don’t think I’d ever willingly listen again.
This is a hard album for me to review. It's prickly and crass and mean spirited in a way that makes me want to hate it. The misogyny and homophobia were cringeworthy at best in 2000, and are straight up appalling today. I forgot how difficult it is to listen to "Kim," which... I'm just speechless. But there are also flashes of brilliance here that are impossible to dismiss. The rapid fire flow, the sharp hooks, the dark vibe, the subtly crafted narrative - this album is the real deal. Eminem's anger and animosity toward his own fame, his fans and the music industry in general (not to mention his own freaking wife) are palpable in these songs. But it's riveting in a way few albums are in this genre. To be clear, I don't want to hear this again. I don't even think I can do higher than a 2. But I have a grudging respect for it. Fave Songs: Stan, The Way I Am, Marshall Mathers, Bitch Please II
I am happy Eminem has evolved beyond this album
Lost a star due to Kim- horrible song that does more to justify domestic abuse then condemn it
Hard not to feel like its a waste of talent.
A great album marred by casual homophobia and misogyny. Some of the incel-level fantasies about hurting women leave a bad taste in my mouth.
The first edgelord? He's a good rapper, but I didn't enjoy this.
Obviously incredibly talented, but the content...
Sé que la actitud y el sonido del disco eran el puro zeitgeist de su época, pero se ha quedado tan viejo... Tiene varios temas buenos, pero tantos momentos de puro cringe... Desde la intro en actitud "no me importa lo que pienses, me comes el culo", hasta canciones de un histrionismo insoportable, la actitud de tío duro irreverente y rebelde, no sé, todo muy cringy. Las bases son buenas, le doy un 2, me debatiría incluso por darle un 2'5, pero lo bajo al 2 solo por el interlude de la mamada, que es quizá la cosa más asquerosa que he escuchado.
Musically and rhythmically interesting; lyrically unpleasant
Really hate the violence
Eminem is a talented rapper and his way of using samples, rapid-fire rap, and collaborations creates a sound that is unique and original. Unfortunately it’s hard to endorse lyrics that are derogatory towards women no matter how good the music may be.
While it sports various moments that combine the verbal gymnastics, dark themes, powerful beats and satirical characters perfectly, most of the time it crumbles under the banality of its own violence
Não gosto
This album came out when I was in seventh grade. I remember well how it was all the rage amongst my classmates, in seventh grade while some of the songs are iconic and I get a smidge of nostalgia from it, I think that maybe I have become a prude, Eminem is a very talented rapper, there’s little question of that. His ability to rhyme and his flow are un and as good as anyone has probably ever done it that said when I think about Art, I think about something that is a net positive for humanity , when I listen to this album, and hear the relent homophobia, violence, and needlessly, pathetic humor, I just don’t feel like it contributed anything beneficial to our world on a net standpoint. Thinking about it now, I can’t imagine what it was like for some of my friends that I now know our gay to have heard music like this. It takes so much away from Eminem Eminem talent, and it distracting from the really great musical moments on this record.
I'm not his demographic
Music for suburban white kids who are angry at their mom’s for not buying them an Xbox. Homophobia, misogyny, and violence… so edgy
this is a long time to listen to someone talk about themselves. It sounds better than the Slim Shady LP but its longer and full of false brags and posturing based on a sense of being unappreciated which just seems like a persona and not a reflection of his success. I just can't enjoy it when it is so sophmoric regardless of how clever it is.
It's so long and he makes the same three statements in each song
Not my cup of tea, 1 extra star for Stan which is great storytelling
Not a fan of hip-hop really, i get the vibe and all of that here, but this is full of homophobia and misogyny. Why is this here?
This record has some good songs but it is not something I would listen to regularly. Some of the lyrical content is overly violent but completely tongue-in-cheek. Although you cannot deny Eminem's talent for rapping, it is still not my thing. A bright spot is the track "Stan".
2/10. Rap not my scene although Stan is a good song
I guess I'm suckin Shady's dick because I did not like this
A few classics but there’s a lot of filler
eminem's career consists of making the same album over, and over, and over, and over again.
Meh. My position has softened slightly over the years. But it was pretty high on the hardness scale. There is some good stuff. But for every good thing, there are 30 totally dum things that undermines them.
the epitome of "i gotta hand it to him"
not for me dawg
Terrível, tirando a única música que presta chega a ser tortura ouvir esse álbum. Estou ouvindo a DOIS DIAS pois é doloroso de entediante.
Takes me back to adolescence, but just like then I don't care for it. Except for Stan, which is due to Dido.
Excellent Dre beats and rapping artistry but unlistenable lyrics
Would be a one if it didn't have Stan.
Rapero desatado. No me gustan sus letras ni me cae bien
How long does this album need to be? I don’t know if it’s of its time but seems less refined compared to other hip hop albums on this list so far 4/10
White guy rapping about drugs, sex and violence with his book of bad rhymes. Clearly targeted at edgy teenagers.
I get it I just don’t care
I like Eminems rapping, and some of the rhymes are funny when in a high school-juvenile mindset way. But the homophobia and violence is to much for me, I mean Kim, that is a white-trash murder ballad i never need to hear again. Two stars because Stan is great story telling, and shows Eminems lyricism can be great with less anger and me against the world attitude.
Sounds like a 14 year old boy ranting about women and other BS. Except for Stan, this album isn't for me.
Album Nr. 40 Mit Hip-Hop / Rap kann ich nichts anfangen.
Not as catchy as the 8 mile soundtrack nor his later work.
I do not remember Eminem being so angry! The hits are great! The rest of the songs, especially the ones about abuse... yikes.
Yeah... this hasn't aged well. I get it's a character but in the two+ decades that have passed it just doesn't fit with our view of society today. A product of its time but not worth it.
not for me
Some good songs, some songs so stressful I wanted to take my headphones off.
NOT FOR ME. I gave it a shot, listened to half the album. He's clever, articulate, evocative, and obscene. But I can't get into it.
I'm now 400 albums into this journey and "The Marshall Mathers LP" has become one of the hardest to assess so far. How do I reconcile an unbelievable talent for lyricism and wordplay… with some of the most abjectly "unpleasant" material I've ever heard? This follow-up to "The Slim Shady LP" sees Eminem doubling down on shock value even more: in the opening track "Kill You", he simulates raping his own mother, imagining the horrors of "the establishment" who have welcomed him with open arms. After twenty-three years, the album's talking points remain its most offensive lyrics rather than its best songs. Fans (*stans- we have this album to thank for that term) of Eminem wave away any criticism in praise of irony, pointing out the rich self-analysis going on here, and the self-aware embrace of horrorcore. …So does that make it okay? Perhaps a lot of my unease comes from the shifting political landscape over the last twenty-five years. In 2001, the people praising Eminem were typically liberal, appreciated his artistry, knew that he wasn't directly inciting violence and shouldn't be considered part of the problem. Whereas if "The Marshall Mathers LP" were released today, it's easy to imagine it would be at the heart of a free-speech and cancel culture war: in 2024, glib references to rape, domestic abuse and recent school shootings carry much more weight. Eminem's defence would prop him up as a poster-boy for free speech, and liberal audiences would likely shy away. So while this album is only a little over twenty years old, this immediately makes it feel more dated than most of the other albums on the list. In fairness, much of the lyrical content is really interesting: Eminem is suddenly dealing with his rise to fame (this ranges from the tragedy of "Stan" to being pestered when he's trying to have a shit in "The Way I Am"). He needs to push his shtick further and further until it's at risk of snapping all around him, all the while wrestling with the demons of his personal life ("Kim", "Marshall Mathers"). It veers between insightful commentary, ludicrous pantomime and dull self-indulgence (something that, by all accounts, Eminem has fallen into more and more across his long career of diminishing returns). The lyrics are impossible to look away from, so the music is, by default, less impressive… but it is occasionally enthralling. "Stan" is an engrossing narrative with a perfectly judged Dido chorus. "The Real Slim Shady", written last minute to supply a hit single, is as catchy as it is clever. The sampling and musical styles used are slightly more varied than the previous album, and as a vocalist, Eminem is consistently impressive and passionate. His delivery has a "can't look away" quality which is exactly as intended: the aggression in "The Way I Am", the prankster of "The Real Slim Shady", the all-out horror show of "Kim". But it's "Kim" that becomes the final death knoll for me (no replay value, just an absolutely horrific depiction of abuse), as well as the long stretch of songs around it when the shock value has dulled too much to stay engaging. Oh, and the slurping sounds of Ken Kaniff made me physically ill to hear through headphones: funny skit, though. So, even while I agree with Eminem's stans that the whole package is wrapped up in juicy, self-aware analysis of what it means to be a shock-value icon… in the end this just feels like an excuse to make me appreciate 72 minutes of music which I don't really enjoy to begin with. I understand that there's objectively great music in here, but the road to get to it is cruel, gruelling and exhausting as this review presumably is to read.
