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What a strange album. My first impression is that Rip It Up must have been a karaoke staple. The original vocals even sound like karaoke. Separately, I feel like Rip It Up could have been a Blondie song. Oh, this guy sang A Girl Like You. Definitely a karaoke song. Flesh of My Flesh wtf. The sax vamp on I Can't Help Myself was pretty cool though. Hokoyo is also a neat track. Hmm. After a second listen, I'm gonna give it another star. I really, really dig the Zeke songs. Flesh of My Flesh is still wtf. And Tenterhook.
great
Cute record. Makes me think of it as a precursor to ska in some places. Good melodies and harmonies that are fun and engaging. Happy poppy type of vibe. It’s cool.
It's rare that I'm this blunt on an album from this list, but my goodness is this awful! Not a single redeeming thing about it. The vocals are painful to listen to, most of it comes together like a sloppy hot mess. Just terrible, dated, corny trash...
Ska, duran duran style, poppy… not bad
Overall laboured and a bit drab
that is baaaaaaaaaaaaad 1.0
Kjennskap: 0% Jeg liker appelsinjuice. Noe teatralsk vokal, men veldig fengende. Indie med afrikanske rytmer. Hadde passet godt på Roskilde.
нормалек, но ждал чето типа джой дивижн.
I liked the Soul and Reggae elements sprinkled throughout that I wouldn't expect from a Scottish post-punk band from the 80s. Fine enough album but I don't expect to listen to it again. Favorite(s): A Million Pleading Faces Mud in your eye Least: none of them if? 2.5/5
Fav: Hokoyo L: I Can’t Help Myself 1 The whole album kept hitting an exposed nerve or something. I think it’s probably all in the execution though. The vocals in this are killing me and everything wasn’t put together quite right. It has cool musical ideas but they’re just put together or assembled incorrectly. If this got played regularly in public Orange Juice might make my list of enemies. I feel ukind of bad about this low of a score but I got to be honest. In places it does almost wrap around to being so bad it’s good but it’s not quite there for me.
It's alright, I guess. Pretty boring, especially the arrangement. Basic drums, guitar, and bass for most of most songs. Never offensive. I wonder if this is anyone's favorite band and if so why. W: Hokoyo L: Louise Louise 2/5
No way! A mid British album from the 80s?! Lately all I’m discovering is that I don’t like these albums or this era.
Что-то не совсем обычное, но не интересное
Lovely fun, and different enough to warrant a place on the list. Music for people who aren't miserable though... which, from the reviews, would appear to be most of the people doing this project.
I give it credit for having a different sound - like a pop new wave punk - but I didn’t really care to listen to more than one minute a track. (2)
Number: 221 Familiarity: None (1) Rating: 3 Before: ======= Not familiar with these guys. New-wave boy band? I'm not optimistic. After : ======= It's a pretty solid three for me. Not sure why it's on this list.
Hated it. Not my style.
An interesting one. Musically, it has remained fresh, and at times I could hear the influence of many different genres like reggae, funk and soul, and while I wasn't absolutely hooked, I did appreciate it for that. Vocally however, it is painfully 80s. The guy seems to lean in to that style fashionable at the time, to the point that he sounds like a caricature. Or that he's having a stroke
how did this stupid album book gain any sort of credibility? Im tired.
When the album starts with the wet shit sample 🔥🔥🔥
Ok, I thought this was going to be punk. Instead I get sort of a white attempt at Parliament beats and rhythm with a poor attempt at copying Morrissey and being whiney. Terrible band name I don’t get the significance of this album. At all. I should read the actual write up. Like any band that lost out to these guys in a talent competition should be very very upset. But you know what? I don’t really hate it. It’s just enough to keep me engaged. By no means is it better than a 3 star vote. I don’t know what it is. So, should I apologize to whoever takes my words for scripture and toughs out a listen to this album? No, no I shouldn’t apologize. Choice cut: Mud in your Eye
Orange Juice is singular in new wave/post-punk circles because there's no one that sounds like them. They're a little funky, and dancy; they have no interest in being dark and brooding or flaunting their quirks, which distinguishes them from their contemporaries. They're so close to being a pop group. Great voices and great songs. A super enjoyable record!
its ok. unoffensive and listenable. Grows on you after repeat listens. I liked A Million Pleading Faces. Vocals kinda sound like if Morrissey isn't exhausted by the thought of living.
Orange juice is too acidic. But this stuff doesn't burn
2 stars Some parts of it were ok— like the first track. But it wears off and isn’t too great afterward.
that jangle pop sound
Surprisingly funky and soulful
New Wave, Ska (meer qua percussie dan qua blazers, gelukkig) en wat Afrikaanse invloeden als ik het zo mag noemen. Een soort disco/clubmuziek uit een heel specifiek stukje verleden. Het wil tijdens het luisteren al niet blijven plakken. Ik weet niet waar hem dat precies in zit. Misschien omdat ik vrij snel merk dat het me niet boeit, misschien omdat het wat generiek is. Wat mij betreft is het een album dat gerust in de vergetelheid had mogen raken. Van dit soort zangers staan er in deze lijst alleen al een stuk of 30, al kreeg ik ze aan het begin van m'n reviewcarrière een stuk vaker dan nu. Toch vind ik het ondanks de hiervoor gebruikte woorden ook weer niet super vervelend om dit album een keer te luisteren. Ik zou een 3 kunnen geven, maar het wordt toch een 2. Bij de laatste tracks keek ik toch wel uit naar m'n volgende muzikale avontuur.
Worst post punk album ever
I found one song I kinda liked but the rest is meh to me. It's just not my thing. 2 stars
We need to forcibly liberate the british isles... 1.5/5
New Romantic British pop
I just don't know. Meh(?). Is this a rip off of Talking Heads? Classic or derivative 80s pop? Don't ask me. Also, don't ask me why it's on this list, 'cause it should not be.
Sort of cheap Talking Heads version. Your average 1980 electro-pop. I was around back then - this band wasn't "a thing" as far as I think, nobody speaks of it now, why is this on the list? Any random album could be. Not that it's offensively bad sounding, it's just incredibly plain and forgettable.
80's slop.
✸ Now I need to google "what is jangle pop?" okay, it's that shimmering tinkly guitar sound. ✸ I like how this reminds me of The Smiths. ✸ I don't know if any one song was particularly memorable, but experienced all together it's a vibe. I am listening to it a second time through. ✸ I like it, this is a vibe.
Ахуеть, это уже 900 альбом. Сколько же я наслушался этих британских группочек, ума не приложу
Such a weird mix of styles, very confusing and not really nice.
I feel like this style of jangly pop music hasn’t really aged well
It’s alright, sometimes the background does too much and the vocals are too Scottish for me. Mud in your eye is nice tho
la clase de musica que siento que escuchan los que dicen que son tios chill de cojones
really unenjoyable, did not enjoy this
Honestly quite an average 80s record, reminded me a bit of Talking Heads which is funny considering David Byrne is from scotland if I am not mistaken. This is not bad but nothing too great either, probablty down in the middle with 3 stars.
Strange and charming little album....traces of McCartney melodicism and harmony, Nile Rodgers-ish chunky guitar grooves, and plaintive Morrissey vocals. Good mix, I'd say...it didnt totally stick to me the first time but I know it's good and I suspect with repeated listens, I'll get into this one. 4 stars.
I love going into something totally blind and ending up really liking it. This album is very good. I’m getting definite Police vibes, Cars vibes, some punk and new wave elements, but also hints of future 90’s alternative. But it’s all blended together into something unique and all its own. It’s like a funky, style of pop rock indie. It’s very well done, this was a good time.
