Spy Vs. Spy: The Music Of Ornette Coleman by John Zorn

Spy Vs. Spy: The Music Of Ornette Coleman

John Zorn

2.26
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What the fuck. I almost cried after realizing that all the songs would sound the god damn same. There is absolutely no way to tell one track from the other. Also, who the hell told John Zorn that he should make music, let alone record an entire album? I hope that person's pillow has two warm sides. There is no actual rhythm to these songs. Every single one of them is a bunch of trumpets and drums and clarinets and saxophones put together and the deaf producer said, "There we go, that's music". I don't think I will ever understand why this album is in the top 1001 albums that I must listen to before I die. I would rather die than listen to this again.

As I near the end of this project, so many times I have had to reevaluate my feelings about jazz, most of them being very positive. I have heard so many amazing albums I have loved! This is the album I will play when asked, "How could anyone hate jazz?" Oh, boy, I hate this so so so much! This is why. Mine ears hurt.

This is why people don’t like jazz. This ruins it for anyone else. This sounds like a junior high band warming up. Nothing to see here.

Yesterday I got Miles Davis - Kind of Blue followed by…this. Opposite ends of the jazz spectrum for sure. I gave Kind of Blue five stars, so logically this gets: 0⭐️ (sigh) 1⭐️

Whoah. This is pretty awesome... i don't believe i've heard anything like it. Though phrases like "free jazz" or "thrash jazz" already kind of get me to what i'm likely to make out of it. As everything is saying, this is some challenging music, and i'm going to end up on the side that says it doesn't work for me. I feel like there is about 25% of the time that if you even isolated a single instrument (particularly the saxes and rums) that you would even want to listen to that single instrument. And then they take all 5 instruments (sax, sax, drums drums, bass) and mass them together... and you get this. I will say that i appreciated listening to it, definitely an experience expansion for me. I love someone's comment about what would happen if you casually dropped this on your playlist while driving in a car with someone. To me it just highlight the stressful nature of this music... i feel confident that if Peace Warriors suddenly became the U.S. national anthem, there would be sudden increase in the number of stabbings across the country.

Two bad eggs in a row. Sounds like five different musicians playing separate songs in sperate rooms that are now being played all at the same time.

Only listened to a bit of this on YouTube as it doesn’t seem to be on Apple Music or Qobuz. Had to turn it off as it sounded like all the instruments were being played by different people in different places at different times. Just a cacophony of noises.

Juu ei. Ei minulle.

I thought I would like the shorter jazz pieces, but this just sounds like chaos. Did not finish. 1 star.

I cannot

Truly, truly, terrible! I think Spotify removed this album to save the world from the pain it causes. YouTube of course had it, and by the end my ears were only bleeding a little. So maybe not the worst thing on the list, but it is pretty far down there!

Not on Spotify. 0/5

I'm glad this is here because of the comments and because it made me think, like genuinely question myself and what is right and wrong and nice and not enjoyable. Who knows.

This is what I call "noise torture." I got through maybe a third of it but couldn't stand it. Definitely not for me. Some sort of experimental music.

Rating: 0/10 This is fucking shit, no words can describe how awful this is. Worst album so far and might go down as the worst album on this list.

This music was trash. I even like jazz, but there was no theme or variation, just a group of people vomiting up whatever notes came to mind. Awful trash

Nothing but maddening saxophone and drum noise🥴 Worst album until now. 0/5

It's not on Spotify so I couldn't listen to it

Not available on Spotify :(

no ❤️

Helemaal kut dit.

Jazz caótico. No se distingue del ruido sin más. Un 1.

you can't be serious

Jazz is stupid and I don’t get it

Noise. This guy has like a million albums on spotify and they all sound like my 16 month old smashing a little piano.

Imagine the 2008 Sichuan earthquake, 8.0 magnitude, unexpected, and violent; but in a room full of instruments (especially saxophones). This is what this album sounds like, with the only difference being if exposed to the poor unexpecting province of Sichuan you'd have many more casualties than the 87,587 registered by the earthquake.

I think maybe if I was smoking formaldehyde soaked cigarettes and madly charting conspiracy theories about how the postal service is full of lizard people on a white board in a basement, this music would totally work. Maybe.

Terrible

awful noise

Made me feel sick. I don’t believe anyone actually listens to this. The ultimate pretentious ‘music’.

This album should have been called insects dodging traffic. Did they say everybody go to a different room, play you instrument as fast as you can and then we will put it together?? Organized chaos makes sense for one don't but over and over it's just noise and really loses it's purpose for me.

When this album started off I was concerned about the band's safety as they were clearly falling down a flight of stairs. But as the noise continued I realized that this is a very long flight of stairs or perhaps they were just tuning up. It turned out that it totally didn't matter if they were in tune or not because this album is a noisy piece of garbage. However, I did enjoy jumping around the room like crazy to this music. I got some pretty good cardio but it could've been so much better if Richard Simmons had been asked to do some vocals.

