Dr. Octagonecologyst by Dr. Octagon

Dr. Octagonecologyst

Dr. Octagon

2.69
Rating
21623
Votes
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16%
2
28%
3
32%
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18%
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6%
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The perfect album for a 13 year old boy. Some funny concepts but overall waaaay too juvenile for me.

Not for me. The beats were great, the juvenile concept, lyrics, and humor did not age well.

Temu version of MF DOOM. My first 1 star rating after 100+ albums.

Not my cup of tea

Infantile and stupid. Simply an outrage. Rap, hip-hop, electronic music. There's always someone who's into space gynecologists and surgeons. All I can say is that for me, it was an absolute waste of time. My incomprehension of people, the critics, who rate this "comic-sound garbage" highly only grows stronger.

Based on the intro, I'm not going to waste my time on this album. Not sorry.

Zzzz entiendo su valor pero no lo pude terminar. 1.5

This sounds good musically, but the lyrics are truly stomach-churning. This album is ultimately quite vile when it comes to the lyrics. I actively disliked listening to it because of its content. I guess I'm a huge prude / loser.

Just no

So weird. So offensive. Beats are ok

The only thing I liked about this album was the smooth beats and mixing of the instrumentals. The character work and story doesn't work for me. It's woman-hating, sexualizing, all-around icky.

Disgusting intro track. And not in the "stank-face" kind of way. No – this is one minute of awful sexual foreplay with a lazily recorded beat put over it, marking the start of a so-called "groundbreaking"(?) hip-hop record. Girl Let Me Touch You is a full-length track that, lyrically, is exactly the same. Is it bad, though, that it kind of sounds to me like generic 90s hip-hop for that reason? Yes, at least Dr. Octagon is rapping about science some of the time. But the music is so horrendously bad (on most tracks) that the lyrics are pretty heavily outweighed. Sorry, poetry fans. The audio part of music is much more important than the literature part. One major exception is Blue Flowers, which despite being heavily carried by its nifty synth-string part, stands out so much from the crowd that it deserves recognition. The instrumental is darn good, and I would've liked to hear more cool melodies in other parts of the record. Waiting List – which I think is a bonus track – is also notably better than most of the record. The synth line and very soft keyboard flutters in the right ear are big standouts. It's a good time to remind everyone that interludes are generally bad unless they contribute interesting musical ideas that are recapitulated later, or otherwise add to the atmosphere and build-up. As with the vast majority of the genre, Dr. Octagon fails to achieve any of the potential positives of interludes. But the interludes aren't even necessarily the worst part here. The seven consecutive tracks from A Visit To The Gynecologist (yes, this is a real track title from the list of the 1001 best/most important albums of all time) to Halfsharkalligatorhalfman (again, a real track title) are all bad and completely forgettable. "Earth People, New York and California / Earth People, I was born on Jupiter" is a pretty weak pair of lines the first time it's played. But, perplexingly, it was selected as the über-repetitive lyric in the chorus of a five-minute-long track (Earth People). At least the bassline is kind of good, even if it doesn't vary at all throughout the song. 1/5 Key tracks: No Awareness, Blue Flowers, Technical Difficulties

This genre and culture aren't meant for me and it does nothing for me. I didn't make it through a single song. 1.5/5

Fucking awful

i think this is about my 12th album and there hasn’t been one women involved… so many men. as for this album… it sounds cool. i like the album cover. innovative and interesting sounds the gynecologist song is gross and misogynistic.

the first album i genuinely couldn’t finish, not for me at all

01) Intro - 1,0 02) 3000 - 6,0 03) I Got to Tell You - / 04) Earth People - 5,0 05) No Awareness - 5,0 06) Real Raw - 5,0 07) General Hospital - / 08) Blue Flowers - 6,0 09) Technical Difficulties (Remix) - 5,5 10) A Visit to the Gynecologyst - 3,0 11) Bear Witness - 5,0 12) Dr. Octagon - 5,5 13) Girl Let Me Touch You - 5,0 14) I'm Destructive - 5,5 15) Wild and Crazy - 5,5 16) Elective Surgery - / 17) halfsharkalligatorhalfman - 5,5 18) Blue Flowers Revisited - 5,5 19) Waiting List (DJ Shadow/Automator Mix) - 6,0 20) 1977 - 5,0 TOTAL: 5,00 (50/100) Current ranking: 755/808

Bad bad rap

Das piores coisas que já ouvi, nunca mais quero ouvir.

Who is listening to this, and what’s going on with them?

Bruh, what is this flow, and who decided this should be on this list?

This is definitely the most bizarre thing I've heard in a long time. Tracy Morgan meets Clown Core. I can't say it's good? The beats are neat, but this is just really out there. Kool Keith, you're an odd duck. I am a hip hop enjoyer but never really got into MF DOOM and the like and this is firmly in that square of the chessboard. Incredible flow but too weird and nasty. Oddly it sorts of compels you to keep listening? 1.5/5 rounding down

Is this a joke?

Listened to first 5 songs and couldn’t get into it. Not the biggest fan of lyricism, rhythm or vibe

This would have been awesome if I was 11 with severe learning difficulties.

Not my jam at all. Not awful but not thing really grabs me or stands out.

1/5 - Hard pass

This is truly a bizarre hip hop record about the fictional character Dr Octagon, who is described as a homicidal, extraterrestrial, time-travelling gynecologist and surgeon with a dark, absurdist and juvenile sense of humour. I don't know whether the purpose of 'Dr Octagonecologist' is to be funny or as offensive as possible, but the mix of medical/hospital speak with both gross-out and overly sexualised humour gets old rather quickly. While there are some decent beats here and there, the lyrics are pretty lame and forgettable, and there isn't even a modicum of profound statements here, it's just one juvenile rap after another. Yeah, nah. Dr Octagon isn't for me. My arse is fine, thanks. Best songs: None

Does this moron not know Jupiter is a Gas planet? I wish he had been born on Jupiter, this album wouldn't exist then. Drivel, apart from 'Blue flowers' which I had in a playlist, but it's made me realise it's only interesting because of the sample used. . ..