Often times this reminded me of Talking Heads. Vocally, and musically.
Call it post-punk, new wave or extremely juvenile DIY garage rock.... No matter the tag, it's a fun, early 80's record. Enjoyable! Add it to my "guilty pleasures" list.
⭐ I can't help myself 👍 Everything else 👎 Hokoyo / Mud in your eye / Breakfast Time 🗑️ Tenterhooks Would give 3.5 as being alright but just not to my taste. Gonna round this one up
Fun, funky, and dancy
- Uh it’s uh whatever
Not very good. I listened to it and thought I would be perfectly happy not hearing this again. 3/10 Top song Rip it up
Decent. Has a couple of tunes. Edwin Collins is underrated!
Звучит классно, песни интересные, очередной приятный сюрприз от списка, 4.5
ЕБЕЙШЕ
Таки весьма плюс вайбик
rip it out себе даже добавил, звучит интересно, конечно под конец альбома уже стало скучновато, но готов поставить 4
Ok
These guys having more than one album on this list is inexcusable. Really, really not essential. Keep in mind that I love all the 80s kitsch, from New Wave, New Romanticism, Goth, Post Punk, Synth Pop, Techno Pop, Industrial, standard Pop, and all of the dance forms. This album by Orange Juice, no matter how you frame it, was simply irrelevant. These ideas were done way more justice by many other bands in the 80s. Every tune is way too slow. The vocalist is not expressive. Take this off the list and replace it with Phil Collins' NO JACKET REQUIRED or Journey's FRONTIERS. Or The Proclaimers SUNSHINE ON LEITH. Most tolerable track: "Mud In Your Eye"
This might be pop music with a slightly different twist, but that doesn't make it any good. The music played softly in the background. It didn't get on my nerves. But I wasn't interested in listening to it more closely either. 3/5
New to me artist that I really liked! The other reviews are right, it does kind of start off with a bang and then fizzle out in the middle, but I'm still calling it 4 stars. I'm gonna need more.
not as good as Joni Mitchell’s Blue
I can't help myself...I'm really liking this album. But the reviews have me cracking up- "All right, who gave the Carnival Cruises house band a Talking Heads record?". It's so true and yet, I'm still liking it.
Interesting and louder than I thought, it was fun and will listen more times to this
Actually quite surprised by this one. Just looking at the cover I got the feeling I was going to be bored and the music would fade into the background, however I was blindsided by what ended up being a pretty fun record. Some great groove throughout with some punchy drums that really keep everything in time well. The violin transition between Mud in Your Eye and Turn Away was a personal highlight for me and very welcome addition. The reggae inspired Breakfast Time was also great and another high point. Honestly just a fun set of songs that deserve another listen.
Here's a balanced review you could use: Orange Juice – Rip It Up Review Rip It Up is a solid album that never quite reaches the heights its reputation might suggest. Orange Juice blends jangly guitars, funk-inspired basslines, and Edwyn Collins' distinctive vocals into a sound that feels both playful and sophisticated. The title track is easily the standout, with its infectious groove and memorable hook, but the rest of the album is more understated. Many of the songs have a relaxed charm, though they can blur together and leave less of an impression than expected. Rather than delivering constant standout moments, the album succeeds through its atmosphere and effortless style. Its mix of post-punk, pop, and soul was quietly influential, helping pave the way for later indie pop bands, even if it wasn't a major commercial success at the time. Overall, Rip It Up is an enjoyable listen with flashes of brilliance. It may not be an album that demands repeated plays, but its warmth, musicianship, and understated influence make it worth hearing, but not one that completely lived up to the hype for me.
Another album to add to the pile of «what were they thinking of including this» albums. Nothing noteworthy about this, just a collection of bland, ok-ish and somewhat bad songs.
All juiced up and had enough for now.
Cool, maar ook af en toe matig
That was unexpectedly Grand. Must have listened to it three or four times during the day. I will definitely be checking to see what other albums this band put out and projects that the band members might have gone on to do later in life
Opening track isn’t bad. Was expecting another punk album but got a pretty generic British pop band.
- This is why I did this project; never heard it before, pretty fuckin' good, will add it to my pile of music, not perfect but not sure how I missed it. 3.5 rounded up -
Rip It Up was definitely an interesting album. This is an 80s new wave album and it definitely shows as it has all the staples that you could expect from this genre from the synths, the bass, the saxophones and pretty much everything else you can think of. This album's sound is certainly very cheesy and is most definitely a product of it's time but honestly i found some of the cheesiness with the music kinda endearing. The main thing that drags this album down though is the vocals. They started grating and remained pretty grating throughout the whole album. While the vocals are certainly an issue, i thought that the cheesy nature of this album was endearing enough for me to kinda enjoy it. Best Song: Rip It Up Worst Song: Breakfast Time
I think this album would've been a huge hit had Edwyn Collins been able to carry a tune. It had everything a New Wave album should in 1982-synth-pop, reggae, blue eyed soul, and a few extra World Music sounds as well. And I would've loved listening to that one more than this. As it was, I mostly enjoyed it regardless of his singing. Standouts were Rip It Up, I Can't Help Myself, and Flesh of My Flesh. As an aside, one of the cool things about doing this project is finding out that some of the solo artists I have heard of started off in bands I'd never heard before. So that's something.
Rip it up is not so bad. Pretty chill A million pleading faces is good. I like I can't help myself Hokoyo is fun
Another fucking new wave album GREAT I LOVE NEW WAVE. Been out for a week cause I lost my phone. Who cares. The first song was alrigth but the album falls off a cliff after that. I got new earbuds/5
Enjoyable
I believe there is a good reason I’ve never heard of this band.
I can’t tell if this is meant to be taken seriously or not
it sure is ok, has not stood the test of time
OJ - like if the Talking Heads were a little bit more 80s and a little bit worse. Not a bad listen but not enough to really stand out. 5.5/10.
I didn't know this was Edwyn Collins' Band. Interesting, but too wavey.
This was very good, I'm torn between 3 and 4, I'll leave it as a 3.5 but marking it for replay
I like it! It feels refreshing, funky and friendly, all in good ways. I'm feeling legit good listening to it. Singer has a way of singing that's kinda goofy but endures the longer it plays. I have no idea what this would be categorized as. It's almost immersive, like I'm in whatever world this is, and I like being there.
Better than Tool I reckon.
I love this album, so much. I saw them perform at Liverpool uni in the early 80’s. They were so good.
So Edwyn Collins, the guy known for the classic “A Girl Like You”, was actually in this band before launching his solo career. This is really a unique album. It blends post punk, jangle pop, sophisti-pop, and new wave, but never fully commits to any single style. Instead, it pulls elements from each and creates something all its own. You can clearly hear the influences, but the band doesn’t let those boundaries box them in, instead they carve out a distinctive sound of their own. Something else worth noting, the title track “Rip It Up” was one of the first pop songs to feature the Roland TB-303 bassline synthesizer, which would later become a key element in acid house. So not only is this album stylish and inventive, it was also ahead of its time.
Schommelt meermaals heen en weer van 2 naar 4 sterren, dus dan zit er maar een ding op, 3
Dit had zo maar uit de grote Indie-wave in de zeroes kunnen komen. Leuk albumpje met prima liedjes. Best 'bright' ofzo voor de jaren 80. Niet zo enthousiast dat ik hem vaker ga opzetten.
This feels like an oddity more than a must hear, but it cracked me up and was fun.
That was not very good. I liked the first song but it fell off hard after that.
