This Nation’s Saving Grace by The Fall

This Nation’s Saving Grace

The Fall

2.89
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I've never liked The Fall because I don't like Mark E. Smith's voice, nasal tones, inflections or the way he talks most of the lyrics. It's their style and clearly some people like that... but I don't. His voice ruins songs that I would otherwise probably like.

One of my favorite bands of all time- few bands have so many great albums yet have no perfect album (The Wonderful and Frightening World Of... is the closes to a 5/5) not certain why other than it always feels like something is missing and I can never pinpoint it. Pretty annoying as this has been going on for years. Oh, well I suppose it's fine if some things remain a mystery and for better or worse The Fall remain a full-on enigma- no other band has been as challenging as The Fall to my ears and few as rewarding- warts and all.

Truly the wildest and weirdest post-punk I had to hear from this list. So much that I find it quite hard to describe as a whole. I don't think just saying that it is a mixture of different ideas would make it justice, so I'll try to describe each song, even though I can't really describe good enough the peculiarity of this project: The album starts with "Mansion" a short and melodic intro that doesn't really do anything particularly impressive. The first real song of the album is "Bombast", a very groovy cut that has some incredibly powerful choruses, in which the instruments gives their most noisy and explosive performances. Then comes "Barny" which keeps alternating between some nice sounding verses and some very eerie and weird interludes. As the song progresses, the verses also incorporate some elements, like the very dissonant piano in the middle of the track. Next is "What You Need" which is maybe one of the stalest songs, as it introduces some mediocre guitars and bass lines that stay unvaried through the whole track with some buried voices chanting over them that feel like they are trying to be anthemic, but they fail. Thankfully, "Spoilt Victorian Child" elevates the energy thanks to the added attitude. Besides, it has an interesting interlude towards the middle, but then comes back to the main themes. Afterwards is "L.A.", probably my favourite track. Loved the sound of the bass and the chord progression. Doesn't do anything weird of super interesting, but I think is super satisfying to listen to. Following the previous one comes "Gut of the Quantifier" with some nice, catchy riffs and vocal melodies yet not being the most memorable one. "My New House" is the next track and it feels quite uncanny. The instruments seem to be bit out of tune and instead of feeling messy, they add a very tense sensation to the track. The 9th song, "Paintwork" has some pleasant and even I'll say cute and happy melodies, but I also think it is a bit repetitive and long, as there is not really anything more going on than the main melodies repeating in the verses with the addition of the choruses. The second to last track "I Am Damo Suzuki" has to be the weirdest part of the project, as the super eerie guitars with reverb create the gloomiest atmosphere of them all. Finally, the album finishes with "To Nk Roachment: Yarbles", a song that reuses the main melody of the intro but now has some very depressing lyrics. In addition, I'll need to add that the whole whole album features some of the weirdest lyrics I've ever read. So overall, despite some weak cuts, I think it is a rather challenging and unique experience. Do I feel like coming back to it? Not really. Still a good album though.

I love all the Punk/rock lately. Almost delves into some New Wave sounds.

I was so close to absolutely loving this album. The atmosphere created by the instrumentals is incredible but lyrical it couldn’t keep up

You should seeeeeee my new house!

Whoo baby, this rips. This is exactly what I’ve been waiting for from The Fall, having gotten two of their albums on this list already, the debut (which I quite liked) and The Infotainment Scan (which was pretty dull). This album on the other hand is energetic and confident and has a definite personality. Great listen. Must-listen #297

Uh-oh. It's The Fall. That's bad. Oh, but the Wiki blurb says this is more accessible than their previous works. That's good! But then I looked at their other albums that I've heard already, and I see my review for "The Infotainment Scan" complained that it was described as "the band's most accessible album" and it came out 8 years *after* this one. That's bad. But then the first few tracks actually sounded like music! The vocals are again entirely unintelligible, but if this holds up this could be the first album from The Fall that doesn't get a 1 from me. That's good! But the album as whole just sounds...simplistic and kinda amateur, if I'm being honest. I don't think I could point to any specific element of this album and call it high quality or even interesting. That's bad. But it wasn't objectively awful, offensively discordant, or a complete struggle to get through, so it won't get a 1. That's good! But The Fall contains potassium benzoate. That's bad.

Not bad, the riff in these songs were awesome everything else was just fine.

Post-punk.

Meh. Might have caught me on a bad day. I like punk, I like lou reed, I tried to like this album but just couldn't get into it.

Some post-punk (Pere Ubu) is unabashedly art-rock, primarily taking their leads from Television, while new-wave outfits like Blondie embrace a more pop-oriented sound. The Fall falls somewhere between art and pop, not an avant-garde explosion - instrumentally they're too friendly, too in-a-groove and corporeally sensible - yet too obscure lyrically to be considered a pop band thru and thru: 'Musical chairs rouge cheeks he remembers / Thru' the aqueducts of five years'; 'On an Asiatic plane / W/ wings not of grain.' That balance ought to be something we celebrate, and this record has moments worthy of praise, but listening to this often felt like I was being washed over by an unplanned indecisiveness: an absence of meaning, purposeful spirit.

no gracias

Drunken, rambling UK post-punk. Manic and erratic, not really my thing, but I'll admit it makes for a pretty fun listen.

This was ok. Passed me by a bit and won't be on regular rotation, but I kind of enjoyed it

500th album reviewed! Unfortunately not a winner. There are a few decent riffs here and there, but this album to me is almost all filler. The songs don't really go anywhere, and the sound isn't punchy or interesting enough for me to want to hear one half baked idea for a whole track, with vocals that sound like the band is just freestyling in the studio. I'm willing to give this the benefit of the doubt and maybe it's just not for me, but it's hard to imagine this ever being essential listening.

A longer album (at least on Spotify). More my vibe than a lot of what I get but the album stayed around longer than I needed.

As noted earlier, I was around during this era (in Europe, in fact) but I was not into The Fall for some unknown personal reason. I missed out for sure...oh well, grow old, live/learn, die. A refrain/story as old as the written word. If not older....

the tribute to Damo Suzuki and Can is cute

I love this band. They have at least ten albums better than this and this is decent.

what you need got very repetitive very fast

An enjoyable listen but too long in my opinion, a bit of filler here and there

Has some flashes, but think there’s a lot of filler in here too.

A fun punk album

The very definition of "Cult album" Intense ragged, noisy with a Gome made aesthetic. An acquired taste.

