Reviews (page 4 of 9)
Been a while since the generator has given me an album this horrendous
This is a weird one yet strangely enthralling at times
That certainly was an experience. I truly didn't hate it: it had a lot of solid rhythms and beats, and the (excessively) experimental instrumentation made this worthwhile, though I wouldn't place it among the clouds. It deserves better than to be below Kid Rock, for sure.
After reading the reviews, I was convinced I was going to hate this album. However, I actually found it quite intriguing. The album is very experimental and unlike anything I normally listen to. I wouldn’t necessarily choose to put it on myself, but I did enjoy getting to know it. Therefore, I would give it 2.5 stars.
Noise... deliberately made. Something cool i guess but a long way from my taste.
There's no enough words to say how much I hate this album. All I will say is torture is not entertainment.
Uh… Hell Yes, this is awful! Thank you for bringing this to my ears! This truly is an album that one should listen to before death. The low-bar in the “Alternative German, Cats-in-a-Bag ” genre has been set.
On ne se cachera pas qu'il faut être dans le mood pour s'écouter du Einstürzende, sinon ça risque de mener à une psychose ou encore pire. On a fait un tour guidé des bâtiments de la Stasi à Berlin et dans une salle ça parlait de leurs collaborateurs (souvent forcés). Blixa Bargeld n'a pas eu le choix de collaborer sinon la Stasi allait bloquer sa carrière artistique. Il s'est rendu compte plus tard qu'au moins un autre membre du groupe collaborait (de force aussi) aussi avec la Stasi. Donc plusieurs personnes s'entre-espionnaient.
Je trouve qu'ils ont un sens de la mélodie qui se rapproche des Beatles.
Ce sera un non pour moi. Absence de plaisir total.
I'm not sure this album qualifies as music. So far song 1, Tanz Debil, is nothing but trash can noises and the occasional German word for "shit". Steh Auf Berlin is a drill, metal drums, and distorted radio noises. There is also a lot of just screaming in general. "Gastarbeiterdub" is by far the most interesting song as it reminds me of foundations of electronic music, but then come the drills again. It doesn't help my review is this album that I don't know German, but the album's "rough punk" sound and style of "music" isn't helping me want to understand it in any capacity.
Absolute chaos
Wouldn't really describe this as music, just noises. Got to the 4th track, declared it absolute shit. DNF.
7/10
Are you really punk if you don’t like Kollaps? For that matter, do you really like music if you can’t—or you’re unwilling to—wrap your head around this? Foundational.
5. long awaited
1/5
Interesting for one song but a whole album?
The drums in the opening track shouldn't slap this hard 😭. A bunch of interesting industrial sounds set to atmospheric tunes, like German Velvet Underground. I thought I would hate this album given it's the second-worst rated, but I can kinda see the vision. I only see it cause I was playing some Roblox games, and it fit the sound almost perfectly.
I think this is the first one that I started and just couldn't get through.
Even speed listening 15 seconds per track didn’t save this album; again there should be the ability for a negative score rating
Noisy
No idea what was going on there. Not totally unpleasant but not something I will be going back to on a regular basis!
2/10… experimental / industrial / *1981
i dont want to listen to this any more
Walk past a german construction site with angry workers if you want to hear the live version of this album. Words cannot explain how bad this is. 1 Star is waaaay too generous.
This one was somewhat of a struggle to get through. Not because I didn't appreciate what they were doing, the influence and diy attitude are things I really enjoy. But at times the intensity of this album and the length together felt like the upper limits of what is tolerable to me for a causal listen. I think if I went to a performance art show and this was the backing track I would think "makes sense, I like it" but to try to listen to this as a stand alone album the way I would listen to my favourite music I have to admit I don't really get. I appreciate they are the godfathers of industrial music and this album in a lot of ways fascinates me but I can't in good faith review as "music that I really like".
So work has been a bit shit lately; loads of stress and frustration. The other day I was headed into work dreading a presentation while simultaneously lamenting the fact that I didn’t even have time to give said presentation with all of the actual work I needed to do. Well, I’d been listening to a lot of early Nick Cave at the time, but somehow even the Birthday Party wasn’t able to cut through the mood I was in. I ended up putting on Halber Mensch by Einstruzende Neubauten and suddenly I felt a weight off my chest. I followed Halber Mensch with Kollaps and Kollaps with Tabula Rasa. I don’t know what it is about their music specifically, but it gave me the catharsis I needed to right myself and keep pressing on. For a more light hearted aside, I absolutely love that someone thought it was a good idea to have Einstruzende Neubauten open for U2 during their Zoo TV Tour. They were apparently thrown off the tour after the first show when they threw an iron bar into a booing crowd. Personally, the only thing I find surprising here is that they were given the opportunity to open for U2 in the first place. Like, there aren’t many bands that would even have iron bars available to throw into a crowd in such a situation, but obviously Einstruzende Neubauten would. Anyways, this is an album that I love. It’s also an album that I would not recommend to most people, but I will still argue it absolutely should be on a list of 1001 albums you should hear before you die. It's a bit of a paradox.
You gotta be sure to leave room at the bottom of album lists for things like this. It's just awful. It's worse than the spy v. spy album. It's worse than the proto-industrial album. Because now it's loosely industrial, plus distorted German screaming and some literal shrieks. It is not suitable for entertainment purposes. There may have been one song towards the end of the album that sounded like music.
It’s like a cross between Suicide and the Birthday Party but in German. Proto-Rammstein. They definitely put the industry in industrial with the use of actual power tools on some tracks. Can’t say I will ever go searching this out but it was interesting. 3/5
Not my cup of tea.
What are we even doing here...
Not as bad as everyone makes out. But too many of the tracks are half thought out experiments rather than fully developed ideas. I guess I'm in the minority that thought this could have been longer....
This was annoying. 1/5
Wow, that was a long 56 minutes. Whilst these guys were pioneers in industrial/noise, it doesn’t make it any easier to listen to! Drills, clanging metallic sounds, constant screaming and yelling (in German, naturally), angle grinders and distorted electronic noises. There is some relief later in the album with the instrumental ‘dub’ pieces, which you could see as an influence of people like Trent Reznor. As a piece of art, I’d rate it highly, but as a listening experience, hard to recommend. 1/5 stars from me.
The only sledgehammer I want blasting in my headphones is Peter Gabriel’s. JFC no no no.
It's wild that this is from 1981. I love the line from this through to 90s industrial, which I actually love. It's a little too discordant for me to want to put on regularly but I respect the artistry
This record is on this list because everyone needs to know stuff like this exists. It's not really in my wheelhouse BUT I'm going to give it a higher rating because there is some absolute garbage on this list that needs to be at the bottom. And really, this is a fascinating document of the scene in West Berlin, and a wild contrast (or is it?) with their neighbours, Tangerine Dream.
Unfortunately this album was very much not for me and I did not enjoy this listening experience. I can appreciate what they were trying to achieve with trying to sound more punk and experimental but it did not hit for me. It sadly just sounded like a bunch of random electronic machine sounds and banging on metal plates which was not my fantasy. I can see how this could be enjoyable for some but it did not hit the mark for me. After a while it just sounded very repetitive and just like noise instead of music to me.
If you needed proof that music critics are bourgeois dweebs you can find it in Einsturzende Neubauten being considered to be “industrial music” even though the instrumentation here, jackhammers and angle grinders snd circular saws, belongs much more on the demolition site than in the factory. This isn’t the EN album I’d choose if I was to only pick one (and they do absolutely belong on a list like this) but it’s in a way their purist expression of their approach to music or sound or whatever you want to call it. It still sounds harsh, verging sometimes into pure noise, is probably unlistenable to most people, and the forty-something years since its release hasn’t dulled it or made it any less abrasive, which is a lot more than can be said about a lot of boundary-pushing or transgressive music.
