Youth And Young Manhood

"Youth & Young Manhood" is the debut album by American rock band Kings of Leon. The Wiki-listed genres of garage rock revival and Southern rock are appropriate at this stage of their career. The band is composed of three brothers and a cousin (all with the last name Followill). They released an EP "Holy Roller Novacaine" in 2002 which included four songs songs which would be on their debut. The album had generally positive reviews. Commercially, it did much better in the UK reaching #3 while only hitting #113 in the US. The album starts out with a garage-rock guitar-riff intro on "Red Morning." This is definitely garage rock, almost purposely sloppy and a cowbell too. A song about hookers. This is a good start. They crank the speed up on "Wasted Time." A faster version the Black Crowes. Guitar slashes and lead singer Caleb Followill almost rappin' as he tries to keep up with the speed. He's on to her and she's wasted her time trying to get him. "California Watching" is the most melodic song on the album. A pounding bass and some nice backing vocals...that's the first song that I've heard any. The second single released "Molly's Chamber" showcases the band at their most straight-forward rock and roll. It clocks in a little over two minutes. I interpreted the lyrics as the effects of the drug moly on the brain. The band goes with a bluesy stomp in "Holy Roller Novacaine." A screeching guitar solo and they bring in the ever-reliable handclaps. My favorite lyrics on the album as they tell the story of a priest who uses his powers to seduce women. I'm still trying to come to terms with the fact that there are two King of Leon albums in this 1,001??? On the positive side, I like this garage-rock, punk, Southern rock, bluesy and raw version of the band relative to the pop-rock alternative act that they would become. At times, they reminded me of the Black Crowes, Allman Brothers and the White Stripes. I guess I live in a cave with the lyrics and experiences that this upper teens-early 20's group were able to come up with - hookers, cocaine, moly, abusive priests and vast experiences in relationships. I do realize that they were assisted in the writing but I now have to believe that the movie "Kids" and tv show "Euphoria" depict real teenager scenes. Overall, this album was OK and a good start to their musical journey.

Great album. I haven't returned to it for a while and I'd forgotten how good it is. Not as good as Aha Shake Heartbreak, but still far better than anything else they have produced since. There was an intensity and a rawness to their sound that they lost when they became more polished (and when they began to sound more and more like a Strokes tribute act).

Fine.

Brimming with youth

This is like if the Strokes didn't know how to write memorable hooks and also if you hard plagiarized Bob Dylan.

A really fun, raw, energetic debut from what would become the biggest band in the world for a minute. I prefer this version of KoL to their Sex on Fire high points, but they’re a good band with an interesting story. As the kid of a Baptist preacher myself, I’ve always felt a connection to the members of this band and have often wondered what my life had been like if pursued music and had a successful rock band like this. I don’t know if I would have survived like they barely have.

Meh

No private session used for Spotify. I have this CD somewhere, used to listen to this album a lot while on road trips or getting pumped up at the gym. Note to self, listen to this album more. This album just rocks.

I just get such a skeevy vibe from these guys

my third foray into kings of leon during this project and i still do not really get it. every once in a while there is a song i enjoy, like the first track, 'red morning light' but mostly i am nonplussed by their music. i think out of the three i've listened to so far, this one is the most consistent and the one i like the best. felt more garage rock than the other ones, which is more up my alley than the more generic 00s rock they got into. still, not really my thing.

Возможно я был настроен на абсолютное гавно, когда увидел название группы. Но чесслово, это было болезненно. И я из тех людей, что любят мужиков с надоедливыми голосами... Лучшая песня - California Waiting.

like the hillbilly strokes

Right I'll get this out the way now, I don't like Kings of Leon and think of them in a similar way as Coldplay, they do one pretty good song (closer) because it was a completely different sound for them....so I don't like this album, it's generic British indie from 2003 and I struggled to listen to all of it, 2 because it's not Serge

absolute heater

Listened Before? N I only knew of these guys from their very, very, very overplayed hits. This album has none of them. It's a breath of fresh air and a very solid album. I love the throwback feel of it. It's like White Stripes meets Skynrd. Really enjoyed this record. Added to Library? Y Songs added to playlist: Red Morning Light

Pretty enjoyable. Low 8.

Enjoyable 3.5

This album didn’t do much for me, but I didn’t necessarily think it was bad. I feel like this album is one that people would rave about, but I just wouldn’t really get. I loved Talihina Sky, and I think the album was worth listening to if only to have just discovered that song.

This was okay. It felt like a solid throwback to the 70s while still being fresh. That being said, it's not something I see coming back to.

I could do without the...whiny yelling? I'm not sure how to describe the occasional shitty vocals on here. Otherwise this was some pretty good alt rock. Not what I expected from a band that I know from "Use Somebody." I won't come back to this, but I didn't mind listening to it. 3.4

No sir, I did not care much for this.

not remarkable, but good stuff

The best way to describe Kings of Leon is rock and roll

Mediocre album

If this had come out in the 70s I would have thought it was awesome. It's fine, but we've kinda heard it before. Instead of trying to be gritty, you could actually just be gritty. 3 stars for Genius and Dusty

Maybe I‘m boring, maybe I‘m nostalgic but this one is awesome! Never heard it before but it got the typical 2000s rock sound and is completely different to the KOL that became mainstream.

nouveau-garage rock that didn't make much of an impression

I used to own a physical copy of this back when it came out, actually. Then I realised I also owned some Strokes, some White Stripes, and very deliberately didn't own any Lynyrd Skynyrd. I also realised how incredibly annoying the singer's voice is after a short while. Later still they put out stuff I legitimately detest. So... This gets a 2 because I need to be able to go lower in case any other of their albums come up.

Pretty good.

Doesn't seem special to me. Nothing here that I haven't heard before. Was feeling 2 stars but I did like the last track quite a bit. So 3 stars.

This is like if the Strokes and that one band Jet made a subpar group together and recorded an album while drunk. I really can't stand the singer's voice and cadence but the guitar, drums, and bass are all fine. The songs are really generic, though the faster ones are better. I don't know why this album is on here; it's pretty boring radio rock from the early 2000's. It's ok I guess. I would give it a 2.5.

This album is fine. If you compare it to Sex is on Fire or Use Somebody in their later discographies you will be disappointed. There are no real standouts on the album which is why (I'm assuming) I hadn't heard any singles before the two standout hits. All in all enjoyable with some strange vocal decisions with some easy guitar.