What the hell even is this? My ears feel tortured. Easily the worst album I’ve heard in my life.

FRANTIC & FRENZIED This will be my 1,046th album rated. There's so much boring music on the list I've come to really appreciate the ones that sound like no other. However, I still hated this ugh I never want to hear any of that again ha

did not listen

56 seconds. That’s a new record! That’s the shortest amount of time I’ve spent listening to an album before I had to turn it the fuck off.

This gave me PTSD and made me shit myself.

This is way too cacophonous for me. I couldn’t get through it, so I listened to Ornette Coleman’s “Change for the Century” instead and that was beautiful.

not very good. aggressive drums and horns ruin this

what a mess

Nee man.

C'était quelque chose pis jle comprends pas.

I could only stomach seven minutes of this. It is genuinely one of the most stressful and headache-inducing experiences of my life. How is it possible to find this enjoyable? I would confess to crimes I had never committed after the opening 15 seconds just to make it stop. I've selected the first track as my favourite, but really I mean the first second or so, when hope still existed.

Uh, no thanks.

Absolutely unlistenable. This is anxiety. I hated every second of this. I am sure somebody likes this but, to me, this is a classic example of “just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.” Worst album I have heard in years. 1/5

This should not be on any ‘music you should hear’ lists as it sounds like a bunch of kids pretending to play instruments. Only could stand the first 8 minutes so it deserves a -1. Garbage.

Some of these "songs" sounds like every kids first time playing the organ sound effect on a keyboard, did not enjoy.

This album was a migraine in waiting. A dumpster fire that I could not extinguish fast enough. There's a reason why you can't find this streaming on a normal platform. Because it's hot garbage.

Unbridled hot garbage flowing through a sea of complete ridiculousness on it's way to my foot, so I can put it in someone's ass for making this.

My girlfriend forced me to turn it off after 20 seconds. I Thank her.

The first half is unrelentingly frenetic. Not for me. Too exhausting. By the time the slightly less chaotic later half came around I was so done with the whole thing. I’m going to go find somewhere to eat my lunch in silence.

Intense free jazz. Got through it, but was a bit of a struggle

I'd call this avant-garde, but the number of different letters in the term "avant-garde" makes it way too diverse a term to apply to that drivel. That was 41 minutes of utter nonsense.

Was this not just the same thing for 50 minutes? I don't get this.

I mean... these are obviously talented musicians, but this was pretty awful. There is a reason nobody uses two drummers. In their defense it did get slightly more musical in the last 4 songs, but it was still a pretty painful listen. I knew it was bad when an Applebee's ad came on and I was happy for the break.

I don't get it.

Why would you do this

oh my god. this... okay this album gives me a headache. i don't like it very much. this is like... actual freeform. actual avantgarde jazz. drums pound at unimaginable tempos. saxophones squawk like a pair of birds. there's brief periods of stuff that i am able to follow but the big majority of this album is actually... i just didn't like it. it's not for me at all. i would say if you're an academic who's trying to get all they can when it comes to avant-garde jazz samplings, listen to it. but this album actually ruined my day.

An album of nyc traffic

... the fuck? "Hey, I have an idea! Let's just randomly play our instruments as loud as we can!" "And we'll all be playing the same song?" "No way, why would we do that?! We can just call it 'art' and that way no one can criticize us!" Oh my god, this one sucked. Don't do drugs, kids.

It's like a never ending end of a song. Is it music or is it just noise? Just can't really appreciate any cohesion between the musicians beyond some fleeting moments. Rough listen.

Reading some of the other reviews, I understand why this may have been added to the list. Was it a minority choice to appease the jazz listeners? It was barely listenable, and I’m somewhat a fan of jazz. Every so often something would bloom from the chaos and be quite nice, but then degrade back into noise. The high point is that I made it through the whole album… 1.5/5

That was painful from start to finish. JZ’s Spy vs Spy is squeaky, out of tune sax over bombastic drums and fast paced bass; it’s more like noise with musical instruments than songs. I thought I heard music on two (possibly three) occasions but it devolved into noise with musical instruments very quickly each time. I didn’t think running could get much worse, then I went running while listening to this album. It was significantly worse than usual. Trashjazz in at (0.8*s)

Unable to listen to this on Spotify, but found the full album on YouTube., although I shouldn't have bothered. Wikipedia gives the genre as Avant-Garde Jazz / Free Jazz / Punk Jazz / Thrashcore which raises so many red flags. The album title, "Spy vs Spy: The Music of Ornette Coleman", is pushing the term "music" way beyond my defintion of music - I think that "vaguely musical noise" would probably be a better term. I'm 7+ minutes in, and the 5th track has just started, (I think), but it just sounds like one continuous track, and it's giving me a headache.