I'm going soft in my old age.
Painful to get through. Were it not for Stan and The Real Slim Shady this would be a 1. Just too much obnoxiousness and needless childishness. Because that is what this is. Not genius, but being a petulant child.
As a non-native english speaker, RAP is difficult to catch if not paying attetion and reading, but i thought this would be much harder, it was a surprise. Also surprised that i know some of them before hand, wasnt aware of it. Still not being my style, but glad to have get to know this page so i obblige myself to listen to all styles. First album done!
A couple songs liked but most songs were just not my jam.
Some good songs. Some of the lyrics cross the line of satire and some of this just seems like it was written for shock value. Could vibe to some of the songs, but overall not for me. Favourite songs: Stan, Who Knew, Marshall Mathers
Nah. Stan a classic. Can't get over some of the gross-out lyrics, particularly the homophobia.
better than slim shady lp cause it has stan on it which is an INCREDIBLE song. but yeah everything else is.... 2.5/5
2 stars because Stan is a good song. The rest is eh, for me.
Lot of blampkins on this album
Man achieves his wildest dreams and complains about the consequences. Made me sad for the singer and those who sing along.
scho eeewig kei eminem me glost. zerst usversehe d version ohni fluechwörter afange lose haha. jede satz öpis usegschnitte. kill you goht dumm. riiichtig geile beat. de siech cha reime sheesh. ah und hook mega geil mit de glöggli. haha de twice falsch usspreche joke isch funny. bruuuudi noch kill you haha funny aggro song afoch stan. bruudi. ok ha de song scho lang nüm glost, finden nüm sooo deep wieni en mit 12i gfunde han. aber geili idee, huere guet gschriebe, bitz sehr "joooo voll deeeep" Who knew. richtig harde dre beat. zerst haha funny gealt nocher zweite verse waffepolitik kritik? er macht chli viel homophobi witz und über gwalt a fraue. jo isch e persona aber würer hüt nüme mache glaub. skit vor the way i am isch no funny. beat vo the way i am isch geil. er reimt jo er reimt. er isch mega hässig uf sini fans und uf d medie?? wirkt huere bitter meh als 20 johr spöter. und "radio won't even play my jam" isch sehr sehr schlecht galteret. real slim shady innsane banger. funny, riese rhymes, beat ultra unique, hook goht ine. d will smith line isch sooo geil. er macht sich über alli andere lustig und hebt sich ab. guete arrogante rapsong. remember me isch mit d12? sie drucked alli ihri stimme chli viel. nahtlose Übergang in I'm back. wieder laid back eminem mit crazy gwalttätige lyrics. hahaha de NSync diss isch geeil. bruuuuudi nocher de mit de JLo isch chli heavy. ok du findsch sie hot aber brooo. scratches au so semi geil. marshall mathers. eminem siiingt? akustischi gitarre? drug ballad isch no nice mag mi nöd a da lied erinnere. amityville seehr geile beat shiit. er slappt bitches immerno. das album isch semi guet galteret.
I could barely get through it. Sometimes the music was good, but the lyrics/rap let me down.
not really a hiphop fan, had to skip
Brilliantly talented rapper and songwriter giving voice to frustration of the disenfranchised and highlighting social issues? Yes. Obnoxious shock jock striking a chord with angsty high schoolers through over the top language? Also yes. “It’s a joke, bro” or not, couched in too much anger, violence, misogyny, homophobia, and toilet humor for me to go out of my way to listen to. Standout is “The Real Slim Shady”.
Marshall Mathers EP by Eminem Thursday 5/2/2024, 1:43, office S Tier————————— The Real Slim Shady A Tier————————— Stan Criminal B Tier————————— Bitch Please II Under The Influence C Tier————————— Kill You The Way I Am Who Knew Drug Ballad I’m Back D Tier————————— Remember Me? Marshall Mathers Amityville E Tier————————— Kim
He's a very angry young man.
Some songs are fantastic, but as an album it’s not that great.
Feels very much from the early aughts. Super white guy aggressive - extra star for this being about his insecurities, unlike the shitty New Metal of the era. Minus a bunch of stars for homophobia, anti women lyrics and shitting on Christopher Reeves.
the amount of times he calls nsync gay on one album is honestly kind of embarrassing
I think he was trying to do a thing while being aggressively offensive, but it sounds well overcooked... Sorry Slim
Oh, is Slim Shady fed up with my shit? Well, the feeling is mutual. There's no redeeming substance here. It's just misogynist, homophobic posturing on repeat. Every track is the same empty, pointless drivel. I'm over it. Can we please put the lionization of these dickrappers behind us? Because hating on women is fukkin' lame and I'm tired of hearing about someone else's genitalia.
I don't hate this as much as the other one
Not my favorite, did not finish the album
Not my thing. 2.0
Pointlessly edgy and lacking any charm, Marshall's semi-decent rapping is the only thing that saves this from being forgotten to history.
Eminem. Nie je dôvod počúvať, ale netreba to okamžite vypnúť.
Sentimientos encontrados con este... La parte buena: Las rimas y los flows están muy bien, hay versos y estrofas enteras que son increíbles (en cuanto a la rima, no el contenido). Hay canciones muy buenas (Stan, The Real Slim Shady). Puedo llegar a apreciar el shock que pueden generar las letras, algunas te dejan literalmente con la boca abierta. La parte mala: Obviamente la extrema homofobia y la extrema misoginia es difícil de ignorar. Parece que Eminem sabía lo que a la gente (los niños de instituto) le gustaba y es lo que les dio. Podría aceptar ese tipo de letras si por lo menos tuviesen algún mensaje importante o algo que decir, pero no, son ofensivas y nada más. Eminem siempre dice que no habla en serio y no significa nada cuando habla de matar homosexuales o de rajarle la garganta a su ex-novia y a su hijo de 4 años, pero entonces ¿por qué lo escribe?¿Cuál es el propósito?; de nuevo, no es la homofobia/machismo/violencia lo que me molesta, básicamente todos los raperos y más en esta época eran así, lo que me molesta es que solo sean eso. Son letras tremendamente superficiales, edgy solo por ser edgy, y que a veces se pasan tres pueblos. Los beats son aburridillos, y algunos estribillos cringe.
not very pleasant to listen to. trying so hard to be shocking it loops back around to sounding silly. why is it an hour long?