Olipahan tosi paska levy

In a nutshell: the 80s called, they want their beats back. This album encapsulates everything bad about hip-hop: skits (Intro started as creepy track then it flipped into a porn voiceover. Wtaf?), clichéd backing beats and loops (reminded me of early hip-hop, like RUN-DMC), questionable lyrics (of course some are going to be sexist and misogynistic). It has not aged well. The only worthy thing of note is the flow. Sounds good to me. Just listen to 2pac and DJ Shadow. You'll get more bang for your buck there. Overall: 1/10

What is it with people (men) thinking that forcing a reaction out of someone makes your work worthy of praise? Such a cheap way to get attention. Disgusting. Duran Lantink this u??

someone check his hard drive ASAP.

Not just another rap album, it was a bit different. Unfortunately you can't read good for different. Earth People was the only decent track on it. And it was just toooooo lllooonnngggg. It became boring. 1 it is

Dr Monotonist

What was this pillock thinking? Totally tasteless. The lowlight being his gynaecologist song. I love to find out if there are any females who actively choose to listen to this would really get off on the lyrics. A depth lower than anything Old Bob Dylan or Steely Dan could plumb. 0 stars if I could.

So glad that this is over - really had to push through. To begin with, the first track was lowkey concerning but then the moaning stopped and I thought we might be looking at a improvement (or an anomaly) however when I got to 'visit to the gynecologist' i realised that whoever wrote is actually sick in the head and does not deserve to be on this list - pointless muisc -agressivley vulgar and sexual verging on glorified assault - promoting a gross sexualisation and objectification of women.

makes me feel very sad

Look, I like classic hip-hop as much as the next guy, but I know shit when I smell it.

I will never listen to this again

I got a visceral response when I saw this on Spotify. It was crap I dodged when it came out. But I have an open mind now, im not a teenager and actually, some stuff I hated back then I have grown to like. But then theres this... Sounds like the songs I was writing.. immature disturbing and looking for a rise. an 808 and slow flow cant save this.

Yeee, no... I didn't want to listen to a podcast or an e-book.

No thanks

Great beats and melodies, but I couldn't get past the juvenile dick, rectum and poop references, not to mention opening at least 2 songs with porn recordings. Not for me, couldn't finish it.

Not for me

Not good

Pretentious psychedelic porno fever dream.

Hørte fem kedelige numre og gad ikke mere. Rap er ikke min genre.

I... I dont know what to feel. What did I just listen to? I inherently like the concept of an alien doctor murderer, but as a rap persona.... ehhhhh I don't know how it works out. It's a bit rapey isn't it? It's out there. It should probably stay out there, far, far away. A lot of the lyrics don't even make sense, they're just mashed up sci-fi-sounding concepts. Beats are pretty low key and dated, but fine. Theres a sci-fi feel to them thats kinda cool and interesting, but every song follows a pretty similar formula and the actual raps and rhythms become indistinguishable after a while. Also were the porno skits supposed to be funny? Cause they weren't really. But I'm not 12 so.... Standouts - maybe "3000" and I liked the instrumental back half of "Real Raw" and "Blue Flowers" if I had to pick. I just.... I dont want to hear this again. Any of it. It irked me more and more as I kept listening and the shtick became overbearing. The DJ was pretty slick, but that's the only redeeming feature I pulled out of my listen. Interesting concept but a total letdown. 1 star; I refuse to give it 2 just for cool "sci-fi noises"

I’ll admit I’m not the biggest hip hop fan… but this is everything I dislike about it all in one. Insipid is too good a word.

There are a couple of seconds here and there that make me go "ah, that's a cool sample". But it doesn't last long and it is embedded in tons of lyrics, beats and scratches that I don't care about.

Cringey, offensive, junenile...and yet I chucked a few times and didn't hate the beats/flow.

One of my objectives with this project was developing a deeper appreciation of hip hop and I have made some progress. However, this album made me rethink this objective. There is no element of anything that I appreciate about music here. I made it to the end, but doing so was painful. Instrumentation. I realize that I’m supposed to ignore the fact that there is none and focus on the production and beats. Even doing so, I found nothing compelling or interesting. Horrible. Vocalization. I know that this is rap and I should ignore the fact that there isn’t any singing. I like the idea of creating an album with fictional characters, however the story and juvenile humor here is just dumb. I have a rule of giving every album at least two listens. Often the second listen reveals something I’d previously missed. If this case, I can’t bring myself to do this. Apparently this album brings joy to others, which is great, but calling it music is a stretch.

Musically interesting. But lyrically, this album hates and degrades women. I see why he killed off his character later. Still. 1 star for the hate.

i hated this i don't like hip hop i don't like weird sex and sexualization what is going on here nothing about this was something I would listen to again 1/5

Yuck. I worked with a guy who showed up one day wearing an "I might not a gynecologist, but I'll take a look" t-shirt. This album is the musical equivalent of that. Don't need this.

Some of the beats were fun but not near enough to save the album Rating: 1.3

Ok, obviously a young man with a lot of imagination concerning the other sex. That is not so surprising. The surprising thing is that somehow this album found its way on this list. That is extremely surprising.

I understand it's legacy - and help create a sub-genre...but so so so much better 90's hip hop out there that this isn't. From Tribe to Jurassic 5 this aint it. Ramblings of a super horny 16 yr old boy into weird science fiction - idk, i'll pass.

Does not work. The sophomoric toilet and sex-related humor is neither clever nor creative. Don’t care to hear ever again. 1/5

Total talentless garbage.

Not excited; did not complete.

-1.5 million stars. W.T.E.F. The only possible way this could’ve influenced any other artist .. was to actually make good music? My ears hurt. I felt some of my brain cells actually pop. The people who voted this into existence should be beat out of it. This made me Almost not want to participate in this venture anymore…

Thoughts I had while listening to this album: - That intro was definitely used in Porn. - I need to wash my brain out with bleach. -GROSS - I guess that voicemail was kinda funny. - Did I just single-handedly kill feminism by listen to “A visit to the Gynecologist?” - *googles* how to permanently delete history from Spotify algorithm? This album is awful and the masters should be destroyed.

Not my thing

I judged a book by its cover and was right

Okay so this is the juvenile kind of rap. To be honest, I couldn't make it through more than three tracks. Childish and irritating.

245/1089 - What if Deltron 3030 but porn noises and crappy. I noticed a Bartok sample which was kinda cool in Blue Flowers.

I love hip hop, especially 90’s since I grew up with it but there has to be better options in the genre to expose people than this. There could be a list of 1001 hip hop albums to listen to and I still wouldn’t listen to this.