Turns out I like older Kings of Leon like this album and Aha Shake Heartbreak. Maybe not something I'll listen to often. The singer's drawl sometimes is distracting, but it fits the style well.

So weird how boring this is compared to their follow-up. I felt like all the songs sounded pretty much the same. It wasn't bad but it wasn't especially good either. 2.5/5

Nah. C-

Meh.

Really not feeling this. Millennial blues seems to retain all of the misogyny of midcentury blues with none of the soul.

Nice to have a bit of country/rockabilly influence in indie music of this era, if its there, I don't often notice it.

Despite the popular opinion, I definitely think that Kings of Leon got a lot better with time. This album is so boring and generic, but once they reached Only By the Night, that album is a soft rock masterpiece.

Meh.

Not awful, but it drags on.

I thought I liked Kings of Leon, but I guess I never heard this record before.

It's ok

Good album, really liked all of it.

This is terrible. I don’t know why this terrible band has multiple albums on the list. The lead vocals are painful to listen to, and the lyrics are shallow and grating. 1

I do like early Kings of Leon, but I don’t think we need both this and their superior 2nd album on the list. But this album is already in my rotation, so I’ll give it a 3 anyway

A wise old sound engineer once told me there are two things a great album can be made of. Great songs or great memories. And sometimes both. Well, the songs on Youth & Young Manhood are regularly great (Dusty, Trani, Holy Roller Novocaine, Red Morning Light…) but the memories are what make this an easy 5 for me. I went to university in 2002 believing nightclubs to be somewhere you went reluctantly so as not to be the only one home on a Saturday night, danced ironically to bad house music and tried desperately not to waste all your CD money for the month on sickly alcopops or horrible lager. I left in 2005 with great memories of nights at Fuzz Club and the Leadmill spent in my ripped jeans, t-shirt and tie, listening to great indie rock’n’roll and drinking (horrible AND sickly - but I didn’t care) snakebite til the early hours. It only takes the opening chords of Molly’s Chambers to transport me back. Yes, I grew out of those days around the time KoL grew out of them too and became a shit U2 tribute act without the tunes. But in those heady days of my own youth and young manhood, this was a firm favourite.

eh, nah

4.0

Ja, gut für einen Tempolauf.

Hmmm, I think I've seen that young boys have been removed from later editions of the book. I can remember in real time as an adult when these guys were the saviors/flag carriers of rock or something, but even then that rang hollow to me. WOuld ordinarily be a 3 but relative to the last two I can't

gött sound om det. däremot stör jag mig lite på hur sångaren uttalar ord, det känns som han gör sig till otroligt mycket.

No way we have another kings of Leon this is insane!! Now that I’ve listened it’s indeed insane. Another unnecessary album especially after we have gotten at least two others. KoL is worth that one album but not this many.

Genuinely what the fuck? Is the guy who made this list the uncle of someone in the Kings of Leon? No one on God's green earth NEEDS to listen to this many albums from this band. Their big one, fine, I understand. A second album, whoa, somebody's a fan. THAT one I said was unnecessary. Then we get a third? Leave us alone. Favorite tracks: Red Morning Light, California Waiting. Album art: Ghostly heads. Don't give a shit, I'm just mad. 2/5

Early Kings of Leon klinken inderdaad als de Honky-tonk Strokes, zoals meerdere mensen in de reviews ook opmerkten. Het is in ieder geval een testament aan de invloed van dat debuutalbum van de ultieme indie rockers uit New York, maar niet zo zeer een compliment voor de inventiviteit van de Kings of Leon. Ze waren duidelijk nog aan het zoeken naar hun eigen sound. Het zijn energieke garage rock songs die we kennen van tijdgenoten, maar dan met een stem die me na twee nummers al tegen gaat staan. Het is geen stem die gemaakt is voor deze muziek, en om dat te maskeren schreeuwt hij soms maar wat. Maar sommige songs geven wel echt een unieke 'southern charm' aan het garage rock genre. 'Joe's Head' is een redneck editie van een ''Is This It'' take, 'Dusty' is een nog zuidelijker klinkende White Stripes song, en de rustige country rock in 'Talihina Sky' laat horen waar bands uit Nashville gewoon eigenlijk het beste in zijn. Schoenmaker blijf bij je leest. En een ander lichtpuntje is natuurlijk de opener, die instant nostalgie oproept. Over het algemeen een beetje een ongemakkelijke plaat, maar de sterke momenten zijn niet over het hoofd te zien. 6/10 Highlights: Red Morning Light Joe's Head Talihina Sky

Alsof ik 20 jaar na dato FIFA 2004 weer opstart knalt Red Morning Light de nostalgie mijn oren in. De riff is toch wel erg lekker en de drummer lijkt op wat potten en pannen de rest van de band op te zwepen. Lekker rommelig, rechtstreeks uit een Nashville garage. Youth and Young Manhood doet denken aan de rammelende Indie Rock van the Strokes en Franz Ferdinand. Maar Kings of Leon toont ook hier weer aan, de beste zeroes indie-rock komt niet uit de USA maar uit de UK. De mix indie/garage met de country/southern/swamp is typisch KoL maar ook een tikkie ongemakkelijk. De stem van Followill is -hoe herkenbaar dan ook- heel Amerikaans en soms ook wat irritant (Joe's Head). Op andere platen vind ik dat deze beter uit de verf komt. Conclusie: Youth and Young Manhood rammelt heerlijk, en dat past super goed bij de begin zeroes. Het is knap dat de band is uitgegroeid tot stadion-headliner. Op deze plaat klinkt het net te vaak ongemakkelijk, maar is het onderliggende niveau best aardig. 7/10 Highlights Red Morning Light (zin in FIFA) Spiral Staircase Molly's Chambers

The band album pics on Spotify had me howling. Started strong with red morning light. Then I got bored till California waiting. Fine

I dunno man. I really dig these jams and I like his voice. Going with a 3.6…

I enjoyed this. It’s like a more raw version of “Only By the Night”.

Just ok

This is like if the Strokes didn't know how to write memorable hooks and also if you hard plagiarized Bob Dylan. F

Why so much Kings of Leon on the list?

Post strokes garage rock goes southern rock. Energetic and raw. The bombast of their later work is present if you listen for it. A fun record.

Like this album. Raw and fast beats. Good songs in this album.

This was ok.