Best song - Stan
The best praise I can give this album is that it could be great with better lyrics. I only give this album 2 stars instead of 1 because of the beats and the rhythm that Eminem displays. Some of his lyrics are clever, but the vast majority are juvenile, and there are a fair amount that are beyond disturbing. "Kim" is a song that I feel goes way too far, even compared to "murder ballads" that are popular in western music traditions. I've never been a fan of Eminem, and listening to this album now, 23 years later, only solidifies my feelings on him for the past two and a half decades.
This album was a little more that just explicit. This man he really enjoys cursing in his music. I’m not against it but I personally don’t think that he needs to say that much curse words in every single one of his songs. Though the reason as to why these songs were written is interesting and probably very important to know because he is singing about his personal life problems and issues that he dealt with as a kid. This album tells his story. It shows us that not everyone grows up in a safe environment or have loving parents. He sends a message through his music even though he is a violent and explicit singer he still gives a message through his music.
Extremely dated.
boy, eminem sure is a talented rapper. but then I grew up, and this album - a demonstration of those copious talents, largely through misogyny, homophobia, and various violent, self-harming thoughts - went from "I used to listen to this a lot" to "oh my god, do people still listen to this?"
Wanted to like this more. Call me a snowflake but this is a bit too shocking to really enjoy.
Skits never again Kill you is mid, goes a minute too long Stan is top tier, not sure how I feel about the last verse. The Way I Am might be the best song on this. Real Slim Shady's very good. Marshall Mathers is ridiculously homophobic. Kim is just awful.
meh
Mamita. 6/10
- Never listened to this album in full before but I'd heard a lot of the songs and other Eminem albums before - Very conflicted on the good songs vs the bad ones - Stan is his best song and there's a few other really good ones, but there's so much that's aged so badly that I didn't enjoy the album much - Probably would've been better if I was an edgy teenager in the early 00s hearing this for the first time - Kim is horrendous and may be his worst song ever, which is saying something considering this is the guy who made Revival
I’m gonna allow myself to skip this. I don’t like rap! I skipped the first song. The second song “Stan” is kind of ok. The song “the way I am” is a very angry song. I think if I was angry, that I would like it. “Under The influence” makes me aware that he is aware that not all people like his music, but I think that he is taking a reductionistic approach saying that: people who don’t like his shit, can just suck his dick. Where I think he should just be open for other perspective if taste in music. Overall I still don’t like. I understand why Enimen got big, as his music is angry and full of emotion and curse words. 1-2
Don’t like it.Only got two good songs and it’s an hour long.Stan is still good.But there’s no need for a weird six minute song about liking your wife,songs not even good.Most of the album is just annoying really and not in a cool way.Probably groundbreaking at the time but just comes across as annoying now.
Listening to this album, I'm in one of two of minds. The first is to acknowledge the production values (the quality of the album itself) and then the huge influence that it had. This album was everywhere and had a gigantic influence on hip-hop going forward in the 21st century. Eminem is at the top of his game here and his skill is surely sitting at the summit of all-time hip-hop greats. The second, though? I don't like it. There's only so often you can listen to blatantly misogynistic or homophobic lyrics before any original point is lost and you're sat there with a bad taste in your mouth. Is it a no holds-barred look at modern American society couched in offensive, shock humor? Maybe. That doesn't make it any less unpleasant to listen to.
This is way too graphically violent, homophobic, and misogynistic for my comfort
Personne ne comprend rien sauf les schémas de rimes, car ce truc est universel comme l'étude des versets
lyrically pretty cringey these days, I'd be a bit embarrassed to have this on around others. Musically it's not bad
There's no denying Eminem's talent and flow. He's got that in spades. And I do think Stan and The Real Slim Shady are good songs. But man those lyrics are just frightening and haven't aged well. Also, it's too long. An edit would have been nice.
I guess it was noteworthy when it first came out. It has shock value and decent beats. But the lyrics are misogynistic, homophobic, egotistical, and incredibly childish. The songs sound like anthems for incels with misplaced anger and entitlement issues.
Highlights: "Stan," "The Real Slim Shady," "Remember Me?" This is at the head of the 90s-00s pointless edgelord pantheon with South Park. Exhibit A for the cliche: "satire requires clarity of purpose and target lest it be mistaken for and contribute to that which it intends to criticize." Genuinely culturally toxic, not because of exposing kids to every cuss and adult topic under the sun, but because of the mindless way that he tries to justify it. Dre's beats are uneven, with high highs and low lows. Like Eminem's bag of tricks, it can wear thin, especially after over an hour. Eminem has 3.5 barbs, jokes, and arguments he has harped on in every song over and over for his whole career. The two things he really contributes to rap are his dynamic, wild intonation and his rhetorically creative left turns to post hoc justify rhymes or advance a verse. You can get all that in Eminem Show without half the baggage of trash like "Kim".
The rapping and engineering of this album are good. Too much negativity for me.
Super talent but the album doesn't hold up. Couldn't get through it.
*sigh* I don't wanna. Never gonna be my thing.
I liked this more than the Slim Shady LP, but not by much. More standable songs in here, but it's way too long and I'm still not crazy about the lyrical content. I'm just not much of an Eminem guy. My favourite song was probably Stan.
Didn’t really enjoy this overall
Yeah...despite the inventiveness of some of the album (Hello Stan), it is just lyrically unpleasant. The album also wears and is way too long.
Call me old fashioned, but I just don’t get down with songs about killing your mother, homophobia or fans committing murder/suicide. 🤷🏻♂️ Eminem is a great wordsmith, and I don’t want to take that away from him. I just wish the subject matter didn’t rely so much on shock value in his early work. God I sound like a preacher. The Real Slim Shady is a classic though.
Take a seat, young Slim Shady.
KIM é tipo a pior música possível.
Hip-Hop. Kill You was amusing. The rest? 1.5/5
So very dated, already.
I respect him as an MC but I cant get into Eminem
5/10
2. Ok but won't be buying and probably won't listen again.
Eminem is a genuinely talented rapper. He's a master of wordplay, his flow is great, his beats are good and catchy. But like...this is the most homophobic shit I've ever heard. The skits are so stupid. And the album just goes on way, way too long. A few songs here and there are great storytelling, or have some clever lines, or are catchy to rap along to, but he's just so juvenile and hateful that I'm not ever going to listen to this of my own free will. My girlfriend loves him though, so I'm sure he won't be out of my life for long.
2/3
There’s so much talent on this record, and I think I would have liked it much more when I was younger, just as I loved “The Eminem Show,” but times have changed for me. There’s too much glorification of domestic violence, murder, and homophobia to get behind it.
Unique voice, generational knack for internal rhymes. Devoid of any appeal to me.
Culturally this was transformative for white dudes doing rap, in high school I remember Eminem being mostly shock and kind of funny, but I didn't listen to it much. It was kind of a fun joke, but now... ehhh it does not hold up well at all. Super important album in rap and 00s, but do I wanna listen to it? Hell no.
Heard it before?: No Enjoy it?: some tracks for sure but I feel his whole ego comes out in the skits and they are embarrassing and lack any humour whatsoever Favourite song: Track 3 - Stan
Slim Shady! Shockingly I like his voice, despite the almost whiny ness of it. The lyrics were questionable and the album was a little long for my liking. He has better albums, and I think he overused Slim Shady a tad too much.