1st song excellent/ the rest mediocre
This album very very good I love to listen it
Funky and fun, yet somehow childish and unserious while not trying to be? Uneven, but not boring which is *the* cardinal sin of most of the albums on this list.
Phew! There are lots of eighties albums that just haven’t stood the test of time. Orange Juice’s "Rip It Up" has it all: thin production, questionable sounds and strange lyrics. Not to mention Edwyn Collins, a singer with a distinctive voice that people either love or hate. And, as you've probably guessed: I find this drivel unbearable. Coupled with the lacklustre production, the album is a very good example of something that was popular in its day but is now close to be unlistenable.
Nope.
Rip it Up is a good song, as the album goes it tries your patience; Breakfast Time is stupid? The second half gets slow and ironic (e.g. Louise Louise)
#243 listening diary -I forgot how great of a tune "Rip it up" is! -the afro beat and dub stuff is very well implemented! It's all funky and poppy, in a disco kinda way at times, but it's quite tastefully done I'd say. -I always thought that their jangly guitar sound might have been an influence on Johnny Marr and fellow Smiths, but I don't think he ever said so himself. It doesn't matter really, if you like jangly guitars there's plenty of that on here! Probably even more so on "You Can't Hide...", they're both pretty good record I reckon. Ta ta
First 2 tracks were phenomenal, then it just becomes yet another mediocre British rock album
Tut nicht weh, bleibt aber auch nicht hängen!
For a 80s pop album that has a sub 3 rating that I have never heard of and seemingly nobody else has heard of, it was alright actually.
Wijkfeestenpodiummuziek naast de rommelmarkt.
De Talking Heads van den ALDI...
beetje kamp wel, I'll allow it
A strange and discordant mix of different genres. Not good.
Boring British rock with one hit song in the UK lnly like every other album on here.
Makes me want to go out and buy every copy of 1001 Albums You Must Hear... simply so I can Rip It Up
Really reminds me of Bowie at times
This album hasn't aged particularly well. Most of the songs are forgettable and the singers voice is as thin and weak as a sheet of tissue paper. Really the star of the show is Zeke Manyika who provides super unique vocals and drum work that elevates this a tad, but not enough to stand the test of time as essential. 2.4/5 -> 2/5
This was okay. Not the most unique thing I've heard, but it certainly wasn't unlistenable and had some nice sounding moments! Favorites: Mud in Your Eye, Flesh of My Flesh, Louise Louise
Well these guys certainly look cool as hell. Pretty sure I saw them hanging out at Silent Barn circa 2013 (lol Brooklyn joke). As far as new wave goes, I don't hate this. The Afrobeat tinged songs are cool. I don't get the hate, this was fine!
Es como una ensalada Waldorf. Una mezcla de cosas que por separado van muy bien pero que juntas acá no va, pero aún así hay gente de gustos raros que la elige...
Was not approved by mom. Turned into reggae. Sort of fun at times
Starting a song let alone an album with what sounds like water drops is bold . After the weird synth intro Edwyn’s odd vocals carry the song and the rest of the album, resulting in a patchy experience. 80s synth Pop, “I can’t help my self” but love some of these songs. When they’ve good they are great , just does not happen enough
Really enjoyed this! Unexpected. Probably a 3.5 for me, but going to round up rather than down because it's better than a 3...
Good
A few funky, Talkng Heads-esque tracks. A couple forgettable mid-paced New Wave tracks.
Not particularly memorable.
Orange juice but not very fresh
Pretty meh.
Forgot to write my review when I listened to this on Friday, but the biggest point I took away from this is that the vocals consistently ruined songs on this album. Great music but then all vibes are lost once he starts singing. The title track is a jam though, so I’ll keep it at a 3.
"Breakfast Time" by Orange Juice sounds like it would be a kids song teaching them about the importance of eating healthy. Another decent album if not a bit boring. Not crazy about the vocals but the horns are awesome.
Started my day with some Orange Juice :)
i listened to these guy's debut like a year ago which is like a straight jangle pop album (white people music) and then put this thing on and was like WHAT and I guess this Zimbabwean guy joined the band and totally freaked their style for this album... it was pretty chill and fun honestly!
was wel oké.. niet echt iets wat ik zou luisteren maar het was niet slecht!!
is fine
Fine, nothing special. 2.5 stars.
*Rip It Up* I guess I was expecting this to be a little bit most post-punk forward. But it's really kind of laid back. I think that's what kind of keeps me from really getting into it. especially with the reggae rhythms. Some of his influences aren't that bad I can tell that they were heavily influenced by the late '80s Bowie's between the Thin White Duke and the Berlin phase they seem to grab a little bit of that but add a little of the '80s new wave vibe to it. But it's also very sonically carbon dated. I could tell you this was from 1982 from first listen . I might have actually enjoyed this a little bit more if I had heard it back then because this was more cutting edge for the time. Nowadays with everything else that you hear from about that time and what came in right afterwards it really doesn't stand up as exemplary to me. One song, "Flesh of my Flesh" kept reminding me of Level 42's "Something About You" which would come out a little over 2 years later. Probably a fine example of what was inspired being more interesting than the inspiration. (7.25) ★★★½
I like many of the bands they inspired, like Belle & Sebastian, but this is npt my tjing still. 3 stars
There's some songs I like -- the title track, "Mud in Your Eye", and "Louise Louise", but they bring in some other sounds, like ska and funk that seems like a weird fit for them. 3.5.
It’s fine even though it’s the kind of album where the title track is pretty much the only one you need to hear. Simon Reynolds wrote a great book called Rip It Up And Start Again which covers the rise of post-punk and new-wave from 1978 to 1984 along with essential bands of the genre like Joy Division and Scritti Politti. Maybe a tiny bit of Orange Juice as well but he covers mainly great, essential bands of that era like Joy Division and Scritti Politti.
"Rip It Up" and "Tenerhook" are great. Overall a very nice album.
Never heard of this before. I was hoping for more post punk and less new wave cheese.
this list is making me actively hostile toward the idea of listening to new music. this was a 2 until breakfast time, which was sonically ROTTEN. the musical equivalent of mixing orange juice with toothpaste. just eat your stupid beans on toast or whatever and leave me out of it!
Its new for me, great band!
I am a big fan of mid 90s rock. There are absolutely albums I recommend to people all the time that I think are forgotten classics, things that got barely any play and deserved better. I see more than my fair share of nostalgia acts that I didn't get to see growing up in that era. But loving Marcy Playground's debut doesn't mean that, if writing about the thousand most essential listening experiences out there, I would include it. Some albums, I might, but they'd need to feel really special, really worth it. This is to say: Orange Juice feels like an inclusion from someone who loved 80s new wave but didn't have any sense of editing. From the lead single of Rip it Up, which I only know from some of the more obscure 80s playlists I've found (and definitely wouldn't have had a name for until now) onward to Tenterhook, nothing feels distinctive. It's a pastiche of a little of everything we think of in New Wave. The lead single starts with synth bass that sounds like it is, indeed, being channeled through Orange juice, kinda squelchy above anything else. I can't help myself brings in what to me feels like the distinctly 80s sex solo. Shattered throughout there is plenty of Uncomfortable White British Reggae and Afrobeat flourishes. Lead singer Edwyn Collins would, over a decade later, get his biggest single, at least in the US, with A Girl Like You, iconic in its vibes thrown back even further to a romanticized 60s via the 70s. It's such a complete song, fuzzed and psyched out. Simple enough to sing along, but complex enough that it sounded musically compelling. Its anachronism set it apart from the rest of the mid-90s, which is one of the reasons I love the era… it felt like so many different ideas were percolating under the relatively meaningless banner of Alternative Rock. I am less enthused by the relative flatness that early synths gave the 80s, though, and this feels wildly inessential generic 80s, something you hear intuitively at a club and then forget ever existed. High 2*
Day893 - post punk,neo-soul. better than i was expecting. orange juice left a pretty good mark in its short time
Room temperature Council Pop
Good sax on I can't help myself. Morrissey? This singer is the Normand L'Amour of Scotland.
