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it’s not on spotify and honestly i can’t be fkd tracking it down but i remember digging it and the one track i could find just now was good
Had to go to YouTube for this so you won’t get my sparkling commentary throughout because I refuse to pay for ANOTHER subscription service. Now I sound like an old man. Let’s give another unheard of album a rip. Not another bad one please. Dude. This thing is IMMENSE. Huge surprise from the get go. The singing is insane in the best possible way and the lyrics are thought provoking and often tortured. The style changes are mostly fun albeit sometimes grating (I feel like some of it reminded me of “Let’s give ‘em something to talk about.” (Not a compliment)) HOWEVER, this album reeks of raw passion and soul and ends up coming across as a genuine expression of art rather than something to be reviewed well by music nerds. Not musically perfect, but emotionally poignant and ultimately impactful. 4 HIGHLIGHTS: Call Me, Green, Rabbits Dying, Stand Up
Hmmm
A pretty badass pair of step sisters. Loved the angst. Loved the lyrics. It's got 70s punk roots, 90s punk vibes, but was released in the 80s. Great album.
Had to check it out on YouTube (throwing muses full album). The above album cover and title are incorrect. I wasn't very impressed during my first listen, I think because I was a little distracted. On a second playthrough I felt the brunt of it's quality! Easy 4/5
Really great discovery from this project. Throwing Muses have always been on my periphery, but sitting down to listen to this record was a totally different experience to what I was expecting. It's not too different to the Gun Club, but fed through Dolly Parton, and its fraught with tense lyrical insights that are so candid as to be uneasy at points. They would go on to do a more polished rendition of this sound for the rest of the career, and while it brought them a bit more success I think this record is something much more unique. Very strong album that will go into heavy rotation on my turntable from now on.
Fav: Call Me Least Fav: Fear My favourite part was how whenever it sounded like it was gonna decrease in quality they just completely changed it up. Only issue was the vocals sometimes not being fantastic
Goated
4.0
Surprisingly interesting throughout - a kind of punk Kate Bush or an American Siouxsie and the Banshees - each track is rather memorable. Hersh’ vocals get a bit repetitive at times but the songs are good so she’s forgiven. Enjoyed it.
Being from New England, I've vaguely known Throwing Muses but never given them a thoughtful listen. Should have done it earlier, like this a lot. It feels to me like it's well before its time - sounds like it could be a mid-late 90's album.
good album! it saddens me that its average is so below oasis' album, its gap definitely isnt that big. 3.5 rounded up as well
I actually liked disc 2 better with the vocals front and centre of the mix. Bronze-y enough vibes with some great angry girl screaming which I loved. several standout songs including Doghouse. When it wasn't that good it turned into standard alt noise but I definitely enjoyed listening overall and glad I stuck it out to the casette mixes
"Throwing Muses" is the debut album by American alternative rock band Throwing Muses. The genres listed are post punk and alternative rock. Yep, perfect. Another really good description of the music is "a collision of punk energy, folksy melodicism and guitarist/lead vocalist Kristin Hersh's mercurial voice and lyrics." All of the songs were written by Hersh except "Green" which written by Hersh's step-sister Tanya Donelly, also a guitarist/vocalist. The other two members of the band were Leslie Langston (bass) and David Narcizo (drums). The producer was Gil Norton and the band was first American band signed to British label 4AD. Layered guitars and drums kick off "Call Me." This is very dark and post punk. Hersh sounds like a dead ringer for Siousie Sioux. Donelly harmonizes and they get a soft-loud-soft dynamic going. This is a break-up song. A beating percussion opens "Green." The song then goes melodic and back to creepy. It's still dark and appears to be about being in love with someone while while the person you're living with is jealous. "Hate My Way" brings a start-stop-start dynamic. Very dramatic with emotional vocals by Hersh. Vicious lyrics such as "gun to the head" "why do I want to die." "Soul Soldier" begins slow with a prominent and hypnotic bass. It the then goes really fast with the guitar and beat. I really liked the tempo change. "Delicate Cutters" closes the album. An acoustic guitar keeps the music soft but Hersh's vocals go from soft to screaming as she sings about mental illness. I had a tough time interpreting this album and band until it hit me; if you drew a line from the goth, post punk band Siousie and the Banshees to the late 90's alternative band Sleater-Kinney at the intersection would be this version of Throwing Muses. Their music is post punk, hard and at times country punk/alt country. Hersh's vocals are anxious, emotional and range from whispering to screaming reminding me a lot of Sleater-Kinney's Corin Tucker. The lyrics are very dark, and cyptic...bad relationships, sex and mental illness. The rhythm section drives a lot of these songs. It took a few listens before I really got into this album but I did. I'd say if you're a post punk or a Sleater-Kinney fan, chances are, you'll like this album too.
Biiiiig fan of this one! Love the sound of her voice and the use of both guitar and drums in their songs. Favorite Songs: Rabbits Dying, Call Me, Green
Moody, gritty and intense. Small grace notes make this record – like the tone/tempo shift on the opener and the very good "Hate My Way." Similarly, "Soul Soldier" starts liltingly, almost tenderly, before toughening up briefly – each shift adds depth and import, even if the song woulda worked well keeping to the general direction of balladry. Vocals get a bit raw and screamy at times. The songs display a command of the various flavors of indie rock circa '86 (e.g., hook-laden post-punk spikiness; slow-burning brooders; quasi-country/rockabilly romps that in some ways predicted psych folk). One saw them and remember their live show very much delivering – and exceeding – the intensity and grit of the records. They did themselves no favors by titling their 2003 album the same as this one. The other early records are also quite strong (particularly the excellent but unfortunately titled Hunkpapa) and built on the template here, with a bit more subtlety and range (plus generally cleaner production) but one cant really argue with featuring the initial effort here.
Turns out this album is considered to be untitled, and it seems to be only available as the first 10 tracks of the compilation "In A Doghouse". This is a great post-punk/alt-pop album in a similar vein to the Pixies and The Breeders.
Because of the difficulty of listening to the 1986 album I listened to the 2003 album posted on the comments and it's excellent. Soaring guitar with Dave Grohl style drums and creative songwriting. I liked the whole album, but the standouts were Speed and Sleep and Epiphany. I realize that I'm reviewing the wrong album, oh well. The 80s are getting an undeserved bump in my decade rankings
Emotional vocals and diverse instrumentation. Like a rocking wailing goth. In *checks notes* 1986??!!
Brilliant!
Love this. Singer's voice is great with the buzzy hard alt rock edge. Even the songs that are a bit challenging at first grow on me and i like the energy and noise delivered. Really enjoyed Epiphany and Portia, but good all the way through.
Wow, another hidden gem. Great songwriting that still holds up. I like how some songs change mid-song - speeding up or slowing down, or just change mood. (Hint: search for the full album on YouTube.)
Indiozinho legal! Vocal feminino! Gostei!!!
Vintage indie rock – gritty, tough and melodic – of a distinctive style that would prove pretty influential and is still a substantive and enjoyable listen today. One can make a case that the next few albums were every bit as good as this one. Caveat: don't listen to the self-titled record of the early aughts that pales compared to this.
I have missed it in its days, regrettably so. A blissful collection of energy, emotion, and most of all rawish punky well crafted songs. Really love it. Thanks!
I had never heard this band before. Very cool stuff. More similar to goth bands like Siouxsie and the Banshees than I had expected. I did get a bit tired of the vocal style after awhile though.