Why do artists think it's artistic / creative to include dick-sucking tracks on an album? I can not believe I have to sit through that, because that sh*t is just so uncalled for and so unnecessary. I was enjoying this until that came on, it really pissed me off.
When it's in top form, the writing and delivery all razor sharp. Hard to get past the hate and homophobia though.
not my style
Wow, this is brutal. Clearly he’s talented but some is just too hard to listen to.
Last fm artist #477 I have a feeling this album has not aged well. Either that or we've all grown up and realised how shit these macho rappers are in the shadow of some of what conscious hip hop is doing. Drags a bit actually. I found myself wanting it to be over towards the end - checked out
Not. a fan
If you rhyme violent, misogynistic abs homopobic bullshit, I guess that's art. Sorry bout your childhood, Slim. Get therapy. Oh, but at least this album introduced more people to Dido.
2.5
Music for angry incels.
I've never been a fan of his. When he came out I thought he was crass. Now I think he was just immature. Either way, not my thang. I give him 2 stars for his rhyming skills alone.
Couldn't finish it. Childish, sexist and homophobic. He's just a little angry prick
This one was draining.
Aged like milk.
ya, that was interesting. Couple of songs/things whatever you want to call those just made me feel bad. But, some of the songs that were actual songs were just okay. Would not actively seek out.
Some good songs on here, but it feels front-loaded and it gets old.
There's talent here, but I still can't stand the sound of any of this. His voice, the jerky beats. It's super cool he got to make several albums so that he could talk about how much he wanted to kill every woman in his life. Stan is dark in an interesting way. The Real Slim Shady is an abomination.
What a mess. But before I dig into how horribly misogynistic this is, I want to also mention just how cheap the entire package sounds. It's absolute dogshit! Anyway, 'Stan' is overrated, most of the beats are boring and although I chuckled a couple of times, there were many more times where I had negative reactions that verged on the physical. What was his beef with Christopher Reeve anyway?
There's so much cleverness in some of the word choices here. I actually do like the tone of Eminen's voice and the style and some of the beats and all of that. I can get behind the creativity. But it's a damn shame that all of that is poured into content that sounds like the rantings of a 12 year old edgelord writing on a fanfiction subreddit. I tried real hard to be open minded, going so far as to just imagine I was listening to a concept album that was written as if it was the story for a horror film. But even that didn't hold up. And I shouldn't have to do that much work as a listener. This was just a bad era for music. It's lazy to blame the media, but I kind of blame the media. It created this weird feedback loop where people like Eminem and Marilyn Manson got publicity for being controversial so then they started to write songs about how they were controversial in order to create more controversy, which of course only fed the media what they wanted, and, really, was any of it actually good music? Prolly not. Unless you're the writer of this list and then ALL of it was shit you HaVe tO HeaR beFoRe yOu DiE!!!
Couldn't finish it. Sounds like an angry 14 year-old edge lord.
Not that good
Slim shady is the only song i liked but whos surprised by that
There’s some iconic songs in here (Stan especially), but there’s also a lot that made me uncomfortable.
Some good songs, but definitely not my favourite Eminem album. Some really awful stuff on here, TBH. 2.5, rounded down because it gave me a panic attack.
If you enjoy your misogyny and homophobia with a side of fat beats and slick rhyming then look no further.
Liked the way I am and Stan. A few what the hell tracks. Not a big fan overall of him or this album.
Not my favourite, a bit too edgy
Niet echt voor in de stemming vandaag. Beetje doorheen gescrolled. Op de hitjes na toch weer een hoop niggaz, hommes, bitches etc. Boring.
Mimimimimi! bitch! Mimimimimi fuck shit! Mimimimimimi suck my dick! Mimimimi-mimimimimi-mimimimi! Zeikstraal.
Ik heb dit soort muziek altijd een beetje gemeden. Gisteren begon ik er dan toch maar eens aan. In het begin viel het me mee, maar daar kwam ik van terug.
Not into rap
Theatrical anger. Never really cared for him back when this album came out, but I listened to it all the way through for the greater good. Kim was...uh, an interesting "song." For me, it's "meh."
i like it tbh, but i dont usually listen to rap
I am just not the audience for this
This is a really strong album for its antagonistic and attitude-fueld rap. Unfortunately too much of it carries a misogynistic and homophobic payload which is completely overdone and unnecessary. He attempts to excuse himself of responsibility but that only shows that he knows exactly what he's doing. It's unfortunate, because other than those aspects of the lyrical content, this album is great.
Yes, he has a talent and there's absolute classics like Stan. But you can't look past the content of so many of the tracks. The homophobia and misogyny just ruins it.
I just don’t enjoy these lyrics. Some of the music is good, but I just can’t get past the lyrics
Why oh why oh why do rap albums have to be sooooo long. Anyway, the big singles everyone knows, but the relentless dissing gets a bit wearying and the beats aren't as interesting as say Wu Tang. So by the end its all a bit samey.
Can tell it’s early 2000’s rap. Lots of west coast influence in the production. Not a huge fan of this album, the shock rap didn’t age particularly well, nor did the liberal use of slurs or violence against women. The main hits off this album still hold up.
Way more misses than hits, but still a fun time capsule of what everyone I knew in middle school was blithering about at the time
Ein junger Mann mit viel Wut und noch mehr Therapiebedarf. Ermüdend. Die Nummer mit Dre und Snoop Dog ist der einzige Lichtblick. Stan fand ich noch nie so gut.
The overall vibes hammer pathless thrall of difficult listening. I feel if you don’t care about people/media think and say about you, then writing an album about it defeats purpose. Some good beats & lyrics, but too dark overall for my liking
börjar rätt bra men det känns lite emellanåt lite tramsigt på ett sätt jag inte uppskattar
What a whiny bitch.
This will never be in my top ten, but it's hard not to like the storytelling in Stan, quite like The Way I Am too. Otherwise not much that caught my attention Not too keen on some of the profanity, explicitness etc e.g. My name if Marshall Mathers
Eminem's beats and rapping ability are impeccable here. It really holds up. Lyrically though damn this has NOT aged well. Truly from a different time.
Vaikka tiedän et kyseessä on alterego on tätä paikotellen aika raskas kuunnella. Julmaa. Oli kyl hienoo 2018 nähdä Eminem roskildes ku siel oli 200 000 ihmistä mutta kyl vähän häijyy tää tekee. Tykkään enemmän ehkä siitä tän levyn jälkeisestä superstara-aikakaudesta enemmän. 2/5
Juuh vähän on vaikee kuunnella, vaikka monta ihan teknisesti hyvää biisiä.
I appreciate what Eminem is doing, it's just not for me. Fave: The Real Slim Shady, The Kids
Até que funcionou bem pelos hits da época da mtv e bases interessante.
Pretty good, can't see myself listening to it much in the future though.
This album put me in a bad headspace. I can appreciate the amazing wordsmith Eminem is, but this horrorcore genre filled with misogyny and homophobia really bothers me. I wonder who this album is for and where the enjoyment in listening to can come from. I definitely won’t be going back.
Hmmm. The beats are awesome (Dr Dre's influence surely), the rapping skills are top notch and even the humour is welcome. But the misogyny and homophobia is toxic and impossible to overlook, maybe more so with the passing of 20 years or so. I still can't work out whether it is all front or not, but that probably isn't the point.
Beats are good, the rest I could leave.