At first I thought they was stealing from black ppl, but after some research they havent lied about their influences so ig they ight
First track very strong then was decent after but got a lil samey
All killer, no filler
not bad
First time I heard this album I liked come of the tracks but Edwyn Collins crooning grated on me a bit. I like E.C but I am afraid the same is true today. RIP it up is a great song and some of the other tracks are interesting but it’s held back by the vocals for me. 2.6
I like some of the more upbeat catchy numbers but a few songs are a bit of a repetitive slog. Not that keen on Edwyn Collins' signing style. A bit of a mixed bag.
Infectious, like a foot infection it grows on you, seems light and you can ignore it but it much darker than you realise and before you know it you are repeat listening Nice one Edwyn
What a wonderful little album!
Still some good songs on this. And a bit of filler.
Really enjoyed this album. Indicative of the new-wave and post punk in the UK during the 80s. Weird but cool, interesting but mellow. I really enjoyed the use of bass and sax that gave it a bit of funk. Good flow. Not too long. Favorite track was definitely the title track "Rip It Up."
I didn't mind it. Shame none of the other songs are as good as rip it up
5/10
I kind of liked this album.
weird but fine
AWESOME album! What a great find! Not at all what I was expecting, especially considering the “post punk” description.
The two big singles are bangers. everything else is a little bit 80's bland for my taste so only a 2... not quite a 3
Rip It Up is a great song. I Can't Help Myself is a cheesy pop number. The rest are nothing inspiring nor influential. Not sure an album should be on the list just because of one great song.
Post Punk primigeneo
Didn’t hate it. Probably won’t make the rotation.
Angenehm.
Never heard of this band before, and after listening I know why: There are so many other bands, like Spandau Ballet, Haircut 100, Fine Young Cannibals and The Style Council, that do what they do better. But I do love that post-punk jangly guitar! I like the music a lot. Some of the lyrics, not so much. And I got bored pretty quickly with the ballads. And that lead singer's voice! Like a disinterested Bryan Ferry with a mouth full of marbles. Ugh. With love to hear this album with a whole different set of lyrics and someone else singing.
Rip It Up starts off strong — one of those ‘oh yeah, I remember this’ moments — and then it just slid perfectly into background‑music mode while I worked. It’s got that early‑’80s Talking Heads vibe baked in, so even when I drifted, the groove kept me smiling.
Not incompetent but forgettable. Doesn't need to be on the list.
Not the worst for the bloated amount of New Wave we have had to edure. Even interesting at times. Just doesn't feel like required listening.
My rating 2.3. A million pleading faces and Can’t help myself are great. The rest of the album is mostly crap.
This guy's voice is worse than Morrissey's, and the music is derivative.
Another British band that was almost completely off my radar. A little in the Paul Weller school, I like that it’s all over the place.
oh shit dude, it's british pop again
i really like it so far! - i liked "rip it up" - i like "breakfast time"
I pity the miserable folk on here who can't enjoy this and gave it one star.
Нормальна фонова музика
Lowkey rhythmic.
Very nice.
Unexpectedly ahead of its time. Has some very good instrumentals, like the very interesting guitar, funky bass lines and some awesome saxophone solos. But there’s a tiny little thing that bothers me a lot: Edwyn Collin’s voice, it is good, but I found it extremely boring and uninteresting, and it ruins some songs for me, for example “rip it up” ( the song), I prefer Zeke Manyika’s voice. Overall I like the album, but I can’t stand Collin’s voice.
3.5
Tienen ritmos muy variados, la voz me hace acordar a David Bowie, un grupo interesante.
a chill listen
Fun sound. Dumb name. No need to be on this list.
Eh, it’s fine, nothing special to me. 2 stars
Fwi
Buja
Quite a few of the songs on this album made me stop and go "damn." Wonderful instrumentals and overall vibe.
Pleasant little surprise!
It was fine background music for a sunny day, but i almost instantly forgot it. Fiine but forgettable
Edwyn Collins and his mates with their bog standard bland and inoffensive 80s pop. The lead single is quite catchy, but the album as a whole is not particularly memorable.
Quite different but I did enjoy most of the tracks
its "the editor shows of his 80s nostalgia" time. some criticism considered the band as a “we have talking heads at home” type band and why is that so axcurate. 3.5/5
Ouais bah why not
Sortir ça après trois (TROIS) albums de Talking Heads, faut quand même vraiment pas avoir honte. Et puis Hokoyo c'est lunaire aussi. Cet album n'a rien à faire dans cette liste. Playlist pick : Rip It Up
This is a pretty good album overall. Not spectacular, but enjoy a few songs from it. Kinda feels like The Jam, and The Clash at points, like a distant cousin. Rip It Up is a good start to the album, it has a good vibe to it. It may be a minute too long though. Louise, Louise is probably my favorite from this album, the rest sounds pure 80's.
Surprising - not my favourite but middle of the table for sure
La primera canción me gustó mucho, creo que son muy buen Mood starter
This is a solid album with a really nice funk-post-punk aura that I enjoyed quite a bit. While listening I felt upbeat and groovy, especially thanks to the cool, bouncy basslines and the interesting, slightly quirky vocals that Edwyn Collins brings. Standout tracks like “Rip It Up,” “Breakfast Time,” and “I Can’t Help Myself” are genuinely good — catchy, fun, and full of that bright Scottish indie charm the band is known for. The overall energy and style work well. My only real issue is that most songs follow the same pattern: they start strong and promising, but then kind of fall into the same repetitive ending that drags on a bit too long. After a while it becomes predictable and tiring, which stops the album from being great and keeps it at “solid.” Still, it’s a charming record with plenty of personality. If you like that early 80s jangly funk-post-punk sound, it’s definitely worth hearing. Not flawless, but very likeable.
This was a truly confounding album. It wants to be ska, reggae, new wave, and possibly pop? And I couldn’t for the life of me decipher any of the lyrics
Why is this artist even on this list when other more deserving artists are absent. Here is a short truncated alphabetical list of suggestions instead of this hackney group - “Bananarama, The Bangles, Berlin, Big Audio Dynamite, Boomtown Rats, Thomas Dolby, INXS, etc”
7/10
It was alright, nothing special. Sounds like a lot of 80s bands.
While this album isn't helping the author's UK-bias allegations, I actually enjoyed it a decent bit. Kind of reminds me of Scottish Talking Heads with it's funk/reggae-heavy new wave sound. Will probably come back to this for more listens down the road. 8/10.
7.5/10 It's fun and varied I'll give it that.
does no one know how to have some FUN????????