All the cool kids seem to love Kings of Leon. I’ve never been into them. No particular reason. I haven’t been avoiding them. I just didn’t make it a point to ever listen to them. Until today. The cool kids were on to something, and I’ve been missing out. This album is fantastic from start to finish. Even if it’s not terribly original. https://open.substack.com/pub/richcain/p/project-1001-youth-and-young-manhood?r=4ztyq&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true

Not bad but not really for me. Kind of reminds me of Sonic Youth in some ways. I don't think that I would go out of my way to listen to this again.

Klassisk rock, ganske udmærket,

The last two were okay, but I was expecting more of a Sex on Fire vibe.

Molly’s Chambers is a great tune. Rest is just okay.

Did not think I would enjoy this one, but someone described this as being Southern Strokes, which is fitting. 4 stars.

I’m really surprised to find so many Kings Of Leon albums that are considered essential. Before this review project, I always thought they were just some average indie rock band but with a bad singer. Now that I’ve listened to more, I’ve realised that sometimes books can indeed be judged by their covers as I was pretty much right. I will say that this is probably the better Kings Of Leon album out of the ones I’ve heard, and Molly’s Chambers is genuinely good, but I still doubt I’ll be seeking this album out again.

Oh no, I don't like it. Rather lame and tame, plodding pop, rock, whatever. OK, if you like it, I don't like the album. But many people seem to have liked it, at least according to the Wikipedia article. I can't and don't want to judge anything 'technical', I don't know enough about that. My ratings are more based on the emotional aspects and their effect on me. Not a album I would buy or ever listen to again. Too bad, cool band name. But if that really falls into the same category, where are The Dead Weather, The Black Keys, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club? That can't be right. Hey and Eagles of Death Metal, I love all that stuff. I'm confused

7/10

Is it my speakers or is he singing out of key? Better than expected.

Mid rock. The singer can't enunciate for shit. I liked some songs where they sounded a bit like Jet. Stand-out: Happy Alone

Decent album. Kings of Leon’s early stuff I have enjoyed a little bit just with how raw and unpolished it is and this falls right into place there. 7/10

Still my favourite Kings of Leon album. Love the rawness, the amateurishness of the vocals, the cowpunk feel. Reminds me of Jason and the Scorchers. This is KofL before they went all arena rock. 4 stars

Not as bad as the other one but just not my thing at all

Joe's Head is their best song

Pretty fun, but not too memorable

It's telling that the catchiest song here seems like a cover.

I guess Kate Moss liked this

Man, this guy's voice stinks. I mean, it certainly has a draw (or should I say drawl) to it that makes me keep listening, but only in a "can't look away from a car crash," sort of way. That being said, I still enjoyed my time here. I find this to be more monotonous than what I remember of Aha Shake Heartbreak, and the sound of garage rock revival bands I do like is absent more than that album, too, but there is just enough rocking southern anthems to keep me engaged, and I quite like the softer, almost folksier stuff, even if they are still going in too hard sometimes. A different singer and some better, more understandable lyrics and I think this band would've been just as critically liked as commercially. Not LOVED, just liked.

This is actually quite good- assured in execution and distinct in sound.

Not for me

I expected to enjoy this one more. It's pretty mid. 3/5

Nope

another chunky album from a not yet revived area of history - some very good songs on here

Kings Of Leon are one of my favourite bands. I’m not sure I’ve ever told anyone that. They were one of the first bands that I discovered on my own as a teenager, and I’ve awaited and bought all of their albums since Mechanical bull in 2013. They were one of the first bands that I actually listened to critically, picking out the rhythm and lead parts, listening to how the rhythm section played off each other. I think Caleb Followill is one of the most underrated lyricists of the 21st century, and I absolutely love his vocals. So I’m much more sympathetic to their albums being in this project than probably the majority of people are. That being said, I don’t think Youth And Young Manhood is their best album. It’s still pretty good, but it’s all pretty raw. Caleb’s vocals are rawer, his lyrics are less mature, and the music is simpler. The rawness is certainly appealing as a countryfied cousin of the contemporary Indie Rock scene, and so in hindsight, I could see the case for Youth And Young Manhood being quite influential, Indie Country being one of the more dominant trends in Alternative music at the moment. But on the other hand, as a fan this is the album that I return to least, and while I admit that I’m maybe not the typical KoL fan, I think that that counts for something. They haven’t quite found their footing yet

Please stop recommending me Kings of Leon, they suck

Did not like this style of music

I'm not agin' it! I like it even. I'm sure I used to listen to this, it's all very familiar. Maybe a couple of beers and I'll be scootin' around the house, singing like no one's listening and driving everyone else mad. Sounds like a good use of my time. Yeah I think I lost interest in KoL after their third album, when they got bigger and polished. It's often the way with bands that you discover in their early days. As they get produced, the rough edges get another or and life gets better and their songs are less interesting. This is not that though. Giddy up. Three screeching stars.

I gave my friend some serious side eye when he recommended this album to me a while back. "Kings of Leon? Seriously?" But to my surprise, it was a seriously great album. And I still really enjoyed it on this listen. So much better than their later stuff. More bluesy, more punk rock, grittier. IDK, just better.

Talihina Sky carries this album. I miss old KoL

Some of these tracks the singer turns into gollum and starts seizing.

ich wusste nicht wie nahe die Kings beim country sind .. naja, abwechslungsreiches album mit wenigen perlen. mixed feelings ..

Ich kannte diese Band nicht finde sie aber mit ihrem erdigen Sound gut.

Album with ups and downs. Very mediocre

Didn’t know the made albums here and now know why I didn’t know

Enjoyable

Confirmou que para mim não apresenta alma ou pegada mais forte.

Nothing terrible in here, but nothing good apart from Talihina Sky either

Enjoyed this. Red Morning Light is a pure FIFA banger so that helps. Simpsons: No

Starts off with a huge FIFA tune, then bored me for the rest of the album. Haven't really listened to Kings of Leon much before, and this was exactly what I expected.

kicks off with a banning song from the first FIFA (2004) I owned, there is some other good songs here but the rest are nothing to shout home about.

I liked the first 3 songs, then the next 3 weren’t great, then everything after that was middle of the road apart from Molly’s Chambers which I quite liked.

This is a rubbish album.

Ég er brenndur af tónleikunum í Laugardalshöll sem voru hreint út sagt leiðinlegir, og þessi rödd gerir ekkert fyrir mig, en annars er þetta merkilega skemmtilegt. Já, mér leiðist næstum að segja það, en samt ekki.