I love foreign music but this was mostly long instrumentals. Not my thing.
Could this be any harder to listen to? I tried… I really did. This should’ve been the last album on the list because then if it killed me listening to it (which it almost did) at least I could have said I listened to all the albums I was supposed to before I died. In all seriousness, kudos to this group for being sonically experimental. It’s just that the sounds are so uncomfortable and unpleasant that any value in the experimentation is drowned out by the discordance.
I’m not even sure how to review this one. It may be the first time I didn’t listen to something all the way through. I try to make a good faith effort but I was done halfway through.
ihr checkt halt einfach nicht
Very immersive
What the fuck?
This album was hard to listen to, I am not a fan of the industrial sound. I get how revolutionary it was at the time, but yikes!
German industrial clang
Experimental German techno / industrial vibe
Out there, unconventional musical ideas. Challenges the listener.
у меня и так болела голова, а тут еще и этот кошмар. ну спасибо
Caveman's death grips
This certainly played!
Knowing this is the lowest rated of any of the albums on this generator, I came in with an open mind with the hope that I could find something to like. However this is pretty indefensible. Most of it is just noise with the banger that is the title track. It honestly wasn't offensive though like some of the albums i've given the minimum score to, and I chose to only listen to the 38 minutes of the original tracklist, no bonus recordings, which meant there was no excessive suffering. For that, I'm giving it a 2.
Better than badly drawn boy
No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of.
I really dont have the words to describe this. It was noise, a lot of noise. However towards the end it didnt sound as bad. One of the tracks I nearly enjoyed. It was crap but better than some of the crap this exercise has thrown up.
Remember when Stomp was a thing? It's like they had a nervous breakdown. Or when you're a child and run at a metal fence with a stick, but the playground is haunted. I think this was music used during psychological trials to see what happens to the brain when steelworkers are given too much overtime. This really is shit. There is no other word for it. Is it meant to be art? As a side note, Taylor Swift was yesterday's pick; only here could someone listen to that and this sequentially. Spotify data analysts must be baffled.
Woah did I just hear the opening riff of Flying Whales in Abstieg and Zerfall? Anyways…. Now I’m listening to Gojira instead of this and enjoying my time more.
Very hard to rate. It's pushing the boundaries of what I'd actually call "Music". Glad I listened though. It's like traveling to the edge of the known world and finding a dragon or some beast. Good to know that it's there. Glad to have heard it. Don't need to go back.
35/1089 этим пытали несчастных узников концлагерей орущая хуйня это ужасно но можно накинуть +1 за аутентичность
просто пиздец музыка из ада... лоботомия... сковородкой по голове... предсмертная агония... альбом душевнобольного
I like raw punk metal stuff like this but they never lend well it an album, sits in the same place as that circle jerks album
i hope this is satire
What the hell is this crap? Zero stars if that was a choice.
I thought this wasn't that baaaad and I think I like noise music, because I enjoy My Bloody Valentine and yadda yadda, yadda, but that feeling was only for the first song... THEN the second song of the album came on and holy hell, that was so bloody loud! I mean I had done a little research on these guys and knew they are infamous for the atrocious amounts of noise they've made via home-made instruments - which sounds like a combination of a screwdriver and a vacuum cleaner, so I'm honestly not sure what I was expecting to be different. And they manage never let up the noise after the second song, so I nervously kept my volume at a low-to-moderate range so I don't get hearing damage.
Second lowest rated album on this challenge after the Throbbing Ghistle album. This one is very avantgarde, and industrial with unbearable shouting and custom built instruments like some metal things hitting to each other. It's a very German album in a sense that it's not fun, it's noisy and kind of scary. I understand German so it was at least a bit interesting to listen to what he was shouting. I was listening to it while there was a construction going on in the neighbour's so it felt like I was listening to this horrible noise in stereo. As a consequence I have headaches now which isn't a surprise. At least it is a tiny bit more interesting than the Throbbing Ghistle album so it deserves to be the second worst album here. Still unbearable of course.
Hör mit Schmerzen? Já, einu sinni, en það er alveg nóg fyrir mig. Þetta eru vissulega hljóð, en ekki eru þau áhugaverð.
Fav: Jet’m Least Fav: Steh Auf Berlin Typa shit James Sunderland hears when he’s fighting for his life against the monsters in Silent Hill 2
Will the construction on this street ever end?!?!?!? I'm sick of this noise :'-(
German Industrial Avant Garde music is not for me. I listened to the entire album but it was a very tough listen for me.
do you think this is what construction workers listen to to sleep? i mean, idk if i have much of a review for this one.. i decided to spend my thanksgiving listening to a german industrial noise album and all i got out of it is how i guess a drill going through concrete is coolish? i could see how someone would like it but, im a little without words and too much metal banging with each other lol 4/10
Tough listen. Was unable to make it through it.
Great Songs: Good Songs: Kollaps, Sado-Masodub Mid Songs: Tanz Debil, Steh Auf Berlin, Negativ Nein, U-Haft-Muzak, Draussen Ist Feindlich, Jet'm, Sehsucht, Vorm Kreig, Abstieg and Zerfall, Helga, Schiess Euch ins Blut, Rohrbombe, Futuristischer Dub, Liebesdub, Rivieradub, Lunebest Bad Songs: Schmerzen horen, Spionagedub, Mikrobendub, Gastarbeiterdub
Nowhere does it say the albums necessarily have to contain music. This album does not contain music, it contains almost 40 minutes of an angry German man shouting on a particularly noisy building site. Call me old fashioned, but I'm just here for the music. If you like this kind of thing, then more power to you, but personally I find it all phenomenally juvenile and uninteresting.
Collapsing scaffolding just isn't my ASMR kink.
This was hot
What the... I listened to as much as I needed, which is enough to say I'm glad I never heard of Einstürzende Neubauten before today, and I'll never hear them again. I don't mind _some_ Lärmmusik, but not as much as these guys do. I recognize their right to label this as music, and encourage everyone to at least try to make music, but I cannot promise to listen. 1 star for the effort.
I can't say I enjoyed this but I will give an extra point for: - It's a genuine experience to listen to - It sounds closer to actual music than I was expecting (which is admittedly a low bar, but still) - The personnel section on wikipedia made me laugh, as it allocates all of them to 'noises'. The instrument I always wish I'd learned to play
I keep having to say this about albums included on this list. Making random noises with things is not avant garde music making, it is noise. If you can take those random sounds and make them into something that sounds like anything other than random noise then you may have made music. Until then keep it out of my ears.
Did not finish. Very german loud rock
I like a lot of industrial but prefer stuff that leans a bit more EDM. Examples would include Cabaret Voltaire and Front 242. This leans more towards noise, which is not as enjoyable for me. Good inclusion on the 1001 in terms of variety and exposure... certainly everyone should listen to a few industrial albums to see if they like it. Mass market industrial like Nine Inch Nails is good too. I'm a big fan of Ministry, for those who want something harder... but as I mentioned, this veers too close to noise for me to really enjoy it.
It's weird, I am a famous enjoyer of industrial music/songs where European men scream at me, but this just aggressively did not do it for me. Maybe it'd be better with more of a melody? Or possibly I'm just not their audience.