No esta en Spotify

Not available on Apple

It’s on YouTube as a 47 minute long video, which is probably its perfect form as just a meandering weird single entity. Free form jazz, much like all the other jazz we’ve had here so far, not for me.

You're taking the piss now

I tried... I really did... but could not tolerate this despite a few glimpses of something worth listening to sprinkled in there

Can’t make it more than 5 seconds. This is noise. Unbearable noise.

Like kicking an orchestra down the stairs of a mental hospital, I spent 40 mins laughing which may not have been the reaction they were hoping for. I imagine each musician was handed different 2 hour scores and told first one to finish wins. I honestly cant decide if this is genius or the sound track to a schizophrenic episode.

Extremely uncomfortable listen, can't imagine anyone actually sat through its entirety without going insane.

It's nothing but explosive Grindcore jazz in your face. I definitely felt the emotion they wanted to portray but my god this was a hard listen. I couldn't finish it. I don't even have a favourite song as it all felt nonsensical.

This is, without a doubt, the most chaotic thing that I've ever heard. Imagine like two different artists just being told to do whatever the hell they want but as loud and fast as they can with no relation to one another, that's this. I feel stress just sitting on my couch listening to it. He could be the most technically talented saxophonist in the world for all I know, but why would anyone want to listen to this? The only reasonable thing is the cover art which seems to depict various violent scenes, that makes sense to me after listening to this. To top it all off, it's not even on Spotify. Do not recommend. Favorite song: Feet Music Other: Good Old Days 2/14/24

AWFUL. Just too random.

Why did you do this John?

Album wouldn't play on Spotify

You hear one minute of this album and just wonder how the hell am I going to get through 40 more? ::Cue early memories at Nanny and Grampy's house:: The beginning is pure cacophony, like a moving truck full of instruments just flew off the road to avoid a puking cat. Then (almost exactly halfway through) the madness lines up for a few brief moments and it leaves you wondering if you're really just missing something, not understanding it or appreciating it. I'll admit the last half only improves by a small margin and listening to the full album gave me a physical stomach ache. But I can respect the free form style, the fast-pace, and the experiment. It's actually quite difficult to drum this unrhythmically and to make a saxophone squeal like that. I found myself referencing the minute's time to see which "song" I was on (and make some kind of correlation) which made it slightly more tolerable. My ears don't even really know what to do with this. It's like death-metal but make it jazz. It's either a 0 or a 5, no doubt it will be polarizing. I guess I'm glad I heard it but I would never put it on.

I actually was cracking up throughout this album. I went and listened to some of the originals and I appreciate Zorn condensing them down but it was just too chaotic. Between the squealing dolphins and dying elephants it was a riot. I think my brother-in-law could play sax in this band. 😂😂

This sounds like they told a bunch of ADHD children with no musical skill to pick up instruments and play them randomly. Car horns blaring while a set of monkeys smash drums, random elephants having their trunks stepped on, various flightless birds being picked up and punted, a litter of cats being thrown up against a wall of drums, etc. There are various ways to describe the absolute chaos over the first 20+ minutes of the album. I'm actually questioning whether myself and a group of my friends could go into a studio and spend a day to generate something more ridiculous to be passed off as music. Everything is mind boggling as to how this ended up on any sort of list by acclaimed music critics. Halfway through it all of sudden morphs into a somewhat controlled arrangement before mostly devolving again by the end of the album. All this did was confuse me whether I'm supposed to take this seriously or not. While I will never listen to this again something about it tickled me. At various intervals throughout the 40 minutes I found myself just listening and giggling like an idiot at my desk. Overall its surprising the amount of enjoyment I got out of an album that I can truly say I don't like at all. Consider me fully bamboozled. 0.05 star. Can't wait to see other reviews for this.

Can’t find it on Apple Music. Having read the Wiki review I can say for sure that I would have absolutely hated it. Whilst I have been surprised a few times by this list, I have complete conviction in my guesstimate of a 1 rating.

Absolutely fucking appalling

41 minutes of schreechy, squealing, headache-inducing chaos. Entirely too much going on and if anyone tells you they find this album sonically pleasing, they are lying to you. I award this album no points, and may God have mercy on its soul.

Everyone solo at the same time!

Irritating. Some tiny shows halfway through that they can make listenable music but they spent all their energy on being alternative instead

Album is not on Spotify, so no standout tracks. Lyrics/Vocals- N/A Instrumentals- I honestly don't fucking know Vibes- 0/5 Overall- 1/5 Avant garde is not for me, but I figured I'd give this a try. Holy shit I tried... it's a cacophony of noise. It sounds like somebody rubbing balloons together and stepping on rubber ducks while someone else fills a dryer full of loose change. My cat hated it. I let a few YouTube ads play all the way through just to get a break from it. That said though, it takes a level of impressiveness and talent to improv in such a way. This album was not for me, and I know very few people who would actually like this album if any at all. But, if you're looking for a quick way to end a college party then look no further.