Sounds like really bland new wave, some tracks were fun but overall a bit boring. The mix was also really flat, which kinda goes with the 80s punk aesthetic but I wish the mix was more dynamic

Also not that good but again don’t exactly remember I also skipped like half the songs

Fun, post punk new wave, couple of fun tracks (dany a stand-out)

I do enjoy post punk, and I did enjoy this album, too.

enjoyable

There’s something about the particular combination of punk and New Wave sounds that works here. But the songs largely fail to be engaging or memorable. Not essential.

This was good. It reminds me of The Vasalines.

Immediately could tell Green Day was inspired by this band’s music (their album cover as well). Really liked this vibe even if it’s clear this was the beginning of the punk genre. Very fun and catchy tracks here with awesome vocals. Guitar riffs are cool but get repetitive when the song is 5 minutes or more. Regardless, I liked a lot do what The Fall is doing here and it really is cool to hear the start of a whole genre being developed.

не впечатлен.

I was pretty meh until Paintwork, which was again. That song alone made me want to relisten to the whole thing, and it won me over.

very okay

Overall rating by me: 6/10 Songs added to the playlist: ,,Vixen", ,,Rollin' Dany", ,,Cruiser's Creek" Notes: Very smooth rock but joyful. Liked the vibe, but sadly many of the songs didn't really fit my taste.

Better than a 1 but not a 3. I would never miss this if I never heard it again.

Mid-80’s lite punk

Not unenjoyable.

What a shock. English punk/postpunk trash. 1

When I saw another British Post Punk album, I thought I’d check out a couple songs then bail on it, like some of the other ones I’ve gotten. It wasn’t that bad, but it being longer than an hour finally wore on me. 2.5 / 5

Undoubtedly a big influence on some bands I really like, I've never made much of an effort with the Fall in the past, but I could see this growing on me with multiple listens. Gut of the Quantifier & the concurrent single Cruiser's Creek stood out and Paint Work is fascinating!

timeless

Basic rock instrumentals with punk vocals i.e. bad.

I really don’t have much to say about this album. It sounds like every other post-punk album, and I like it as much too.

Not terrible, but they kept blue-balling me with tracks that would've been better if they'd gone 60% harder.

I’m so tired of these terrible British bands being on this list. The sun should permanently set on this fucks.

Another highly influential album by another highly influential band I hadn't actually bothered to listen to before. This is a cool one because you can genuinely hear what all the bands who cite them as a influence took from The Fall. Avante garde punkish with scattershot, well-read lyrics. Also Mark E Smith is one of the all time, seemingly, insufferable witty misanthropes. I knew about that without having heard much by The Fall, who have an entire Wikipedia entry devoted to all the different band members, which is nuts. That said being said I didn't love the album.It gets a bit same-y for the full run of the album and the vocals are a bit monotonous, but there are songs I'll definitely go back for and I'm interested in checking out more stuff from their staggeringly large discography.

Lead singer sounds like Austin powers. Felt like my ears were being attacked. Paintwork felt like a half finished song.

Classic 1985 punk! I really enjoyed the album. I was fun. A lot of Bowie influences.

I’d be really enjoying the intro, then the singer starts yelling again and I’d have to fight to not skip to the next song. 3/5 bc I liked these instrumentals more than Lorde

It was fine

Let’s get punkyyy

80s black midi (and just as bad)

I wasn’t expecting to like this but dang this was pretty fun. 4/5

Enjoyed more than expected!

I have never heard of this band or album before, so I'm coming into this with absolutely zero expectations • Mansion feels like an instrumental a First of October song would have, with spooky lyrics laid over top • I wish the vocals were a bit clearer in the mix at times. Occasionally they get through fine but it feels like they're quieter than the guitar a lot of the time • A lot of these instrumentals are really repetitive. I don't know if any song has had more than one repeating riff so far • L.A. and Vixen are quite a bit better than the songs before them, but my favourite so far is still the instrumental opener. • Paintwork's instrumental is quite nice, I just wish it had a bit more to it • Cruiser's Creek was another song I didn't mind, and it was a good end to the album Overall, I don't think I outright disliked this album, but it's not my thing. It absolutely had its moments, and there were some really nice instrumentals and the vocals also suit the songs well. The more I listened to it the more I got into the vibe of the album. However, the vocal production and repetition throughout the album stopped me from truly enjoying it, and the length of some of the tracks didn't help at all. Favourite song: Mansion

A high three, almost 4 star listen. I think I could get into The Fall.

Each song just repeats itself and you get sick of them after 30 seconds each

Truly didn’t pay attention to this one

Favorite Track: Barmy

This felt like a whole lot of nothin

Like British grunge? Not bad but not great

Good punk album. Gave me Pixies vibes. A lot of fun at times, slightly annoying at others. Overall, I enjoyed it quite a bit.

скучно. мелодии интересные, но нет разнообразия + текста из одной-двух фраз

new wave, chaos rock, 1985 -> 2

Going in I have no idea what to expect --- I've never heard of this band or album. I'm guessing something vaguely punk rockish/indie from the album cover, which is probably a bad sign, but I have high hopes! Those hopes were not immediately dashed! The intro was good! I started getting worried by track 3, and by track 5 my hopes were indeed dashed. Do I need to keep listening to this, I asked myself? "Yes, yes I do," I answered. And you know what? It paid off --- as a test of mental resilience and commitment... Just kidding, it wasn't THAT bad. By track 6, L.A., my outlook was picking up a bit. Looks like it's the most famous song on the album and that makes sense. It's one of the most accessible (and of course by "most accessible" I mean, "least sucky"). But it was just one of a few outliers. I actually liked the track Couldn't Get Ahead. Paintwork, Petty (Thief) Lout were decent as well. Closest thing to this that I actually like: The Modern Lovers.

Fun, interesting post-punk, new wave. I dug it more than I expected.

Definitely punk. You can hear how this influenced later bands

The Fall tar det rare inn i post-punken uten å tippe over i experimental rock; det holder seg i bunn & grunn rytmisk. Oppskriften med Mark E. Smith som en soapbox-poet ledsaget av skranglete gitarer, uhyggelig lyder, og slarkete trommer kunne godt vært lyden av civilisationens fall — men et langsomt fall inn en verden som er litt off contra et plutselig rykk inn i et post-apocalyptisk landskap. Denne skiva er et av deres definerende verk, og Barmy må være en av tidenes bops. Tight.