I can't do this to myself, the sniggering idiocy of the introduction was enough
Very aggressive and hardcore. The lyrics are dark, vulgar, descriptive, obscene, and offensive, and each song tell a particular story. The sound is okay, and the album, in general, is fine, but I wouldn't listen to the entire thing again. The album was a shock, and the opening skit was ridiculous. The blatant and corny homophobia and misogyny are hard to get through, which I am sure would not have made it anytime. Kim was unsettling and uncomfortable in general, but a couple of songs were pretty good. Kan Tariff was, again, ridiculous and uncomfortable to listen to. The language was a just little too much.
Bit cringe
2000. Stan, The Real Slim Shady
As a non-rap-fan I guess I can still recognize that Eminem is pretty talented and has a way with words. That said, I still don't like rap and his lyrics pretty horrible despite his way with words. At least half of everything he has to say is a mixture of swear words, homophobia, domestic violence and "I'm white, deal with it". Stan is a good song and I spent the album hoping for another track with such high quality, but couldn't find it. I liked Kim and the D12 parts of Under The Influence. But that was it.
Lyrically I just didn’t like it. The misogyny and homophobia was just horrible
Here is a confession, I have never before listened to Eminem by choice.
Emminem is good at telling stories and I like some of his songs. With this album I get the appeal if hearing someone talk about extreme/taboo stuff, and yeah maybe there's irony or its a caricature or whatever, or its purposefully inflamitary/shocking, but in general I thought 'nah', whatever way I look at it, the answer is generally 'nah'.
Não é para mim, mas gostei da sonoridade. Esperava menos, para ser sincera.
He is a talented song writer and his lyrics can be great when he wants them to be. Like most electronic music though it just isn't something I can get into.
Not a fan…. Only liked Stan
I don't like his flow
Bruuuuuuuuuh (remix)
Eminem is a talented rapper, if he could’ve trimmed the length and varied his topics this could’ve been epic ftw
This didn't age well.
It was an improvement on the Slim Shady LP with some good moments, but still disliked most of it.
Starkt album? Oväntat bra, va verkligen inte beredd på all spice, va fan oväntat mycket som 'flög' 2000.
Some of these songs were omni-present when I was in high school. Used to carpool with a guy to school that was a big fan of this music and I think he had a burned CD with some of these tracks (along with OutKast's Stankonia and Dre's Chronic II) that was on a constant loop. So this brings back some memories... But having said that I was never much of an Eminem fan and much of this album has really not aged well. While I have to give him credit for being pretty funny a few tracks (The Real Slim Shady)... much of it is overwrought (Stan, Marshal Mathers) and (as usual with the genre) the homophobia and misogyny is a problem. He's also kind of obsessed with the pop landscape of the time (Britney Spears and the like, boy bands, etc) and that all seems so dated now. Also, like a lot of records from this time period, it's way too long (1 hr 12 min). Not even Snoop can save this one in the end. Kind of a fun memory trip, some clever/funny lyrics, but it doesn't really hold up (even compared with other records in this genre from the same time).
Glad I listened because it’s interesting creativity but it’s not really my cup of tea. I can see how it made the top 1001
The music itself is alright. I like that he doesn't hide his lyrics and voice behind a ton of noise and production. That said, the lyrics about rape, killing children, and homophobic slurs might have turned me off this one...
real conflicted because I like a couple of songs and I have a lot of nostalgia for it, but this album aged like milk. Went in expecting to like revisiting it but the majority of the songs left me physically cringing
I know some like it, but nothing there for me--ZERO connection.
Angy
Musically, his stuff is very interesting. Lyrically, he just sounds like Moby's pissed off alter ego.
very crass, not my favorite.
Ich mag die Beats. Ich kannte Stan aus dem Radio, mag es aber nicht so gern. Real Slim Shady = CLASSICCCC on every party!!! Alles in allem würd ich es mir aber nicht öfter anhören.
Stan is pretty good but the rest kinda sucks
This is both angrier and more homophobic than I remember. It’s a funny album though and an interesting time capsule for what an angry embattled rapper sounded like in 2000.
Eminem has some great songs but his more theatrical stuff is really unlistenable. I forgot how dark and aggressive his music was and is just shock for the sake of shock
I acknowledge how insanely talented Eminem is, and I love a few of his songs, but a whole album is tough to get through. Especially in songs where he murders his wife.
Was this album written by a 15 year old boy with serious issues with itself? "The Eminem show" is way more mature and interesting than this album.
I like Eminem’s hits a lot but I’m still out on most of this album. Terrific talent, truly disturbed
If I couldn't understand English I'd really like it. 4
3. Well, I can see why it is good, but at the same time it felt a bit Korny, and was just unpleasant for me to listen to. Also way too long.
I know a lot of people love this album, but I just can’t get passed the language he uses.
Undeniably groundbreaking and brilliant, but that doesn't give the misogyny a pass. Just way too much to be able to give it a high rating.
Rap so i was never going to like it but better than some of the other stuff. Some of the language used is insane.
So many solid tracks. Takes me back. Hard to listen to, with how violent and misogynistic and homophobic it is, though.
Not my favorite rapper, but always unique. I grew up listening to this album, and it was still hard to play through.
This album makes me cringe. It’s clearly hyper-edgy to sell. The rhymes and beats are fantastic, Dre and Em are masters of this genre. But the content is too brutal. Sorry, cannot relate...
Not my thing
Meh. El rap no es lo mío.
The back half of this one is trash, full of misogyny and homophobia. I still like most of the singles and the rhymes (for how they are constructed), but this one is a tough listen anymore.
I've not listened to many Eminem projects at length. They tend to work. He has his sound, his flow, his themes. Background music, almost, though playing Eminem as background music is a questionable choice at best. Listening a bit more carefully to the whole LP was not exactly kind. The flow and insults get a bit old, though of course the rhymes are tight and Eminem acts perfectly like himself. I wonder about that last thing, though: How much is actually there in the music and how much is persona and coverage? Looking back, there is a really disproportionate amount of attention on the controversy and the context of MMLP, as opposed to the songs themselves. The production is fine, if minimal. The weird focus on ICP has maybe aged worse than anything. Granted, the back end of the album picks up significantly.
The popular singles still stand strong, the rest of the album is either unremarkable or, frankly, lyrically gross.
I’ve heard high school boys swear less. Painful and childish.
Within the first 3 minutes I get "how about you suck his fucking cock" and "slut, you think I won't choke no whore til the vocal chords don't work in her throat no more". Yes yes I get that Eminem's schtick is his persona that doesn't represent his actual views but jesus christ go to fucking therapy. I had some hope at points because he has so much emotion and anger and it could've been channelled into making something powerful but any possibility of that is thrown away behind "BITCH FUCK YOU EAT SHIT AND DIE BITCH" for a solid hour. Also the actual beats? rhythm? songs? are choppy as hell and abrasive and generally awful to listen to. How the hell did this guy become one of the greatest rappers of all time?
ngl i was not looking forward to this album, 72 minutes is a big ask from a guy who i already doubted had even made that much audio worth listening to across his entire music career. still, i went in hoping to be proven wrong, but..... nahhhh. this just absolutely fucking sucked to listen to. ill get this out the way up front, yeah he's got good flow and wordplay, and yeah the dr dre beats are solid, obviously. but the themes and actual lyrical content just fucking suuuuck. its not that im offended by it, like lets be real, its 2026 and world leaders are saying worse shit than this out in public on the regular. i'm more just like, weary i guess? there wasn't any new ground to be covered by saying heinously bigoted shit, it's just edginess for the sake of being edgy, presumably with the goal of scaring the conservative americans of the day. but women and minorities are the ones being thrown under the bus for it, and throwing himself under there with us doesn't make it any better, yknow? this "oh, im not a misogynist/homophobe/etc, i hate everyone equally including myself" schtick was everywhere back then and all thru the 00s and 10s. its south park shit. it's postal 2 shit. it's early 4chan shit. and its so, so fucking lame. its a shame he committed so hard to it cos like, the exactly one track where he doesn't do this, "stan", is actually pretty good! it's also the only time it seems like he has anything interesting to say, with the topic of parasocial relationships being probably even more relevant now than it was back then. but in the context of this album, sandwiched between tracks about killing women as it is, it feels a little hollow maybe? and don't even get me started on the icp diss track immediately followed by audio of him roleplaying violent j and shaggy 2 dope sucking each other off. that shit is just straight up embarrassing, dude. damn. this might be the worst album we've had yet. i feel like hearing it lowered my opinions of everyone involved in its production. u really don't gotta listen to this before u die: if anything, doing so will actively make ur life worse.