Okay, looks like an early inspiration for Fantomas. With albums like this you have to appreciate the virtuosity, but it only gives you a binary approach - you love it, or you hate it, no in-between. And even though I tried, it was just a straight way to epilepsy. Still, a really interesting and original album.

I'm not ready for this...

Not my thing. I like jazz but this sounded pretty chaotic and didn't have much flow to it. 1/5.

100percent unlistenable

Normalerweise höre ich die Alben immer beim Lernen, hätte mich bei dem aber glaube ich danach einliefern lassen müsse.

Ich verstehe Jess nicht.

Tandon Scale Rating: -1 Standouts: none Foot Notes: 1 1:18 in and I’m having an anxiety attack 2 nope I can’t do it Would I Listen Again: they played this to get information out of other spys Album Cover Rating: (1-5) 5 Album Name Rating: (1-5) 2

Oh god no, not sure what I was expecting but not that

La mayoría de las canciones son difíciles de digerir (la 1ra es insufrible) Prefiero por lejos el jazz clásico. Algunas canciones tienen forma y se pueden disfrutar (la 2da parte del disco). Si bien entiendo y respeto el planteo de una escucha distinta de la música dentro del disco y del estilo, no es algo que elegiría escuchar.

Not for me

Nope. The worst kind of “jazz”. I don’t even consider this music. If I could give 0 stars I would. Some people abuse the privilege of being able to release music.

The cover art is the best thing about the album along with the last track being over. It is as if someone who just finished doing 5½ fat long white lines of nose candy, picked up their instrument and yelled RECORD DAMN IT! I have gotten through 10 minutes yet I feel like I have spent a lifetime trying to find a melody.

There were glimmers of music which I could enjoy in here but they were few, far between and didn't last long. I think that enjoying this sort of music takes a lot of work, which I'm not prepared to put in for this.

That's to much random Jazz for my liking. I get it; it's Jazz, but it's not the type I enjoy. It comes at you hard right out the gate.

This album isn't available to me here.

1/5 for making me scour the internet to find this pile of sh!t.

it's literally just noise.

Freejazz trifft Punk. Ich finde es schrecklich....

Can't find it anywhere

Pure noise. Didn't like it at all.

In my professional opinion, they should have played better so that this album would have sounded better. I hate John Zorn more than I hate Jim Zorn after listening to this.

Now I have a headache.

Annoying it's not on Apple Music! Or at least it's hard to find so had to go to Youtube for this one. Well this already isn't some early morning easy listening. Alright not gonna lie I did not make it all the way through on this one. A song would end and then immediately go into what sounded like the exact same jazz-thrash as before. I'm very cool with music like that but not an entire albums worth. 1.5 and rounding down. I won't be back. Also John Zorn is probably Jim Zorn's brother so he can go right ahead and fuck himself.

did i get past the halfway point of this album. no. is there any reason to. i think probably also no.

If I ever want to cause a panic attack I will listen to this again. I struggled with the lack of melody, lack of beat, it was too chaotic. It felt like brass players trying to one up each other.

This is not an ensemble; it's a bunch of musicians playing random shit on their instruments for 40 minutes. How the fuck this made it on this list, I will never know. There are moments where you can somewhat hear the virtuosity of individual instruments, but the whole is not better than the sum of the parts. This is like listening to a bunch of children playing whatever the fuck they want on their instruments. My beginner youth orchestra sounded better than this. Maybe this is what jazz sounds like to aliens.

p615. 1989. 1 star Intolerable and unremittingly violent jazz improvisation. My ears are bleeding.

Dear god. Made it 11 minutes in and had to stop. Was on YouTube so I couldn’t even read anything to distract myself. Kept thinking something listenable would come on eventually. It did not

Holy everloving shit. I am glad I read a few album reviews to understand what the intention of this album was. That was hard to listen to. I do recognize the experimental nature of the music, and there are some cool components to it, especially the fact that it's all improv I think, but that was extremely overwhelming with no breaks and not particularly fun.

Warning: It's jazz. Bad jazz.

This is the worst thing I’ve heard in my life. Reminiscent of a school jazz band before the conductor has arrived, it could be used as a cruel and unusual punishment method. The only reason it gets 1 star is because it isn’t possible to give negative scores.

It’s never a good sign when I see that I’ve been generated album by an experimental saxophonist. You might not believe it, but it’s not really my scene. Smooth jazz trumpet, sure. Experimental saxophone, doubt it. Songs I already knew: none Favourites: none When was the last time you listened to an album that’s existence made you angry? This sounded like a bunch of people playing their own songs on their own instruments as fast as they can without a care in the world for what the other band members are doing. I feel like people that enjoy this are also the people who somehow manage to find beauty in a wet floor sign in an art gallery. If you’re deaf, you might be able to tolerate this. If not, stay away. It’s not worth harming yourself by listening to this mess.

Sounds like a bunch of kids playing random notes and beats. Not for me.