If Rick Astley was heavily influenced by Rick Astley. 3
Nothing special here. Actually found myself a little annoyed at times thinking a would be a little bit like Little Richard's song Rip It Up. It wasn't close and this wasn't very entertaining either. I've heard worse, but this isn't anything I'll be revisiting. 2
3 I’d say Orange Juice is an awful band name, though thinking about it now, it actually feels pretty apt considering the beverage is one most people tolerate but very few actually love. Like, this album is fine, but it’s nothing special. I can’t say that I was familiar with the group going in, and I’m still not entirely sure what to make of them coming out. The title track (and group’s biggest hit) is decent I suppose, and the rest is listenable, though entirely forgettable. The most positive thing I can say is that there’s a jangle pop sort of sound to this that I could see going on to influence bands like The Smiths to a degree, but none of the charm of Johnny Marr’s compositions is present here. Also, it feels a bit hard to call these guys ahead of their time when most of the tracks here feel like B-sides from either Talking Heads or Young Americans-era Bowie - and all of the gripes I have with David Byrne’s overperformative vocals are largely present here as well with singer Edwyn Collins. Wait, Edwyn Collins? Oh shit, this is that dude with the Girl Like You song… which is often mistaken for David Bowie. Can these guys do anything original? (I’m being harsh, I actually kind of dig the track) I’ll give a shoutout to drummer Zeke Manyika for at least spicing things up in sound with his track A Million Pleading Faces, seemingly inspired by Afro-beat, but conversely, wtf was Breakfast Time? A Middle Eastern inspired number about the most important meal of the day and a girl on a bus? Considering the band’s name, I’m assuming there’s supposed to be something tongue-in-cheek about it because I don’t know what the hell else the track is supposed to be. Pretty middle of the road for me, but I think I’ll round up since it gave me hints of Bowie at times. That said, if these guys are orange juice, then Bowie’s a mimosa - no excitement to be found here.
Banger album. Im giving this 5 because the current score is not acceptable for this band and album. Every little helps. Not only is this a perfect example of jangle pop, the post punk influences in this are so good. It seems like Americans mostly dont get it. Thats fine. Piss off.
a very groovy album, defs will add some of this tracks
That is weird bass different language? slightly above average music like the vocals nothing grabs me as being extraordinary
Man, some of the reviewers on this site are fucking miserable. This was a fun listen. These guys can get a good groove going. The lead singers voice is kinda,weird, but I dunno, it worked.
No private session used on Spotify. Didn't know what I was getting into here, but hey they are going to Rip It Up. Rooted firmly in 80's keyboard heavy mellow rock. I liked some of the guitar work but wasn't a fan of the singer's Roxy Music voice. No more Orange Juice, please.
This is fuckin wack
eh
Starting your album with one of the wettest, squelchiest keyboard sounds is a bold move. You know, this isn't the most amazing thing I've heard...it's smooth synth rock with a bit of soul, or maybe pseudo soul. But I did like it more than I thought I might. 3.5/5.
Rip It Up is one of my favorite songs of all time. It’s the kind of song that improves when looped for hours at a time. Try it. Genuinely DNGAF what else is on this record. This is a 5, no matter what.
It's pretty standard New Wave. If you like that style you'll love it. As I am not a fan of New Wave/Post Punk it sounds like every other album in that genre. If there are differences that set them apart I'm not hearing it. It just sounds like the others. Well these kids have an accent, I don't feel like that counts though. Alright I listened to the entire album. No clue why this was on the list. It's not groundbreaking, it's kinda boring and just there. No Harry Belafonte on the list but we have whatever this is!
I am not a fan of this era of music.
A very good album
These guys are a post-punk band out of Scotland, and they seem interested in the morning meal (Orange Juice, Breakfast Time). Some of these tracks are good, while others are not quite there. The harmonies are tight.
What's that noise, son? Oh, I'm just listening to ORANGE JUICE. Ok... Actually liked it though. Groovy synths & horns despite Scottish. In fact they reminded me a little of Franz Ferdinand, who are also Scottish! The most interesting fact about ORANGE JUICE is that the lead singer got aphasia (now recovered) from a brain bleed and per Wiki could only repeat <<"yes", "no", "Grace Maxwell" (his wife's name) and "the possibilities are endless">>. The second most interesting fact is that 'Hokoyo' has some Shona lyrics. The third most interesting fact is that I briefly considered giving this a 4, which is high praise!
Second time around on this one and I think I like it more!
Wow, more 80s UK new-wave/post-punk. When will it fucking end?! I swear, this list is just the same 3 types of albums over and over again. This album is fine. I don't care for the band Orange Juice. The drink? Not my go-to breakfast fluid, but I enjoy it every so often. The band? I can't see myself willing revisiting this any time soon. It's just the same thing that I've already heard dozens of times for this album project with nothing special to make it stand out. I'm going to be honest here; the vocals are weak and kind of annoying. I'm not a fan. The music itself is very 80s. It's not bad per se. The first few songs on the album are alright. The style gets old by the end of the album though. The writing isn't great. I didn't like "Breakfast Time." There is nothing of value that I get here that I don't already get from a band like Talking Heads. Rip It Up isn't a bad album, but it's not impressive in the slightest. This probably could've been a pretty good album, but as it stands, I don't care much for this. 3/5.
Propuesta interesante que realmente no sabría definir el género, más bien se me hizo que exploran varios en sus diferentes canciones Cambian el vocalista en algunas ocasiones lo que le da frescura al album mientras se escucha Se me hace infravalorado pero si tiene muchas cosas interesantes Reescuchable 100% 3.7
Not awful. But not sure it’s list worthy.
Fuck off
Good album, couple of great singles on it
It was a decent 80s album. There were some unique blend of blues into it.
This started super strong and fell off a bit towards the end to me. But still a great album. Loved the variance in genres and sounds.
This is a band called Orange Juice with a song called Breakfast Time!? At least the songs sound somewhat different. Reggae influence with a light splattering of punk & quite a bit of ska. Weird faux Elvis lounge singger voice in a few songs that can be off putting. Horns are nice & some of the songs drag. The cover: I was not aware that OJ Simpson had enough time during his football career to be the drummer for a punk band with young Tim Roth, Jon Crier & Time traveling Devon Sawa. 2
Another album, that had a single track worth listening to. That one song was just ok not worth the "must listen to before you die" classification, and when you take the album as a whole it's pathetic and completely forgettable.
ein Album was mir gefällt, 8/10
*1982. Scottish post-punk. *Not horrible, but it definitely sounds like a young garage band doing a low production album. *I've tried listening to this a couple times, and just instantly forget what I listened to. RATING - 5.5/10
good production...very good production
It was ok. Poor vocals, blends together by the end. Standout songs: Breakfast time I Cant Help Myself
Serious question: who was the FIRST dude to sing like this? So many groups featured on this list have singers who have this half-swallowed voice. Do you think they were all born singing like this and then formed an unofficial punky club? Or are they actually forcing their voices into this garbley muted expression? Does anyone have an answer? Clearly the author of this list was HERE for that particular sound. Anyways these guys weren't bad. I liked the upbeat vibe to their songs and oh hello sax solo. Oh wait no. Track #7 is inexcusably bad. Minus one star just for that song.
Mildly interesting at best, cheesy at worst. You can die without this one.
This was a bit of a surprise. Beyond the ubiquitous title track and Edwyn Collins’ later solo hit, there wasn’t much familiarity going in, and the rest of the album doesn’t quite behave how you might expect. It’s looser, stranger, and funkier than the cardigan-wearing indie-pop stereotype often attached to Orange Juice. Those chic, clipped guitar lines are still there, but they’re frequently wrapped around bass-heavy grooves, disco-ish rhythms, and Edwyn Collins’ dry, half-spoken vocal delivery. Tracks like A Million Pleading Faces and Party’s Over lean into dub and funk influences, giving the album an infectious, slightly awkward swagger. It’s not wall-to-wall classics, and it can feel uneven at times, but its charm lies in that leftfield confidence — an indie band happily nicking ideas from funk, soul, and post-punk without sounding self-conscious about it. Different, enjoyable, and a decent listen overall.