Jeg ventet meg egentlig litt øvingslokaleestetikk fra The Fall, som bare forståsegpåere liker å smykke seg med. Men dette er jo dritkult Det er overraskende poppa, men er likevel og snuser på det eksperimentelle. Jeg tenkte ofte på Sonic Youth mens jeg hørte på plata. Det er kanskje noe med når de bryter opp noen av låtene med støyete lydlandskap. Produksjonen er tight, og det er ikke sikkert plata hadde funka uten. Også gøy å se at det er John Leckie, som også produserte debutplatene til De Press og The Cut. Jeg var egentlig klar på 4, men så starta jeg plata på nytt og skjønner at dette er en ny favoritt fra prosjektet

Når det kommer til postpunk, så blir det vel ikke stort bedre enn dette. Det er en god skive, men det viser manglene ved postpunk som sjanger

hell yeah. hell yeah. music: appreciated. (⌐■_■)

This rips, and it’s also one of few over-an-hour albums I’ve encountered so far that didn’t overstay its welcome. I was sort of surprised when it ended! I like the Fall, the Fall is good.

Yet another British post-punk band, sounds so much like the others. The only difference is that this album is perhaps even MORE one-note than the rest. Each song is monotonous and droning, lacking anything that keeps me interested. Would be a 1 star, but adding another star for at least being musical.

This album is simultaneously excellent and grating. There are a lot of cool riffs and driving songs. You can hear where Sonic Youth and their ilk got their inspiration. At the same time, there is little variation within the songs. They find something that works and beat it to death

A touch longer then needed, but MES is brilliant so I’ll let that slide.

Loud rock, felt like an incoherent wall of noise at times. Jam band vibes?

I love post punk but I search for more dark atmosphere and melodies. A lot of song here were repetitive but over all enjoyable album for me.

Come back to this

An acquired taste. I love it.

6/10 - Thought this would be hardcore punk but a pleasant surprise

I couldn’t make it to the end. The songs are long and extremely repetitive.

Generally empty and repetitive. This is musically stable, but there isn’t much to latch on to or appreciate. The dynamic melodies are often unsatisfying, leaving very few songs worth returning to.

This honestly got pretty annoying

Doesn’t do it for me. Repetitive and stabbing ad nauseam with lyrics and guitar. They found some little glimmer and just let that be it. Despite the mediocre nature it creates for the album.

this wasn’t good. riffs were super repetitive and the vocals were just bad

Sounds like punk or early alternative music. Reminds me a bit of The Pixies. Pretty good listen. The songs kind of started to hook me. This might be a 4 with more listens.

I felt like I should like this more than I did. But, I might also be suffering from some burn out in the 1001 Albums Winter of British Post-Punk.

This one was kind of frustrating because it kept giving me tip of the tongue syndrome without being able to specifically point at which bands certain songs kept making me think of. Frank Black's talk-singing over some Pixie tracks? Maybe. The ominous guitars from Black Rebel Motorcycle Club? Maybe it's actually the Stooges that's making me think of. No, wait... Or maybe the nonsensical lyrics are more King Missile? Then you get to 'Paintwork' and it feels like a catchier, updated Velvet Underground. Or maybe these guys are a bit Velvet Underground-ish in how many bands they might have been ahead of in their improv-ish but still holding together sound. I'm not sure I actually enjoyed it beyond the more accessible tracks ('Paintwork' for sure) - or the brain teaser of trying to figure out the influences/influenced.

Almost liked almost every song, and then didnt

Yes! This is the reason I do this!! Another great band/album that I was unaware of somehow. Great earlyish punk.

I'd give it zero if possible

Enjoyed this a lot, more than I thought I would. Great find and a day that makes following this list meaningful.

Well, that wasn't the worst that we've had to endure from this list. It sure was long at 1 hour and 5 minutes. And sometimes the songs sounded like they were 1 hour and 5 minutes - and VERY repetitive! Got annoying sometimes. I won't be saving this to any of my lists, and will not return to listen to anymore of their 'music'. 97 albums!!???? OMG. NO.

Fundamentales. Solo por L.A. y Cruiser´s Creek ya merece la pena. pero un disco de Mark E Smith, es necesario en cualquier listado. La excelente My new house, la velvetiana Paintwork, Barmy, What you need y la poderosa Gut of the quantifier La reedición en CD agrega los singles Cruiser's Creek y Couldn't get ahead, así como sus caras B. I am Damo Suzuki es un tributo al grupo alemán de los años setenta Can y su vocalista Damo Suzuki. El riff descendente en semitonos se basa en la sección final de Bel Air del álbum Future days de Can (una progresión similar también se ofrece en Don't turn the light on, leave me alone del álbum Soundtracks), mientras que el patrón de la batería se basa en Oh yeah de Tago Mago También está Mansion, el tema de apeetura de sus conciertos. Y por supuesto hagamos reverencias al productor John Leckie, que logró sacra brillo al sonido y un equilibrio entre accesibilidad y su identidad. Por aquella época estaban ellos y Pere Ubu, Wire... poco más.

There's something to be admired in the sheer doggedness of Mark E Smith. I can take or leave The Fall personally. This one rumbles on musically and Mark rants about various bollocks and its all really whatever. I'll give it a 4 cos the instrumental at the start is beautiful.

some good tracks, but some really lacklustre ones too imo. classic punk albums are always worth the listen though!

Really enjoyed this & certainly more melodic than prevoous works. Favorites include 'paintwork' 'spoilt victorian child' and 'LA'

Enjoyed but slightly repetitive

Post-Punk with a Gothic vibe. I quite liked it.

I loved this. Looking forward to listening to it again.

Each song is a little too repetitive, and the album goes on about 20 minutes too long, but the bass sound is nice and the melodies are actually pretty good. 3.0/5.0: Good

this easily couldve been 4 or 5 stars if they tightened it up. as it stands its a bit of a mess that drags on for way longer than it should. one of the songs is literally just the opener with added vocals and a few other layers.

Ehh.. not my favorite. I'm fatigued of the post-punk-indie-brit music. This was fine. It had some interesting tracks, but mostly kind of meh for me.

I liked the second half of the record better, but it's reeeeeeaaaaally looooong and there was no need for it. Kinda boring.

3 - kinda all over the place but overall I enjoyed it

Rollin' Dany is the only track on this album that I really enjoyed. Aside from that, and some of the simplistic riffs that I quite liked, I found the whole thing pretty boring.

not my cup of tea

Very weird and cool. Nice soundtrack to making pancakes. A little bit of velvet underground feel, animal collective, and the clash.

SO glad to finally listen to these guys. This is very varied, so I imagine this could have influenced many different areas. The instrumentals range from quite catchy stuff to some quite bizarre audio collage type stuff, like the paintwork song, which I think are both great. His vocal style and delivery is so interesting, not really singing a lot of the time, but there's some funny lyrics and interesting delivery styles. Also the female vocals which I think are his wife who was also in the band are great on a few songs. There's just so much stuff on here its just such a full experience, one of the (probably very few) albums which I think warrants this long of a runtime, as I feel like they fully demonstrate their range as a band, like for a small example the rollin' Danny song towards the end which I guess is their take on blues stuff, is great, but mostly because its just that one song, unlike these one trick pony bands who do it for all songs until its stale. Favourite songs: all but a couple ones which were a bit too out there (I am Damo Suzuki). Overall around 9/10

Interesting album, but nothing that really stood out.