This is a lot of chaotic noise. I’m only on track one. We’ll see how the rest of this goes and whether I make it all the way through. Five minutes in: Ok, I’m hearing some actual melody. Six minutes in: Never mind. Nine minutes in: I’m tapping out.

Solo lo he encontrado en YouTube subido a las bravas por un usuario. Unos 40 minutos de jazz. Empieza demasiado arriba para mi gusto ¿heavy jazz? Esto es infumable, supongo que habrá quien le guste pero le meto una estrella y listo.

All throttle, no brakes. The musicianship here – no, the *athleticism* on display here is amazing. Sprinting through a marathon the whole time. I *like* Ornette Coleman. I love *his* free jazz. I love what he brought to music. There's a purity in his performances. Zorn's interpretation is too much. Now I'm going to listen to Trout Mask Replica to cleanse my palate.

Unlistenable

I need to hold 1s on other albums so I have something to mark this one with

I like jazz and many of free jazz in general but I was deeply disappointed in this album. It is actually a tribute but was way overdone. The first half is practically unlistenable and not accessible at all, it improves a bit in the second half but it is still messy, noisy without any direction or harmonies. I managed to listen to it but it was enough for once in my life, thank you very much.

Noisy, not enjoyable

Its John Zorn. Dont know what I was expecting and I was still bored.

Ummmm yeah, so that just happened. I feel like my eardrums were violently assaulted by crap and will never be the same again. Sucks so bad. No wonder everybody else hates it too.

God god awful

this is one of the worst things i've ever listened to in my life

I just think it's complete nonsense. NONSENSE NONSENSE NONSENSE.

idk this shit wasn't even on spotify lmao

traumatising deja vu

Literally just noise

Chaotic speed jazz. I dislike.

It was not music. The only cool thing is the album title.

Utter garbage. Sounds like a middle school band warming up. Nobody is listening to anyone else, they're just trying to make the loudest noise. That's not music. It's angering. Someone needs to confiscate Zorn and Berne's saxophones. Those poor instruments are being abused and need to be saved. I had to break this album up across three days just to get through it because I could only handle about 15 minutes of the chaotic noise before I had to take a break. I hate this. I hate every minute of it. I hate that it's on this list and I hate that I had to give it my time.

The scorching hot tomato from my toasted sandwich burnt my mouth whilst listening to this. I don't know which experience I enjoyed more. I don't mind the whole wall of noise thing, within the context of a song. But not for 40 relentless minutes. I know people say art needs to be challenging at times, but you wouldn't go to a restaurant because it had a challenging menu. You go because the mojitos are nice.

Can't listen 1

This album is the soundtrack to a panic attack. It's as if a bunch of incredibly talented jazzbos got together and all played their instruments as loud and fast as possible without any regard for what anybody else was playing. Everyone is good at what they do, but doing it together is just an assault on the ears and it makes me very anxious. I could barely get through this one.

Jesus christ no, why

I got through about half..I just couldn’t. Thrash drums and screaming sax in a way I can’t follow or ‘get’

Even this was a bit out there for me. I’d have preferred just an Ornette Coleman album.

Preferred the game.

I just didn’t get it.

As much as I want to be hip enough to do so I cannot handle noisy jazz

That was certainly something

When art is so confusing only a few people enjoy it then it’s hard to consider it special. You shouldn’t have to be a jazz or music scholar to understand what is going on here but it seems that way. The free jazz composition of playing impromptu may work with one person playing at a time but when multiple people with the same instrument do it then it sounds like this chaotic mess that it is. Call it what you want but enjoyable is not one of those words. 1.7/10

Yeah I hate John Zorn

Avant-garde Jazz that was not my sound at all.

Azz: sassofono e batteria per 41 minuti è troppo. È troppo anche per 5 minuti.

Jazzy noise

Not a fan at all.

Jazz caótico. No se distingue del ruido sin más. Un 1.

This was awful. It sounded like a group of people who have never played instruments before went into a room and tried them out. There is no reason for this to be on this list. If I could give a lower rating, I would.

0/5 They say that "Those who can do, and those who can't, teach." This guy should have been a teacher. It was such auto-musical-erotic-ego-stroking-bullshit. Even Spotify wouldn't host it, and they have every Pitbull single!!!! 🤣

Jesus fucking Christ what a pile of runny horse shit. No wonder it isn't on Spotify: IT'S NOT MUSIC!!!

Ikke tilgængeligt

Not on spotify

I want to give this less than one star. Ouch.

Just pure chaos idk who sits down and listens to this I'm sure its technically impressive but damn its genuinely headache inducingly unlistenable.

oof not for me

Que coño es esto Turbio y raro,el disco no se puede escuchar,pero he buscado cosas de este señor y es mu raro todo. La resaca no ayuda (PSP)

Not in Spotify

John Zorn is a criminal for this, a massive musical terrorist unchained

This opens with an absolute cacophony of noise. And it really doesn't get better... but you do get better at listening to it.