You know, for all that people go on about this i expected something a lot more... More? That's far from a complaint, but considering the state of industrial music nowadays this was refreshing in its restraint - there's no need for a Wall of Sound here, they are very willing to let the sounds ring out and allow you to feel the space that the music is performed in. Sure the individual clashes, clatters, screams and screeches can be grating, but it all comes together into something fantastically interesting and surpassing melodic in parts, and I'm definitely going to have to seek more of this out! Fave track on first listen: Negativ Nein
Kollaps - Einstürzende Neubauten 1/5 - Sounds like starvation and a jackhammer. Tanz Debil 2/5 - Brother. Steh auf Berlin 1/5 - A song for the big construction enjoyers. Negativ Nein 2/5 - A song for the big drowning enjoyers. U-Haft-Muzaf 1/5 Some more screeching. Schmerzen hören 2/5 - Hermit Shmatzen. Jet'm 2/5 - Slightly audible. Kollaps 2/5 - We kollapsing with this one also too long. I gave up, I just got more annoyed the longer this long album went on (not sure if that was intentional Helga 0/5 - AIN'T NO WAY THEY MADE A SILENT SONG.
This hurt to listen to, there's something thoroughly unsatisfying about the texture of this album at points. I swear anybody who rates this positively is just being a contrarian for the sake of it - and that's the only album on the list I'll say that for.
Made me laugh a bit at least
4.5
Somehow, this was not as bad as Throbbing Gristle. Maybe because there's at least a beat on many of these tracks? I mean, no sane person is ever spinning this album up for background music while working or jogging or hanging out with friends, and I don't think any sane person genuinely thinks this is pleasant to listen to, but I at least understand how some people could find this interesting. It's creative, unlike anything else, gave some weirdos ideas for sound effects in later works, and there was some amount of skill involved. All that said: no thank you. This was hard to listen to. I appreciate that these weirdos found new ways to make weird sounds, but in no way was this enjoyable. Part of me wanted to make it through the whole thing so I could give it a 2, but I'm not that much of a masochist. I made it through most of 15 tracks and that was enough of a headache for me.
This is the most fun I can have out of an album without understanding the album at all. It's brilliant.
I didn't hate it. Obviously not an easy listen, but I think it's superior to a lot of boring stuff on this list.
Scheiße
Umm. This is music?
Good intro to industrial rock and punk.
Yeah it's awful to listen to, but I'm so tired of 60's psychedelic and shitty 80's post-punk this is actually welcome.
This record is a noise record. I didn't get into it on first listen, but I didn't have much desire to listen again. I'll check it out again later to see if it opens for me, but right now, nothing struck me as something I'd like to listen to regularly. Admittedly, I didn't listen very closely, so I may be missing out. We'll see. Three stars.
Surprisingly enough, I didn't find this to be the worst album I've heard while participating in this project. Okay, I certainly wouldn't wish to listen to it again, but some of the tracks do have a strangely hypnotic quality that isn't entirely unpleasant. Because of that, I won't include this in my growing list of one-star albums, but two is definitely appropriate.
Weniger als 1 stern geht ja nicht, mir gefällt eigentlich nur Tabula Rasa
Worst music ive ever heard
This could be used as torture for your enemies.
That's not my taste in music - music? - uaaah
The most industrial album of all time.
I was waiting for this to get good and it never happened
Albums like this are the reason this list should exist. It's strange, it's distressing, and I never would have sought it out on its own. But it's the kind of thing that everyone should hear at least once. Great music provokes an emotional response. The album starts incredibly abstract and industrial, building track upon track until it reaches the title song, which is the first piece on the album that sounds like a traditional song. It's a moment to breathe, but even still, the driving beat keeps up. After "Kollaps" ends, it dissolves back into sounds of metal clashing and abandons the pretense of melody and harmony. It's an utterly unique experience, and puts me in the mind of an art gallery, which is neat. Favorite track: "Kollaps"
This was fucking intense. Generally b Not into what I'd consider an "art" album but this sounded like the soundscape in hell. The fact that it was 1981 and they were improvising with random objects and tools to create this abrasive sounds is innovative.
Not for me
Not for me, not much music in there, more samples of noises (like banging pans, blenders, jackhammers) and german language. Couldn't pick out any melody or rhythm anywhere a bit too experimental for me
most of this felt like I was just immersing myself into the tonal intricacies of my neighborhood construction zone, but I appreciate what was trying to be done here with industrial "rock". I actually liked the title track.
I really really.enjoyed this and was shocked to see the release date. The fact that so many interesting textures and industrial sounds were created during the early days of integrating computers into music is fascinating
I'm not pretentious enough to pretend that this is something I'd regularly listen to, but I found it much more interesting and engaging than I expected given everything else. It's like the backing tracks on a Tom Waits album. Title track was actually dope as hell. There's more interesting in this album than in plenty of much more listenable albums, which makes this kinda hard to rate. Was gonna take off some points for how long it is, but looking it up, it looks like the original release is shorter. Still don't think I can get to four, so three is where it lands.
I came in fully aware that this was going to be German industrial experimental noise that is music in theory only. I came away fully aware that this was going to be German industrial experimental noise that is music in theory only - and while not good, I'd certainly say it is not bad.
I'm pretty open minded when it comes to music, but this was virtually unlistenable. There was no discernable melody throughout the entire album, just...noises. Sounded like a Hitler rally over heavy, repetitive drum banging and random sounds (drills, metal clangs). Not one track actually sounded like a song in any sense. I had Coldplay yesterday (who I'm not a fan of) and I'd take a thousand Coldplay over this. If I could rate 0 stars I would.
I don’t get it. The music feels like what you would get it you let kids play with the things they find in a Home Depot. With German sung/spoken over it.
This reminds me of an SNL skit with Mike Meyer as a German talk show host Dieter. This would be a perfect background music for the Sprockets show.
Not at all who I was ever expecting to see on this list. Was familiar with, and this album sounded what I expected. I can listen to it sporadically, but I could never deep dive or listen to them endlessly, would probably never request it anywhere unless trying to troll someone. But as someone who really enjoys industrial music, I appreciate it and like it as background noise
I don't know what everyone is complaining about. This is as musical as some movie scores and I like it.
Was zum Teufel…
This is absolutely mad and unique for its time. Although it's an early industrial album sonically, I'd also regard it as punk in the sense of it having that DIY "fuck you, we'll convey our message however we want" attitude. And boy, did they. Who else was making anything as abrasive and unnerving as this with power tools, metal plates and other shit they found in the local scrap heap, whilst tying it together into something which oddly flows together seamlessly against the odds? You perhaps had Cabaret Voltaire, Clock DVA, SPK and Test Dept occupying similar spaces in terms of releasing overwhelming, challenging music with unconventional instruments, although Kollaps took the idea to a whole different level. Einstürzende Neubauten went on to do even better things IMO, but Kollaps deserves to be acknowledged here nonetheless. I've got Halber Mensch, Hans der Lüge and Silence is Sexy in my collection, any of which would have also been more than justified inclusions in this list by taking the experimentation apparent here into different, but equally thrilling directions. Kollaps is, however, on my wishlist.
When I first started this journey, this was the lowest rated album in the generator(it's the second lowest rated album now). While the album sounds like a group of teenagers bashing objects in stores with Hitler-esque voices in the background, there is also nothing else like it(or is there?). In all seriousness, I did enjoy two tracks, and there were some fun industrial beats scattered throughout this hot mess. Now, does it deserve to have over *half* of its ratings at a one-star? Personally, I think not Yesterday, I had "Junkyard" by The Birthday Party. It's been a wild weekend. Favorite Track: "Sehnsuct".
no
This is sounds, not music.