I know I've heard songs from King's of Leon, but not enough to know how to classify the band. There is a certain throwback nature to their music, but the music doesn't necessarily sound "old". There is a hint of a southern rock feel, but they are definitely a rock band. The music feels like it could sit alongside some of Jack White's work (The White Stripes or Blunderbuss). All of the tracks on this album were new to me. I am enjoying the record in general, but I'm not not sure if I need a reason to come back. My favorite tracks were "Wasted Time" which channeled some Ram Jam ("Black Betty") energy, and "Joe's head" with guitar sounds that were drawing me in, but the vocals still keeping me at a distance. My least favories were "Trani" and "Molly's Chambers" which are illustrations as to why this album isn't above a 3 ("Just okay, but I'm not coming back.") Kings Of Leon's guitar work is interesting and engaging, and I sometimes described as fun, but the vocals haven't drawn me in, and the content of the lyrics is pushing me away. I don't want to listen well enough to catch all of the details of the lyrics.

I feel like this is a band I should like more but unfortunately it’s yet another band that has a few good songs and that’s about it

I liked Kings of Leon when I first heard "Use Somebody" and "Sex on Fire" - they have a unique sound and I like his voice. It's different. I had never heard their debut album (I also never knew they were all related). It did not disappoint. Even not knowing a single song going into it, I found myself really into it.

Yo….this shit suuucks.

my man needs to swallow his food before singing his songs

The okeyest credence clearwater revival tribute band

Nice Rock album.

i just hate his voiceeee. overall just a really grating listen. i really don't like this sound at all, 1 or 2 to be honest

Excellent alt rock album

01) Red Morning Light - 10,0 02) Happy Alone - 8,5 03) Wasted Time - 10,0 04) Joe's Head - 8,0 05) Trani - 8,0 06) California Waiting - 10,0 07) Spiral Staircase - 8,5 08) Molly's Chambers - 10,0 09) Genius - 8,5 10) Dusty - 8,0 11) Holly Roller Novocaine - 10,0 12) Talihina Sky - 10,0 TOTAL: 9,13 (91/100) Current ranking: 22/267 Kings Of Leon are one of my favorite bands from the early 2000s, this album is one of their better ones. "Molly's Chambers" is my favorite song on the album, and I had the opportunity to listen to them live twice.

I'm spoiled by modern mixing practices. This album, while I don't think it compares as much to some other older albums in terms of musicality or novelty, is more tolerable and easier to listen to for me just because it's mixed well. Don't get me wrong, this is decent rock. I'm not fond of the vocals though, just don't really like the lead vocalists' annunciation of the lyrics, nor really the lyrics that much as is. 3

Bit of a mixed bag, found myself liking it, then hating the vocals, then finding it dull, then it got good again. Felt like a weak 3 star album for me.

3.5

3.0

4.5

Southern strokesy indie rock. Its good but not my fav rock of the era

This was such a weird combination of annoying and enjoyable for me. Really not sure what to do with it. It's probably just one of those bands that only works in small doses. I do know there are too many Kings of Leon albums on this list. 3.5 stars

Solid

I enjoyed this quite a bit more than expected. Red Morning Light is a fantastic opener and brought back good memories of comedy shows at the Edinburgh Fringe. The rest of the first half was pretty good as well, despite Joe’s Head featuring an even worse Bob Dylan impression than that Timothee Chalamet trailer, and Trani having some quite dire screaming towards the end (hey, at least he tried, and the song as a whole was really effective). Unfortunately the album did peter out in the second half as the songs started to blur into one a bit more

Not as good as the last album. Even harder to understand what he is saying. Background music was meh. 5/10

Not for me

More country influence than I was expecting...but still enjoyed it more than I thought I would.

Never heard this before. Boy I really hate the vocals. He sounds like Randy Newman recovering from a stroke. Music is okay, lyrics are pretty bad. "You're givin' all your cinnamon away"

Ok album

this is a good ole 3/5

On one hand, this is kinda groovy early 2000s rock that sounds like a Eddie Vedder-ified White Stripes. On the other hand, there's just something about Kings of Leon that feels strangely pretentious, and this rubs me the wrong way. I really don't know what to give this album so I'll just give it a 3

I enjoyed a couple songs. NGL i totally thought they only made music similar to their hits (sex on fire, use somebody) so this sound was surprising. it’s okay

Like Jack White, it just sounds performative and inauthentic, contrived.

“Youth and Young Manhood” is a great debut, but Kings of Leon needed a bit more time to refine their sound and find their identity. Caleb Followill’s vocals have always been one of my favorite parts of KoL, but here there is a little too much Bob Dylan in the vocals. Some bands catch lightning in a bottle with their debut and are never able to reach those heights again. KoL, debuting as teenagers when some members hadn’t even learned their instruments yet, still had time to grow and develop.

3.5

I like the music, but the dude kind of mumbles a lot.

Really liked this when it came out. They went very badly to shit but this is still pretty good

I can't stop laughing over someone else calling them the Southern Fried Strokes. Hahaha, accurate. I still found this kinda meh, though.

Oh well. This Kings Of Leon debut probably harbors less grating moments than their subsequent LP. That said, the fact that the band here take zero risks is not an asset either. Their sophomore album has more personality in spite of its flaws--flaws including their singer's vocals, obviously an "acquired taste", which yet also makes their early albums endearing for some listeners. Here, in this first album by the southern rockers, the songwriting and performance often lack that magic spark that could make their act *truly* stand out. Sometimes, 'intermittently grating' is preferable to 'mid'. The four singles extracted from *Youth And Young Manhood* are pretty decent, I guess. But the rest, going from the same sort of southern boogie rhythms to half-baked slower cuts, is too mundane for a list like this. Not all early-noughts landfill retro-rock records are "essential", far from it. 2/5 for the purposes of this list, which translates to a 7/10 grade for more general purposes (5+2). Number of albums left to review: 132 Number of albums from the list I find relevant enough to be mandatory listens: 376 Albums from the list I *might* include in mine later on: 222 Albums from the list I won't include in mine: 280 (including this one, even if it's still better than the start of the arena-rock period of the band--like many reviewers, I feel like giving three slots to this overrated act in the 1001 albums book is particularly unwarranted).

few songs i really enjoyed, but i overall didn’t care for the vocals on this

Mixed feelings on this album. Punk rock kinda vibe. The singer has a voice that’s coarse and often annoying with an uneven delivery. A bit off putting. The music is good. There’s a bunch of songs that were alright, but the singer ruins the vibe for me. The standouts were songs where both the music and singing meet well for me. Cailfornia Waiting is an awesome song. Standouts: Trani, California Waiting, Spiral Staircase, and Talihina Sky.