I've had a string of unknown, and crappy albums lately. When I saw this band, another that I've never heard of, and found I had to listen on YouTube in order to get the right record - I groaned. But this was awesome! I'm surprised this band never got bigger. Sounds way ahead of it's time for 1986. Reminds me in part of Black Country New Road which are one of the most beloved modern alternative/indie bands of late. Happy to be acquainted!
Damn this is a good one! Hate My Way is powerful song of teenage angst. Top tier there. This is a solid 4/5 album, to me. I was really surprised.
Superchulo. Es de una de Belly y The Breeders.
oeps listened to in a doghouse instead of throwing muses. Tag is wrong but the music was still fun. The throwing muses album is better tho. Pleasantly surprised I loved the punky vibe
I liked this. I wish it was on spotify so I could listen to it again, but I am probably not going to go through the effort to seek it out.
How the hell did this pass me by? It’s like it was made for me. A fantastic bit of post punk. Brilliant
Very pleasantly surprised
It’s a bummer this isn’t on Spotify because there were quite a few songs I’d revisit if I didn’t have to go on YouTube for them and it was a fun album in general. Turned out to be a blend of sleater Kinney type 90s alt rock and country that I enjoyed enough to not get pissy that I had to waste time on YouTube for it. Rabbits dying and fear were my top songs.
what a fucking find! absolutely hauntingly beautiful. not gonna lie, the first half of the album was a lot better than the second, but once you get into delicate cutters again it almost brought me to tears. very fresh and an amazing precursor to a lot of 90s shit. i agree with the other comments about the goats though. still, i WILL be downloading this shit onto my apple music. I think it's a 4.5 but i'm gonna round down. 1.) hate my way 2.) green 3.) call me
This is another band that I've heard of, but never listened to until now. It's easy to see why they were so influential, they have a sound that is both of the time, and years ahead of their time, if that makes sense. They sound like some sort of missing link between Patti Smith and Sleater Kinney, but also very like R.E.M.'s early albums. I can hear similarities to bands that came much later as well, like Sunny Day Real Estate, American Football, and even BCNR. I haven't gotten my head around the lyrics yet, but I'll definitely be listening to this again. Borderline 5 star for me, 8/10
A very cool, unique sound, but maybe not as polished as I'd like. Understandable for a debut album, but I like some of their later stuff a lot better like "The Real Ramona". This one tends to wander at points.
Das Album (es heißt übrigens “In a Doghouse”) der amerikanischen Indie Band ist eine Mischung aus Folk und Punk mit ordentlichen (“Hate My Way”, “Rabbits Dying”) aber auch mal anstrengenden Songs (“Vicky’s Box”, “America”). Ein bisschen klingt es wie die B 52’s. Am besten gefiel mir “Green”. Insgesamt ist da Album etwas zu unrund aber es wäre schade es trotz der anstrengenden Songs nicht mehr zu hören.
Punk made by people who can actually play and write… Pretty cool indeed!
This was a fun listen, there’s much better post punk albums though. Still pretty good though.
Quite good and ahead of its time, too bad it isn't on Spotify 3.9
Pretty darn good! Her voice was slightly abrasive at times, but I mostly enjoyed the edginess and the pathos. 7.5/10
The first Throwing Muses album I bought was Hunkpapa, (their third album) and though it was okay, I was underwhelmed and felt the production dulled it too much. My next purchase was the 2-CD compilation, In A Doghouse, (bought well over 20 years ago) that included the debut, an EP and The Doghouse cassette (on disc 2) that originally preceded the debut, which was basically the demo versions (then re-recorded for the debut). I was disappointed by the debut, but I much preferred the demo versions, as the sound was rawer, more energy. Listening again now with fresh and older ears, I enjoy the record more, maybe because I listened to more TM's music and have come to the conclusion their early albums are their best. I'm upping what I would have graded it back in the day by a star. Worth a listen and if you can find the compilation discs, buy it.
I definitely will listen to this again. I really enjoyed strong female singers.
Really dig this, softer more melodic punk
I was more familiar with their recent work and this was a good discovery. They were really more post-punk at the time, I also see a Siouxsie feeling in this album and it was overall nice to listen too. I prefer their most recent work (I love Purgatory/Paradise!) but this is first-class music anyway
I liked the style of this one a lot. It wasn't the best thing I've ever heard but I dig this genre. I think I need to listen to it again to better evaluate because I didn't listen in the best listening environment
Female led punk is pretty good. Great mixing of genres and styles, I like these guys. Listened up to Delicate Cutters as that’s where the original release ended.
Technically speaking Throwing Muses have two self-titled albums, one of which wasn't intentionally titled at all. This is that one. When one thinks about, when it comes to the trajectory of the label it was released on, this record set off a domino effect that is still felt to this day. Whether in the doghouse or not, Throwing Muses knew exactly what was needed to deliver a stellar record; poise, power and emotional volatility that would wound up spearheading a small yet vital revolution in the years ahead. https://youtu.be/E1Xd2jY3zWQ?si=T4ZJ8C_Yau1xyAVX Favorites: Call Me, Green, Hate My Way, Vicky's Box, Rabbits Dying, America (She Can't Say No), Delicate Cutters.
8/10 Just enough punk, just enough grit and best of all I've never listened to this album before this. Great discovery and it shames me that I haven't heard it sooner 5-9-2024
Pretty good
Clearly a very influential album in gothic and post-punk. It's been really interesting listening to the kind of band who would have inspired Sonic Youth, Pixies, or Nirvana. The music is dark and creeping, with often quite strange changes in key. Kristin Hersh's vocals vary between shrieks and whispers, and her lyrics are these striking tangled poems. I liked it a lot. Best Track: Rabbits Dying Worst Track: Soul Soldier
This album was an absolute treat to listen to to. I’ll have to check out their career highlights 3.7
Pleasantly surprised nice listening!
Super good
послушал около дебютный (там запутанная история с изданиями) альбом группы фруинг музес. до этого я вообще не знал про них, да и если бы узнал, что есть такая то женская инди панк рок группа 80х, я бы вряд ли сразу пошёл слушать. а тут почитал пару статеек, узнал лор группы, и вот ознакомился с их стильком. что это собсна такое. это такой индюшный диковинный рок с очень необычной структурой. по версии Кристин Хирш живая музыка должна быть грязной, здесь она и пыталась этому соответствовать. и базару нет, звучит реально очень живо, хотя иногда вот эта грань между живостью и грязью заносится влево. мне очень понравились Green и Stand Up, как раз таки где их не сильно заносит, и они при всей живости сохраняют хорошее качество. музыкально мне альбом понравился полностью, всё таки чтобы сделать такое профессиональное дурачество в инструментале, нужно очень хорошо владеть музыкой. местами они прям заходят на территорию ещё на зародившихся радиохед с этими сменами ритма и в целом очень сложными ритмическими рисунками. а вот насчёт вокала спорно. мне нравится харизма вокалисток, конкретно Кристин очень вайбует меня на Хлою Прайс, что несомненно круто, но вот то, как она голосом управляет как будто бы оставляет желать лучшего. причём мне кажется это тоже задумка, потому что у неё есть конкретный тембр и регистр, в котором она чувствует себя очень хорошо (два полюбившихся мне трека как раз в нём преимущественно и исполнялись), но ей постоянно хочется выдать какую то странную игру голосом, которая аудиально ну очень странно воспринимается. где то мисс вайб с музыкой, где то не в тональность, где то просто ушкам больно. задумка или нет, но реализация мне кажется не особо удачной конкретно на этом альбоме. но в целом это очень даже хорошо, думаю это действительно достаточно значимый альбом для панк и инди сцены, ну и просто как творческий вызов это слушать интересно. хотя желания ознакомиться со всей дискографией у меня не возникло, это реально интересный такой альбом на подумать над музыкой оценка - 8/10
Rating: 7/10 Best songs: Call me, Green, Fear
Admittedly pre-judged this one by the album art and band name, but a pleasant surprise. Very '90s for an '80s album
I can’t properly listen to this entire album because I can only find it on last.fm and not all the songs are available. That being said, I loved The Real Ramona back in the day and I love Tanya Donnelly. I liked the early songs I heard here too! Call me, Hate my Way, are great. Wish I could listen to it regularly.