Love this album and I know it very well. As close as The Fall’s outsider art ever came to being mainstream art.

Repetitive simple music. Repetitive simple percussion. Repetitive fairly monotone simple lyrics. Not much to like for me.

*1985. English post-punk band. *This is the Fall's 8th studio album - I've never heard of The Fall or any of them. *I've tried to listen to this a couple of times. It starts out with a moody, creepy cool song with no lyrics. Then we get into the British post-punk world where it sounds like it could be any garage band ever. RATING - 6/10

Didn't really love the music but I like what this band stands for, whatever that is.

Interesting, groovy, weird. Kinda punk? Not much to the lyrics. Repetitive, sounds like a long jam-session.

Favorite Track: Barmy

Nothing exceptional

Easy to pick up and listen through the whole album

is it possible to shout and mumble at the same time? the fall bravely endeavors to find out! noisy, ugly, unpleasant, musically just a handful of sludge to me.

never heard of the fall but this was all right. that riff from barmy sounds uncannily similar to the one from valleri by the monkees. like so many albums, this started strong but lost me after the big single, at which point i wasn't even halfway through. i thought punk albums were supposed to be like 35 minutes long max? favorites: mansion, bombast, barmy, l.a.

It's fine😼

Was this the same song for a whole album? Painwork was almost cool but got worse

This is like the soundtrack to my late onset teenage rage. Enjoyed the second half much more than the first.

this aint it

Post punk see.s like punk-lite. Not pop, but missing the punk bite. This was a bland, though not bad album.

Not really my vibe tho I can see how some of my favorite artists may have been influenced by this type of music

Not for me.

Mark E. Smith är Manchesters kanske bäste textförfattare, det är synd bara att man inte hör vad han sjunger särskilt ofta. The Fall är ett band som är intressanta, bra och roliga. Sällan dock samtidigt eller ens som helhet. Här finns en del både kul och bra punk/postpunk uyan att nå hela vägen och absolut inte att funka som ett album.samtidigt har man heller aldrig tråkigt. Ag skulle rekommendera en eller två bra singelsamlingsr istället, där gör The Fall mycket bättre.

Jag tror ändå jag gillar det här. Det finns en del rätt medryckande postpunkriff, till exempel Barmy, What you need, LA och Mansion. Även om många av låtarna innehåller sång, eller åtminstone mummel, blir det mer som instrumental musik för mig. Det vokala är antingen bara otydligt eller ligger långt bak i ljudbilden. Sällan det går att uppfatta mer är enstaka textfraser. Men jag uppfattar i alla fall I got everything I want except for money.

New wave igen. Första albumet jag fick på sajten var med the Fall. Det är förstås orimligt att de har med album i boken, än mer att det har med två. Å andra sidan låter detta lite mer intressant än annan NW vi tidigare fått lyssna på. Rätt sköna riff och basgångar. Men samtidigt blir det återigen enahanda. Efter några låtar är man uttråkad. Kravlar sig över strecket till en tvåa men inte mycket mer. Nu ska jag lyssna på nått annat bättre.

Postpunk som maler på. Ibland skramlar det. Ibland är det lite putslustig gladpunk. Inget som når fram till mig. Är inte särskilt förtjust i den här typen av pratsång. L.A. är den låt som tilltalar mig mest.

That was fun.

I’m into most of the stuff in this orbit but never really cared for The Fall. Not sure why that is, but they never clicked for me. To be fair though, this is the only album of theirs I listened to. I may like the later stuff better.

Rart album. Minner mer om americana-country enn punk.

Not my style.

This is probably the first old-school punk I have listened too. It is kind of fun, but very rambly and weird, the songs all sound the same. Songs I liked -Bombast

It felt like I was listening to a punky "The Clash: vibe sometimes, with other songs being like Johnny Cash but like he wasn't really trying and breathing heavy into the mic LOL but I did like it enough to listen, just wasn't the BIGGEST fan in the world.

Highlight: Mansion Could this be the album that killed British post-punk in the 80s? Perhaps. It borrows heavily from Wire, Television, The Cure and The Smiths. Great bass though. I'll revisit this album when I pull the other two by The Fall. Overall: 3/10

I think we’ve had so much post punk that’s it’s no longer making much of an impression to me. As we approach 900 I’m starting to feel the list padding, two Beta Band, three The Fall, that weird 90s morrisey one, the myriad of Elvis Costello really don’t need to be here.

Ho hum. It's a fair enough picture of how punk turned to depression rather than anger. But that wasn't a good thing was it? Musically a bit bland though bass player working hard to some effect. If you're in a hurry to die I'd skip this.

3rd and final album I got by the Fall. It's my favorite out of the 3. It's harsh and it sounds like they mean it. I don't like all songs, but quite a few. Favorite song: spoilt victorian child

70s punk is not my strong suit and that just proved to be true in spades with this larry right here. A very inconsistent album that I just couldn’t get into. Showed a beacon of hope on track 14 but it never kicked it into second gear. Vocals were always undercooked or drowned out whenever I did get to hear them. Far from my cup of tea.

New wave, post punk work that holds on to some punk attitude. In the vein of the stooges. Also seems like an early foundation for alt rock and others. I love the signature extra syllables of the singer.

O dziwo znowu mi się podobało. Może to tylko dwa chwyty powtarzane w kółko, ale potrafię docenić, w jaki sposób wybrzmiewają. W tej płycie jest coś, co robi niepowtarzalną atmosferę. Dla mnie naprawdę porządny rockowy album. 7/10

This may be obvious and possibly intentional, but if you've listened to 10 seconds of a song on this album you've heard the entire song. These are fragments of songs, which can work sparingly, but for EVERY track on a 60 min album to be this way does not work. If the song writing there this could have been a good album.

There were some duds, but some of this had the same appeal as Velvet Underground (e.g. Vixen) or The Replacements. Its crass, its punk, I can rock to it With that said, this album lacks tracks that vary enough to keep me interested after the first minute expires (something those other accessible bands figured out) Its worth digging up the wiki for this album and reading what James Murphy of LCD had to say.

The Fall has a massive discography and I have only heard a few of her albums, but they seem very much like a band with which you know what you're getting. Not a bad thing either, they recognize what they're good at and stick to it. I can't say this was the most unique album ever, for them and in the grander scheme of post-punk, but it was definitely well done. I like the energy on this one, the grooves hit hard and the vocals are consistently strong. Very nice album.