Like the other Eminem album, there’s definitely talent out into this thing. It’s just that the lyrics and message of it all is so vile in such a juvenile way that it ruins it completely
Music for boys about insulting, assaulting or killing women and gay people. As we are reminded consistently it's all just a big joke (or we should suck Eminem's dick). Andrew Tate was 13 when this album came out.
I told my dad how much I hated this album and he said “just imagine living through it when it came out”
Nope.
An album/“artist” I completely wrote off when I was younger I was totally open to coming in and finding out I was wrong. This album sucks. He’s such a weird dork. If it’s meant to be a parody it’s a bad one. Feels like the birth of incel culture. Probably the worst album I’ve listened to on this list so far. Don’t disagree with it being on the list, because I think it’s good to know how crap it is.
Between "Stan", "Who Knew" and most notably "The Way I Am", I though thus was going to be a be a more introspective album than the previous... But from "The Real Slim Shady" through the rest of the album through the rest, it's the same shit just on steroids again (like "Bonnie & Clyde '97" before) the worst part being his spousal murder fantasy, and again bringing his child into the narrative. This is not what I enjoy about music at all... Fuck this guy! (3.7) ★½
Not for me at all. A wash of insipid loops and clumsy rhymes. Stan is interesting, at least, and The Real Slim Shady is okay, but after that the rest of the -unusually long - album felt like a chore.
Terrible
mkaaaay I don't think I have ever listened to an Eminem album in its entirety so let's see!! Update: I kinda liked Stan (w Dido) just bc of the chorus.... I think I'd heard it before Slim Shady was okay I'm back was okay too wtf with Ken Kaniff Kim kinda scared me... Okay.... I wouldn't listen to it again lmao 😭😭😭
So I mean it’s intentionally shocking, misogynistic and juvenile. I don’t have an issue with profanity but by golly he was really working to put that to the test. He’s undeniably talented and his rhyme schemes are very good, incorporating entire lines rather than just the end of a phrase. He’s smooth. That being said I didn’t enjoy any part of this. While his lyricism and wordplay are good I don’t find his beats engaging so I wasn’t super interested sonically. I’m not the biggest hip hop fan in general but even then this doesn’t rank anywhere on my list of enjoyments. That convinced with the massive length of the thing I was just overall fatigued most of the time listening to it. I feel conflicted on a score because there is legitimate great talent but overall I am sticking with purely my enjoyment of it.
Too ass long
Not for me
It was embarrassing then, it's somehow even more embarrassing now. Exhaustingly edgy, like the inane ramblings of the worst child that you hope no child you care about goes anywhere near. The most charitable reading is that it's all a 'joke', but even then, it isn't funny, at all. Obviously this is absolute trash, and proof if proof be need be that popular ≠ good. So, let's consider skits instead - is there ANY good skit, even on a less repugnant record than this? I really don't think there is, and hopefully during this trip into the mainstream I will eventually find a skit where I think 'Oh, I definitely would listen to this more than once.' But somehow I doubt it. uhhh I just heard Kim - wtf
Räpi rütmi ja musikaalse osa poolest on tegu väga soliidse albumiga. Mulle meeldib kuidas eminemi hääles on seda pinget ja emotsiooni, mida mõminaräpist ei leia. Siiski tekitab minus konfliktseid tundeid lüürika. Laul "Kim" eriti, oli tõesti raskesti kuulatav, sest eminem räpib naise tapmisest selle pärast, et ta ei meeldi talle tagasi. Viimases laulus "Criminal" räägib ta aga sellest, kuidas ta loomulikut ei tee asju, millest ta laulab, vaid tegu on ainult ta mõtetega. Siin võibki vaidlema jääda nagu alati, et kas mõte on piisav süüks. Räppmuusika on juba definitsioonilt tihti graafilise ja rämeda lüürikaga (mis see sõna oligi, kirjandusžanr), aga siiski sellise teksti paiskamine kultuuriruumi ja ka kiitmine näitab väga hästi meie ühiskonna kohta kuidas naiste ja vähemuste vastane vihakõne on ignoreetitav ja normaliseeritud. Ma jään siiski inimesena alati lõpuks positsioonile, et sõnad pole lihtsalt sõnad. Huvitav kuidas me oleme siia jõudnud. Kui kuulata arhailisi laule, siis need ei ole mina kesksed ja tugeva sõnastusega. See on teema, mida saaks arutada kaua ja pikalt. Igatahes, "he's a ten, but he fantasizes of femicide". Muusika eest 4/5, aga kogupildina 1/5.
I mean, other than the rampant misogyny, excessive depictions of violence, pervasive homophobia, its trivialisation of real world tragedies, dated pop-culture bashing, jarring use of skits, inconsistent quality of guest features, repetitive lyrical musings, its hypocritical "satire" defence of the lyrics supposedly being written by a cartoon character despite the album bearing his own moniker, its shirking of any accountability, sonically repetitive production, glorification of heavy drug use, depictions of incest and causing outrage for outrage's sake, this was a fantastic listen!
It shouldn't be a hot take, but Eminem is only famous because white men wanted something violent and misogynistic and childishly angry after the grunge and post grunge era, which was, by rock and roll standards, pretty feminist and thoughtful. And while Em is certainly a more mellowed dude and has better politics than you'd expect (I suppose getting money sometimes helps you grow the fuck up), the majority of his fans revere him as a great white savior. At this point, having already made his mark on shitty white men, you start getting the tightrope. You have the absolute homicidal glee of Kill You and then the 180 of Counselor Marshall being the voice of reason in Stan, and then gets back into the ultraviolet in Who Knew, while starting to take it meta, arguing with the critics. It's funny how the free speech absolutists always end up being really really focused on insisting that they did nothing wrong. And sure, I get the need to have an outlet. That's a part of lots of music (gangsta rap long got this same reputation just for talking about surviving in ghettos and gang life, but for some reason, can't put my finger on it, Em hasn't had it stick). I get the idea of creating a world and a persona that isn't you. But it's weird to have created a persona for yourself who is such a piece of shit, and then spend so much of this album oscillating between doubling down and going full on victim. “Radio won't even play my jam,” he unironically growls on a radio hit. But that's not really all. Because again, if Eminem wasn't ironically part of the blueprint for the white grievance that gave us the trash politics of the last 15 years that he is probably not aware of his part in, it wouldn’t be the only album like this out there. But without that? Em's flow tends to be about reference, about name dropping, about mining culture and being snarky about it. It makes The Real Slim Shady incredibly dated. Imagine not knowing Eminem, and hearing him in 2026 rapping about Britney Spears. Imagine hearing him then rap another song (two tracks later on the album) that also whines about Nsync and Christina Aguilera (and then a third time on the next track). It's either lazy or obsessive (sort of like his homophobia. Or his mommy issues. Or or or) One thing he -is- good at, though, besides playing the victim, is picking music to steal to rap over. I am sure I'll have to hear his first album too, so we'll get there. Dido's “thank you” doesnt really make a lot of sense on Stan, but she got big retroactively off it. And yet, the best thing on the album is Bitch Please II, which basically rides off of Dre, Snoop, and the laurels of a track that was better. Anyway, this is childish pap. Some dude in your high school class heard Kim and felt some real feels about it and definitely made it his personality. Some dude in your class who will say terrible things about black folks thinks this is the greatest album of all time. That's probably true even if you were in high school in the 70s. This is music for broken shitty white men of all generations, regardless of what the artist wants to pretend. And honestly, after over an hour of this bullshit, and expecting i'd at least be able to praise the dude's flow? Nah. That's not even interesting, and even less so after 18 tracks of cringe rhymes and cringier skits and cringiest “oh poor me, i am not being serious, the real oppression is happening to me” bet-hedging. 1* and to paraphrase ol’ Three Personas, one can suck my dick if one doesnt like that shit.