I can only imagine that whoever wrote this list of 1001 albums to hear before you die must have been having a laugh by including this. Kool Keith pretends to be a time-travelling homicidal alien gynecologist so that he can hide behind a “it’s not me saying this, I am just playing a character” defence for including samples from porn films and descriptions of surgical violence. The backing tracks are good, but the vocals and themes make it feel like a novelty album that wore its joke thin within the first couple of tracks.

I'll give it a 1. Felt like the lyrical, miracle, spiritual kind of rap.

Roskaa!

Olipahan taas kuraa.

Please make it stop!

I'm sorry...what? Dude's got issues.

I don't like that album, I don't hear anything interesting here. I guess it is just not my type of rap music. I just don't see anything interesting here. 1/5

This is something a white boy would swear up and down is legendary but once you finally listen to it, it feels like you're under psychological torture. Not my cup of tea, off beat and clunky.

Never heard of Dr O … will probably never hear him again.

Bored me to death.

No I’m so scared by this and I find it grating this is something a weird guy would like and I don’t like how sexual it is

Gross porn plot intro Does not get better. Needs to stay in the 90s and not return

Oof, just bad.

I’m betting this album wins out for the most mentions of the word rectum. While you ponder that, I’m gonna go dial 1-800-DOO DOO like Dr. O encourages, because that’s what this is: complete and utter shite.

WTF. Giving this a 1 for the track “A Visit to the Gynecologyst”. Just completely creepy weird.

This is some low quality entertainment.

i like rap but this is just terrible

i am so tired Y'know, I somehow expected more from a character that calls itself the "paramedic fetus of the east." Like, I'd heard so much about the shock raps on this thing, I was fully prepared to bring that "There's a difference between Eminem doing it and Bizarre doing it" line from my review of 'The Marshall Mathers LP'. 'Coz I really do not have a problem with "outdated shock raps" as long as they're done in a properly entertaining way, and as long we know we're not supposed to be rooting for the narrator. Eminem, for all the headaches the Slim Shady persona has brought him, has the wordplay and flows to pull it off. Dr. Octagon, on the other hand... Lemme tell you, the first time I was ever introduced to Dr. Octagon, it was through one of Rap Critic's "Worst Lyrics I've Ever Heard (This Month/Year)" videos. There was one where he spotlighted the song "Octagon Octagon", where the lyrical conceit was that everything was an octagon for some reason . . . and based off of that and the aforementioned "paramedic fetus of the east" descriptor, I thought it was just some random nobody using a character to be an edgy little shit. Imagine my surprise, then, when I find out it's actually an alter-ego of **Kool Keith**. Like, that's a name! I know that name! To some people he might be one of the GOATs, for all I know! I mean, I'd never heard any of his work besides a brief cameo on that Jurassic 5 album, but come on. People **like** him. So maybe this Dr. Octagon experiment will actually be better than that one song would make it seem...? Here's the thing. There's a difference between Eminem doing shock raps and Bizarre doing shock raps — and as it turns out, there's a difference between Bizarre doing them and **Dr. Octagon** doing them. Like, I spent the entire album waiting for something that would inspire so many offended reactions, but . . . but there's nothing! Besides maybe the gynecologist skit, there's nothing here even remotely shocking or offensive! Like, he says "doo doo" and "butt crack" a lot — is that it? Is that the shocking part? Where's the rape? Where's the murder? Where's the **anything** to provoke some kind of reaction? But, OK, it's not offensive. For most artists, that's a good thing. What about the rest of the album, then? Is there anything beyond its nonexistent shock value? I'll repeat: there's **nothing**. I mean, I am actually shocked by how overall **boring** this album is. It's to a point where, legitimately, during one of the songs in the back half, I nearly fell asleep. Which doesn't sound too unusual; even on albums I've liked there are times where I find myself wanting to close my eyes during a first listen. That's just a consequence of my AuDHD. But, no, this was different. All those other times, when my eyes closed, I could still focus on the music if I wanted to. With his album, I was legit fighting off conking out entirely. I straight up missed "Wild And Crazy" because I was trying to keep myself awake. The beats . . . gawd, they are so dry and nondescript. I've heard lowkey beats before, but none with as little going on as these. There's not a single memorable one in the lot. Even the one interlude that samples classical music or whatever, which I'd say is the best beat here, isn't particularly notable. Not even any of the scratching on, which I think is very good, can save these beats. Then there's Kool Keith himself as Dr. Octagon. And, like, as I always say with these rap albums, I am not a lyrics person. My brain being the way it is, I struggle to parse out meaning on the fly unless it's really obvious. But, let it never be said I don't make the effort to try anyway. I actively followed along with these lyrics, and lemme tell you, even with my chronic inability to understand metaphor . . . I had no idea what the fuck was going on on this album. In the middle of "No Awareness", I legit had to ask, out loud, "What the fuck are you going on about?" Like, cool you know big technical words — what does any of it mean? And this goes for every song on the album, really. He says a lot of shit, but none of it connects into anything meaningful. I was never able to conjure any specific imagery, or really even figure out what this Dr. Octagon character was supposed to be like beyond being "the paramedic fetus of the east." What was I supposed to take away from any of this? But here's a counter to that question: why should I give a shit about what any of this means when Kool Keith clearly couldn't care about **his own performance**? Y'know, some people just have rap voices; they were born to spit. JAY, Biggie, 2Pac, Eminem, Kendrick, Dre, Wayne . . . and way more. All those kinda guys, they rap, and they sound natural and like they care. Maybe Kool Keith sounds better on other records, but here? Oh, gawd, it sounds like he's just talking. And he happens to be doing it to a rhythm that matches the beat. And it's so **boring**. Like, even if he **was** spitting some 'Slim Shady LP' caliber shock raps, it wouldn't have any impact. He wouldn't be Freddy Kruger, like Slim Shady comes off to me; he's just be . . . **some guy**. Calling himself "the paramedic fetus of the east" for some reason. Seriously, if he was even slightly entertaining in his delivery I might not have had so much trouble trying to stay away. And I just gotta wonder, what is this album even doing here on this list? That question normally has no impact on what I think about an album, but seriously, I have to ask. 'Coz what's so special about what Kool Keith does here that it's something I just **had** to hear it before I died? What makes it a "classic" that I hafta "respect?" What exactly am I missing here? Are we really gonna pretend that this album is on the same level as records like 'The Blueprint', 'Illmatic', 'Born To Die', 'Me Against The World', 'The Chronic', or any other album like those? Does it really deserve to share space with those? And, like, if you wanted to put a Kool Keith album on here, why not just put a Kool Keith album on here? Why you gotta throw it over to his uninteresting OC? Even from the very little I heard of Kool Keith on that Jurassic 5 album, I know he can be a much more engaging MC; there has to be **something** better in his discography. Like, I don't care if this thing was his solo debut; he **has** to have done better, before or after. And if that's the reason why I'm considering checking out the rest of his work, then, well...! Look, I don't even know, man. This thing is largely just plain boring. And unless you're Kid Rock or scum like Kofi Olimede, I often find that I end up disliking those kinds of albums way more than the ones that're just straight "offensive." They're obviously far worse, but, damn, at least you're making me **feel something**. With Dr. Octagon over here — nada. Nothing. Not a damn thing. These sides are neither fantastic or glorious, and these angles sure as hell ain't awesome or stunning. I was honestly trying to figure out something I liked enough about this album to bump up the score — again, the scratching isn't bad, and I did sort of like "Halfaligatorsharkhalfman" and "1977" . . . but, no. No quarter. This felt like a waste of my time. And I really do hope that Kool Keith got better from here, 'coz if this is still representative of his sound . . . well, goodness. So gimme a damn octagon apple, eh? 'Coz I wanna octagon keep this octagon doctor the octagon hell away from me. (And also be octagon thankful I didn't write the whole octagon review like this! I had the octagon thought, believe me! But it wouldn't have been octagon worth it!)