Good band. Nice sound. “Only by the night”, a better album. Good songs.

How many of these types of albums do I need to hear before I die? Bored by this.

mid

Bit boring

4 - Enjoyed, I think these early albums deserve to be here. However who else is missing out because they take up album numbers in the list

Another one, hooray. Molly's Chambers by far the standout for me, though there are some other moments for sure. A lot of the start of the album just blurs together, but I still can't really hate it - it's another good but unnecessary Kings of Leon album. Fave Tracks: California Waiting, Molly's Chambers, Dusty, Talihina Sky 3.5/5

Not sure why this is on the list honestly

It's alright, better than average but eh

I like the music. I do not like yelling that masquerades as singing.

This was a nice coincidence, since I just saw this band live in Dublin a few nights ago. I was a big fan of their first 3 albums as a teenager, so this was quite a nostalgic listen for me. In their early phase, their records captured a very youthful and debaucherous energy, which I understandably identified with strongly at the time. From their 4th album on, however they started writing very hook-driven songs with football chant style choruses. Sex On Fire was particularly offensive - it almost sounds like a different band from the one that recorded this album. Apart from an occasional song on the 4th and 5th album, I pretty much lost interest from then on. They still put on a surprisingly good live show though. But this first album still really holds up, it's a fantastic debut. I guess it could be considered a bit derivative, since it is so rooted in 70s rock, but it was all new to me at the time! Some of the songwriting is a bit immature, which is to be expected, given the album title. But they improved on that massively on the 2nd album. I think people will be listening to the likes of Red Morning Light, California Waiting, Molly's Chambers and Holly Roller Novocaine for decades to come. Even if the only one they played live on Saturday was Molly's Chambers.

Not quite a 4 despite some great tracks

It's OK, not sure if I like Caleb Followill's voice or not. I quite liked "Wasted Time" because it reminded me very much of Tom Petty, and I also liked the laid-back "Dusty".

I get why this really hit when it did, with the indie rock backlash against 90s pop happening. I also appreciate the more Southern bent of this band and I certainly like this album more than their later stuff. I still don’t like it that much, though, and I think the lead singer’s voice is my main issue with this band.

I just enjoyed it thats my note

Take me to a bar and play this music

Na al die jaren blijft het een topalbum, veel lekkere nummers, echt een goede sound

This is a cool album. And I don’t really like these guys. Or do I? I’m definitely no fan of Sex on Fire. Hate hearing it actually. How can I like these guys? I can’t. I won’t. But I like this album. Oh yeah, I’ll spin it again. Go figure.

I like this album fine, but I have no idea why it's here. It just doesn't seem significant in any way, other than that it is an album from the early 2000s that isn't terrible 3/5

Youth and young manhood is a phenomena that's a right of passage in discovering and eventually becoming who one is meant to be in life. Kings of Leon seemed to have had that part figured out already. One would not guess that this was their debut album yet they burst onto the soon-to-be overtly filled 2000s new indie rock landscape with the Southern touch duly needed and the sounds of prior Southern rock bands provided with the modern touch. On the whole, it gives as good as its got and there is plenty of evidence that suggests that they will improve with time. Favorites: Red Morning Light, Joe's Head, Trani, Spiral Staircase, Molly's Chambers, Holy Roller Novocaine, Talihina Sky.

6/10, я ваще хз че тут сказать

An okay debut. Quite raw production, not too polished but no absolute bangers here

Album 457 of 1001 Kings of Leon - Youth And Young Manhood Rating : 4 / 5 Their debut album. Other reviewers seemed to want me to not like this album/band. I'm slightly familiar with them from radio play but never picked up an album to listen to. I enjoyed it. Nothing that made me not want to go to the next song. I think they have a few albums on this list. I'll look forward to the next one. I like what they're putting out there.

A lot of songs feel like they're twice as long as they should be.

Can’t understand lyrics. 4ish

Don't care what anyone thinks about KoL but this album is so good

They're like a cover band of their own band. Talented musicians, but there's something soulless about the music. They're like what Gertrude Stein said about Oakland: there's no there there. based on record sales, this band is much more popular outside the US, e.g. this album sold 218K in the US and 500K in UK. So it may be surprising for Americans to see any of their albums on this list. But having three Kings of Leon albums on the list is completely unnecessary, no matter where you live. based on record sales, this band is much more popular outside the US, e.g. this album sold 218K in the US and 500K in UK. So it may be surprising for Americans to see any of their albums on this list. But having three Kings of Leon albums on the list is completely unnecessary, no matter where you live.

Very tolerable.

just okay, probably won't listen again.

You can’t forgive any band that releases Sex On Fire. You can see the potential for eventual sell out.

Asides from Molly's Chambers, this is an entirely generic, interchangeable mid-2000s album.

I was trying to come into this album with an open mind, I really didn't like the previous Kings of Leon album I was served from this list, but there has to be something redeemable about the band, maybe from their early years (and especially their debut album). Overall though, I think my criticism of this album can be summed up by my reaction to the singers voice. It sounds like he is constantly putting on an accent, or vocal style, and trying to imitate something, but also rarely ever fully committing to the bit. It sounds self-conscious a lot of the time. The band has moments where they are convincing sprinkled throughout the album, but the overall impression is a thin imitation of better classic rock bands.

Mid. Molly's Chambers is overrated, don't get why it has all those plays.

Based on this, I’d say these guys were a lot more interesting early on. Later stuff is formulaic.

It's fine elevator or dentist music. Totally forgot that I had put it on.

fun rock album.

Pretty good album. I already had a copy of 'Because of the Times' which is a fantastic album. On first listen this album is not as good, but I will have a few further listens to see if that opinion changes.

Meh

Not my jam or wasn’t in the mood

Not my jam. But there were a couple of songs that I enjoyed well enough. 2

I'm a fan. First albums can be great or stupid. This one isn't stupid. However, I think this is the third KoL album I've seen.

Definitely a great bar band sound. There are lots of tracks here that are engaging. Really like Red Morning Light, Joe's Head and Holy Roller Novocaine. Really enjoyed.