CHAOOOOOOOOOOS, not in a good way

Possibly the worst one I’ve listened/been subjected to so far

Some people said listen to the end and you would be surprised. I was. It is surprising this ever got released, ever got onto this site and I ever had to listen to it. Not least until the end. For the UK people amongst us, this is the joke band from Jazz Club on the Fast Show.

Not supported on spotify

Avant-garde experimental jazzy is never good.

Andy told me not to listen to this and I trust him

Buckle up you chuckle fucks we are headed down to the fifth layer of hell as we experience anger in music form. Normally I like jazz but not in the context of being held captive in the sunny resort town of Guantanamo Bay in the off season. I can only imagine the sort of people who would intentionally subject themselves to this with enjoyment would own an assortment of gimp masks and the number one item on their to-do list is a bit of dick and ball torture.

Nothing against Jazz, but this is just Drums and Sax on speed. Utterly horrible. 1/5

Would love to hear the author's justification for this one.

No thank you. Album cover fucks though.

This is not what I had planned for the weekend.

It's strange to hear Napalm Death and grindcore in general being cited as an influence and inspiration for a jazz artist tribute album. It's also interesting that the folks at 1001 did not choose any Ornette Coleman albums for their list, despite his winning the Pulitzer prize for music. So I took a listen to some of the original Coleman tracks that John Zorn covered. They are much more listenable, and needless to say, much longer.

To much for me

John Wick in a pig farm.

First half is nearly unlistenable. Second half is a bit better, especially \"Feet Music\". Not my style at all.

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Abrasive

1. Where are the jazz police when you need them?

Aaaarghhh! Kill me now!

Dit is een van de ergste dingen die ik in tijden heb gehoord. Dit is muziek om door in een gekkenhuis te belanden. Ik kan werkelijk niet geloven dat iemand dit als beste album indient.

what did i just hear

Pretentious. Artsy. Crap!!!!!!!

Couldn't make it past 14 mins.

yikes. if this is considered jazz then i am not a fan. this sound was worse than nails on a chalkboard. this is not music 🤨🤨🤨

what the fkng hell was definitely down for some cool jazz, not this absolute and utter mess. Would - or could - have been amusing if there was one 45 second passage like this to start the album, then it settled into something listenable, but it does not - it's a chaotic violent garbage plate of musicians who might know their jazz but they play it like they've been on coke for 48 hours and in between have been fed pixie stix. Or the creatures from the movie Gremlins but sped up to 16x the speed and insanity. What an exhausting disaster. I tortured myself and made it through. This is unquestionably in the small runoff for worst albums I've ever heard. 1/10 1 star.

Un asalto a los sentidos y es como si el jazz fuese pasado por una trituradora metálica

Not for me

Sounded like a jazz band falling down the stairs.

Heard it before?: No Enjoy it?: Unless it’s in the ambience to fill silence I just don’t care for jazz so no Favourite song: Didn’t have one

"The album itself approaches free jazz from the perspective of hardcore punk, particularly taking note of the contemporary innovations of thrashcore and grindcore." aka a bloody racket.

This was really uncomfortable to listen to. Feels like an "emperor has no clothes situation" so kudos to Zorn for getting away with it but it's a big "no thanks" from me. To make things worse I just listened to a Jimmy Smith album so my jazz expectations were too high for this noise. I am having a medium good time trying to imagine someone who actually likes this album and is trying to tell me how their favorite song goes. I can picture the panic in their eyes as they let out their third squeal in ten seconds and realize exactly how untenable their position is.

Doesn't exist on Apple Music

The incessant pitch of the alto sax took me back to a time filled with undiagnosed PND - I won't be listening again no matter how talented the musicians

Sounded like if a saxophone played the drill instructor in Full Metal Jacket

This gave me a stroke...

Ghastly.

Really not a fan. Couldn't make it all the way through.

1 star for not being on spotify also FUCK THIS LMAO I LOVE JAZZ BUT THIS IS AN ATROCITY

Can't find this easily on Amazon. I'm not going to spend all day looking. After reading about it, this seems like one of the author's pet albums. I don't care even at all. Would give it 0 if I could.

Not a fan.

I guess it deserves credit for conjuring images of the series I used to read in MAD Magazine. But it sounds like a big jazz band conducted by Animal from The Muppets with Animal playing every instrument. At the same time. Without any overdubbing.

The drums sound like bullets firing out of a sub machine gun and the trumpets sound like finely tuned squeaking dog toys. I couldn’t differentiate the first three tracks from each other I didn’t mind the fourth track until the last minute then the album continues to fuck up for the remaining half an hour. Maybe like two minutes of this sound would’ve worked at the end of some heavy jazz rock album to send the album off on a confusing bang but 41 minutes is painful. Jazz and punk are both at the opposite ends of the musical spectrum really there’s no similarity between the genres so it doesn’t work; but I appreciate the album and the sound it’s trying so hard to achieve not enough to save it from a 1/5 though which completely deserves to be in the notoriously bad bottom 10 albums.