> Trouser Press described Kollaps as "one of the most shocking visions ever committed to vinyl." Yeah, sounds about right. Here's a story: There's an infamous legend about a performance of controversial composter Steve Reich's minimalist work 'Four Organs'. The 16-minute track, an extension of Reich's boundary-pushing experiments with (then-novel) synthetic music and atonal harmonies, features a quartet of electronic organs accompanied by a single, unyielding maraca. It's a wall of droning noise, slowly building layer-upon-layer of extended notes in an often bewildering and highly unusual arrangement. It was the tail-end of the Swingin' Sixties, and Reich was pushing the boundaries of classical chamber-hall music the same way that bands like The Grateful Dead, The Velvet Underground and Captain Beefheart were doing in the rock/band scene during the same era. Jazz, of course, had been doing so for even longer. So the tale goes, there was one particular 1973 performance of 'Four Organs' at the prestigious New York Carnegie Hall where it went weird. This wasn't the first time the piece had been met with mixed reception, but this show is said to have been particularly contentious. There was "yells for the music to stop, mixed with applause to hasten the end of the piece... one woman walked down the aisle and repeatedly banged her head on the front of the stage, wailing 'Stop, stop, I confess.'" Such is often the fate of the avant-garde. It's really no secret that Kollaps isn't the kind of album you throw on during polite company or at the work Christmas party. It's unapologetically and unabashedly harsh and abrasive. It's the sonic equivalent of banging rusty pots and pans together while running a jackhammer; sometimes it's literally this. It's crude, and unrefined, and so raw you can still hear the cow mooing. The songs often end abruptly, or have inexplicable long stretches of silence. It's intentionally provocative with titles like 'Schiess Euch Ins Blut' (Shit In Your Blood), which sounds like a man trying to pass a kidney stone at a busy construction site. it's nihilistic and angry and all that true-punk chaotic industrial noise that could really only exist like this in its era, anti-commercial and unconcerned with lofty concepts like 'prestige' or 'vision'. So by all accounts, the album achieves with an impressive clarity exactly what it's set out to do. It's just what it's trying to do is weird and scary and ugly. But it's *this* kind of thing that going through this list is made for. What drives a Steve Reich, or a Milton Babbitt, or a Einstürzende Neubauten to do what they do? Maybe these people are the alchemists of music, drawn to boundary-testing like moths to the flame, doomed to failure and yet persisting in spite of it. Kollaps is a difficult album to capture, because the emotion it evokes in me is primarily just... disgust. This is not a common emotion we look to art to achieve, and yet it's there. This album gives that feeling you get when looking at something by H.G. Giger or Cruelty Squad: dread and fear. I remember the emotion far more than the sound of any particular song, which is lacking the usual milestones we use to tether ourselves to reality. It recontextualizes itself as it runs, never letting you rest, and it's a dizzying effect. And in doing so, ironically, it leaves a mental impression far deeper than the easy-to-follow pop music that it was surrounded by. I'm really not trying to be a pretentious contrarian here, because I can tell this is the kind of thing that'll turn most people off. I'm not saying it's some misunderstood masterpiece or anything (I enjoy most modern music as much as anybody else). I do believe, wholeheartedly, that this is not good music and I didn't actually like listening to it. But this thing really grabbed me in a way that disturbed me yet left me with plenty to think about, and I mean that totally sincerely. I like that it tried something profoundly different, even if it mostly failed, and those little glimpses of something genuinely unique were worth the squeeze. Perhaps in the end, Kollaps is musical Surströmming. It won't have me banging my head on the stage, or banging my head up and down, but at least it's willing to do things so interesting that I don't really understand them. And that means it's worth chewing on afterwards, which is more than you can say about most radio music.
ah... voor zulke platen luister je naar de 1001... iets dat grenzen aftast (en overschrijdt)... iets dat mooi is door zijn lelijkheid... geen plaat om je dansvloer mee te vullen (daarvoor staan er genoeg platen van dertien in een dozijn in deze lijst)... verdiende voor mij een dikke vier, maar om hem wat hoger te krijgen geeft ik een 5
Álbum louco do caralho, experimental. 5/10
O mein got, du hast uberfokkenkillenmelten meine ears, dude. Nicht so gut. Nein out of ten.
This was way more interesting than what other reviews suggest. I totally understand why this is such a low-rated album, since its industrial sounds are not particularly easy to digest. However, I did enjoy it quite a bit. It sort of reminds me of what Nine Inch Nails would have sounded like in the early '90s if Trent had decided to take out the rock instruments. However, I must admit that this album drags on for way too long. A two-star rating seems adequate for my book.
I imagine if I had a fever dream where I was walking through actual Hell, trying every door in a panic, this would be the soundtrack. Maybe that's your thing, but I like actual music. This is stressing me out... I feel like I can SEE this album as it plays, like a Halloween Horror Nights haunted house walkthrough. Sure, it would make a perfect soundtrack for a hell house, but as a listenable album? No. Giving it 2 instead of 1, just because I can so vividly SEE the horror this shit would be backing...
One of the rare albums where you can say “that’s not music, it’s just noise” without sounding like an old fart because that’s what they were going for. Some tracks might even feature literal old farts. It was interesting as a one-off, but can’t see this one turning up in my Spotify wrapped.
Is this thing weird, experimental, disorienting and abrasive? Yes. Is it innovative, shocking, different and artful? Definitely. Is it better than listening to yet another jangly 60s album on this list? Absolutely. I will listen to something as unique as this any day. It also convenient material for when you want to weird someone out with a playlist, or shut down a party.
Just noise for the sake of noise. I'd rather go yell at clouds
A jackhammer, in fact, is not a musical instrument
what the fuck is this
Kollaps жоп местных слушателей. Без бонусных треков, которые идут с альбомом с 2003-его ре-релиза, это просто пиздец мастеркласс, мать и отец, всего индастриал музона, и это очень и очень явно слышно. Это даже не смешно, насколько крепко Трент Резнор очевидно дрочил на эту музыку, когда писал свои Хейт Машин. То же самое с Джирой. То же самое с Раммштайн. Все которые имеют невъебенные рейтинги. ЛОК ЗЕ ФАК ИН! А КАК ЖЕ УВАЖЕНИЕ К СТАРШИМ? Лучшая песня - Kollaps.
what the hell
désolée mais non. je comprends le fait de vouloir avoir une variété de sonorités dans la liste d’albums (et encore jusqu’ici la variété ne s’étend pas a tous les styles/origines de musique mais soit), mais bon. si je voulais écouter ce genre de musique je vais me poser en face du chantier le plus proche quoi. DNF par respect pour mon ouïe.
I didn't hate this. Yes, it's unpleasant, but it's supposed to be. 2.5/5.0: Mixed
like asmr recorded at a german construction site. lots of beating and banging and some shouting in german. this isnt nearly as bad as people make it out to be. theres lot of tension created by the various sounds but underneath there is a steady mechanical groove that drives the songs forward. i will admit my view is influenced by the bonus tracks on the end of version i heard. the bonus tracks have a lot of similar ideas but are more akin to what to what someone would expect from an album of music. ultimately id rather listen to this over another boring post punk, folk, or britpop album by an artist no one has talked about in 40 years.
I don't even know what to say. I think this band achieved exactly what they set out to achieve in this album, and its probably a masterpiece according to somebody out there. Yet it was largely a thoroughly unpleasant listening experience, with some mediocre highs and consistent lows. I didn't enjoy the drilling noises to say the least. But sometimes it was pretty enjoyable. I'm going to stretch and give this a 3 even though I'll never listen to again. It's definitely something quite unique compared to everything else I've listened to and I appreciate that. Uniqueness is cool.
Nope
Das crazy.
Not really into goth EDM but yeah it's pretty good
I really wish this one didn't come in my ears. Absolutely horrendous, discordant rubbish.
I wasn't disgusted by it. However it is a really hard listen.