The first time I encountered Mark E. Smith was when he tried to suffocate Joe Cornish with a plastic bag over his head on TV. He was joking of course, but was still kinda following through on it. "Vinyl Justice" was a segment on the Adam and Joe TV show, where Adam Buxton and Joe Cornish would arrive at a musician's house dressed as police, and call them out for crimes against music (embarrassing records in their personal collection). They arrived at Mark E. Smith's house dressed in protective riot gear. Because he's an unpredictable, dangerous lunatic. In "This Nation..." that sense of unpredictability is front and center. Chaotic, aggressive and wry spoken word from Smith is layered on top (or sometimes below) stuttering guitar and bass loops, sound effects and cymbal crashes. At one point during "Paintwork", it randomly cuts to an Open University lecture on red giants, apparently because Smith accidentally taped over part of the master tape at home and just decided to leave it in. There are tributes or references to Can, A Clockwork Orange, The Doors and The Twilight Zone thrown in the mix. At times it feels like rock, but other times it feels more psychedelic and experimental. But at its core is a real art punk energy, mostly down to Smith being behind the wheel. I guess that Adam and Joe segment is a good metaphor for this album. You start off prepared, dressed in riot gear, but by the end of the album Mark E. Smith has put a plastic bag over your head, is sitting on top of you and punching you in the ribs, all the while laughing his head off.

Some melodies are nice, but I'm so bored with sound and especially tons of overrepetition... Why?

Fantástico e fantasmagórico. As canções aqui são cheias de textura, são densas e impenetráveis. Os vocais são indecifráveis, as melodias são incompreensíveis, e o resultado de tudo isso é o suprassumo do Punk. A apoteose do gênero. Puro e inalterado, sem filtro e sem freio. É pegar ou largar, e eu compreendo 100% quem larga, mas eu pego e pego firme. O álbum me prendeu inteiramente já nas duas primeiras faixas. Uma introdução espetacular ao universo frio e indiferente de Mark E. Smith. Ouvindo esse álbum só consigo pensar em um dia nublado, uma saraiva talvez, mesmo que o dia que eu o ouço esteja ensolarado. E quanto mais você o ouve, mais imagens ele evoca em sua mente, um fluxo imparável. Arte irrestrita. A quebra de expectativas, a forma sobressaindo a função. Todos os elementos desse disco marcham pelo mesmo caminho, e todos eles servem a mesma estética, a fortalecendo ao ponto de fervor. Adoro essa sensação única de achar algo que eu nem sabia que estava procurando. The Fall (o outono ou a queda?) já estavam em minha lista de bandas que eu queria me aprofundar, ouvir a discografia e rankear. Depois de ouvir esse disco, a vontade aumentou exponencialmente. Agora quero mesmo é pular de cabeça nos 31 (!) discos que eles gravaram. Pegá-los e torcê-los tal qual um pano molhado e beber de canudinho todo o chorume que escorrerá. Nham nham. 5/5

Meh - vanilla rock that doesn't move me..

Not bad.

Amongst all the British punk rock bands, The Fall is one of them. The avant-gardish playing set them apart enough from other bands, but not enough to elevate this to a great album.

Their best on here

Kinda liked some of it but the 6 minute tracks were hard to chew through.

I enjoyed it

Not my genre

Vintage NME slop (complimentary)

It's better to listen to Sonic Youth

Hmm yeah not a big fan of this at all. Repetitive in a Talking Heads way but not quite doing anything interesting with it.

Did not like this at all. No polish to the production or songwriting. Sounds like a high school band screwing around in the garage.

Fenga ikkje denna karen her

I found myself surprised by just how horribly bad this one was. Just noise on top of more noise with lyrics that didn't make any sense. Really bad pull today.

Jedan od najboljih the fall albuma

I'm learning more and more throughout this list that English post-punk or maybe just post-punk isn't my thing at all. I started to list what I don't like about the album but instead of that I will just say that its not for me one bit.

this nations grave mistakes, jiggling all over the place

I liked it, not gonna continue these reviews unless they pay me though.

I know there is definitely someone who has tried to get me really into The Fall, and while I am by no means committing to their humungous discography of music, I did want to check out this project to see what the hype is all about. This album feels like a much darker and moody version of Talking Heads with the very unique and off-putting vocals. This project is just about as weird as that last description should have you think it is, and if you are looking for a unique factor to the music then this does not disappoint. I definitely don't think I will fully get this project now, which is both a bit saddening and exciting, but unfortunately my score seems to reflect that in the current state. I can see why some people have quite a love for The Fall but I just don't quite see eye to eye on this oddity today...

Decent not so hardcore punk band

Kind of a punk – grunge sound but nothing really memorable from this album. Worth a listen but nothing to get excited about

Never liked The Fall and this effort has done nothing to change my mind.

I don't know... This was weird but I Linda enjoyed it!

Not a favorite - I like other music I've heard by The Fall, but not this!

Didnt fuck with it

Did not like it.

Proto-punk

These guys shat out an album like once a year for 30-something years, one was bound to hit

I think most punk is just bad by design and this offers nothing to set it apart from its peers. is it still counter culture if you do the same thing as everyone around you? A lot of blurry noise.

Oh what’s this? A punk album! Not only that… an experimental punk album! I can’t think of anything worse

Interesting british Punkish album. Nothing out of the ordinary tho, lacks a better signer or destacable instrumentals. Or understandable lyrics :D

Did really do anything for me and was very long

horse shit

So I’ve always been a huge fan of Mark E. Smith and The Fall, so much so that I can proudly say I saw them live in Boulder, Colorado about 20 years ago. That show will always stand out among all the bands I’ve ever seen live. They didn’t really do anything all that memorable performance wise, but just the fact that they’re such a legendary band and I got to see Mark E. Smith perform live before he passed away makes it unforgettable. Now, with that being said, I’m a little surprised to see this album on a top album list, because The Fall is one of those bands that isn’t for everyone, and listening to a Fall album is usually something sought out by someone who knows exactly what they’re looking for. Either way, the fact that this made it onto a top album list definitely outweighs all the crap that’s on there, such as Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears.

Too repetitive and head banging for my taste.

Best Song: Vixen. At least the female vocalist can sing. Worst Song: Gut of the Quantifier. Jesus the singer is so annoying. The song could have been good without him inanely blurting out whatever the fuck it is he's blurting. Overall: I hate this band. I've hated the two previous albums of theirs that I've had to listen to on this list, and I hate this one too. The singer is always either just talking - which is uninteresting - or when they're singing it is just this endlessly annoying, whiny repetition of the title of the song.