0.01 Oooh look at me I’m so sick and twisted! I named my album Dr octagonecologyst and clipped part of a porno and talk about rape and rectums. Oooh I’m so twisted. Corny as fuck. Of all the great rap albums of all time and this garbage is on the list?

Skipped Girl Let Me Touch You, tuned out probably a majority of the rest of the album; premise of male gynecologist acting like that gave me the ick. It propagated negative stereotypes and objectifying women in a vulnerable position. Interesting beat to go with the songs, unfortunately I didn't like the lyrics, perspective, or much else.

Couldn’t do it

Nice beats but a rough one for me

If I can borrow one of the words used in this album: it's doodoo.

This was shit

Nothing redeeming about this album which was obvious as soon as the intro started.

The best thing that came out of this is the sublime rap group Commodore 64.

Sucks!

Bad 1/5

nowhere near as smart or innovative as it thinks it is

Another 90's rap album over an hour long. What did I do to deserve this one? I will give this album some credit. It tried something a bit weird and different that's for sure. It introduces the character of Dr. Octagon who is a homocidal, extraterrestrial, time traveling gynecologist and surgeon. Yes, really. Unfortunately my praise stops here. It's crap. I don't like to use words like that, I normally like to say it's my opinion, but no, this is rubbish and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. It bored me. The flow isn't great. The beats are low energy and it went on for what felt like 572 years. I didn't like anything about this. The track 'Visit To The Gynecologist' is absolutely bizarre, and ventures into creepy territory and that was the only standout because of how weird it was. Please stop giving me rap albums that fill the maximum length of a CD.

A tough listen, and honestly, I’d give it a lower rating if I could. This sounds pretty familiar... like my blender on a bad day. I have no idea how this clicks for some people as music. It’s chaotic and disjointed, leaving me more confused than entertained.

This album is on this list but not Liquid Swords or The Infamous. What the hell. Terrible rapping and the production is kinda trash too. 2/10.

Meh some psycho shit rap style

Após escutar a Intro e a primeira faixa eu percebi a terrível realidade que eu tinha mais 1 hora disso pra aguentar. Pra ser justo, a produção é boa, em momentos chega até a ser ótima, as batidas são interessantes e variadas. É fácil dizer que o incrível Dan The Automator é o que salva esse disco de ser um desastre total. Mas álbuns assim não são nem um pouco do meu agrado. Não gosto de skits e interludes, sempre acho eles perda de tempo. Não gosto de música que tenta ser engraçada (principalmente quando o humor empenhado é dolorosamente sem graça... piada com estupro e piada escatológica, parece que o cara tem 11 anos de idade). Também não gostei nem um pouco dos versos do Kool Keith, achei quase todos bem irritantes de ouvir por conta do flow inortodoxo que ele costuma usar. Pra dar um pouco de crédito, a arte da capa é muito boa e eu até curti a temática científica. É algo verdadeiramente diferente, não só no gênero, mas em música como um todo. E, vou reiterar, as batidas são boas e as vezes até ótimas. Mas não foi o suficiente pra salvar esse álbum. Eu estava tendo um dia ruim e ele só o piorou. 1/5

Pretty annoying experience for me. 1.5/5

Underground rap album? Seems pretty bad. Made it through the first 4 songs.

Bizarre.

Siis miten tää onnistuu yhdistämään kaikkia mun inhokkeja, avaruusrobotteja ja r*iskaamista jne. naisiin ikävästi suhtautumista ja ruumiillista ällöttävyyttä… Inhorealtioltani on vaikea kuunnella vakavasti.

Just, no. I gave up a little over half way through.

Rap, Eminem eta La Mala apartez, ez zait gustatzen.

A complete (and grody) waste of time

If you’re an edgy twelve year old who loves rhymes about bodily fluids and sexual assault, boy have I got an album for you.

Imagine meeting someone and they tell you this is their favorite album.

Though something new Im sure at the time, it was immature and gross

It certainly has the distinction of being the most sophomoric album I've ever heard. It doesn't even border on being juvenile, it marches over the line ridiculously. It could have been fine otherwise, but this is perhaps the most misplaced album on the list so far. The music itself really isn't bad, at least not abrasive.

I usually love concept albums, but was very disappointed by this one. It's just some guys perverted fantasy.

The beats are dope.However, let me quote one of the songs to describe the rapping. “Armed with seven rounds of space doo-doo pistols.” Doo-doo indeed. Is this the right list? I feel like this is 1001 albums to hear to make you want to die.