This sounded way more modern than it's age, only the singing really ties it to the 80s. The indie punk sound would fit in decades later. Generally thought it was great, probably missing any obvious stand out tracks but most of the album was well above average. I would listen again but I'm not sure if ever be a really big fan, so it's probably somewhere between 3.5 and 4.
Never heard of throwing muses before but I enjoyed this. Do like a female lead in punky type music. Think I preferred disk 2 better with the alternate versions. Think my favourites were Vicky's box and America 3.5
⚠️⚠️ THE TOP REVIEW IS WRONG!! THAT'S NOT THE CORRECT ALBUM!! YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LISTEN TO THE FIRST 10 SONGS OF "IN A DOGHOUSE"!! https://open.spotify.com/album/6NDHvXHJTWPMhUqiuwosH9?si=vC3nRiM5Ra-lCJ_TQF7dlA ⚠️⚠️ Yeah, cool artistic choice to make your debut album (which is also your most famous, highest-rated one) be only accessible by listening to some random compilation, then releasing another album with the same name as your debut album. Shit sucks, because this is actually a really solid post-punk record, and I'm sure more people would have given it a fair shot if they knew what the hell they were even supposed to be listening to. Very reminiscent of Sleater-Kinney, but darker and messier. Almost Sonic Youth-y at times. Your mileage may vary on the singer's goat impression. Also apparently an influence on the Pixies. This really feels like reading some lost chapter in the history of music. I really enjoyed it.
"Throwing Muses" by Throwing Muses is a raw and compelling debut album that showcases the band's unique blend of alternative rock and post-punk. Released in 1986, the album is characterized by its jagged guitar riffs, intricate song structures, and Kristin Hersh's haunting vocals. One of the standout tracks on the album is "Fish," a brooding and atmospheric song that highlights Hersh's evocative lyricism. Other highlights include the frenetic "Green" and the dreamy "Hate My Way," both of which demonstrate the band's ability to seamlessly blend melody and dissonance. While some tracks can be challenging upon first listen, "Throwing Muses" rewards repeated listens with its depth and complexity. Overall, it's a strong debut that laid the foundation for Throwing Muses' influential career in alternative music.
My first time hearing of this band or hearing any of this music. Pretty solid. I know it's from 1986 but I can imagine Sleater-Kinney were into Throwing Muses for a while. An interesting sonic departure at the end of the album, but I don't dislike it.
4/5. Female-driven punk is sweet. There actually feels like something she has to be angry about and although I didn't super pay attention the lyrics, I didn't really need to. The instrumentation was actually enjoyable which is rare to find in punk. Sure, just a simple drum and 4 chord structure usually but even still, was nice to listen to and fronted by a woman. It still went hard and would probably replay again in the future.
Nice hidden gem for me to discover through this list. Great opener, great performance. Every song kept me on my toes and had some kind of surprise. Be it the silly horns in fear or the parody of country in America. Great collection of songs but could've been more focused
Caught me by surprise it was a great listen
Ok this was great. Embarrassed to say I had never previously listened to Throwing Muses but they are right in my wheelhouse and I was into this from start to finish. Kristin Hersh is such an engaging lead, the band is great but Hersh is the game changer on this album. The influence of Siouxsie and the Banshees is apparent but there’s a snarky playfulness that is worked in here and it’s infectious. What a fun album. 4 stars
I really enjoyed this, actually. Definitely worth another listen.
Thoughts before listening: One of those 80s/90s college rock bands that I've heard of and read about for years but never actually listened to them. In general I do like this style of music so I'm excited to try this out...if I can find it. It's not on Spotify and the YouTube links appear to be dead as well. Review: This is okay. It has a cool punk vibe that I'm enjoying, but it's also a compilation of the band's early demos so it has an unproduced quality to it. Not uncommon in 80s indie rock so it sounds very much of the time. The songs are all pretty good with Kristin Hersh's yelp standing out as the star of the show. From reading music magazines in the 90s, she was a huge deal in certain music circles, but I don't really know much about her. I'd give this 3-stars, but I did listen to their later output that's actually on Spotify....and it's really good so I'll bump them up to 4-stars.
Punky varied and pretty fun
Another wonderful 'bridge' gem. Kristin Hersh and Tanya Donelly seem like children of Janis Joplin and Grace Slick. Then seeing they're involved in the Breeders, the Pixies, 50 Foot Wave, etc, it's obvious they're an epicenter of 90s rock. Like there is no Sleater-Kinney without Throwing Muses. Once again, grateful to this project for discoveries like this 🙂🙏
One of those names I've heard a million times that I couldn't have named one of their songs. I really enjoyed this album. It really feels fresh and ahead of it's time for 1986.
It was an absolutely great discovery! I think it was the first time I thought an album was not long enough. I wanted more.
It’s pretty cool but just not my thing. Deffo would have been all over this as a teenager.
These ladies know how to rock! I enjoyed the album we accidentally listened to a bit more than the one we were supposed to, but overall a pleasant surprise for our first female artist(s) of this musical journey
I really enjoyed this, it has a sort of new wave/punk vibe to it but with dynamic songs. Favorites- Green, Stand up. 4*
first listen i didn't think the music was very strong but the vocalist is so interesting it carried it for me
Difficult album to find streaming. I hope I picked the right one on YouTube. That said, feels appropriate to hear this album after the year boygenius had. Post-punk energy, howling passionate vocals. Tidy song writing. The original album I listened to was a later TM album and it suffered from what this had in abundance: energy and tight songwriting. Wish it was easier to hear this album
The fact that I had to hunt on YouTube for Throwing Muses’ debut is fitting, considering it comes from a gap in my music knowledge. I just barely missed out on the alternative and indie rock of the late 80s, only catching up on bits of it much later. I didn’t discover Violent Femmes until the mid 90s, or the Pixies until the early 00s. But despite vaguely recognizing the band name and the name Kristin Hersch, I had never (knowingly) heard Throwing Muses. I’m glad now to have rectified that, and I can now appreciate both their sound and their influence. Their emergence into the indie rock scene out of Boston in the mid 80s also brought us the Pixies, when the Pixies joined them on their European tour and followed them onto British label 4AD. And Throwing Muses’ influence can be heard on many female-led rock acts of the 90s and beyond. Hersch’s voice made an immediate impact, though I can’t quite say whether I like it or not. Sometimes it works really well with the band’s constantly shifting gritty DIY soundscape. Sometimes it stands out negatively for being a bit too warbly or yodely. Not quite on the Alanis Morissette level, but Alanis must have heard Hersch and been influenced by her. I was also reminded of Sleater Kinney in the erupting screams and guitars that ebb and then burst forth. I previously opined on the way the Pixies cleaned their sound up after their debut to positive effect, but I think with Throwing Muses it was the opposite. I listened to later Throwing Muses songs, and found I enjoyed the rawness of this debut more. Either way, they are a band that deserves more recognition for their impact, and better distribution for this influential work.