My first time listening to The Fall. Decent punk album I suppose. I don’t love it but I don’t hate it. I’ll listen again, maybe it’ll grow on me. We’ll see.

When Jens thought she talked about the season, sure, I totally understand why you might hear it that way. But when Jens thought she talked about the most overrated post-punk band of all time, it's like, no? Why would you *ever* think that's what I meant?

Never heard this one before and I could go back to that.

A couple of listenable tracks, but too inconsistent for me to really enjoy on the whole.

Was decent as I like older punk music, but got a bit repetetive.

genuine ass

I absolutely love some of this, but I absolutely hate the rest. Why is "My New House" 5 minutes long?

This was generated for me right after The Saints' "Eternally yours", which had been released 8 years prior. It's fair to say punk hadn't really evolved an awful lot in those 8 years. Well, this is a bit more rough and experimental, in fairness. And it has Mark E. Smith.

It had glimpses of something that I would have liked better. Lots of things there that I enjoy, but it seemed to stutter throughout and not quite get there.

A couple of toe-tappers.

The album started out pretty strong, and I liked the post-punk sound right off the bat. It has that gritty, experimental edge that made The Fall stand out from other bands of the time. There’s a rawness to it that works really well in the beginning. About halfway through, though, it started to wear me down. The songs blur together after a while, and the album just goes on longer than it needs to. It loses some of that early momentum and starts to feel repetitive instead of unpredictable. Still, there’s no denying the band’s influence and unique sound. This Nation’s Saving Grace has its moments, but trimming it down a bit would have made it hit a lot harder.

My first Fall album I've properly listened to! Really enjoyed a lot of the songs and unique style to their sound. Can see how influential they are to other more contemporary artists. Felt some of the songs slightly outstayed their welcome,but really enjoyed this and shall be listening to more!

A couple of catchy moments, but nothing remotely special. 2 stars for trying.

Y'know? It's interesting, and got a kinda fun energy.

Я долго, эмм, шел к этому альбому. Так долго, что послушал его четыре раза, и все равно будто бы шел. Говорят, это его поп-проект, и для меня это конечно пиздец интересное заявление, но допустим. Слушается отлично, но музыка очень настоенческая. На агрессивную осень. Лучшая песня - Mansion.

Don’t hate it. But nothing really redeeming either.

I want to like this more than I do. There are moments where the bass grooves hard and the call-and-response female vocals almost edge toward a B-52s vibe, but the mix feels heavy and claustrophobic. I respect the attitude and the off-kilter energy, but it never quite grabs me. Interesting, occasionally fun, but more curiosity than connection.

Can see how they were an inspiration for so many other bands. Styles changed throughout the album. Enjoyed listening to this one and trying to figure out who else might have been inspired by their works.

There is some fun stuff on here that makes me give it a two out of five. Would probably love this in a bar at 2 am.

A very cool album indeed. Didn't listen very actively at the start and made my way more than halfway in, until I got to "Gut Of The Quantifier" - which made me realise I hadn't really been listening, that this was a great song, and that I should start again and listen properly. Great decision, ending up saving many songs. Very cool sound, L.A., Gut, Paintwork, Petty (Thief) Lout as my favourites. Album cover is cool too, pretty apt. Will definitely return to. 4.2*

Definitely a vibe but not one I needed a whole album of....

Vocals lack clarity but the instrumentals are great. Almost Hi-Fi Rush vibes at points

3.0 - Ok

Found it to be a bit too long which made it have diminishing returns. But there’s some good stuff here. 3/5

Great Songs: Cruiser's Creek Good Songs: Bombast, Barmy, What You Need, Spoilt Victorian Child, Vixen, Couldn't Get Ahead, Gut of the Quantifier, I Am Damo Suzuki, Petty (Thief) Lout Mid Songs: L.A., My New House, Paintwork, To Nk Roachment: Yarbles, Rollin' Dany Bad Songs: Mansion

That's a nice album.

I’ve spent years trying to get into The Fall and have always struggled — but maybe This Nation’s Saving Grace is the album that finally does the trick. It’s a really strong, catchy punk record. The opening side is brilliant — Mansion, Bombast, Barmy, and What You Need are fantastic tracks that set the tone perfectly for what’s to come. Vixen and Couldn’t Get Ahead are also standouts, and the addition of Brix Smith’s vocals gives the songs real texture and energy. The Fall’s sound is stripped back, simple, and raw, yet incredibly powerful, with sharp lyrics and strong themes. This album captures exactly what I imagine mid-80s Manchester must have felt like — gritty, restless, and alive. I really enjoyed this one and will definitely be giving it another listen. I think I’ve finally found my way into The Fall’s world. Favourite track: Barmy Least favourite track: The album does drag a little toward the end. At 16 songs and just over an hour long, it’s a hefty punk record. If it were trimmed down — dropping a track or two like I Am Damo Suzuki — it could easily have been a 5/5. Album artwork: I really like the cover — it’s busy, chaotic, and perfectly suits the album’s character.

I liked this album until I didn't-- it kind of dragged on with the same one-trick pony. The guitars are groovy and old school and have simple hooks, and the vibes verge on dark and gothic. Chaos is introduced by way of the vocals, which are loud and unhinged, except they continually just repeat the song title over and over in multiple songs. The album is just too long without a lot of change in formula or tempo. It's a good sound but starts to slog on.

This is the third consecutive day I've generated a 1980s album. Mark E. Smith sang just like he did in "Glitter Freeze" by Gorillaz. A versatile, catchy, and fun album. Favorite Track: "Paint Work".

This album is a bit too noisy and busy for my taste. I can’t tell what it is exactly, maybe it’s muddy production, maybe it’s the songwriting itself, but it feels very messy. I’m sure that was the intention, but it does kind of become just noise to me at points. I also think that many of the songs go on a bit longer than they need to. I might be able to appreciate it more if I listened to the album a few more times. I don’t think that the unconventional vocal style is as bad as some say it is, it’s post-punk, not exactly known for being typical. That is one thing I’ll hand the album, though, it is pretty creative. 3/5