This is a very different beast from every record so far. Trip-hop rap. I feel more prepared for this than for some of the previous records, but not necessarily my comfort zone. intro is kinda wild but looking at the track names i'm not shocked first track is interesting, but not too out there, which i was expecting i'm feeling kinda the same thing as with moby's play. there are a lot of elements here that are interesting, but not too much that excites me. the chorus of earth people is really just not hitting. im starting to think some of these albums are historic and experimental for the time, but don't really hold up with the changing of the times. but hey, it's only been two tracks no awareness is the best track so far. still not blown away though. real raw is better too! i might have judged this too quickly. what are these interludes though, im curious about that blue flowers is great everything after that... what is with the sexual shit? like i dont care about sex in songs at all, but a visit to the gynecologyst? what the fuck man bear witness is kinda boring dr octagon is so edgy wow he's rapping about sex guys did you hear that? wow all those dated references, but get this, they're twisted!! oh my god i don't know, maybe all this was revolutionary at the time, but nowadays i can really to what makes this record interesting (some of the samples and instrumentals) but with better lyrics and production and with an actual interesting development. that being said girl let me touch you is one of the better tracks here man i get that you're horny and all but why all the panties mentions. and most of all, why have i heard a variation of "poo-poo" at least 4 times. once was too much. i'm destructive is fine next track is fine too. one of the better ones. i take it back actually. goes nowhere after 4 minutes. halfsharkalligatorhalfman was my last hope for this thing... i'm just waiting for it all to end at this point the random blue flowers revisit is a highlight in this dark and hopeless half end. makes me want to be less mean on my rating. but then i remember that dumbass roleplaying and i get mad all over again. also the revisit is not near as good as the original, why does it exist? waiting list is another one that has potential but why is it 5 minutes of the same samples and not so interesting lyrics? again, this shit just goes nowhere. god i'm relieved to reach the last track and finish this shit. can't wait to listen to anything else after this overall, this is probably the album i've enjoyed the least so far. there is a lot of potential here, but it just gets wasted on songs that go nowhere interesting and have shitty lyrics. i'm sure i missed a lot of smart lyrics, and a lot of good themes (less sure about that), but most of what i did catch was just a sorry attempt at being edgy. and even what there is of interest here was accomplished in much better ways by other records. i'm unsure about what rating to give here - my heart is saying 1 but my mind is saying 2. i'm hesitant to give it a 1 because there is something valuable here, and i did enjoy a few tracks. but as i'm writing this i just heard about bees flying around a rectum and i'm just..... so tired of all this.... when will it end..... maybe i'll give it a 2 for the few bright moments it has. but then again, a 1 is also available for a reason. and the many moments i didn't like (and downright hated) do outweight the few i liked... i'll think about it. i'll probably never listen to this again. even more, if i ever meet someone who says they like this album, i'll probably judge them for it. bye

Yet another obscure Hip-Hop/Rap album - this one is more pretentious than most.

It's not boring or repetitive, it's very boring and very repetitive. I listened carefully, but all the tracks sound the same, and 3 minutes would have been enough rather than boring me for 1 hour and 5 minutes...

Dr. Octagonecologyst? Dr. Octagon? WTF? Didn’t need to hear this except to check its box for this exercise.

Well this is an album I'd never heard of before. *Checks Wikipedia*. Oh, east coast rap. That doesn't augur well...what's more it's over an hour long. Playing this album through was a struggle. It was offensive, cliched and boring at various times.

1 - Una completa porquería!

Well they really committed to the concept. I can sort of imagine how one would find this amusing, I found it incredibly disturbing.

I almost thought this was a joke. This list apparently is cluttered with entries recommended by people who feel burdened to celebrate mediocrity, perhaps as penance toward some socially engineered guilt or shame. Anyway, this album is bad, especially for early ‘90s rap/hip hop.

I hated every second of this. By far the worst album yet and if I could give 0 stars I would.

Hilarious terrible flow and lyrics. And music.

Ab in die Tonne. Das ist die nächste Ladung Müll!

This should be on no one’s list, much less this one. Horrible.

I saw some say what I am about to say which is NOPE

Lord above, if anyone tells you this fool is good, or that this album is one of the best, most innovative rap albums of all time, they are lying straight to your face. This was awful. Dude is just some horny pervert who just says random crap every other line that makes no sense, and when it does, it's just disgusting. This was awful.

HOW is this on the list? the opening track is just gross, & disturbing, and several others are too. over an hour of repetitive beats & lyrics that are nothing but nonsense non-sequiturs (1/2 shark, 1/2 alligator, & 1/2 man). don't want to say any more since I've wasted over an hour listening to this pathetic album. absolute waste.

Ok 90’s beats but not ok enough to hold this up as something I’d be inclined to put on again.

Once again I could not fully complete this album. I can’t even put into words whatever I was forced to listen to but ooohhh boy never again please.

Sounds like an overeager teenager stole his older brother's recording equipment and spent a week making late night mostly lame recordings. Not a big fan of his rap style nor the stupid grade 7 lyrics. Jeez grow up a little. "No Awareness" isn't terrible, but overall this is bad. Couldn't finish. Best singular moment: Gnip-Gnop reference. 3/10 1 star.

Not for me.

This is just everything that I don't enjoy listening to

Pretty bad and really stupid. Production is cool, but can't get over the terrible lyrics

what if you used a lot of these great beats and instrumentation and didn't bury it under dumb shock rap

fucking woof, dude

listening to the intro like: ☹️ I felt a little redeemed on this one as I read the album blurb. "Dr. Octagon is an incompetent, time-traveling, possibly extraterrestrial surgeon who pretends to be a female gynecologist and molests his patients and nurses. The concept makes for some undeniably juvenile (and, arguably, hilarious) moments..." Well, juvenile, sure, let's keep reading - "Keith has since lost his taste for the album, tiring of hearing it compared favorably to his subsequent work, and complaining that the only new audience he gained was white." Honestly there's something very fitting about the idea that this album mostly brought underground hip-hop back to the attention of white people who had mostly moved on to different types of music after they stopped voyeuristically consuming the late 80's gangster rap (if this blurb is to be believed). It feels a lot like how popular Eminem got with his "my dark and twisted mind > : ]]] you can see it through my alter ego!!! it is HIM talking about doing these things" ....thing. Or maybe I'm just really boring and whiny and millenial for being mostly grossed out by this. Every time one song had a good groove and interesting enough lyrics it was like a guarantee the next one would be a creepy skit.

Really not my thing at all. Didn't enjoy it.

Strange, thematically consistent, but not good.