I liked this a lot. The simplicity, the noisy essence, the vocals. All very good. Too bad I’ll never listen to it again being that YouTube was the only place I could find it.
Оказывается, у группы Throwing Muses есть несколько селф-тайтлд альбомов, один из которых вышел аж в 2003-ем году и звучит скорее как сборник классики рока второй половины 90-ых. Этот же альбом звучит в хорошем смысле сыро; миллиард идей вперемешку, шизофренические тексты, эксперимент прежде цельности концепта. Лучшая песня - Vicky's Box.
Better than I expected, though I am not confident I listened to the correct album.
another record I missed. I probably wouldnt have appreciated it at 11 and I never really got into the band when they were more popular in the 90s. But I would have loved this record if i found it in the 90s. Great sound scapes. Love the jangly guitars and the vocals.
should be on streaming
Weirdly had just been recommended Kristin Hersh by Gleek right before listening to this!
Pixies meets The Canberries. very enjoyale
Hole es nach!
Listened to a different album by them b/c this one wasn't on spotify. good band though
Hard to find but wourth it
Female post punk and indie rock. Great.
Really solid female-led post punk. Gotta check out some more from these folks!
I'm not sure I'm rating the correct album, when I searched Throwing Muses (The Album) on Spotify it says it was released in 2003. Oh well... So, I had to listen to this twice. First time it was just a bunch of noise, but after hearing it a second time it's actually really good! Alt-Rock with a strong note of Grunge if you ask me. Pretty good stuff!
A great weird voice. A little bit of everything on this album that's really held together by the unique singer.
Lovely stuff
"We quit making out to attend this meeting/with old ladies on tremendous amounts of coke." My ears perked up hearing this lyric, so precise and funny and telling. A whole story in a line. This is a great slice of early 2000s rock, served with the scent of the 90s on it. I'll likely revisit this album and explore more of Throwing Muses discography. My highlights were "Pretty or Not", "Speed and Sleep", and "Half Blast".
Throwing a Muse of fire
I really enjoyed this album. A bit Pretenders, a bit Hole, a bit Garbage, a bit PJ Harvey. I might even recommend toy husband…
This has absolultely blown me away to be honest. It's probably the best discovery of The Project so far. I'd heard of Throwing Muses, but didn't know loads about them other than that they were a female-fronted rock band. I guess I'd expected something a bit like The Pretenders, and there are elements of that (Finished for instance), but actually the power of some songs and the delicacy of others provides an amazing emotional range. At times, there's a vocal effect that is a bit off putting, but when that's stripped away, like on Delicate Cutters, you're left with a fantastic song. Great stuff!
Love the raw sound and Kirstin Hersch's angry and strained vocals.
I love how much they sound like punk B-52s!
Finally tracked this down on YouTube. I’ve enjoyed Throwing Muses since I was in high school but hadn’t heard this. Wow. Such a great record. Possibly their best.
Solid
1 cup post-punk poetics 1 tb each b52s, au pairs, and gang of four season liberally with arpeggiated major chords and unusual rhythms serve slightly undercooked pairs well with the unmistakable Kristin Hersch/Tanya Donnely harmony {chef's kiss}
Really really cool! Reminds me a little bit of Cocteau Twins vocally but that may just be the style of the time. Definitely cool witchy vibes and I kinda wish this album was on Spotify. I'll for sure listen again
Sat in that sweet spot between excellent support band and disappointing headliner.
This was an interesting album to get right after Porcupine by Echo and the Bunnymen. In some ways, more of the same, but also a much different approach to the post-punk genre (not that there is all that much that unites that genre together). Like Porcupine, I would not have pegged this album for being as early as it is. You could tell me that this was mid-90s, and I would have easily believed it. Throwing Muses were well ahead of their times with this album. Like a lot of female-led albums, it didn't get the recognition it deserved in its time (and continues not to). Clearly a very influential album, given how many artists would later incorporate its sound 4/5
The Spotify link is wrong but the actual album this is is quite good
Long but enjoyed this album. Not sure if original 86 version.
Force of nature, acoustic 4AD folk punk, Seriously. Kristin Hersh has such an overpowering. sonic weapon, vulnerable delivery, Is anyone thinking of the suffering of the beleaguered guitar strings here? And please listen to Belly.
Oh I really liked this. Feels like a bedfellow to some of REM’s early stuff and the link between punk and indie Terrific energy and some great tunes
Hi octane, edgy indie/rock, featuring some jagged guitar sounds and riffs, a dark foreboding atmosphere plus a decent singer. Nothing really sticks out as a classic song but there's nothing bad on here either. On the whole, very enjoyable.
Echoes of pixes enjoyed the energy and the noise.
Surprisingly good. The songs were musically interesting, experimental. Stand-out: Rabbits Dying
In de eerste oogopslag zag ik 'Muse' staan en ik schrok me dood, denkend dat de dag was gekomen waarop Matt Bellamy m'n batterij volledig zou gaan leegtrekken met z'n bombastische gruwelmuziek. Wat kan die man, naast slopende muziek maken, ook ontzettend goed en hard ademhalen zeg. Maargoed, dat moment blijft voorlopig nog even als een donkere wolk boven me hangen, dit is een andere band. De Spotify link hierbij klopte niet. Het album waar het naar verwees was iets teveel huismerk Blondie. Gelukkig kwam ik er na 3 nummers achter. Wat een reis heb ik achter de rug, nu al. Het album waar het echt om draait is een stuk lekkerder. Doet me qua zowel qua zang als muziek flink denken aan Be Your Own Pet. Lekker rauw gitaargeluid, alsof het in iemands kelder is opgenomen maar dan wel door een professioneel team. Ik kende dit totaal niet maar ik kan er wel van genieten. Niet elk nummer zit in het midden van m'n genotszone maar overall een voor mij prima album.
Favourite tracks: green
The cool thing about the 80's is that post-punk bands would start to develop a unique sound with more pop-informed songwriting. The result is effectively indie rock where the production was way more captivating than a lot of the more mainstream stuff from the 80's. Throwing Muses, while lesser known, was one of those bands. They would pave the way for the Pixies to be signed by 4AD, as they would share similarities in their sound that proved to be popular with an alternative audience. Throwing Muses is notably raw and restless. There's a lot of well-executed ideas throughout the album that I happen to appreciate more as the runtime goes on. Every song ends and I think "wow, that was great! I wonder what the next one has in store?" and it's just as good or interesting. A true underground underrated gem. Dig this up and give it a listen.
Melodic and edgy: I like this kind of stuff.
This is much closer to the angular British post-punk of circa 1980 than the New England college rock of circa 1990. Surprisingly good.
Very much enjoyed the female vocals and raw music rather than heavily computerized.
Fun, enjoyable. Will revisit.
I loved what I thought was the first Throwing Muses album - I just didn't know about this one at all. I was a big fan of House Tornado/Real Ramona/Hunkpappa and I thought Fat Skier was their first so now I'm totally confused! I saw them live back in 89 and forced my university friends to be fans too. This is great, full of the slightly discordant tempos and melodies over interesting chord structures. I get it won't be to everyone's tastes but it was great to discover this.
I almost passed on this one because I couldn't find it. I did find it here though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1Xd2jY3zWQ. I'm very happy I did finally find it. It is an amazing album. Every part of this album (drums, vocals, lyrics, feel, etc, etc) is amazing. So good!
Gott stöff.
Interesting album. Some weird lyrics but I enjoyed it.
This was new to me, gave it a couple listens. They have their own unique thing going on, especially in the vocals and lyrics. I like how they stay in high energy serious mode the whole time. I could see myself coming back to this.