Was okay. Started out stronger than it ended. 3/5
Very dangerous to make your album title track and BY FAR your best song the opening track. Inevitably means the album slides downhill, and in the case of Orange Juice quite rapidly. Has a few moments, and the Talking Heads comparisons are obvious, but I was ultimately disappointed with this
hate that awkward 80s shit
I immediately like the warm, analogue sounding bass and synths, it's a heady mix. It's quite complicated with layers of overlapping melodies. Poppy vocals but there's a spirit of soul, funk, to this. Then A Million Pleading Faces is a bit reggae influenced to me and the funky rhythm section has me tapping my toes. Mud in Your Eye is different again, dreamier with string accompaniment. Maybe too easy listening. Turn Away brings back some of the bite and soulfulness and I like it more. There's steel guitar too. Breakfast Time is slower, a little strange, and probably overextends its welcome. In the second half, Flesh of My Flesh is the standout with breezy, uplifting melodies. Some of this calls to mind The Police's deeper cuts. At its best, this makes me nostalgic for a time and place I never even experienced. Ultimately doesn't deliver on the promise of the title track, but I would listen again.
Interesting stuff, I think I'll have to give that another listen some time
Weirdly smooth and fun to listen to.
It's nice to get an album that's just pure good times sometimes. I had a really good time with this album, it just has such a chill and comforting vibe that I really liked. That being said it wasn't like exceptional, I did like it a lot though. Favorites: Rip It Up, Breakfast Time, Tenterhook
I listened to it. Kind of enjoyed it, but also forgot it.
Meh.
😴
It had potential but quickly became a bit of a drag
Что-то странное, среднее между The Smiths и Talking Heads. Но совершенно не цепляет в отличие от.
Really fun, great vibes. On the 80s playlist for sure
Bad
I’ve developed a new appreciation of 80s pop (or whatever you label it, post punk in this case) music since starting this list. The cover, that is so of it’s time and somewhat off putting before even started to listen. and then that starting synth, and that vocal styling I was not looking forward the next 43 minutes. But listening on There’s a lot of ideas on this record that I starting thinking I almost like but don’t always quiet hit the mark, but by the end of the record I was appreciative of what they were trying to do, and I had acclimatised to the vocal stylings (and 80s synth). So I gave it another listen. Yes it’s very of it’s time, but that’s a fact of everything, and it’s to me a valid listen, 3.5 Star
I like orange juice. Some great songs. But patchy.
Neat
The Sound of Young Scotland and a work of genius. The tribute solo to the buzzcocks would add an additional five.
Fun and boppy. Fun romcom album.
Wikipedian mukaan tämä on post-punkkia, mutta kyllä tää lähentelee enemmän poppia. Ei oikein resonoinut mitenkään.
Weird Scottish art-pop that may lean into the art quite heavily but never forgets the pop. When it's good it's pretty good but it sometimes starts to veer too much into sophistipop for my liking. Best Tracks: Rip It Up; I Can't Help Myself; Flesh of My Flesh
I wanted to like it but I'm not a big fan of the way the singer warbles. I'd much rather listen to Talk Talk or Tears for Fears.
Gem of an album, the author of the original book had to want readers to know about this album to avoid it from being overlooked
This sounded distinctly 80's, and with a release date of 82, that made sense. Still, it was alright, though a bit fun to listen to. 3.5, rounding down.
Note quite my cup of tea
UK critics overestimating the importance of New Wave again. The only thing I want to rip up is this page in the book. Please stop serving me new wave albums.
Might not be so bad if the singer's voice wasn't so goddamn awful.
Not bad, a little more electronic for me. But also kind of fun! I imagine this is where Meyer Hawthorne got some inspiration from.
Oh no way, another obscure Scottish band from the early 80s I’ve never heard of?? I’m sure this time they will be a hidden treasure! [listens to album] Nope, 🍊🥤🟰💩❗️ No business being on the list. 1⭐️
OK tracks: I Can't Help Myself, A Million Pleading Faces What a slog
Rip It Up blends post-punk and funk elements, yet compositional cohesion and thematic development remain somewhat underrealized throughout the record.
Probably a great live gig. Jazzy lounge music.
No. 146 Never heard of them prior to listening to this. What a fun album.
Not very good...
Sounds like men at work but not as good
was this written by Jim jones because I'm sipping this flavor aid
It's like drinking OJ straight "Orange juice the mixer? That's so crazy, whens the last time you had straight mixer?"
This band really makes me think of my friend so I will rate it highly even if some bits are a bit samey (hes still alive)
Argument for Rip It Up being the greatest song to come from Scotland
An exuberant fusion of new wave, funk and disco! We even get some Afrobeat on “A Million Pleading Faces.” The main singer has an eccentric sort of croon. He's a fun frontman, and I like that he also occasionally shares vocal duties with another guy in the band. Trading vocals is always a nice sign to me that this is a very collaborative band. Very fun album that I'd be happy to put on again sometime and get to know better! 3.5
Wow look at this album cover and tell me that this couldn't be an indie alt band from today? The instrumentation is so cool on this record. right from the first track there's so much to enjoy and listen closely to; I love the chromatic "off" guitar part at 2:53, and then the bold saxophone that comes in. Cool record. I didn't really love the vocals throughout though but I can appreciate that this feels ahead of it's time.
Surprisingly funky. Some good grooves on here. It's a fun album, but maybe gets a little tiresome towards the end. 3/5 Might listen again
Mud in your eyes 3/5
I didnt feel anything towards it really
The global reviews are right. This is just thrown out talking head tracks and they're pretty boring. Noting too negative but i do not see the use on this list. 2 feels harsh but get it outta here Favorite Track: I Can't Help Myself
Rip it up, a million pleading faces, turn away. A few good songs but nothing memorable.
Did listen aber han ned zu viel ufmerksamkeit chöne geh. Eher im Hintergrund gloffe, aber uf kei nervigi art. git 3 früsch presste Orangesaft für 11 Franke
Great opening track, meh for the rest.
This orange had more juice than I was expecting. Not all of it was sweet.
Escuchar este álbum fue una experiencia muy divertida, su sonido me hace querer volver a escucharlo y me supo entretener (aunque quizás sobre el final puede llegar a ser un poco repetitivo, pero con Hokoyo se reanima el álbum)
Just pure, distilled 80s music. Synthy horns and saxophone, basic drums and beats, and the singing sounds like a parody of someone doing Talking Heads. My previous album was Elastica's Elastica, where I praised the brief, bite-sized songs. This is the opposite, all these songs are much, much too long and tread water for the last halves of their runtimes. I would have given this 2 stars but it is so obnoxious and takes up so much more time (in my life) and space (on this list) than it needs to (i.e. any at all) that 1 star is all I can give.
Interesting, but it came unnoticed through the years, another 80's pop punk record...
I never really got into this. Oh well.
This was like a strange mix of General Public / Talking Heads / Everything 80s. Saxophone, Synth, dance beat, sorta funky bass? check. Preferred the songs sung by the drummer.
Definitely 80s music, but sometimes it feels like it searching for a good tune and not quite finding it. The singer's tonality also feels a little overly-dramatic at times.
IT was OK
I Can't Help Myself, was my fave song. pretty good album, nothing that blew me away but decent listen.
For some reason, the singer was giving off a combination of Sting and Morrissey. Not sure how to interpret that, but the album didn't sway me strongly one way or the other.
I knew Edwin Collins from his 90's resurgence but never heard much of his origin band. I bounced between 4 and 5 a few times while listening. Fun, energetic new wave with Edwin's signature voice and witty writing style.