Sonically good but too crass to be classy.

por favor menos álbumes misóginos y más hechos por mujeres

"Earth people, I was born on Jupiter". I wish he stayed there.

Just the name is enough to turn me off. And yep. There’s better hip hop. 1 star. Shouldn’t be here.

The Good: In case we get sick, there will be a doctor in the house! The Bad: this only applies if you get sick in your private parts… The Ugly: I’m not a girl… What in the actual FUCK!!!!!?????????!!?!?!?!??!?!??!? How many times does a rapper from the ‘90s have to mention Shakespeare as this will give his “poetry” more meaning? When will the NON OBVIOUS ABUSE of a thesaurus be rewarded? Why my personal abuse of many CAPS and !@!!!!, well, glad you asked… The last 7 albums, SEVEN albums, that I’ve had the DISPLEASURE of finding on this list has contained only 1 3*, 2 2*, which means 4 1*… and with this utter piece of useless TRASH that makes 5 1* Then again, I don’t like hip hop, nor really care for country, and those were the main genres I was forced to listen to… Here’s to tomorrow ROCKIN’ my socks off PLEASE 1*

Wasn’t a big fan

The opening sex scene is an immediate skip from me dawg. 1/5 did not finish

Langweilig, aber nicht nur das: Das Album und die Songs widerstreben mir oder ich strebe mich, die Musik darin zu hören oder überhaupt zu erkennen. Zuerst zum „Langweilig“: Dr. Octagon probiert nicht viel und die Beats sind sehr starr und wandeln sich kaum. In jedem Song hat es sehr viele Wiederholungen im gleichen Beat, das finde ich langweilig. Keinerlei Harmonien, nur einzelne Basslines oder Stimmen, die sich x-fach genau gleich wiederholen. Nur in Blue Flowers passiert was, das klingt am Anfang vielversprechend, ist dann aber doch sehr repetitiv. Jetzt zum Widerstreben: Ich denke, die Lyrics sind der Kern dieser Art von Musik, und das liegt mir nicht. Mir sagt Musik nur etwas, wenn mich die Harmonien und Rhythmen fesseln und diese den Text oder ein Gefühl so vermitteln, dass es mich trifft. Ich höre nicht von selbst auf die Lyrics, vor allem nicht, wenn ich die Musik drumherum langweilig, nicht ansprechend und uninteressant finde. Ich habe mich angestrengt, den Lyrics des Albums zuzuhören, aber sie sagen mir nichts. Abgesehen von der schieren Menge, mit der man bombardiert wird, und von Verweisen, die ich nicht verstehe, widern mich die Lyrics oft an: Zu viel explicit content, ich finde die Lyrics teilweise patriarchal und beinahe durchgehend unangenehm obszön. Vielleicht hat Dr. Octagon bei mir genau das erreicht, was er wollte: Ekel, Widerstreben, Wut. Er hat provoziert, das ist ihm gelungen. Aber wofür? Ich persönlich bin vor lauter Provokation, Obszönität und uninteressanter Musik nicht gewillt, zuzuhören. Bei mir kommt keine wichtige Message an. Ich verharre in Unverständnis.

Silly. No list of must listen to albums needs to include this.

Borderline unlistenable.

Ehkä seassa on jotain hienoja lyriikoita, mut päällimäisenä tuntuu aika genitaaliselta levy yleisesti. ykkösen ja kakkosen välillä (levyn teemaan sopivasti). kiinnostava faktoidi: prodigyn smack my bitch up samplaa tätä äijää (ei tosin tältä levyltä).

Got about halfway through this album and realized I didn't like a single song yet. I skipped ahead and listened to about a minute of each song, and nothing was great or amazing. Sorry, this is not an album I must before I die. It's not great. 1/5

Terrifying

cheesy and totally dated

Welp. This, from the Wikipedia article, should tell you all you need to know about how I feel about this album -- "Dr. Octagon is an extraterrestrial surgeon from Jupiter who uses space technology and primitive tools to perform medical procedures on his patients, some of whom die as he conducts his rounds, while others are murdered by his careless, barbaric acts. Octagon also practices as an orthopaedic gynaecologist and seduces and engages in sexual intercourse with his female patients and nurses." Also this album is obsessed with the word "rectum"

American shit

Nee. Zu unruhig für mich.

Als het internet zou bestaan zouden zij zo gepest worden dat dit nooit uit zou komen. Het is echt niet goed, en uit rancune geef ik het een 1 ipv 2 omdat dit een plek inpikt van zo veel betere artiesten in dat weirdo sci fi cartoonige hoekje die hier wél in horen

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Subject matter is shit, vocals are shit, the beats are...fine, theres one okay song but I hated alot of this, I then navigated to the Wikipedia and found out that our Doctor is a actually homicidal, extraterrestrial, time-traveling gynecologist and surgeon and I hate it even more because of this, it does explain the opening track being noises from a porn film. Fuck this noise

Childish lyrics / how is this in the top 1,001 albums

Ganz furchtbar.

The only comedic part of this that I found funny was his flow. I can only guess what the lyrics are, but if they are the same old "throw in as many edgy bars as possible to shock somebody's grandma", then I didn't lose much

Weird.

Not my thing. This came immediately after I had listened to AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted, which only made it worse. The flow is clunky in comparison. The lyrics aren't doing anything for me - he's seriously out here making pee pee doo doo jokes. Also this album is LONG.

Another album that should have never made the listing.

Eh did not like the bathroom humor

This shit is NOT it 😭

Ok. So far I haven't found any hip hop album that I liked. They're all so bad. I had hopes for this one when I saw the cover, it's a cool image. Pressed play and all my hopes were immediately shot. This is so much garbage. Why the hell is this on the list of albums I need to hear? I mean even though hip hop is not my taste, I understand why all the hip hop records I've come across so far are on the list, but this? It's just 100% terrible and has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. The lyrics literally sound like a 7-year-old wrote them. Or maybe the kid we all knew in high school that either thought it was funny to have a 7-year-old sense or humor or just never grew out of it for some reason. Either way this record is trash and should be forgotten so future historians don't accidentally come across it thousands of years from now an judge us by it. “No wonder they died out” they’ll all say. 0/5

The “Doctor” performed an experiment that failed.

Starts with a sex skit. Doesn't really improve from there.

Most tracks seem to be about nothing, and the beats are same-y. A concept album really needs more than just a vague idea.