This list is old enough to vote. This list is showing its age. This album would be dropped for Only By The Night if you updated this, or even Because Of The Times if you're one of those "sellout" people. This wasn't even their best album THEN. This feels like a "give one to the youths" without understanding the actual music of the generation. I'm not mad at the album, it's fine, but I don't understand what calling this one of the most important works in the genre of MUSIC, when this band was clearly finding their footing, is supposed to mean, other than throwing a bone to those dumb kids by picking a recent album, even if it's not really that good. It ended up calling the shot, so maybe I'm missing something, but this is very much a niche album by a band who would become much better than their debut.

Too rocky. Weird voices that aren't doing it for me at this time. Maybe the weirdness would become charming with further listening. However, no further listening is planned.

More punkish sounding than I'd expected from the KoL radio songs I've heard.

The singles are jamming. I think I'm developing a process here - the first 1/4 - 1/3 of the songs songs, and then the singles if nothing holds my interest in the first group. Using that metric, this album does ok! But I did not hold out for any surprises once I finished with the singles.

This was a big album for me when I was 15 so it’s impossible to hear objectively. I used to turn my stereo balance all the way to one speaker so it would cut out one guitar part (that had been hard panned to one side) and play along on my guitar for hours. I never really got the strokes comparison, in my teenage brain this was more a mid 70s credence style sound rather than late 70s post punk sound like television, that the strokes seemed to be going for. I love the live sound of the album and the short impactful guitar solos. It’s an easy 5 for personal reasons but I do wonder why it’s on the list.

3,5

Hmmmh, nicht so meine Tasse Tee. ABER: Vielseitig und musikalisch interessant.

3.5 Had heard Sex on Fire and Use Somebody before this. This is not that, which is good, but it's not the best. I like this genre and expected to like this album more than I did after hearing the opening track. A little samey and bland. Spotify plays suggest Joe's Head is underrated and I love that little lick in Genius.

I listened a little and didn't much like the vocalist but the other parts were good.

Average rock. Sounds alike a lot of other bands and not particulary original. But well conducted over all songs.

Brilliant debut album from the band I once described as “Like The Corrs, but with beards.”

Is this a true 4 or does it just remind me of a happier time in my life? I guess we will never know.

Sounds pretty flat tbh. Would much rather listen to "Only by the Night"

Love it

Album cover looks like four moist criticals pretending to be Queen. Good album though!

Probably their best album; scuzzy and lo-fi. No idea how they became so successful though.

Day144 - i don’t know much about kings of leon other than their only by the night album but it seems light years better than this mess

Red morning light is one of my faves from back in the day, the album version of California Waiting is very very rough and the album is good overall although I can see why it isn’t featured on the list anymore

Never liked Kings. This is worse. Did find myself tapping along sometimes.

Great debut album from the Kings of Leon. It is a much rawer bit of southern garage rock and much less polished than their later efforts

Landfill indie rock, totally uninteresting.

I'd not really listened to Kings Of Leon before this. After playing it three times, I think it's OK, not particularly exciting, not particularly bad. The album kicks off quite well with Red Morning Light, and the momentum is maintained through the second track. On the whole, this is an enjoyable album but not particularly outstanding.

Now this is a surprise, I honestly didn't realise there had been a proper punk revival. This lot epitomise exactly what I think of as punk. A disassociated youth angry with society, beating tuneless crap out of their instruments and being cruel to a microphone. The main difference being this lot don't have the nostalgia effect to make it bearable. To be fair there are bits where they do show that they are capable of actually getting a tune out of their guitars. But they soon revert to type, and I'm reminded of the infinite monkey theory. Oh yes, and talking of monkeys. What is that that they have providing vocals? I find it hard to believe it's of human origin. All in all its just plain shite. Shame there isn't a zero, not been forced to listen to anything more deserving of one yet. OK, so the above was written after only listening to the first half of the album and the break must have been good for my ears as the second half seemed better. They slowed it down a bit and it became more musical. I can see how the novocaine one got it's name, it reminded me of toothache. I can honestly say that with this improvement they now deserve the 1 star I'm giving them.

From when KOL kicked ass! So much energy. Red Morning Light one of the top 3 all time uses of a cowbell! Surely? Can’t argue with that. Caleb’s vocals occasionally scream like a mad lunatic, sometimes completely incoherent but I still love them. The album captures all of their live energy - simple party rock and roll.

Early KOL. What does he actually say when singing? I don't care. I'm glad these Nashville boys don't sound like Kenny Rogers and thats worth a star in itself. It's not bad, but it's not great either. A high 2.

Uncomplicated rock 'n' roll with some southern swamp influences: Nonchalant and the perfect music for a rock cafe.

Ah lovely, such a shame they lost their way. Saw them tour this album in a sweaty 3rd room at the Carling Academy in Brum - a few years later there were teenage girls screaming about their Sex being on Fire in the National Indoor Arena and it was time to let the band go

The lead singer sings like he got socked in the face right before the recording started. Molly's Chambers is a trash single. The dynamism is very well thought out, so the album is more than the sum of its parts. And while I'm not enthralled by the parts, the whole is fine.

Just a good album.

Typical first album.rougher, voice less annoying. Pretty good

Enjoyed this. A good sound and I enjoy his drawling singing style. Not bangers throughout but I did enjoy. Standout Track: Red Morning Light

Pretty good rock band who started with much promise, peaked, and self-imploded. This is from when they were on the come-up, so it’s more honest, even if far less polished. “California Waiting” is a jam.

I wanted to like this more. I think it was the voice that turned me off of it.

It felt like bluegrass? Nothing particularly stood out to me and it was largely forgettable.

There wasn’t anything wrong with the album, per se, but I kept trying to figure out what the secret sauce was that earned it a spot on the list and, man, I just couldn’t find it.

Just great – the Strokes of the sticks. It blazes and edges and roars and one hears deep pathos and authentic yearning in the singing, too – hard to believe how wizened they sound for being so young, plus the crispness and directness of the delivery. One was late arrival to the KOL bandwagon but thoroughly digs the output the last few decades. Later records are every bit as good. One is moderately outraged that all three of their included records have been exed. That's decidedly unwise on the part of the editors.

Just overall bland. I guess it was “fun” at times but much more often I was annoyed or uninterested. Devoid of talent, creativity, soul. The guitar work was fairly amateur and lackluster and the vocals were irritating and contrived. All the guitar solos were so disappointing and boring. There’s so much amazing, engaging rock music from the 20th century that I’m so baffled how lame music like this gets popular. The vocals bring it down from a 2 to a 1.5

I did not like this at all

The lyrics are mostly unintelligible and the singing is problematic for me at times but the musicianship and music are great!