A very solid punky album, never heard of the artist before. It reminds me of meat puppets a little bit
4.2 - Dark, angsty. Reminds me of Siouxsie Sioux. Hope this comes to steaming services soon. Standout: “Rabbits Dying”
I loved it! How did i not know about them?
Punk and Shoegaze? Hellyeahbrother.
Loved
Yoko Ono meets the Pixies meets something entirely unique.
7/10. I quite liked this, I wish it was on Spotify
Surprisingly solid. 7/10
Always surprised to find music like this from the 80s. Feels ahead of its time.
Throwing Muses is always a good time
Superchulo. Es de una de Belly y The Breeders
Great sound, really shaking up the eighties and part of a whole new emerging alt rock sound. No doubt enjoyment will increase with further listens - the sound grabs you first and the production is such that the vocals are one more layer of sound, an instrument - so I have no idea what Hersh is saying and there’s further exploration to come - but I’m willing to find out.
Cool girls gone bad
Love female-fronted alt rock with some bite. It's not nearly common enough for my tastes. This is a super solid example of it. She has a great voice.
Such a cool sound! Definitely more punk-y than what I'm used to, but still slays. Also, love the juxtaposition of a female voice with punk/rock. Her (their? at one point it sounded like multiple women, maybe it was just vocal layering) voice(s) gave me slight Dolores O'Riordan vibes. I definitely need to listen again, it's frustrating that it's not on Spotify though.
I really liked this album
Started out strong and interesting...was a tired by the end. Overall a pretty cool band I had never had exposure to in the past. 4/5
Old school punkyness. Dig the female vocals.
In the 90's I liked Tanya Donnelly's band the Belly, found out she was in this band and checked them out. I was blown away but who good how good Kristin Hersh on this album. Great album.
Sounded like something I should have already listened to. Quality listen.
Throwing Muses prefigures much, but it also occupies a rather unique sonic place I can't quite place yet. The sound sources are clear enough, emotions more so, and the album has an arc. The connection to Pixies is obvious, this debut more fully-realized than the other band's if a touch less distinctive.
very different lyric style than i’m used too but definitely would listen to more stuff by tjem
I really liked this one. It's always nice to see a female-led band on here. Hersh's voice here is great, and the riffs are pretty creative. Fave track(s): Call Me, Green, Rabbits Dying
beautiful voice from the female singer, suprisingly energetic algum
Really liked the first 3/4th or so, then it got a little out there
It’s annoying to have to find the songs one by one. I would be willing to buy it while I still have a car that can play CDs, but timing wise that won’t work out for the challenge. Very interesting overall. Nothing about this bores me. I do wonder about whether certain songs in particular relate to being hit by a car while riding her bike. I can’t help but wonder about the role of dissociation on this album in general, since Kristin has since spoken about being dissociated during songwriting prior to EMDR treatment. Lots of the lyrics speak to trauma and various aspects of mental illness. I didn’t expect the country influences that came up in a couple places. It gets a 4 rather than a 5 for because of the annoyance of trying to piece it together myself for this (I could buy directly from Kristin that might shift things) and because it is sort of emotionally intense with few breaks outside of songs that are on other albums anyway. Those albums can be 5s. If you’re new to the band this is certainly a good primer.
I like this a lot. Very original and interesting. 4 stars.
I like this! Exactly the kind of niche badass alt rock I enjoy. And the band is fronted by a unique and bewitching woman? Amazing! I am loving the vocals, the lyrical content and style, and the production that creates the right mix of raw yet popish musicality. It honestly feels like it paved the way or in some part even inspired Hole's Live Through This. Sucks that I can't listen to it on Spotify, because that's where I do all of my listening, but at least there's a lot more Throwing Muses music there that I can explore. And I will be exploring this band more, no doubt about it. Hidden gem, good find!
Ah really liked this, strong (post?)punk album. Glad I discovered it Saved tracks: Green, Vicky’s Box, America (She Can’t Say No), Cry Baby Cry
Always down to listen to Throwing Muses. I've never listened to this particular album before. Definitely will give it some more love down the road.
BUENARDÓPOLIS y mira que entré con una pajaaa pq duraba una banda pero me encantó. 9/10
This was a lush well orchestrated album that reminded me of The Beach Boys with English folk revival and experimental folk like the Kink’s ‘Village Green Preservation Society.’ The biggest issue for me was the length and the fact that the album sounded a bit dated. In its greatest moments, it was absolutely gorgeous.
This one I like, raw, emotional, artistic.
No esta en Spotify
This is one of those hidden gems that this project is all about. Throwing Muses debut album is clearly one of the first albums to experiment with a post-punk sound. Bands like the Pixies were clearly influenced by this sound. Maybe it's their label's fault, but I'm shocked Throwing Muses are not bigger in popular culture. Best Songs: Call Me, Rabbits Dying, America, Worst Songs: Soul Soldier
Better than Muse
Reminds me a bit of the Runaways. Especially Vicky's Box. Very Cherry Bomb-esq. Also a bit of Grace Slick thrown in there. Not quite four stars but I don't think 3 does it justice. Closer to 4 tho.
Uma ótima descoberta, o tipo de banda que eu amaria se já conhecesse. Vou ouvir mais com certeza. Melhores músicas: Green e Cry baby cry
Very grungy and punk rock/pop punk vibes, a little grrrl music.
Declaração pré listen. como pode um album com 1º música com 90 k de streams vei ... mas vou ouvir de mente aberta. desde o começo do album da pra perceber uma atmosfera indie. parece uma banda de 4 jovens descompromissados com o estudo colocando a alma num sonho distante. é incrível ? não | inovador ? não. mas sem dúvidas tem seu valor
I liked this, but I liked the other music from the band that I went and checked out after more than I liked this album.
how the hell had I never heard this before? It's right in line and on label as stuff that was so so formative for me and yet, totally unknown. Music is amazing... Had to go hunting for the full album off streaming but was worth it. Not totally mind blowing for me but I'll be returning to it and Throwing Muses + solo projects in the future.
3/5
Really nice female perspective
Feeling unsure on how I feel about this. On one hand, I kind of like the tone of it. At least some tracks. A bit like some softer Nirvana. On the other hand, no song really grabbed me. It all just passed me by quite unnoticed. Definitely lies in the borderlands of 2 and 3 stars, but I think in the end this will be a weak 3 stars. A bit uninspired, but I've had worse 3 star albums.
I thought this was ok. The female vocals really work and I prefer it when it leaned more towards punk than grunge. Kind of cool but no songs grabbed me and I don’t feel like listening to it again. Weak 3.
Who inspired who, The Cranberries or Throwing Muses? 3 stars
Grunge several years prior. I enjoyed this album a lot.
Tycker sångaren låter som Fiona Apple och av nån anledning gillar jag inte henne så då blir det ett lite lägre betyg. Men annars gillar jag det, verkligen tidigt 2000-tals rock.
Not my thing, never understood their sound or minor popularity.
3.5
Hey, this is quite deeeeceent!! I love her vocals and can absolutely smell the connection to the Pixies which is superb. Would lean towards 4 starts, however unlike Pixies debut, I am not hearing much in terms of really memorable writing and moments, but absolutely strong 3 stars, but I'm only halfway through.
There should be more bands formed by step-sisters. 3.5.
Love the story behind the band. Wish I would have given them more listens in the 90s when I liked this genre more.
Нетривіальний пост-панк, в мене рівень задоволення скакав по альбому нерівномірно. Вистачає хорошого матеріалу. Поставив зараз 3.5, але думаю, що варто повернутися ще раз.