Was alright some songs felt like if there some tweaks i would had enjoyed them

If you listen to The Fall three times, stand up four. I’m sorry, I was really reaching with that one, but I promise I tried. Anyway, TNSG will be my third and final album by The Fall to review. I didn’t care much for Live at The Witch Trials, but I found The Infotainment Scan to be pretty enjoyable. Given those mixed results, I have no idea how I’ll feel about this album, but I’m ready to jump in! I’d put TNSG squarely between the other two albums of theirs. The overall sound on this album was pretty enjoyable, and I did like the way that The Fall would use one main riff on each song, and build everything else around it. In a few instances, those riffs were really great and incredibly catchy, but most of the time, they were just fine. It was an interesting way to construct this album musically, and it’s a shame that the standout songs were harder to come by. Speaking of things that repeated, I enjoyed the opening track, “Mansion,” and the same musical motif was used again on the closing track. One of the things that I didn’t enjoy on this album was the way the vocals were mostly mumbled and difficult to decipher. I like post punk music that has a political message, but it drives me insane when the lyrics are practically indecipherable. As far as favorite tracks on this album are concerned, I enjoyed “Barmy,” “L.A.,” and “My New House” the most. The main guitar riff on “Barmy” was excellent, and I loved that tinkling keyboard sound too. “L.A.” was my favorite song on the album though. I loved that pulsing sound that was looped throughout the song, and the guitar playing was great too. It was everything I’d want in a post punk song. I really liked the guitar playing on “My New House.” That twangy, metallic guitar sound was awesome, and it made this song really unique. Overall, this album was fine, but I just wish it had been a bit more interesting and unique.

Not bad, not great

This album had the potential to be pretty good if they had a different singer. And a different lyricist.

Feels like a pretty radio-safe punk release - focus on catchy riffs and memorable vocals. L.A. even has keyboard featured in it. the kind of release you'd have a 50/50 chance of letting it play or change radio stations

Pretty good rock music. I think I would like it more if I listened to it a second time.

I’m so tired of 1980s British post-punk. I’m about to give up on this fucking project.

Mark E Smith is a legend and the way he talks through the songs is great

Very interesting album. Great band. This is like a 3,7

There's good punk and then there's bad punk...this leaned more toward bad punk. You can only get away with being repetitive if the song is short. Most of these songs are way too drawn out and hard to listen to at times.

Cruiser's Creek couldn't bring it to 2 stars. Vocals were so annoying.

bro das isch s dritte album vo dene huere tuble womer do druf hend. ha die erste scho recht ass gfunde. das isch früener. bombast tönt noch post punk jo. jo sie kreisched ume. oke stimmt s einte vo ihne vode 90er hani recht cool gfunde. barmy recht igängigi gitarremelodie. my new house isch no lustig? ich finds aber insgesamt ehner langwilig s album. paintwork cooli verschiedeni melodie. aber dass afoch en guy die ganz ziit am yappe isch findi chli müehsam.

joo also isch sicher kei schlechti band aber 3 albe??? YO LUIGIS MANSION RIIIIIESE BANGER aso nei es isch voll easy aber chli wenig hahaha barmy isch na fun gsi wies wieder zrugg chunnt! suscht hets mi nanig unglaublich us de söckli ghaue L L L LL L L A A A A A A A L L L L L L A AA A A hahahaha also ich han LA jz musikalisch nüt unglaublichs gfunde aber iwie en geile move wie sinnlos d lyrics sind, chani respektiere ich muss na ussefinde, öb ich am tag, wo ich live at witch trials glost han, irgendöppis graucht han oder öbs actually so guet gsi isch will das jz findi voooll easy und na funny aber halt echt nöd meh de gegesatz vo my new house und our house vo csny findi gad sehr funny paintwork macht absolut nüt mit mier, ARSCH I am Damo Suzuki fangt na cool ah, mite gitarre und de drums gfühlt völlig nöd im einklang AAAAABER denn passiert straight up eifach nüt ussert dasser nachli über de beat redt und schreit joa und s letschte lied passt denn au gad. hans album ok gfunde meistens aber jz de schluss isch echt ahstrengend gsi, wird glaub es 2 (ussert ich fühl mich rebellisch und gib es protest-1)

Pretty raw, pretty fun, this was on my preferred end of the punk spectrum. Fave Tracks: Mansion, What You Need, Spoilt Victorian Child 3.6/5

Maaaan, fuck you for growing on me. Chunky punky scruggly sounds. Like a drunk and loose Dead Kennedys but British. Some songs still annoy the piss out of me tho.

My god this was a slog to get through. Over an hour long, and it's just all over the place

This Nation's Saving Grace and Grotesque (After the Gramme) are the two records by The Fall that I own. I've always sort of enjoyed them, but I never felt the need for more. You can get your fill of The Fall through This Nation's Saving Grace and maybe something earlier to show a less poppy side. If their more accessible record doesn't strike your fancy, then there's little reason to dig further — most of the catalog is just Mark E. Smith ranting over a post-punk vamp anyway. You're either into it or you're not.

Cool album

It’s pretty good. I’ve never heard Them before. It has that post-punk vibe that I like, so I might dive into this and other stuff from them

When started listening i thought i heard the voice before even though i did not enjoy the sound so i'm guessing this dude has 2 albums on this list... think it was the drunk dude that couldn't sing but were elitistic about it. The band outshines him but the style but his vocal style has influenced other artists who actually made it better so i guess there is a silver lining. the 2 stars are for what came after this and the actually good band that had to play over his ramblings.

So cool! Great 80s indie new wave vibes!

Every time I listen to this band, I start off wanting more, but eventually they just get fatiguing. It’s like mayonnaise.. I like it, just not by the spoonful.

I like the music and vocals even though I can’t put my finger on what it is that I find appealing. Maybe the strange little vocalizations at the end of certain words. Or words-uh.

Just a good post punk album. Enjoyed it all the way through.

I accidentially listened to the wrong The Fall album first and really liked it, and realized I already listened to it and I really liked it then, too. So then I listened to this one, and enjoyed it too. Maybe not quite as much as Live at the Witch Trials but enjoyed it a lot.

Fierce, singular, challenging, wonderful (and it gets the fifth star because there have been so many insipid mainstream albums in my feed recently, this actually IS an albumyou need to hear)

Not a band I’ve ever listened to before and didn’t think it was my thing. However quite enjoyed and given not familiar with I think 7/10 should translate to a 4

What was this again? Some shit punk again I think

Sympathiquement déglingué. 3.49 étoiles

I like this as mix tape fodder, but a solid hour of it? That grated on me after a while. Still, I get the relative hype around The Fall. 6/10

The Fall are very singular as far as post punk of its era with how they seemed to be very... well very freeform might be the right way to call their music. You have Mark E Smith doing his speech sing rambles and the rest of the band exploring sounds, it's the kind of ethos that can take you anywhere and it took these guys MANY places (it only stopped bc Mark died). I got The Infotainment Scan before this, but I had already heard this album before. I never listened to it much since The Fall's style isn't something I found myself relistening to much in the past but I was happy listening to this again after 4 years since I last heard it. Giving it some time to play like 2 or 3 times I started digging more of the playing and weird ideas going on, which is always a plus. It's a classic for a reason, especially songs like Bombast, LA, Barmy, Paint Work and I am Damo Suzuki

I had trouble paying attention to this album but the moments I did focus in I liked it. I just couldn’t latch onto it for what ever reason.