Was not good at all.

Terrifying.

Yeah ok, I get it.... wibbedy scribbedy wack wacka wibbedy wack, *spit lyrics* bang head* low pants * high gimmicks. Very high shock value, no real musicality. I'm disgusted by the gynecologist song. More misogyny. Would like to hear - ripping the penis open and inserting things inside it- version of this.

No thanks

I can kinda see what they were trying to do here… it’s just not for me

Super weird. First song was porn. Some of the songs are just repeating the title of the song or a one-sentence phrase over a repetitive beat. I like a few of the songs but I would never buy this album.

Another one for the Hip-Hop pile. 1/5

Beats sucked, hooks were bad, rap was decent. this was an hour long grind.

Awful. Tried to listen but couldn’t get through this.

Wtf is this?

I'm not really familiar with the overall rap scene, but I know this isn't typical. I really just don't know what to make of it. If you told me these were songs written when Dr. Octagon was, what, 8 or 9? It would make total sense. There is something there, and it's bizarrely surreal, but it's also obsessed with the things kids get obsessed with when they learn about sex, but haven't hit puberty yet. I also vaguely wonder if he was committed to a psych ward for a while. Also, was Andre 3000 a hit of this album as a kid or something? Maybe the year 3000 just fits well into rap lyrics? This album definitely encourage my tendency to have random thoughts float in my head.

So I usually have a few thoughts on just about every album, but “Dr. Octogoncologyst” – not so much… It’s basically the same, on long musical track throughout – interlaced with some pre-recorded loop shit, where the artist tried to work the word “rectum” into just about every track… Dreadful effort, produced by someone with the sensibilities of the 5th grade boy… Ugh…

Spotify, please bring back the "Exclude from taste profile" option EXPEDITIOUSLY

Maybe this doesn’t deserve a 1 but I really did not have fun trudging through this

This was atrocious

der sound ist gut, aber sonst?! eh ja.

Wow, another rap album where all the tracks and interludes are about how much sex the rapper haves. Exhilarating

can't even

I really don't like to be a hater, but sometimes I have to. This whole thing felt like a 30 Rock bit, he kind of sounds like Tracy Jordan and I was just waiting for him to break out with "Werewolf Bar Mitzvah" at some point. That was the vibe of this thing. Like listen to "Halfsharkalligatorhalfman" and tell me this exact thing couldn't have been some Liz Lemon-Tracy Jordan bit in 30 Rock. I don't have a ton to say about this, but it's just so random that it's hard to even wrap my head around. I'm not exactly sure who this is for, but I guess someone is into it. It sounds like someone that's either trying to be a little too edgy and it falls flat, or someone that is legitimately crazy. Hilariously, the artist, Kool Keith aka Dr. Octagon, apparently has since dismissed the album saying that "it unfairly overshadows his later work, and that the only new audience it attracted was white". I don't know, not me, it was too weird. Favorite song: Blue Flowers Other: Halfsharkalligatorhalfman 6/15/24

What a wackadoo concept. Completely ridiculous lyrics, like this guy is not all there. The parts of it that are coherent are just so wrong, on levels. Musically, I didn't hate it. But on the whole, I can't bring myself to anything higher than a 1 after that intro.

Slightly different childish skits and sexist lyrics to the standard hip hop. Still shit

Immature concept in every respect. Alice Cooper: Welcome to My Nightmare succeeds where this one fails.

How does only one of these tracks get an explicit tag?

This felt like an hour and five minutes of Tracey Morgan making unfunny sex jokes. Beats were ok.

what is this crap... couldn't stand it after 3 tracks

This list has terrible taste in hip hop.

Moraaliton..m

Like many of my early relationships, this album was childish and messy. At least I can look back on those relationships with some semblance of joy; this album I would rather forget.

No thank you

The Worst !!!

Production is ok, but honestly this was kinda corny. I probably would have loved this when I was a teenager though …

in some way it's iconic, but it objectively sucks

No bueno

Glad that is experience is over.

Bot my type

- - wow - what trash. Open mind or not - the quality is garbage. It's as if it was produced of self satisfaction to say \" Yo - I did a record, bitch!\" Move on... Only good thing is all of the songs are short.

Old school, scratchin' rap. Plenty of toilet humor and cheap double entendre. Rap or not, still .... meh.

About as bad as it gets.

I got 10 songs in and had to stop at a "A Visit To The Gynecologyst". I really tried to give this album a shot but it's trash. There's a bit of potential here but it's totally undone but the 90s rap crudeness and unnecessary vulgarity. 2/10 (1/5)

¿ nope

Not a rap fan

The beats and samples are intereting. The mood varies from Prince to Rage Against the Machine. But, in reality, I'd simply listren to prince or Rage against the Machine. Not terible but not really my thing.

I'm not a fan of rap, but I am a fan of trying everything on this project with an open mind, so looking at the track listing I was excited to see a rap album where every song didn't have the explicit filter next to it. Boy, how did all these songs dodge the NSFW filter? The first "song" is a porn scene with someone that sounds remarkably like Arnie. There's another porn scene in the middle of the album and the rest of it is full of doctor-themed inuendo and weak rhymes. No idea how this made it to the top 1001 albums.

Det är så man blir både ledsen och förbannad på en gång! Mest ledsen.... Och förbannad!

No thank you.

Gafst upp á miðri leið, ekki gott.

Shit like this is what gives misogyny a bad name.

This didn't age well. Also one of the rappers sounds like Tracy Morgan which made the whole thing sound like a bad SNL skit.

I really hated this. Not too many albums that I've wanted to turn off, but add this one to the list. Alternated between bored and annoyed the entire album.

Really ???? With so much great MUSIC out there what is the obsession with rap ???? 1*

I don't know how I feel about this. There's definitely a cool sound here that I can get in to, but nothing really grabs me. The lyrical flow is really solid and it's bizarre in a good way, but just isn't for me

Me podría morir sin escuchar esto.