Дивна плутанина за назвою альбому ітд ітп. Початок мені сподобався, кінцівка - ні. Загалом я б сказав що доволі цікаве відкриття з цього списку.
I was surprised that I had to find this album on YouTube. The image on this page isn't even of the original release, but of a combined version with an EP and some demos.
Didn’t know what to expect, but it turned out decent
Some interesting shoegazey sounds here
Nothing special. Kinda my style of music but not done in a very good way.
Really interesting and well worth the listen. I like how some of these songs develop and change throughout. Her voice can be haunting at times. Favorites were Hate My Way, Soul Soldier, and Delicate Cutters
Usually rate these albums on a would I listen again basis. Probably wouldn’t with this, although it’s not bad. Gets another star for the use of cowbell though.
Great voices but not memorable to me
ok
Very valid alternative music with female vocals to put on in the background. Doesn’t necessary break through to the front for me but still pretty good.
An album not being available on streaming is kind of an automatic ding, especially when the artist has other stuff there, so this better be good. It's largely good more than bad, but I don't love the lead singer's wailing. Fortunately she doesn't go to that well all that often, but there's some real off-putting Yoko-esque material here.
Interesting punk/college band sound. Singer resembles Gwen Stefani
It's okay, nothing new under the sun, just okay.
Decent alt rock album that isn't bad, but struggles to keep consistent momentum from song to song. Some high points & some low points come together to make a perfectly mediocre album. At least it isn't dragged on at all. Top tracks: Hate My Way, Vickie's Box, Stand Up
Wikipedia saved the day. I was halfway through listening to the band's self-titled 2003 album, which is linked here to Spotify. I realized that what's actually on the 1001 list is the band's untitled 1986 album, which I was able to find on YouTube. To reiterate: 1986 - untitled Throwing Muses album. 2003 - Throwing Muses by Throwing Muses (self-titled) It actually was an interesting listening experience, because they changed a lot in those 17 years. The earlier album was a lot more evocative and emotional; the later album was polished but didn't leave much impression.
Struggled with the bleating lyrics, but otherwise this was pretty good
I couldn’t find this album on Apple Music or YouTube, so I listened to an available playlist instead.
Pretty good, wish it was less rock more Midwest emo
On va la faire vite. C'est une sorte de groupe un peu punk. C'était plutôt cool, mais sans plus.
unfortunately the debut doesn’t seem to be on my streaming service so i tracked down what i could elsewhere. and i listed to what was linked as well. i think the music is pretty good, and poetry interesting, but the vocals are hit or miss. it’ll be humming along pretty well and then the vocals will throw me for a loop that isn’t really doing it for me. maybe on a different day.
A step above the recent run of abrasive guitar records that ended in twos — Kristin Hersh’s angular intensity and Tanya Donelly’s melodic counterweight give the record enough genuine variety to land above the “fuzz for fuzz’s sake” verdict that sank Mudhoney and the Velvet Underground. The jagged rhythms and Hersh’s slightly unhinged vocal delivery are doing real work rather than simply making noise. The honest ceiling is that none of it generates any pull toward return visits. A record that’s better than the alternatives isn’t the same as a record worth reaching for, and this one sits comfortably in the respect-without-love tier that the three exists to capture. Tanya Donelly’s presence is the distinguishing factor — her melodic sensibility gives the record moments of relative warmth that Hersh alone probably wouldn’t have allowed. A three delivered without ambiguity. Better than its neighbors in the recent listening run, not good enough to matter beyond that.
Somewhat difficult album to listen to depending on the region you live in but I eventually found it. 80's punk with a squeaky stilted female vocal performance. The instruments are doing more for me to enjoy but it never crossed the threshold where I wanted to dive in for more.
I prefer their later stuff
This one kinda surprised me in how much I enjoyed it. Idk if it was just the day or my mood, but I walked away impressed overall. I'll need another listen to fully come to a conclusion, but good overall. No idea why this wasn't on Spotify though.
I had to listen to the "In A Doghouse" version because that's all I could find on Spotify so hopefully it's similar enough. I liked the vibe of this album, I'm a sucker for some femme-punk even if I usually like it a bit angrier. The musicianship is great, probably even a bit ahead of its time seeing as this was released in the mid 80s. However I just couldn't gel with the vocals, I don't know if it was just her voice or the effects they were using on the mix but I found it really let the album down which was a shame. 3*
A pure core installment of 80’s girl punk. Wild and intense drawing on rage that I could feel.
I listened to the 1986 version of this from youtube. I'm going with a 3 here, it was alright.
I really, REALLY wanted to like this. I’ve had Throwing Muses thrown at me before, though not this album, but my reaction was similar then. All the elements were there for love, but I just didn’t have the feeling. Like sitting on a date with someone you SHOULD like, all the indications are that you two would get on swimmingly, but there just isn’t any chemistry. And now you can’t wait to get out of there. 3 Boolean: true? Not too sure actually
Что за пресная шляпа
🎧”The missing link between Siouxsie And The Banshees and P.J. Harvey” indeed.
wait das cover gehört aber zu nem anderen album oder nicht...?
Did not really listen.
I liked this album despite the fact that nothing really stood out. Still the music was enjoyable and the Courtney Love -esque voice was a nice match.
Proper mediocre
Sounded very much like Siouxie early in the album, but they clearly show their own sound with some genre mixes later on. I've liked most things I've heard by Throwing Muses, including this, but I like more of their other stuff.
Hard to have a true reflection of how the album flows when I’ve had to listen on YouTube and got adverts after every track. One of the main bug bares of doing this list. Anyway I couldn’t help but think of an album I previously listened to on this list and hearing the similarities. That band being ‘Hole’ however Hole felt far superior from memory and this just didn’t feel edgy enough as an album, yes female grundgy punk vocals were nice, yes the riffs were nice but it just lacked something- maybe I can blame the YouTube quality for that missing feature. Anyway- not as good as Hole so for that score a point less than Hole got. 7/10 Fave track- ‘soul solidier’ Worst track- ‘rabbits dying’
Throwing Muses The music of step-sisters that really does sound like the music of step-sisters. One second the guitar lines and vocals entwine together in harmony, the next they are antagonistic and spikey while the bass and, particularly, drums find a common thread - almost playing quiet mediators as time signatures and song structure bounce all over the place. It's notable that the most 'normal' track, Green, is the only one written by Tanya. I think Kristen would have been the scary sister to know 😂 Best Track - America (She Can't Say No) gave me the best balance between quirkyness and folk punk attitude. Call Me, Stand Up and Soul Soldier all good though too. Worst Track - Vickys Box Could have been massive, IMO, if they could have got on 😂 7.5/10
Not bad. I can see why they're on the list even if I wasn't super pumped about them while listening. They currently have a rating of 3 on this site, which I think is perfectly rated.
Tää levy oli vähän sillisalaatti, muttei huono sellainen. Kauheasti en ehtinyt keskittyä, mutta töissä oli ihan menevää toimintamusiikkia. Välillä meno muistutti Heartia, välillä laulajan ääni kiekui todella Kate Bush -vibaisesti. Tämä tarvitsee ehkä toisenkin kuuntelukerran.
Tää oli oikein maukasta indiekolinaa! Vähän meni taustamusan puolelle, mut ainakin siihen erittäin passeli.
Aivan hyvvää post-punk rymistelyä 🙏🏼
Aivan jepa räimettä ja kova vokalisti. Vähän vaatis lisäkuuntelua. Reissaaminen verottanut levyihin paneutumista, mut jos aikoo arvostella 1000+ levyä niin ehkä jokaista ei voi aivan karrelle kuunnella ja niin pieteetillä paneutua, jotta tää proggis ois sustainable.