Pretty regular 80's Indie. I don't recognize any of these songs, nor does it seem to be particularly influential, nor any of the band's members went on to do anything remarkable. That begs the question: Why is this here? Were Orange Juice NME buzz band of the week back in '82? Was NME already even a thing back then? Key tracks: Rip It Up
Chiar îi fain
Panned by critics, sold miserably and did not influence the career or output of a single musician, yet here we are...
Some of these songs are pretty fun, but the vocals leave a lot to be desired.
This is a surprise. Vocals aren't perfectly organized, the voices unfortunately don't compliment each other. It's like the two vocalists are contrasting too much. The harmonies aren't the best, only worked in "Louise Louise." It reminds me of indie bands like Wallows and some reggae. Not bad quite curious. Pleasant but not life-changing. Good but not incredible. I don't know if I'd consider it an essential album. Also, it confirms a thought I had years ago: Edwyn sounds like Bowie. Like, crazily similar.
3.5 (42:16, 10 tracks, 2nd album, 1982) new wave (Scottish post-punk) Scotland was an interesting scene in the early 80’s for postpunk/new wave development. I didn’t know these guys but I’m pretty sure I would have loved them in 1982 – they reminded me of Breathe (London, 1984) whom I just loved. They appear to draw heavily from American band Talking Heads (David Byrne). An interesting genre blending post punk experimental band. Their Zimbabwean drummer contributes and Afro beat sound, lead singer Edwyn Collins’ plays around with a lounge singer motif (I don’t like) a lot. I enjoy the jazzy pop of post punk the most. I’ve never been big on the nasal sound that Dimtry (1001 albums . . .) seems to favor. I don’t see this as being an album necessarily needed to listen to before you die but I’m glad I did. Spent a lot of time with it. Almost a 4 but the nasal sound. . . If he was audition for the Count on Sesame Street I’d definitely give him the part . . . The title track is described as "one of [the band's] most keyboard-driven new wave-y tunes." The album as a whole is marked by "funk rhythms, angular guitars and catchy melodies." According to Josh Jackson of Paste: "It was New Romanticism with all the softness and glamour removed." Trouser Press wrote that the album "explores the first album's ingenuousness in greater depth with thought-provoking results... Though young love remains the theme, tension has replaced cuteness." In 2016, Josh Jackson of Paste wrote: "For most people, Scottish band Orange Juice was a one-hit wonder known for the UK Top 10 song ["Rip It Up"] which was one of their most keyboard-driven New Wave-y tunes. But for those who bothered to listen beyond the opening title track, Rip It Up was an overlooked post-punk gem." 1 "Rip It Up" title track primarily refers to the act of discarding past failures or dissatisfaction to start fresh. Their most successful single. Regeneration and moving forward after emotional or creative stagnancy. "Rip it up and start again" serves as a "post-punk slogan" for self-reinvention. It suggests that if a part of your life—like a page in a book—no longer makes sense, it is better to "excise" it and begin anew. The narrator struggling with pride and "adolescent hesitancy" when facing a crush. He describes acting "dumb" or feeling "numb" and expresses a desire to "rip it up" to escape the awkwardness of unfulfilled feelings. The song explicitly namechecks the Buzzcocks song "Boredom" and even mimics its guitar riff, framing "ripping it up" as a way to escape a "humdrum" or boring existence. "Rip It Up" is historically significant for its sound: It is widely cited as the first Top 40 single to feature the Roland TB-303 synthesizer, which later became the foundational sound of acid house music. It marked a shift for the band from standard guitar pop to a "punk-funk" sound influenced by Chic and Northern Soul. 2 "A Million Pleading Faces" We have Zeke Manyika, drummer, to thank for the 2nd track. His Zimbabwean heritage leaning heavily into Afrobeat and synth-pop influences (partially sung in Shona) evoke themes of global suffering and collective hardship. It shifts the focus from the personal, "lovesick" themes typically explored by lead singer Edwyn Collins to more universal or communal concerns. Musically, it is often compared to the "funky African rhythms" found on Talking Heads' Remain in Light. Critics at the time noted it as a bold—if sometimes divisive—attempt to master different musical disciplines in a short timeframe. A more eclectic "post-punk" era, moving away from "unabashed amateurism" toward sophisticated soul and funk. Not a major hit it was released as a promo single (OJ1) by Polydor, who hoped it might become a "club hit" due to its rhythmic, danceable nature. Approximate English Translation - Makumbo ako akazafamba Your legs will walk - Asi aonamo chino But they see nothing here - Mayo wako wakazoreba Your journey was long - Ai wakaboutswa vamganimo Oh, you were asked by many Facebook 3 "Mud in Your Eye" A spiteful toast to explore themes of bitterness, heartbreak, and defiant survival following a failed relationship. Lead singer Edwyn Collins adopts a melancholic, almost crooner-like persona. I don’t love it seems fake and forced – I feel like Orange Juice tried on too many sounds for this record. The lyrics fluctuate between expressing intense dislike ("I'll tell you how much I hate you, girl") and admitting that those feelings might not be entirely true. Ultimately, the song, like Rip it Up is about moving on. The narrator claims that while the ex may "shatter illusions," they will never "haunt my dreams again". Note the Idiom "Mud in Your Eye" Some point to the story in John 9, where Jesus heals a blind man by rubbing mud on his eyes. In this context, the toast wishes for someone's "eyes to be opened" or for their healing, a theory for the primary British phrase in the 80’s which Americans have adopted. 4 “Turn Away" a song that explores emotional disconnect, unrequited effort, and the frustration of a one-sided relationship. The narrator expresses a profound sense of helplessness and "not knowing what to say" when their partner physically or emotionally "turns away". It highlights the silence that follows a rejection of intimacy. "You can never understand / And you won't let me touch your hand" emphasize a barrier between two people that neither logic nor affection can bridge. A startlingly blunt line: "And if you punch me in the eye / It's always you that starts to cry". This suggests a toxic or highly volatile dynamic where the "attacker" is actually the more emotionally fragile party, or where conflict is circular and unresolved. Lead singer Edwyn Collins questions his own identity within the relationship, wondering if he is being himself or "someone that I'd like to be" while trying to "talk some sense" to his partner. The track features the band's signature "jangly" guitar sound, which often provided a bright, upbeat contrast to Collins' more anxious and self-deprecating lyrics. I’m OK with this song – not my favorite but I like the jangly sound. Upbeat music paired with lyrics of romantic failure—became a hallmark of the band's influential indie-pop style. 5 "Breakfast Time" Again playing around with different genres - a jaunty, reggae-influenced track explores themes of youthful nostalgia, missed opportunities, and the desire to remain carefree. I’m OK with the reggae but again Collins’ with the false lounge singer crooning annoys me. The repeated refrain, "Oh, how I wish I was young again". It reflects a sense of premature weariness or a realization that the simplicity of childhood and early adolescence is slipping away. The lyrics paint a picture of a mundane morning routine—the clock at "five to nine," a "pouting girl" on a bus, and "reminiscing". These small details anchor the song’s broader existential themes in a relatable, "humdrum" setting. "You and I could frolic in the dew / Only I've something better to do" suggest a narrator who is both drawn to romanticism and cynical enough to reject it.Ends with a "fond farewell," signaling a clean break or a resignation to the passage of time. Critics often note the song's reggae-lite sound, which was a "cheeky" stylistic shift for the band and helped pave the way for later 80s pop-funk acts. Despite its upbeat tempo, it maintains the band's hallmark of pairing bright melodies with lyrics that touch on unrequited effort or adolescent anxiety. 