Boring, unintelligible, grating. I hope this is the last time they are featured.

The vocals, man. I just can't do it..

Feel like this is more fun as background music. A lot of the album is inspired by punk and rock music but just sounds way too clean for me. Most of the album doesn't quite feel like it's doing anything new too. Some songs feel like it takes a page from the Strokes or the Velvet Underground. I mostly wanted it to be more raw. Best Song: Talihina Sky Worst Song: Wasted Time

Really surprised me, enjoyed most of the tunes on here! Best Song: Red Morning Light Worst Song: Dusty

Old Kings of Leon is so damn good.

This is just like their sex on fire album except you can understand the singer but the songs aren’t as fun and catchy. A good debut but with their lack of understanding grew their popularity. This is pretty average overall. 6.1/10

Youth And Young Manhood doesn't do it for me. The music is quite generically bland for its intended style, the tempo and styling is repetitive, and the guy's voice is really really annoying, almost like a pastiche of the genre. It has good energy and isn't particularly bad, I just don't like it enough to give it any more than a 2. That era of The Stokes/The White Stripes/KoL/Arctic Monkeys/The Hives etc never delivered for me.

Quite disappointing on reflection. The next two albums they did were definitely better than this one (before they went full poppy commercial) - don't recall listening to this all the way through (although it's forgettable enough that I might have done). Molly's Chambers and Red Morning Light are decent, the rest are misses. Scrapes a 3, just, on the strength of those two.

Southern rock with a tasty blend of punk/garage. Gritty vocals and gripping basslines

3.5

This just isn’t my vibe. I respect it tho and like elements of it but overall I can’t give more than a 3

I actually have a soft spot for Kings of Leon. I've always felt that Come Around Sundown is critically under-rated. And I have my affections for the world-stopping, radio-dominating, stadium-filling, Only By the Night too. I really like the production and instrumentation—especially the percussion and guitar work—on those two albums. And moreover, those albums served me at a very critical time in my life. They were some of the last albums I got "really into," before I was introduced to Pitchfork's "The People's List" sometime in 2012 and fell down the rabbit-hole of "critically acclaimed" indie music that I didn't have to feel self-conscious listening too on a college campus; ie I became a full-fledged snob. I digress. My point is I always half-expect to like these early Kings of Leon albums more. Since, well, if I like the bands radio-friendly cuts, then shouldn't it stand that I like their bluesier, garage rock-ier tracks more? Especially, when—as I alluded to recently when we did the Black Keys' Brothers—that move by the Kings toward success had the distinct echo of someone selling out. But, no. I just don't find anything special in Kings of Leon's early work. Like even less than I do in the Black Keys early work, which feels more appropriate for that band somehow; I mean, clearly it was, as it was a sound that band would very specifically hone as they took the world over. By contrast, Kings of Leon abandoned their initial sound and sold out soon as they could. But honestly, I think they were always meant to. I think their music was always meant to fill stadiums and play radios in this other, larger-than-life, U2-y way. Not play grimey biker bars across the southwest as I imagine songs on Youth and Young might. And so this album just doesn't do it for me. It sounds like a band in dress up. I really don't need it. And every time I put it on yesterday, I just wound up switching over to Come Around Sundown.

Ihan jees, mut siihen kakkoslevyyn(?) jäi matkaa

Maybe 3.5 not quite a 4. Good stuff tho

1000 times better than the turgid repetition of Only By The Night.

Fav tracks: Joe's head, Trani Least fav track: Not really sure, most of it was pretty unmemorable

Good solid rock and roll, there was one track that was horrible the rest good but great. Perhaps if this handed come after so many days of genuine crap albums this would have been more harshly judged, but timing is everything.

Eric Cartman singing cock rock - what is this? Kinda shit, but in a weird fun way. Doesn't take itself seriously and I can respect that. Some songs sounded like Blur.

Southern rock, garage rock revival. If this album has anything, it's energy. Raw and simple riffs and vocals. I don't know what to say about this album, I didn't really care for it too much. Everything sounds good but all together I just can't get into it. The singing is a little too wacky for me, it's not a very serious album. It just feels so empty too, I wish I could more accurately describe it. There were a few tracks I enjoyed enough but overall I was just not feeling this album. And I don't really care to examine it any longer. Just so painfully average. Won't revisit. 3/5

Good to hear Kings Of Leon before they became rock superstars. Their late-2000’s stuff was their best but Youth And Young Manhood was worthy of a listen.

I love the blend of eras on this one. A spirited effort, some songs came off better than others but they were trying things

Having heard later albums, it's like he's trying to be as unintelligible as possible. The vocals are literally lazy. It's like he was trying to pull a Bob Dylan? Either way as much as I have heard that their older stuff is better, this would seem to prove that that's not the case.

3.5

Sothern-fried version of The Strokes.

I like this maybe even more than their more famous records

I thought I hated KoL... turns out I only hate what they became. Baffling to think they abandoned the good qualities of this album and embraced the bad qualities.

Very pleasant surprise. Love the swagger! I had avoided these guys for years under the mistaken belief they were a southern rock jam band. Pretty psyched to be wrong, and a good lesson about what you might miss with mental shortcuts.

I feel like I've heard of Kings of Leon for a long time now, but have no idea what they sound like or even what genre they fit into. So it's nice to have an excuse to listen to an album by them (even if it is their debut album and likely *not* their best). I wasn't expecting a sort of retro-infused punk-lite/southern rock style (with a few other styles thrown in), but it's not bad, and certainly different than a lot of what was getting produced back then. It's amazing how *young* they were when this album got released, and how utterly homegrown their band and early albums were. It's also intriguing how much more popular the band has been outside the US (at least sales- and chart-wise ). Although the overall sound is generally not like him or his band, the lead singer's voice occasionally strongly reminds me of Jonathan Richman, which probably isn't the Kings of Leon's intention, I suspect....

Never listened to them before and really liked their style and sound. I'll be listening to this one again.

Sweatier than a teenager’s gym socks. Raw and scruffy and full of life. I followed up by listening to their recent release which sounds sad and defeated in comparison.

Super fun album. Souther gothic adventures about murder and dodgy preachers. This band is having a great time. The lead singer kind of sounds like Mick Jagger at times.