This is the sound the world makes around me when I have an enormous hangover.

Noise ?

Yeah, this ain't it, chief.

kansikin jo kertoo, että saksofonimelujazzia. ei toimi mulle.

Tässä on yksi hyvä puoli: rummut eivät swengaa, minkä takia musiikki ei varsinaisesti ärsytä. Itseasiassa ne hakkaavat melkein kuin hardcoressa. Toisaalta torvet kuulostavat erehtymättömästi avant-garde jazzilta, mikä on huono homma. Yhden hitaamman, blues-pohjaisen biisin melkein ymmärsin, koska sen pieni koukkaus formalismiin teki tämän musiikin ylemmyydentuntoisesta ironiasta hetkellisesti lähestyttävämpää. Ansaitsisi ehkä plussan ykkösen perään.

First track - is nuts Second track - is also nuts

I hate jazz music

This album is TERRIBLE!!! I personally enjoy listening to most forms of jazz, but free jazz is where I draw the line. The only interesting thing about this album is the cover art.

This was a violent assault of unending frantic insane noise. 2 drummers and 2 saxophones competing to be heard over each other. Making it through this was a miracle, though there was a slight tuneful reprieve around 24 minutes.

Fuck off John Zorn. It's not big and it's not clever.

More noise than music for my taste.

Couldn’t listen to it as it is not on Spotify

Wow. It's a blend of free jazz and hardcore punk. It's very original, very creative, quite an interesting idea and not badly executed. And I absolutely hate it.

Can’t believe this made the top 1001 list. Top worse albums of all time maybe.

This is one of the lowest rated albums on the list and rightly so. Usually with an album like this I’d admire it’s uniqueness and experimentation but about 10 minutes in I just got a headache. Frantically playing the saxophone and drums is not enjoyable free jazz. Also with Otis blue I got a lot of shit wrong in my notes so: satisfaction was a cover of the stones, respect was another interesting track, and it’s just wonderful world not the Louis Armstrong song

This is wild... its not good, but its a hell of an experience

What the fuck is this garbage? Top 1001? No chance

lo-fi death jazz beats to study/relax to

Trumpet-jazz-noisecore bullshit

Brexit in audio form. Rating: 1/5 Playlist track: [None - not on Spotify (thank goodness)] Date listened: 03/05/22

Really annoying

This is the first album that I found legitimately difficult to get through. I don't know enough about jazz to know why this is important or good. Frankly it just sounded like discordant, unpleasant noise and I would not care if I never listened to any of these songs again. 1 star, solidly the worst album we have listened to, and it would take something truly horrific to unseat this. Zorn should have stuck to coming up with lemmas.

Sad to say this one was really, *really* not my cup of tea. I would like at some point to listen to and learn more about jazz, as I think it's a diverse genre with a lot of cool music from the very little I've been exposed to. BUT this album really threw me into the deep end and then proceeded to drown me in the deep end. Near the end sometimes there was a melody I could grasp onto, but it wasn't enough. Maybe if I knew a lot more about jazz I could appreciate this, but I right now I can't.

Very fast and chaotic start to an album. Tough to follow and a bit tiring to keep up with and listen. Difficult to enjoy listening to this.

No gusta

This is not at all my cup of tea, sounds like the stuff pretentious jazz-heads pretend to like because they think it'll make them cool. It's pretty much just unintelligible nose. And don't get me wrong, I love some good free jazz or industrial noise, but it's gotta have soul, and that's not coming through for me here. On the positive side, the recording is pretty cool - drums are super full and deep, and I like how there's a different sax squealing in each of the stereo channels. Overall though, the original arrangements from Coleman are much better, I think I'll stick with those.

Chciałbym serdecznie Panu Zornowi podziękować za podwaliny pod popularyzację hardcore'u. Jestem pewien, że świetnie to brzmiało zagrane na żywo, a artyści dali z siebie na scenie wszystko. Muzykę traktuję jako sztukę użytkową i tak też rozpatruje te albumy - ten się nie nadaje do słuchania w żadnej sytuacji, jaką byłbym w stanie wymyślić. Na płycie to po prostu nie brzmi. Earrape - Monsters Inc. ma bardzo podobny zamysł, a słucha się tego o wiele lepiej mimo tragicznej jakości. Dziękuję za ciekawostkę.

Przesłuchałem zarówno aranżacje pana Zorna jak i oryginalne utwory i nie ma porównania. Spy vs spy jest przesytem instrumentów, tempa i złożoności. > John, jak dużo chcesz perkusji? > Tak. Nie jest to zdecydowanie album do posłuchania przy kominku i lampce wina, a bardziej pasuje na scenie trash metalowej.