6 "I Can't Help Myself" explores self-doubt, artistic anxiety, and the compulsion to express love. Opening with the narrator reflecting on a loss of confidence: "I always thought I could / Fall from a height / Land on my feet". This shifts into a moment of vulnerability where the narrator considers "throwing in the towel" and "admitting defeat". Despite these feelings of inadequacy, the narrator feels an irresistible urge to "tell the world" about their feelings for someone. The repetition of "I can't help myself" reinforces that this emotional honesty isn't a choice but a necessity. The song explicitly references The Four Tops and their hit "I Can't Help Myself (Sugar Pie, Honey Bunch)". By doing so, lead singer Edwyn Collins places his own modern indie-pop angst within the lineage of classic soul, acknowledging that his feelings might sound "trite" or unoriginal compared to the "profound" music of the past. The track was a bridge between their debut and their second album, Rip It Up, peaking at #42 on the UK charts. Famously performed the song on The Old Grey Whistle Test in October 1982, showcasing their shift toward a more polished, soul-inflected sound. I like Edwin’s voice more on this poppy soul tribute. 7 "Flesh of My Flesh" Revisiting the albums recurring theme - a sharp, ironic take on relational resentment, intellectual incompatibility, and the bitterness of a breakup. Cute song again not well suited for the false crooner voice. "The difference between you and me / Is that the world owes you a living". It portrays a narrator frustrated by a partner’s perceived entitlement and their tendency to "tow the party line" (conformity) in both their social and romantic life. The title "Flesh of My Flesh" is a biblical reference to Genesis 2:23, usually signifying profound unity and shared identity. Here, Edwyn Collins uses it subversively; instead of celebrating a "perfect match," it suggests a bond that has become a burden—a "piece of himself" that he now views with sarcasm and disdain. The opening lines, "Here's a penny for your thoughts / Incidentally you may keep the change," establish a tone of "acid-tongued" wit. The narrator offers small, mocking "gifts"—like a book of etiquette to "keep you sane"—as a way of highlighting the other person's perceived lack of depth or social grace. The mention of "mutual friends say make amends" and the cliché "a stitch in time saves nine or ten" suggests external pressure to fix the relationship. However, the narrator dismisses these platitudes, ending the thought simply with "Goodbyes". Critics often describe the track as having a Chic-esque, "rinky-dink" guitar style and "Philly soul" influences. This upbeat, danceable production provides a "masterclass" contrast to the biting, sarcastic lyrics, a hallmark of the band's "New Pop" sensibility 8 Louise Louise" A tumultuous, emotionally draining relationship with an "enigmatic drama queen". The lyrics describe a narrator who feels manipulated by his partner's "melodramatics" and is struggling to distinguish between her genuine feelings and a performance meant to "tease." The song centers on Louise, a "very pretty girl" whose constant "melodramatics" make it difficult for the narrator to see things clearly. Suggests a loss of innocence or status within the relationship. The line "that's your fall from grace" highlights the narrator's disillusionment with Louise's behavior. One of the song's most pointed moments occurs at a birthday party. The narrator delivers the lines, "Have a wonderful birthday, dear... I'll spoil your party with a punky sneer," suggesting he is serving up his resentment "cold" as a form of revenge for being mistreated. Despite being "doubled up on bended knees" and pleading for clarity, the narrator remains in the dark, unable to tell if Louise's words are sincere or just "crazy things to have said". "Louise Louise" is characterized by jazzy horns, searing guitars, and Edwyn Collins' signature "poetic" vocal delivery. While it carries the band's typical jangling guitar sound, it also incorporates elements of funk and soul, reflecting the broader genre-melting approach found throughout the Rip It Up album. 9 Hokoyo Anotther rare example of Shona lyrics in 1980s Western pop. Its meaning is rooted in both the Shona language and the personal history of the band's drummer, Zeke Manyika. "Watch Out" or "Beware". The song was co-written and sung by Zeke Manyika, a Zimbabwean-born musician who joined Orange Juice in 1982. It was released as a double A-side single with "Two Hearts Together". The lyrics act as a piece of advice or a cautionary tale. It warns a "friend" (shamwari) not to be deceived by lies or to stay trapped in a cycle of fake happiness while suffering internally ("Do you laugh when you are crying?"). The song concludes with a message of independence, advising the listener to listen to others but ultimately "think for yourself". "Hokoyo" marked a significant shift for Orange Juice, moving their sound away from early "jangly" guitar pop toward African-influenced rhythms, disco, and funk. By incorporating Manyika's heritage and language, the band defied the "fey" or "indie" labels often placed on them, showcasing a more global and rhythmic musical direction - Hokoyo, hokoyo Watch out, watch out (or "Beware") - Shamnari (Shamwari) Friend (specifically "my friend") - Usafire nhema Do not die for lies (or "Don't believe/fall for lies") - Umoseka here kama uchichema Do you laugh when you are crying? - Rudo haruvengi Love does not hate - Houdo inozvara imine (Rudo runozvara mune) Love gives birth within you - Usadye minzwa Do not eat thorns (a metaphor for causing oneself pain or trouble) - Umoseka here kama, uchirwadziwa Do you laugh when you are in pain? - Terera vamwe Listen to others - Asi funga wega But think for yourself 10 A tenterhook is a sharp, L-shaped hook used to fasten cloth to a wooden frame (called a tenter) so it can be stretched and dried without shrinking. In modern English, the word is almost exclusively used in the idiom "on tenterhooks," meaning to be in a state of nervous suspense or anxious anticipation. Back to Edwyn’s crooning "Tenterhook" the song uses the literal meaning of the word—a hook used to stretch cloth—as a metaphor for emotional and social tension. Explores themes of suspense, discomfort, and unresolved relationships: The opening lines, "And though I stood on tenterhooks / I still took one last lingering look," use the idiom to describe a state of nervous, painful anticipation. It captures the feeling of being "stretched" thin while waiting for someone or something to change. Edwyn Collins contrasts this intense anxiety with mundane domestic symbols, such as "freshly laundered" white sheets. This creates a sense of forced cleanliness or order over a messy emotional situation. The lyrics also touch on a defensive detachment, with the narrator describing themselves as "fit as a fiddle but so non-committal" and stifling a smile in the face of serious concerns. "Tenterhook" is noted for its Memphis soul and disco influences, featuring a dramatic, deep vocal performance that some critics have compared to a "Count Dracula" style of crooning. This theatrical delivery heightens the sense of artificiality and tension described in the lyrics. Lyric Element Metaphorical Meaning Tenterhooks A state of painful suspense or being emotionally stretched. Laundered Sheets An attempt to keep things clean or "proper" despite underlying conflict. Fit as a Fiddle A facade of being perfectly fine while remaining emotionally unavailable ("non-committal"). Favorite Tracks Rip It Up, A Million Pleading Faces, Hokoyo (I like Zeke’s writing and voice more than Edywn’s) Track listing 1. "Rip It Up" 5:19 2. "A Million Pleading Faces" 3:14 3. "Mud in Your Eye" 3:56 4. "Turn Away" 3:19 5. "Breakfast Time" 5:10 6. "I Can't Help Myself" 5:05 7. "Flesh of My Flesh" 3:15 8. "Louise Louise" 2:51 9. "Hokoyo" 5:06 10. "Tenterhook" 5:01 Orange Juice Edwyn Collins – vocals, guitar, violin Malcolm Ross – guitar, vocals, synthesizer, piano, organ David McClymont – bass, synthesizer, backing vocals Zeke Manyika – drums, vocals, percussion, synthesizer Plus Dick Morrissey - saxophone Martin Drover - flugelhorn Martin Hayles - piano, synthesizer Mel Gaynor - percussion Louise Waddle - handclaps Gavyn Wright - violin Paul Quinn - vocals Danny Cummings - percussion on "Flesh of My Flesh"
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