5/10 Punky but fairly forgettable. Just not enough musicality being it all, I guess.
Solid 3 - good album
Could only find 6 of the 10 individual songs on YouTube.
Originally listened to the wrong album. It's here (first 10 tracks): https://open.spotify.com/album/6NDHvXHJTWPMhUqiuwosH9?si=5HU8yJFwTYSytUJhskN3Ew Seems more historically significant than enjoyable. 2.5/5. Raising to 3.
It was honestly just ok, plenty more records of this genre that deserve to be ahead of this tho
i feel like there's a lot of riot grrrl spirit here, but that might just be because of how much indie rock is in both of them. idk. i liked this a good bit, but it loses steam when it goes more post-punk. loses me proportionally to how long it goes on for. i really did enjoy Hate My Way though. deserves to be one of the 1001? ehh idk. leaning no. i'd rather have a Breeders album on here
ok
A fun find ... there is still surprise left in this list.
Not too bad - hadn't heard of thsi group before
MUSE? Jk I FELL BEHIND AGAIN 😭 OHH???OH????? IT HAD ME THE MOMENT I REALIZED IT WAS A GIRLIE SINGING VERY 2000s SOLID 3
not for me but its not bad
Seems more modern than its 1986 making. Good energy, great voice. Accidentally listened to some of their other work before finding the right album to listen to and wasn't upset about it.
great energy, however, the musicianship is lacking.
decent post punk
I found this a difficult one as I feel like it just blended into the category of “quite good but not particularly memorable rock music” of which there is lots on 1001. I had to give it 2 attempts just to see if I wasn’t giving it a fair go but that didn’t yield much more. It was fine, surprised to see it’s from 2003 as it feels a bit older than that. A benefit of the doubt 3 as I thought it was decent but don’t think I’d give it a third go.
Not sure what to make of this. At times it's like a weird country folk album infused with a soft punk edge. That's just the sound then you add in the vocals, and it gets even more bizarre as things go on. At times the screech down the mic is strained and sounds a bit witchy but not necessarily always a bad thing. I'm just saying it's unique that's all and no direct easy comparison exists! In the end enjoyed the wicked witch of the west! The main caveat is the length of the album and the varied quality of the songs. It's an interesting package, just a shame it couldn't be consolidated but can see why it might have taken a lead in inspiring, better things to come.
Another pretty good band but an album that never seems to get beyond pretty good. Its a pretty raw sound that I can imagine enjoying in a grimy rock bar, but probably more likely one in the mid nineties than in 2003. I can't find anything too much to get excited about in this. It's fine but sounds like the sort of thing I've heard a hundred times before.
Singer needs to take a chill pill
Kristin Hersh and Tanya Donelly are royalty, and much of what makes them great is here from the start. To say I prefer the first post-Donelly album (University) and the first Belly album (Star) isn't a knock on their self-titled debut. In fact, The Real Ramona might be the best of their whole catalog, so they clearly had something special together. I just came to them separately and didn't go backward until I was an adult.
The music was decent, but I wasn’t a huge fan of the vocals. She has a unique voice, but I don’t think it’s for me. 3/5
Meh
a tad boring, but i appreciate it
pretty cool! haven’t heard this before but i like this era and genre
Not my thing but was good for it's genre.
This album is probably better than I think. For 1986, it seems slightly ahead of its time - even with its post punk vibe. It is refreshing to have the strong female vocalists and her tortured lyrics, but I struggled to really get into the groove with the music. I will have to return to this one. It just feels like it should resonate more.
This was good but for some reason they fell back to honky tonk sounds every now and then? Really jarring. I would say the "Call Me" is the best track but I think it's just that individually picked guitar sound that I liked more than the song itself. Thankfully it comes through in a lot of their songs. The instrumentation in general and it's ahead of the time I think. Like 80's punk meets 90's indie. I liked it; I'd listen to more of them if it came on.
Ca se ressemble trop
3.5
un 3
This album is cool. It’s got cool rock and a good vocalist. Doesn’t overstay its welcome too
Started off and I was like ehhhhh but really found the groove by the middle of the album.
Foreshadows better things to come.
I do not have strong feelings about this. While I appreciate a woman-fronted rock group, this album itself was not a stand out one for me
I enjoyed this - even if I had to use YouTube to listen to it. Not sure I love it though but I liked it.
Very angsty energetc punk/post-punk/alt-rock. Love the guitar work early in Call Me. Vocal delivery is reminding me of later alt rock (SOAD). Interesting rythyms. Ooh Fear has a crazy moody 80s feel, like from a Terminator film. I really like Call Me, and I love the style, but the rest of the album does sound a bit samey Best track - Call Me, Fear 3 stars
Syncopated
I enjoyed it, 3.5 rounded down due to YouTube adverts
Gonna rate this based on the incorrectly linked Spotify album and hopefully come back cone day and piece together the real thing
very strange & unusual. pretty good? probably very fun live, or when paying attention to the lyrics. wouldn't listen to it casually though
Her voice is hard for me. Some songs I like her sound, others it was nails on a chalkboard. A 3 star since I couldn’t find consistency
Why would you have 2 albums with the same name? Here’s the link to their debut: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcsIlynY0iwtbZfnfnXYr536aYAzEXn_8&si=xNl25KPyiHz8_Pgp Likes: Green; Stand Up
I like some of the guitar work and the vocalist is very good.
6/10
This is fine. Appropriately decent new wave rock music and I can hear how it influenced a bunch of bands in the 90s and 00s. Also quite generic, a bit like an 80s version of landfill indie.
Hey. Go easy on my beloved Muse. Although it looks like this predates Muse by a decade or so. Unfortunately, the music is extremely obscure (judging by streaming numbers): a surefire element for a trajectory towards an easy 1-star rating. The 1000 most important albums of all time can never justifiably include a record whose most popular track sits at a cool 87k streams. Let me guess: the "professional" critics love this record while continuing to slander better artists like Steely Dan and Queen. These ratings reach the likes of Graceland, Master of Puppets, The Queen Is Dead, and Slippery When Wet – which are all fantastic (or at least iconic) albums also released in 1986. But Throwing Muses? Perfect ratings by AllMusic, Sounds, and Spin Alternative Record Guide? I'm stumped. The opener, Mercury, is (to be frank) almost unlistenably bad. Luckily, though, it's completely unrepresentative of what follows. Pretty or Not is significantly better – those two interacting guitars, distorted to different levels but constantly harmonised, add a controlled chaos to the sound that I can't help but enjoy. Civil Disobedience follows. It's solid. Fairly typical punk, although the musicianship is better than most of what the punk genre has to offer. The song peaks at the end with the harmonised vocals. And then Pandora's Box comes in: the third surprisingly enjoyable track in a row. Did Mercury start us off on completely the wrong foot? For sure. Rough for the first track of a debut album. Compare that to something like the flawless band-introductory track Good Times Bad Times, the song that launched Led Zeppelin into the stratosphere. I love Speed and Sleep's quasi-psychedelic guitar sound, particularly its main riff in the intro. Great interaction between guitar and bass here. The singing isn't great, but I can ignore it. The grunge and shoegaze genres definitely took inspiration from this ultra-distorted noise. Portia continues the album with a surprisingly radio-friendly sound. Again the vocals are bad – I suspect they're mixed blurrily because Hersh is a poor singer and knows it. But for the majority of the album, everything else is surprisingly strong. Post-punk is a shaky genre, but Throwing Muses navigates it decently. 3/5 Key tracks: Pretty or Not, Speed and Sleep, Portia
Seems ahead of its time but as I'm new to this I can't appreciate it as much as I would have back when it was released. But I was too small in 1986 to appreciate this anyway.