I have a lot of reactions to this, and I can't synthesize it into something coherent after one listen. I'll share the dominant two. 1) What does someone's background have to be to enjoy this or relate to the feeling of being so oppressed economically and culturally that they want to hear about Eminem's mother being strangled and raped because it's freeing to be able to say it and not care about the backlash? That's a scary and sad thought. 2) I can only imagine the backlash Eminem received after his first album, and this album was released only one year later which means the backlash must have been immediate, and Eminem must've written this incredibly fast. In response, he writes one of the most self-reflective albums I've ever heard. I don't really agree with or understand most of his perspectives, but I give him credit being transparent and reflective with his response while keeping a good flow.
Getting this on the first day of Pride month is one of those things that feels like a homophobic assault - mostly because this thing is an assault that is occasionally homophobic. I made it four minutes into this 72-minute album before the first use of the f-slur, which is a record for this list.
Just really juvenile stuff here. Possibly entertaining if you are a 15 year old egdelord in 2001.
He’s genius level-talented on the mic but uses it to...do some tired edge lord shit with more corny-ass melodies and beats.
Did not finish the album. While I can understand this was from a different time and rap is another form of poetry, it was hard to sit through line after line about self-harm and domestic violence and hear slurs used towards those he doesn’t agree with that are regularly targeted at the disabled community. Not for me.
Misogyny and homophobia are a bit of a turn off for me dawg. Pass.
too much swearing and bad lyrics
I was excited for this record because I knew "Stan," and thought that it was a beautiful and sad song -- ahead of its time -- about parasocial relationships. So, I wondered what else would be on this record, and how Eminem would depict other parts of his changing circumstances. I was not impressed. The violent misogyny is disgusting. It doesn't escape my notice that the "Stan" is the only moment of real empathy on this record, and it's reserved for a man. But "Stan" shows us that Eminem *is* capable of emotionally textured writing; he can go into this gear when he wants to. He just doesn't want to. Other reviewers have made comments such as "Even though it's an offensive album, you can't deny its mastery." Actually, you can. Being an artist is not just about technical expertise. (I’d even argue that technical mastery is lacking here; if “suck my dick” is your best retort on multiple occasions, you’ve got some work to do.) Artistry is about saying something that other people need to hear, that they do not have a way to put into words themselves. Eminem knew that his work was inflammatory, that it would make the world a crueler place, that it would give young men a vocabulary and a license to embrace their worst impulses, and he did it anyway. His intention was to shock people, and part of being a good artist is to *check your intentions* and realize when they are wrong. On the Wikipedia page, it's noted that Johnny Cash defended the record, saying that "Folsom Prison Blues," "Jesse James" and a host of other songs are also violent. (I myself appreciate "Down By The River" and Nick Cave's Murder Ballads record.) Due respect, but the difference between these songs and The Marshall Mathers LP is the sense of morality. In "FSB," the man in prison admits that he did something wrong. "Jesse James" is a Robin Hood story, a legend. The Marshall Mathers LP is simply cruel. It was important to listen to this record as part of this tour of music history, but it is a despicable work.
it’s really not that great. he’s pretty corny and that edgelord shit gets old real quick. the beats aren’t anything to write home about either. stan is probably the only good song on here lol the rest is either terrible or okay at best. “oh man why do people think i’m a homophobic, misogynistic, violent person???? it’s just a joke they don’t know me!!!” *next song* “i’m a homophobic, misogynistic, violent person! i mean everything i say!”
While I do enjoy most of his radio songs, Eminem is just not for me. The misogyny, homophobia, and violence are just super off-putting. It's really part of the reason I was pushed away from hip-hop in the 90s (continuing into the early 2000s).
Sigh. What are we even doing here? It's like the rantings of a crazy person set to a drum machine and samples of a shitty ringtone on repeat. This guy needed therapy way worse than he needed a record deal. But he’s rich and I’m not, so I guess I’m the idiot here.
This album was huge when I was a tween. I just can't get into it. I'm not a big rap fan but this just feels like something a 13 year old boy would create. It feels like its claiming to be edgy and funny while spouting incredibly mysoginistic and homophobic phrases. I think this album can exist and people can be offended by it but I just didn't get any enjoyment out of it. It's over the top but it pushes the edge a bit too much. I understand its meant to be voice of a lower class or the street but maybe I'm just too old to enjoy this.
Utter rubbish. 72 minutes of misogyny, homophobia, violence. It's rap music for 13 year olds that find these things edgy and cool. To anybody with a developed frontal lobe it's just offensive for the sake of being offensive. First 1 I've given and I didn't even think twice. To give it its dues, Stan is the only bearable song with great sampling from Dido and a relatively interesting story.
DNF I understand it’s iconic but…
Definitely not
...but if you can get past the misogyny, homophobia, and graphic violence...
genuine drivel besides stan. some of the worst written lyrics ever to be penned. i'm not a puritan or anything who hates taboo subjects in music but there's only so many times i can listen to eminem rap about fucking women and ripping apart the gay and mentally disabled. just gets boring.
The first Parental Guidance album I owned (bought in Oban), and I was curious to go back to it. It was terrible! A deeply unpleasant listen. Favourite track: N/A
No.
Der US-amerikanische Rapper Eminem legte mit diesem dritten Soloalbum ein Werk vor, das den Hardcore Hip-Hop und Horrorcore des Jahres 2000 auf eine neue Stufe hob. Aufgenommen in mehreren Studios rund um Detroit – darunter The Mix Room, Encore Studios, Larrabee Sound Studios, Chung King, The Record Plant und 54 Sound – entstand die Platte in einem kreativen Intensivmarathon von kaum zwei Monaten, überwiegend produziert von Dr. Dre und Eminem selbst sowie den Bass Brothers, The 45 King und Mel-Man. Aftermath Entertainment, Interscope Records und Eminems eigenes Shady Records verantworteten den Vertrieb. Inhaltlich ist das Album eine Abrechnung mit dem eigenen Ruhm, mit Kritikern, mit der Boulevardpresse und mit persönlichen Dämonen zugleich. „Stan" – mit Dido als Stimme der Vernunft – seziert die pathologische Seite des Fanseins mit einer Präzision, die kaum ein anderer Track der Rap-Geschichte erreicht. Daneben tobt sich Eminem auf „Kim" und „Kill You" in fiktiven Gewaltfantasien aus, während „The Real Slim Shady" und „The Way I Am" die Absurdität des Popbetriebs karikieren. Der Kontrast zwischen diesen Polen macht die LP so schwer einordenbar – und so fesselnd. Kommerziell brach das Album sämtliche Rekorde: 1,76 Millionen verkaufte Exemplare in der ersten Woche allein in den USA, Grammy für das beste Rap-Album 2001, Platin-Regen auf mehreren Kontinenten. Die Provokation war dabei kein Selbstzweck, sondern Mittel zur Verdichtung – wer genau hinhört, findet unter dem Lärm ein Album voller innerer Logik, schwarzen Humors und überraschend verletzlicher Momente. The Marshall Mathers LP ist kein angenehmes Album – aber es ist ein notwendiges: ein Dokument einer Figur, die das Widersprüchlichste verlangte und genau das lieferte.