I tried to find some redeeming features, I really did. There were moments where I thought I understood it, the beat of industrial machinery. And then I'd be out of it again. I think I could probably listen to a single track and get along ok with it, but a whole album is hard going. I think the only reason I'd revisit this album is to annoy someone else.
i though the first tracks were intros and i thought it would be industrial techno untill i realised this is it... Peak "weird for the sake of being wierd" If you alienate the listener you can't be profound in my opinion. sure, music can be more hard to get into but it should at least try to invite a listener to try and understand you subcontext instead of having to write it so people can quote it from wikipedia and sound smart. this just sounds like an angry german screaming in a factory. Wierdly enough i recognized their logo but never heard any music i guess this album explains it. This "band" don't desrve the logo.
Upsetting
Intense industrial influences that make it a good listen
Ich weiß nicht, was ich lustiger finde: Die Titel, dass es anscheinend Leute gibt, die das wirklich so als ihre Musik hören oder dass das für Kritiker typisch deutsche Musik ist. Keine Ahnung, es ist lustig, also kriegt es einen Stern extra.
Strange industrial sounding composition. Not sure if I would really call it music since it is very different. It's interesting what they were able to put together and I suppose it is nice to explore the medium and all that but I didn't really like it very much. It just seemed annoying like someone jackhammering while you are trying to read.
If your mum was the Berlin Wall and your dad was Hitler, how would you please the masses? Einstürzende Neubaten are loved by many bands I love, but I’ve never listened to them: while I liked the idea - bashing bits of metal, electric drills etc - I figured the concept would be more enjoyable than the music. I was wrong; they’re really fun! A fine example of minting a form and perfecting it on first try. The irony in titles “U-Haft-Muzak” is hammer-subtle, but feels like a mask for discovering delight in a new, playful din. It’s composed, sometimes dramatic, sometimes aggressive, occasionally silly, but always thought-out. There’s a mode of obsessiveness here that I associate with German music, dedication to an idea. “Jet’m” frogmarches the demigod of sleaze under the Arc de Triomphe and I’d wager Gainsbourg savoured it. If it’s not a commentary on Fascism I’ll eat my jackboot. Almost as enjoyable are the reviews on this site. Banging!
It's good to hear something different on here. Didn't do much for me but refreshing nonetheless.
The most amazing thing I’ve ever heard makes me want to work in a German factory. transcended my life, I will never be the same after this experience. This isn’t music it’s a 56 minute journey and your shoes are made of razor blades.
Some good background music for a haunted house on here. This doesn’t deserve a lower rating than that Scottish folk psychedelic collective BS album I heard the other day. Don’t get me wrong, this is shite, but I didn’t skip 1 track. This has actually got some hilarious stuff on it.
Holy crap that was hard to get through. What a pile of shit.
I'm not sure how this ended up on the list, because it doesn't really seem to be music for much of the 55 tediously protracted minutes. This is actually the first album on the list that I refused to finish because it's just such horrible noise. This is the kind of thing preteen edge lords listen to in order to make people like them even less... But even they don't enjoy it.
I don’t think I get it guys
Music for a vampire rave. Definitely "mood music" - gotta catch the vibe as it comes. But when it does, nothing scratches the itch like it. (It also stresses my cats out to play too much of it at once.) Formative for a beloved genre, but not one I revisit often.
Not sure this is for me. Understand the value and influence especially on someone like Nine Inch Nails. But a bit much for me. Struggle to listen to more than a couple of tracks
No
Wow that was painful! Hitler on a building site!
dosta bolje od dosta albuma koje sam morao preslušat... sve u svemu zanimljivo, ima fora dijelova na početku, al postane istrošeno i naporno u drugoj polovici. ipak zaslužilo trojku, a ne ovako užasne ocjene
Tanz Debil (Debility Dance) 1.7 Steh auf Berlin (Wake Up Berlin) 1 Negativ Nein (Negative No) 0.5 U-Haft-Muzak (Detention Muzak) 0.2 Draußen ist Feindlich (Outside is Hostile) 0.3 Schmerzen Hören (Hören mit Schmerzen) (Hearing Pain (Listen with Pain)) 0.3 Jet'm 0.4 Kollaps (Collapse) 0.6 Sehnsucht (Desire) 0.1 Vorm Krieg (Before the War) 0.3 Hirnsäge (Brainsaw) 0.4 Abstieg & Zerfall (Descent & Decay) 0.2 Helga 0.1 Schieß Euch Ins Blut (Shoot Yourself in the Blood) 0 Negativ Nein" (live) 0.3 Rohrbombe" (Pipe Bomb) 0.1 Futuristischer Dub (Futuristic Dub) 0.1 Sado-Masodub (Sadomasochistic Dub) 0.2 Liebesdub (Love Dub) 0.1 Spionagedub (Espionage Dub) 0 Mikrobendub (Microbes Dub) 0 Gastarbeiterdub (Guest Worker Dub) 0.1 Rivieradub 0 Lünebest 0 Score: 0.304347826
Not as unlistenable as I was expecting but I still did not enjoy this
Well at least not as ??????? as duckstab
Even if I understood what was being sung I don't think this was for me. 1.5
Nope. Awful. Made it through 2 minutes of the first track, skipped to track 2, listened to about 1 more minute. That ain't music. Fucking dire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhe3vSe-mmw
Ok
Je vais l'avouer: j'ai pas été capable de finir l'album. J'avais beaucoup d'appréhension, considérant la note désastreuse et les tonnes de commentaires négatif. Mais, parmi cette marrée puante se trouve les justiciers des arts undergrounds (dont toi, Cyril (je sais que tu lis TOUTES mes reviews avec passion)) qui défendent avec véhémence la qualité de cette musique difficile d'approche. Ça m'a motivé à l'écouter d'une autre oreille, l'approcher plus comme une installation artistique dans un musée d'art comptemporain. Un musée d'art comptemporain de l'enfer, plutôt. Si le but premier de l'album est de te sentir comme un enfant de six ans gelé au quaalude travaillant dans une aciérie allemande au 19e siècle, c'est réussi haut la main. Je suis présentement en train de reprendre où j'en étais hier, pis la vibe est vraiment pas bonne, j'ai l'impression que quelque chose de mal va m'arriver à tout moment. J'ai de la misère à croire que quelqu'un aime le processus d'écoute de cet album-là, j'imagine que c'est la même crowd qui raffole des documentaire hyper oppressant sur les ravages de la guerre et de la famine dans les pays du tiers monde. En tout cas, ça m'a fait vivre quelque chose, comparativement à la moitié de ce que j'ai écouté de cette liste, donc ça mérite au moins une note de passage. Par contre, plus jamais j'y retouche
That type of music is not my preference.
Haven’t really listened much to this band but this was interesting .Experimental for sure but good .
Quite on the opposite end of the spectrum compared to the smooth jazzy soul by Sade that was on the list before this. This is brutal stuff. Sounds like back alley junkie version of Kraftwerk where machines are replaced by tools and metal cans. This is bit heavy album to listen to, but undoubtedly would have been an great live experience when it was released. I've seen Neubauten live couple of times in the later years and edges are bit softer nowdays, but the spirit of doing things the neubauten way are still there. Some stars for the music on this album and some for the general respect for this band
Listening to this album in the middle of a workday probably won't do it justice. I suspect the only time I'd enjoy listening to it would be when I'm a little drunk.
In the beginning it was interesting, but after few songs it went too weird.
This is a band that my goth oriented friends used to listen to a lot, but I've never really sat down and listened to myself. While industrial is a familiar genre, I prefer mine with a dash of music and less art. Neither Throbbing Gristle, Cabaret Voltaire nor Nitzer Ebb were to my liking and sadly now I can add Neubauten to that list as well. I'm more of a Godflesh, G.G.F.H and Author & Punisher type of a guy.