Horrible, worse than horrible

Meh, not great. Boring

This was a chore to listen to. I didn't find it doing anything really interesting other than moral shock stuff. god that stunk

I liked the beats (sucker for trip hop), but even that couldn’t redeem this album. Far too many uses of “rectum” 🤮

Boring now a days

I want to like this album so bad but the lyrics are just so mediocre and gross at times. I love the beats and the idea is so cool. Its just when there's 2 min of record scratching or sexualizing a gynecologist visit? Like that's so weird! When have you ever heard someone sexualize a colonoscopy? Like what does that have to do with being a mad scientist? I know this is a debut album so I'm still giving credit the cover is pretty cool. Honestly skipped multiple tracks due to the lyrics being to uncomfortable. Horrible start to the 2024 album review list.

I guess the editors wanted to put an "alternative rap" album in the book. This album is not as interesting as Dr. Octagon may think it is. No clue why this album is in the book.

First listen Saved 2/20 Top track: I'm Destructive

Haha funny rap

This is just another example of me really not enjoying hip hop. It’s so bad. Maybe in terms of hip hop music this is actually incredible, but I have heard very little hip hop that I’ve liked. Wanted to give up half way through but I kept going. Not many tracks I can say I enjoyed, and some (Earth People, how is that one of the most streamed on the album?!) were just straight up annoying to listen to. What a waste of time this was. 2/10 Top 1: 1. No Awareness

Way too off-kilter for my taste.

AJ: read the wiki. Hard pass.

Skits...Repetitive...Meh, not for me. It is also very crass, I would not feel comfortable playing this in public. I did like "Halfsharkalligatorhalfman" though.

“A Visit to the Gynecologist” ummm WTF no thanks.

I did not enjoy this.

Yeah, give this a wide berth! I had to check whether ‘Kool Keith’ was a 12 year old boy, in which case some of it would have been impressive, but sadly not.

Wasn’t really a fan. There were some okay beats but the lyrics were kind of weird. Maybe I just didn’t get it

Too long; didn't care. Doesn't need to be on this list. Don't know why it is.

Couldn’t finish this. What a waste of one of the few hip hop slots here. Never heard of this this guy before and with good reason.

Really truly awful

couldn't finish it, it sucked

1. Absolutely not.

Absolutely horrendous

I couldn’t even finish it that’s how terrible it was. I stopped after visit to the gynaecologist it’s basically a song about a dude pretending to be a woman doctor so he can look at a girls vagina. He gives her exercises to do to loosen it and then after he reveals that he’s a man and obviously she freaks out. The other songs were also just the worst music I’ve heard in a long time. Terrible album don’t listen to it

- incredibly sexual - uncomfortable at points - uses big words and phrases to sound smart, but he’s just listing them - the only saving grace is the beats, but that’s not enough

I always listen to albums all the way through but I couldn’t for this one. It’s just off putting and the intro was so weird

Can I stop listening to this? This is boring at best and disgusting at worst. Nothing here earns that musical quality seal to excuse some of the things said on here, and while I know that's the point, that doesn't mean I want to listen to it. Yes, the scratching and some of the beats are rarely good, but any album that thinks using Canon in D as a back beat is clever is no musical genius in my eyes. I'm only halfway through this and already want to stop, and that's rare for an album, even my one stars. After finishing it (although I did skip a good chunk of the songs once I figured out he was just gonna be rapping about rectums once again) I can confirm this is the lowest of the low. This may be my least favorite album so far, and if not, it's still terrible.

Laughable, belongs on the list of 1001 albums that were released for no apparent reason.

Awful, Actual Garbage

I felt violated. It was either a shitty song, softcore porn, or both.

Why are the worst albums always the longest? There's an attempt at making some sort of themed narrative throughline here, but no effort is put into making any of the beats or bars interesting. Every musical aspect of the LP feels phoned in and tired, and that's exactly how I felt as a result of listening.

What the heck was this? Hot garbage. Maybe it's an example of the first cringy annoying rap album? Did it rhyme? Sure. Was it good? No.

Lazy beats. Some corny bars even for the 90s. Flows are nice which compensate for some of the lack-luster rhymes but fail to save the album as a whole. Pretty disturbing. Favorite song: I’m Destructive

Terrible

Jesus, this album is gross. Don't really want to hear about a gynecologyst making sexual advances towards his patients... The music isn't really that good either. It's not absolute horrible, like many of my other 1 stars, but there's nothing interesting happening, and the flow isn't much to write home about for a majority of the album. Some of the sounds present on the album aren't pleasant on the ears. The scratches can be nice, I suppose. I guess the most notable thing about this album is how horny it can get, but it gets a bit uncomfortable. The humour didn't make me laugh, so that probably affected my enjoyment of this album. If I had a quarter for every time I heard the words "butt crack" and "rectum" on this album, I'd have a decent amount of quarters on my hands. I'm just glad it's over. Not a good way to have spent an hour of my life. My favourite song was Blue Flowers, but I didn't really like anything on here.

Angry rap.

Damn, how old is this guy anyways, 12 yrs old? Gimmicky, sophomoric and crude lyrics. The intro that sounds like its from a porn flick made me roll my eyes but the worst song is I got to tell you which drops infantile bombs referring to doo doo and pee pee with Pachelbel's Canon in the background (ie., Classical music for people who don't know shit about Classical music). Also, the cover and name of the album sucks.

1 star

Awful.

Vibe of this album summed up in one word is “Weird” which I usually quite enjoy… But I hated this. And it’s an hour in length, so basically torture. Only positive comment I really have is that it was certainly a unique concept! Terrible execution. I didn’t enjoy his flow or voice, though some of the beats were fine. Lyrics were undeniably unique, but the interesting lyrical moments were undermined by some of the excruciatingly repetitive choruses (if you can call them that…) and the juvenile topics/jokes. It did improve as it went on, from the first 5 songs I honestly thought it was the worst album I’d ever heard but by the end I was less horrified. Best tracks (i.e. vaguely bearable): Blue Flowers, Bear Witness, Dr Octagon, Technical Difficulties Worst tracks: Intro (gross), 3000, I Got To Tell You (shockingly irritating for an interlude), Earth People, No Awareness (one of the worst songs I’ve ever forced myself to sit through), Girl Let Me Touch You (creepy), 1977

Stupid

Absoluut niet mijn ding. Hier zijn al veel betere rapalbums gepasseerd

pretty childish and boring album, can't believe this is here and animals by Pink Floyd isn't

Honestly, this isn't the worst rap we've had from this list so far. Not by a long shot. So I guess it merits at least 1.5 stars. However, I'm still rounding it down. I really don't like rap and this album isn't doing anything to change my mind about that.

1996: Blue Flowers