Najgorszy album jakiego słuchałem w życiu. Lubię hardkorowe rzeczy muzycznie z różnych gatunków. Nie chodzi mi nawet o brak melodii, tylko o brak jakiegokolwiek konceptu za tym idącego. To nie jest jakieś świadome łamanie zasad muzycznych, oni dmuchają w trąbki i trąbki pierdzą. Nie mogę oprzeć się wrażeniu, że wrzucenie tego do tego challenge'u przez autora to łechtanie swojego ego "hehe, ludzie nie rozumiejo, a to taki album cudny". No właśnie rozumiem - nie mam nic do tego że komuś się podoba. Ale mam coś do tego, że ten album na liście jest, mimo że to lista albumów z muzyki popularnej, a tego nawet nie ma na streamingach. Obecność tego albumu w tym wyzwaniu to splunięcie w mordę wszystkim cudownym albumom, których tu nie ma.

Nope. Now I have a headache.

Nope. Big nope. That's worse than terrible. Does he actually make a living from this crap?

This site needs an option for zero, or negative stars. So somebody recorded my middle school band, while we were warming up, and decided to release it as an avant grade album of jazz fusion's version of speed metal. This crap is the musical equivalent of a root canal being performed without any anesthetic.

Free demais pra mim esse jazz

Not as abrasive as others have made out, but still a tough listen. There's probably something clever and meaningful in amongst the chaos, but I'll be damned if I'm going to try and find it.

What is this?!

Rather annoying free jazz.

Is this album a joke? Its just jazz noise

Couldn't do it. Holy fuck. I was asked to turn it off by Mel which really was the only small push I needed.

Nope. I mean, I realize there's and "art" to this and probably some transcendental poetic meaning to it all - but it's lost on me.

This album is utterly bizarre and could be effectively used as an instrument of torture. It's interpretations of old free jazz music but played much faster and less competently. This is album #73 and it's the first one I haven't been able to finish.

This was awful

This is like listening to one’s brain deconstruct.

Spotify couldn't play this album for me, glanced over it on YouTube but what the hell was this supposed to be?? Terrible, messy and just plain grating to listen to.

I’d rather give this 0 stars. Discordant noise.

I really didn't want to pile on by adding another 1 star rating, truly, I didn't. I read through the positive reviews hoping to hear it through their ears. Alas. Technically, what the band was able to accomplish together is impressive as hell. But my average daily anxiety is high enough as it is. It's too much, man. It's too much.

unable to locate

Noise. No better than trashy garage rock or punk. No excuse for it just because it’s rooted in jazz. It is not a pleasant listening experience.

Awful, like having a class of pre teen music students play whatever they'd like all at the same time

Not on Spotify

What a fucking din

No songs available on spotify

Sorry but how does this album belong to this list?! It is nothing but noise.

1 point for just not existing on Spotify and having cool album cover

Not good

Not available for me on Spotify. From what I listened to of it on YouTube, this isn't for me. I'm not sure who it even is for. Literally just a wall of sound.

I like Jazz but this was too off the wall. 3/10.

is it even music at this point

Wow. Pain

This album was not on Spotify so I didn’t listen to the whole thing but I’ve heard enough to know this is not for me

What on earth is improvised music

This was the music they used to torture the branch dividians I assume.

I didn’t know saxophones could have aneurysms.

Improv jazz? Just noise, couldn't even make it through the whole album

Just too freestyle for me unfortunately

Angry jazz...hated it

Could barely make it beyond the first track. Terrible.

Definitely not for me! How can they put this shite on the list and miss off Blind Faith, and HOTH and Presence?

1/5 ouch! no way josé!

Just no

Nog maar drie nummers ver en ik ben het al beu.

To many sounds in the music on the album and wasnt a big fan

Just frenetic jazz ! I’m afraid I can’t even be bothered to listen to that racket again ! *

Cacophony of sound

First, the important business: Spotify can dine on a bowl of fat ones for not letting you play albums (even shuffled!) on the free version of the mobile app. Instead, you must listen with the other artist's stuff shuffled into your shuffled album. Google confirms this is a conscious choice to be insufferable. BIOYA. Second, the allegedly important business: this album. I feel like I'm being run over by a gaggle of saxophonists. This is jazz for crackheads. I feel like I'm in a manic montage in a Tom and Jerry cartoon being artfully brutalized in comic ways. These drums are a Stone Cold Stunner ad nauseam ad infinitum and my eardrums are the Rock bouncing around everywhere. I am far too besieged to score it highly yet far too amused to score it TOO lowly. Too, by way of its homophone two, is the operative word. An album I NEED to hear? In the immortal words of Squidward: "I didn't need to see that." 2/10

I was today years old when I discovered that Free Jazz is a thing and today years old when I discovered that I am not a fan.

Pretty much hated it. Jazz kinda stinks.

Way too intense jazz. Pretty much just noise and not music. Tough to listen to