Awful. It's stuff like this that makes me think that the author wants me to quit this project.
Scheisseplatte
When I'm at the office, I love listening to the album of the day. This time, it was an album that broadens your perspective on what music can be. For that reason alone, it's more than deserved to be on this list.
turned it off truly unlistenably strange. appreciate what they were trying to do that
Kollaps is not my cup of tea. But, you have to admit that it is better than starting two world wars.
the universe saw me write "pavement is great but it gives me a headache" and then went "is that so? interesting." have to agree with others that, on the merits of this being a unique listening experience, this is a worthwhile album, but i didn't really find much that was sonically pleasing here. of the stuff i did like, it was pretty ephemeral: there were fragments of tunes or sections that made me think "oh, this isn't so bad," but just as soon as these fragments materialized they vanished and it was back to screaming (which, i found it hilarious for the song to juke me out like that. you thought???? i thought, indeed). no surprise that nothing here ended up being saved, but hey - it was interesting, i laughed a few times, and i had something to talk / think about. feel pretty positive about this album even though it's at two stars for me.
Wow hate this.
They call this music?
I appreciate the creativity and influence on industrial music, but I would be lying if I said I liked it one bit. In the final track there’s like a second of silence, I caught myself thinking “oh thank god it’s over”, but then they banged on metal pipes for 30 more seconds
Well, I am not a fan of German industrial music, I understand that it is appropriate to include in a list like this. With that being said, I did not mind listening to this, but I get both sides of this debate in terms of noise versus cutting edge Music.
2/10
My reason for giving this five stars is I'm glad I listened to Einstruzende Neubauten before I die which is the objective of this list. They forged a path for dozens of artists that I love and I think what they did was important for music. My only real personal gripes relate to either the recording quality or mastering I'm not really sure. I listened with lower-end headphones just streaming on spotify but I'm not sure the problem lied there. I wish it had been captured at a higher fidelity at the time.
Actually found this quite fun. It's not especially... musical but entertainment is worth something
Tough album to get through. Sounds like the music in a mixed media art installation. Some of the sounds are really interesting -- industrial or other odd sounds with a heavy dose of distortion and reverb. I think these guys could do a good job as sound designers for films in the sci fi or horror genres. Anyhow, I have no intent to ever listen to this again.
Being that this was made it '81, I feel like there is a lot of innovation going on here. It's darker and more evocative than a lot of what's been on this list and only occasionally devolves into what should be considered an "industrial audio recording" instead of "music." Still, while I will be unlikely to revisit it, I think its unlikely we get bands like NIN and Ministry without going through this first.
Definitely get how NIN might have spawned out of something like this, but the repeated use of power tools as instruments kept this from being listenable.
Baustelle, Dischingen, Deutschland. Ja, schon arg bizarr.
Et av tidenes beste bandnavn. Utvilsomt viktig & innflytelsesrikt, intellektuelt & experimentelt, rått & brutalt, men kunne med fordel hatt litt mer driv til tider. Kollaps og Abstieg & Zerfall er nok høydepunktene, det får litt mer hypnotiserende, motorisk urkraft i seg; kan trekke en ganske tydelig strek derfra til feks. noe på Soundtracks for the Blind. Skiva gikk også opp en karakter da jeg fant ut at streaming-versjonen hadde blitt sydd sammen med en demo av lydexperiementer. Hater når det skjer.
Foretrekker nok de senere EN-platene. Dette albumet låter litt som umotivert plingplong for meg (selv om den sikkert er veldig motivert), og høres dessuten litt blodfattig ut. Selv om blodfattig i denne sammenhengen virker å være bevisst stilvalg. Plata glimter til iblant, særlig på tittelsporet.
Endelig litt støy! Og ikke bare støy, men forunderlige lyder og arrangementer også! Jeg må ha utropstegn etter hver setning!
There were some very great diamonds in the (very) rough on this album. It would be very hard for me to go back to it, but I loved having something different on the list
Danny Music! Great early example of where techno is gonna go. Really cool soundscapes come and go. I'm probably not gonna have it on at a party. Glad I've listened to it. Stars reflect 'I wanna listen to this again and go deep on it' Stars do not reflect 'this has artistic value' Because this has a ton of artistic value. And the kick drums sound dope.
negative nein
Sounds like a 3-hour visit to a crazy evil East German dentist, and about as much fun. That said, not entirely without artistic merit so 1.6
Oh, that's it? THAT'S the infamous Kollaps? Used to be lowest rated album on the list Kollaps? German dudes making random noise by smashing metal plates together Kollaps? That's all there is to it? I mean I enjoyed it, but I'm *almost* tempted to give a low rating just for being underwhelmed. This is far from the most extreme experimental music I've heard, if you guys can't even handle this then I really don't know what to tell you.
W. T. F. I give 1 star, but that is for ME for sticking through this nonsense. Now I see why this sits at the bottom of the list...
i respect it and i’m glad i listened to it but this type of music just isn’t really for me
Isso que é experimentalismo.Brutalismo na música ou algo do tipo. Difícil escutar, provavelmente é a experiência que queriam passar. Eu só não queria vivencia-la. TRN Medusa.
I will never listen to this shit again, but as a one-off it was bloody hilarious. I loved it. Those crazy Germans...
I respect the noise, but not enough to actually listen to it.
Oof
I can’t believe someone had enough conviction and confidence to record this and then put it out for the world to hear. Utterly unlistenable. Like having a drill bit carve into my eardrum. I might have preferred the drill to sitting through this record. 1/10
Would rate this lower if I could.
I know this one has its cult following and historical importance, but I just couldn’t get there with it. Kollaps feels more like an endurance test than a record I’d ever want to revisit. I respect the boundary-pushing and the influence it had on industrial and experimental music, but for me it was mostly grating noise without much payoff. I guess I’m supposed to admire it, but I just don’t enjoy listening to it. Sorry, this is a rare 1-star for me.
Industrial shocker
For me not enjoyable to listen to at all.
I LOVE ABSTRACT NOISE MUSIC RAAAAAAAAAAA
wtf is this
This is the worst thing I have heard.
No.
Fucking epic hoover song
It should be on the list so it's not a 1.
Noooooo thank you
Man, this was just not any good. This album is just noise, and not even enjoyable noise. Every once and a while, an album appears that is clearly only on the list because it was experimental for its time and maybe influential to it's subgenre. I understand why that is considered a must-listen; this isn't a "1001 BEST albums" list, after all. But holy moly was this album a slog.
This was just noise to me. It’s like they attempted to see if they could put out an album with no music and see if people would listen to it. Turns out it would up on the 1001 albums to listen to before you die. Not sure if anyone needs to hear this before they die.
Это интересно, но ААААААА МОИ УШИ
A big 'ol Fuck You to whoever made me listen to this and ruin my day Best Song: N/A Rating: 0/10 Stars: 1
Excruciatingly terrible.
was not expecting to have an industrial / noise album on this list. honestly pretty damn good i was so confused at first but it grew on me quick. not saying it's amazing but there were some songs in there i really enjoyed. 6/10
Not great, Faust and Can did this type of music a lot better than this. It’s a one from me
I get why people hate it. I don't, but I don't love it either.