Don't make me go through an album by Eminem ever again.
Mostly unbearable. Dido is the only redeeming thing on this album for me.
Sounds like a petulant angry kid…mad about the world…self absorbed. It would have appealed to young kids especially those experiencing abuse and bullying. So there is a place for very personal unpleasant experiences to be shared. For me it’s a masterpiece of horror with homophobic, misogynistic infantile wordplay…a litany of abusive words. Ugly.
Ummm, . . . no. I'm tempted to say this isn't so much music as . . . confession? Or public therapy? He's sort of bleeding negative emotions, which isn't very interesting (interesting only in the way that a car wreck is interesting), and feels selfish and needy. I mean, a few bits are kind of clever, but, to get to them, you have to wade through mountains of sludge; it's SO not worth it. I just would never choose to listen to this; life is too short, and there's too much good music out there. 1 star. Catchy groove on 'Real Slim Shady.' But then it just keeps repeating, and gets old fast. Like the whole album. Had to force myself to listen to the whole thing.
It took me 4 times to finish this album and then I paused my project for 3 weeks.
An album I would replace this one with: A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders (1993) 5/5
Trash
will never listen
eminem lidando com a fama e o fato dele ser influente agora mas sempre soa tipo: "tá ofendido? que bom 😜*som de peido"
Ok it started ok and tolerable then I wanted to stop listening and it was way too long.
I get that he goes after shock value with lyrics, but having the same refrain/phrases repeated over, and over, and over in almost every song just looses it & is lazy. I enjoyed his jabs at bubble gum pop, but not enough to get past the rest of his lyrics. was thinking this was a solid 2 until I got to Kim....and that was just incredibly uncomfortable to listen to
I’m not one to be overly sensitive about lyrics but this was just a no for me. The sheer volume of lyrics about violence against women and rampant homophobia are just too much to get past. If you have to tell someone to suck your dick on like 5 different songs if they don’t like what you’re saying, you’re trying too hard to be offensive and maybe you need to come up with some more compelling lyrics. This is shock value for the sake of shock value and it’s lazy and juvenile.
2 - musique d'ado acnéique qui veut paraitre tough alors qu'il pisse encore dans ses draps. goo goo ga ga j'adore la violence (especially against women), j'ai pas peur d'offenser le monde parce que je suis un gangster goo goo ga ga. what a waste of ressources. 1 3 - accurate portrayal of parasocial relationships and how deep it can run. suddenly your life revolves around them and everything they don't or don't pertains to you. alors qu'en réalité, tu n'es qu'une goutte dans un océan de fans. 5 5 - violence just for the sake of it. par dessus tout, cet album est vraiment imprégné de misogynie and once you notice it you just unsee (not that it's at all hard to notice lol). c'est écoeurant. 1 7 - couldn't care for it. 2 8 - look at me, i'm so edgy. 2 9 - look at us, we are so edgy. we hate women, we hate kids, we hate gays. we just looove violence, don't you get it ??? 1 10 - im going to start sounding like a broken record. 1 i give up. life's too short to waste an hour on this album. somme toute, c'est un ramassis de merde. we get it, you don't like women, kids, gays. matter of fact, you hate everyone. you're the edgiest white boy alive. geeeez
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Grow the fuck up, dude. Strongly dislike this.
I never really got the hype with Eminem. He was fine for a few singles to sing along to at a party or in the car, but musically I didn't get what the hype was about; let alone from where and why he comes off boasting he's Gods gift to music and his fans constantly perpetuating that. He came off as only a bit more restrained in that regard than Kanye West but at least Ye makes good music. This is the mindset I had going into this album. But when I started with this website I decided everything gets a fair shot, we're grading on a scale of 1-5 but realistically all these albums should be in the top 5% of at least all western music, right? I wish. I barely got through the album. Angsty teenager rap appealing to the lowest common denominator that goes on for way too long. The best parts of the album had nothing to do with Eminem and more to do with actual compelling artists involved with the project, such as Dr. Dre. I was hoping for something more grounded, introspective and mature from the album cover and considering this is his 3rd album, and considering the talent that was involved with making it. All in all the ethos of the album is just Eminem's singles stretched over 72 minutes- if you like that it's fine, but I'm just gonna keep assuming you're only 14 years old in either a physical, mental or spiritual way. This all being said; deserves a place on this list similar to Chocolate Starfish and Hot Dog Flavored Water. This (along with Tarantino, South Park and others which I do actually love) perpetuated the early 2000's edginess and shock value going on in pop culture at the time. One star for the content of the album, 5 stars for importance. Listening notes: First off; which one am I supposed to listen to? Spotify has like 4 Marshall Mather LPs with a different tracklist Funny how Eminem personified and mocked his fanbase on Stan and his fanbase still stans the guy- I assume since most Em fans I met are children in one way or another Honestly, the more you listen to Eminem the more you notice that his way of getting out of a lyrical corner is mostly just throw an edgy obscenity and hope enough people are shocked enough to not notice he's doing that Funny how he disses Fred Durst like he didn't get popular making almost the exact same music Kim verges on being snuff music- and not in a good, compelling way either And it ends on Eminem kind of pointlessly LARPing as a bank robber, ugh.
Definitely not an album I’d listen to again. Not a fan.
Nope. I guess I just don't like Hip-Hop generally or shock theatre.
I remember listening to this and loving it at the time. I remember now why I stopped listening and never went back. Boring, aggressive, angry, mean.
I tried to give this a chance but I just couldn’t get through it all. Just nothing appealing in it at all for me.
Not my speed Very dated
Exhausted by the start of the second track. He’s undeniably talented but his choices are indefensible. Wish I could unlisten.
I kind of wanted to like this, but I just don’t. The violent lyrics is just very un appealing. I like the beat of rap music often, but this did really catch me.
horrifying lyrics
For the first time in 80 albums I couldn't bring myself to finish listening to the whole thing. Just loathsome. He had his moment in the 2000s where he sold albums hand over fist and won award after award, but how about we just leave him there with his homophobia and misogyny and teenager bravado and addictions? Nice beats I guess. There are, it seems, two albums from Eminem on this list and I have done with both of them. So let's move on.
Naaaah the lyrics are fucking disgusting.
really horrible icky vibes
Ok this is the first album I simply refuse to listen to because I know I'll hate it lol I rlly just hate gross music that's gross for no reason except shock value and to be hateful
Hard work. I hate this for the reasons he is bragging about. Total shite.
Same as Dre’. Beats and sounds are cool but can’t take the lyrics. Same fake bravado and real misogyny and slur dropping. Maybe he’s playing a character but it ain’t working. And it keeps getting worse
Not terrible but not my pick