Vibey album with some fun songs. Usually not a big fan of punk rock, but this one was good. Favorite track: LA other picks: paintwork, barmy, spoilt victorian child

While it may be seen as a great album for others, and there were some good melodies in there, it didn't hit that same level for me as other albums I've listened to so far. It's not a bad album, but it's one of the few I've listened to in this project where I could not for the life of me listen to it in one sitting due to getting almost bored.

A handful of the songs just go on too long. Didn't really dig this album.

No tan bueno como el primero. No me quedo absolutamente nada. Nota: 2.7

Second album proposé par le générateur après "The Infotainment Scan' qui ne m'avait pas convaincu (noté 2/5), en particulier à cause du chant. L'accompagnement est aussi intéressant dans ce second album, il est très original et parfois dissonant. La structure des morceaux n'est pas vraiment standard, ce qui m'a poussé à vouloir découvrir la suite. Le chant n'est lui toujours pas terrible, mais l'originalité du reste me l'a presque fait oublier. Il est donc probable que je le ré-écoute ! =>3/5

Noisy and annoying. Off to yell at a cloud

Hin und wieder klingt so etwas wie eine Melodie durch, was aber sofort durch furchtbaren Gesang übertönt wird. War eine Qual durchzuhören.

Das andere The Fall Album war schlimmer, dies noch erträglich

Musically pretty good, actually quite enjoyed much of it. Vocals are a bit wavy.

I liked this listen, but it was a bit overlong.. nice chill punkish sound, nothing overwhelming. Overall 3.5/5

How much of this punk rock crap is going to be on this list? I’ve heard enough.

8th album of a band I've never heard before in my life. Very Clash-y. Could've used a trim.

The Fall are one of the most iconic underground bands of the 80's, hugely influential and yada yada yada. I was never a big fan. maybe they require some deeper listening. Four of their albums are here, so there will more chances. Key tracks: Barmy

skranglete greier. Stemme jokking, ikke på den gode måten. Litt kult instrumentalt av og til, men ikke så ofte.

Awesome, this is the album that got me into the Fall. Now they're up there in my top 3 bands (might be the first but don't feel like debating that internally). This definitely feels like their most accessible work. The opener and closer serve as nice bookends that give the album more of a cohesive feeling than other Fall albums. Bombast is a high-speed train that gets the album off to a great start. Steve Hanley is one of my favorite bassists ever and I think he mentioned his bassline in this song is one of his favorites (his book is well worth the read). What You Need is another of my favorites of theirs. It's one where the lyrics fit the repetitive, hypnotic nature of the Fall's instrumentals perfectly. Paintwork is arguably the best, definitely the prettiest song on the album. Just a brilliant idea splicing the two textures together. Then the nod to their biggest influence Can with Damo Sazuki. Peel really summed them up well "always the same, always different" which does help to describe their ever-changing lineup and material from a broader sense. But it can also be used to examine their songs on a micro scale. They find their groove and add subtle variations throughout. Who needs 2 minutes of filler in a song to get to the cool groove when you can just make the whole song exist in that sexy groove. Then add Mark scribbling his dark poetry on top of it. As far as Fall lineups go, this has to be one of the most legendary. Brix obviously deserves and gets the recognition of her era. There's the backbone of the Fall in Craig Scanlon and Steve Hanley (It always shocks me and reminds me how great MES is that the band didn't go to hell after their departure. A lot of their later stuff is fantastic. Blindness and Auto Chip 2014-2016 especially). The super underrated and unpredictable drummer in Karl Burns. He always makes such interesting choices I couldn't imagine other drummers choosing. As far as where this album places in their catalogue, it's very tough. Listening again there's not a weak link on this album. Comparing to the rest of their pre-90s material, Witch Trials, Slates, Grotesque, Hex Enduction Hour, Wonderful and Frightening World of the Fall all genuinely have as good of a shout as this one. There will never be another Fall, thankfully they've given us the output of 10 bands to make up for it. Long live the Fall, Rest In Peace Mark E Smith. 21st perfect album, 790 albums in. Rating: 5.0

Not my cup of tea at all. Musically fine but a pretty dull album

pretty good, pretty standard british rock

This is an awesome record. I didn’t know it before. My test of awesomeness is if I need to acquire a record in vinyl that I don’t have. This one of them. It’s got swagger and doesn’t care if you like it or not.

Oozing with the sounds of the bands they influenced. I remember them! Shoulder pads #1 : ) I liked their raw, Violent Femmesie Rome Voidy I'd like you better.. never say never! sound. I had not realized their impact so strong from Sonic Youth to LCD Soundsystem too I love that!! 3-4

This is a nice cross section the 80's post-punk scene. It's so very familiar. A bonus that it's been the perfect backdrop to my workday.

Mark E. Smith. The "E" does the heavy lifting. Mark Smith. Innumerable There was but one Mark E Smith. And that was more than enough. This album is probably the best top to bottom but he kept it interesting for 40 years with too many albums to count. Long live MES.

In many ways I struggle with the fall, instrumentally they’re great, and they’re a huge inspiration on my favourite band, suede, especially on their latest albums which I love BUT mark E smith is an acquired taste isn’t he? I want to like him I do normally like spoken word vocals but there’s something different about this, and the albums hella long. I’m gonna give it another go as I want to fall in love with it but 3/5 for now

Very diverse post-punk jams.

uhhhh....yeah, no

Len Houmous was once considered This Nations Saving Grace. He once thwarted a terrorist attack when his music was being played on the radio and it was so beautiful that they all laid down their arms. Magic. 4.2 7/16 Vixen

Not my cup of tea. Honestly got worse the more I listened which is not usually the case. Instrumentally I think it was fine though.

Impressive casual punk styling

This Nation's Saving Grace by The Fall [1001 albums]: 7/10, Kind of blending the styles of punk and post-punk, this is a very 80's pop approach to post-punk that delivers well in sound but lacks a bit in songwriting. This is the most out there album I've heard yet on the 1001 albums list, but it doesn't exactly leverage that chaos to create interesting songs, but rather to create a fun, off-kilter punk vibe. The vocalist sounds like he's drunk and unsure as to what song he's singing and I really like that, it really adds to the funny elements of the chaos. If the songs were a bit more technically focused or emotionally impactful, I could really connect with this, but as it is it stands as just a pretty great mid 80's punk vibe.

Post-imperial noir