Sometimes there's a fine line between "experimental" and "trash"
awful
No idea who this is. Lets see how we go. From the opener, sounds german and industrial. If it is like this the whole way i might struggle. Track 5 of 23 and yeah can confirm, this seems to to be it. Perhaps in 1981 it was pretty revolutionary, but Zappa played a bicycle on TV in 63 with more style than this. The Birthday Party shouted in a similar style sometime through the 70’s. Was it really that revolutionary? Early techno? Surely not. Electronic music has been around much longer, at least the 1920’s (theremin anyone). Jet’m best track for vague recognisability? Is the joke on me and these are all covers and i just am not musical enough to recognise them? Highly possible. Title track my favorite so far, if i had to pick one. I broke one if my rules and looked up the band before finishing the record. Ive been trying to get my own thoughts down before seeking validation or ideas elsewhere. Anyway i’m a bit bored by this and thought id look them up to see what might have been revolutionary about this first album. My poor attention span didnt het past the firat fact I saw, the singer is Blixa Bargeld. Apparently The Borthday Party saw him on TV on Germany shouting like them and he ended ip a fou di g member of the bad seeds. On his wiki theres a quote about this band where he essentially says he couldnt afford drums, piano, etc but he wanted to make music. That i can celebrate and admire. The album is not for me but more power to him for having the courage and inventiveness. The end tracks atart to be quite hypnotic African tribal drum like but if i wanted that i’d listen to the much more enthralling early 70’s album Niagara by the band Niagara (also German origins).
Points for experimenting and turning an idea of music upside down, but this album is really headache-inducing.
Takes a little getting used to but I mostly came around by the second half, when they softened it a little and were less likely to have the dude screaming shit in German over the top of it. First half probably more authentic but tough to listen to My enjoyment of this was more a one but I’ll toss it a star for being weird as hell. Sado-Masodub is a low key banger
If enough this are hit then at some point it will resonate. Stuck with this through gritted teeth with some reward. As the tracks went on the very angular noise gave way to something more palatable. Nevertheless not something to revisit.
This was one of the most surprising albums I've heard, in a bad way. This was genuinely difficult to listen to, arguably some of the worst music I've heard. Every time I started to get into the rhythm of the music, it was torn away and replaced with the most grating, cringing sounds possible. Like nails on chalkboard, forks on plates, and general Bad Sounds. I feel bad for anything else I gave 1 star because those poor albums shouldn't be compared to this shit.
No
hated this, absolutely terrible
It's like the worst parts of a Velvet Underground album. Yes, am I a square for not getting this? Probably. This is too discordant and experimental for my tastes. The times it goes to a full song there's promise, but then the album dips into Halloween noise effects. Top tracks: "Tanz Debil," "Kollaps"
Lol. No.
and here we go --Tanz Debil...yup, it's different --Steh Auf Berlin...Ow, my teeth. Once I settled in, I could sort of groove to it --Negativ Nein...okay, I kind of hear Reznor in this. Not as fun as NIN but it's there --U-Haft-Muzak...jawohl! Ich habe Muzak! --Draussen ist Feindlich...ambient oddness with a scary lady voice in the mix --Schmerzen Hoeren...you can't scare me away, Blixa! I'm listening to all of it! --Jet'm...a synth interlude? gives my ears a chance to rest --Kollaps...is that a fairly standard guitar chug? Bargeld can certainly create an atmosphere --Sehnsucht...another track that sounds like an actual song. it's short --Vorm Krieg...interlude --Hirnsaege...we return to the found-objects-as-instruments part of our tour --Abstieg and Zerfall..."and"? why not "und"? this is madness! weird song, too --Helga...wat? --Schiess Euch Ins Blut...could be a track on The Wall --Rohrbombe...not a bad beat. that's all it is --Futuristischer Dub...short ambient stuff --Sado-Masodub...there's a cool bass sound hidden in here. not sure if it's an actual bass. PVC pipe? --Liebesdub...sick beatz --Spionagedub...okay, I like these sounds. Probably sampled somewhere by someone important --Mikrobendub...meh --Gastarbeiterdub...what weird dreamspace did I just walk into? Oh, it's the dentist's office --Rivieradub...I've almost defeated you, Bargeld! --Luenebest...sounds like children rhythmically slamming their school supplies onto the gymnasium floor. And with that, it is done
This is weird and challenging. Occasionally interesting.
Like most couldn’t make it through the album But I did appreciate the few songs I tried out Loud abrasive and unapologetic….precursors to a lot of bands I liked in the 90s
Disturbing and headache-inducing but not entirely bad
The list needs more weird and different stuff
I’m sorry you’re German. I’m sure that must be awful. I can’t imagine opening one’s eyes for the first time and immediately having a bratwurst shoved in your mouth and looking up to see your mother’s factory owner staring down at you, deem you inferior, and scream “YOU’RE GERMAN!!!” in that weird yelly language. No one should have to go through that. But you need to try to make something positive from that, not punish the rest of the world for your suffering. Be like that luftballoons girl. Great art can come from misfortune. Even something as terrible as being German.
industrial rage noise. idk
Me imagino escuchándolo en mi casa a través del sistema de sonido y con mi familia preguntándose primero quién le puso un micrófono al sitio de construcción vecino y, luego, gritando en desesperación porque los gritos en alemán vienen desde DENTRO de la casa. ¿quién invocó accidentalmente el espectro de Hitler? ¿por qué hay un montón de borrachos alemanes peleando a través del sistema de sonido? Todas preguntas válidas después de escuchar un par de canciones de EN. En todo caso, tengo un soft spot por el krautrock y la experimentación alemana. No es un disco, sino una experiencia.
A little too much.
Hard to listen to. Anxiety inducing. Shit.
Perfect for any occasion. Great accompaniment to a quiet evening reading or a hard working day in a factory. Particularly love Negativ Nein and Absteig and Zerfall!
Not my jam but I do appreciate the creativity
Demo hammers. Breaking glass. Drumming on a steel garbage can. Tiger torch. Fun little scavenger hunt of job site noises
If all your kitchen appliances and power tools had a jam……it would sound better than this. Hard pass.
Indigesto mas fui até o fim
Someone must love this, but that someone is not me!
If this is music it tries really hard to not be music. If this is not music it tries hard to be music. I'll give this a 2 because at least it is uniquely whatever the hell it is
I was really looking forward to this one, but I am kind of disappointed. I really wish they took it further and added more power tools. Most of the songs are just a single drum and a guy moaning. I was expecting super harsh noise with a jack hammer. This is definitely a unique and influential album, but it is kind of a boring listen. High 3.
Outstanding. But a bit much
I don't think I understand it.
I think I understand what they were trying to prove but I think they're wrong and I didn't really enjoy the argument much.
I did not like this
This should've been Cruelty Squad's soundtrack
Gesundheit! But can you dance to it?
Very industrial. Feels early. A little bit too screamy for me but interesting still. I did not finish this album
This was crazy.
this is pretty much the exact kind of thing i was micspamming on garry's mod servers when I was 12 Honestly, the first half of this sucks. No shit. It's just a German retard with a power drill rubbing a cheese grater against the mic. Once you get past the nonsense at the start, there's actually something arguably interesting to listen to here. Unfortunately the start is so fucking shit that it doesn't save this from a low rating. Though given that this is the 2nd lowest album on the site (it was 1st when I started), a 2 is a generous rating here. Industrial music isn't music. It's just an excuse for having no talent. Don't come @ me.
78 - Kollaps (Einsturzende Neubuaten) *** I feel insane for rating this so high but the absurd amount of entertainment I got out of this has to be worth something. Sounding like something between your work foreman screaming at you on a drill site in Dresden (wouldn’t be the only reports of drilling in that city according to this website) and what you would get ordering a vinyl of The Downward Spiral off of Aliexpress. Kollaps’ usage of industrial sound to its rawest extent was for me, enjoyable experimental. Between all of the screaming and ‘instruments’ at play here there is what feels like an imitation or semblance of music amidst the sharp edges of it all, something which I think had to be an inspiration to some more traditionally informed but open-minded artists to work with (Pretty Hate Machine came out just shy of a decade after this). The chaos on display is not going to be something I’ll ever slot into a playlist any time soon, but it’s also something I can’t see myself forgetting about and certainly a welcome distraction from a lot of the downright boring and mediocre albums that paraded their way onto this list. Track #3 Negativ Nein was my favourite because it reminded me of the toilet music in Cruelty Squad
People who say this sounds like a drill in a metal bucket are wrong, it’s clearly a hammer drill going into concrete.