While parts of the album stood out, many tracks just felt... shallow? Like they were trying to emulate other southern rock / bluesy artists while they were trying to develop their own style.

3.75

Un peu mieux aimé que l'autre album de KoL que j'ai eu, mais la question reste à pourquoi un album de ce band a le mérite d'apparaître ici. 4/10

The most baseline, standard, almost lifeless rock album there could be. FINE spelled exactly like that (2.5/5)

The last two songs got me to reconsider this album a bit. It's not really my style and it doesn't blow me away but there's some talent here and they are pretty tight on some tracks. This is a middle to strong 2 getting a 3/5. Talihina Sky was a nice song.

Very crisp production. I can see why people would like this. I used to like this kind of sound in the late 1990s, but I'm tired now. I wonder how they are live, because this is almost too sanitized sounding for the type of music. Some of the vocal choices don't work, but I'd get used to it if I hung around. I think this should have less tracks.

Three albums. Three abums? Three fucking albums? By these hacks? They shouldn't have one on this list. Well this one is easily the most underbaked of their throwback drivel.

Strong start but repetitive towards the end

Decent 3.5

Fucking love their early work. So many bangers

Awsone

Definitiv nicht mein Geschmack. Aber ansonsten wohl recht guter harter Rock.

pretty good early 2000s rock. very of the time but i feel like it’s held up reasonably well.

I don't get it. What makes this album so special that it deserves to be on a must-listen list? It's an early 2000s band trying to emulate older music styles, and not doing that great a job of it. That said, musically, it's pretty fun to listen to in the background as you're doing something else. It starts off seeming like it's going to all sound the same with the first few tracks, but then it gets more varied. It's an interesting mix of garage rock, punk revival, and Southern/blues rock — a little Strokes, a little Ramones, and a little Steppenwolf. Lyrically, most of the album is meh. Typical derivative and boring stuff about being a young rock star and partying for the most part. "Holy Roller Novocaine" was a cool song, though. Initially I found the lyrics kind of gross until I realized they were about drug addiction and not a creepy relationship. "Molly's Chamber" wasn't bad. But the dude's voice. Holy smokes, do I hate his voice. I don't remember it being that annoying on the popular radio hits (Use Somebody and Sex on Fire). But on this album he sounds like Adam Sandler's character from The Water Boy trying to do a Bob Dylan impression. Or Eric Cartman when he attempts his weird ad-lib/scatting stuff. At first I thought maybe this album being considered among the best of 2003 was more of a statement on the rock landscape that year — and I say that as someone who bought the Zwan album when it came out haha. But some pretty big artists put out some pretty big albums that year, so I'm back to being confused. 3/5 — decent music, meh lyrics, terrible vocals

Another 4/5. Easy listening

You do not need to listen to 3 Kings of Leon albums before you die!!

bättre har jag hört

Tää oli ihan jees poprock hommeli! Tiedän tältä bändiltä vaan uudemmat hitit joten tää oli ihan kiva kokonaisuus niiden vastapainoksi. 3/5

Juuh aika bulkkia on. Kaks levyä näiltä on todella random.

tää bändi on kyllä niin varman päälle pelaamista. ihan jees nostalgisoida menneen vuosisadan rockia mut voitaisko tällä listalla kuunnella suoraan sitä. ja kaks levyä?? kaks tähteä.

Sounds like a high school garage band

Youth & Young Manhood is the debut album from American rock band Kings of Leon. It was the best rock debut album of 2003 and fans loved the garage rock revival of the southern rock genre. Surprisingly, the album fared better in English countries overseas than the band's home country of USA. It has been certified double platinum in the UK and triple platinum in Australia. This is a wonderful rock album with a little something from every subgenre. Sometimes the music will just be simmering, but the band knew when to heat things up and bring the rockin' to a boil. It's nice to listen to a rock album that was released when pop and hip hop were the hot genres. Highly recommend to any music fans, but especially rock lovers.

Very raw and bluesy, with a couple of absolute stand out tracks. Not much hint of the juggernaut they would become, but an interesting snapshot of a band on the rise.

A cool vibe and energy.

As good as the Strokes in terms of clean consistency but never quite matches them in terms of style or substance. Side B is far stronger than A, no bad songs from Molly's Chambers onward which (almost) secured five star status

A cool early 2000s rock sound. I always liked these guys.

Back when this band had an honest proposal.

Fun album. Still their best.

Thigh slapping, lasso spinning slice of indie rocking yee and haw.

zz popped

I hate the vocals. I don't get how this is different than other jangly rock.

I've only ever heard what has been on the radio from these guys. This album is so different from what I've heard. Pretty good stuff.

Really really liked that one! Fun listening to! Great sound.

Me: "Can we have the Strokes?" Mum: "We already have the Strokes at home" These are the Strokes at home. It's not particularly bad, but also not really good. Nothing special for the time. But at least better than their later records.

Raucous, sleazy, briskly paced. A fun enough listen, but there are other bands who do this shtick better. Fave Songs: Joe's Head, Red Morning Light, California Waiting

I enjoyed it more than I thought I would (based on their pop hits)

Bien. Lo volveré a escuchar

Kings of Leon’s Youth And Young Manhood is bland. Its jarring, and has no cohesion. The drums are lackluster, and singing is beyond horrible. Red Morning Light and Molly’s Chamber are this albums saving grace, but even those aren’t spectacular. This album cannot possibly be considered as part of the greatest albums in the last half-century, and truly has no value. All in all, Youth And Young Manhood is a trash album. Best Song: Molly's Chamber Worst Song: California Waiting

2/5. I do like the vocals, has an Elvis Costello influence for sure, including the music as well. The songs itself are just mid though, nothing crazy that stands out. I enjoyed it and it rocks sometimes but on a list of albums I need to listen to, not sure it belongs.

Hairy tastic

Man, I do not like the lead singer's voice. Caleb Followill. I find he sounds whiney, and also like he's singing into a coffee mug. I heard about Kings of Leon in high school and assumed this was like, a young teenage upstart band that had just hit it big with a hit single. Only now am I learning the band's debut was nearly a decade earlier, and also the lead singer is a decade older than I am. I shouldn't hate too much, I guess this band does not make music that I like and that's that.

No

Ken de band alleen van seks met die kale en nog een aantal nummers. Dit klinkt best aardig nog en vond het prima om naar te luisteren, had het erger verwacht.

Has its moments - California waiting got going, but ruined by his voice at times overall the albumis OK Not their best work, why is it here? humph!