It was fine.
멀느끼지
I like Kristin Hersh’s solo work better than this band’s output but this was still pretty decent.
Ok
Seems like a good band, nothing to exciting for me
Bastante bien, algunas canciones me gustaron mucho pero un lse ni me gustaron. 6/10
Not bad. Dare I say good? Not quite.
I have no idea if I'm listening to it at the proper quality or not - all I could find was an incomplete YouTube playlist. It's fine. Nothing particularly grips me, nothing particularly bothers me.
Okayy
Nothing much to write about, this was a cool project but nothing special.
bueno, pero tampoco muy bueno
alright
This was a hard album to track down since it's out of print, but I managed to cobble together a playlist thanks to YouTube. Basically collected early material then late 90s versions of the same songs. I personally think Throwing Muses has far better work in their discography, but this does show a young band helping to kick start the alt-rock movement that would overtake the 90s.
this is pretty cool, actually! the opening track is nice and powerful. the rest of the album flows pretty well together. unfortunately i think if all i can say is that i enjoyed my time with this album, the highest i can reasonably give it is a 3.
I can see the appeal but definitely need to be in the mood
Like almost everyone else I listened to the 2003 album first. It was fine but a bit bland. Then I went back and listened to the 1980s one on the list. I preferred it. Vocals were punchier. Songs better. Vickys Box and America stood out. But can't quite bring myself to give it a 4. Future 4. High 3.
I had relatively high hopes for this and when it started it felt like it was in a genre I enjoy and had a sound I liked... But I kindof just didn't really do much for me. None of it was bad, but none of it was that memorable. None of the lyrics or tunes jumped out. The odd guitar riff or drum part caught my attention briefly, but it didn't really do enough to hold it.
Did I love the whole album no...but I loved the difference of the music, I loved the harder rock voice from a woman and the emotions in the music.
Nervy, angular post-punk that reminded me at times of Kate Bush and B-52’s. The lead vocals get pretty wild. She’s got a playful spirit. I bet she’s awesome live. This was a nice introduction to a band I’ve heard of but never got into before. I’d be curious to hear more.
Cool edgy alternative rock album. The singer is pretty forward in the mix on this album, which I like. She has a cool quavery vocal timbre and it should be front and center. Sometimes the band drones on a bit too much for my liking, but I think the overall sound definitely aims for that. Probably a good live band as well! Note for other reviewers: apparently there are two different self-titled albums for this band? Make sure you check out the right one!
I had a hard time finding this album, but once I did, I liked it.
Ik klik op de link en voor een plaat uit de '80s klinkt het wel heel erg '90s. Echt blij word ik er niet van. Dus maar eens naar wiki om te lezen waarom dit zo goed is. Maar goed ook, dat ik even surf. Want ik stuit gelijk op de waarschuwing. Verwar dit album niet met het album Throwing Muses van Throwing Muses. Huh? Jeetje, hebben ze gewoon twee verschillende albums met dezelfde naam uitgebracht. Wat irritant. Dat is vissen naar minpunten. Doe je alleen als je heel erg punk of heel erg artsy fartsy wilt zijn. Ahoewel? 'Of'? Dit album heeft toch wel een flinke tegenstelling in zich. Het lijkt én punk én artsy fartsy uit te stralen. Luister voor de punk bijvoorbeeld delen van het eerste nummer en luister daarna het tweede nummer, een soort Kate Bush track. Het is toch wel toch wel knap en uniek dat het zo samengaat op één schijf. Echt blij word ik er zelf niet van, helemaal niet door het veelvuldig gebruik van die trillende stem. Het lijkt soms wel Jim Carrey's versie van Somebody to Love... Maar toch wel een toevoeging aan de lijst. 2,5 ster
De snobs zouden de snobs niet zijn als ze weer eens een debuut willen pluggen. Tien jaar laten scoorde Throwing Muses een zeer bescheiden hitje met Bright Yellow Gun, maar de snobs willen even laten weten dat ze het debuut ook al op de kop hadden getikt, als een van de weinigen. Als ik zeg punk uit de 80s, gezongen door een vrouw, dan weet je eigenlijk al genoeg. Want zo klinkt het. Het had ook uit Engeland kunnen komen. Ik vind het niet megavervelend verder, maar het is zeker niet iets dat ik uit mezelf op zou zetten. En bovendien ben ik het dus niet eens met de keuze. Want Bright Yellow Gun is veel meer gepolijst, zonder de eigen sound te verliezen. Misschien dat ik een ander album een 3 zou kunnen geven, of misschien zelfs hoger, maar dit iets te rauwe jaren 80 album is voor mij maximaal 2 sterren waard. Voor de proef op de som zet ik University op, het album van Bright Yellow Gun. De rest van dat album laat ook wel een rauwe sound horen, maar dan meer op de 90s gestoeld. Rauwe grunge. Ik vind dat gelijk een stuk gaver, maar dat is ook omdat ik met die 90s muziek op ben gegroeid natuurlijk. Het schurkt gelijk tegen 4 sterren aan. Laat ik het eindcijfer dan middelen en toch op de licht vergeetbare 3 drukken.
It's just okay. Pretty grungy rock sound that doesn't change much track to track
Post-punk discombobulation that may well have had an influence on the rior-grrrls that came a bit later. My musical knowledge has been suitably expanded whilst unlikely to be one I'll be making a bee-line for again.
3.5 or something
I don’t mind this. The only other song I know by then was A FEEEEEEEELING…it was on a sire record compilation cd back in the day.
Some good melodies in here, and nice harmonies with the voices.
Above average
This band and album cover are vaguely familiar, though I'm not sure why. This looks like your archetypal 90s alt rock album, which is especially strange considering that it released in '86. In any case, I'm locking in alt rock for my prediction. Here goes. On the money with my prediction, though I wasn't expecting a female vocalist. This was solid. Like many 80s alt rock albums, the identity and artistry of the genre isn't all there yet, but this is way, way more competent than that of its contemporaries. I view this music as comparable to that of grunge, which is a surprise considering that I've always had a hard time getting into that genre. The guitars have that same apathetic ring to them, yet there's more nuance here. For one, the guitars are more distinguished from the backing instruments, and there's a good level of emotion and energy behind them. Decent vocals, too. The falsetto can be a mixed bag on occasion, but it generally complements the way that these songs build and intensify. Book time. "...the missing link between Siouxsie and the Banshees and P.J. Harvey." Throwing Muses is commonly associated with Pixies due to them being signed to the same label and having toured extensively with the band. "The spiky sound and psychotic lyrics were far from user-friendly, but they conjured beauty from chaos." "Not an easy listen, but a compelling one. Think of it as a key to a magical kingdom". Wikipedia says this album released before the debut of Pixies, which is a surprise. It was also well-received by a handful of critics, but that's about it. This band certainly got in on the ground floor of 90s rock, and for that reason I think the album has earned its spot on the list. I cosign this inclusion.
Never listened. Expectations: None - Verdict: Good - *** I initially listened to the wrong album. Who has two self -titled records!? *** Well this is definitely more energetic and immediate than the later eponymous album that I listened to by mistake. I like the sudden shifts in tempo. Vicky's Box is good, as is Rabbits Dying. Overall this is a good album, but it's nothing too crazy.