Interesting tinny drums with a low thumping rhythmic kick drum. The repetition induces an unnerving and eerie trance. There's a specific type of autistic that enjoys this stuff. It scratches an itch that is hard to describe. The title track on this thing is the stand out. Addictive stringy plucky guitars, a heavy kick drum accompanied by the further stings and stabs of a second guitar. 8/10
Wow nothing says industrial music quite like literal fucking construction equipment in my ears. Honest to God more albums just need to have LOUD AS FUCK POWER TOOLS interspersed in them (shoutout U-Haft-Muzak). These noises are included not for any particular reason other than to fuck with people like how Citizen Kane has that screaming parrot in it to wake up anyone who may have fallen asleep. One of the songs is literally called HEARING PAIN (LISTEN WITH PAIN) and it was the part of the album where I thought I was going to have a nosebleed. Shoutout to the scream at the end of Negativ Nein, that shit rocked. After listening to this: I get it, after so many nothing albums that elicited no reaction from me whatsoever, I get it. This is *something*. It is undeniably shit. This is an abandoned Salvation Army shop that was burned down. But in sifting through the charred wreckage, amongst the debris you can find some nifty things that you can take with you. That's exactly how I see this album. You can see this as the progenitor DNA for a lot of musical acts that came after it. It's not good music, and frankly it gets corny when it attempts to do something that is approaching listenable music. If I had heard this at 15 I would be playing this over voice chat on Garry's Mod. God bless this retarded album. I am conflicted in giving this a positive score though, it's influential and fucking hilarious but doesn't mean I will be giving this a spin regularly. I enjoyed this far more than Throbbing Gristle and Public Image Limited, maybe it's the Croatian half of me giving these guys a free pass for being German or it's my Serbian side that makes me a masochist. It does make me sad that I no longer have this to look forward to on this list anymore. It sat in the lowest rated section of this website like a portent of doom or more accurately like a cartoon anvil on a wire. Listening to this was objectively enjoyable but now that it's over what else is there to look forward to? Kid Rock? Everything else is small fry compared to these German psychos. I certainly won't forget this anytime soon, for better or worse. Highlights: Kollaps
Not bad for background music but in no rush for a second go.
1.5/10
Choose one: a) This makes Kraftwerk sound like the Dave Matthews Band. b) This makes Swans sound like the B-52s. c) This makes Throbbing Gristle sound like Mariah Carey. d) This makes a handful of silverware in a garbage disposal sound like Mozart. e) All of the above When you have completed the test, give your answer sheet to the proctor and return to your seat. Scream your full name as loudly as possible and do not stop until dismissed by the proctor. Any stoppage in screaming will result in automatic failure of the test. You have four hours to complete the test.
This sounds like the ur-text for Nine Inch Nails, but that makes it more "interesting" than "listenable"
listened to about half of the album. Interesting but not my typical genre
I didn't understand anything about Kollaps. It's one of the worst albums I've heard as part of this project, and it came as no surprise to me that it's currently #2 of the lowest ranked albums. I haven't yet heard the #1 worst album, but I shudder to think how awful that album would be to my ears after this one. This album had me questioning people's life choices. Why would a chainsaw be used? Why was there random screaming, or the singing disguised as shouting? Why did it sound like an actual drill was being used, or pots banging together? Why was there so much distorted feedback? And as for "Sehnsucht," I too can press the same key on a piano for two minutes, but that doesn't mean I should put that in a song. Nein, Einstürzende Neubauten. Nein.
God, this was truly awful. There is no wonder in my mind why this album is one of the lowest ranked in the project. An hour roughly felt like an eternity dealing with this absolute noise. Who could have possibly known that the random clanging together of found objects would not make for a pleasant listening experience? Well, we know now for sure, thanks to this album.
Sound effects for Halloween. Not music
Nie
When I saw this album on the list I was like "this is going to be unlistenable experimental music isn't it" 100 percent An assault to the senses, I want to start a petition to get this banned and added to the Geneva convention
Pretty much loved the last 6 tracks (all the dubs). There were one or two tracks that got a little screamy but not enough to justify this album having the worst rating of 1001+ albums on here. C'mon, everyone.
some enjoyable moments off an album i never would have picked up outside of this exercise, unfortunately surrounded by some of the most annoying to hear nonsense on the list so far. if i can squint i can see some weird lil fellas making their version of a joyous noise, which is respectable, but not necessarily something i want to hear.
Hey, this wasn't nearly as bad as its position on the global rankings suggested. It's currently below Trout Mask Replica, that Kid Rock album, and Locust Abortion Technician, for crying out loud. Everyone is lucky that I didn't find this back when I was a regular at a goth club where the Friday night DJ had a crush on me because we all would have been getting way industrial and dancing to jackhammer noises. All jokes aside, I found a handful of the tracks difficult to listen to, but the majority were bizarre (interesting, positive) and as far as I could tell, none of them involved pressing a clarinet, oboe, or saxophone to its absolute limits.
well this was... interesting to say the least i started losing my sanity a little bit halfway through when I thought I was listening to an ad for powertools rather than an actual album
I don't hate this, I'm just not in the right space for it. Sonic creations like this are best consumed by fit, young men who feel like they have all the time in the world.
I tried. I listened to every song, but it was just a very difficult experience. German experimental industrial is just not my thing. It sounded like a construction site in hell.
Herrie
Noopeeee wat een herrie
I can’t believe this is the lowest rated album. This is epic.
First one I didn't listen to all the way through, stopped after the second "song". Wtf is that??
yeah that's a no from me
This is a fascinating album. This is clearly not everyone's taste, and it's not exactly easy listening, but it's not chaos and all loud noises either. This is not an album I want to listen to often (or ever again), but I'm glad I did listen through it before I die.
Bunch of noise
This album definitely accomplished what it wanted to, but I just didn’t enjoy it. I love weird stuff in music, and this album was very weird and definitely very creative, I just don’t like the sound of clanging metal underneath a German guy screaming into an extremely low quality mic. I would have loved to love this album, my goal with starting this project was to broaden my music taste, but all I got out of this was a headache. 1/5
Musical interpretations of this sort, while interesting, are not going to readily embraced by me at this point in my life. It might have appealed more when the album was actually released, it just doesn't work for me now.
It's not too bad - I actually quite like the title track, "Sado-Masodub", and "Spionagedub". Rhythm dominant music is quite fun, as it feels like getting pushed around aurally. Also, anything is better than music that feels like a sneeze which never arrives!
Annoying cacophony of noise mixed with screamed German words making this some kind of Experimental Industrial.
Атональные индустриальные шумы под выкрики Кийа!
Это вообще не музыка. Это пока что единственный альбом из списка, который я не смог дослушать. Не заслуживает и одной звезды
As far as "challenging" albums go, this one has been my favorite. Not something I'd listen to casually, but I didn't hate it. It isn't comprised of chaotic melody like a lot of "experimental" music. In fact, most songs don't have melody at all.
Is this what it feels like to be a neo-nazi who unironically misses the point of the music they like? Well, I’m not interested in shaving my head or purchasing a weapon after listening to this, so you can’t blame the music. While I certainly won’t revisit this album, I agree it belongs on this list.
I get why it’s one of the lowest rated albums.